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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 6: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 7: Big job there, UFI a fret beers.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure I have looked forward to an episode

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Speaker 6: of the Anakin Flooring Podcast as much as this one.

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Speaker 6: Maybe some close, not many on this level. It's Monday,

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Speaker 6: October twenty six, twenty twenty, episode two seventy three of

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Speaker 6: the Anakin Floring Podcast. I've already lived my Monday. I

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Speaker 6: just did thirty four hours door to door twenty four

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Speaker 6: of which we're spent in the air, so that's your

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Speaker 6: off the top apology can flow. My head spinning dizzy

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Speaker 6: a little bit, but it's damn good to see your face.

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Speaker 6: You are back on the East coast TBD on his

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Speaker 6: final stop for everybody asking me this weekend where ken

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Speaker 6: Flow is moving, Penflow's keeping things close to the vest.

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Speaker 6: It's great to see you. Your internet seems to be working.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 7: The batman doesn't reveal his identity, nor does the ideal

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Speaker 7: you know, identify where he's going to live, so come on, guys.

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Speaker 6: No, dude, it's great to be talking to you.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited to talk about this amazing car that went

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Speaker 7: down this weekend, and I'm glad you're back safely.

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Speaker 8: Dude.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that it was a long journey. Fight Island

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Speaker 6: is a paradise in a lot of respects. It's weird

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Speaker 6: sort of going back to a climate when you leave

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Speaker 6: the bubble, you know, you leave the bubble. We probably

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Speaker 6: don't use the word bubble on the air enough, right

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Speaker 6: the NBA. It's all about the bubble for us. It's

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Speaker 6: Fight Island. But it is interesting when you go back

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Speaker 6: to McCarran airport. You know, it feels like a cesspool

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Speaker 6: compared to fight island. And I like when you call

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Speaker 6: yourself Batman, because rest assured I am Robin in this

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Speaker 6: equation for sure. So we have a ton to get

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Speaker 6: to today, a ton to get to today. As we

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Speaker 6: begin headlines with of course Kabeb nor Mago Meta, we'll

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Speaker 6: spend some time on who might fight for the vacant

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Speaker 6: lightweight title, but we certainly want to give Kabeb as

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Speaker 6: much time as humanly possible off the top of the program.

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Speaker 6: Today he makes the third successful defense of his title,

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Speaker 6: his final professional flight at twenty nine to zero Ken Flow.

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Speaker 6: If his mother had it her way, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 6: even fought justin Gaechee. But Kabeb, I think professionally legacy wise,

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Speaker 6: wanted to close this chapter and these last two wins.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's beaten guys who have belts, right interim

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Speaker 6: champions and just making it look easy. This is the

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Speaker 6: best division in MMA, according to you and me, and

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Speaker 6: this is certainly the greatest lightweight of all time, and

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Speaker 6: he couldn't have put a better capstone on his soon

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Speaker 7: He really is a great study for a lot of

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Speaker 7: the professional fighters out there who want to kind of

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Speaker 7: and kind of having that aura about him. I think

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Speaker 7: he really went about it the right way. He got

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Speaker 7: himself a bunch of experience before he went to the UFC.

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Speaker 7: He slowly worked his way up, fought everybody there was

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Speaker 7: all he did was get better and shine and shine,

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Speaker 7: and that that is just, you know, the best way

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Speaker 7: to sum up Habib Normaga Medoff. The guy is a phenom.

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Speaker 7: It's been amazing to see what he's done. We called

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Speaker 7: his first fight in the UFCA Kamal Shla Russ and man,

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Speaker 7: what a ride, What a pleasure it was to see

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Speaker 6: So your commentary debut was actually UFC eighty three correct, yes, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 6: Dana and Craig Borsorry before the fights, and that was

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow, because what do people think he was doing? Right,

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Speaker 6: I'm not sitting here telling you that he can go

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Speaker 6: Jaby Hermandez two years ago, was like, dude, you should

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Speaker 7: Listen, I think still waters run deep and Habib normalga

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Speaker 7: Metoff is one of those guys who we probably didn't

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Speaker 7: So I think that he made a lot of things

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Speaker 6: It was just not to be. Habib just too damn good.

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Speaker 7: You know, Gaechie was so worried, he was so worried

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Speaker 7: You know, I think, when you're so concerned with that

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Speaker 6: I think that's what Geatechie got locked into.

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Speaker 7: It's a testament to Habib and the threat that he

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, that's why Hibibe was having success

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Speaker 7: He didn't know what to do, and he was so

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Speaker 7: he could not maintain that pace. And for Habib, it

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Speaker 6: And so even though Gates he told me that the

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Speaker 6: a little bit at the hotel, But Kabib Normago Metov

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Speaker 6: like and now. So Kabib was the total package. You're

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Speaker 6: not gonna hear much of the greatest of all time

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Speaker 6: I certainly think he is that right with respect to

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Speaker 6: John Jones, to dominate this way, to not have any

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Speaker 6: don't even believe knock down. Maybe he was knocked down,

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Speaker 6: but I don't think any of these things happened. And

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Speaker 6: think Kabib committed a foul in his entire UFC career,

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Speaker 6: So I won't argue if you want to say he's

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Speaker 6: This is just an incredible, incredible win. And technically speaking

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Speaker 6: on the ground, can you just talk us to the submission?

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Speaker 6: And you know, the referee, Jason Herza kind of feels

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, number one, justin Gatchie wasn't able to

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Speaker 6: All right, So we're losing Ken flows Internet. If you

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Speaker 6: wonder why, yep, go ahead, you there, yes, all right.

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Speaker 6: So if people are wondering why, like a moment ago,

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Speaker 6: I talked for a really fucking long time. If he

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Speaker 6: Flows Internet down there in the southeastern part of the

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Speaker 6: United States. We won't even reveal the state for you

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Speaker 6: folks today. I'm sorry about that. But Ken Flow talk

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Speaker 6: me through this submission, right, and gay Chie's inability from

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Speaker 6: to do anything and Habib's finish if you would, you

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Speaker 6: got it, man?

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Speaker 7: So you know for Habib, his his head was in

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Speaker 6: It was right on Gai Chee's chest.

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Speaker 7: Uh so Gechie didn't even have the opportunity to scramble

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Speaker 7: And I heard what DC said about, you know, him

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Speaker 6: I'm okay. If Habib is now the number one pound

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Speaker 7: See, you're brilliant, so you put you put together this

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Speaker 7: You know, listen, I think I think it's it is complicated.

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Speaker 7: the greatest. So you have Demetrius Johnson, you have John Jokes.

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Speaker 7: Are we talking about the way in which he won?

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Speaker 7: So there's so many different ways where you can kind

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Speaker 6: It to stop. I'm just so in awe of that

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Speaker 6: the emotional outpour I think was not surprising to people.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think ninety nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 7: So absolutely, And how how old is he right now?

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Speaker 7: He's young, and I think you make it. You bring

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Speaker 6: Again, I don't see that. I really don't see MMA.

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Speaker 6: I don't see MMA for Kabib Normagol Madow. I really don't.

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Speaker 6: There is absolutely nothing left to prove he wouldn't return

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Speaker 5: I think we know Kobeb is a principled man. He's

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Speaker 6: That's fair right now.

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Speaker 9: His family and friends, and he's had an amazing career.

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Speaker 6: with a transgression free list, Habiba's number one. Okay. I

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Speaker 6: to digest all of this and figure it out because

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Speaker 6: everybody's got an agenda. Speaking of witch and we will

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Speaker 6: get to Longo in a couple minutes, but I'm sure

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Speaker 6: he's not quite ready, so you can tell him maybe

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Speaker 6: seven to fifteen, So excuse me. In terms of who

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Speaker 6: love on kabebe obviously from Ray. We paired it down

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Speaker 6: my man.

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Speaker 8: Drop the drop and pop the pop. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonnas a whole in this fucking shop.

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Speaker 8: Stop.

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Speaker 4: That's what I want, is the Ray Longo minute story

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Speaker 4: the John Nik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't go to therapy. I go to Ray

485
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Speaker 6: Longo and I'm gonna call you tomorrow. I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna do the Ray Longo Minute right here, but

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna call you tomorrow. I'm just happy to see

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Speaker 6: your face. I appreciate the text. While I was on

489
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Speaker 6: the air, I didn't get great service in Abudah, so

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Speaker 6: I got that thirty to twenty seven text when I

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Speaker 6: landed back in the States. So that's why I didn't

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Speaker 6: write you back.

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Speaker 8: I'd love to know. I really would have loved to

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Speaker 8: know what round they gave Cannoneer in that. I really

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Speaker 8: I thought that was pretty clear. I thought that was

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Speaker 8: the great you know, like that night Again. It goes

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Speaker 8: back to I think everybody and everybody's human. But I

498
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Speaker 8: really believe this. It could never be proven, and I

499
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Speaker 8: might I'm a conspiracy theory, but I think they go

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Speaker 8: win with who they think is going to win, and

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Speaker 8: then somehow they start to develop a narrative if they

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Speaker 8: have a little leeway, just a little, because I guess

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Speaker 8: you could say, hey, the lake Kicks were more important

504
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Speaker 8: and controlling everything else. I mean, but it's just not

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Speaker 8: the case. And the damage was one Whittaker I thought

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Speaker 8: did such a phenomenal job. I mean, I thought that

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Speaker 8: was an easy thirty twenty seven in a nice fight.

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Speaker 8: Both guys came out. I took part, yeah, and kind

509
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Speaker 8: of it did great man. He came back at the

510
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Speaker 8: end after get and drop. So hats off to him,

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Speaker 8: great guy. It has nothing to do with anything, but

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Speaker 8: I thought Whitika controlled that fight from start to finish.

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Speaker 8: And I don't know lake kicks didn't as much as

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Speaker 8: they landed. The guy was bouncing around like I never

515
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Speaker 8: saw him before. He looked like finally, And I'm happy

516
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Speaker 8: for the guy because I think he's a great guy.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think he pitched the shutout and he

518
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Speaker 8: came back to for him. He looked like he got

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Speaker 8: to Whittaker's for him, and which is great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kenny, I don't know how you score like leg

521
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Speaker 6: kicks versus jabs, but Whitaker did outstrike Cannoneer by a

522
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Speaker 6: pretty significant margin in both rounds one and two, and

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Speaker 6: I thought he won the third round as well. I

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Speaker 6: talked to both fighters after the fact. You know, I mean, dude,

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Speaker 6: Cannon ear Man broke his on the bone. But with

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Speaker 6: the first kick, you know, right, eyes like completely shut orbital.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's like man, tough, tough one for the

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Speaker 6: killer Gorilla for sure, Kenny. What do you think?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, without question, I thought that Whittaker won that

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Speaker 7: fight easily. Thirty twenty seven. I thought he was landing more.

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Speaker 7: I thought the shots that Cannoneer was throwing were kind

532
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Speaker 7: of missing, especially when when he was throwing with his hands.

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Speaker 7: He did find had some success early with his leg

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Speaker 7: kicking game. But I thought that was a clear win

535
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Speaker 7: for Whittaker. I thought Whittaker was on point technically. I

536
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Speaker 7: thought his patients really paid off. His experience paid off.

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Speaker 7: He knew when to win the rounds, how to do it.

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Speaker 7: I thought he was pretty masterful out there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent agree.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to spend a lot of time on

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Speaker 6: the scoring. I thought there was a thirty to twenty

542
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Speaker 6: seven though, was it twenty nine to twenty eight across

543
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Speaker 6: the board? Because that's what Wikipedia's telling me right now,

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Speaker 6: twenty nine to twenty eight across the board? Well either way, yeah,

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Speaker 6: here or there.

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Speaker 8: But really just a side note, I look if the

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Speaker 8: Whittaker man, he was a great guy, and I thought

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Speaker 8: he did a great job and he deserved a twenty

549
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Speaker 8: thirty twenty seven. That was my only point. But hats

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Speaker 8: off to both guys.

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Speaker 6: Man a great fight, And as I told Cannoneer after

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Speaker 6: the fact, I don't think he loses a lot of

553
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Speaker 6: middleweight steam. I mean for Whittaker Kenny, right, he's not

554
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Speaker 6: in any great rush to get back in there because

555
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Speaker 6: he's having his fourth kid in January and he wants

556
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Speaker 6: to be around for the holidays, and he's missed times

557
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Speaker 6: with training camps around the birth of his kids. So

558
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Speaker 6: lord knows, I told him why he wants a fourth child, right,

559
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Speaker 6: But he's having a fourth kid in January, and so

560
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 6: he's not in any great rush to fight out Asana,

561
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Speaker 6: even though he absolutely as the number one contender, just

562
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 6: earned a title fight as the former undisputed check like,

563
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 6: there's no question he's number one middle contender, middleway contender.

564
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Speaker 6: His boss wants to make the fight, but he doesn't

565
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Speaker 6: seem to have an appetite for it, so at least

566
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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think out of Son, you put the horns

568
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 8: on that pool guy by saying you're getting a shot

569
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Speaker 8: if you win. I think he screwed him up. I

570
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 8: swear to God, think he screwed him up. The pool guy.

571
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Speaker 8: He thought he was it was an easy win. Out

572
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Speaker 8: of Son, youa thinks I'm gonna win now, I'm only joking,

573
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Speaker 8: but you know what I mean that stuff? Yeah, I

574
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 8: don't like those kiss of deaths Kenny went before the fight,

575
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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. It's just yeah, yeah, it's weird.

576
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Speaker 6: Hey, Ray, I want to get to Kabee. But do

577
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Speaker 6: you remember when Ken Flow fought Clay Guda. I'm gonna say, yeah, what,

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Speaker 6: all right, We'll just go to his Instagram story if

579
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Speaker 6: you would later today because I remember it as a

580
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Speaker 6: hugely important fight in his career. But I do not.

581
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Speaker 6: I knew he bloodied him and battered him and basically

582
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 6: knocked him out and choked him out in the same fight.

583
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Speaker 6: I love Clay, I love his dad, right. I just

584
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 6: I was in Kenflow's Instagram story today and I would

585
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Speaker 6: encourage all my Instagram and Twitter followers to go watch

586
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 6: that fight if you haven't. This was not on our

587
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 6: show Rundown today, Kenny, and don't be don't be humble,

588
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 6: but dude like he treated Clay like I'd be careful here,

589
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: which verb I use, you know, But it's just I

590
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 6: just go watch that fight. Like if you're if you

591
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 6: were born in like the nineties, right or the two thousands.

592
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 6: Fucking go google Kenny Flooring versus Claig Geda.

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Speaker 8: That's not man, Kenny the humble guy. But I always

594
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 8: I always told you this guy was great. I mean

595
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 8: at the time he was doing it. Fantastic man, footwork

596
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 8: was great. He used to come out. I love his

597
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 8: costumes coming out I finished fighting. I mean the guy

598
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 8: he stood for something. You know what I mean, It's uh,

599
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 8: it was crazy. So yeah, I don't have to look

600
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 8: at the fight I've seen. I remember all his fights

601
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 8: right again, then the guy that fought Jose Aldo. When

602
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 8: the guy was Jose Aldo.

603
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Speaker 6: Hey man, he did some things. We got up Floria

604
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 6: and I let's say, I won't say we for the

605
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 6: New England Patriots, but for Team Florian and I'll fucking

606
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 6: say we we got off to a good start against

607
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo. You know, I RiPP and Bong hit somewhere

608
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 6: and in Connecticut thinking we might have a shot here.

609
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 6: Just kidding. I didn't do that, but we I was

610
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 6: in Connecticut though, watching the fight. So Khabib, Normago metoff Man, right,

611
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 6: I mean, Ken Flow and I were there when he

612
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 6: made his UFC debut January twenty of twenty twelve. I'll

613
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 6: never forget it. Joe Silva was certainly high on him early.

614
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 6: Josh Gross, my former ESPN colleague, felt like he was

615
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Speaker 6: going to be a real problem. Maybe people didn't think

616
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Speaker 6: he'd be the greatest lightweight and one or one A

617
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Speaker 6: in terms of the greatest fighter of all time at

618
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Speaker 6: least right now. But what'd you think of Jabib over

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Speaker 6: the weekend?

620
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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Listen, man, I'm gonna say that I thought, you know,

622
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 8: Gaichie was gonna win the fight, you know, based on

623
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Speaker 8: his ability to scramble back up totally non existent in retrospect,

624
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Speaker 8: I mean crazy to Kenny, just non existent. I don't

625
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 8: even know what to say. I'm not even being critical

626
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 8: because I think Ah's a great fighter, but uh, man,

627
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 8: the guy, to me, one hundred percent is the POUNDFU

628
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 8: doown greatest fighter. And I'm going to tell you based

629
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Speaker 8: on a couple of things, but one is, man, anytime

630
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 8: you know what a guy is gonna do and you

631
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 8: can't stop it, that's greatness to me, man. And this

632
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Speaker 8: is it, like you know what the game plan had

633
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Speaker 8: to be. There's no mystery there. I mean like he

634
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 8: made that look easy. Like is that a d one

635
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 8: wrestler that just acquiesced to the takedowns? Or was Kad

636
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 8: be that good? Or what?

637
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Speaker 9: You know?

638
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Speaker 8: What is it? Because I'll tell you what, man, its

639
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 8: like again you know what was gonna happen, and he

640
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 8: still did it. And again I think to me, that's

641
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 8: the sign of greatness, man, and that there is no

642
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Speaker 8: question after that fight, because this is the first guy,

643
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Speaker 8: you know, who was a decorated wrestler that we got

644
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Speaker 8: to see who could bomb, you know, who can afflict

645
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 8: a lot of damage, you know what I mean? And

646
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Speaker 8: you know, people could say what they want about Aya Quinta,

647
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 8: but the more you look at that fight, you got

648
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 8: to remember he trained for a three round fight twenty

649
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 8: four hour notice, did no wrestling for that fight, and

650
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 8: for that guy five rounds. I don't care if he

651
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 8: if people think he got a beating or nut. He wasn't.

652
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 8: He wasn't close to get and submitted. I don't believe

653
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 8: he you know, I mean he was He used a

654
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 8: combination of wrestling in jiu jitsu and again accolade wise,

655
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 8: he's not at the level of Gaichee, but when he

656
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 8: combined everything together, he was not going to get submitted

657
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 8: in that fight, you know what I mean. And that's

658
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 8: a tough sob and he went the distance with a

659
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 8: guy that now even after he retirees I gotta tell

660
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 8: you he's going to hold the test of time, you know,

661
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 8: Like again, it just but I can't say enough about Kabi. Man,

662
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 8: He's just I just found Look, man, I was in

663
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 8: tears when he was when he was talking, and that

664
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 8: retirement thing came out of you know, nowhere. But you know,

665
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 8: in a time where you know there's fake news and

666
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 8: who's lying, Who's this guy's lying, this guy's lying, you

667
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 8: don't know what to believe. This to me is a

668
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 8: breath of fresh air. This is a man of integrity,

669
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 8: you know, this is a man of his word. This

670
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 8: is a man that puts family first. I don't believe

671
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 8: the Almighty Dollar is his god. He makes right. I think. Look,

672
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 8: even the interaction with d C at the end, I

673
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 8: love your brother. I mean, I don't know if that

674
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 8: doesn't make your heart stop. Ye, well you know what

675
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 8: I mean. Like in a crazy time that we all

676
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 8: black white, it doesn't matter for me. In a brief

677
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 8: couple of seconds, man, everything was good in the world.

678
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 8: I don't know. I can't say enough about the guy.

679
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 8: I think he's a great ambassador. I love the interactions

680
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 8: with him in d C. I think that's a reality

681
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 8: show that has to go. Doubt, no doubt, And again

682
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, I love those interactions man, and uh,

683
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 8: you know, like again just in a crazy time in

684
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 8: to me, it was a breath of fresh air. And uh,

685
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 8: this is a guy that is mooling high level people

686
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 8: and this is this is crazy man. So there is

687
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 8: no question in my mind this guy is, you know,

688
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 8: pound for pound, the best fighter and not that outside

689
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 8: of the the octagon you know should be included in that.

690
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 8: But you know what, I'm gonna include it because he's

691
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 8: a champion inside and outside. You know, there's no p

692
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 8: and d's. He's not beating anybody on cocaine. I think

693
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 8: this guy stands for the right ship. I don't care religion, creed, color,

694
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter. This to me was a great moment

695
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 8: in sports to me, and I know that I can't

696
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 8: I can't say enough good things about the guy and

697
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 8: what he did. And I'm glad that one of my

698
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 8: guys got to share the octagon with him and just

699
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 8: you know, have a great time. Man.

700
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: You uh, you hit on a lot of great points there.

701
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: He's the truest dude out there. Team Sarah Lano certainly

702
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 6: historic has to be very happy with that ally quick

703
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 6: to effort, and it obviously is gonna withstand the test

704
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 6: of time in terms of uh being very relevant in

705
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 6: terms of discussing the horrible historical context of Kabib's career.

706
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 6: I tell you that warm up show you're doing after

707
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 6: the fights really seems to get you in a good

708
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: place for this Antakonploran podcast. You're just fucking ripping. I mean,

709
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: are you trying to like cut your hair and get

710
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 6: on a television set? Because I can assure you that

711
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 6: maybe they'll keep some of that lettuce. We got to

712
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 6: clean it up a little. I can't even differentiate. What's

713
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 6: your sweatshirt? What's your fucking hair?

714
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 9: Oh?

715
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 6: Yes, get the scrunchy.

716
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 8: Are we gonna.

717
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 6: Scrunchy al Jo? We do scrunchy al Jo.

718
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 8: Let me tell you al Aljo's on fire Man. We

719
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 8: did the countdown special. That kid's winning that fight. Man,

720
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 8: he's looking phenomenal, phenomenal. I think it is in the

721
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 8: right spies everything. But we were gonna do a podcast

722
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 8: where we can get past this other podcast news extra rounds.

723
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 6: Yes, this would be the last time I talk. We

724
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 6: get very jealous, right, what forty seven sleeps until al

725
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 6: Jo fights Kyodor jan Love. I want to ask you

726
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 6: a question in terms of who might be next for Kabeb,

727
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 6: but before I get there, if you could give me

728
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 6: thirty seconds. I don't want to spend too much more

729
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 6: time on this. But Ken Flow sort of insinuated earlier,

730
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 6: piggybacking upon my point that Kabib has showed you only

731
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 6: one layer, right, because he doesn't need to show you

732
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 6: the whole thing, Like we haven't seen this guy get tested,

733
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 6: and so there is something sad about this, right, that

734
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: this is final. I mean d c was as sad

735
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 6: as I've seen him filling up with tears, right because

736
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 6: even Daniel thought, at least we're getting to thirty. And

737
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 6: oh and I don't know why so much. I mean

738
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 6: I do know why, but so much was put in

739
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 6: that number thirty versus twenty nine. It's like black twenty

740
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 6: nine on a roulette table. Who gives a shit? You know,

741
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 6: twenty nine or thirty, it doesn't matter, you know. So

742
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 6: But in terms of Kabib's stand up and the layers

743
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 6: to his game, you know, I just I don't know.

744
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 6: I just feel like in a kickboxing setting, I'm not

745
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 6: saying he lights the world on fire. But like, I'll

746
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: fucking bet on him, you know, hey, let so man,

747
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 6: he proved.

748
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 8: He had of chin. Gaigie did land some shots, but man,

749
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 8: I tell you that was a man possessed man. He

750
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 8: kept coming forward. I mean, Geechee was out of breadth

751
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 8: after the first round. It looked he was breathing heavy.

752
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 8: You know, he had to employ employed that game plan

753
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 8: that he did by constantly moving. But I just you know,

754
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 8: if you're training, you got to be secure that you

755
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 8: could do that for five rounds and stuff a couple

756
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 8: of takedowns. So, uh, you know, kabeeb is isn't the

757
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 8: most orthodox striker, but he's willing to engage. He's willing

758
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 8: to sit in the pocket, and uh he makes it

759
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 8: work for him man, period, that's it. He's tough and

760
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 8: he could take and he looks like he's got a

761
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 8: chin on him. Man, and and John.

762
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 9: He broke his foot a few weeks ago, is that right?

763
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was in the hospital with months three weeks ago.

764
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 6: Two months, that's what I mean.

765
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 8: It's like three years old.

766
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 6: I don't know what any of that really is.

767
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 8: Actually, I don't even know what to say to that

768
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 8: God got Google. There's no way you got that wrong.

769
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 8: You don't get mumps. At at thirty.

770
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 6: Hobby or Mandez said it was momps.

771
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 8: So I'm joking. I'm not a doctor. I'm just an

772
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 8: idiot playing one.

773
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 9: Here's the thing.

774
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 7: That's how confident, that's how confident Habibra Mugga Madoff was

775
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 7: in facing justin Gates. He's like, ah, dang, I brought

776
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 7: my foot, Ah dang, I got the months.

777
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just gonna go out and kick his ass anyway.

778
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 9: It doesn't it didn't matter. He was going to go

779
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 9: out there and win that flight.

780
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 8: No matter what I'm telling you. He looked like a

781
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 8: man possessed to me when he was going forward. I

782
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 8: don't even though if he cut the ring off like

783
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 8: that on anybody before me.

784
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 6: No, it was like, my mom doesn't want me to

785
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 6: be in here. I'm going to destroy you and go home,

786
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 6: not to hurt you.

787
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 8: And I gotta tell you, man, I love the fact

788
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 8: that he's retiring on top. I love it. I don't

789
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 8: like people sitting around just collecting the payday getting hurt.

790
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 8: This is a guy that you know, Rocky Marciano Joe

791
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 8: to mad Joe whoever you want to look at. These

792
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 8: guys went out on top. They didn't linger around long,

793
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 8: so you got, you know, to kind of ruin their

794
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 8: legacy of you know, you know, you see the guy.

795
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

796
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 9: I loved it.

797
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 8: I think everything was great about it. It's unfortunate, you know,

798
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 8: because it's selfish. We want to see the guy fight.

799
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 8: We want to see the guy. You know, I don't

800
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 8: even want to see the guy get tested because who

801
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 8: else can test him? He went through some really tough guys, man,

802
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

803
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 6: No doubt about it. There's no doubt about you.

804
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, with the exception of Ferguson. But I you know,

805
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 8: at this point, I don't even know.

806
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 6: It, certainly as I was walking from the broadcast booth

807
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 6: to go do the post fight show on ESPN Plus.

808
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 6: By the way, if you wanted to watch that instead

809
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 6: of what Rays did, I'm just kidding. Sorry, I'm not

810
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 6: even trying. You know, it's just too fucking walking up

811
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 6: the stairs at the postfight show, and I'm thinking.

812
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 8: You were thinking around when you were going up there.

813
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 6: Thinking like, I'm never going to see Tony Ferguson fight.

814
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 6: Could be even her maga matop. I'm thinking and that's

815
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: sad to me, you know. And I also think too, like,

816
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 6: imagine if we saw Kabib get tested. And I say

817
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 6: that with all due respect to his competition, but imagine

818
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 6: seeing him bloodied or battered. Ray someone said today he

819
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 6: never even committed a foul at his UFC career. It's unbelievable,

820
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 6: but it is the thing.

821
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 7: It's hilarious when the one thing we can everyone tries to,

822
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 7: you know, point at when they're bringing up a Habib

823
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 7: a manga meta fight, is that one time he kind

824
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 7: of got clipped together rebends like I think he was hurt.

825
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 9: Man, I don't know, but I'm not sure.

826
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 7: Like that's the one thing you can point you and

827
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 7: twenty nine professional fight.

828
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 6: Right thing? Or Ray his close fight against Glayson Tibau

829
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: early in his career or whatever. So Ray, let me

830
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 6: ask you this question, all right. So we did a

831
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 6: pole question trying to figure out which fight the UFC

832
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 6: is going to make next for this now vacant UFC

833
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 6: lightweight title. Uh And there weren't enough choices on the

834
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 6: pole question. So, in the nature of not going down

835
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 6: that rabbit hole, I wrote on Twitter, perhaps I should

836
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: have put it like this. You can pick just one fighter,

837
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 6: Ray who must be a part of the vacant UFC

838
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 6: lightweight title fight. So I'll give you six guys and

839
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 6: you're starting to make the fight with one guy Dustin Poorier,

840
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 6: Connor McGregor, Tony Ferguson, Justin Gatchee, Charles Olivera, Michael Chandler.

841
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 6: Who is who is half of your equation for this

842
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 6: vacant lightweight title?

843
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 8: Oh? I mean what you would want to see? I

844
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 8: mean they already have fights made it.

845
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 6: We talk in reality and meritocracy. Who is the most

846
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 6: deserving lightweight to fight for the vacant Wait?

847
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 8: What did you say?

848
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 6: A meritocracy?

849
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 8: God bless you? I said, what is he doing? Cody

850
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 8: helped me out? Can you what? AMERI what is that ameriocracy?

851
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 6: Meritocracy? I think you know what a meritocracy is. Al

852
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 6: Jamaine Sterling, right on the merits of his body of work,

853
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 6: is unquestionably the number one contender right now, and as

854
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: such he's getting a title fight. So for me, Dustin

855
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: Poorier is the hardest guy to make a case against

856
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 6: Ken Flow. Right He's coming off a lightweight main event

857
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 6: win against Dan Hooker, that was had the round of

858
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 6: the year, one of the fights of the year, right

859
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 6: against a guy who was cannonball coming. You know, it's

860
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 6: the highest quality lightweight win out there. And obviously he's

861
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 6: a recent interim champion who lost to Habib, so for me,

862
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 6: and you know, I don't know if he has the

863
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 6: win over Gage, right, So that's that, you know, But again,

864
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 6: trying to make a case against Poorier, I can't. I

865
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 6: can make a case against almost anybody else, hard to

866
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 6: make a case against some of.

867
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 8: These based on that, I agree with you, Ken, Phil, what.

868
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 6: Do you think about that? Like, who's the guy of

869
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 6: those six that that you think is most deserving?

870
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 7: So I think I think a McGregor fight makes the

871
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 7: most sense, and you know, listen, I think it makes

872
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 7: the most business sense. But I also think, you know,

873
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 7: based on merit, I think that's a fight that makes sense.

874
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 7: You look at how Connor did against now the context

875
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 7: of this fight with geigee, how Connor did against Habib.

876
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 7: I think, you know, he still had a really solid

877
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 7: performance a guy who's a former champion.

878
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 9: So I think that's a fight they have to reap.

879
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 9: You know, they fought before with Connor.

880
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 7: Of course, beating him at one hundred and forty five

881
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 7: pounds really quickly with a knockout. I think Pooria is

882
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 7: a different guy. Both really have big names in the

883
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 7: game right now. I think that's the fight they've been

884
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 7: talking about it. It's it's perfect.

885
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 8: Here's what I'd like to see, all right, So they

886
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 8: have Poori a McGregor and I don't think I'm not

887
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 8: saying this is right, but this is what I think

888
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 8: I would like to see Do the Dustin against McGregor

889
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 8: and Do Chandler against gae Chee in a tournament. Yeah,

890
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 8: and the winners fight each other. I think that's that

891
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 8: would be exciting as hell, and that would be Those

892
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 8: are two great Those are two great matchups. Put him

893
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 8: on the same night. I think it's a huge draw.

894
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 8: The winners fight each other. The only floor with that

895
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 8: is that, you know, again Ferguson gets absolutely fucked over again,

896
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. But his last fight, I

897
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 8: thought he took some tremendous damage. I didn't like the

898
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 8: way his legs look. I hope he's all right with that.

899
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 8: But I think Channeler Gaegee is exciting as hell. And

900
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 8: I think you know, McGregor and Poorie is going to

901
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 8: be a great fight. Let that be a tournament man

902
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 8: put it on the same night three months later to

903
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 8: win his fight each other. I think you got yourself's

904
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 8: a home run. I like that.

905
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: So I spent a lot of time with Michael Chandler

906
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 6: this weekend. I do think that there are a lot

907
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 6: of possibilities in front of him. I think he would

908
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 6: have some interest in maybe doing the Ultimate Fighter. He

909
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 6: certainly has an appetite for the Gay Chee fight. He

910
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 6: wants the Ferguson fight. But yeah, I mean most of

911
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 6: the fans obviously want Poory A. McGregor to The fight

912
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: has alread booked for January twenty third, as long as

913
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 6: we wanted it to happen at one hundred and fifty

914
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 6: five pounds anyway, because it's just more relevant and far

915
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 6: more interesting, I believe, and a lot of us want

916
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 6: to see McGregor build his lightweight legacy. Right He's only

917
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 6: competed a couple of times, has one lightweight win. Granted

918
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 6: it was for the title, but so I think that's

919
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 6: probably the fight that they will do at one hundred

920
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 6: and fifty five pounds for the vacant title. But the

921
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 6: case against Connor really is that the Serony fight was

922
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 6: at set because if that fight was at fifty five, Kenny,

923
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 6: I just watched that fight back on the plane, you know,

924
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 6: with the shoulder strikes and the head kick at everything else.

925
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: I mean, you see Seroni in there with Nico Price,

926
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 6: and you know, like Connor McGregor is just so good man,

927
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 6: Like he really is so good. And if that win

928
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 6: was at fifty five, then this would be a very

929
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 6: short conversation based upon Ferguson's last fight.

930
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I couldn't agree more, you know, fortunately and unfortunately.

931
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 7: You know, Connor's biggest strength is also his biggest weakness,

932
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 7: and it's that, you know, because he speaks so loud,

933
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 7: so loudly wherever he goes, and you know, knows how

934
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 7: to hype fight. Your focus is on that and you

935
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 7: kind of forget that this dude is a phenomenal fighter

936
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 7: as well.

937
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: So Ray in terms of Tony Ferguson, I'm glad you

938
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 6: you know, use the words fucked over right, because I

939
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 6: believe that his double digit winning streak the first guy

940
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 6: Kenny aet one hundred and fifty five pounds to put

941
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 6: ten or more lightweight wins on paper is the most

942
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 6: criminally underappreciated streak in the history of the sport. He's

943
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 6: a first ballot Hall of Famer. It's miraculous and the

944
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: worst miracle ever that he's never fought for the undisputed

945
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 6: UFC lightweight title. So this, in theory, gives you the

946
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 6: opportunity to finally put Tony up. I absolutely love the guy,

947
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 6: right anybody who's listening to this show, ken Fill, I mean, like,

948
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 6: you know, got all the tools in the world, but

949
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 6: you know the case against right now, that last fight

950
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 6: is really a hard thing for a lot of people

951
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 6: to overcome, you know how it was just brutal, and

952
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 6: I think if anybody physically can overcome that challenge, it's him.

953
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: Obviously he's dancing in the hospital, you know. But like,

954
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just if you do Ferguson, it

955
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 6: eliminates Gateche as a head to head win over him,

956
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 6: as Ken Flow said in our print fight meet and.

957
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 8: Think, So what do you do?

958
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you do with Tony.

959
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 8: Unless you do Chandler Ferguson right away? And then you

960
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 8: you know, the winner of that fights Gechee again. Period.

961
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 8: You know, maybe it's a different fight now. But uh, again,

962
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 8: here's the problem with with not the problem with Ferguson,

963
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 8: but as a as a as a manager. Should he

964
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 8: have taken that fight? Should he have waited for? Really

965
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 8: what what he earned?

966
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 9: Man?

967
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 8: That's where it gets crazy, man, you know, to me

968
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 8: and know Kenny, that's where he had the eleven fight Winterring,

969
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 8: Like you say, it goes. I think that's phenomenal what

970
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 8: he was able to accomplish against really good guys. And

971
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 8: that's where it gets tricky. Man. Was it worth taking

972
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 8: that shot?

973
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 9: You know?

974
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 8: And again an interim title, I think gay Chie was

975
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 8: one hundred percent right. I'll wait for the real one. Now.

976
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 8: That doesn't mean anything to anybody.

977
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, that you bring up a good point now, because Okay.

978
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 7: If Ferguson went out there and took that fight, essentially

979
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 7: doing a favor for the UFC in some ways, you know,

980
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 7: are they going to repay them now and kind of

981
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 7: put him back into the picture and give him what

982
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 7: he wants?

983
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 9: You know?

984
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 7: I don't know, And we forget how great of a

985
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 7: streak that was with Ferguson, But in this game, one

986
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 7: fight can.

987
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 9: Change the whole thing. Yeah, it's it's very unfortunate but

988
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 9: it's very true.

989
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just think with that type of wind streak man,

990
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 8: how the man that guy should have fought for the

991
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 8: real title one time. I mean, and I'll tell you what,

992
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 8: I'm not sure it's ever gonna happen now, And that's

993
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 8: really kind of a shitty story.

994
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 6: So here's the thing. Okay, if this were the NFL, right,

995
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: they would. It's a tricky thing because it's it's there's

996
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: what is the subjectivity? Kenny? Is that the right word, right?

997
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 6: Subjectivity or objective? Whatever the hell it is. Charles Olivera, Right,

998
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 6: like it's the National Football League. Charles Olivera is getting

999
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 6: the title shot. He that's seven fucking consecutive lightweight wins. Right,

1000
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 6: did you guys bring up Charles oliver on your postfight show? Right?

1001
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 8: No extra rounds?

1002
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 6: We didn't discuss that, but Kenny, you see what I'm

1003
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 6: saying though, Like, that's the thing. So for Michael Chandler, Okay,

1004
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: Michael Chandler a long standing friend of mine. He's zero

1005
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 6: and zero in the UFC ray right, So anybody tries

1006
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 6: to make a case against Michael Chandler, all you have

1007
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 6: to look at is the fact that he's never fought

1008
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 6: in the UFC, and I do believe, respectfully to my friend,

1009
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 6: there are more credentialed UFC lightweights and Chandler doesn't care.

1010
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 6: He'll do whatever you want me to do. But the

1011
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 6: point is is that Kenny he can make the walk

1012
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 6: in eight weeks. He's ready to go, right, and because

1013
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 6: he's making his debut and because he kind of needs

1014
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 6: to be a company guy in some respects, he's literally

1015
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 6: essentially told Dana that he's ready to go, so he

1016
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 6: has that working for him. But Charles o'lavera, man, you know,

1017
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 6: I mean, right, what are we doing that?

1018
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 8: Then that's what you're doing. Will was again you put

1019
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 8: o'lavera against Chandler, and you make those other fights like

1020
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 8: we said.

1021
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 6: Well, right, there's a lot of options. I mean, I

1022
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 6: think for the UFC, they just want the belt on

1023
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 6: the line as soon as possible. You saw what they

1024
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 6: do with Sahudo. That belt was online before you know it. Yeah,

1025
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 6: Kenlo go ahead on Charles Olivera, the most decorated submission

1026
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 6: army in the UFC.

1027
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 8: Oh, I think he's starting to hit his try good takes.

1028
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 9: Just con.

1029
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 7: I'll say this, I think Olivera is you know, deserves

1030
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 7: a higher ranked opponent right now.

1031
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 10: I don't.

1032
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 7: He has awesome wins, and he's been doing it by

1033
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 7: submission and doing it in a dominant fashion. He just

1034
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: he doesn't have the same kind of scalps as the

1035
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 7: other guys and doesn't have been kind of experience.

1036
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 9: So I will say that's why I think he's overlooked.

1037
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 9: But there's no doubt what he's accomplished at one fifty.

1038
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 6: Five is aggressive right now, right, of course, But it's

1039
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 6: interesting that his name sort of peeked into the conversation.

1040
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 6: And my buddy Paul Felder does not listen to the

1041
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 6: Anakin Florin podcast, and I absolutely love the guy. He's

1042
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 6: training for a triathlon March fourteenth in Miami, but he

1043
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 6: didn't expect Kabib Hermongo Matov to retire, right, So, if

1044
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 6: you're Drew Dober, I think, who's maybe ranked between ten

1045
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 6: and fifteen, He's always wanted to fight Kabibe, and I

1046
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 6: think it's really disappointing for some of these lightweights when

1047
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 6: they finally feel like they're about to make a run

1048
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 6: that that I know, well yeah, but no, no, but no,

1049
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 6: of course, what what I was getting at is that

1050
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 6: everybody above Drew Dober is like, this is unbelievable. Right,

1051
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 6: imagine me in Mychael Chandler and again we had this

1052
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 6: conversation in the airport loungere But imagine being Michael Chandler. Right,

1053
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 6: you get flown over there. You're now a part of

1054
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 6: the most one of the most amazing nights in the

1055
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 6: UFC history. You're part of that narrative. Uh oh. And now,

1056
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 6: by the way, they need two guys to fight for

1057
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 6: the vacant undisputed belt, no interim or otherwise, Like it's

1058
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 6: it's an Chandler couldn't stop smiling, you know.

1059
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 8: And I think, look, anybody who knows chaml I said

1060
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 8: this forever, that that's one of the nicest dudes you're

1061
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 8: gonna meet. I just he's another great guy. I think

1062
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 8: he's great for the UFC. He's always good for the sport.

1063
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I don't know. They just got to start

1064
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 8: making the fights now. Oh oh, get over here, get

1065
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 8: over here. Who we got?

1066
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: Who we got?

1067
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 9: Look at this guy?

1068
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 8: This is the next bantam weight.

1069
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 6: No, no, look at this, I mean, can we please.

1070
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 10: What's up, Joe?

1071
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 8: This guy's on fire?

1072
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 6: John, unbelievable rageous, guaranteed victory, no pressure ault.

1073
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 9: Joe.

1074
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 6: I loved you, Betty. It's great to see you.

1075
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 8: You see you guys all right out of this guy.

1076
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, his head's in the right spot. I

1077
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 8: think everything's coming together at the exact right time.

1078
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 6: Man, I just think he needed was the shot. Baby.

1079
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 9: You know.

1080
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 8: And I will say this in front of him. Anak

1081
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 8: has had you back like forever, I know, like I'm saying.

1082
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 8: Even at the beginning, I was, he would tell me

1083
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 8: and I wouldn't even say anything like I wasn't like,

1084
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 8: you know right, and he would be just keep going.

1085
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 8: But now I'm on, I'm with you, John.

1086
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 6: I maybe I should have been a talent scout. Maybe

1087
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 6: I should have been a talent.

1088
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 8: Oh sure.

1089
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 6: For the show now, Joe, just for the sake of

1090
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 6: the podcast, just to mix it up for neutrality.

1091
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 9: He thought that didn't go well for me.

1092
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what, man, I had. I did

1093
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 8: an interview Forrest Griffin. We had on extra rounds. Excuse me,

1094
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 8: sorry about blurting that out. Just came out. But what

1095
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 8: a funny thing, uh TJ asked them to make a prediction.

1096
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 8: He goes, I won't do that because years ago Yah

1097
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 8: Favor picked against him and he still hasn't talked to him,

1098
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 8: so he still holds and this was the problem. This

1099
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 8: is all in good fun. I don't you know, put

1100
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 8: you on the spot. You know, John u f You know,

1101
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 8: see Kenny could pick saying that he might never see

1102
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 8: Al Joe. It doesn't matter, guys, by meeting the jiu

1103
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 8: jitsu towing him.

1104
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 6: Very exciting stuff. And now I pause that. Uh, in

1105
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 6: the next forty seven days, we will have Aljamaine Sterling

1106
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 6: in that seat with Ray. I'd love to have you

1107
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 6: guys do it.

1108
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 8: I really like again speaking Al do I think you know,

1109
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 8: even the loss to Marais, I think he grew from that.

1110
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 8: I don't think we'll see that happen again. And I'm

1111
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 8: telling you his heads really anyway that fight goes, I'm

1112
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 8: telling he's going to be ready.

1113
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 6: And this longer central right now. With that, I mean,

1114
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 6: you got to get on YouTube, right It's like, I

1115
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 6: don't want our audio audience to be short changed. But

1116
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 6: you were the star of the fucking show. Look at you.

1117
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 8: We did the countdown special the other day. I was

1118
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 8: clapping at the end. I was like, this is phenomenal.

1119
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 8: He really looking good. And I'm telling you everything happens

1120
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 8: for a reason. This is the perfect time. It really is.

1121
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 6: Well, I'm excited to see you in December. I got

1122
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 6: two daughters, I got plenty of hair ties. I'll bring

1123
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 6: some for you.

1124
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't like this.

1125
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 8: I don't even like my hair anymore. Just well, No,

1126
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 8: it's to find a COVID free haircut, and it's not

1127
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 8: easy to do around you.

1128
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 6: The reason I shave my head is because it makes

1129
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 6: my fat face look thinner. You look like you don't

1130
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 6: get a haircut for a year. You look like a

1131
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 6: million dollars.

1132
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 8: If you want this has to be eight months at this.

1133
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 6: At least you can almost put it in a ponytail. Well,

1134
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 6: I don't know if you have anything. Uh, I don't

1135
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 6: know if you have anything else for us, But we've

1136
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 6: taken enough of your time and we appreciate you greatly.

1137
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 6: I think so unless you got something.

1138
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 8: Else, do you want to talk about the podcast they

1139
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 8: do after the fights? I don't know. Maybe maybe extra

1140
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 8: round maybe maybe not, maybe extra rounds.

1141
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 6: I think it's toasted by my buddy TJ. DeSantis. Where

1142
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 6: can people watch this if they don't want to watch out.

1143
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 6: If they don't want to watch, watch the post fight show.

1144
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 8: They tell eighteen million views after the fight, So you

1145
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 8: don't even have to tell people that's right.

1146
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 6: They're already let's fight. If you want to know, it's

1147
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 6: UFC fight passed.

1148
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 10: I'm not done yet.

1149
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 8: Wait a minute, what else? Listen, I'm leaving for Philadelphia Wednesday.

1150
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 8: We have James Gonzalez fighting the main event at CFFC,

1151
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 8: and then the following night we have Pumi Nakuda, who's

1152
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 8: you know, one of Morob's training parts by the only

1153
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 8: guy that could keep up with the machine. This is

1154
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 8: the machine behind the machine. So very excited for these

1155
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 8: two guys up and comers. And uh, I think James

1156
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 8: gets a win here, Gonzalez gets a win. J Kenny

1157
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 8: again a guy with sick mma jiu jitsu. You saw

1158
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 8: what he did in that last fight when he mangled

1159
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 8: that poor kids arm. Luckily he's alright though. It's all good.

1160
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 8: But yeah, these are two good guys that I think

1161
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 8: we'll see in the UFC shortly.

1162
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 6: All right, my man, Well, I said in our pre

1163
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 6: show meeting, like I could spend ten minutes on my

1164
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 6: random Everick. I mean, I feel like there's so many

1165
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 6: different layers and things we could talk about, but in

1166
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 6: the nature of time where we're gonna let you go

1167
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 6: and we'll talk to you next week. I think I'm

1168
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 6: gonna do a shoey on the show next week. I'm

1169
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 6: not prepared to do one today because I literally walked

1170
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 6: in the door to do the podcast.

1171
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 8: You know what better than doing a pooie?

1172
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 6: I don't I don't follow, you'll follow. Okay, what do

1173
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 6: you think about Tom Jewey Vatsa doing these shoeies? Ray

1174
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 6: before we before we got to him.

1175
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 8: I mean you obviously you know the guy. I mean,

1176
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 8: what energy that guy has. I'm happy he got to win.

1177
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 8: He's just a nice guy, always friendly, always entertaining, always

1178
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 8: you know, will good laugh. I love those Australian guys

1179
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 8: are great. I love Australian man.

1180
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 6: I feel like amazing people.

1181
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 9: I feel like it's.

1182
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 8: A home away from home. Like they're just great people. Man.

1183
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 8: I love going there.

1184
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 6: Well, I know I joke about you being a superstar

1185
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 6: and with respect. I know when you walk down the

1186
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 6: street in New York City, you're not getting stopped autographs.

1187
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 6: But if Ray Longo goes Australia. I'm telling you, folks,

1188
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 6: they can't think I can't go anywhere.

1189
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 8: They might be the best fans in the world.

1190
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 6: See you know right, I'm telling you look true the

1191
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 6: truth Like the truth hurts sometimes, right, the truth hurts

1192
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 6: that Ray has to go all the way to Australia

1193
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 6: to be an.

1194
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 8: Well, let's go down the street in Manhattan someday and

1195
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 8: we'll check it out.

1196
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: I know, right after the Harry connic rub or whatever.

1197
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 8: Even last Jimmy Crewe, what a great guy, great win

1198
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 8: for him. That's off to Jimmy Crewe, know the great guy.

1199
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 8: What a slip and rip that was Kenny, right over

1200
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 8: the top, beautiful bang boom sang.

1201
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 6: I love you. You elevate the whole program. I want

1202
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 6: to go all right, then, let me say this real quickly.

1203
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 6: I was going to say this right when you got off,

1204
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 6: just because if you're curious, right, Christally on longer?

1205
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 8: Will that mean Ian doesn't get on?

1206
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 6: We have shortened his segment a little bit. But let's uh,

1207
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 6: let's not upset the duck because.

1208
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 8: He's I know, Kenny. Kenny's dying to do his bets

1209
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 8: with him.

1210
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: So the shoey right. Yeah, So I consulted with Assie's

1211
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 6: UFC veteran Damian Brown. You don't have to spit in

1212
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 6: it to have it count as a shoey. You don't

1213
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 6: have to pass the sneaker around the room and have

1214
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 6: the milk boys all spit in it to have it

1215
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 6: qualify as a shoey. So next week on the program,

1216
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 6: and you know, like I guess I said on television

1217
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 6: that DC could spit in the shoey that I would do.

1218
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 6: I don't remember that, but if that's what people want

1219
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 6: me to do, I would do that. But next week

1220
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 6: on the program, I'm gonna grab a shoe, not a

1221
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 6: new one, a poor beer, and I will drink it

1222
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 6: for our audience. And if that's not good enough in

1223
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 6: a COVID nineteen climate, with no spit in my shoey,

1224
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 6: and I don't know what to tell you, that's what

1225
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna sayer.

1226
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 9: Beer kills everything.

1227
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, in America. In America, you don't have to spit

1228
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 8: in it. The shoey is just dumped the beer in

1229
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 8: there in your shoe, put your foot in there, squish

1230
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 8: it around barefoot, and then you drink it.

1231
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1232
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 8: Is that goods?

1233
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 6: So all right, buddy, did you guys talk about Lauren

1234
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 6: Murphy in Mirando Maverick the Flyweights on Extra Rounds? I

1235
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: bet you guys. You guys went late into the night.

1236
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 6: I mean, this is like, I mean, it was a

1237
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 6: lot of content here. That's a lot of fucking content.

1238
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 6: Parker is going to be so pissed. But I'm telling

1239
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 6: you right now, Ken Flow, I don't know if you

1240
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 6: saw random Maverick because it was on ESPN Plus early

1241
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 6: in the night. I am telling you right now, with

1242
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: respect to Lauren Murphy, who has won four in a row,

1243
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 6: who absolutely deserves a title fight right now. Right Mirando

1244
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 6: Maverick very well could be a top five, top four,

1245
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 6: top three flyweight in the world. Right now, I'm telling you,

1246
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 6: did you see what she did to Leanna Jojuis knows

1247
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 6: right like she's just getting started. I'm telling you liked me, Bro,

1248
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: I'm telling you raight, this is not promotional hyperbole. I'm

1249
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 6: telling you top five. She made her UFC debut. She

1250
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 6: was born in nineteen ninety seven. She's studying for her PhD.

1251
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 6: She was cutting weight while working as a teacher assistant

1252
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 6: on Zoom and then she went out and did that

1253
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 6: she's violent, She's super well versed on the ground. I

1254
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 6: believe jiu jitsu was her first martial art. But I'm

1255
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 6: a little tired right now. I'm telling you. I'm telling

1256
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 6: you she made her debut and I there are there

1257
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 6: are not a lot of women in that division that

1258
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 6: that uh that could beater Jennifer. I is gonna fight Chepchanko.

1259
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 6: Lauren Murphy, I think is the obvious next. But man

1260
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 6: like chips to the center of the table. I'm a

1261
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: random everick. I'm telling you future UFC champion.

1262
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 8: Tell you just as high on Mirandre as you will

1263
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 8: with Al Joe.

1264
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, We'll see. Maybe I have a

1265
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 6: future in uh in the scouting business. Up.

1266
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 8: Do you mind if I bring that up on extra rounds?

1267
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 6: Absolutely? But at this point I really do need to

1268
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 6: let you go with that seventh plug. Okay, I love

1269
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 6: you though.

1270
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 8: There is man good show.

1271
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 6: I try not to uh to pump up our podcast.

1272
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 6: But if you didn't enjoy the ring today.

1273
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 11: And flow I heard them moving back east, I am

1274
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 11: I am good for you, Yes, sir, another person left

1275
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 11: the Oh yeah, like just win for you?

1276
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 5: Right?

1277
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 6: Mayt this guy back to these coasts. You got it right, right,

1278
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 6: you gotta go.

1279
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 8: I take it easy, guys, it.

1280
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm telling you though Ian Parker gets super sensitive.

1281
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 6: He really does notice how kem flow too. When you

1282
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 6: bring up the East coast again, you're not getting information here,

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Speaker 6: All right, we now welcome in the Duck Ian Parker.

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Speaker 6: It's nice to see you. Ian. You just sort of

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Speaker 6: warned me off the air to like not haze you today.

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Speaker 6: Is that what that was? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna start off with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well I saw, I saw the lookie gave

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Speaker 3: me right out the gate exactly.

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Speaker 10: What it is. I'm making a statement though, and we're

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Speaker 10: just gonna go with that.

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Speaker 6: So my twin brother Jason Anak hosts remember the show

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Speaker 6: with Balah Muhammad every Thursday on the Anaki Florian Podcast YouTube. Right,

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Speaker 6: and I lost my train of thought a little bit

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Speaker 6: there with your duck shirt is one of those in

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Speaker 6: the mail for me.

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Speaker 10: I'll be hand delivered this week. You just let me

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Speaker 10: know what so for you?

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Speaker 6: So you got your own shirts? Can you sit up

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Speaker 6: a little bit? That's amazing? Is the podcast logo on

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Speaker 6: the back or is this just oh yeah, my good,

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Speaker 6: that's great. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: It's where the tramps be, that's where the circle listen.

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Speaker 6: I'm just believable. Listen.

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Speaker 10: I just made this for me.

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Speaker 3: I felt like branding wise, you know, it's just you

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Speaker 3: know what I think the duck deserved, you know, his

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Speaker 3: own shirt, and it's not being sold.

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Speaker 10: It's not being sold anywhere. You know. I'm not not

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Speaker 10: setting up a site.

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not gonna not give you and Kenny

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Speaker 3: your royalty checks.

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Speaker 10: You know. It's uh, we know. I'm a team player.

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Speaker 3: So this is more of like, hey, he looks like

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Speaker 3: an asshole or the duck shirt is kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: But La Mohammad I showed him. He said he loved it.

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Speaker 3: He wants one, so yeah, but he didn't say he'd

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Speaker 3: paid for one.

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Speaker 10: He just said he wanted one.

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Speaker 6: So that's you know, So I remember what I was

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Speaker 6: going to say about my brother, right, So like if

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Speaker 6: we were to do a podcast together, he and I

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Speaker 6: we would go at it, right like we would just

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it would be good content. And

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Speaker 6: you and I have a little bit of a brotherly relationship, right,

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Speaker 6: so I don't get to talk to all that often,

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Speaker 6: so you come on and so I naturally go down

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Speaker 6: that path. Right, So I want to bust your balls

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Speaker 6: and say we have these duck t shirts. Right, but

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Speaker 6: but we're not third party tracked. We're not giving the

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Speaker 6: audience your best bet. So before we get to the picks,

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Speaker 6: I want to know what the best bet is for

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Speaker 6: our audience on Halloween, like who are we betting on?

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Speaker 6: Or post it on the Anikin Flooring podcast channel, like

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Speaker 6: your best bet and it has to be like minus

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Speaker 6: one fifty or lower. Okay, yeah, I'm starting this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to really give that when

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Speaker 3: Kenny's already giving me a look because he's ahead.

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Speaker 10: This week, you know, but he's not. I will tell

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Speaker 10: you no, I know, I know I got the whitaker.

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Speaker 10: That decision was big. Look, I think right now, right

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Speaker 10: out the gate and this.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna we'll get into this, but I think a

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Speaker 3: Greg Hardy, you're Ryah Hall type of parlay is something

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Speaker 3: with maybe a couple other there is looking a little

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Speaker 3: appetizing at the moment, but I don't want to ruin

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Speaker 3: the breakdown.

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Speaker 10: And I'm really curious why Kenny's already given me that

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 10: uh that look before I even said any things.

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Speaker 3: He's like assuming I was gonna And I've been working

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Speaker 3: on my pronunciations.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to get rip by every person on

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Speaker 10: this video. Uh yeah, so this is starting off. This

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Speaker 10: is a really good start so far.

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Speaker 6: I'm really I think it is a go so far.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited. Well, it was a pretty good week for

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Speaker 6: you guys. You tied six to six, so it's one

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Speaker 6: thirty three to one thirty three. You were both above

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Speaker 6: five hundred, which is good. You know, hasn't been the

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Speaker 6: best month if I'm being candid. Uh So we got

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Speaker 6: UFC fighting at Hall versus Silva.

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Speaker 9: Didn't he so you got the Whitaker decision.

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Speaker 6: So it's so funny because I usually am very detailed

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Speaker 6: about this. I scored it and then tossed it in

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Speaker 6: my hotel room. But yeah, you guys tied six to six.

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Speaker 6: But we can chase that history for you Ken Flow

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Speaker 6: after the show and we'll update the standings accordingly. But

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Speaker 6: big picture, guys, this is one of eight remaining live

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Speaker 6: events for the UFC this year. So we're coming down

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Speaker 6: the stretch and we're tied and and it's very exciting

1396
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Speaker 6: this conclusion to the twenty twenty main event Challenge. First

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Speaker 6: fight gonna be at lightweight guys. Bobby green minus two seventy.

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Speaker 6: He's been a lot of pick 'em type fights taking

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Speaker 6: on Thiago moys S plus two ten. How about Bobby

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Speaker 6: King Greeney and wins in June, August, September could go

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Speaker 6: four to zero in twenty twenty. Here on the other side,

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Speaker 6: he got Thiago Moyses trains under pahoopa American Top Team

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Speaker 6: submitt to Michael Johnson with an achilles lock back in May,

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Speaker 6: and now we'll see if he can cool off the

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 6: white hot Bobby Greeney And talk to me, man, what

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Speaker 6: do you think big price on green.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, out a betting standpoint, it's a hard straight pick.

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Speaker 3: I think another guy you could toss into parlay with

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Speaker 3: some other heavy favorites.

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Speaker 10: For sure. I like Bobby green here, and I kind.

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Speaker 3: Of feel like an idiot that I picked Clay Gwena,

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Speaker 3: even though with the smaller cage. Kenny I both agreed

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Speaker 3: that the wrestling maybe would have worked for Clay.

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Speaker 10: But Bobby Green's showing us something here.

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Speaker 3: He's serious and he's fighting a lot often smart. That

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Speaker 3: takedown defense is going to be key here, very very key.

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Speaker 3: If this fight stays, he wins, no question. You know

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: the fight against Michael Johnson. Johnson won that round pretty clearly,

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01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: and then within seconds he grabbed hold of that.

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Speaker 10: Ankle and it was done.

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Speaker 3: I think Bobby Green has got phenomenal takedown defense and

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Speaker 3: I am definitely going with.

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Speaker 10: The king here.

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Speaker 6: When do you think the last time Bobby Green was

1425
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Speaker 6: submitted two thousand and nine Ken flow good jiu jitsu

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Speaker 6: on the other side of Thiago Moyses. But when I

1427
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Speaker 6: read like IBJJF gold medalists back in the day, I'm

1428
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Speaker 6: not exactly sure what level or what exactly that means.

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Speaker 6: But he's a credential guy. I know Pohoopa believes in him.

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Speaker 6: I was surprised to see just how big this price was,

1431
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Speaker 6: but given Green's current momentum, maybe I shouldn't be. What

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Speaker 6: do you think about this fight on the main.

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Speaker 9: Cart you know?

1434
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Speaker 7: To me to get back to your earlier question about

1435
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Speaker 7: you know, is a gold medal in port and all

1436
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Speaker 7: that stuff? I think you know it's less about the

1437
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Speaker 7: medals and more about how they went about their wins.

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Speaker 7: Are they submission oriented guys? Or did they win a

1439
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Speaker 7: gold medal by you know, holding someone and not moving

1440
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Speaker 7: the whole time and winning by advantage? But anyways, I

1441
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Speaker 7: think that Bobby Green hasn't been submitted in a while.

1442
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Speaker 7: I think it's possible, certainly against someone like this. This

1443
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 7: is a guy who actually I think he was in

1444
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 7: on a single and dropped down to guard and immediately

1445
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 7: went into that foot lock.

1446
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Speaker 9: He could potentially try to do that against Bobby Green.

1447
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 9: I could see him pulling that off against someone like

1448
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Speaker 9: Bobby who's, you know, a decent wrestler, but not great

1449
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Speaker 9: on the ground.

1450
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Speaker 7: Necessarily, I think that Bobby Green should have the advantage here.

1451
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Speaker 7: I don't think it's as clear cut as Ian saying

1452
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 7: it is. I think Bobby can certainly win by knockout,

1453
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 7: but I see him probably winning by decision.

1454
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Speaker 9: Let's go Bobby Green by decision, all.

1455
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 6: Right, both guys like Bobby Green. We move on to

1456
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 6: the heavyweights. Greg Hardy minus three point fifteen, the crochet Boss,

1457
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Speaker 6: Mary's Green plus two forty five. God damn, it is

1458
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 6: that fun to say so Hardy got past Jorgan to

1459
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 6: castro Ken Flow. It was on points back in May,

1460
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 6: his third UFC win Mory's Green, remember sort of memorably

1461
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 6: rallied to submit John Bealante back in June. But he's

1462
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 6: a plus two fifty underdog or so here Ken Flow.

1463
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Speaker 6: Why don't you lead us off? You know, Ian obviously

1464
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 6: likes Greg Hardy. You'll pay a price if you're betting

1465
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 6: him straight. What do you think about this?

1466
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 9: Geez? This is an interesting fight.

1467
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 7: Obviously, when you get two headweights in there throwing down,

1468
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 7: there's a lot that can happen. I think Greg Hardy

1469
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 7: has certainly improved as a fighter. I actually, in a

1470
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Speaker 7: weird way think that you know, in the third round

1471
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Speaker 7: he actually might have the advantage in some ways as

1472
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Speaker 7: far as conditioning. He really has paced himself a lot

1473
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 7: better and has gained a lot of composure with his

1474
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 7: experience that he's had in the UFC. Thus far, I

1475
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 7: do think the Crochet Boss is the better striker. I

1476
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 7: think he's gonna be more technical, He's got I think

1477
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 7: better skills on the feet. If he can keep Hardy

1478
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 7: on the outside, I think he could potentially outpoint him.

1479
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 9: But this is tough.

1480
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 6: It is. It's tricky. It's you know why it's tricky

1481
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 6: because in our scoring system at this stage of the year,

1482
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 6: when you get three points for picking Mary Screen and

1483
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 6: you get one for picking Hardy, it makes you inclined

1484
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 6: to take a few chances, you know. But you could

1485
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 6: certainly give a pick now and change it later if

1486
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 6: you so do.

1487
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 9: Let's go.

1488
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 6: Let's all right, Ken Flo likes the crochet boss Mary

1489
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 6: Screen plus two forty five. Ian, you were sort of

1490
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 6: talking about building a best bet for our audience around

1491
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,480
Speaker 6: Greg Hardy, So why do you like him in the spot?

1492
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: I mean, he's fought a better level of competition and

1493
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 3: he has shown I think improvements.

1494
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 10: I'm really staying away from that evolution.

1495
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: Ward.

1496
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 10: I really don't want to pay to punch me through

1497
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 10: the screen. I see, I listen.

1498
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 3: He has definitely improved the fight against Bolkov, against Yorgan

1499
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: the Castro, you know.

1500
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 10: And Kenny, I think the best point you made for

1501
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 10: Greg Hardy.

1502
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 3: We've seen great conditioning out of him, you know, and

1503
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: we haven't seen a guy who's impatient.

1504
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 9: You know.

1505
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 10: We went from a guy.

1506
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: That was knocking people out in five seconds on the

1507
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: Contender series to a guy who's gone three rounds in

1508
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 3: three rounds, and he.

1509
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 10: Went the full distance of Bolkov. He did it with

1510
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 10: the castro.

1511
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: And we're talking about a guy in the Crocheted Boss

1512
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: phenomenal nickname, and I love his team behind him, but dude,

1513
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't even know if he is. This

1514
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 3: is so far out of his league. In my opinion,

1515
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 3: that fight against Volante.

1516
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 10: Was ugly and lucky. Okay number one, he looked tired.

1517
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 10: Three seconds into the fight.

1518
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: Volonte was throwing wild hooks and connecting so much. And

1519
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: I love John Valante, but come on, he did not

1520
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 3: come and peak conditioned. And Crochet Boss is supposed to

1521
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: be someone that is an athletic heavyweight. He's going against

1522
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: a ridiculously athletic heavyweight with a really good team, and

1523
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 3: I think Hardy runs through him. I mean that choke

1524
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: and he got I went, Kenny, I wish I was

1525
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: sitting next to you during that fight, and watch you

1526
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,480
Speaker 3: dropped that tweet when he submitted Valonte via Valonte.

1527
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 10: Exhaustion and not actual choke.

1528
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: But I'm going Greg Hardy here. I don't care if

1529
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 3: it's decision or knockout. I just don't see how Crochet

1530
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: Boss really wins predictable slow.

1531
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 10: I think he's got potential, But I love Greg Hardy in.

1532
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 6: This fight co main event, the fight I am most

1533
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 6: looking forward to this weekend and probably by a good margin.

1534
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 6: Featherweight division thug nasty Bryce Mitchell minus one seventy. Andre

1535
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 6: Peeley is plus one forty Ian You're gonna lead here,

1536
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 6: will need the round and the method of victory. So again,

1537
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 6: you guys are the experts, right, but Mitchell looks like

1538
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 6: a real problem to me, future title contender in my opinion,

1539
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 6: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, and I think the way

1540
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 6: he sort of applies MMA jiu jitsu is exceptional, but

1541
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 6: toughest test to date in Andre Peeley. And what do

1542
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 6: you think here?

1543
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 10: This is a very very interesting fight. We have lost

1544
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 10: some fight so good, very well matched. You know, I'm

1545
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 10: just what throws me off here.

1546
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: Is why Pieley would actually take this fight where he's

1547
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 3: at in his career, because I think he's should be

1548
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: getting a higher ranked fire than Bryce Mitchell.

1549
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 10: And that's not a knock on Bryce at all.

1550
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: It's just Bryce hasn't fought that level of competition yet.

1551
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 3: He hasn't fought names and Andre Pheeley really has and

1552
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 3: been in the wars and stuff. You know, where Bryce

1553
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: has to take this fighters to the ground. I think

1554
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 3: he has to get into side mount and really work

1555
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: from there because Peely is very.

1556
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 10: Tough to take down.

1557
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: He's very fast, he's I think he's gonna be the

1558
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: longer fighter and man can do take a punch. You know,

1559
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: we haven't seen Mitchell really tested either on the chin

1560
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: or anyone.

1561
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know how many rounds he's even.

1562
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: Lost so far where it was like he had a

1563
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: battle through controversy, and we've seen Pheelly really do that.

1564
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 10: We've seen Philly show heart in that last fight. He

1565
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 10: could have gone either way, right, So in.

1566
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: A situation where we're talking about taking shots at underdogs

1567
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: and plays, I think I'm going going to go experience

1568
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 3: and speed here. I think that's where Andre Peeley can get.

1569
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 10: The job done.

1570
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 3: I am very concerned though, if Bryce Mitchell gets his

1571
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: fight to the ground within the first minute and a half,

1572
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 3: when they're not sweaty, Bryce can take advantage. I don't

1573
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 3: think he gets a twister on a guy like Pheey,

1574
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go Andre Peeley. I think this is

1575
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: gonna be a fucking war. I'm gonna go Andre Peeley

1576
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 3: by decision.

1577
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 6: Outstanding job, beautiful breakdown of that last man to submit,

1578
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 6: Andre Peeley, can Flow our old friend Gottofredo Pepe flying

1579
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 6: triangle back in twenty fifteen. So Bryce Mitchell twenty six

1580
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 6: years old, thirteen and one four to zero in the UFC,

1581
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 6: but Pheelly sixteenth UFC appearance, he's won three of his

1582
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 6: last four, and Max Holloway not all that long ago,

1583
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 6: Ken Flow said that Andre Peeley was the toughest opponent

1584
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 6: he had ever fought. That was pre Volkanovski. But the

1585
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 6: point still stands. This is a very credential guy and

1586
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 6: Andre Peely, and I think he sees the value in

1587
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 6: beating the guy who's getting the Camo shorts. What do

1588
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 6: you think about the komain?

1589
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 9: That's exactly right.

1590
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 7: I think that's why he's taking this fight, and you know,

1591
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 7: I agree with you.

1592
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 9: You know, if he wins, it doesn't really do.

1593
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 7: A whole lot for him in some ways, but it

1594
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 7: does with the fan base because I think there are

1595
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 7: a lot of Bryce Mitchell fans out there and there's

1596
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 7: a lot of hype behind him right now, so I

1597
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 7: think in his mind he's like, you know what, I'm

1598
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 7: going to take out this up and comer right now,

1599
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 7: and I think it will make him look good. So

1600
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 7: I also agree with you the fact that I think

1601
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 7: that Andre Feely, you know, is fighting him at the

1602
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 7: right time. I think Andre Peeley's experienced his length in

1603
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 7: the fact that he is very difficult to take down.

1604
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 9: Is going to be tough for Bryce Mitchell.

1605
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 7: I see Andre Peeley, you know, kind of picking him

1606
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 7: apart from the outside, landing a lot of shots, landing

1607
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 7: a lot.

1608
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 9: Of kicks, and avoiding those takedowns.

1609
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 7: And I think Peey is good enough to survive if

1610
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 7: the fight goes to the ground in the last minute

1611
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 7: or two. But I do agree with you early on

1612
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 7: that's where he's got to be careful against Bryce Mitchell.

1613
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 9: That's when Mitchell can take him down and has, you know,

1614
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 9: a lot of time and space to work a submission.

1615
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 9: But I do like Andre Feeley in this fight. I

1616
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 9: think he pulls it out.

1617
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 6: And how do you have him getting that job done?

1618
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 9: My men, let's go by decision.

1619
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 6: I do think that maybe we need an intern. We'll

1620
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 6: pay you to by the way, Ian Park will pay

1621
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 6: have you seen his house in South Florida. My god,

1622
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 6: but we need an intern because when you guys are

1623
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 6: aligned on underdogs, historically I would say you guys are

1624
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 6: very good, but I don't have numbers to back that up.

1625
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 6: So we need an all right main event likely to

1626
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 6: be the last UFC appearance, Kenny for Anderson Silva, So

1627
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 6: I want you to lead the dance here. He is

1628
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 6: forty five years of age. That means he was born

1629
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 6: in nineteen seventy six or sooner, and Ken flow and

1630
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 6: I love that. But Uriah hall Man is a lot

1631
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 6: of part of the story here because he's ranked in

1632
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 6: the top ten, and he's had some really unfortunate circumstances

1633
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 6: this year, sleeping on an air mattress at four to

1634
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 6: seven A, having the Jock Array fight go away because

1635
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 6: Jockarrey tests positive for COVID nineteen, the Joel Romero fight,

1636
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 6: which seemingly a lot of these middleweights want to want

1637
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 6: a chance to prove themselves against that guy. He didn't

1638
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 6: get that opportunity, so promotionally being rewarded here, Kenny, with

1639
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 6: this opportunity against one of the best to ever do it,

1640
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,919
Speaker 6: a true legend who wins the main event on Halloween

1641
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 6: and how do they get it done?

1642
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 9: Man?

1643
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 7: You know, I think that what made Anderson Silva so

1644
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 7: great for many years, I think was you know, a

1645
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 7: big part of it.

1646
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 9: Anyway, what were his physical gifts.

1647
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 7: He certainly was a very technical striker, but speed wise,

1648
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 7: he could read.

1649
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 9: You with his eyes and move out of the way

1650
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 9: or you know, dip and duck.

1651
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 7: It seems like that's kind of gone now and he

1652
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 7: just kind of is a little bit more, you know,

1653
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 7: cautious with his stance and doesn't utilize his footwork as much,

1654
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 7: which concerns me.

1655
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 9: It gets a guy like Yourya Hall, who.

1656
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 12: Is very explosive, who is still going to be fast,

1657
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 12: still has some power. But I do think that Anderson Silva,

1658
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 12: with all of his experience, if there's a guy that

1659
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 12: he can do well against, it's someone like your Iya

1660
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 12: Hall is a good striker. We saw how good Anderson

1661
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 12: Silva looked against someone like an Israel to Sonia. You know,

1662
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 12: is your Eye Hall at the level of out of

1663
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 12: Sonya I don't think so. I do think Anderson can

1664
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 12: make some good decisions out there, and so long as

1665
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 12: he's not overly aggressive and gets cocky. I actually think

1666
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 12: Anderson Silva wins this fight by decision.

1667
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 6: All right, minus two twenty five for your Iya Hall,

1668
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva is plus one seventy five, and Ken full

1669
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 6: likes Anderson Silva to go out on a high note

1670
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 6: in that tiny, little twenty five footer. I mean Anderson

1671
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 6: has never competed in that Well, no, I shouldn't say that,

1672
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 6: because he made his UFC debut in June of two

1673
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 6: thousand and six, so he has absolutely been in that

1674
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 6: little thing. But Ian, we're not for some pretty kind judging.

1675
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 6: I think against Derek Brunson at UFC two oh eight,

1676
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 6: which was February of twenty seventeen, you'd have to go

1677
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 6: all the way back to UFC one fifty three, twenty

1678
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 6: twelve to find his last win against a true psychopath.

1679
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 6: Stephan Bonner last appearance May of twenty nineteen, and he

1680
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 6: suffered that leg injury against Jared cannoneer. So that's the history.

1681
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 6: What do you think about the dog Silva and the

1682
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 6: favorite hauly in.

1683
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: Can we talk about Stephan Bonner being in Diego Sanchez

1684
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: this corner and that insanity that probably was going on

1685
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 3: in that back round.

1686
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 6: God not not during a week in which kuld Be

1687
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 6: Mimago Mattov retires.

1688
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're right, I apology guys, all right, Yeah,

1689
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: I don't see Anderson Silva doing this. Is not a

1690
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 3: this is a come on, how are gonna do it

1691
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 3: to this? How you gonna give Anderson Silva, the guy

1692
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 3: that was supposed to be the next Aerson Silva, who's

1693
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: still in Big Shave, who's sleeping on a mattress in

1694
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: Floris m A, who is still hungry to do this.

1695
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: And Anderson like just signed like a fifteen fight deal

1696
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: like three months ago.

1697
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 10: Now he's retiring because he knows this is just this

1698
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 10: is terrible.

1699
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 3: He should have fought Diego Sanchez at a catchway in

1700
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: his final fight.

1701
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 10: I don't see this being a very good situation for

1702
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 10: your Ryal. I mean for Anderson Silva.

1703
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 3: Where he used to have those levels in his game

1704
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: with defense in the head movement, it's not there anymore.

1705
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 3: That speed is slow down. Ages caught up to him.

1706
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 3: I think the amount of fights he's had in the

1707
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 3: UFC has caught up to him. You know, he's taken

1708
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: a lot of damage since then. I mean with the

1709
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 3: w since Wyman's fight, He's got hit a lot. I

1710
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 3: don't think he really did that great against Israel Atasnya.

1711
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: I think Anasanya didn't want to embarrass his hero or

1712
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: legend and just got through the fight, winning it while

1713
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 3: being respectful.

1714
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 10: You know, saved way that DC beat and and Silva.

1715
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 3: You know, DC literally could have done whatever he wanted

1716
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 3: in that fight, literally whatever he wanted, and he let

1717
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: it go the.

1718
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 10: Full amount of time.

1719
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 3: I just think that Ryah Hall can also take this

1720
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 3: fight to the ground if he really want to without

1721
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: getting submitted.

1722
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 10: Physically, I'm gonna be way stronger. He's more athletic. His

1723
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 10: jiu jitsu is underrated.

1724
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 3: Not a guy that has ever I don't think been

1725
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 3: submitted while being on top as well. And Kenny, I

1726
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 3: think you may have just picked that based on loyalty

1727
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 3: and you're just a sweet guy. Man, You're a sweet guy.

1728
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 3: But I want to fucking beat you. So I'm taking

1729
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 3: your Ryah Hall. I'm going to even go second round.

1730
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 6: Knockout, round two TKO. Your Ryah Hall is the pick

1731
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 6: for Ian Parker. He wants to beat Ken Flow, he

1732
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,440
Speaker 6: wants to secure his slot for the entirety of twenty

1733
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 6: twenty one. Hey, before I let you go. I do

1734
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 6: want your thoughts on this real quick. So, if you're

1735
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 6: putting a lightweight championship fight together right for the vacant

1736
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 6: belt right now, and you're doing it solely based upon

1737
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 6: a meritocracy, right, are you starting that fight with Dustin Poorier?

1738
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 6: I mean, what fight are you making if you're trying

1739
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 6: to give the shot to the two most deserving guys

1740
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 6: right now? It seems like most people are settling on

1741
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 6: McGregor at Pourier, which in theory is already booked in

1742
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 6: some capacity for January twenty third.

1743
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna start a little bit backwards if

1744
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 3: I can.

1745
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 8: Here.

1746
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: So the one person I would not put in there,

1747
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 3: and this is not a knock on him, but I

1748
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,919
Speaker 3: think Michael Chandler needs a fight like a Zan Hooker

1749
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 3: or a Charles Olavera, you know, or even you know.

1750
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people were coming at you

1751
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 3: hard about not putting Tony ferguson there.

1752
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 7: Right.

1753
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 3: It's it's a little hard in my opinion to throw

1754
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 3: anyone who's coming off a loss into that title shot

1755
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: range that that go ahead?

1756
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 6: Can I just say right to your point? So sure, no, no, no,

1757
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 6: but no, and then I'll get out of your way.

1758
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 6: But Ferguson, Gai chie Felder, Hooker all coming off a loss.

1759
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1760
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 3: Here's my issue though with Connor, to be honest with you,

1761
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: and I don't care about all the Connor nut huggers that.

1762
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 10: Are gonna shot on me.

1763
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: I think what Connor's done for the sport, getting eyes

1764
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: on the sport has been phenomenal. But he just beat

1765
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 3: Cowboys Serny at one seventy. To me, that doesn't warrant

1766
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: a title shot either. Obviously, these are different circumstances. You know,

1767
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 3: justin beat Gaichie already, so this is probably the hardest

1768
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: thing they really do.

1769
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 10: Kenny looks hungry like you want.

1770
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 9: But you can say Connor has a knockout win over Dustin.

1771
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, back in like ninety eight. I get it, you know.

1772
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 3: I think there's been a lot of differences here. No, no,

1773
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 3: but listen, but this is why it's so difficult, right,

1774
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: So if you want to really, in my opinion, if

1775
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: the UFC, with the powerhouse marketing they have, I think

1776
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: it'd be so sick if they did a Grand Prix

1777
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 3: and pretty.

1778
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 10: Much spread it out.

1779
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 3: I don't think there's really a rush to fill that

1780
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 3: vacant title right.

1781
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 10: At the moment.

1782
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 7: You know, you don't think that, you don't think the

1783
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 7: UFC benefits by having a title fight on pay per views.

1784
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 7: You don't think that that they're gonna didn't they're gonna

1785
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 7: draw that out in a tournament.

1786
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 10: Well, here's the thing.

1787
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 3: Does it matter if Connor has a belt or not

1788
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: as a main event.

1789
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 10: For pay per view?

1790
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 6: That's part of the case against him. But that's what

1791
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 6: it is, right, I'm telling you, though.

1792
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 10: Any I don't haunt, I don't. I don't disagree with

1793
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 10: what he's saying. I do.

1794
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: Look, but I'm just saying from a fans point of view,

1795
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: I think it'd be so cool to do a Grand

1796
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 3: Prix if they were able to have the top eight

1797
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: guys do it.

1798
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 10: Because and the only why I say this now is because.

1799
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 3: Everybody, in my opinion, except for Dustin Poorier Poor, He's

1800
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 3: only one in my opinion, who really deserves the title

1801
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: shot based on where.

1802
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 10: He's coming, you know, based on his performance after losing.

1803
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 3: You know, but I think him, Brus Connor from marketing wise,

1804
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: can make sense. And if you want to do you know,

1805
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: Gae Chee and the winner of Tony Ferguson Chandler.

1806
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 7: Well, let's the reality is with COVID in this in

1807
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 7: this environment, it's just not going to happen. First of all,

1808
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 7: tournaments rarely work out with this COVID environment. It's even

1809
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 7: less of a chance that any fight gets made.

1810
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 9: Why would you do that.

1811
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 6: It's so hard to get fights off in this climate.

1812
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 6: That is a good part. But Ian you got to understand, right,

1813
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 6: Like sure Dana said last week during fight Week, I

1814
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 6: forget to whom, But no, I know, I know, but

1815
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying, but I'm just saying, they don't want to

1816
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 6: John Bell, They any.

1817
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 10: Weight weight classes don't matter. Didn't we start this whole

1818
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 10: thing to begin. I'm just kidding ahead.

1819
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 6: So, but I'm just saying, it's like you can't look

1820
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 6: too far ahead. I love in theory, the tournament stuff.

1821
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 6: It's fun to talk about it. And yes, when you

1822
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 6: put eight lightweights in a bracket, it looks really fucking cool.

1823
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 6: But it's like it's a fantasy land, you know, Yeah,

1824
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 6: it's not. No, and I'm saying and it's like so

1825
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 6: and so, no fights make sense for the top contenders

1826
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 6: other than Connor unless we know who the champion is.

1827
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 6: So you want to get that belt on the line

1828
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 6: as soon as humanly possible. Yes, you're right that Connor

1829
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 6: could fight, and it doesn't really matter. But I think

1830
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 6: Connor would love to be the undisputed UFC lightweight champion.

1831
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 6: He's coming off a dominant win, granted at seventy and

1832
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 6: I just I don't know. I just think that packing

1833
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 6: up Dana's point that Poorier Hooker only made sense it

1834
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 6: or excuse me that Pourier McGregor only made sense at

1835
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 6: fifty five, Like, yes, that dovetails with with with Steaks

1836
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 6: Championship stakes.

1837
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 10: No, no, and I agree.

1838
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 3: So what I was gonna say after Kenny made the

1839
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 3: best point really and I agree with you. I'm just

1840
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 3: saying if there was a time to do it, not

1841
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: based on COVID, just because everyone's lost to everybody except

1842
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 3: for Dustin and with Connor. However, here's here's the win

1843
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 3: win though, right Obviously Connor vers Dustin for the belt.

1844
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: If Dustin wins, star Star is born, He's got the

1845
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 3: charity stuff behind him. Good guy winning the belt beating

1846
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 3: Connor's awesome.

1847
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 10: If Connor wins, the marketing machine is back, and any

1848
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 10: any fight after that, Connor can Sell.

1849
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: I just hope that if Connor does win that belt,

1850
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: he doesn't pull the many pack yeah shit, and he

1851
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: doesn't defend for like a year and a half.

1852
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 10: That's my only fear when it comes to Connor.

1853
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 8: He does it.

1854
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 10: He's not an active champion. That's not a knock money.

1855
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 3: You know, money doesn't matter to him, and a lot

1856
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: of these guys are fighting still for those paychecks.

1857
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 6: But listen again, it's going to the case against yeah, right.

1858
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 3: But I still think it's gonna be Connor Dustin Yeah,

1859
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: for the best and then what you do after that?

1860
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, So you're about to kick me off, right.

1861
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 8: I got it.

1862
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say this Friday, right after the

1863
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 6: way and or at some point after the way and

1864
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 6: go to Twitter at Ian Parker MMA, and he will

1865
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 6: give you that best bet that I teased off the top.

1866
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 6: So we're gonna start doing a weekly best bet from

1867
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 6: you obviously going head to head and and doing your

1868
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 6: thing with Ken Flow and trying to win this thing

1869
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 6: for Team Annick. And I think what might be the

1870
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 6: final year that it's actually called Team Annik because I

1871
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 6: am I'm a facilitator. I'm really not. I'm happy to

1872
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 6: pay off the bets for either one of you. Lord knows,

1873
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 6: I'd do anything for Ken Flow but at Ian Parker

1874
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 6: Mma after the way and on Friday, and appreciated a

1875
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 6: great job Duck on some of those breakdowns.

1876
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 10: But men, now you one last thing.

1877
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 3: Congrats that can bebe on a phenomenal career to go

1878
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 3: out in that way, to win that.

1879
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 10: Way, you know, I don't. I don't think there's anything

1880
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 10: left for him.

1881
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: And I think it was pretty cool what GSP said

1882
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: that he wouldn't, you know, drag the guy out of

1883
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 3: retirement for that type of fight.

1884
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 10: Anyone who says.

1885
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: Or Knox his career John Jones, I think it's absolutely

1886
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: just being salty right now for no reason.

1887
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 10: But uh, what a way to go out. And you know,

1888
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 10: congrats to him.

1889
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 6: So all right, buddy, great stuff. We'll we will talk

1890
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 6: to you next Sunday or Monday and get ready for

1891
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 6: November seventh. Thank you, buddy. Letter all right, it's an

1892
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 6: NFL plays for you on the way out. I am

1893
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 6: four and three. Cody Merrow is two four and one.

1894
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 6: I'm not gloating early. I know better than do that.

1895
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 6: In NFL. Hendic caapin who do you have for week eight, Man.

1896
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 5: Once again, short and sweet. I'm gonna go with a

1897
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 5: team that you know, really hurt us. A couple weeks back,

1898
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 5: I thought the Patriots should have beat the Broncos when

1899
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 5: they came into New England. I still don't think the

1900
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 5: Broncos are very good. So the Broncos owing three at home,

1901
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 5: they're welcoming in the Chargers, who are getting minus three point.

1902
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 5: I got to go with the five and one against

1903
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,839
Speaker 5: the spread, Chargers minus three against the Broncos.

1904
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 6: All right, Chargers minus three against the Broncos, And you

1905
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 6: know what I'm doing here. Did anyone see the New

1906
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 6: England Patriots game this weekend? Ken Flow? Did you see

1907
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 6: the Pats game?

1908
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 9: It was tough, It was tough to watch.

1909
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 7: Man.

1910
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 6: So fifteen hour flight from Abu Dhabbi and on the

1911
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 6: Eddie Hot Airways, we get one NFL game in each window,

1912
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 6: and the flight lined up, so of course we got

1913
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 6: that Patriots game. And I fell asleep well at halftime

1914
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 6: after that abomination in the first half. So my brother

1915
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 6: thinks that and you can see my twin brother, by

1916
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 6: the way, he's got hair down to his shoulders. Remember

1917
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,520
Speaker 6: the show, Remember the show with Balal Muhammad this Thursday,

1918
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 6: eight thirty cody pm Eastern Time, eight thirty pm Eastern Time.

1919
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 6: That is a live program. We're live to tape. But

1920
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 6: it looks like maybe Dustin Porrier and Paul Felder are

1921
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 6: both going to be on that program on this very channel.

1922
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 6: But I'm taking the Buffalo Bills at home minus three

1923
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 6: and a half against the New England Patriots. J thinks

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Speaker 6: that Cam Newton was like sick or something. So the

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Speaker 6: that ticket. But Ken Flow, I was disgusting.

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Speaker 7: It was bad, dude, it was It was got comical.

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Speaker 7: Like in the second half, I just started laughing.

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, oh yeah, you just trip over your.

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Speaker 9: Own feet right now. Yeah, Like literally everything that could

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Speaker 6: It was like one of the uh, worst regular season

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Speaker 6: losses in a while, you know, almost as comical as

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Speaker 6: all those championship banners, like six in a row. And

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Speaker 6: you know it's like Belichick's running out of fingers. That's

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Speaker 6: why he's taking it on the chin a little bit.

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Speaker 6: This year, but uh, all right, we got to get

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Speaker 6: on out of here. Thanks for uh for being with

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Speaker 6: us as always. Thanks for spreading the word on the podcast.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate that as well. Everybody's saying, oh, you need

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Speaker 6: more subscribers. Hey, we're two hundred and seventy three shows

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Speaker 6: in launched the YouTube channel last year. Please be along

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Speaker 6: for the ride. Get on the he Boss, get on

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Speaker 6: Thanks to Ray Longo, thanks to our producer is Cody

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Speaker 6: Merrow and on behalf of the flow. Just really want

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Speaker 6: to thank everybody out there for supporting the show, supporting

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Speaker 6: that essay I did on kabeb. I love all of you.

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Speaker 6: You can subscribe on YouTube if you're just on the

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Speaker 6: audio side, Tell your friends and Saturday night, I guess

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Speaker 6: we'll see how it goes for the forty five year

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Speaker 6: old Anderson Silva and then we're back to recap it

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Speaker 6: all with you next week. Until then, stay healthy, don't

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Speaker 6: text and drive and militips. These masks I think they work,

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Speaker 6: so if it's not too much, shield your face, bruh.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk to you guys next week.

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Speaker 8: Kill later.

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Speaker 1: I'm royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

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Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a

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Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that

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Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews.

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Speaker 8: In England, he'd go to jail for that.

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Speaker 1: Here in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen

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