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Speaker 2: Get her fired and destroy her monks. Am I the

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Speaker 1: I've been married to my wife for about ten years

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Speaker 1: brother in law, sister in law, but I always felt

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Speaker 2: Sarah never really liked me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a professional trained chef with fifteen plus years of experience,

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Speaker 1: and I work at a high end Chinese restaurant. It's

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Speaker 1: and I've been explicitly told I'll be the next executive chef.

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Speaker 1: Sarah is also a professionally trained chef.

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Speaker 2: What is this family?

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Speaker 1: She constantly brags about it and no joke, compares herself

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Speaker 1: out loud to Ramsey and ver Dame.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm at my mother in law and father in law's

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Speaker 1: is all always criticizing everything I do, whether it's chopping braising, marinating, etc.

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Speaker 1: I'm impatient for my wife inside stepping those comments, saying

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Speaker 1: Things came to a head two weeks ago when my wife,

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Speaker 1: father in law, mother in law, and I were in

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Speaker 1: I pretty sternly told her to stop criticizing my cooking

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Speaker 1: with you? I stopped what I was doing, swore at her,

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Speaker 1: and left for home with my wife. Apparently this caused

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Speaker 1: a massive fight after we left, with my mother in law,

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Speaker 1: brother in law, other sister in law taking my side,

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Speaker 1: and father in law Sarah saying it was a joke

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Speaker 2: We love it.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take sides too, with my wife even

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Speaker 1: getting text from some of her cousins apologizing for Sarah's

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Speaker 2: So am I the A hole? There is an update?

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Speaker 1: Oh, but first I want you to be up under

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Speaker 1: keyboards and tell me is op the A hole? John?

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Speaker 2: Quickly? Now before we go into the update, is.

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Speaker 3: Op the absolutely not Opie laying down the law which

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Speaker 3: like shout out to you, Opie, and like high key Opie.

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Speaker 3: It's just been dealing with it, like all the small

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Speaker 3: isolated incident, It's not an isolated incident. And this is

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Speaker 3: your profession, like, hey, if someone well, actually I love

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Speaker 1: Me, but John, I'm a weird that's off. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: But like literally if to someone who's like clearly dedicated

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Speaker 2: So there's an update. Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: My wife has also informed me that now Sarah may

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Speaker 1: Apparently one of her coworker has heard her rant about

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Speaker 1: So it looks like one of my wife's cousins found

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Speaker 1: I just got a voicemail from my father in law

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Speaker 1: that my presence was only being tolerated up until this point,

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Speaker 2: Now and you're still.

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Speaker 1: Reading this, Doug, I'm very disappointed in you.

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Speaker 2: You're better than this.

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Speaker 1: WHOA talk about showing your true colors. I love how

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Speaker 1: After taking the verbal abuse from Sarah and reading some

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Speaker 1: voicemail I had on my phone, and apparently my mother

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's go okay.

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Speaker 1: Three Facebook posts has now devolved into a cluster frick

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Speaker 2: But there's a little bit more. Oh my god, what

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Speaker 1: So, this says, is titled father in law aka Doug.

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Speaker 1: Apparently my mother in law and father in law were

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Speaker 1: already having trouble in their marriage, and it was only

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Speaker 1: made worse with a certain twenty sixteen presidential election. She's

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Speaker 2: But there's a night more. God, So this is the

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Speaker 1: You may have been able to tell already, but the

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Speaker 1: for a few years now, and my cousin's Facebook post

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Speaker 1: was likely just the light that set off powder keg.

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Speaker 1: According to my mother in law, the fall has allegedly

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Speaker 1: then finally the fallout for Sarah and sister in law

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Speaker 1: tell me. According to my mother in law, Sarah came

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Speaker 2: She's a great chef.

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Speaker 1: I will admit this is true, but they took no

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Speaker 1: Found this hard to believe and didn't want to add

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Speaker 1: She's gonna be only working at McDonald's. This is a

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Speaker 1: this to happen. So I've reached out to some buds

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Speaker 1: It sure as hell doesn't feel like a happy ending.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps bittersweet justice, but that's all I can give you.

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Speaker 2: Wow my talk about a chain reaction nuclear nucular just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, just like you thought it was all already

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Speaker 2: You thought one nuke to set off the nuke factory.

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Speaker 2: So knowing what you know, is OP the A whole? H?

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Speaker 1: No? Absolutely, I did loves racism, absolutely, not the A hole.

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Speaker 1: She never apologized. I think if she made that one

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Speaker 3: Going back to the original joke, like there's like joking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is insulting this this it was a joke.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if anyone has had any familial fallout because

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Speaker 1: So we'd love to hear, like, what what are some

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Speaker 2: I'm closing the biggest deal of my life.

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Speaker 3: But someone's sweet juice might just ruin it all, and

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Speaker 3: I think I found who farted away my career. So

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Speaker 3: I work in upper middle management at a large business

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Speaker 3: and entertainment events company, and recently we got back to regular.

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Speaker 2: Face to face client meetings.

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Speaker 3: Over the last few weeks, we've been having some intense

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Speaker 3: which could really take our company to the next level.

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Speaker 1: It works out, oh big business moves. However, a rather

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Speaker 3: Nah, this was just such a strange problem. How on

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Speaker 2: The farting continued. In some meetings it was worse than others.

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Speaker 2: Assaulted everyone's noses.

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Speaker 3: It got to the point where people let their guard

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Speaker 2: Butted up here, I know, right, just say someone's.

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Speaker 1: Farting on The fan went, but the speed was set

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Speaker 2: Off the table and flew around the room, along with

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Speaker 3: Thankfully, this was laughed off, and I took advantage of

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Speaker 3: Seeing that he didn't return to the meeting room for

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Speaker 3: to get his hands on some reading material. This braizen,

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Speaker 3: place him in the number one position on the silent

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: I also especially noted that there were no more silent

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Speaker 2: Of the meeting, which went three more hours or so.

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Speaker 3: During our very last meeting, which was to seal the deal,

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Speaker 3: there was an awkward culture clash. We work in a

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Speaker 3: I'm not a local, but I'm fluent in the local language.

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Speaker 3: During the meeting, two maintenance men wearing overalls into the

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Speaker 1: Oh so they're literally going to redo the whole air

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Speaker 3: But both the workers were not fluent in English, so

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Speaker 3: I did some on the SPA interpretation, to which our

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Speaker 3: very important business to conclude today, I duly interpreted, But

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Speaker 3: the borderom Medicet bluntly replied in the local vernacular, there's

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Speaker 2: Like shin here, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Finally someone calls it out, which basically caused half of

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Speaker 1: Sure enough, the drinks float on both sides let their

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Speaker 1: but bring up the farting issue. The client replied, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that was our boss. We are so sorry about that.

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Speaker 3: He's a great guy, but since there in the office

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that, so it was them the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Very surprised by this revelation at the level of humor

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Speaker 1: days later, I ran into our senior executive's personal assistant,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she replied, I'm glad that my desk is outside.

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Speaker 3: He just sits and farts in his office room all

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Speaker 2: I ended up feeling like I was.

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Speaker 3: The one who had the problem all along, a keener

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Speaker 3: jokes in a little naive Seniority level and attitude to

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Speaker 3: public farting are not necessarily linked, I guess. The quick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean someone shouldn't be farting so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's too much.

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Speaker 1: Too much, too much, I mean, especially with clients, big clients.

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Speaker 2: Like that's super unprofessional.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I say charcoal underpants for the wind to

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Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? Give those idiots what they deserve.

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Speaker 2: You don't get a car. You don't get a car.

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Speaker 1: You don't get a car, ti Oprah. This is a

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Speaker 1: on an obscure little island near the UK. We have

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Speaker 1: The premise of the show is that you can win

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Speaker 1: prizes for doing challenges. Some of the challenges were physical,

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Speaker 1: I was okay there. As for the psychological part, you

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I thought of a believable lie before I entered the show.

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Speaker 1: We had to list five things we were afraid of,

441
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Speaker 1: and I've put down all things I'm not scared of.

442
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: I listed spiders, cockroaches, snakes, scorpions, and wood lice. I

443
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: literally couldn't care less about any of these creatures. I

444
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: grew up in a rural landscape and I've had to

445
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: pretty much deal with creepy Crawley's my entire life, so

446
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Speaker 1: it's not an issue. Op is a freaking badass. My

447
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 1: actual fear is a bit more obscure, and I really

448
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: honestly knew i'd fail if I was put in a

449
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: room with it my ex When I entered the room,

450
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: there were cockroaches everywhere. I was in my boxers and barefoot,

451
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: which was incredibly gross. I can't lie, and had to

452
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: sift through and move cockroaches to find clues for my

453
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Speaker 1: next challenge. I did it in the time period ascribed

454
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Speaker 1: to me and got through the next part. The rest

455
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: of the contestants failed. Now I want a pretty average car,

456
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Speaker 1: which I don't particularly want, so as soon as I

457
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Speaker 1: legally could, I sold it and made a nice little

458
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: profit since it was pretty much brand new, and then

459
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: I bought myself a rather nice car. I told my

460
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Speaker 1: family this recently on a drunken night when we were

461
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Speaker 1: all together, and although everybody found it up g rooriously funny,

462
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: my family are split into two camps. Some people think

463
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: I cheated and was ethically and morally wrong, and other

464
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 1: people think the other contestants deserve to lose if they

465
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Speaker 1: listed their actual fears. I'm obviously in the latter category

466
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Speaker 1: that generally wonder what other people think. So am I

467
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Speaker 1: the apple about lying about my fears on a game

468
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: show so I could win a brand new car. I

469
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Speaker 1: want to know what you guys think of the commage

470
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Speaker 1: right now? Tell us where do you lie that game show?

471
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Speaker 1: And have you ever been on a game show? And

472
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Speaker 1: you have you ever lied? But John, what do you think?

473
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: I like it?

474
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Speaker 3: Because because here's here's here's what I'm thinking about, right,

475
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Speaker 3: It's a game show, you know, it's it's this, it's entertainment,

476
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: you know at the end of the day. So it's

477
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Speaker 3: like if you can kind of like game the game shows,

478
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: then great. I actually know someone who really when he

479
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: was eighteen He basically like studied the formats of all

480
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: of the popular game shows and basically came up with

481
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Speaker 3: a formula to like win all of them, and he

482
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: just like Wheel of Fortune like all of them. He

483
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: just went in a circuit and just like won all

484
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Speaker 3: of them. He's written about it on LinkedIn and stuff.

485
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: He like started to hold the company and all that stuff. Yeah,

486
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: that's so sick.

487
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: It was a really interesting, interesting thing to do.

488
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Speaker 1: So, I mean, I guess you can game the system,

489
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Speaker 1: I say, OPI not the A hole?

490
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree.

491
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Speaker 1: If you can game the game shows, then you you know,

492
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, you know, if the casino is

493
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: rigged against you, rig against the casino.

494
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about, baby.

495
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Speaker 1: But I would love to know if anyone has ever

496
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Speaker 1: gained a game show or what is your go to

497
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: strategy for your favorite game. I like that a vegan

498
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Speaker 1: Karen As solved to be in a supermarket for buying meat.

499
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Speaker 1: So I said something unforgivable?

500
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Speaker 2: Am I the A hole?

501
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: On Sunday afternoon, I was shopping at the grocery store

502
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Speaker 1: around the corner from my house. I don't want to

503
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: say the name because I'm worried about this getting on

504
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: social media, and I'm almost positive I saw people filming

505
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: with their phones, so there might be video of this.

506
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: Someway also posting from a one time use account or

507
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: that reason. But it's a national chain that's focus is

508
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Speaker 1: affordable health food think whole foods with bigger variety and

509
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: weigh cheaper prices.

510
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 2: Hey, I want to shop here because of this.

511
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: I know a lot of vegans and vegetarians shop there,

512
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: but this place has a full butcher shop, fish place

513
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: in deli counter. It has vegan products, but is not vegan.

514
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: To put it succinctly, I was in the soup aisle

515
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: when I was checking out the bone broth when I

516
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: hear something from behind me. Thinking back, I think she

517
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: said something like you should eat me, it's murder, but

518
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't hear. So I turned around and said,

519
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Speaker 1: thank you.

520
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: What else are you going to say?

521
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: This is such a blur, so please don't quote me

522
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: on any of this. It's just the best of my recollection.

523
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: Her your body will thank you, as will all the

524
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: little animals. Me really confused, thank you, So I set

525
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Speaker 1: the box of broth I was looking at down and

526
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: found a store brand that was cheaper and put it

527
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Speaker 1: in my basket.

528
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Speaker 2: Her.

529
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Speaker 1: Wait, I thought, you weren't buying that me. Excuse me, her.

530
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Speaker 2: You agree leaders murder me?

531
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Speaker 1: Uh no, sorry, I eight meets and I love murdered.

532
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: This is where I started to think something was really

533
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Speaker 1: wrong with her.

534
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Speaker 2: Her.

535
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Speaker 4: You promise me, you promised me, No more animals have

536
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Speaker 4: to die, you promised.

537
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh god.

538
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: I just slowly turned away from her and went into

539
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: the next aisle. She turned the other way, so I

540
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: figured I was done with her. Never turned your back

541
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: to a Karen, you can never do that. Instead, she

542
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: looped around and met me coming the other way in

543
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Speaker 1: the aisle and kept screaming.

544
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Speaker 2: You promised, you promise. And at this point she.

545
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Speaker 1: Was in full tears, her face was red, and now

546
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: people sort of had boxed us in on both ends

547
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Speaker 1: watching the quote unquote show Wow. I was livid at

548
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: this point, so I said and this I can quote. Look,

549
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: you stupid bit, I don't promise anything. Leave me the

550
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Speaker 1: f alone. And with using that word, I turned the

551
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Speaker 1: crowd from being somewhat sympathetic in me dealing with a

552
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: crazy person to me being an extreme actual who was

553
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: calling her names.

554
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: This is a tricky flip flop situation here, tricky one.

555
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: The crowd is with you until they're against you.

556
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to know how to work that crowd

557
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: of comedy.

558
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: That's right.

559
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: She collapsed in a heap, and I tried to excuse

560
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: myself through the four to five people at the end

561
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: of the aisle. I was shaking because I don't enjoy confrontation,

562
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: and I just set my basket down and went to

563
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: the Safeway down the street. But was a bundle of

564
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: nerves the rest of the night, and I'm still dealing

565
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: with it. I have no idea what came of that woman.

566
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: The look of those people's faces is haunting me, and

567
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: I'm praying this doesn't end up on YouTube. Well, I mean,

568
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: I guess the story of it is the text, and

569
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: I feel awful for what I did. So am I

570
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: the a hole? I want to know, John, what you think?

571
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Speaker 1: I also want to know from the audience. Have you

572
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: ever had some crazy encounters with Karens or vegans for

573
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: that matter, or are you a vegan in yourself and

574
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: want to curse some non vegans out in the commons?

575
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: Please do so, Please fight, fight, fight.

576
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Speaker 2: John, What do you think is opda hole for what

577
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: they did.

578
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Speaker 3: The Karen is obviously an a hole. Your voice ridiculous.

579
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: Her intentions are known, I mean execution not great. I

580
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: guess I could give her a little bit of the

581
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: like the teen if she literally said like stop, leave

582
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 3: me alone. I didn't promise you anything, everyone would be

583
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: on her side and be like, oh.

584
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: Man like her. She kind of like degraded her her piety. Yeah,

585
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: we can to and you know the it's harder for

586
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: the people to connect with you on the high horse.

587
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: What do you think is op the a hole?

588
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: Put your answers in the comments below, and also let

589
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: us know if you have any crazy Karen Vegan stories.

590
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: My white daughter wants to be Milan, So now my

591
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: coworker thinks she's racist.

592
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: There's something she doesn't know. Let me explain.

593
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: My ear old daughter is autistic and her favorite Disney

594
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: princess is Mulan. Ever since she was little, she was

595
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: completely obsessed with her, and whenever we asked why she

596
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: was her favorite, besides the obvious that Mulan is a

597
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 3: badass hero, she would always say how her and Mulan

598
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: are just alike, and she likes how Mulan never knew

599
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: what she was doing either.

600
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like a diss or like.

601
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: This is in reference to the beginning of the film

602
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: before Mulan went off to war in Disguise, when Mulan

603
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: sings the first two songs, and the first bit she

604
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: seems a bit out of sync with everyone else, and

605
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: the second is reflection where she sings about the need

606
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: to fit in and how she doesn't think people will

607
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: like the real her.

608
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: Oh that makes it so much cuterter.

609
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: My daughter has always struggled with making friends and fitting

610
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: in with the other kids at school, so Mulan's journey

611
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: of eventually finding her path really sticks with her. That

612
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: being said, I can't understand how it can sound when

613
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: my daughter, who is not Chinese or of Asian descent,

614
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: says that Milan and her are quote just alike. But

615
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: because I know the context, I didn't see anything wrong

616
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: with her wording it like that. However, I took my

617
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: daughter on a play date with one of my coworkers

618
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 3: and her daughter and the subject of Disney Princesses came up.

619
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Speaker 3: My daughter, of course, used the opportunity to talk about

620
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: her love for Mulan and their similarities, and my coworker

621
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: gave me a funny look the stank gosh she's like.

622
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: After the two girls went off to play, my coworker

623
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: asked why I allow my daughter to say things like

624
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: that when it's obviously offensive. I explained the context behind

625
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: my daughter's words, and my coworker said that I shouldn't

626
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: let my daughter word it as such because others will

627
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: find it offensive.

628
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: That's basically saying you could only like a Disney princess

629
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: if it is of the same race of yours. Exactly,

630
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: which is that.

631
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Is racism?

632
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: I tried to explain about how policing my young autistic

633
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: daughter's words and insinuating that she was somehow being bad

634
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: by saying them could affect her. She already struggles to

635
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: communicate her feelings to us, so the fact that she

636
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: was even able to explain her feelings about her identity

637
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: to us with words is a major accomplishment for her.

638
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: For additional context, my coworker is also white, and I

639
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: say this not to mean that white people can't call

640
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: out other white people for being racist, but just to

641
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: establish that I wasn't trying to argue with someone about

642
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: their own valid feelings about their own culture and ethnicity.

643
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, here we stand, is liking Mulan not allowed?

644
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Is op the a hole for allowing her daughter like

645
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: to say that Milan is a lot like her? No, no, not,

646
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: he is not the a hole at all. Also, this

647
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: is like, like I feel like.

648
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 2: It's the circle back around.

649
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: There's a certain brand of white person that desires to

650
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: be woke, and I think intentions may be in a

651
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: great place, but the desire to be like woken on

652
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: the right side of trying to be super empathetic. And

653
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: I think again, I want to hopefully it's not just

654
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: like virtue signaling or whatever gatekeeping, but like from a

655
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: valid desire trying to like understand this, like trying to

656
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: like be empathetic is just saying dumb.

657
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: That is being racist.

658
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: There's a way to do cultural appreciation one thousand percent,

659
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: and that's great because then people actually learn and understand

660
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: about other cultures exactly.

661
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: So in conclusion, OPI is not the A hole. But

662
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I want to know what you what you think you know,

663
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: and also who's your favorite Disney prince.

664
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: Let's get that debate going.

665
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: I think my daughter's imaginary friend is a demon trying

666
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: to possess her.

667
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Should I get an exorcism? Hello?

668
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep, so I thought now it would be

669
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: a good time to post this. I have an eight

670
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: year old daughter. I will be calling Leanna for the

671
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: sake of my child's privacy. I am a single father

672
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: and it hasn't always been easy, but we have managed.

673
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: Before the start of Corona, we had moved into a

674
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: new house in northern Germany, which is close to my parents.

675
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Soon after we settled in, Leanna started to tell me

676
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: about her new friend, quote unquote, quickly telling me only

677
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: she could see him. I brushed it off, as she

678
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: has always been creative, and since we were under lockdown,

679
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was normal, you know, imagining friends, especially

680
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: since one of my friend's son had also had an

681
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: imaginary friend. Throughout the next few months, she would tell

682
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: me about him, how I would come to play with

683
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: her once I put her to bed, and he knew magic,

684
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: and how his favorite color was blue. I started to

685
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: get a little worried as she seemed to know a

686
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: lot about this friend. At first, I just thought it

687
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: was because she was missing her real friends and my

688
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: parent pearance, so I started to spend even more time

689
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: with her, even doing my work hours beforehand so I

690
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: could spend the rest of the day with her. When

691
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: a ghost accidentally gets you closer with your daughter. But

692
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: she kept talking about this friend. But everything changed. Two

693
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: nights back, I had woken up randomly around three AM.

694
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: I could just feel something wasn't right, so I got

695
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: up and went to go check on the Anna. She

696
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: was sleeping in her bed, though her blanket was a

697
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: little different than how I had left her. I figured

698
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: maybe she had just moved. But as I was leaving,

699
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: just in the corner of my eye, I saw a

700
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: figure in the window that looks out into the woods

701
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: outside of her home. I looked at it for a

702
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: good two minutes before it simply disappeared. I couldn't figure

703
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: out what it was. Some part of me was thinking

704
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: that it was my eyes playing tricks on me. The

705
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: next day, I asked her to draw a picture of him,

706
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: and it looked like this.

707
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: Let me see this. I don't like that.

708
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: Sh he looks like a spooky seventies rocker with long

709
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: finger hands.

710
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, slender Man.

711
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: This morning, after she woke up and ate breakfast, decided

712
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: to sit her down and ask her about her friend,

713
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: mostly asking simple questions. The main ones were what was

714
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: his name, has he ever asked you to do bad

715
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: things like hurt herself or me? And if she was

716
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: scared of him? She told me he said to call

717
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: him Wittig, which is a name I've genuinely never heard

718
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: of in my life. I did a little digging and

719
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: it is an extremely old German name spooky weird, which

720
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: makes a little sense since we were from northern Germany

721
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: and we currently live here as well. But she's never

722
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: been exposed to that name before, and I know no

723
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: one in my family named that.

724
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: She also said that.

725
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: He never told her to do anything bad or hurt

726
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: herself or me, and she's only ever been scared of

727
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: him once. Of course, I asked why, and she proceeded

728
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: to tell me the story of when he started to

729
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: come over to quote unquote play. She said, it's a

730
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: few hours after I put her to bed and she

731
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: was having a hard time falling asleep, but she noticed

732
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: something outside and had gotten up to investigate. Apparently, he

733
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: slowly started to move to the window until he was

734
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: right in front of it and just stared at her.

735
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate that.

736
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: In her words, he was very sad or upset, so,

737
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: of course, being the sweetheart child, he wrote a small

738
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: note and pressed it to the window, asking if he

739
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: was okay, and apparently he shook his head no. She

740
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: somehow managed to open the window a little bit and

741
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: then asked why. She was told it was because he

742
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: was very scared of the dark and had no one

743
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: to play with, so of course she offered to play

744
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: with him. He told her he would like that, but

745
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: before he could, she had to invite him inside, which

746
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: she did. This is when I started getting scared.

747
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: Just now.

748
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I dude, I'm freaking out, Come on, she said.

749
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: After she did, he smiled and pushed the window open

750
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: and crawled in an all fours, which made her very

751
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: scared and she started to cry, but apparently he comforted her,

752
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: and then he did a magic trick. I of course

753
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: asked her what the trick was, and she said he

754
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: made all the lights turn on in her room to

755
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: show her he wasn't scary.

756
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: That would freak me out. I'd be like bruh.

757
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: I started to ask her more and what other tricks

758
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 1: he had done, and they ranged from making flat hours

759
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: appear to taking both of them outside. Apparently, he also

760
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: likes to show her the stars and the moons, which

761
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: is why she added them in her drawing. All this

762
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: started after we moved into our current home. I asked

763
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: what they do together and she said they just play

764
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: with her toys, but sometimes he likes to play a

765
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: game called Hidden. When I asked her what that was,

766
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: she said it was a secret game. And then I

767
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: can't play it or it wouldn't be a secret anymore.

768
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: And there is an update. Do you want the update?

769
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: I do? I do.

770
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: I was informed that Whittig is in a demonic entity

771
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: that steals children.

772
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Oh, exactly what you want hanging out with your daughter.

773
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a demon ghost, whatever you want to call it,

774
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: known to steal children. Needless to say, it sent me

775
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: into a panic. I didn't leave her side until she

776
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: left today. She was supposed to leave on Monday for

777
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: my parents' house, but something came up and we had

778
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: to wait until today. I collapsed shortly after she left.

779
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I hadn't slept more than forty minutes every night. I'm

780
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: getting the house completely cleansed by a Catholic priest. Okay, like,

781
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: let's say this is like bro if my freakin' kid

782
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: is saying, like some whitig thing. I'm just like, oh,

783
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: she read some kind of book or whatever, and.

784
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: I would except for all of like all of the

785
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: things she's describing is kind of crazy. Like Also, I

786
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: feel like when you talk to a kid about imaginary friend,

787
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: it's like stuff that a kid would think.

788
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: An imaginary friend would do.

789
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this description is just like, I don't know,

790
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm not rocking with it all right.

791
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm meeting the house completely cleansed by Catholic priest.

792
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: He's coming over tomorrow and then the plan is to

793
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: have the place cleared out with Sage. And I'm doing

794
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: everything I've been told to do, even planning to get

795
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: rose Quartz gem to plays outside of her window. She

796
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: is very much aware that something is wrong at this point,

797
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: as I had her sleep in my room for the

798
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: last few days and could and she could tell I

799
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: was getting very paranoid. I told her that there were

800
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: just a few burglaries in our area and that was

801
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: why I was worried. I feel like that's a bad saying, Yeah, Oh,

802
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: don't worry, there's just a demon ghost, there's just real

803
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: pill people trying to break into our house and kill

804
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: us and take our just left and right. I also

805
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: plan to be getting a nanny camp for a room

806
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: just as extra security, just in case it doesn't leave.

807
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: After all of this. I'm just glad she is out

808
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: of the house until Thursday. I think it is very

809
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: pissed off with me, though. Starting a night ago, I

810
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: woke up to huge scratches on my arms and horrific

811
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: headaches which I've never had before, as well of having

812
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: strange issues while trying to translate this, having a bunch

813
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: of random ones scattered through my writing. At this point,

814
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: the pain doesn't really bother me. It's more the fear

815
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: of it trying to get to my daughter. I don't

816
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: know if I should tell her the creature's origins or

817
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: if I should wait until she is older to explain this.

818
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is going to be extremely busy day, as I

819
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: also plan to go to a crystal shop and just

820
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: ask what crystals would be best to protect her. Okayo,

821
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: sounds creepy, bro, I don't believe this shit. I don't

822
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: believe it, bro. I mean, all right, let's just say,

823
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: let's just say the daughter is telling the truth. Right,

824
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: right right, or what she believes is the truth. I

825
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't like, I wouldn't be like, oh god, I got

826
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: I got a Catholic priest, Like that's not the first

827
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: thing I'm thinking.

828
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

829
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: I also have never had any experiences with the paranormal,

830
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: so I don't believe that at all until I get

831
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: possessed by.

832
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 4: What?

833
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Until I get possessed by ghosts? So I'm not gonna

834
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: believe that that. I don't know.

835
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: But but I also haven't any parallel normal experiences. I

836
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: would love to know if any of you all have

837
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: had any paranormal experiences, Cuz I read something like this

838
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, freaking bullshit.

839
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: I mean, like I believe that.

840
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: I also studied engineering, so my engineering brain is like

841
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: kicking in. I'm like science. But let me know if

842
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: you've had any paranormal experiences. But that brings me to John,

843
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you have any?

844
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: No? I feel like, like, do you believe in ghosts?

845
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: So I think my view on like ghosts and stuff

846
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: is kind of like how people explain like aliens. It's

847
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: like in all the you know, billions and kadrillions of

848
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: like galaxies and stuff, there's not like any other form of.

849
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, telligence, it would be dumb not to believe

850
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: in ghosts. I think I'm not like a super believer,

851
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: but I'm more just like I feel like something there's

852
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: definitely probably some things out there that like, is something

853
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: in that realm that doesn't quite make sense that we

854
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: can't really understand. So I feel like I feel like

855
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: there's probably John believes in ghosts. I walked into my

856
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: wife having a five some. Now. She wants to vacation

857
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: with them without me. I said, no, am I the

858
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: a hole? She wants to vacation with her five some?

859
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: First, we both were raised in strict religious environments. She

860
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: came out to me while we were dating. That's not

861
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: the only thing she came at to, but I didn't

862
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: think much of it. I reject the things that I

863
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: was taught as a kid. Her family still doesn't know

864
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: that she is bisexually. That being said, she never really

865
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to explore her sexuality before we got married.

866
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: I'm a monogamous person. I have no interest in being

867
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: with other people. She wanted to explore her sexuality, and

868
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 3: I told her that I would be okay with it

869
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: as long as it was with a woman, and as

870
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: long as she was being safe, she never took that

871
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: step with anyone. And years went by with us living

872
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: a monogamous, hetero life.

873
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're just boinking each other. We moved into

874
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: a more liberal area and made a great group of friends,

875
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: and life was good. Life was good.

876
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Intel About eighteen months ago, we had a party at

877
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: our house. I walked in on her fingering one of

878
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: her female friends, let's call her cat, in our spare bedroom.

879
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: Our daughter was asleep down the hall. Oh yikes. I

880
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: was cutting it up with our friends in the living room,

881
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: and at some point I was like, where's my wife.

882
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: I checked the kitchen. Not there. I see a closed door.

883
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: I opened it and lo and behold is that hot? Opie.

884
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: That's only a question you can answer. You know, you

885
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: could tharn these loves in the And all I'm saying.

886
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: Is little Sam, Actually, I think he turned these lemons

887
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 3: into eye drops of w I felt a deep sense

888
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: of betrayal at that moment, and we've had lots of

889
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: conversations about that moment in the weeks and months that followed.

890
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: She was like, you said you were okay with me

891
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: exploring my sexuality. Bro, That's what I'm saying, Bro, No

892
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: take back, siaes, And.

893
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: You know I did say that.

894
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: She also said that I had said that she needed

895
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: to be safe and the behavior that they engaged in

896
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: had pretty much zero chance of transmitting any diseases.

897
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: And that is also true.

898
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: So I added some more stipulations to this, like not

899
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: with our friends, not in our home, and not in

900
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: a place where our kid could walk in. Fast forward

901
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: to a year ago when she comes home from a

902
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 3: trip to visit some of our friends from where.

903
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: We used to live.

904
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: Now, she tells me that she hooked up with this

905
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: girl let's call her Jess. We both knew while she

906
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: was still out there. I was quite upset about.

907
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: This, seems like she violated one of the rules. But

908
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: she was like, you two don't talk anymore, so you're

909
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: not friends. I told her that's not the point that

910
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: we know each other and that she should have talked.

911
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: To me first. I think that is totally affair. You know,

912
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: we were definitely in the gray area with an old friend.

913
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: Old. Yeah, I think he's now adding another clause to

914
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: this contrag. My wife wants to go on a trip

915
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: for her graduation and she invited both of these people

916
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: on the trip.

917
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: I think it's safe to assume that there's something's gonna

918
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: go on.

919
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: I've expressed how uncomfortable I am with this, and she

920
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to care. She thinks it's unreasonable for her

921
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: to end friendships with all of these people. She's been

922
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: super happy packing for the trip, planning where they're going

923
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: to go, what they're going to go into, and where

924
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna eat.

925
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think the question is not eat out right,

926
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah yeah.

927
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 3: And it's not a question of where they're going to eat,

928
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: it's who. Every time I see the suitcase, I get

929
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: a little sick to my stomach. No one in our

930
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: group knows what she did, but I have avoided hanging

931
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: out when Kat is around. What is the best way

932
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: to approach this situation?

933
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, there's an obvious answer.

934
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: What is it?

935
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: Sam? He got two pe of bread? You got to

936
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: be the meat in the middle.

937
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes a sandwich needs meat, otherwise it's just bread.

938
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: In all seriousness, I think she is kind of disrespecting

939
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: you and your desires for the relationship totally. And that's

940
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: a huge red flag that she's just not respecting you.

941
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: Just reading between the lines, it sounds like op does

942
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: have a problem with this, Like maybe op just needs

943
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, let's let's reevaluate, yeah, which you know,

944
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: obviously it sucks for the wife because again, like Opie said,

945
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: like she didn't have a chance to discover her sexuality.

946
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: So I guess the big question is to our beautiful audience,

947
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 3: what would you do if you were Opie?

948
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: The other thing I would love to know is for

949
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: those of you kinky.

950
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: Little little darlings, oh goodness, that have engaged in a

951
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: little threeesome foursome five some action, would love to know

952
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: your experience. And also for those of you who have

953
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: messed around within the friend group? Was it completely harmless

954
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: or was their harm created? Did it create some little

955
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: little tensions within the group? My niece wants to steal

956
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: my prize childhood possession. Now her mom wants to round

957
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: me too.

958
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: Won't let them? Am I the a hole?

959
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: So I'm upset and confused, And I told my sister

960
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: slash brother in law I would post here to settle

961
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: this argument so they.

962
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Will be seeing and reading this. Oh goodness, so got it.

963
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: We got some judges on the table For those who

964
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: don't know, Neo Pets is a virtual pet game site

965
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: that was really popular around the late nineties early two thousands.

966
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: It kind of died a bit for a while, but

967
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: has recently started to get popular again. Really, I didn't

968
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: know this still got a website still thriving. I've been

969
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: playing four years. My account is eighteen years old. Yo.

970
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Your account can vote, putting in the works, putting in

971
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: the hours.

972
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: And it has the stats to reflect that pets, avatars, stamps,

973
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: gallery trophies. If you don't play, might not mean a lot.

974
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: And not to brag, but I have a rather impressive

975
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: account due to the fact that I've been so long.

976
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Don't tell me to grow up. Neopets are life.

977
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: JFK. He said that. Look it up all right.

978
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I thirty four female, have no kids, not child free,

979
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: just don't have any. So it sounds like she wants kids,

980
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: but you know, webkids take priorities.

981
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

982
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: My sister thirty two female and brother in law thirty

983
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: four male have a daughter, eleven female, who has been

984
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: very sickly all her life. I'll not go into exactly

985
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: what is wrong with her, but she's been in and

986
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: out of hospitals a lot in her young life, and

987
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: recently had to go back in again for a few weeks.

988
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: I recently learned that she's been playing on neopets dot

989
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: com for a few months to help pass the time

990
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: when she's really not feeling well. She's gotten into it,

991
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: and from what my sister says, talks about it a lot.

992
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: He was excited to learn I also play, and we

993
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: talk about it. When I visited her, I looked up

994
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: her account and gifted her a bunch of stuff, expensive

995
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: stuff that would be hard for a newer account to get,

996
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: in game stuff using in game money, which can be

997
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: hard to earn in large amounts. Anyway, long story short,

998
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: she asked how I can afford the stuff I sent her.

999
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: It was worth millions of NP, which I guess is

1000
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: the currency in neopets. Yeah. See, let's see, ten US

1001
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: dollars would be able to purchase a thousand Neo coins.

1002
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: So one dollar is one hundred deo coins. So millions

1003
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: of Neo coins is like.

1004
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of dollars. Wow.

1005
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: And she also asked how I have all the stuff

1006
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: my account has. I explained that I had been playing

1007
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: for eighteen years. Did every plot, every event, et cetera. Well,

1008
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: apparently she got upset at the huge difference between our

1009
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: two accounts and asked for more stuff. When I told

1010
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: her no, she started crying to my sister and brother

1011
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: in law about it. My brother in law came over

1012
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: and asked if I could give my account to the

1013
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: niece for her upcoming birthday, which she has to spend

1014
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: in the hospital. Said it would mean the world to her.

1015
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: What do you think, op said?

1016
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: I said no, no, Neopets, you your little skag witched.

1017
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: Stay in the hospital. Play with those coming out of

1018
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: your No.

1019
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: I've had this account since before she was born, before

1020
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: we even met my brother in law. I don't want

1021
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: to get rid of it. I still play on it

1022
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: literally every day. Well, he got mad and tried to

1023
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: guilt trip me. I'm an adult. She's a child, and

1024
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: it would make her happy in a rough time in

1025
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: her life, happy to help her learn the tricks and

1026
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: trades of the game. But I'm not giving away my account.

1027
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: He tried to buy it off me, and I still

1028
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: said no. Now he is super pissed and got my

1029
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: sister and parents on their side, which I kind of understand.

1030
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: It would be very easy to be like, Yo, this

1031
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: is just a freaking computer.

1032
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't understand.

1033
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm being hounded every day for this and being called

1034
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: an apple because it's all my niece will talk about

1035
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: and she really wants it. I feel bad because she's

1036
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: just a little girl in the hospital, and guilty for

1037
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: not giving it. I offered to send a bunch of

1038
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: stuff to her account again, but she wants my stats

1039
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: or she's not treated like a newbie who doesn't know

1040
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: anything by other players too. I feel guilty for this,

1041
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: but I want to keep my account.

1042
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: No, am I the a hole? This is juicy. This

1043
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: is juicy.

1044
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: I want to know what everyone thinks of the comments

1045
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: right now? And also, is there like a virtual world

1046
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: that means something to you? I literally shed tears of

1047
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: a RuneScape, so yeah, I know how that feels like.

1048
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: But John is op the a hole for not giving

1049
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: this sickly young girl her neopets account.

1050
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: I think I would keep giving some gifts and explain

1051
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: to the parents, like and train. I would be like, hey,

1052
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: let's like sit down and like do it together, like fun,

1053
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 3: let's play together, even keeat you the tricks of the trade.

1054
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 3: You don't want to just like it's like the equivalent

1055
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: of like buying followers. You know, yeah, it's like, yeah,

1056
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: you might have all the stats, but it's really nothing.

1057
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: It's nothing. It's nothing like you need to earn. You

1058
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: need to earn your place in this world.

1059
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: Because of the dollar value and the sentimental value. Sit

1060
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: down to the parents, you literally say, this is worth

1061
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: twenty grand, this is worth thirty grand, this is the

1062
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: worse whatever it is. And I've put in all these years.

1063
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to, you know, keep giving. I'm going to

1064
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: keep surprising her with gift. I would love to play

1065
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: with her. It's like a bonding thing, like come over

1066
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: and play and like help her earn her account. But

1067
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't think I can purely on the monetary alone,

1068
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 3: like twenty to forty grand.

1069
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can.

1070
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Just like I also think though that kid hospitalized on

1071
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: her birthday doesn't understead the value of.

1072
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: A neocoin guys, I think Sam's the a hole in

1073
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 2: this story. There's no a holes outside of the story

1074
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: except for the narrator. I just told my sister that

1075
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: she deserved to be divorced because she did. Am I

1076
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: the a hole?

1077
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: I fifteen male Live with my parents in a cramped apartment.

1078
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: They try their best to keep what's afloat, and it's

1079
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: not a bad apartment, so I can't be mad about it. However,

1080
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: things got pretty bad when my thirty one female sister

1081
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: moved in after her divorce. We've never gotten along well

1082
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: because of the age gap, but ever since the divorce

1083
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: things are even worse.

1084
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's a big age gap.

1085
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: She goes out to parties all night and then comes

1086
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: back home and sleeps all She practically makes our mother

1087
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: do everything, including caring for her. My mom has to

1088
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: do all of my sister's laundry, all of her dishes,

1089
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: and drive her to and fro places. My mom is

1090
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: a very sweet, quiet, soft spoken person who gets frazzled

1091
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 1: very easily, and if she does something wrong, my sister

1092
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: will go off on her and make her cry.

1093
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, sister, sounds like an apple.

1094
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: When my dad comes home from work, my sister will

1095
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: come out of her hiding hole and demand that he

1096
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: do stuff like get her Starbucks or some new clothing

1097
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: accessory at the mall. She sounds like she's like.

1098
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: Thirteen, What is this? How she's thirty? Actually? Dumb?

1099
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Like that? Always gets done because my parents will do

1100
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: anything for us, which is fine up until it reaches

1101
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: that limit. The limit does exist for anyone who watches

1102
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: me and girls out there. My sister doesn't work, so

1103
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: she mooches money off everybody, including me.

1104
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: He's fifteen.

1105
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: I have tried to get my parents to stop it,

1106
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: but they say that there's little that they can do

1107
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: because she's an adult and they want her to be happy.

1108
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: They do give me money in return, but that's not

1109
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make. Wait, so Op gets

1110
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: money for complaining?

1111
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: Bro, What what kind of backwards asked parenting style is this?

1112
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 4: What is this?

1113
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: I've stopped bringing up because we're not in a good

1114
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: enough financial situation for that. When my sister moved in,

1115
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: my parents wanted her to have privacy, so they asked

1116
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: me to sleep on the couch. Okay, fine, I've started

1117
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch, But then my sister started complaining

1118
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: about the freaking decorations that were in there and made

1119
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: my parents and I move everything so she could make

1120
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: the room into her own. My sisters also started smoking

1121
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: in the apartment unit, even though that's against the rules

1122
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: and could get us kicked out. Pouring water on the

1123
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: cat like our freakin' sociopath and bullying me about the

1124
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: most innocuous I finally lost it yesterday night and yelled

1125
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: at my sister that she deserved to get a divorce

1126
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: and that I don't blame her husband for treading wood

1127
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: aga I having sex, although he should have done it

1128
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: long ago they'd been married for a year. My sister

1129
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: predictably pitched a fit, and my parents blame me, even

1130
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: though she's been the one terrorizing us for the past month.

1131
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: So am I the a hole? Because these freaks certainly

1132
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: think I am? So, John, I want to know what

1133
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: you think. Is OP the a hole for calling out

1134
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: the sister for being an absolute buffoon? Tippy tap on

1135
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: the keyboards right now and tell us what you think.

1136
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: But John, do you think OPC a hole? I'm wondering

1137
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: if that's like, when someone's like that much of a monster,

1138
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: do you kind of have to fight fire with fire

1139
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: to stop someone in their tracks?

1140
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: That is what I am debating right now.

1141
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: The sister just needs some dose of reality. Yeah, the

1142
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: parents aren't giving it to her. It's like, sometimes you

1143
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: need to get like, if you're this crazy, Yeah, you

1144
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: need to get slapped.

1145
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: He's been like kicked out of the out of his room,

1146
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: you know, like all this stuff taken out. She's she

1147
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: could get them evicted by smoking. I think I'm going

1148
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 2: out the A hole.

1149
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: I'd say not the A hole, just because of how

1150
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: egregious the sister is.

1151
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: I accidentally exposed my gig son because he kept breaking

1152
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: me on fire YouTube videos.

1153
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: Am I the A I feel like I'm pretty cool? Dad,

1154
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: that's what Laane dads say that is it's true.

1155
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: Just kidding. No, I'm not kidding.

1156
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I'm anything special, but I'm super easygoing,

1157
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: supportive and encouraging towards my teen boys. For the last

1158
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 3: few years, Josh, my youngest, now fourteen, has been playing

1159
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: pranks and jokes on me and editing the videos and

1160
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: my responses to show his friends. He's even put some

1161
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: on YouTube, but they've never really taken off to the

1162
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: extent that he had hoped.

1163
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, my said has no cloudy.

1164
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: Everything has been fairly harmless and I've never had an

1165
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: issue being the brunch of his pranks.

1166
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: I have though, been secretly plotting my rovenge and he's

1167
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: gonna start his own YouTube channel. I'm gonna be the

1168
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: mister Beast of dad pranks. About six months ago, I

1169
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: contacted a TV network in my home country who put

1170
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: me in touch with the producers of a popular prank

1171
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: show aimed at kids. So way yep, yeah, that's actually

1172
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: kind of fired.

1173
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: After much back and forth and a few telephone calls,

1174
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: the producers agreed that they would help me take revenge

1175
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: on Josh in an elaborate to be broadcast prank that

1176
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: would see him finally as the protagonist. My eldest boy,

1177
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: Blake fifteen, was in on the prank and was to

1178
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: play a part alongside some actors that the show was

1179
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: going to provide. Two days ago, one day before the

1180
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: intended prank, and whilst Josh was staying at a friend's house,

1181
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: the TV producers and crew came to my house to

1182
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: set up all of their equipment, hidden cameras, and props

1183
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: for what was to be a home haunting special for

1184
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: their Halloween broadcast. This episode will never be broadcast.

1185
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: Why I want to know. Both Josh and.

1186
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: His friend, who was also not in on the intended prank,

1187
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: come home none the wiser and spent the early part

1188
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: of the afternoon on the Xbox in his room.

1189
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: Now.

1190
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 3: As prank time approached, I made the excuse of having

1191
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: to go and pick up some takeaway, and it was

1192
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: during this time that the haunting was due to take place.

1193
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: I kind of see where this is going. If you

1194
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: see where this is going, say I see you right now.

1195
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: I see you, I see you. I drove my car

1196
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: to the next street.

1197
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: I pulled up and was invited into the makeshift producers

1198
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: gallery in a temporary building on a neighbor's property. Immediately,

1199
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: the crew sprang into action, rolling their cameras and coordinating

1200
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: their actors, my other son Blake, and their crew on

1201
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: the radios. I was paying attention to the presenter who

1202
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: was being filmed alongside me, observing the prank that was

1203
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: about to unfold, when all of a sudden, I heard

1204
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: the words.

1205
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: Terminate, terminate, terminate.

1206
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: What about cut that terminate is like stop? It was

1207
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: screamed from the seat beside me. I thought this was

1208
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: part of the show, and I giggled with the light

1209
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: as I took my attention off the presenter and I

1210
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: faced the camera monitors next to me watch the prank

1211
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: begin to see what's going to unfold?

1212
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: You know what's unfold? And you know it's a zippin'.

1213
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: To my absolute shock, the hidden cameras at the home

1214
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: we're showing my son and his friend engaged in the yikes.

1215
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: They kind of accidentally filled this illegal is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad,

1216
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: bad bad.

1217
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: I froze up for a moment and processed what was

1218
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: going on, and then ran back to the house, where

1219
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: I was forced to intervene and tell Josh everything that

1220
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: was happening. I have never seen my kid so absolutely

1221
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: horrified in his life. He went pale, vomited everywhere, and

1222
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: cried uncontrollably for two hours. His friend was equally distraught,

1223
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: and I've done my best to keep them as calm

1224
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: as possible while I tried to work out what to do.

1225
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: To say, this is a mess is just an insult.

1226
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: So you were a mess, say it was a mess,

1227
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: you would just say it's a prank.

1228
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: Bro got em.

1229
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm still not sure that I've done the right thing.

1230
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: I booked a hotel and took both my kids there

1231
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: and left the TV crew under my neighbor's supervision, to

1232
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: pack everything up. I dropped Josh's friend at his house.

1233
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 3: I have not yet discussed the matter with his parents. Oh,

1234
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: you have to tell them, Oh you have to weird

1235
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: though they are aware something went wrong during the filming

1236
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: of the show, but that everyone was okay. I am

1237
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: still at the hotel tonight with the boys, and I

1238
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: have not heard from the producers yet. Josh hasn't really

1239
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: spoken to me or opened up all that day, and

1240
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how to approach the subject other than

1241
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: with apologies and support. I am ninety percent sure that

1242
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: Blake has told his friends, even though he hasn't today.

1243
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: I fed up.

1244
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge f up. There is an update, so,

1245
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the question is like, what should

1246
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: Ope do? What should op you do?

1247
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: I would probably go to the other kid and be like, hey,

1248
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell your parents because I want

1249
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: to make sure that you're okay and safe and that

1250
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: you know, and maybe just game plan and really sit

1251
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: with him and talk about it.

1252
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: But man, I need this update right now. Okay. I

1253
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: heard this update just over two years ago.

1254
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: A well planned, elaborate prank on my son Josh went

1255
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: disastrously wrong.

1256
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: Wait, so we got an update two years later. This

1257
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: is two years in the field. Wow. Okay. The original

1258
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: post is here is not very safe for work.

1259
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, it was my son's sixteenth birthday,

1260
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: and as expected, he pranks me. Nothing is torturous as

1261
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: I did to him. However, I think it's safe to

1262
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: say that the prank.

1263
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: War is over.

1264
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: He uploads his pranks to TikTok, so I won't spoil it.

1265
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: Perhaps you'll see it there.

1266
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad it all.

1267
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: Got resolved, though it seems like the father son relationship

1268
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: is still going strong.

1269
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: It seems like it's still going strong.

1270
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: Hopefully the sun gets over the absolute mortification of that experience.

1271
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: I think what I want to know from all of

1272
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: y'all is what's the best prank that you've ever done,

1273
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: or what was the best prank that was played on you?

1274
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 3: Ooh, there's probably some really pranks in there. This isn't

1275
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: totally a prank, but it kind of works because I

1276
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: can attach something fun. When I was like fifteen years old,

1277
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: my friend and I recorded a YouTube video called Dancing

1278
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: in Ikea. We just literally went and filmed me dancing

1279
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: in a suit in Ikea in just random places. It

1280
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: doing like stupid stuff. The Ikea manager or like security

1281
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: whatever was like I will find it.

1282
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: You post sing it. I will find you, I will

1283
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: like track you down, and I will like murder your

1284
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: whole family. I mean literally like and I'm like fifteen,

1285
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: and I literally were like stupid, like completely innocuous, And

1286
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: this guy is just being like the biggest fle on

1287
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: planet Earth is trying to exert his executive ikea power.

1288
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: A hawk attacked me. Well, I was jogging, but I

1289
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: have a trick up my sleeve to destroy this god

1290
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: forsaken bird. Am I the a hole? It's called a gun.

1291
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: So I was running early in the morning, like I've

1292
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: done for years.

1293
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: I had on a day low yellow beanie and a headlamp,

1294
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: but the headlamp was turned off because I was on

1295
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: a well lit neighborhood street. As I was running on

1296
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: the sidewalk, I felt this big whack scrape on the

1297
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: side of my head and it took me a few

1298
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: moments to figure.

1299
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: Out it was a hawk. Oh my god, he swooped.

1300
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: I tried to grab my head, then flew back before

1301
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 3: landing on some nearby telephone wires. Needless to say, I

1302
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: screamed my head off and ran as fast as I could.

1303
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 3: I turned my headlamp up to the sky and turned

1304
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: it on, but still felt pretty freaked out. I'm not

1305
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: at all hurt. The beanie is pretty thick. I'm also

1306
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: totally aware of how ridiculous the story is.

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1308
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: Ope, But that being said, I can't help but be

1309
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: nervous about getting back out there.

1310
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Sounds like, op, you just got rejected by a girl

1311
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: or something, just like I don't know if I can

1312
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: go back on the dating scene, but you got to.

1313
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm afraid to wear my Daglo beanie, which has been

1314
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: keeping me warm on these cold runs. I can't understand

1315
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: why the hawk went for my head. Anyone have any ideas.

1316
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: Anyone have something like this happened to them, how to

1317
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: get over it. I'm going for a run right now,

1318
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: but I'm going to have my headlamp pointing up the

1319
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: entire time.

1320
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: Now, Sam, there is an.

1321
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: Update, I want the hawkday attack again. Sam woke up

1322
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: and shows a violence a gentleman. But I want to

1323
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: know what solutions you would suggest. Well, so, I mean, one,

1324
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: wear a helmet. Maybe in Australia a lot of people bike,

1325
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: and when I was living in Australia, when I was younger,

1326
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: on my skateboard helmet, I would put eyes in the

1327
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: back my helmet, so magpies wouldn't attack me, because magpies

1328
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: are like known for attacking people when they're like not looking,

1329
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: and so you have to make it like you're always

1330
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: looking and put eyes on the back of your head.

1331
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: So I would recommend op put eyes on the beanie

1332
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: maybe or wear a helmet and also put eyes on

1333
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: the helmet.

1334
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: Eyes are essential.

1335
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: An interesting prediction. Will we will get into it. So

1336
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 3: long story short. I live in an area known for

1337
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: aggressive slash territorial owls. I run early in the morning

1338
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: and during the winter, I've had to deal with owl

1339
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: swoopings and head grab I've been attacked a total of

1340
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: four times yo twice actual contact to very close swoops.

1341
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: I feel like owls, you know, are just saying like, hey,

1342
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: this is our turf. Get the fuck out.

1343
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: I was desperate to find a solution and reached out

1344
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: to the community and the bird subreddit. A few users

1345
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: actually suggested sowing eyes on the back of my call

1346
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: that I call that.

1347
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: I so called it.

1348
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: There you go, your boy, no fucking bird. Wait, yeah,

1349
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: I was attacked by a few birds in Australia.

1350
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? They didn't do it, though, I

1351
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: was jumped into the bird gang. That's right.

1352
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: God damn inded, Yeah, knighted indicted. I'm ready to fight it. Yeah, yeah,

1353
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: get some.

1354
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: I had purchased giant googly eyes, but honestly they were

1355
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: tough to addhre. I hot glued safety pins on the

1356
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: eyes and then attached them to the hat and a

1357
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: pain to take off when I wanted to wash the hat.

1358
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: Slash not run with googly eyes. I've included a pick

1359
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: for your laughs. This was the pick attached.

1360
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, those are giant googly eyes right, Oh,

1361
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: but kind of like sick hat?

1362
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: Oh it is? It is kind I think it's cool

1363
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: with the google eyes. It almost it looks like something

1364
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: someone in LA would wear. Like cool, It's like a

1365
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: street street street man.

1366
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: So I thought this was going to be my kind

1367
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: of annoying solution until my sister sent me this mask

1368
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: as a funny ha haa haa.

1369
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: You have a bizarre owl problem joke. So here is

1370
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: the second solution, yo, that goes hard, bro. I mean,

1371
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: she's not playing around with you.

1372
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you get afraid of the owls, become

1373
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: the at Batman.

1374
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: You've heard of Batman? Have you heard of owl man.

1375
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Man, Oh my god, Well, joke's on her, because this

1376
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: mask was exactly what I needed. With its easy elastic

1377
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: band and flimsy plastic front, the mask easily fits on

1378
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: the back of my head.

1379
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: You're joking, man's running with it owl mask. Nope.

1380
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: It's also easy to remove, so if I'm want a

1381
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: long run that seeps into the daylight, I can take

1382
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 3: it off instead of being that weirdo runner lady with

1383
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: a back mask on.

1384
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: And you know what, it works.

1385
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 3: I started wearing the mask in September slash October of

1386
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: last year, and I haven't been attacked by an owl since.

1387
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: I was actually just featured on my local blog about

1388
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: my solution. A big thank you to everyone for coming

1389
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: up with some great ideas like peeing on the owl

1390
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 3: to mark my territory and making sure I'm not a

1391
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: bit Disney princess and moving. A big f you to

1392
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: everyone who told me to watch the HBO show The

1393
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: Staircase because the scene with the owl was so triggering. Also,

1394
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: maybe that was a crazy owl, but in the four

1395
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: times that I've encountered one, they hit them fly away,

1396
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: so yeah, he definitely killed her owl. See myself out

1397
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: a good note, good note to end on.

1398
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

1399
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I mean that is ever real thing that happens,

1400
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: like like birds do attack you if you're if you're running,

1401
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, through their territory.

1402
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: I so it's funny, is I'd never heard of that.

1403
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: I had heard of my aunt and uncle's area in Florida.

1404
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: Hawks were taking very small dogs. H I'm talking about

1405
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: taking taking like they are gone.

1406
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that happens in Tapenga in La. Yeah.

1407
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful because there'll be birds that will

1408
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: take your dog away and coyotes too. Yeah, more coyotes,

1409
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: I guess than the hawks. But yeah, it's super small,

1410
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: like one of those little rat Schuawa dogs. I'm about

1411
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: to sue my university and to oblivion. They keep charging

1412
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: me more money, demanding I signed random things and stealing

1413
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: mysh am.

1414
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: I the a hole.

1415
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: I've been trying to deactivate from my sorority. When I joined,

1416
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: it claimed to be different from other sororities, and for

1417
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: a few months it was. Now it's completely different. The

1418
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: exec board is made up of awful people and they

1419
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: make casual racist jokes about minorities on campus and in general.

1420
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: They curse people out and they force us to choose

1421
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: between them or academics constantly.

1422
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: My God. For example, several of us.

1423
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Had a lab and we were told last minute that

1424
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: we had to attend in Arts and Crafts workshop. Professors

1425
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: don't allow you to miss lab unless you are on

1426
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: your deathbed, so we told them that we couldn't paint

1427
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: that night. We're all fined one hundred dollars. You don't

1428
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: come to arts and crafts, pay the price. There are

1429
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: times when we have questions about something like the dress

1430
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: attire for a certain events, and we were just told

1431
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: by the exec board to check the foot because those

1432
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: details will come later. I hate being part of this,

1433
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: so I wanted out. When I arranged to meet the president,

1434
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: I was told that I had to pay hundreds of

1435
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: dues to quit. I was told I would have to

1436
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: order shirts that are expensive with our letters on them,

1437
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be able to keep them. I would

1438
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: just have to order them. I would also have to

1439
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: order the pin of my colony that I wouldn't be

1440
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: able to keep either. Those pins started a hundred bucks.

1441
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: She said that I would also have to return everything

1442
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: that has the letters of the sorority on it.

1443
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: Although I paid hundreds of dollars for this.

1444
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: I even have to give back a pen that I

1445
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: was given when I got in, it ran out of

1446
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: ink and I probably threw it away. I also have

1447
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: to pay all of the dues for the rest of semester,

1448
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: even though I don't want to be in it anymore

1449
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: and won't be participating. I'm being fined left and right

1450
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: for missing events like a Disney movie night over, a

1451
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: eating that my professor told me that I couldn't miss

1452
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: with him. The board has told me that unless my

1453
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: balance with them is zero dollars and I do all

1454
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: of the above, I also won't get my transcript when

1455
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: I graduate, so I can't apply to grad schools.

1456
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: So, in addition to the money, they're just trying to

1457
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: screw over her future. I'm so lost.

1458
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: I could maybe understand if they used our dues to

1459
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: pay for some things we did, but they don't. Every

1460
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: outing we have to pay for. If we buy clothing

1461
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: with our letters, we have to pay for it. We

1462
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: don't have a house, and because the only thing that

1463
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: we do is watch movies like Tangled and Home alone

1464
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: and occasionally ice skate. Lots of people have been suspicious

1465
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: about the cost of dues. I'm sorry that this is

1466
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: so long. I just feel trapped and powerless right now.

1467
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: And there are some updates. But what do you think

1468
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: he should do? It started investigating, maybe even see what

1469
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: a lawyer situation would look like.

1470
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: You know, I would talk to the school. That's it.

1471
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: You go to the school and maybe the other girls,

1472
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: and you're like, am I the only like this? Crazy?

1473
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: Like we should all go together yeah, and be like

1474
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 3: yeah unionized, I mean literally, because they're trying to squeeze

1475
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: every penny of you.

1476
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: What seems very predatory.

1477
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: Super There is an update. So I sent an email

1478
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: to nationals about what was going on, and I have

1479
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: a phone meeting tomorrow with someone. I also sent an

1480
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: email to my president formally declaring that I did not

1481
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: want to be an active member of the sorority. I

1482
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: needed this email so that I can be used as

1483
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 1: evidence that I no longer wanted to be in I

1484
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: see the guy in charge of Greek life. This was

1485
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: Elizabeth's response to my email, Mila, like we asked before

1486
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: you need to come to an exec meeting to deactivate.

1487
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: That email that she sent yesterday was not about deactivation,

1488
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: and it was about me meeting with her about missing

1489
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: and events, and then when I asked for paperwork, it

1490
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: became a board meeting. I sent her this, Elizabeth, can

1491
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: you please provide text or emails that state that I

1492
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: had to go to a board meeting in order to deactivate.

1493
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: This was not part of the conversation that we originally

1494
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: had in terms of me deactivating, So I'm waiting on

1495
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: her response, as well as my phone meeting with the

1496
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: person from Nash. I go to an exec meeting, things

1497
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: will go bad. We closed off in a room where

1498
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: they'll force me to give up my property and maybe

1499
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: sign some books. Oh my god, So she could be

1500
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: pressured into like signing a contract.

1501
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: So cool? Well, what is this the Illuminati? There is

1502
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: an update? All right?

1503
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: So the ELC emailed me after my last update because

1504
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: I guess she knew I was getting serious. She's an

1505
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: alum who was supposed to guide my chapter. She told

1506
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: me that after today, being a few days ago, I

1507
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: would no longer have to pay dues since I sent

1508
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: that email saying that I would quit. However, she told

1509
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: me that I would have to give things with letters

1510
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: on it, as well as the items that I received

1511
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: for midday a received as though those items were a gift.

1512
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: We were charged for those items. Yeah, sixty dollars for

1513
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: a plain water bottle with our letters, a single flower,

1514
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: and a cheap drawstring bag. She sent an email an

1515
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: hour later telling me to confirm that I not only

1516
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: received your message but understood. I did not respond to

1517
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: that because I feared saying that I understood it would

1518
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: lead to some weird agreement leverage bridge that she could use.

1519
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: She then told me if I didn't meet with her

1520
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: by March third, the board would be there and sign

1521
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,440
Speaker 1: the necessary paperwork. I would be charged.

1522
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: Dues for that month.

1523
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: Wait, she just told me I no longer have to

1524
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: pay Okay, So I'm getting pissed, and I was going

1525
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: to ask her what kind of paperwork I had to sign. However,

1526
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: I had a phone call arranged with Nationals already, so

1527
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: when I spoke to Nationals, I was told that I

1528
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: can only terminate membership with permission of the chapter. That's crazy,

1529
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: what is this now? I was getting pissed. I called

1530
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: Omega Financials and this is where. If I were in

1531
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: a movie that warranted paranoia, I would assume that collusion

1532
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 1: of some sort was going on. Now Omega Financials is

1533
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be this huge company. But when I called,

1534
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: they asked what I was calling for, and I told

1535
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: them that I was trying to leave my sorority and

1536
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: needed to cancel my Omega FI accounts. The receptionist went, oh,

1537
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: you must be Mila. One second, hmm, that's strange. Out

1538
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: of the thousands of account you have. How would you

1539
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: recognize me by the situation alone? That really isn't that unique.

1540
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: A few seconds later, I was told, Hi, Mila, so

1541
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: we can't really terminate your account unless the chapter at

1542
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: insert school name authorizes us to do so. How the

1543
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: hell did she know my school name? I didn't even

1544
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: tell her what state I was in.

1545
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: What's your guests?

1546
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like the Omega platform is the

1547
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: ultimate like bad guy pulling all the strings and they're

1548
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: using the surrities as a front.

1549
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: Maybe I think the meeting that she got with the

1550
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: person at that was high up is fake and it's

1551
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: just one of the one of the higher ups in

1552
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: her own sorority. I was pissed that even after I

1553
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: explained everything to her, she said that my scammy chapter

1554
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: had to authorize or release. She told me to call

1555
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: when I get the permission of my chapter, and I

1556
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: told her that I'll have my lawyer call me next time.

1557
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: Her tone changed, but I was pissed, and I thought,

1558
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: if they were doing this to me, then who else

1559
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: was getting scammed? Truly, I have meetings with several different

1560
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: law firms on Monday who are surprisingly interested.

1561
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: In my case.

1562
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: And although paying them is going to be more than

1563
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: my dues in clothing, it's the principle they need to

1564
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, Isn't right. I'm not supposed to

1565
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: be this stress. I'm supposed to be celebrating my last

1566
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: semester of college by acceptance to Harvard Med.

1567
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: Hey give it up, and just being alive. This boy

1568
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: is ruining what is supposed to be a great time

1569
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 2: in my life.

1570
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 3: Wow, well, hey, congratso pie. That was a nice little

1571
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 3: surprise at the end there.

1572
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Harvard Med not bad, not bad, not do better though,

1573
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: just kidding, I don't know what's happening. Like Greek life

1574
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: is kind of sketchy sometimes. Yeah, Greek life is literally

1575
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: just like an insurance company. My parents trapped me in

1576
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: an arranged marriage, so I said something unforgivable to get

1577
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: out of me.

1578
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: But I may have just destroyed my sister's marriage too.

1579
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: Am I the a whole?

1580
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: I twenty one female and from India. My sister twenty

1581
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: six female, is engaged to get married to Krish twenty

1582
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 3: eight male. I don't know this family very well as

1583
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 3: it's an arranged marriage and I just returned from home

1584
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: two weeks ago from France.

1585
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there.

1586
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: Christian his family came over last week to visit my

1587
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: sister and see me. I don't know why, but that

1588
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 3: was their first time seeing me. To be honest, the

1589
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 3: family is super conservative and I feel like my sister could.

1590
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: Do much better.

1591
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I wish your parents thought better of you than

1592
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: to hairy you with this total ugly person.

1593
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: Once they left, I pulled my sister aside and I

1594
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: shared my concerns with her YO this guy's boof, and she.

1595
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: Agreed, but decided to go through with the marriage because

1596
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: my dad knew the family and parents and other relatives

1597
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: were annoying her to get married anyway. Two days ago,

1598
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: they came back again, but this time with their extended family.

1599
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: Christi's brother Sonjay twenty six mail.

1600
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh, another man who's going to the grave and dead, bro.

1601
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 3: But the brother Sonjay finds me attractive and now wants

1602
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 3: to get married to me.

1603
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: Bro, your brother is ugly. You think I want you?

1604
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: Feeling disgusted and angry, I immediately told them that fall.

1605
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: My parents were not happy with the proposal and tried

1606
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 3: arguing that I was still young and in school. Sanjay

1607
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 3: went on to say, I can continue studying in my country.

1608
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 3: I have two more years in France. Like heck, I'm

1609
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: leaving France. My parents said no, and they kept pushing it.

1610
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: So I told them all to leave because they're disgusting

1611
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: punts who can't take no for an answer. Wow, Op

1612
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 3: was laying into that fan, bringing in the football card.

1613
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: They were embarrassed and now don't feel comfortable letting Chrish

1614
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: get married to my sister. So Op is like, yo,

1615
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: get the off my back, you punts. Yep, and has

1616
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: completely just not only destroyed her marriage which he wanted

1617
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: to destroy, but also the marriage of the sister who

1618
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: wanted to go through with it.

1619
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: Yes day, nuclear baby, and my sister is happy. Well,

1620
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: oh no, he's like, Frank, I got out of this.

1621
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: I was almost gonna have to be betrothed to this

1622
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: guy forever. Hey God, you call everyone a punt.

1623
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: My parents are on my side, but they think I

1624
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: was a little disrespectful by calling them the names. My

1625
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: sister also broke down and told me that she needs

1626
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: time and is uncomfortable getting married. Now the family realized

1627
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: their mistake and apologized, but I think the engagement is

1628
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 3: probably broken. My extended family is the issue now. My

1629
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 3: grandparents and uncles and aunts are calling me the A

1630
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 3: whole because I a embarrassed Precia's family and I should

1631
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: have let the adults deal with it instead. Also, I'm

1632
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: known for being super blunt, and they're saying no one

1633
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 3: would marry me, and I should have accepted the marriage proposal.

1634
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: Am I the A whole? Okay? Okay, I have some thoughts.

1635
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: I want to know what everyone else thinks.

1636
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: I think it will be very easy to just say,

1637
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: of course, op is not the A whole, but I

1638
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: want to take a more nuanced approach to this.

1639
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 2: Let's cook.

1640
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: It was a little bit intense to call the whole

1641
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: family a punt. Yeah, that feels like probably a little

1642
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: bit a holy to me. Saying no like hey, no

1643
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: means no and then leaving. I think that's okay. Because

1644
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: she was she was pressured. But I think think like

1645
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: using expletives for a whole family just doesn't seem especially

1646
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: if it's super traditional family.

1647
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I would do that. In

1648
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: terms of the outcome.

1649
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: The sister got out of a marriage that she was

1650
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: pretty apathetic about and ope he didn't have to get

1651
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: married to this family, and it didn't seem like the

1652
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: family was going to be a good match to the

1653
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: meal with, so.

1654
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: Outcome is good.

1655
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: I think people might tear my head off about this

1656
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: and get super mad, but I'm gonna say a little

1657
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: bit the a hole I know come in the comments

1658
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: and flame me. But yeah, I like, even if someone

1659
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: was like insulting my genitals, I still don't think I

1660
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: would call them a punt.

1661
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: And I mean that's that's pretty far going, going for

1662
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 2: the going for the genitals, going for the sacal kidding me,

1663
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm burning with your baby all us. Let us know

1664
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 2: what you think.

1665
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: There you go. I would love for everyone in the

1666
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: comments to describe their dream partner, like what do they

1667
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: look like?

1668
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: It's very sweet? Exercise?

1669
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sweet exercise, you know, or maybe you're asexual,

1670
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: and then maybe talk about your dog or friend.

1671
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in the It's gonna get set us happy. Yeah,

1672
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

1673
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: My nephew's only friend is Dave the dog. But I'm

1674
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: gonna take that away?

1675
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: Am I the ahle? Why you gotta take away David dog?

1676
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: Put him down? Okay?

1677
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: So I found a dog, Dave, that had been abandoned

1678
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: at a dog park. I waited with him until it

1679
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: was dark, and then took him home with the intention

1680
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: of trying to find the owner or a rescue that

1681
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: would take him. He had no caller, and when I

1682
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: took him to my vet the next day, we couldn't

1683
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: find a microchip, and Bill Gates at it again. He

1684
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: was clearly someone's pet at some point. He's neutered, housebroken,

1685
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: and very friendly. Rehoming him never really panned out. No

1686
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: owner ever turned up despite searching and posting on lost

1687
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: pet pages, and I wasn't willing to take him to

1688
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: a kill shelter. My husband was annoyed at first, but

1689
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: it's been almost two years now. My other dog has

1690
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 1: bonded with him, I've fallen in love with him, and

1691
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: even my husband has grudgingly accepted him. As far as

1692
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, Dave's part of the family. Keep start to

1693
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: the story.

1694
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: It is cute.

1695
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: My brother in law and his family relocated to our

1696
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: city and moved in with us while they were closing

1697
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: on a house. My eight year old nephew has autism

1698
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: and it's caused him some struggles. His parents had talked

1699
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: about trying to find him a pet, but I guess

1700
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: they never found a good fit, at least until they

1701
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: met Dave. Oh. He really bonded with Dave to the

1702
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: point where he sneaks out of bed at night to

1703
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: sleep in Dave's dog bed with him.

1704
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I was doing cute.

1705
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Dave is all he talks about, and he gets upset

1706
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: whenever we leave the house and don't take the dogs

1707
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: with us. I guess my sister in law talked to

1708
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: my husband about keeping Dave when they move out, and

1709
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: my husband told her he'd have to talk with me.

1710
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: But I guess there was a strong insinuation that would

1711
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: be okay. I only found out about this proposal when

1712
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: my brother in law approached me and thanked me for

1713
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: letting them keep Dave before my husband ever even mentioned

1714
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: it to me.

1715
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: Excupid.

1716
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: My husband and I had a fight, and when the

1717
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: dust settle, it's the three of them against me. My

1718
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: husband feels that because Dave was living with us more

1719
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: by accident than design, we were really fostering him more

1720
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: than keeping him, and so it would be selfish to

1721
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: keep him when my nephew clearly loves him so much.

1722
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: He says, we can go to the shelter and get

1723
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: another companion for a dog. So that's like a win win.

1724
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: Dave gets a home and another dog gets out of

1725
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: the shelter for Christmas, and Dave would certainly be very

1726
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,879
Speaker 1: loved and spoiled with my in laws, and yet after two.

1727
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: Years he feels like my dog.

1728
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: The thought of giving him away after all this time hurts,

1729
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: and the idea that my in laws are using my

1730
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: nephew's autism as some kind of trump card to prove

1731
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: they're entitled to have him really rubs me the wrong way.

1732
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: And I don't see him as interchangeable, like I can

1733
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: just pop down to the shelter and score a perfect replacement.

1734
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: First of all, there's a couple updates. But what do

1735
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: you think of this so far? Oh, what would you do?

1736
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: Would you give the autistic kid his dream dog? Or

1737
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: would you rob that young autistic child of happiness? So

1738
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: I feel like the autistic thing shouldn't be like used

1739
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: as a trump part of the consideration. Yeah, I don't

1740
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: think it should be necessarily part of the consideration. I

1741
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: think they're using it as leverage.

1742
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so too.

1743
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: I would be reluctant for sure. I'd probably have to

1744
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: sit and think on it a little bit. And I

1745
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: also like think about the dog too. The dog's gotten

1746
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: used to this situation for the last two years. To

1747
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: uproot the dog again, yeah, yeah, feels like unfair to

1748
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: the dog.

1749
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: The ideal Yeah, not ideal at all.

1750
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: If his family feels that they want a dog and life,

1751
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: go get your own dog.

1752
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: Okay at it.

1753
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: So, my husband doesn't hate Dave. He still plays with him,

1754
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: pets him, gives him treats, et cetera, just like he

1755
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: does with our other dog. He just said a feeling

1756
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: that if we took him in we'd be stuck with him,

1757
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. I guess that's true. Yeah, we

1758
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: both tried to find a new home for him, but

1759
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: it became clear after a few months it wasn't going

1760
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: to happen.

1761
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: But we did try.

1762
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: I didn't strong arm or bully my husband in keeping him,

1763
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: and while we never formally sat down and said, okay,

1764
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: Dave is officially our dog from this day forward, a

1765
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 1: lot of things strongly implied that, from the time my

1766
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: husband came home from pet Smart with an engraved bone

1767
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: shaped ID tag for Caller Oh that matcher other dogs,

1768
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: to agreeing to get him microchip with our address and

1769
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: his annual vet visit last year. He jokes that Dave

1770
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: was an accident, that's funny, it's funny, and that he's

1771
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: useless because our other dog is purebred and got trained

1772
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: specifically for hunting, while Dave is just a mutt and

1773
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: sometimes plays fetch and sleeps on the couch. I think

1774
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: my in law's heard Day's backstory, picked up on the

1775
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: jokes and assume maybe we'd be willing to part with

1776
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: him since he tried to rehome him before. But I'm

1777
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: not going to divorce my husband because he's willing to

1778
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: part with Dave, because I'm almost certain his desire to

1779
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: give Dave to my nephew is coming from a place

1780
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: of wanting my nephew to have something that gives his

1781
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: childhood a sense of normalcy, rather than dump a dog

1782
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't want on someone else, and I think he

1783
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: really meant to talk to me about my sister in

1784
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: law's request. It's just that my brother in law was

1785
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: so excited at the possibility of keeping the dog that

1786
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: my brother in law beat him to it. And when

1787
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: we're updates, Dave reacts to my nephew the same way

1788
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: he reacts everyone. He wags his tail and loves to

1789
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: take treats. But they don't have a transformative connection that

1790
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: transcends all the time in space. It's not like we

1791
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: all encouraged my nephew to get attached to Dave because

1792
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: we thought it would be adorable or funny. It happened

1793
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: rather quickly and organically. So is opda hole by keeping

1794
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: the dog?

1795
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: What do you think? John? No? No?

1796
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 3: And also I so we grew up fostering dogs, and

1797
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 3: I would say through our childhood we.

1798
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: Probably fostered like over thirty dogs. WHOA, that's a lot

1799
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: of wow.

1800
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 3: I we would keep them like one at a time.

1801
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 3: One of them loved eating like my boxers, and like

1802
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 3: literally I would like pull my pism and my my

1803
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 3: little kid weenie would just put this fall and I'm like, no,

1804
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: exposing me.

1805
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: So I got pretty good at letting go of dogs

1806
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: like John is down to euthanize any dog you give him.

1807
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Nice John heard, I'm pretty good at putting down dogs.

1808
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: That's what I heard, right.

1809
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I you know, at the end of the day,

1810
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: I think, Op, this is Op's dog. Just try to

1811
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: see some other dog.

1812
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, just try. There's other pups in the in the ground.

1813
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: Dig up one of the dogs John euthanized. There's so

1814
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: many at least, I don't care if they'll be homeless.

1815
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm ready to kick my brother and his wife to

1816
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: the streets. I the a hole. My brother lost his

1817
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: job along with all of his savings several months ago,

1818
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 2: and soon after he asked me if it would be

1819
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: okay if he twenty eight mail and his wife, thirty male,

1820
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: stayed with me until they could afford a place on

1821
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: their own. Again.

1822
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 3: I hesitated at first, considering I only have a one

1823
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: bedroom apartment. That's not much space, that's a little tight,

1824
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: But according to them, they had no other options, so

1825
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 3: I invited them over, bought a blow up air mattress

1826
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: for the living room. For the first month, things were manageable,

1827
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 3: although admittedly cramped.

1828
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: Then my brother told me that sleeping on the.

1829
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 3: Mattress was giving him back pains, so he asked if

1830
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 3: he could buy a small double bed for the living room.

1831
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: For the living room permanently. It's temporary, I mean temporary

1832
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: is temporary. Let's put a time limit on this, Let's

1833
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: give a move out period.

1834
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 2: The living room is by far the biggest room I have,

1835
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: so I told him that would be fine as long

1836
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: as they were still room for my couch, the TV,

1837
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 2: and the bookshelves. The living room is also connected to

1838
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 2: my kitchen in an open plane style, so I reminded

1839
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: my brother to leave walking space around the bed. Well,

1840
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: now it's been two plus months and things have gotten

1841
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: a lot worse. Dude, yikes, this is not ideal.

1842
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: When they first moved in, I would still use the

1843
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 3: living room every day to unwind on the couch after work. Now,

1844
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 3: whenever I go in, there's a strange vibe, like I'm intruding.

1845
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: My brother and his wife are often sitting in the

1846
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 3: bed together. When I go in, I always knock and

1847
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: they stare at me pointedly until I leave.

1848
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: I want you to leave for certain reasons.

1849
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes when I sit down, they will directly ask me

1850
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 3: for some alone time and say that they would like

1851
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 3: to have the room themselves. This came to a head

1852
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: yesterday and my sister in law messaged me with a

1853
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: timetable that she'd made of when it would be a

1854
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 3: good time for me to use the living room.

1855
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 4: The tut I use his own living room about sam

1856
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,919
Speaker 4: oh get a spine.

1857
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: The timetable basically says that they will allow me into

1858
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the room for one hour each evening, plus around twenty

1859
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: minutes for meal times.

1860
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 2: I basically shut her down instantly.

1861
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: And told her there was no way that I would

1862
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: be following a timetable since in the end, it's my apartment.

1863
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: She sent me back a huge message with dozens of

1864
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 1: paragraphs about how my constant presence was ruining her marriage

1865
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: with my brother and they feel like they're no constant

1866
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: presence is ruining my apartment and they.

1867
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: Feel like they have no privacy.

1868
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 3: I tried to talk this over with my brother that night,

1869
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 3: but when I got home, neither my brother or sister

1870
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: in law were talking to me, so he's clearly just

1871
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 3: as pissed. Today, an Amazon parcel arrived for my brother

1872
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 3: with a lock for the living room door out of

1873
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 3: my apartment, which I told him there's absolutely no way

1874
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: I will allow him to install it. My brother says,

1875
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm creepy for wanting constant access to where they sleep,

1876
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 3: and he's insisting on installing the lock anyways, So am

1877
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: I the a hole for not giving my brother and

1878
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 3: his wife their privacy?

1879
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: Kick them out right now? I need an update. Please

1880
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: tell me there's an update. There's no update, there's no update,

1881
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: there's nothing. This is nothing. This is this is a

1882
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: story that needs an update.

1883
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: The fact that this guy is just letting his brother

1884
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: and this this this wife, this terrible, terrible brother and

1885
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: his wife doing nothing all day except taking up space.

1886
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Hope he needs some freaking kick them out.

1887
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: A good question is how long is too long a stay?

1888
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: What would be your your minimum in maximum for like,

1889
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: like you know a close friend or a family member,

1890
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 1: as someone ever overstayed their.

1891
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: Welcome at your place. Would love to hear stories around that.

1892
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: I told my pregnant.

1893
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: Daughter that she cannot have a baby. I want to

1894
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: stop her by any means necessary.

1895
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: Amy the a whole. How dare you think that just

1896
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 2: because I had you, that you can also have a baby.

1897
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah with the gall I fifty eight female and my

1898
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: husband Rob sixty one male, have two kids, Erica thirty

1899
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: five female and Mike, thirty male. Both kids are married,

1900
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: but Erica and her husband, Steve thirty eight male, live

1901
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: nearby to us and this issue concerns them. They work

1902
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,839
Speaker 1: full time and have two kids, five male and four females.

1903
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: Five years ago, my daughter asked my husband and me

1904
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: if we would be willing to become their full time

1905
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: childcare so she could continue to work and afford their

1906
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: comfortable life.

1907
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Full time, you say, last time I checked. A full

1908
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: time comes with a check.

1909
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 1: We agreed, but we didn't discuss much more than watching

1910
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: the baby and their expectations.

1911
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: We are not paid, and we didn't ask to be.

1912
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: My daughter and sister in law have plenty of money

1913
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: and are reasonable when it comes to cost, but my

1914
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: sister in law is very cheap. I was a teacher

1915
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 1: and retired two years before I could make my pension,

1916
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: so my husband continued to work and we made a

1917
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: few sacrifices like vacations and adding to our savings, but

1918
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: we were able to make it work so I could

1919
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: take my full pension at fifty five and my husband

1920
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: retired a year later. Nice sounds pretty good. Our arrangement

1921
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 1: worked and we enjoyed having the kids, except by year three,

1922
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we started to feel like they were taking

1923
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: advantage of our help. In twenty twenty, during the lockdown,

1924
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: they were both working from home and they expected us

1925
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: to keep the kids all day, and we wanted to

1926
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: split the time during the week since their preschool slash

1927
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: daycare was closed. We settled on two with them and

1928
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: three with us, and my sister in law complained about

1929
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: it pretty much every day. Okay, what do you want

1930
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: to spend time with your kids?

1931
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: Absolutely no, I am optimizing every second of my life

1932
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: to ensure that I never have to.

1933
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Better say I, isn't that why, like you send your

1934
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 2: kids off to boarding school?

1935
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: So ya? Things got a little better when the kids

1936
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: were in school. Fast forward to year four, twenty twenty one,

1937
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,480
Speaker 1: we have a bit of a blow up over kindergarten.

1938
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 1: My daughter did not want five male to start school

1939
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: in the unknown, but I insisted that he needed to

1940
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: go because I needed a break. I also asked for

1941
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: four female to spend more time at preschool slash daycare program.

1942
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: Sister in law complain about the cost, but I pushed anyway.

1943
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: They relented, and then this past spring. Sister in law

1944
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: pushed for us to take the kids for a week

1945
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 1: so they could go on vacation. We said they could

1946
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: take the kids, and he said they couldn't afford it.

1947
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 1: No one went on vacation.

1948
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: Dude.

1949
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: These parents sound like they just do not want to

1950
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 1: take care of their kids. Maybe that is too much background,

1951
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: but I feel like the context is important for what

1952
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I said. My daughter and I were casually having a

1953
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: conversation the other day and she mentioned she had an

1954
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 1: obgyn appointment and tests. I asked if everything was okay,

1955
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: and she said Steve and her were trying for baby

1956
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: number three.

1957
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: Yo, you can't take care of baby number one and two.

1958
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I asked her what her childcare plan was and she

1959
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: looked at me like I was crazy, It said us.

1960
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna keep doing with doing right, bro.

1961
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I said that it would have been nice if she

1962
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: told me this before trying for another baby. She said

1963
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: it was none of my business. I then told her

1964
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: that we were not a viable childcare option for a

1965
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: new baby and begged her to reconsider. If I'm taking

1966
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: care of your kids, it becomes my business. Poor female

1967
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: is going off to kindergarten. We feel like we were

1968
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: getting our days back to some extense, and I refuse

1969
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: to start all over again with an infant. Erica said

1970
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: we were making her choose between her dream of three

1971
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: kids and financial stability. I argued that she has two

1972
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: beautiful children and they are financially stable. They shouldn't ruin

1973
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: that with another baby. It might be the A hole

1974
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 1: because Erica feels like we should have told her sooner.

1975
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: I feel like I am not because I never agreed

1976
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: to a lifetime of raising their kids. And there is

1977
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: a pretty juicy update. But is Opie the a hole

1978
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: for not automatically raising this third child? I want to

1979
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: know what you guys think in the comments below, and

1980
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: also there's like context here or like a lot of

1981
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: families will have their grand parents in the home and

1982
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the grandparents are like somewhat expected to take care of

1983
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: the kids. I want to know what it was like

1984
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: in your household, Like where did your grandparents take care

1985
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: of you?

1986
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 2: Mostly?

1987
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: Was it your parents? But John, is Ope the a

1988
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: hole for saying I'm not going to raise your third child?

1989
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely not?

1990
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think that op is the a

1991
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 3: hole because like op is literally given three years not

1992
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,839
Speaker 3: complaining of full time. To me, I'm like, you've saved

1993
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 3: all of that money over all those years, right, you

1994
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 3: should now be able to start, you know, childcare and

1995
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 3: things like that.

1996
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of children, I think we're going to bring a

1997
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: child into the mix. Say hi to our child. Okay,

1998
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 2: So there was an update.

1999
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: My daughter came to pick up the kids this evening

2000
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: and asked her if we could talk. We were both

2001
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: much calmer this time and explain my point of view

2002
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: on another baby and feeling blindsided by her declaration of

2003
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: baby number three. She said she mentioned wanting three after

2004
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: she got married, but I don't recall the conversation or

2005
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: was productive, and she shared that she is the one

2006
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: pushing for another while her husband doesn't love the idea

2007
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: but isn't completely against it. She confessed that she has

2008
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: doubts she would still have him on board if he

2009
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: found out they would be paying for childcare this time around.

2010
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 1: Her husband grew up on the poor side and budgets

2011
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: for everything. He worries about losing his job. Why he

2012
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: complained about the kids being around during COVID and letting

2013
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: his kids down.

2014
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: I sympathize more with him now that she shared this

2015
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: side of their marriage with me.

2016
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: She admitted that I was probably right about another baby,

2017
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: and she's going to talk to Steve tonight about moving

2018
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: forward with this plan, but with the caveat that the

2019
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: baby would be in full time daycare with my husband

2020
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: and me helping in an emergency. We're also able to

2021
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: discuss our current situation. I expressed that I feel underappreciated

2022
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: given everything I have done for her and her family,

2023
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: and she shared that she is jealous that she can't

2024
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: be with him instead. I felt for her as a

2025
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: working mom myself, except I had my summers with my kids.

2026
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 1: She said she would talk to Steve about enrolling the

2027
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 1: kids in the before slash after care program comes September,

2028
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: and we would take them as we usually do, but

2029
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 1: we can also send them to the program when needed.

2030
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like things got somewhat resolved a

2031
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: option was presented. I think both sides like learned a

2032
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: little bit about I don't know where each side was

2033
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: coming from, but I would love to know from you

2034
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: guys again, like how does care for your kids work

2035
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: in your family? How involved your parents slash grandparents? It

2036
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: seems like a lot that the daughter's asking to like

2037
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: fully take care of these kids like every single day to.

2038
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 3: Me, because she had to ask the assumption for their

2039
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 3: culture wasn't that it was just automatically going to happen, right.

2040
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: My Mormon mom is disgusted because my son looks like

2041
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 3: a girl.

2042
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to destroy her. I the ahole Jesus looks

2043
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 2: like a girl with a beard, long hair.

2044
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 3: I thirty two female, was raised Mormon, but I'm not now,

2045
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 3: nor do I follow any other religion. My mom is

2046
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 3: still very much in the cult. As such, she has

2047
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 3: the typical Mormon mindset regarding gender roles and all that bs. Granted,

2048
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 3: I still think she'd be this way without her religion,

2049
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 3: though maybe not as bad.

2050
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 2: Old people be intolerant, so with me and my mom we.

2051
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 3: Get along splendidly, except when the topic of religion comes up,

2052
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 3: which doesn't happen often. So my mom is visiting right now.

2053
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 3: I don't see her in person much, but she came

2054
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 3: down for my birthday. It's also important to note that

2055
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 3: I have two sons. My five year old has a

2056
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 3: mohawk and my three year old has a shaggy shoulder

2057
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 3: length haircut. Ew that's disgusting, gross. I can't imagine someone's

2058
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 3: hair touching their shoulders. He's never had a haircut for

2059
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 3: a multitude of reasons. Ever, these three years old. I

2060
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 3: didn't have my first haircut till I was like two

2061
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 3: and a half, none of which would even be asked

2062
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 3: if you were a girl. Not long after my mom

2063
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 3: got here, she started going in on my son's hair.

2064
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 3: This is not the first time she's given her opinion

2065
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 3: on it. Why don't I cut it? Don't I want

2066
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 3: to prevent him from getting bullied or from people thinking

2067
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 3: he's a girl.

2068
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, God forbid someone misgenders your baby because he

2069
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 2: hasn't asked. I want it to be his choice.

2070
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 3: Because because he acts like I'm murdering him when I

2071
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 3: brush his teeth and his hair, because he also flails

2072
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 3: around like he's having an exorcism. So imagine that with

2073
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 3: a pair of scissors.

2074
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: Sounds like you don't know how to control your kid.

2075
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 3: Ooh, lay it down, Sam, Because if someone sees long

2076
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 3: hair and assumes girl, that's on them and as simple

2077
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 3: he's a boy, brexit. But mostly it's because I don't

2078
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 3: freaking want to do it. She got pissed and said

2079
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: what she really thought, which was.

2080
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, I just don't like long hair on boys.

2081
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Okay, well, luckily you're not going to date this baby,

2082
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: so yet, she has no problem with my other son's mohawk.

2083
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 3: Guess that's boyish enough for her. And my mom said

2084
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 3: this in front of both of my sons, which pissed

2085
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 3: me off. I said the first thing that came to

2086
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 3: my head, which was, if you have a problem with

2087
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 3: long hair on boys, I suggest you take it up

2088
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 3: with your Lord and Savior Jesus crashed.

2089
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: There we go, they get on.

2090
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 3: You can start by asking him to get it haircut.

2091
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 3: Paul John the barber bruh. If looks could kill, I'd

2092
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 3: be in outer darkness right now. She's steeped in her

2093
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 3: anger for a while, but didn't say anything else. She

2094
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 3: hasn't changed her opinion, nor will she. But I don't

2095
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: think she wants to get roasted again either, so she

2096
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 3: won't bring it up anymore. I feel like we're both

2097
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 3: a holes. As much as I hate her religion, that

2098
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 3: was a low blow, and I have a tendency to

2099
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 3: speak first and regret later. Though I don't necessarily regret

2100
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 3: my words, I do regret how they made her feel.

2101
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 2: She is my mom.

2102
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: After all, there's a quick update. Oh my Heavenly Father,

2103
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 3: I didn't expect this all. Thanks for all the war

2104
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 3: war wards and honest responses. I'm glad I can make

2105
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 3: many of you laugh. I'm here all night, seriously, though,

2106
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: I'm working until seven am and going to waste it

2107
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 3: all on reading comments. Thank you all in the Celestial Kingdom.

2108
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 3: Huh So, I mean the question is is she the

2109
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 3: a hole for the comment? For the comment yo, Jesus

2110
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 3: had long hair.

2111
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2112
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 1: I don't think she's an a hole for just pointing

2113
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: out Yo, your main dude had the same long air. Yeah,

2114
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: what's what's the deal?

2115
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2116
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 3: I could see people getting offended by it for shore,

2117
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 3: but it's I think it's at the end of the day,

2118
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 3: just like stop, Why does it matter? It doesn't matter

2119
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 3: except he looks too beautiful. These serving looks serving too

2120
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: many looks. My husband keeps crashing and ruining my job interviews.

2121
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 3: I locked him out, but then chaos ensued.

2122
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I female thirty three, am employed, but God knows I

2123
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: have been looking for jobs. I'm a sales rep for

2124
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: over five months, and right now I am recovering from

2125
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: my knee surgery. My husband has a high paying job. First,

2126
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: he suggested I leave my career as a sales rep

2127
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 1: behind not up to his wealthy family standards. They'd mocked

2128
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: me a lot for it, and he says I should

2129
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: stay at home, but I refuse because I love my

2130
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 1: job and want to grow in it. Sales is like

2131
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: literally tied to money. What Yeah, I don't understand. You

2132
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: can make as much money as you want in a

2133
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 1: sales job. Come on. He suggested he finds me a

2134
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,520
Speaker 1: better job since he has connections.

2135
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 2: But that's not my field.

2136
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: I've had several job interviews and my husband has ruined

2137
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: all of them for me. And here's how he'd walk

2138
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: into the room whenever I'm having a potential job interview

2139
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 1: and introduce himself and then take over the conversation with

2140
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: the interviewer. He'd tell them about how good I am,

2141
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:13,440
Speaker 1: but slip some bad stuff in that eventually would cost.

2142
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Me the job. What kind of he says?

2143
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I know how to help you, bro,

2144
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: You're not even doing a good job sabotaging. His argument

2145
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: was that he's just making recommendations since he has connections

2146
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 1: and quote unquote influence. But I told him to stop

2147
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: and let me handle it. He's still saying he's just

2148
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: trying to guide me and whatnot. Oh my god, what

2149
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: a tool. Several days ago, I'd gotten a job interview,

2150
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: and after getting inside the room and before the interview started,

2151
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: I locked the door.

2152
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 2: My husband tried to come in yet again.

2153
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, get the hint, bro, literally and then

2154
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 1: he started knocking on the door, asking why I was

2155
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: locking the door and telling me to let him in.

2156
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 1: I put my headphones on and use noise canceling, but

2157
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: he kept knocking, telling me to open the door. After

2158
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the interview was over, I unlocked the door and walked out.

2159
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: He went off on me, calling me disrespectful and awful

2160
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: to lock him out like that.

2161
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: She's in a interview, bro.

2162
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,560
Speaker 1: I said, I was sorry, OPI, you don't need to apologize.

2163
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to work for this company so badly and

2164
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: I couldn't let him ruin it for me. He got

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Speaker 1: offended and said that I was being petty and childish

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Speaker 1: and also ungrateful because of the stunt. I pulled and

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Speaker 1: said that he was trying to help me get the

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Speaker 1: best deal out there. I said, I'm not a child,

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Speaker 1: but he said that yes, I was, especially with how

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Speaker 1: I behave for excluding him from the interview.

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Speaker 2: Bruh Okay, I want to know what all of you think.

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Speaker 2: Put your answers in the comments below.

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Speaker 1: Is op being the a hole by locking her husband

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Speaker 1: out of the room that she's interviewing in, John, What

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do not think OPI is the a hole

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Speaker 2: that at all. For Boo is one thousand percent.

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Speaker 1: But let us know what you think. Put your answers

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Speaker 1: in the comments. We love hearing from you, guys.

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Speaker 2: We love you. Subscribe comment, we might just read it

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you on the next one.