WEBVTT - and Too $hort

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my loves It is Lala Kent with Randal and

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys have forgotten, this is the Give Them

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<v Speaker 1>La La with Randall podcast. We've taken a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and we are glad to be back. I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that the thing is, you know we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to come back last week, and we didn't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think we were ready. We just didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I didn't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't start. I couldn't like sit in this room

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<v Speaker 1>with a microphone in front of me and just fucking

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<v Speaker 1>speak when I knew that there were things going on

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<v Speaker 1>outside of this room that I could be a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you went. You went to a lot of protests.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a couple, but you were at a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them. I mean, uh, And I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it would have just been irresponsible of us to come

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<v Speaker 2>back in here when we were still processing, when we

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<v Speaker 2>were still having conversations. I definitely was having a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you were. We've been doing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of listening and a lot of reflection, and we think

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing for us to do is to continue listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>So having said that we are back, today, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am very excited about our guests because our guest is

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<v Speaker 2>the amazing, insightful, incredibly talented and friend of ours. I

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<v Speaker 2>always say that long I would say everybody is a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking friend of ours.

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<v Speaker 1>But Too Short, Too Short, Too Short, someone who I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a fan of since I was a young kid

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<v Speaker 1>living in Utah turning up to his music.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've been asking have you been you been actually

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<v Speaker 2>actually since I introduced you to Too Short? What about

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, a year ago or something. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>were asked when we get our podcast going, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to get him on the air, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I'll come on. So it's just really cool

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, he has become a friend. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I think Too Short is like in

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<v Speaker 2>my age demographic, and I think, you know, with what

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<v Speaker 2>is happening right now in the Black Lives Matter movement,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think he's going to have a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>share with us and for a lot for us to

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<v Speaker 2>learn from. And you know one thing I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>Lala say it is that I talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've done nothing but listen since I just

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<v Speaker 1>introduced the reintroduced.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast, Lala, I'm still talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Okay, keep going. So what I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we wrap it up, keep going, say what you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm going to say is that today I really

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<v Speaker 2>want to do a lot of listening. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important, even in my age, even at forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>years old, I think that this movement of Black Lives

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<v Speaker 2>Matter is it's just time for everybody to listen, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter how you're raised or how diverse you are. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I consider myself really, and I mean this very diverse,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, and a lot of the work

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<v Speaker 2>that I've produced represents that, But that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>that's I think.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always room for more education. I've throughout these past

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, you know, I've gone to protests, I've

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<v Speaker 1>purchased a lot of books. I've listened to my black

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<v Speaker 1>friends and how they feel about this, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like what we have been doing is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not enough to just have the conversation once. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not enough to just go to a protest, like we

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<v Speaker 1>have to do better. Period.

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<v Speaker 2>We are seeing a lot of people being held accountable now,

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<v Speaker 2>which I am so proud to see. I think It's

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<v Speaker 2>the first time for me that I've seen an uprising

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<v Speaker 2>in such a unified way. I mean, it moves me

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm watching these protests here in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've been amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just I mean seeing people from ten years

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<v Speaker 2>old with their parents up to you know, ninety something

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Tim, Did you see that There's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that couldn't make it to a protest and I think

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<v Speaker 2>they went to his house and they they brought him

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<v Speaker 2>to the streets to because he wanted to be part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I mean, to see amazing. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>just shows you that, you know, I have no excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody has an excuse to not participate time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, if Jennifer Lopez is getting her ass out there

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<v Speaker 1>and protesting, you have no excuse, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>The cool thing is it's not just happening in the

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<v Speaker 3>big cities. That's that's kind of what amazes me. There's

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<v Speaker 3>like towns of you know, a couple thousand people, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>holding protests like on their main street, just holding signs,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're still out there showing their support and I

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<v Speaker 3>think are showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. But even in even in the Valley of

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, which we call the Valley shertman Oaks. I

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<v Speaker 2>was driving with my daughter and we came to the

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<v Speaker 2>Sepulvida Ventura corner and there's like ten people on that corner,

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<v Speaker 2>even though the larger protests were happening in downtown all that.

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<v Speaker 2>And my daughter said, oh, Daddy, that's the Black Lives

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<v Speaker 2>Matters protests, Like she knew. I've had the conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>she's watched TV and we've talked about it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean for her to just recognize, and she said, roll

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<v Speaker 2>down the window. And I rolled down the window and

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying honk, and she's, dad, honk, let them know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just It's just one of those moments

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<v Speaker 2>that you're just so proud to be part of something

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<v Speaker 2>that has so overdue, and I'm just so glad so

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<v Speaker 2>many millions of people are being involved and not letting

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<v Speaker 2>this just be a weekend thing or a weekday conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is every single day. I'm getting a message from

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<v Speaker 1>one of my friends saying, this is the meeting spot tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We're protesting it this time, and it's like it just

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<v Speaker 1>gives me chills. I feel like I've supported this movement

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<v Speaker 1>since it started. Even before it started. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>black community so so much. And to see every single

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we down or Hollywood had twenty thousand protesters

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, and to think that this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a part of history, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I have children or my grandbabies, I'm going to remember

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<v Speaker 1>this time, be like we did something. We did something, yep, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, now I'm ready to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put a smile on people's faces. But also you don't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how should you not put a smile on someone's

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<v Speaker 1>face when you tell him that too Short is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the podcast? And so today, like I

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<v Speaker 1>really just want to hone in on like where he started,

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<v Speaker 1>how he got his name too Short? Like where did

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<v Speaker 1>that come from? I want to know it all he's

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<v Speaker 1>worked with, I mean, he worked with the mac dre

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<v Speaker 1>king of Like, let's get Hyphi, come on, everybody, let's

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<v Speaker 1>all get down. You know, the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 2>Myself very educated in hip hop, I do not know

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<v Speaker 2>who Mactra is.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's bad. I'm gonna have to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like this, put a look on your face

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<v Speaker 1>like he's Miles some piece, you know, the Thiszle dance.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gotta break it down, break it down, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I saw you know he he has had

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<v Speaker 1>a very amazing career and worked with artists that I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up listening to, and I just want to pick

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<v Speaker 1>his brain. I want him to mention it all. So

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<v Speaker 1>please try to not talk a lot, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear Too Short through my headphones the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't see the look on his face. He's eyeballing

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<v Speaker 1>me hard. Look at him. He's like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I can do this. He can't even respond special

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<v Speaker 1>baby for the first time ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I just go home now?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, no? I love I love you next to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it all right you guys. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have Too Short. I'm gonna have to show

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<v Speaker 1>my baby some love. I think I might have hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean this time or all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of making up to do. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be right back. Hey, babes, we are back and

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<v Speaker 1>we have my boy Too Short. What's up Short? How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing life?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good, I'm good. Good to see you guys. What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>We're glad you're here, Grateful that you're here. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Last time I saw you were in the club turning up.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, how crazy is it in life? Short that that

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<v Speaker 2>we went from having a club party to being locked

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<v Speaker 2>down for three months so far, the first time we've

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<v Speaker 2>had a guest here post COVID, you know, even though

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<v Speaker 2>COVID still exists, but first time so that we're excited

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<v Speaker 2>to have you here live with us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So the world has changed. Twenty twenty is is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be memorable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to go down in history. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to start for people that don't know as much

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<v Speaker 2>as we know. Obviously, you're one of the biggest recording

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<v Speaker 2>artists in the world, one of the greatest tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>I always like to start, like from the beginning, So

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<v Speaker 2>how does it happen? How do you get into music?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you get into music? And what was the

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<v Speaker 2>evolution to get you kind of to your spot when

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<v Speaker 2>you had your first song released and started the blow up.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it starts in elementary school as a music student

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<v Speaker 5>and just always wanted to We always had like instruments

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<v Speaker 5>around our house, even though neither one of my parents

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<v Speaker 5>were musicians, but we just had like it would be

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<v Speaker 5>a guitar there and some drums and some boungos and

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<v Speaker 5>some just stuff to like, I don't know, tambourine, just

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<v Speaker 5>laying around out fun and I would beat on those

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<v Speaker 5>drums and I was, I was in my mind, I

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<v Speaker 5>was a drummer.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>So the first chance I got, I enrolled in music

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<v Speaker 5>classes and I started learning how to play drums. I

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<v Speaker 5>ended up being in the marching band for a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years. And when I got to high school, tenth grade, Oakland, California,

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<v Speaker 5>I was in the band. And that's when I first

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<v Speaker 5>probably like you know, eighth, ninth grade, I was. I

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<v Speaker 5>cut school a couple of times. Tenth grade is when

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<v Speaker 5>I bravely ventured out and I said, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>take some time off and I might go to school

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<v Speaker 5>for a couple of classes, and I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>I was jumping the fence and in your guard and

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<v Speaker 5>running the streets and just wanted to run with the

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<v Speaker 5>bad kids for a while now. And I remember this

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<v Speaker 5>very distinctively. The band teacher came over to me and

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<v Speaker 5>he had already you know, praised my skills, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was, I was talented, and he said that his

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<v Speaker 5>class was a privilege and that if I was gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be cutting school that after a certain amount of days,

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<v Speaker 5>you get dropped from a class. He said, if you

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<v Speaker 5>get dropped from my class, you can never take my

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<v Speaker 5>class again. I'm the only band teacher in the school.

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<v Speaker 5>You can never do it again. Wow, And I got dropped,

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<v Speaker 5>will I will admit it. I tried to play cool

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<v Speaker 5>because when you know, high school is like the band

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<v Speaker 5>is kind of funny, you know, like you could be

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<v Speaker 5>a cool guy in the band, but it takes a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, I gotta tell you one thing. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was a theater kid, so I understand, like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>cool like you. I was like what they call I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they called me like a theater gig. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, I totally understand. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I tried to fit in the normal.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm already in with the crowd. But then you're cool,

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<v Speaker 5>You're what they find out. I love band, You're out,

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<v Speaker 5>You're right, like it'd be the butt of a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of jokes. So the band guy told me I can

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<v Speaker 5>I can never play play in the band again. And

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<v Speaker 5>I remember eleventh grade twelfth grade, just always seeing him

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<v Speaker 5>going like really like in my inside, like really like

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<v Speaker 5>going ship. I wanted to be in the band.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cute.

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<v Speaker 5>But rap music came along and right at the same

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<v Speaker 5>right around the same time, that love for music was

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<v Speaker 5>replaced with me trying to trying to be like the

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<v Speaker 5>hip hop record.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Wait, so so hip hop didn't into play

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<v Speaker 1>until you were about starting junior. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I first heard rap music in ninth grade.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait what year? What year was?

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<v Speaker 5>Nineteen seventy nine was ninth grade?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you hear for the first time?

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<v Speaker 5>Rappers Delight was the first really rap song that I

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<v Speaker 5>heard that was on the radio. There were other songs.

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<v Speaker 4>Before that, but rappers Delight was the one that was

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<v Speaker 4>the banger.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, you know, rotation on the radio. Just

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<v Speaker 5>wherever you went you heard rappers Delight. So I just

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<v Speaker 5>knew I could do it. In nineteen eighty, I went

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<v Speaker 5>to tenth grade and I just tried it. One day.

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<v Speaker 5>I just tried to put I put this instrumental record on,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, twelve inch records used to have yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>yea yeah on the flip side. I put the record

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<v Speaker 5>on and I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, And I just rapped, and I just you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, from that point on, I would make little homemade raps.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think that was that filled in that void

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<v Speaker 5>of not being in the band, because I still get

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<v Speaker 5>that satisfation.

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<v Speaker 2>So you start, you start doing your own like basically raps,

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<v Speaker 2>your own records, and then you graduate. I mean, do

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<v Speaker 2>you graduate high school?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't graduate by choice?

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<v Speaker 2>Explain that. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>I had a dream, Like I knew things were you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was making money, I was doing stuff. Yeah, and okay,

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<v Speaker 5>the high school graduation thing is has a lot to

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<v Speaker 5>do with me growing up in private school. So I

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<v Speaker 5>went to Catholic school most of my years and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>pretty smart. Yeah, And I get to high school and

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<v Speaker 5>I go to public school, and they're guys, this is

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's kind of like what we were talking

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<v Speaker 5>about before we got on the air, about just all

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<v Speaker 5>the ills of the world, and one of them is

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<v Speaker 5>the public school system in the inner cities. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>really something that I couldn't grasp at first. So I

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<v Speaker 5>get to tenth grade and I'm fourteen fifteen, and there

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<v Speaker 5>are guys fourteen fifteen who can't read. Wow, but they

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<v Speaker 5>go to school every day and they have special classes

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<v Speaker 5>to help, you know, they call them remedio classes. And

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<v Speaker 5>you can go to English math and you don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to learn shit. You go to math class and they

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<v Speaker 5>give you a calculator and all your work is plus

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<v Speaker 5>minus and subtraction division.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you get a wow.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I got to twelfth grade, I was doing

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<v Speaker 5>my fair share of fucking up.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that I was doing my fair share the

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<v Speaker 6>fucking up escalator basically from I was keeping a chart

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<v Speaker 6>of how to graduate the right credits, and you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>you're working.

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<v Speaker 5>I was on my fair share of fucking up. I

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't fucking all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but you knew enough of how to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of high school.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was. I was maintaining a D average on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty pretty easy. I was a D student

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<v Speaker 2>without with trying. So so that shows you a stupid eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Om but okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>So I got the twelfth grade and everybody's getting all

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<v Speaker 5>excited about being seniors and the events you get to

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<v Speaker 5>be participating in and not just I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 5>school spirit by twelfth grade. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>give a fuck if we win the next game. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care about what's going on after school, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I just didn't care anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a dream, but at this point, your

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<v Speaker 2>dream is to be a rapper position or a pimp

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<v Speaker 2>or a pim. So it's one of the threat musician.

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<v Speaker 5>They were all. They were all very lucid, very bright,

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<v Speaker 5>and very lucrative.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just I was so affected by my friends

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<v Speaker 5>who we would you know, the newspapers a big deal

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<v Speaker 5>and you like something would happened. He was like, let

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<v Speaker 5>me read it, and I let a lot of buddies

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<v Speaker 5>who couldn't read. And my one buddy, I remember him

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<v Speaker 5>staying to me, he was kind of like like rubbing

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<v Speaker 5>it in and I didn't have the right credits to

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<v Speaker 5>and he was gonna he was like, yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 5>ain't even gonna be a graduation. And I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't even say the word. You keep saying gratulation

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<v Speaker 5>and you can't even read it. You can't even read,

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<v Speaker 5>and it wasn't it's funny, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not funny.

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<v Speaker 5>And if the guys walked, they got their cap and gown,

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<v Speaker 5>they got their diplomas.

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<v Speaker 2>But they can't read. But they can't read a book.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I don't even want that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>That ship.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like two credits short of a diploma and

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<v Speaker 5>want that ship even like it counts is like, go,

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<v Speaker 5>do you get your ged? Fuck all this right, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>about to get money, dude, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what happens? So? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>So, I mean I had a plan. It never once

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<v Speaker 5>in my mind, like your parents put that fear in you,

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<v Speaker 5>and it never once affected me.

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<v Speaker 2>You weren't ever worried you.

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<v Speaker 5>This was not going to work. I'm like, this shit

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<v Speaker 5>sounds good. This didn't. I just knew it. Like you,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of us in life say this when you

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<v Speaker 5>ask us, when you look back and go, well, what

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<v Speaker 5>was the part where there was no curve? I just knew.

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<v Speaker 1>You just knew, and you knew that you would do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it took to get to that place.

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<v Speaker 5>Because everywhere I went, every time I got on the

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<v Speaker 5>mic at a party, they loved it. Every time Wow

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<v Speaker 5>all may tape, they loved it. I'm like, everybody loves

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<v Speaker 5>this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the first moment now between eighteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one that it happens for you? I had a professional

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<v Speaker 2>on a financial level. When does it happen?

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<v Speaker 5>And how I got an opening slot on a big

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<v Speaker 5>show that came through Oakland and it was probably like

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere in the neighborhood, about seven thousands, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Crowd, Wow, that's a big crowd that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Never had a song on the radio. I never had

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<v Speaker 5>a record deal. I never had a record I never

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<v Speaker 5>had anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have to like audition for this spot or

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<v Speaker 1>had someone heard you?

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<v Speaker 5>Promoter? The guy who his name was Lionel B. And

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<v Speaker 5>he worked for Bill Grand Bill Graham was a big

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<v Speaker 5>promoter and Lionel B did the urban stuff for Bill

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<v Speaker 5>Graham Bayry Productions, and h he put me on the spot.

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<v Speaker 5>He knew about me in the streets. He knew. And

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<v Speaker 5>I got up there with no radio, no nothing, no contract,

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<v Speaker 5>no nothing, and I started rapping these songs that I

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<v Speaker 5>would sell in the streets. And the entire crowd knew

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<v Speaker 5>all the words shut up and it shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew the word oh oh, so you were big

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<v Speaker 2>under ground kind of.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody was in shocked. They're like, I got off stage

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<v Speaker 5>and people were going, who the fuck are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have any idea that you were so big

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<v Speaker 1>in like the underground world, or was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, what was that moment I got the bus to

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<v Speaker 5>the show that day?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Bo Wait, So I borrowed the clothes that I was wearing.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to look fly. I had to go borrow

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<v Speaker 5>some clothes from Oh my god, this is so cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what happens after that moment?

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<v Speaker 5>So after that moment I had already I had to

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<v Speaker 5>dream the dream was real. Right, And a friend of

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<v Speaker 5>mine who he was a drug dealer's little brother, a

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<v Speaker 5>big time drug dealer's little brother, and he played football,

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<v Speaker 5>not the drug dealers, the little right, right, and the

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<v Speaker 5>little brother a little come around hours. He was the

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<v Speaker 5>guy who'd come around and he'd have like the best,

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<v Speaker 5>best weed and he'd be drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>You always want to be friends with that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He'd be driving one of his brother's brand new cars.

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<v Speaker 5>He was always and he'd just pull up on us

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<v Speaker 5>and he'd be you know, I'm talking like we're right

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<v Speaker 5>out of high school, we're eighteen, and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you want to smoke some of this week? He's got

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<v Speaker 5>the best fucking weed. And then he's like sprinkling a

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<v Speaker 5>little cocaine across and we're like, oh, this dude ship.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was the moment we knew he was a

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<v Speaker 5>little brother. He wasn't giving him credit for that. He

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<v Speaker 5>was on our level, but he was the little brother

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<v Speaker 5>who could do things right. And he was doing the

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<v Speaker 5>big Willie. I mean, he's like, yeah, you know, my

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<v Speaker 5>brother owned a label, man, and blah blah blah. His

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<v Speaker 5>brother's the kind of guy would ride by the brand

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<v Speaker 5>new Mercedes. It's like nineteen eighty five. He might wave

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<v Speaker 5>at you, you like, you know, you got an image,

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<v Speaker 5>you got a certain perception of him. So he said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna take you induce to my brother. He got

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<v Speaker 5>a label, and he takes me up there, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>after a while, it didn't happen like right off the

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<v Speaker 5>back of his brother to just kind of shitty at first,

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<v Speaker 5>a little bitty. He wouldn't let us in the door,

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<v Speaker 5>like come first couple of times he's like, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 5>come back, come back twenty minutes. So finally he let

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<v Speaker 5>us in. Yeah, and you know, he showed me all

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<v Speaker 5>this shit. He had all this equipment, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>all these fabulous people would come by, and musicians and

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<v Speaker 5>professional sports players, and all this stuff, and he took

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<v Speaker 5>me to the studio and the shit it just hit

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<v Speaker 5>from day one, It just it just worked. And I

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<v Speaker 5>did three albums with They had a label called seventy

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<v Speaker 5>five Girls. And this was the best experience. If I

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<v Speaker 5>looked at it like my internship to the music industry,

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<v Speaker 5>it was the best. It was the best. I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 5>like I think I could have been a drug addict

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<v Speaker 5>if it wasn't or that experience, because there were seasoned

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<v Speaker 5>musicians and people who are around who were really addicted

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<v Speaker 5>to like crack, some of them did heroin. It was

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<v Speaker 5>like like big musicians, like they were like I would

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<v Speaker 5>never drop names because it was literally people that played

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<v Speaker 5>for all three sports teams Oakland A's, the Warriors, oh

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<v Speaker 5>and the Raiders would stop by and it was just

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it was it was nuts. It was that lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 5>So so I got to see people just sit there

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<v Speaker 5>and smoke coke and snorted and I was snorting a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of coke myself, and we put the cocaine and

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<v Speaker 5>the cigarettes and it was just it was all free

0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.680
<v Speaker 5>and ship. The studio sessions used to be drug laced

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<v Speaker 5>and it was, you know, just everybody was just but

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<v Speaker 5>it was also like like I'm eighteen, and when you're eighteen,

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<v Speaker 5>just getting out of high school. In high school, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of times you know the girls at your school

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<v Speaker 5>date older guys, right, and it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>like the super fine ones, they I'll mess with little boys.

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<v Speaker 1>They want the grown metal.

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<v Speaker 5>So here I am. I instantly end up in this

0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 5>crew with these guys, these musicians, and this big dreg

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<v Speaker 5>dealer and we like he like takes me under his wing,

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<v Speaker 5>and all these chicks who, like I know, who are

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<v Speaker 5>like grown ass finance chicks are coming over his house

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<v Speaker 5>and like taking their pants off and just hanging out

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<v Speaker 5>in their panties and because they want to, they want

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<v Speaker 5>to get high and they want to kick it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm just over there like a fly on the wall,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just kind of like just seeing how it

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<v Speaker 5>all goes and player lifestyle and you know, the girls

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<v Speaker 5>in there dancing in their underwear and I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>guys like one of my heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>And right, like you were more of an observer at.

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<v Speaker 5>This It's almost like I was trained to find the

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<v Speaker 5>things and that I liked, like what to do and what.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like it was like, it was basically like

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 2>your graduation, your graduations. I got to see all that

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 2>shit without actually touching it, right, you didn't go down

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.120
<v Speaker 2>that rabbit hole, because you saw it all happening in front.

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 5>I saw that the guy who got all the money

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 5>with the boss man. I saw the guy who did

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 5>all the work and just wanted to get high, was,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, riding around the fucked up car and just

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<v Speaker 5>coming over even if drugs are free. But I'm like,

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't want that life, you know, right right? And

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 5>it just it really prepared me for the next thing

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<v Speaker 5>I did, which is wild start my own company.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now what happens with that?

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<v Speaker 5>How the seventy five Girls was nineteen eighty five. I

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 5>got at high school eighty four. In eighty five and

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<v Speaker 5>eighty six, I was in that environment. I was just

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.639
<v Speaker 5>describing eight ten, nineteen years. I look back on it

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 5>as a treasure because at the same time all this

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 5>stuff is going on, the guy the boss band was

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.680
<v Speaker 5>running an independent label, and literally he would go to

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 5>the studio, pay for the sessions. He would pay the musicians,

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 5>he would pay the engineers. He would take it somewhere

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 5>and get it all mixed down. He would take it

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere else and have it all manufactured and cassettes and records,

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 5>and then he would drive over to San rafael A,

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<v Speaker 5>cross the bridge and drop it off to a distributor.

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 5>Then he would take it to certain mom and pop

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 5>stores that took product direct, and then he would wait

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 5>a while and he'd go making rounds and he just

0:22:58.080 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 5>pick up money and pick up checks.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was it's like a one man show.

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<v Speaker 5>But the whole way, he's telling me, I'm going over here,

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna go over here and talk to George, we're

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 5>gonna stop by here, we're gonna pick up today, and you'

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 5>dropping on he takes. I'm just I'm just learning everything.

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 2>So you're basically getting an education of how to run

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 2>a company, distribute your own product, go to the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>release it.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole thing, and the most important because a lot

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 5>of people didn't know that part. Go get your fucking money.

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just because you put out a song or put

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 2>out an album doesn't mean you're paid.

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of artists when they're young, they don't

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 5>even want the money. They're like, you know, that's my guy,

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 5>My guy, he's got everything.

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm on the radio.

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 5>Find out seven years later your guy is you know

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 5>he took off your body. Yeah, so I got that

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 5>was another lovely thing that everything I ever did in

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 5>business since that little experience was I don't care who

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 5>we're partners, what we're doing. I'm on the bank accounts.

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm the money does not come to anybody. It comes

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 5>to either us or me, doesn't go it doesn't go

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 5>three other parties. You're not gonna tell me the account

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 5>and show me a piece of pain.

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, my dad taught me as a kid

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 2>when I was starting my production company twenty four years ago.

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>He said, always be the signer. Don't let anybody else sign,

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>no matter what. And I took that to heart, and

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I even told you that lot like you always want

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 2>to be signing your own stuff. It doesn't even matter

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 2>if it's a.

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So no one's signing or doing anything on my behalf.

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I freak out if I lose the dollar.

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<v Speaker 5>I pick up any to this day. By the way,

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 5>I don't really collect anything. If I drop it, I'm picking.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I respect I respect that. By the way,

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 2>if you want to talk about the cheapest person on

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the planet is my fiance.

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, people said I keep stying for his money. No,

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm as a.

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Lot of money. She just keeps it all.

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I like it all myself.

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<v Speaker 5>Short.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta know real quick, when did you get the

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>name too short? Was that something you chose for yourself?

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 5>My room name is Todd. And when I got to

0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:01.880
<v Speaker 5>high school, I didn't have a nickname, and my brothers

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 5>was My brother was two grades ahead of me. So

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 5>I get to tenth grade. He's in twelfth grade, and

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 5>they're like the seniors of the school, and he and

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 5>I kind of the first thing I did when I

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:11.959
<v Speaker 5>got to school was kind of clicked up with them

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 5>a little bit because they're already established crew and I'm

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 5>going to a high school. I didn't really know anybody,

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 5>and they I remember, I remember clear as day. We

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 5>was sitting around and they go, well, shit, we damn

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 5>sure're not gonna call you Todd. So and they started

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 5>these are older guys, right, They started throwing all these

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 5>names out, like they're gonna call men that ain't working,

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 5>that ain't working, that ain't working. And then this dude

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 5>came up who everybody knew. His name was Shorty and

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 5>he walks up to the group of people while the

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 5>joke is on, and he's a little bit taller than me,

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 5>and they're like, damn you, he can't name you. He's

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 5>shorter than Shorty, Like somebody said, you're just fucking short.

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 5>So my name was never too short. My name was

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 5>always short because there was a dude name Shorty that

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 5>was taller than me. So my name was short got it.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 5>And I hated that ship is stuff well for you though, yeah,

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 5>and it just and it was just it was a joke,

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 5>like short was always a fucking joke with him, and

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 5>then I flipped it on him. One day, we went

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 5>to see this movie called Penitentiary and the league character

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 5>his name was too Sweet, and he was in jail

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 5>and he was boxing in jail, but they would let

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 5>him out of jail to go get pussy and everybody

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 5>he fought, he beat their ass. He was the hero

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 5>of the movie. So one day I was talking to

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 5>this bum, a homeless guy and I always hung out

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 5>with my brother and them, and they left me. They

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 5>went in the party. I was I was too little

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 5>to go in the party. So it's probably like a

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 5>Friday night and I'm hanging out of this party for

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 5>two three hours talking to this homeless guy. Yeah, because

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 5>my brother didn't will let me go in the party.

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 5>But I'm my mother. My mother probably like, well, if

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 5>you want to go, you gotta take him. So it

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 5>was that type of thing. Oh, I didn't mind. So

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm hanging outside. I'm asking us. I used to always

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.959
<v Speaker 5>ask homeless people questions. I still do. Really, just how

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 5>was life? You know, that's nice, but you get a

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 5>lot of information.

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've been through some ship.

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Well. I went to school, prit Art High School in Miami,

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 2>in downtown, and it was filled with all those people,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and I used to have conversations. I used to you know,

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 2>wh I hear things. Maybe not as a death, but

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I definitely always was opened mind.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So I can see it in Short's eyes. He gives it.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Damn about it.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, it's cool to give a fuck.

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you give a lot of fus. I

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>can tell by his eyes.

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I told them. The homeless guy asked me

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 5>what my name was, and I didn't want to say Todd,

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 5>so and I didn't want to stay short. I didn't

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 5>have ship to say, so I thought of the movie

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 5>you're too sweet, and I thought the joke was short,

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 5>and I said, yeah, my name is too short, and

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 5>that's how yeah, and so he kind of, uh when

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 5>my brother name came out the party, he kind of

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 5>was like saying, all right, all right, you know, like

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 5>we like we homies and were saying goodbye, yeah, and

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 5>he yelled out my name and then it just it.

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Just took off.

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 5>It just took off, like he called me too short

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 5>in front of him and they were like that that's it,

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 5>and he said it kind of cool, like too so

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 5>it put a little swag on.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It, and I really got some swag.

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 5>And then I started rapping. I started rapping. I'm like,

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm too short. Was it was initially sir too short?

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 5>I went to the mall one day. I got me

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 5>a hat. It was a black hat with gold letters.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 5>It said sir too short. And when he got the jacket,

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 5>the match with the too short, it's an international on

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 5>this sleeve and player on that sleeve, and I was

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 5>instantly too short.

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>At the end.

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>That homeless man single handedly put you in the direction

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>of being too We.

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Killed the joke that day.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>It was no, it was never the joke was over

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>from that day on International Superstar. All Right, we're gonna

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna take quick break because we have a lot

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>more to talk about, uh, and we'll be right back

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>with too Short, Too Short.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>All Right, y'all, we are back, and we have too Short.

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>He is talking to us about the good old day.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Is I like, I feel like I'm sitting here cheesing

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>because like you're a great storyteller.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Short, Yeah, really good.

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Listen to you for hours. It's life, a great life

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I can tell.

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I just want to ask a questions. So, and I

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is factual, but people say that

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you're likely the only rappers who have recorded with both Tupac,

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>b I G and jay Z. I mean, I just

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>want to have a story to the greatness of your

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>ability mixing with their ability. Just something.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Well, I know there's there's a combination of artists. There's

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 5>a lot of artists who have a combination of you know,

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 5>two of the three or whatever. But no, I've been

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 5>on I was on two Biggie albums and two jay

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Z albums, so oh, I don't think anybody's done that.

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 5>And then also, you know, during the during the so

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 5>called East Coast West Coast Beef and all that stuff.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 5>I was neutral. I was kind of like I lived

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 5>in Atlanta at the time, and you couldn't bring that

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 5>to me, Like it just it wasn't I was not

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 5>a part of that thing because had a lot of

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 5>friends in Atlanta, a lot of friends in New York,

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 5>a lot of friends in la and a lot of

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 5>friends at Death Row and a lot of friends at

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 5>Bad Boys.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>So you were in every you were part of everything,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Like relationships.

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 5>I was really cool with Tupac, Snoop Dogg and Shig Night.

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 5>I was really really cool with uh Notoris Big and

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 5>Puff Daddy and BIG's crew. And it was just a

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 5>thing like if you were positioned properly at the time,

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 5>that thing was between them and other people started going back.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 5>Ride with Tupac man, I ride with Big. I'm the

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 5>East Coast on West Coast. But if you were positioned properly,

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 5>like I was with the bosses and you know, as

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 5>well as with the artists, and like, right, I don't

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 5>think I'm not in your politics. I'm from I'm I'm

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 5>from Oakland. We have it right, and we byry We're

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 5>not East or West Bay. That's how we played it.

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>How was what What's I mean? Do you have a

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>story from two backed Share that was like special or

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean these are legends obviously to all of us

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>sitting here listening.

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm older than all these guys. I'm the big homie.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm like platinum millions of records. So before any

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 5>of these guys get in.

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>The game, oh shit, So you know I didn't know

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>that before.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 5>Jay Z, before Big, before Snoop and Park, I'm platinum

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 5>out there already. These guys literally grew up listening to

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 5>two Short like literally, so you were.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Like the godfather to them. As they were coming up.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>They looked up to you and me as an artist,

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, I had the success, but Tupac was

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 5>really good friends with people that I worked with. I

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 5>worked with a guitar player named Shorty B. He also

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 5>worked with Digital Underground. Okay, I worked with a keyboard

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 5>player named pee Wee and he also worked with Digital Underground.

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 5>So Digital Underground is a very funky band that made

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 5>the Humpty Dance and songs like that, and the leader

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 5>of the band was a musician, he was a keyboard player,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 5>and we did a lot of stuff together. Are clicks

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 5>were really close. I knew the management. Excuse me, I

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 5>knew the DJ knew you know, we were close. You

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 5>can go back and look at a DVD. It sounds

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 5>funny to save it.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 5>It's like I did a thing called short Dogs in

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 5>the House, named after one of my albums. We used

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 5>to always have like a little video thing to go

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 5>concert or whatever to go with the album. And I

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 5>didn't notice it two years later. But Tupac's like a

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 5>little guy in the background, just like dancing and kicking,

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 5>and he's you know, shot g is the leader of

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 5>digit Underground. He was hosting my party. So he's going

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 5>around a microphone interviewing people. And Tupac was like, you know,

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 5>he's a little homie and we were always close.

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that, So wait, how can we see this?

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 4>How can I see this called short Dogs in the House?

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Probably you or something like that.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I have to see this.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 5>So Tupac would come around. He'd be around at times

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 5>before he was really really famous. He'd be around because

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 5>he used to hang out with Richie rich which is

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 5>another one of my homies, and Richie rich was like

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 5>his kind of Oakland mentor so to speak. Like his

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 5>big homie from Oakland that took him around and you know,

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 5>and got him accepted. Because if you go back and

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 5>look at those videos, Brenda's got a baby and when

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 5>my homies called, Like the video when my Homies, that's

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 5>probably Tupac's first video before. That's he's in the car.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 5>That's Richie Rich. That's Richie Rich's car. That's you know,

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 5>that's the that's the hommy. So Richie Rich is my

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 5>hommy homie, and Tupac will come around. He'd be like

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 5>the little hommy. You know, I'm Raisy. I'm like short dog.

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 5>So I can't. I can't really Tupacs every time he

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 5>ever appeared on the song it was the ship. So

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm a fan from day one. Brenda's got a baby.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>He's very prolific.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 5>He's a young cat, and he's saying these things that

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 5>are big, big things to say, you know, I'm talking

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 5>about teenage pregnancy. And then he does interviews, and in

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 5>his interviews he's a voice. He's like really speaking on

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 5>unjust thinks. Like from the start. So I'm admirer and

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 5>admirer of his from the start, but when he comes around,

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 5>I can't tell him.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>That he's like one of the greatest poets. Sound like

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>we're knocking out.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, what's up, homie?

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 5>So we had that kind of relationship where we ended

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 5>up on a few songs together because we hung out

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 5>in the same circles and we get around each other.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 5>We would never He's one of those guys that I

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 5>I do it with Snoop too. When I hang around

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 5>those kind of guys, I kind of fade away because

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 5>they're so fucking popular and so famous and so magnetic

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 5>that they get all the attention, and I love it

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 5>because I'm I never wanted to be famous, So when

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 5>I get around those real famous guys, I kind of like, just.

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>You're pretty famous. So I have all the hard time

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 2>with this, I know, but.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to be meaning I don't want to

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 5>be face recognized.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>You just focus, you just kind of pull back.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 5>So I get around guys like that and I just

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 5>take it off. I'm cool with that. So it was

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 5>it was that kind of thing. We'd all get around

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 5>each other, and I wouldn't I wouldn't try to be

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 5>the loud guy in the room right or the or

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 5>the you know, the one with all the glow So

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 5>and those guys, those guys like Tupac would take over

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 5>a room. If he came in the room, he'd take

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 5>over big, same thing with big.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>They just right. Yeah, I didn't know either of them.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 5>And jay Z's on the quiet side. He doesn't. He

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 5>doesn't really do a lot of loud ship talking.

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I met him and he seemed really really quiet and mellow.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>He's very calculated, very calculated.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>He's observing the room.

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 5>But when they when they depict Tupac in movies, it

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 5>kind of bothers me because I saw him quite often

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 5>in my life, and he never was the same person twice. Like,

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 5>he never was. He wasn't like I probably sounding like

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 5>that once or twice maybe a lot of times he'd

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 5>come up and he'd be very introspective or in an

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 5>intelligent mood, or he'd be militant, or he'd be you know, gangster,

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 5>or he'd just be quiet. He'd be smoking a cigarette,

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 5>drinks and here, and like, he was never this person because.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh I know how Tupac is, like you can, I don't,

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 4>because it was just always different.

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 5>He was a very multi faceted person. Yeah, listen to

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 5>his music. One minute, he's saying, oh, you know, it's

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 5>keep my sisters up, hold your head up next to

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 5>me and saying, bitch stuck my dick.

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>The next minute he's saying, I fucked your bitch, you

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>fat motherfucker.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 5>I saw Tupac the night he got shot in Vegas,

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 5>and uh, I mean, we're always at the fire he

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 5>went to the fight.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Uh.

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 5>We stayed at that same hotel, the Luxor, and they

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 5>were they had probably gotten to the altercation at the

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 5>thing and went back to the hotel and we bumped

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 5>into them on their way to the club. They said

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 5>they had to they weren't wearing the clothes that they

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 5>got shot, and they were wearing different clothes, and they said,

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna go about Sugarhouse changed and then go to

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 5>the party. Come to come up to the clubs. You know,

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 5>he's like, it's gonna be open, like everybody getting on

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 5>the mic tonight. So you know, he figured me one

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 5>of those nights where DJ spending different people's tracks and

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 5>we all rock at the crowd and it's not the

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 5>club wasn't that big and it was just probably it

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 5>would have been the ship. Oh my god, it never happened.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's fucking epic. God, yeah, you were there. I

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.479
<v Speaker 2>mean you were there are hours before this last time

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 2>been probably about them.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 5>Not two hours later we heard.

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>About the shooting. Oh my god. And and not to

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, harp, but I mean, I know that moment

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 2>changed the world for everybody. And obviously what's going on

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>today we'll get into, but that that moment when you

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>heard where were you when you heard it? Were you

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 2>in the club?

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 5>Were you We were on our way to the club,

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 5>and there were run around pretty quick, and and even

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 5>the crime scenees, you know, like it was all that

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 5>whole intersection.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>It was a big deal.

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 5>But but it was you know, there was there was

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 5>a buzz in the air that night that that it

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 5>was going to be some friction, because really, I would

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm wondering, like, was it from the time of the

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 5>fight until the time of shooting. It could have been

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 5>like two three hours or something somewhere in there, and

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 5>it was in the air. It was like death row

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 5>got into it with some cribs and blah blah blah.

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 5>So it was people who were saying, it's probably gonna

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 5>be a thing at the club.

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, so you you knew there was something going to

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>have it, but nobody back to this right. It was

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 2>just like and I mean we're still going to the club. Wow.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 5>My old theory back then was like you go to

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 5>a place where you think it might be some violence.

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, shit, it's gonna be bound people. The bullet

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 5>ain't gonna hit me.

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow. That was my theory. Oh well, let me let

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 2>me pivot here for a second. Uh. You know, I

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you've been a friend, You've showed up for us,

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and you've uh performed for us when you didn't have to,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and we're very generous, you know. And

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I think that now the last week, what we've all

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 2>been through with you know, George Floyd and Black Lives Matter,

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously has changed the world. You know, I

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>hope for the better. And uh and I hope a

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of people uh open their eyes you know to

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>things that you know, we're artists, we were talking about

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 2>it before. You know, as artists, you know, you grow

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 2>up and you don't see the things that maybe other people,

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 2>how other people treat each other. Because we work with everybody.

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, whether you're black, white, purple, green, female, male, gay, straight,

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. It's at least the way I was

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>raised and grew up in the arts. But today, you know,

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>but that's not the world everywhere else you were telling me,

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you were just saying, how that's one percent,

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, of LA is.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 5>A different a different thing when you specifically, specifically talking

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 5>about Hollywood and being on video sets and TV sets

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 5>and movie sets and in the offices that running production companies,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 5>and it's it's very, very diverse in Hollywood and all

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 5>aspects of from the highest to the lows, as far

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 5>as directors and producers and all the casting directors.

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>You never know, right, it doesn't. But but then you

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 2>go outside the rest of the country and the world

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 2>and that doesn't exist. And so now here we are today,

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the protests going on, and I think,

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't even know, if not how the

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>numbers compare it to other big but to me, it

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>feels like the world is gonna have to wake up, right,

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're gonna have to wake up and and

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it make change.

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna keep doing the same thing, and if we

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 5>don't do something different, it's gonna be the same thing.

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 5>And the same thing is it always comes to a

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 5>point where we go, oh my god, let's discuss this, right,

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 5>and we come with all these solutions, and it just

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 5>seems yeah, it just you know, because this has been

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 5>serious for about this has been a serious, Okay, we'll

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 5>fix it for about ten plus years, like seriously, Like

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 5>cops are unjustly choking people out. That's been a thing. Yeah,

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 5>and it doesn't seem to go away, like it's just

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 5>and to me, it's like a cycle. Yeah to me,

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm I'm fifty four, and I came up

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 5>at a time where in Oakland, California, where as young

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 5>black man, we got harassed, Like harassment was not unjust.

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 5>It was the norm, you know what I mean. It

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 5>was like it's not it's not like oh man, I

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 5>just got handcuffed on the way over hears and somebody

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 5>be like, man, I got a handcuff yesterday, like you know,

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 5>like it was normal.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 5>And then you know in recent years when in New

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 5>York with the stopping frisk it's it didn't have to

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 5>have a name. It was always stopping frisk. It was

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 5>always a fear of when you get when you're in

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 5>your car and you get pulled over, you have to

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 5>get out the car to get searched, and it's always

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 5>that fear while they're searching your car, like I there's

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 5>nothing in my car. But I've heard from so many

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 5>people that they come out with this bag and go, hey,

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 5>what's this and you're like, it's not mine. Yeah, this

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 5>shit happens. It's just you have this fear of You

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 5>don't have fear of white people, you don't have fear

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 5>of society, you have fear of police, right, And it's like,

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 5>this guy could fuck my day up.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to tell you something. It's you know,

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 2>growing up in the arts like you and and being

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 2>in such a diverse universe my whole life. You know,

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 2>it exists. You know that the world, some of the

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>world is stuck in a time warp. And I'm glad

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>that that we're gonna wake up the world that is

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 2>still sleeping. What I think that shocked me, even somebody

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>who's forty nine years old and has been around for

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 2>a long time, When that police officer sat on his

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>neck for eight plus minutes, I don't I can't even

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>comprehend that. Mentally, I can't even get my I still

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 2>think about it. I listened to the words that he

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>was saying, Wow, how the fuck could this happen?

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 5>He got it out pretty clear. I can't breathe right right,

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 5>I can't breathe.

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Along with a bunch of other people that were standing

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in a position telling him that something is happening and

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to stop and it's the video is horrific. And I

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 1>want to know that when when you were a child,

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>did your mom ever have to have those conversations with you?

0:42:59.520 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 5>Is it thing that's sort of like in the context

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 5>of the Willie Lynch letter, whatever the you know, the

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 5>Willy Lynch the thing is where you don't have to

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 5>be the slave. You don't have to discipline them. You

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 5>just have to convince his mother that if you don't

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 5>control him, I'm going to kill him. So if my

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 5>mother didn't have to say, these are the rules of

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 5>you as a little black kid going out in the world.

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>This is what you do.

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 5>Like the fear is instilled from day one. It's like,

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 5>if you know it's this this fear like like from

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 5>I can remember from the seventies, been a little kid

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 5>like you. The fucking police like you. They come down

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 5>to block and you don't go hot miss to officer.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 5>You yeah, you like, that's almost like that's definite enemy,

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 5>that's the enemy.

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>But that that and that and that's that's disgusting to me,

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>that that's how it is. That one and I and

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that this, you know, with what's going on,

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I think even somebody like myself, who has been isolated

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>in a very open world, uh now is starting to

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 2>see things that I didn't even see the conversation. Even

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>for me, hearing things like this, it's just it's just

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 2>disgusting on every level and out. And I'm happy the

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 2>world is standing up so.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 5>That the argument about the police and their authority and

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 5>abusing it has a lot of layers. And I think

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 5>that's something very important, is that a lot of the

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 5>reason why the police are needed in high crime areas

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 5>and inner cities is because of conditions that were created,

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 5>not things that just happen, Like you take away opportunities

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 5>or you don't even give opportunities, and this is what you.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Get, zero opportunity, Like this is what is there's no opportunity.

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 5>If you go to send if you're going to send

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 5>a kid the kindergarten and not teach him, shit, what

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 5>do you think he's going to be in fifteen. You know,

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying, what then are you gonna give? You're

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 5>gonna get nothing in return. So it's not it's not

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 5>the people by a whole, it's it's definitely the system.

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:11.280
<v Speaker 5>It's definitely that you're not giving a certain a certain

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 5>group of people a chance, and then you don't want

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 5>to give them a chance because you're biased against him

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 5>because of race or color or religion or something. And

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 5>then you this goes. This is not just black white

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 5>in America. This is every religion dispute, every race or

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 5>neighboring country dispute, all over the world. It's the same

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 5>fucking idiots it everywhere when you get to the root

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 5>of it, like why do you hate your next door neighborhood?

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 5>Like it's no fucking.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Reason, right, there is no reason.

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I I really, you know, having watched you know,

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm an optimist. I've always been. Some people are pessimist,

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 2>but I'm an optimist. And I feel like this is

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>something that was long overdue and and and I do

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 2>pray and hope and will fight for you know that change.

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So and I don't mean it just in some politically

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 2>correct bullshit, because you know me and you know my

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 2>work and what I've done, and I just I just

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 2>think that other people have to, you know, change. I

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 2>mean the world has to change. And there are people

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 2>who you know, you know, have changed for decades, but

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>there are too many people that are stuck in their ways.

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 2>And I really hope the Black Lives Matter movement, the protesting,

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 2>the standing up, the blocking off streets, the education that

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I think people that were so uneducated because they lived

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 2>in a bubble maybe and I pray that this will

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.240
<v Speaker 2>move the thinking forward and change.

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean real change, not just well short,

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you're you're a mentor at Youth Uprising.

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I was for a while.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And what did that entail when you were doing that?

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 5>There was there is a place Oakland call Youth Uprising

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 5>that was built in the neighborhood in the you know,

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 5>right next to a high school. And it was just

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 5>so that kids, I think it was the ages were

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 5>like twelve to eighteen nineteen somewhere like that. Yeah, I

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.240
<v Speaker 5>can't remember the age group now, but they were allowed

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.479
<v Speaker 5>to come there and participate in a lot of things.

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 5>You know a lot of cities have this, but of course,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 5>but I like that place because it focused on a

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 5>lot of things artistic. It was had a lot to

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 5>do with music and dance, and so you felt like you.

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Were a part of something instead of after school, you know,

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going and getting into trouble. You had a place

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>where you could go and focus on music or I

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>was just.

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, I just wanted to be a part of

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 5>the solution. And not so much as I looked into.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.320
<v Speaker 2>What they do.

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Like a lot of people people go get these grants

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 5>and all this stuff and they do it in the

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 5>name of the kids, and we're gonna have these programs

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 5>and stuff. But they to me, I looked at a

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff and I'm like, you're not really impacting

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 5>the kids firsthand. So I wanted to be a part

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 5>of something where I interacted with them. I literally made

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 5>music with them. I literally, you know, they put on

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 5>shows and I even you know, took some of them

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 5>out to do shows to perform on stage with me.

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 5>And if you look and eat for these videos, most

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 5>of those kids that do the dance and I'm from

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 5>youth up rising, like wow, like we you know a

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 5>lot of them, you know, grew up into society to

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 5>do stuff with their talents that they learned at Youth

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 5>up Rising so it continues to this day, and I

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 5>applaud all places like that that, you know, just give

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 5>inner city kids opportunity to play sports, to make music,

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:41.760
<v Speaker 5>to do something other than just go home and do nothing,

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 5>like you know. And I had the one thing that

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 5>touched me at Youth Theft Riising that I never forget

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 5>is a kid, A little kid asked me did I

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 5>know where he could buy a gun? And you know,

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to go tell on him or scold him,

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 5>so I asked him why, Like, we't need a gun.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.720
<v Speaker 5>He was like, well, I live on such and such street,

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 5>and he said the guys that I got to walk

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 5>past on my way home are enemies with the guys

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 5>that I live by. And he's like, the guys that

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 5>I live by don't like me because I don't want

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 5>to be a part of what they're doing. He's like,

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 5>so it's dangerous to go home, like just from school

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:25.919
<v Speaker 5>to home. He's uh, is playing with his life. Wow,

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 5>And he's like, I just need a gun to get home.

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 4>And what what did?

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you even say to something like that?

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 5>So what you thought Uprising would do is Youth Uprising

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 5>had guys that worked there who were you know, X

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 5>street guys, and these guys would find out about situations

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 5>like that and they would go talk to all parties involved.

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 5>They will talk to the guys who are both the

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 5>enemy side, and they say, look, you guys are enemies.

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.919
<v Speaker 5>I ain't trying to get in your business. It's done

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 5>what you're doing. Because a little guy who's got to

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 5>walk home from school every day, he don't want to

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 5>be your enemy. Can you guys not fuck with him?

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 4>And it weren' sometimes sometimes and it works and they go, okay, we.

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 5>Seen a little honey, you thought he was with them,

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 5>and you get it all clarified and just leave alone.

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 5>And he wants to be a good kid. And a

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 5>lot of times bad kids will allow the good kid

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 5>to be good. They'll allow you to play sports, they

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 5>will allow you to be excelling academics, the like, he's

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 5>not one of us. Take care of him. He might

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:18.880
<v Speaker 5>make it out of here. They understand.

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just want to say, because we're basically out

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of time, I want to I want to know anything

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.400
<v Speaker 2>that you have coming up that I need to know about,

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>because I know you do.

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Do you ever want to hear some good music.

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Always always too short, drop it, go to Spotify.

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 5>I do a weekly playlist. It's called Trunk Tuesdays Drunk

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Tuesday like this, and I keep it like one hundred

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 5>songs in rotation. A lot of it is new, too

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 5>short stuff, a lot of it's just stuff. It's the stuff,

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, the trunck is. You know, I got woofers

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 5>in the trunk of my car and it's all that stuff.

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 5>It's the ship that I ride too. So I've been

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 5>introducing a lot of my new music on There's something

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 5>I just started probably like a month ago, so just

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 5>now growing it. Trunk Tuesday is on Spotify, and it's

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 5>about new artists. I'm working with new artists that I'm supporting,

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 5>and I'm just trying to help, just help the industry,

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:04.320
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 2>So so everybody listening on this podcast, all hundred thousand

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 2>of you, go to Trunk Tuesdays at Spotify. I'm not

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 2>playing because this is one of the greatest.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Artists and I'm gonna hustle my way into two shorts

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Trunk Tuesday playlists. All right, dude, sure, it was truly

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to have you on. We're so grateful.

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for everything.

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:27.280
<v Speaker 5>Thanks Davie.

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Always takes coming through all right, Thanks guys,