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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Hello, everybody, welcome back to Are You

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Speaker 1: a Charlotte? This is part two with Amanda hersh rewatching

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Speaker 1: are We Sluts? And she is the host of a

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Speaker 1: not Skinny Button effect. Welcome back, here we go.

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Speaker 2: So you filmed only your stuff, so all this other

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Speaker 2: stuff is being filmed. So at the time were you

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Speaker 2: reading their scenes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we would get the script. You know, you

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Speaker 1: get the first script when you're working, you're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of it. You get the script and it's the

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Speaker 1: first version. It may not be you know what ends

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Speaker 1: up being filmed, right, you'd get the script. We would

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Speaker 1: all like rush home to read it or read it

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Speaker 1: at lunch or whatever. We'd be so excited, right, like

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen? Then we would have a read

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Speaker 1: through with everybody because Michael Patrick's very, very old school,

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Speaker 1: so he wants to see what jokes work, where the

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Speaker 1: slow parts are. You know, it's very a performative type

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Speaker 1: of a readthrough, where like if your jokes don't hit,

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Speaker 1: they get cut, which I still am trying to explain

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Speaker 1: to the young actors who played my children and then

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Speaker 1: just like that, I'm like, you guys have to like perform, okay,

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Speaker 1: because I don't want your stuff to get cut.

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Speaker 2: Oh like you still did that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, but it grew, It grew

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Speaker 1: would do it in this writer's room upstairs at Silver Cup.

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Speaker 1: Do you know Silver Cup Studios are, Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like that old red factory. It's very vertical building.

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Speaker 1: It's not a normal sound stage, and upstairs is where

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Speaker 1: the writers were. So we'd go up there at lunch

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Speaker 1: time we'd be working. We would only have an hour.

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Speaker 1: We'd go up there. We'd be in this little writer's room.

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Speaker 1: No one from HBO would come. It was like very

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Speaker 1: low key, but it was just us, our writers, our

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Speaker 1: And then later on there might be the writers would

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Speaker 1: you know, or maybe just throw out whole storylines right

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Speaker 1: like they might. We might. We would time it so

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Speaker 1: if it was over, a storyline might get cut, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then they'd rewrite. So you'd get the next script

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Speaker 1: and then they might rewrite again before you film it,

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Speaker 1: so there'd be a little bit of time that you

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Speaker 1: remember this read through where this man is shouting you

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Speaker 1: know you can. I went to Cynthia right when I

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Speaker 1: got the script and I was like, I do not

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Speaker 1: you know, not fair for Charlotte to get to have

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Speaker 1: to be called these names. Like I was just very

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Speaker 1: And Nicole Halofsner was directing this episode. Do you know

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Speaker 1: who she is? No, she's very very cool indie film

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Speaker 1: Emily Mortimer. She had a film which I'm Jennifer Andison.

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Speaker 1: but you know we're filming, and they film his side first, right,

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Speaker 2: We have like a tiny set, like you have to

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Speaker 1: Never we never aren't there. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm there, Nicole is there? This dude is there. I've

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Speaker 2: It's word he wasn't at the table reader.

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Speaker 1: And also Michael Patrick usually reads the stage directions, which

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Speaker 1: is adorable. So the guys there and Nicole Nicole, her

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Speaker 1: I mean probably not that long, Like I'd say a

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Speaker 1: you know, like long enough, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Then we go to lunch. He asks me if his

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Speaker 1: make bigger faces. My god, Nicole, I mean every time

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Speaker 1: I see her a reminder of this. She doesn't remember,

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Speaker 2: Wait now I'm trying to think if your face. I

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Speaker 1: Like like I have no idea what she wanted?

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Speaker 2: Like you were like off put of course.

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Speaker 1: How big of a face can I make? Like in

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Speaker 1: I've never really had that happen to me in life,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I was thinking about it when I was watching.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, like people for sure have that right.

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Speaker 2: People like to be gaps, people like to be called names,

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Speaker 2: and everyone has their like bedroom preferences. But usually I

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Speaker 2: You have to like write you have to you have

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Speaker 2: But here was this special situation that I feel like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where he didn't know he was doing it and like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was sweet at the dinner. I hadn't

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: It took me a good good I think it was

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Speaker 1: they would be like, Okay, now you can get angry.

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Speaker 1: And I just be like, thank God, people, Jesus.

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Speaker 2: But does it make sense to you in retrospect, Like why?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if angry is the right word. It's

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Speaker 1: did no, no, no, And I get that Charlotte's not

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Speaker 1: Kristen didn't have, right, So that was a way to

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But I would be much more like what the liked?

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Speaker 2: It's not like you're because you're Kristin Davis. You're not

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Speaker 1: theater is is you know, you're you're out there alone.

431
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Speaker 1: You got to perform, You're not there's no coddling. It's

432
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Speaker 1: not possible to coddle you in theater right in a way.

433
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Speaker 1: But then I think when you get film jobs or

434
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: TV jobs, you're just like whoa what, you know, like

435
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: the excitement part is so much that you're you're just

436
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna I'm gonna save every moment. And then

437
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: after a while it does get to be like, wow,

438
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: my knees are shaking, I'm freezing. Uh, could we get

439
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: a space theater? But also I think that's back to

440
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: what we talked about a little bit too in the beginning,

441
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: is that you know, in the beginning of the show,

442
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 1: we didn't want we didn't want to take the fantasy away,

443
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: and so we like people say like, oh, it must

444
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: be so much fun the clothes and you know, you're

445
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: walking down the street and it was right, but also

446
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: like we're walking down the street at five am and

447
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: people are screaming at us from cars and we're freezing

448
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: and you can see our breath, but you're not supposed

449
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 1: to see our breath because it's supposed to be summer,

450
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: and so we're you know, like weird things, right, like

451
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: weird physical The physical reality of filming the show was

452
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: sometimes hard, but we always felt like we should, you know,

453
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: protect protect that that the viewers didn't necessarily need need

454
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: to know that. But now we kind of can't write

455
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: like the I think everyone knows so much more. But

456
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Speaker 1: I also feel I also feel like I want people

457
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: to just be able to escape into the show and

458
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: love it, you know, right, and not think about all

459
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: the things I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: I think mostly people don't like I feel like with

461
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: Sex and the City, people are more thinking, like character wise,

462
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: like is this cringe? Is this not cringe? Like you know,

463
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: it's just happening today, is it not. That's more of

464
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So luckily they don't they're not into

465
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: like that those small side.

466
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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and I think for me rewatching,

467
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: I definitely feel pulled in, you know, to the storyline

468
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: in a way that I don't even know if I was.

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly watched the show when we made it,

470
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: but it would be like a rough cut that I

471
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: would see on a VHS tape, you know, before it

472
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: aired on and I probably would not watch it on HBO,

473
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't think unless someone invited me over or something,

474
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a friend. But I didn't.

475
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't able to look at it objectively

476
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: at the time. You know.

477
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: Wow, So that's probably so nice for you now, like

478
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: so cathartic now.

479
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I don't know if it's cathartic necessarily.

480
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: It's more just like amazing. I feel very very you know,

481
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: just odd every time I see things that I didn't

482
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: see before, and all the details of the work and

483
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: the writing and the production and the clothes and the

484
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so I get to enjoy it like

485
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Speaker 1: a viewer, I guess.

486
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Speaker 2: You know.

487
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: What we didn't talk about is the overall theme, like

488
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: are we sluts? It's a good question, I think, I know.

489
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: And men who had a lot of sexual partners are

490
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: called romantic slash good kissers and rights and women are

491
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: called sluts.

492
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Right, that is not fair or good?

493
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: But is that still happening? That's a good question.

494
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: I feel like in the hookup culture of today, it

495
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: might not be, but I don't know if I know.

496
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: So here's what I would base my answer off of.

497
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: Is like a Love Island Okay, yeah, I've never seen it,

498
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: tell me. Okay, so that's a dating show where they're

499
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: all like in bikinis and on an island whatever. Right.

500
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: I feel like they talk about body count and this

501
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: is like you know, and they talk about body count.

502
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: They all say their numbers, and I don't think that

503
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: it's there's like bias there in the Love Island world,

504
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: which yeah, they talk freely like what's your body count?

505
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Like they have challenges like it's a whole thing. Wow,

506
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: and that's you know, but it's the new you know,

507
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: kind of generation of being super open, super out there

508
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: and like not giving a I wonder though, do people

509
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: ask Do people even ask? Like if you like, that's

510
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: something you ask like when you're in a relationship, I

511
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: think so too. I don't know, And then it's just

512
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: like of interest, like oh wait, like how many girls

513
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: you know? People do ask on first dates? I know

514
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: from friends, like people do want to know about past relationships,

515
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: but past sex, Like, right, what does that matter.

516
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it does. I don't think

517
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't I know what I mean. No one's asked

518
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: me in a long time, like how many guys, Like

519
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: why why would.

520
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: You ask that?

521
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Totally, yes, I think that would be uh a red

522
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: flag if someone asked that early on, you know.

523
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: There would be a red flag. But I kind of

524
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: love how in the show that question is posed because

525
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: at that time women would probably be called sluts.

526
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: For her, definitely, definitely, But you.

527
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: Girls were owning it, and even Charlotte, in her prudy way,

528
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: was getting down like she wasn't not having the sex,

529
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: even though she was like she wanted to call it

530
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: making love and whatever the hell, but like she was

531
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: still doing it.

532
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. You know at the end of the show,

533
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: the first show, we made a book called Kiss and Tell,

534
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: And on the last page of Kiss and Tell is

535
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: like a timeline with the guys. So each character has

536
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: all the guys they had sex with and guess who

537
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: had the most?

538
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: You did?

539
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Yes?

540
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Wait, this book was like what went between you guys?

541
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: It was like, no, it was a book in the

542
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: world that you could buy.

543
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: Really, it's a very cool book.

544
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's still in print or not,

545
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: we should find one. It's a great book. It's got

546
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: like it was in you know, obviously merch is like

547
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: a whole thing now right where you know, there's merch

548
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: to do with everything, but back in the day it

549
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: wasn't so much so. And we also were on HBO, right,

550
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: so we weren't trying to like put out T shirts

551
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you know. But this book was

552
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: really beautiful. Sarah was involved with it. It had like

553
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: pink Foux alligator and it said kiss and tell on it.

554
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: And it had a bunch of you know, kind of

555
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: beautiful pr stills, but also some behind the scenes stuff.

556
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: It had a section about a section for each character,

557
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: like chapter, and then I think there's a chapter on

558
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: costumes maybe, or you know, different things.

559
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: It was.

560
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: It was kind of innocent in a kind of adorable.

561
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Way, and they all had a most Yeah, crazy. I

562
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: was shocked, like more than Samantha.

563
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: I know, I was shocked. I don't know how it happened.

564
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened.

565
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: We have to go and count guys, we have to

566
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: find the book. We definitely we have to verify this information.

567
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: I know, I know the girls would be like, look

568
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: you have the mouth. Thank you for being with us.

569
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, thank you, thank you so much