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The offseason isn't necessarily a time 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: for rational thought from NBA fans, and after that disappointing 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: loss to the Hawks, seventy six ers faithful or debating 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: whether or not they should trade Ben Simmons. Now they're 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: even talking about maybe we could get Damian Lillard. Man 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: maybe pigs can fly too. Now. The point of Twitter 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: is in sports talk radios, we love to throw out 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: those possibilities because we don't think about the other team. 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: We think about our team, and you go, yeah, we 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: could trade Ben Simmons and get Damian Lillard. Okay, Portland 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't like that deal, but I'm guessing you would 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: love that deal, the proposed deal. It's not like the 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: rest of the NBA didn't see Ben Simmons passing up 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: on shots in the playoffs. It's not like Portland's front 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: office went, hey, Ben puts up pretty good numbers. How 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: did he do in crunch time against the Hawks? Oh? No, 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: would you trade a fifty dollars bill for one hundred 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: dollars bill? No, you wouldn't. But that's what you're basically doing. 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you Ben for Damian Lillard. Ben's a 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: lot Younger teams want their star players to shoot the 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: ball once in a while, maybe be clutch. But the 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: truth is it's not that easy for teams to reshape 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: themselves in the off season. Seventy six or fans, they 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: might have to adjust their expectations because creating a list 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: of possible trade destinations is a long way from actual reality. 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Here with what's going to happen in the off season 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons, it's just not an easy fix. He's 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: talked about maybe playing for the Australian Olympic team. I 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: would hope that he's able to play basketball and feel 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: confident in playing basketball. Get out of Philadelphia. You play 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: for the Olympic team, you playing with your friends, Maybe 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: you can put yourself in a position to succeed. Maybe 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: you change from left handed to right handed. As there's 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: a report out there that Ben might be looking to 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: start shooting right handed. I don't have any confirmation on 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: that other than what I said when he was at LSU, 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: I thought he was right handed because he didn't look 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: comfortable shooting left hand. Get in the gym. Doc Rivers said, oh, 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: we have a plan here for helping him shooting. Trust me, 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: you can shoot free throws. You can make fifteen twenty 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: in a row. When the game's on the line. It's 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: different when everybody is there watching, you're alone on the line. 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: It's a friend and that's why this is more mental. 52 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I think Ben had a game and Paully, can you 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: check or mclovin earlier in the year against Utah that 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons I think made eleven of thirteen free throws 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: against the Utah Jazz in Utah. So he can do it. 56 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: But now this is mental and he needs to embrace 57 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: what his problem is. Now you fix it, and it's 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: not an easy process here, Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Dan. That 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: game was back in February. Ben Simmons played thirty eight 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: minutes he was twelve of six twelve of twenty six 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: from the field with forty two points. He was twelve 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: of thirteen from the free to line. He's capable of 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: doing this, but at some point he's going to get 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: to the point of no return because he's turning twenty five. 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: That's not old, but he's been in the league for 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: going on seven years, sixty year, so he's gonna be 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: twenty five and a couple of weeks. You know, it's 68 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: really hard to change your game when you're twenty five 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: years of age and you're not trending upwards. If you're 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: trying something you're not. Lebron famously couldn't shoot and didn't 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: want to shoot. Go back to the two thousand and 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: seven NBA Finals against San Antonio. They begged him to shoot. Now, 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: san Antonio was a great team in Cleveland was not. 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: It didn't matter. But Lebron realized, right then, if I 75 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: want to be one of the greats of the game, 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: I have to work on this and be confident taking 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: this jump shot, because guys can shoot when they're by themselves. 78 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: In warmups. Hell, I was all warmups. I mean I 79 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: dominated in warmups, but put me in a game all 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, get a little nervous there, 81 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: and then when you miss your first shot, and then 82 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: you take your next one and you miss it, then 83 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: you're even more apprehensive. This happened to Paul George in 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the Bubble last year. You take a shot and he 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: would miss. Take another shot, he'd at the side of 86 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: the back. Now, all of a sudden, you don't want 87 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: to take shots, and that's mental. That's the hardest thing 88 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: to change, the mental aspect of this. Do I think 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: you could put Ben Simmons in the gym with a 90 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: shooting coach. You know, San Antonio did this. They did 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: this with Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi wasn't known as a jump shooter. 92 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: He's got great form now, but he got worked. He 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: was a defensive player, and I think Chip England, who 94 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: is one of the great shooting teachers in basketball, you know, 95 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: was able to help out Kawhi Leonard. But Kawhi didn't 96 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: have that mental block of I don't want to take 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: the shot, I don't want to go to the line. 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: And that's going to be the hard part to break here. Yeah, McLean, 99 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: I'll make the argument. Okay, the reason Ben Simmons is 100 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: not playing well is because he can't play on the 101 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: court with Joe allenb that game you mentioned and bead 102 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: was out and be clogs up everything in the middle 103 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: and takes Simmons the most valuable place. So he if 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: you get him away from MBID, it'll be much more effective. Okay, 105 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: does that help him shoot? He's a much better shooter. 106 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Whin N beads off the core, like much more aggressive. Okay, 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: that's mental as well. Mclovin, big time. But maybe some 108 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: other team could say, like, oh, let's look at these 109 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: games by way, they lost almost all those games. Oh 110 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: let's look at these games when it beads out. Maybe 111 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: we could have some of that. The Phoenix Suns Chris 112 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Paul ruled out for tonight's Game two and no further update. 113 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: According to the Phoenix Suns, he is quarantining in Los 114 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: Angeles and there was one report that he isn't showing 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: any symptoms. There was another report the Arizona Republic said 116 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: that he is suffering from experiencing a fever. We also 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: don't know about Kawhi Leonard. There's no update on that 118 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: other than he is out for tonight's game. But that's 119 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: the update, you know, and you're trying to figure this 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: out short term, long term. If you're ty Lou, you 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: know what changes do I make? Phoenix saying what do 122 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: you do? But Game two coming up tonight, Yes, PAULI 123 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: we talked last week about what an opportunity it was 124 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: for Chris Paul, a guy whose career has been known 125 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: for being very good but not a winner. He's now 126 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: on the sidelines as his team has a one to 127 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: lead in the Western Conference Finals without Kawhi Leonard. If 128 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: this goes south for the Suns, that would be devastating 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: for Paul. That you can't he may not play in 130 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: the series, depending on how long the time takes. I 131 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: know the series stretches along, but luckily they got the 132 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: one to lead, but that terrible. You should beat the 133 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Clippers without Kawhi Leonard and you have home court advantage. 134 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: But if if you're gonna say can you beat can 135 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: the Suns beat the Clippers? With the Sons without Chris 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Paul and the Clippers without Kawhi Leonard, Phoenix should still 137 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: be able to beat them. Because I like my guy, 138 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: my star player, Devin Booker, more than I like the 139 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Clippers star guy Paul George. Although Paul George has played 140 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: well in the playoffs, but Phoenix with home court advantage 141 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: that I expect Chris Paul to be back to play 142 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: in this series. Club was that the narrative when he 143 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: was in Houston too, Like he got hurt right now 144 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: as they were geared up to really make a run 145 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: at the worst. Yeah, what a track. But how come 146 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: we don't like hold it against Paul that? You know, 147 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: I think of the legacy'll be fine either way. Well, 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, he people want to put him up on 149 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: that top five point guard. He's not a top five 150 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: point guard of all time in my opinion. And it's 151 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: weird that we have the designations. As far as positions, 152 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what Oscar Robertson was. He was six 153 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: to five, probably waged two thirty and he was an 154 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: incredible passer but also a great scorer. Is he a 155 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: point guard? Was Jerry West a point guard? Is Steph 156 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Curry a point guard? Like? Who isn't? Who isn't? Who isn't? 157 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Used to be your point guard? Was a guy who 158 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: passed first? You know? John Stockton was a point guard. 159 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Bob Kuzy like they were point guards. You know, Isaiah 160 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: famously could go off for forty points, but he was 161 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: your point guard. But I don't know if you can 162 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: have a designation anymore because I Golden States point guard 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: is Draymond Green. He leads him in assists. Is Lebron 164 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: a point guard? And the answers, yes, he's more a 165 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: point guard than Steph Curry is. I mean, Lebron's gonna 166 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: be top five and assist when it's all said and done, right, 167 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Steph Curry was twenty fifth in the league and assist 168 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: this year, now number one in points. He's a shooting guard, yeah, 169 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: I McLeman. I saw Duran bring the ball up almost 170 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: every time for the nets. See a point guard, and 171 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: then he shot it. Yeah, I know you right, he's 172 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: not passing. He's not passing the ball. We'll talk to 173 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Rex Chapman. He'll join us coming up. We've been talking 174 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: about this NCIA and what's going on name, image and likeness, 175 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: the number of states that are going to allow you 176 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: to capitalize on that, and then there's a lot of 177 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: states that aren't going to allow There are athletes to 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: be able to do this for a few years now, 179 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: but you have Alabama, you have Georgia, have Florida, you 180 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: have Texas, Okloma, Like this is going to happen with 181 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: some of these schools, like immediately July first, Yeah, MC club. 182 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: It struck me. You said California was behind every reminds 183 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: me how Pac twelve came back to football later than 184 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: Big ten sec. Yeah. Are they gonna lose some more 185 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: ground here? It feels like that. But I you know, 186 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: I I know we're overreacting, but it's because I think 187 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: we underreacted for such a long period of time. I mean, 188 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: when you hear Supreme Court, then you get my attention. 189 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: When you know Justice Cavanaugh is coming out and saying 190 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: we would never tolerate this in any other business. I mean, 191 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: this is a true monopoly cartel, and we know this. 192 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: The question is would somebody stand up to the NCIA 193 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: And what's it mean as we move forward? You know, 194 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: is it a free market place where athletes going to 195 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: get paid from Gatorade in college or Adidas or Nike 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: whatever it is. You know how much influence is that 197 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: going to have in some of these states, some of 198 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: these schools that they can attract players and say come 199 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: on in, open for business. The school's still going to 200 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: make their money. This doesn't cost them anything. This is 201 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: outside money. All you want to do is you probably 202 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: have somebody whose job is to help these students. Make 203 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: sure you have taxes taken out, everything's above board. You 204 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: have a compliance department that will help you with this. 205 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: We may not like it, but it's bound to happen, 206 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: and it's happening. It's happening. It feels like overnight, but 207 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: this has been a twenty five year process and we're 208 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: talking about this on the day where the bull you know, 209 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: the committee is going to be talking about voting on 210 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: a twelve team playoff. These schools are going to still 211 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: make their money, they're gonna make even more money. But 212 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: you juxtapose that with, hey, we want we're making more money, 213 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: and we're voting on a twelve team playoff. Meanwhile, you're 214 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: asking those student athletes and I hate saying student athletes 215 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: because they're athletic students, and you're saying, hey, come on 216 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: in and play a couple extra games for us. Well, 217 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: now the athlete can say, hey, I got some revenue 218 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: coming in. Now. I don't know how much. I don't 219 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: know how many athletes will get this, but it's happening. 220 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: And the NCAA could have addressed this with Ed O'Bannon, 221 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: former UCLA star who was in a video game, and 222 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: all they did. You know, I was like, wait a minute, 223 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: that's me. I'm not getting any money on this video game. Well, 224 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: the NCAA just kicked it like a can down the road, 225 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: like you're not doing that now, not in front of 226 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. And now you're gonna ask Congress to 227 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: help you out. Yeah. I was just thinking of how 228 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: wide reaching this could be. Can you imagine, like, um, 229 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and a bunch of guys are invited to 230 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: the Heisman ceremony someone were underclassmen. They said, yeah, I'll 231 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: come to the Heisman Trophy ceremony and ESPN for a 232 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars appearance fee. You want us four 233 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: to show up to the Heisman ceremony. You got this 234 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: big TV show brought to you by Toyota and all 235 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: those sponsors. Yeah cool, twenty five thousand dollars parents VIEE. Yeah. 236 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how far reaching this is, 237 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: but but but it's here, it's present, and it's not 238 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: going away. Yes, And instead of wearing like a sport 239 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: check or a suit that Pouli was saying, these athletes 240 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: are wearingly look like NASCAR drivers that covered in sponsorships 241 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: from head to toe on their lapel and their hat. Yeah, 242 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm in club. Forget all that they have Instagram that's 243 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: where this is all that's gonna be the front. This 244 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: is old. Think of Guike who carries about sponsorship. They're 245 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna all be social media and women too. By the way, 246 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: women took like Yukon women. Don't you think they do 247 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: very well? Yes, page Backers, I mean she's nineteen, she's famous, 248 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: and she can't go into the w NBA early. I 249 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: think she has to wait to after her junior year. 250 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: She could be making money. Am I to tell you? 251 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: They're pretty big stars locally around here? Oh yeah, yeah absolutely. 252 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean page is the face of college basketball. My 253 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: girl from Iowa, Caitlin Clark. You know these and they 254 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: can't make money, you know, until they after their junior 255 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: year to go to the w NBA. Yeah. See. Page 256 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Backers has over eight hundred thousand followers on Instagram. Eight 257 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. I mean she's you could totally monetize. Oh 258 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: my god, Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, it's happening, all right. 259 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Age seven seven three d P show email adresstp at 260 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. By 261 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the way, Jacob deGrom is the first pitcher who was 262 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: asked to take off his hat and give his glove, 263 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe his belt. Remember when it used to beat? Well, no, 264 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: it still happens. License and registration. Please, this is Baseball's 265 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: version of license and registration. It's just a hat and glove. 266 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Put your hands on the wheel. 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Also say good morning 302 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: to our great radio affiliates around the country. Coming up 303 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: a little bit, we'll hear from Tom Brady and also 304 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom. He was, you know, he felt the shakedown 305 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: last night by the umpires. They wanted to check he 306 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: didn't have any foreign substances on him, and he pitched 307 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: a great game as well. But it was kind of 308 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: funny to look at that. He's like, all right, what 309 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: do you want, belt, hat, glove? Here it is, and 310 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: then they expect inspected him. Rex Chapman, former NBA player, 311 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: former Kentucky hoop star, Twitter legend, by the way, and 312 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: he's got a podcast that's great. It's called Charges. It 313 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: takes audiences on a journey through some of the most 314 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: fascinating scandals that rocked the sports world, from brawls to 315 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: betting to bribery and everything in between. And Rex joins 316 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: us on the program. Good morning, Rex, How's morale? Good morning, 317 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Patrick? How are you bading? I'm doing okay? You 318 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: going to the Sun's game tonight? Streat question. Yes, I'm 319 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: in Phoenix. I'm going to the Suns game. I'm trying 320 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: to go through. I'm glad to see you've got on 321 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Jay Billis and Jim Jackson because I was trying to 322 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: go through the process. What thought process was going on 323 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: in your mind? H you know when you saw that 324 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: this Scotus decision and you needed something like that. You know, 325 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: guys like Jay Billis, you don't go call up Rex. Yeah, 326 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: well we can. We can talk about, you know, what 327 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: it was like when you came out of high school 328 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: and what you could have made, Like if you were 329 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: Kentucky now as a sophomore, let's say, and they gave 330 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: you your name, image and likeness, what kind of money 331 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: do you think you would make above board at Kentucky. 332 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I remember back, you know, 333 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: and during those times that you know, they sold jerseys, 334 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: they sold T shirts. The one that got me was 335 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: and students had him. Everybody seemed like everybody had him, 336 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: said I love Rex on them. It was just real 337 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: generic heart And I mean they sold thousands and thousands 338 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: of them during my time at Kentucky, which of course 339 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: I never saw any of the So yeah, there you go. 340 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: But you know, if you look at the landscape, now, 341 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: is this going to change college athletics if you have 342 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: certain states that allow this, you know, basketball stars like 343 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: what would Zion Williamson be worth name, image, and likeness 344 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: to spend one year at Duke. I have no idea 345 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: what that is. I mean, it's it's like millions of dollars, 346 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. It's millions of dollars. I mean, think 347 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: about it. If if you tell college kids, no class today, 348 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: they go okay, they say no practice today, or no, 349 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: we're not going to pay you or I'm sorry. Professional athletes. 350 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: If you tell professional athletes okay, look guys, we're not 351 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: going to pay this month or this week, they say 352 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: we're not going to play. Yeah, you know, And that's 353 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: what we've been kind of stuck with years and years. 354 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: But this it used to be how did athletes get 355 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: paid back when you were coming out of high school, 356 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: either under the table or through some Yeah, I mean 357 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: it fostered a you know, look, everybody is out there 358 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: trying to fight over the best players in the country 359 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: at the highest level, twenty five schools football, basketball, going 360 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: after the same kids every year, and you just brought 361 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: it up If some states are going to allow this 362 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and some states are not going to the states that 363 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: are not going to are really going to suffer talent wise. 364 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: The best players just aren't gonna ultimately go to that school. 365 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: They're going to find another state where these college And look, 366 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: most you played college ball, Dan, I mean, most college 367 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: kids are not going to go play professional sports. So look, 368 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: they got a short window, four or five year window 369 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: in college to make a little money off their name, image, 370 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: and likeness. Is that too much to ask? Without naming names? 371 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: The biggest off for you, guy, oh Man, I would say, uh, 372 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: just a flat five hundred thousand dollars and uh uh 373 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: what do you call it in scrow that I get 374 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: when I get out? Um, which you know, think about that. 375 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: That's that's insane, insane. What, Well, you didn't have money 376 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: growing up, and oh and you could take care of 377 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: your family right away with something like that. Well, of course, 378 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: but and you know, the argument I hear from from 379 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: people who've been anti paying players in college forever is well, 380 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want an athlete driving around 381 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: and an escalate on campus. You know, I don't really 382 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: is that what you have a problem with? You. You 383 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: don't seem to have a problem with Buffy and Mark 384 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: over in the fraternity and sorority that are driving their 385 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: dad's Escalade or their their Mercedes. These are these are 386 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: at least the guy. They earned this money with something 387 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: they did. But how how are you presented an offer 388 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: like that? I wasn't through me. It wasn't to me. 389 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: It was for sure through my fab through my parents 390 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: or my coaches. Oh well, okay, I was. You know, 391 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: kids are too young. I think I hope kids are 392 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: too young to have than to have adults company to 393 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: them offering them. You know, could you would have said yes? Right? 394 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have said. I know 395 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: what I would have said. I would have immediately told 396 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: my dad, told my mom and see what they were 397 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna say. So yeah, I mean, but you know, sixteen 398 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid, you have no idea what's going 399 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: on in life? You know much less um you know 400 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: big time college athletics. Help me understand, Ben Simmons. If 401 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: you're if you're on the seventy sixers coaching stuff like 402 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: you're Doc Rivers, So what does the offseason constitute in 403 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: relationship to Ben Simmons you know, I see a lot 404 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: of a lot of hate going on out there with Ben, 405 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: and look, I get it, he's playing professional sports, but 406 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: again he's a he's very young. We didn't we didn't 407 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: jump on Ray Jean Rondo and he couldn't shoot after 408 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, his shooting was an issue. He got better. 409 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, he got better. We weren't expecting them to 410 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: be great shoot. I remember Jason Kidd and I compare 411 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: Ben a lot with Jason. You know, Ben's bigger, but 412 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: they played very much the same. We used to get 413 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: mad at Jason during games because he wouldn't shoot the ball. 414 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: He didn't have confidence enough to shoot the ball. We 415 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: had a veteran team and if I if I came 416 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: off a screen or kJ came off a screen and 417 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: Jason wasn't going to shoot it, we had two guys 418 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: and I had two guys in my lap, so we 419 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: had to beg Jason to shoot it. There's has to 420 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: be something that goes on with Ben, and I know 421 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a confidence that. Obviously it's a confidence thing. He 422 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: has no confidence shooting a jump shot, and I can't 423 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: imagine what that feels like, because he is extraordinary in 424 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: every other facet of the game, every other facet. And 425 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say you can't win with Ben 426 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: Simmons as a point guard in this league because he's 427 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: a phenomenal basketball player. But he has to put the 428 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: work in. It has to come every single day. But 429 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: what is that though? This isn't just going out there 430 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: and shooting a hundred free throws. I gotta put you 431 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: in a game situation where these free throws actually matter, 432 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: like it's really important. Like if you missed this, the 433 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: entire team runs ten wind sprints or whatever it is. 434 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: There has to be stakes attached to it. Shaq could 435 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: make twenty in a row in practice. Yeah, you know, 436 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: I would say, look at it. Look at a young 437 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: man right now. Like mcl bridges in Phoenix. If you 438 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: remember a year ago, he had one of the worst 439 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: jump shots you've ever seen. He got a real hitch 440 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: in it where he almost couldn't release it. It was 441 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: like a three part jump shot. And he went to 442 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: work during the pandemic. And I mean to tell you 443 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: he's a different guy now. It's it's muscle memory. It's 444 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: a commitment, though, it's a commitment to going in and 445 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: not shooting a hundred shots. It's shooting five hundred shots 446 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: a day and being committed to being a better shooter. 447 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: The second he starts feeling a little bit of confidence, 448 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: his whole world will change. And I still believe he's 449 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to shoot the basketball. I hope. 450 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, I wonder if he can stay in Philadelphia 451 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: though Rex, I don't know that that ship may have 452 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: sailed tough city and looks it's not for everybody. I'm 453 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: not sure that Ben and Joel are a great match, 454 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: so maybe it is time. Well, and mclovin just brought 455 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: this up that when Ben was the star, when Joel 456 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: Embiid was out, he put up like forty two points 457 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: against Utah. He made eleven or thirteen free throws. There, 458 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: it's there. I just don't know if that mental block 459 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: is going to stay there. And that might be you 460 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: got it like markl Full couldn't stay in Philadelphia. He 461 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: needed to get out. And I don't know if you 462 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: get Ben on a team that doesn't have great expectations 463 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: and then he can be he can grow his confidence. 464 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: Whereas Philadelphia the bar is so high. They brought in 465 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: doctor win a championship and you know, you got an 466 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: MVP candidate in Beads, you got Tobias Harris. You're spending 467 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: all that money on the stakes maybe are too high 468 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: for him, and I think he needs to almost dual reset. 469 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: That's okay, he can do that. I mean, there's gonna 470 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: be no show or did the teams that want Ben 471 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: Simmons young. He's one of the top, you know, young 472 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: players in the NBA's a physical freak of nature, fast vision, 473 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: all of that. When I watch him play, I do 474 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: right now, I see a little bit of I'm gonna 475 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: go back to Jason, but just it's his insecurity shooting 476 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: the basketball. And when he's on the floor with you 477 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: said at Tobias Harris and Seth Curry and guys who 478 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: are snipers like that, you can almost see him catch 479 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: the ball and be anxious to get the all to 480 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: them because he knows that's you know, that's what they 481 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: do best. So I think he's going through just growing 482 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: pains as a young player and in one of the 483 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: toughest sports cities in the country. He's Rex Chapman, former 484 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: NBA player, Kentucky hoop star and Twitter legend, his podcast, 485 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: his charges who's been on charges as of late. Uh. 486 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: And and again you're looking at guys who've had troubled past. 487 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: We've certainly talked about what yours has been, so it's 488 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: full disclosure on your part. But who are some of 489 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: the guests you've had recently? Oh man, you know, well 490 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: recently Chris Herron had Chris on which was just a 491 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: fantastic Podum. I did one that's actually coming out today 492 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: that I'm really excited about as a guy that I 493 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: don't know much about hockey. I thought hockey was a 494 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: new sport in the South when ESPN came on in 495 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: the well you're growing up in Kentucky, you were exactly 496 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: what is this? That? And the cross? What is this? 497 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: So um, I forget where where was you got a 498 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: hockey player that? Oh? Oh we got I got, I 499 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: got Chris Knuckles Nylon, just a fascinating story. And then 500 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: coming out next week, I believe we've got a two 501 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: parter with Stevie Jackson and Matt Barnes coming up, So 502 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: we'll release half the Smoke one week and the rest 503 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: of the Smoke uh week two. But that that really 504 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: is fascinating. I'm having so much fun with it. It's 505 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: just it's awesome getting to know these guys and letting 506 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: them tell their story in their own words. You know 507 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: Chris Herron's story. You know, he was a high school 508 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: legend in Masson in Boston, Uh, you know, played for 509 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Jerry tark Tarkanian and then you know, when we've had 510 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: him ony, he's scoring drugs in warmups when he was 511 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: playing for the Celtics, he was getting he was scoring 512 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: oxy while wearing his uniform, his warmups. Yeah, yeah, you know, 513 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: the funny thing. Funny, but the thing with Chris hern 514 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: and spoke with Knuckles Nyland, all three of us to 515 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: a person document nineteen ninety nine and two thousand as 516 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: the jumping off point for just going down the toilet 517 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: with our lives, which was when we were all three 518 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: introduced to OxyContin. And it was a monster that we 519 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: just could you know, we were we were one of 520 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: those We were three of those people that really get 521 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: along well with painkillers. Makes us feel extraordinarily good, and uh, 522 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: it just uh it started years for all three of 523 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: us of addiction and real problem. So I'm just thrilled 524 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: that these guys were able to come on and tell 525 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: their stories and that they that they've lived through to 526 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: see the other side. But the fact that he's out there, 527 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you really need to store oh you do. 528 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: And and Dan, I can't. I can't even tell you 529 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: what that's like. It there comes a point where you're 530 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: so dependent on that physiologically, I mean you you start 531 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: feeling it, you start feeling sick, and the only thing 532 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: you can think about is getting that pill and putting 533 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: it in your mouth and getting it into your system. 534 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 1: Is and I would just chew him up just to 535 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: get him into my blood stream. They taste like crap, 536 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, But just to get him into my blood 537 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: screen quicker, and nothing is more important to think about that. 538 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: He was out minutes to go before starting lineups, and 539 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: he's standing on the corner up there at the garden 540 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: waiting for his oxy dealer. It's it's madness, it's insane thinking. 541 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: But that's where we were at the time. I got 542 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: jim Jackson on Next Hour. He's the best Jimmy Jackson 543 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: at just to say, but if I forget was an 544 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: unbelievable basketball player, he gave me fits might be a 545 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: better analyst. He's an unbelievable basketball analyst. And he puts 546 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: you on lockdown occasionally. Oh did he? I think he 547 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: gave me fifty one night. I was coming back from 548 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: a from a thumb injury and and uh, they went 549 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: at me. He was in Dallas, and uh, I think 550 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: you have to ask him about it. But I think 551 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: he gave me fifty one. Michael never gave me fifty. 552 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy gave me fifty. Yeah. Do you think guys circled 553 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: that that game on their calendar when they knew that 554 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: they were they were gonna face you? I hope so, 555 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: because I circled down? Yeah? Yeah, but who did you? 556 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Who did you know you were gonna have a great game? 557 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: You just couldn't wait? You never? You never? Yeah you can, okay, 558 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Vinny del Negro, you knew, you knew you were gonna 559 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: light up Benny del Negro. No, man, I can't. I 560 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: can't say that Vinny was great? Just did No? I didn't, Okay, 561 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, you could light up Vinny del Negro, 562 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: he's my guy. Yeah, yeah, well not anymore. And warm Hey, 563 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you as always. Um so 564 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: no kawai, no Chris Paul tonight, but you get to 565 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: watch Devin Booker. Oh man, how much fun are these 566 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: sons And I'm I'm a homer. Of course I'm biased, 567 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: but look at what's look at what's left. The Suns 568 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: are the most complete team left. I feel like they defend, 569 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: They defend like they defend better than any of the 570 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: teams left. They share the ball like a college team. 571 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about Montie Williams. And I've been 572 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: around this this squad song, then you know what a 573 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: college atmosphere feels like. And when it's really good, it's 574 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: really good. These players love Montie Williams like they love 575 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: their their favorite college coach. To a person, He's come 576 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: in and he's changed the culture. James Jones and Robert 577 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: Sarver made a great hire and the culture has completely changed. 578 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: Devin Booker's obviously a star. DeAndre Aden's come leaps and bounds, 579 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: So look out for this. If they get Chris back 580 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: and are healthy, I don't know anybody can beat them. 581 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: I would ask you this, but I know the answer, 582 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: because you're not gonna know the answer. Where can people 583 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: find your podcast? Charges? Um, I'm gonna say anywhere you 584 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: can find your podcast? Apple, Spotify, yea to all of 585 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. iHeartRadio charges look at you. Okay, look I'm 586 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: getting the hangover. You are you are y'all growed up? Yeah, 587 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: like you mature in there, and it looks like you 588 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: made your bed too. Well. I did. I got in 589 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: trouble for not doing that last nime. Look, Dan, when 590 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: you go hardship out of college, you got it takes 591 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: some time, you know. I love it. Back then, Rex 592 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: went hardship? Was it really? Were you hardship? Back home? 593 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, how much did your dad make at 594 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: the time? Oh man, he didn't make very much, right, 595 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't making very much. Yeah, But back then you 596 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: could go hardship. That's what it was called, going hardship. 597 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: And I remember, well, almost nobody did it at the 598 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: time that I was doing it. It It kind of slowed 599 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: down and I didn't intend on leaving any way. We 600 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: were going on probation, you know that because not because 601 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: of you, right, probably that's a long time ago. I 602 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: had Mashburn on Jamal Mashburn on my other pot I 603 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: do with Josh Hopkins, the Rex Chapman Show. And I 604 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: had Mashburn on a few weeks ago or a month 605 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: or so ago, and he was going through he said 606 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: you know that year, you know, the first year I 607 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: came in. We had a great year, but we couldn't 608 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: make the tournament. We were on probation. I said, sorry, 609 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: I didn't that team go thirteen and thirteen that year? 610 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: That year and they're on probation with Patino? They may 611 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: they may have, they may have. I don't know. I 612 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: whose track it round. I did a story on Kentucky 613 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: basketball that year, But was that the Chris Mills FedEx? 614 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: You know? Well, if I would have stayed in school 615 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: and gone on to be a junior, our team would 616 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: have been myself, Chris Mills, Eric Manuel laurn Ellis, and 617 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Sean Kemp. Oh, that's a squad. That's a squad. That's 618 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: that's a that's an NCAA investigation, is what it is. 619 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: It never materialized, Sean Kemp. Wasn't it that Eddie Sutton's 620 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: son took his SAT test for it? Allegedly? Your your 621 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: confusing stories, okay, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that was all 622 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: kind of going on. You know, it's easy to get 623 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: confused when it comes to Kentucky basketball there, Max, because 624 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: we're so damn Yes, absolutely, that's what I went to 625 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: many titles. That's what you're talking you should be wearing 626 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: your uniform tonight. Your your phoenix. Well you got a 627 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: lot of uniforms. Yeah, maybe I'll just wear my uniform. 628 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: That would be great. Like just go with your socks 629 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: and your shoes. Just walk in, yeah, socks and she tape. 630 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And nobody's gonna think, wow, that's really Rex Chapman. 631 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: They'll be like, dude, is dressing up like Rex Chapman. 632 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: I did that one year for Halloween. Here you dressed 633 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: up as you Yeah, wait were you sober at the time? 634 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: Fifty f a jump off? Who knows? Have fun tonight, 635 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: behave Okay, that's Rex Chapman and his podcast is charges. 636 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's great revealing. He sent me a couple 637 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: of episodes that I got to the kind of screen 638 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: for him. But he's doing great. Take a break back 639 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 640 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 641 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 642 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 643 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, 644 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 645 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: Along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon, would meet a 646 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. 647 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: You're asking what in God's name is the Fifth Hour. 648 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's a spin off of that Ben 649 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: Maller show cult hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? 650 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: Picture if you will? A world will? We chat with 651 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: captains of industry in media, sports and more every week 652 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: explore some amazing facts about a human nature and more. 653 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: Let'sten to the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the 654 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. 655 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: I had mixed emotions coming to work today, longtime friends 656 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: being buried today in Canton, Ohio into college with him 657 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: John Linda Smith, known as Norty, and it was tough. 658 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, you know, I love this job, and you know, 659 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: I know what I'm supposed to do, and I appreciate 660 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: being able to come to work every day. But you 661 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: know part of me that you know, you have that 662 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: uh kind of tug a war that you know I 663 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: should be there. But he's got a great wife and 664 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: uh family and uh hopefully laid to rest, Uh good man, 665 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: John Linda Smith we'll get to phone calls coming up, 666 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: and uh I mentioned Jacob deGrom. You know this situation 667 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: where the umps are now checking, you're being inspected. So 668 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: here's the best picture in baseball. This is what it 669 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: sounded last night with s n Y on Jacob deGrom. 670 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: Today is the first day of increased scrutiny for pictures 671 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: as far as sticky substances on their person. They have 672 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: said that they're not going to delay play. They're going 673 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: to inspect pictures as they come off the bound between 674 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: innings or at the end of their dns. So they 675 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: check to Grom's hat. They say they want to check 676 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: his belt. He said he want me to take it off. 677 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: They said no, they check under the belt and now 678 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: he has passed inspect. See's thank god they didn't go 679 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: that far. Okay, that has to be troubling for the opposition. 680 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Where as great as he is, you're like, yeah, we 681 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: got him. Now he's got some of that whatever tack 682 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: on him, and then you go, no, it's clean. De 683 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Grom allowed one hit over five scoreless innings as the 684 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: Mets beat the Braves. He's allowed four earned runs through 685 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: twelve starts. That's the lowest dra By a starting pitcher 686 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: through their first twelve starts of a season since earn 687 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: runs became an official stat in nineteen thirteen. Here's Jacob 688 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: deGrom On being checked for substances. Yeah, you know, I 689 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: don't know what the impact is going to be, but 690 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: I said, you know, what all do you guys need? 691 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, a glove, hat, and belt? They said, So 692 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: I handed on that stuff and then I went along. 693 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: My it's the new license and registration when you get 694 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: pulled over, That's that's what it is. With the arms 695 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: A give me your hat, glove and belt. Yeah. See, 696 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I wonder if next time they'll only check the hat, 697 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: glove and belt again, or they're gonna change it up 698 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, like, yeah, let's see behind your ears, 699 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: because we know you thought it was hat, belt and glove, 700 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, where are you hiding it? Yeah, Paul Johnny, 701 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: is time for the third ending body cavity seichasty cakes. Yes, 702 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: and this really speeds up the game. So what they're 703 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: gonna put runners on second and third and extra innings? 704 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: How are they gonna make up the difference when they 705 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: keep stopping to look at pictures? All right? Phone calls 706 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: coming up? Uh, let's see where do we want to go? 707 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: A lot of people want to touch on the NCAA. 708 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: Nick in Ohio, Hey Nick, what's on your mind today? 709 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, how's gonna go up? For your loss as well? 710 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: But thanks for putting on such a great show every day, guys. 711 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: UM so obvious solution for the college athletes making money 712 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: off their own name, image, likeness, and I think it 713 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: could be as simple as uh student kind of forfeiting 714 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: their own scholarship to make their own money. This way, 715 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: they're kind of betting on themselves. And the people that 716 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: say college scholarship is enough can be satisfied too, because 717 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: the scholarship is enough for many of these players. But 718 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: then the great players can make the money that they 719 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: deserve and you know, pay for their own schools part 720 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: of these endorsement deals. All right, well, thank you, Nick. 721 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how many athletes are going to be 722 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: able to cash in on this now. I don't know 723 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: if this is a situation where let's say, a card 724 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: dealer in Tuscaloosa says to the starting offensive line, I'm 725 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna take care of you, guys. You're going to get 726 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: paid twenty five thousand dollars in appearance fees. Well, that's 727 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: still not covering your scholarship there. And this is where 728 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. If you have let's say you have 729 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: a billion dollar booster. Money doesn't matter to him, and 730 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: he says, hey, I want to get these recruits. I 731 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: want them to come to this school, and I'm giving 732 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: you five hundred thousand dollars each and I'm gonna have 733 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: you do appearances. Is there going to be a cap 734 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: on this? That's what I don't know, Like how much 735 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: can you offer? What if Gatorade says, I want to 736 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: sign up Trevor Lawrence five million dollar deal. What if 737 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: Nike says to Zion Williamson, we want to give you 738 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: your own shoe your freshman year at Duke. You're gonna 739 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: be on display thirty games and we're gonna get you. 740 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna get you into the fold early. We're gonna 741 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: give you Jordan Brand. Mike's going to be involved in it, 742 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: although Mike, being a Carolina guy, probably wouldn't love that. 743 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: But you know, so, I don't know what the cap is. 744 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: And then you know tax ramifications here. Some states are 745 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: going to allow this, some aren't. It's just there's there's 746 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: gray area here. Yeah, se a guy like Zion's going 747 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: right to the NBA. Now, Yeah, so with the new rule, 748 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: there's no you would don't even never really have to 749 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: worry about that. He could just get a sneaker whenever. 750 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: But let's say was implemented, it was in place when 751 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: Zion was a freshman at Duke. I'd just be curious, hypothetically, 752 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: what's he going to make? 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