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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.

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Speaker 2: Joe Jonas is here.

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Speaker 3: Today is the day, Friday, July nineteenth, the release of

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Speaker 3: work It Out.

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Speaker 2: It's out today.

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Speaker 1: What a song. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: It feels good to sing a song, to be back

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Speaker 2: here with you guys. What's good to have you here,

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Speaker 2: just like home.

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Speaker 3: It's good to have you here without those other two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad the other guys are not here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, screwed up. I heard you, so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to play work it Out in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it's no secret that at one point this

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Speaker 3: song could have been a song for all of you,

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Speaker 3: or a song for Dnce even and I heard that.

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Speaker 3: Nick actually thought, oh, this is our new song, and

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Speaker 3: You're like, what was that conversation in life?

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Speaker 1: So technically it was a different song. But the story

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Speaker 1: goes when we were working probably four or five months

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Speaker 1: ago for More Brothers Music. I started working with this

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Speaker 1: guy Alexander twenty three, producer musician Justin Tranner, who I

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Speaker 1: wrote Kick by the Ocean with, and another writer Bo

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Speaker 1: and we worked in a song called only Love, and

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Speaker 1: that song I just felt so close to and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't really find out. I couldn't figure out why. I

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Speaker 1: felt like it wasn't right for the brothers and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't right for DNC, and I kind of selfish. It

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Speaker 1: was like, I want to create something. I have a

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Speaker 1: lot to say. I don't feel comfortable with other people

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Speaker 1: being the voice of these songs. So I kind of

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Speaker 1: had to sit down. Nick was gonna go do a

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Speaker 1: movie with Paul Rudd, Kevin got another season claiming fame,

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Speaker 1: and then I was like, hey, and I also been

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Speaker 1: wanting to write some music. You guys cool with that,

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Speaker 1: and I want to take that song you really like

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Speaker 1: And Nick was like, well, damn, I really like that song.

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Speaker 1: But fine. So that started the kind of journey for

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Speaker 1: me to kind of create a new album. So there's

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Speaker 1: no vicious fight over a song. Oh there was a

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Speaker 1: vicious I mean it was a lot of blood. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason they're out here.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, we go through these different chapters

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Speaker 3: in our lives where we have the challenges, we have

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Speaker 3: the great things in the sad things, the scary things,

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Speaker 3: and at those times I wish we all had songwriting capabilities.

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Speaker 3: I wish we could all sit down and do an

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Speaker 3: album and obviously this album is a very personal thing.

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Speaker 3: It comes at an interesting time in your life. And

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Speaker 3: I'm just reading over some of the things you've said

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Speaker 3: in other interviews about how you wake up and to go, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if I don't start controlling my life now, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be like craziness forever. And so you came to

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Speaker 3: this point in your life where this album is sort

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Speaker 3: of reflecting that in your life.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, I mean, it's very therapeutic for me, and I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm so grateful that I have music

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Speaker 1: as such like a tool to be able to use

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Speaker 1: as an output. I mean, obviously I think therapy is

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Speaker 1: great and talking to somebody's great friends, family, but ultimately

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Speaker 1: as creators that we can put pen to paper and

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Speaker 1: feel like we can release it and sometimes share it

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Speaker 1: with the world, sometimes just keep it for yourself, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, great, I needed to do that for myself

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Speaker 1: and for athletes is going to run. For myself, I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy that I have music. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: last year doing our tour, seventy plus songs each night

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Speaker 1: or sixty I think sixty nine, so nice songs. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of times where I was I would

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Speaker 1: go through the setlist and I'm like, God, I really

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Speaker 1: don't want to play this one. But then you perform

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Speaker 1: it and see how it affects somebody in the audience,

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Speaker 1: and like, how lucky am I that I get to

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Speaker 1: do this for almost twenty some years. There you go

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Speaker 1: and I get to make people feel something, whether if

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Speaker 1: got them through that difficult time. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: create something that was like, look, if this helps somebody

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Speaker 1: else through what they're going through, great and work it out.

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Speaker 1: Is essentially that it's the idea of a conversation you

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Speaker 1: can have with yourself in the mirror where you're like, look,

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Speaker 1: going through. You got to shake it off yourself and

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Speaker 1: figure this out. And then it's kind of explaining it

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Speaker 1: to other people and saying, all right, I've gone through it,

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Speaker 1: maybe I can help you along the way, and like

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Speaker 1: a pop rock fun way that you don't really realize

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Speaker 4: When there are heavy lyrics, so like poppy music.

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of my favorite songs of all time

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Speaker 1: are are really heavy lyrics. With happy music, and until

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Speaker 1: you I sect them, you don't really understand that.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you write a song or an artist. An artist

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Speaker 3: will write a song and it really is I got

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Speaker 3: to get this out of my system, and it really

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Speaker 3: is just kind of lashing out of the whole world

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Speaker 3: about how I hate people.

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Speaker 2: I just I just need to.

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Speaker 3: And they performed these songs at their concerts, thinking I

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Speaker 3: just crapped all over our audience emotionally, just once again,

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Speaker 3: and I'm getting away with it and they're clap.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever written one? And you're like, yeah, this

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Speaker 5: gonna keep this one under my pillow from me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, that's funny you say that. There was

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Speaker 1: a song I was thinking about recently and I played

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Speaker 1: for some of the record labels that are in the hallway,

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Speaker 1: and this is years ago, and I was going through

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Speaker 1: something and I wrote this song just like I was like, ah,

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Speaker 1: I was really angry about a situation and I was like,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys think, And they're like, well, it's cool.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll want to have this released

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Speaker 1: in like or have to be thinking about this in

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Speaker 1: a year. And I was like, you know, you're right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't want to create an enemy out

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Speaker 1: of something that you know. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it was for me and that's what I have, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm happy I created it, but I don't

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Speaker 2: Maybe next album, huh right, next album.

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Speaker 3: Joe Jonas here has his music to you know, as

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Speaker 3: his therapy and in his cathartic moments.

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Speaker 2: What do we have? I've got nothing. You've got Gandhi

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Speaker 2: has our artwork.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's great.

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Speaker 2: What do you have?

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Speaker 5: I feel like when I'm pissed off, I put music

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Speaker 5: on it and just like dance to it.

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Speaker 2: But what do you Okay? So that's how you get

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Speaker 2: it out? I know you. This is why I'm fed up.

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Speaker 1: Man. I need something other than eating, you know, and

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Speaker 1: for a walk with your dogs alone. That alone probably

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Speaker 2: I like to read, horn drinking. It's all good.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise of therapy, little hooker hookers and blow it's okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm all good.

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Speaker 1: Now that's the name of your hit song.

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Speaker 2: I should show more gratitude for these things. Anyway. So

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Speaker 2: you've been out on the road and continue to be

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Speaker 2: on the road with your.

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Speaker 1: Brother pretty much are doing shows on the weekends, but

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Speaker 1: after what we just did, it feels like a walk

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Speaker 1: in the park. To be honest. We'd played the Calgary

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Speaker 1: Stampede last weekend and wild, well, didn't your debut work

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Speaker 1: it out at that show? I did, yeah, which is

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Speaker 1: funny because on paper you're like, this is gonna be sick.

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Speaker 1: You get to the stage and the stage is like

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Speaker 1: pretty barren, so you're like, all right, which I found

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Speaker 1: the perfect audience for a performance like this, and it was.

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Speaker 1: It's always a little nerve wrecking playing something new, you know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's that that moment where you're on

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Speaker 1: You're like, this is great, I really want to performance.

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Speaker 1: You get up there and they don't know this. They

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Speaker 1: happen to know a more lyrics and expected from just

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Speaker 1: like even TikTok. You know, you you sample some of

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Speaker 1: the song and there they learn it, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of crazy, but was a rodeo. It's a technically a stampede,

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Speaker 1: not a rodeo. I don't know the difference, but the difference.

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Speaker 1: So there's like one hundred thousand people that show up

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Speaker 1: a week long thing, a lot of different performers. We

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Speaker 1: had a lot of chicken wings and beer. It was great.

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Speaker 3: So the album Music for People who Believe in Love

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Speaker 3: is coming out when October nineteenth. Okay, right, And so

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Speaker 3: going back to something you said earlier about the song

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Speaker 3: that will never be released and your guys said, hey,

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of those.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay.

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Speaker 3: There's the whole point when someone writes an album and

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Speaker 3: you've moved on a really good point. This one came

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Speaker 1: Did come pretty fast. I mean, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: body of work. I was listening back to I played

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Speaker 1: it short a friend yesterday, the guy that we created

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Speaker 1: What a Man Got to Do, actually the Brothers. I

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting because I feel like the genre wise,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, that's perfect. This exactly what I want.

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Speaker 1: I feel like in the place of my life, I

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Speaker 1: I'll just go live in the desert. Maybe I'll just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I went on a road trip and

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Speaker 1: I was just finding myself listening to a lot of

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Speaker 1: on the body of work. And I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: important for I guess listeners of any artists, you go

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Speaker 1: like this is where they were at. They might be

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Speaker 1: now six months removed, two years removed from when they

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Speaker 1: release it, but you almost are able to put on

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Speaker 1: your thinking cap and put them into the hot seat

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Speaker 1: of like this is where I was emotionally personally, it

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Speaker 1: was confusing and I was trying to figure out who

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Speaker 1: I am and kind of getting to know myself again,

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Speaker 1: and here I am. So it's it's exciting. And also

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Speaker 1: I think probably my favorite thing, and this is more

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Speaker 1: features on this project than I think any any Brothers

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Speaker 1: or solo stuff we've done. I think there's about seven

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Speaker 1: or eight features on this album, which is wild. I

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Speaker 1: reached out to a lot of friends and just said, hey, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan and I would love to send you

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Speaker 1: a song if you're interested. So I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: people to see and hear who's on this.

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Speaker 2: Gonna hold that information back until the release of the album.

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Speaker 1: See, I just want to say, the biggest artists in

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Speaker 1: It's ready for release. It's a great question. We we

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Speaker 4: Is it therapy performing it a year down the road

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Is a song is called work it Out. It's out today.

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Speaker 3: few seconds. How was Greece?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, is my first time? That was amazing?

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Speaker 1: It is an incredible place. So much fish man. Now,

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Speaker 1: Would not be right, that would be right. And I

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Speaker 1: I loved it. It's so beautiful and so welcoming. We

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Speaker 3: I love like we were in Meekins several years ago.

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Speaker 2: It's nice, but you needed to get away. We need

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Speaker 3: And even if you can't go to Greece, you can

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Speaker 3: you find inspiration on a beach in grease eating fish

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Speaker 3: or is that your turn off? You don't want to

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Speaker 1: I agree with what you said. How it can be anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Was it called Canada Stampede? It's called Calgary Stampede.

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Speaker 3: So your backstage about to go out there announcing you

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it would be fun.

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Speaker 3: We got to play the song. Of course, give me

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Speaker 3: the album release date again, October nineteenth. That's music for

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Speaker 3: people who believe in love. But today July nineteenth, Friday,

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Speaker 1: Yes, we make it easy for me. I'm so badhood

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Speaker 1: See you said it.

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Speaker 2: Wait October eighteenth. Boy, thank god you're here.

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Speaker 2: But today, Friday, July nineteenth, we gave you the first cut.

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Speaker 1: Of course, work it out crazy.

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Speaker 2: Are you already writing your new album?

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty much done. No, yeah, we got like

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Speaker 1: just like, keep it going. I feel like at this place,

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Speaker 1: I heard the podcast. Are you talking about that. I'm like, oh, yeah, were.

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Speaker 2: You upset about what I said? He's like, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: It was great. So I think it's so different as

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Speaker 1: I'm working on stuff. Nick Heavin is two, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's nice to just keep the train moving. I mean,

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Speaker 1: don't think it's at this place in the music industry.

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Speaker 1: You just keep going. You don't have to like slow

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Speaker 1: down or take big breaks. So if you're inspired going

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Speaker 3: They say, don't start running because it'll catch up to you.

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Speaker 3: Keep going nice.

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Speaker 1: That's scary, but I like it.

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Speaker 2: It is frightening.

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Speaker 3: We'll leave on that note. We'll leave a let down

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Speaker 3: our note. Thanks Elvis, Joe Jonas, this is work it out.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming in, Joe.

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Speaker 2: You get someone's motive be griddled.

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Speaker 5: Mois