WEBVTT - The Avery Rule Game with Sean Avery | 2008 Eastern Conf. Quarterfinals: Game 3 Devils vs. Rangers 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.480 How the fact did they write that overnight. That's an amendment. 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.160 I've never read that, not an a amendment. That is 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.640 your amendment, dude. Everyone hated me so much. I mean 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.040 I was out of control. That is the wildest thing 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.880 I've ever read. Holy, I see another loophole to a 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.520 loophole somewhere. I mean, I just dude, you guys just 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.520 saw my brain explode on here. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.200 Welcome to Games with Names. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.120 I'm Julian Edelman, and there Jack and Kyler, and we're 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.160 on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.320 And on today's episode, we are covering Devil's versus Rangers 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.800 Game three of the two thousand and eight Eastern Conference 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:43.440 Quarterfinals aka the Averrul Game, with actor and NHL legend 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.000 the Avery rule maker, Sean Avery, and we get into 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.320 talking the origins of this infamous Avery rule. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.760 So like, I was so far up this guy's ass 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.720 that he wanted me death, he would not have shed 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.000 a tear. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.280 It's incredible, Brett Hole story. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.840 My buddies had left these pot brownies in the fridge 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.880 and he ate three of them, just like threats. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:05.920 In the walking closet. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.000 He's been doing snow Angels since like four in the morning, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.880 and then acting in the Christopher Nolan movie A Nolan said, 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.960 there's no cell phones generally, I black out. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:17.600 I don't remember. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.840 Yeah, it's kind of like like playing for Belichick. Yes, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.679 a direct parallel and on today's Chill Zone presented by 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.759 Corps Light, we're hitting the old hotline, or you could 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:32.760 say the cold line to answer some of those voicemails. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.480 You gotta stick around for it, So let's go, let's go. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.320 Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.959 April thirteen, two thousand and eight, Madison Square. I got 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.200 New York, New York tied one to one. The New 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.600 York Rangers have a two man advantage. Call it tactics, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.080 call it antics, call it effectively. In the end, I'll 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.840 never see anything like this. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:14.640 This is the Avery rule game. Welcome to Games with 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:15.640 Names Today. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:20.040 We are looking at Devils versus Rangers, game three of 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.799 the two thousand and eight Eastern Conference Final quarterfinals, that 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:30.840 Avery rule game with the one and only Sean Avery. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.560 Sean in one sentence, why this game? 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.760 I went to bed, I woke up in the morning 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:39.920 and they had changed the rule. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.800 Is this the greatest game of all time. It's my 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:43.640 greatest game. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:48.880 Yeah, yeah, if I could, maybe, if I may, if 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.919 I may, Yes, I put a I put a hell 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.760 of a game on the board that night. I mean 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.560 they yeah, wild wild, the whole thing is fucking wild. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:57.880 It is it is. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.400 Let's jump into what's what's life looking like these days 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:01.640 for you? 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:02.359 Oh? 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.040 Boy, these days? You know, I was thinking about that 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.920 this morning. Life is quite beautiful. Yeah, it's a good, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.200 it's a good. I just did a I'm an actor now, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.359 I guess I can say. You know, four years ago, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.560 i'd say I'm an actor, But are you really an actor? 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.600 You know, like actors say they're actors. But if you're 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.360 not a working actor, you're not an actor. Yeah, that's 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.639 that's my You're not a football player unless you're on 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:28.400 a football team. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:29.880 I'm an aspiring actor. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:30.640 You. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.080 By the way, you're airwaves right now. I mean you 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.600 dominate commercial land on Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Thursday. Well, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:44.480 there's commercial actors. There are commercial actors. I would rather 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.320 not be a commercial actor. What kind of actor are you, Sean? 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.120 I'm a Thespian. I'm a Thespian. Although I just did 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.200 Happy Gilmour too. So how is that? 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:56.000 Oh man? 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:01.360 I mean listen, Sandler is is like God, he really is, 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.600 you know, to anybody. Yeah, they have a bar on set. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.040 They they are not woke. They are woke no more. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.400 I will say that movie is going to be funny 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.720 and they're going hard. They're going hard, and everyone's in it. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:22.280 Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny. Yeah, Kelsey, Kelsey, did you see 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.359 him on set? I saw Bad Bunny. He's shorter than 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.280 that big short, not that big. I didn't even know 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.360 it was him. Yeah, I mean I had to ask. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.560 It was like a crossover in a fitting, and I 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.960 said I could tell he was somebody. Yeah, you know, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.839 he's got swaged to him. But when they told me 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.440 Bad Bunny, I was like, wow, he plays a well 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.680 I don't want to say he plays yeah. I shouldn't 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.559 really so, but Sandler's the man. I mean, that guy's 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.680 been making movies on his own schedule about things that 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.840 he was that he wants to to make for like 0:04:59.040 --> 0:04:59.919 twenty five years. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.880 That's the dream. That is the dream. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.000 And uh, you know I think that that's like a 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.440 one off. Is am I a comedic actor? You know, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.640 maybe at some point, but right now I'm a guy 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.760 if you give me a gun. Although I play a 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:20.479 weatherman and Oppenheimer, but I'm a soldier, so that's my niche. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.200 Right now, you're so you're type castid as a soldier. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.960 I like to play soldiers CIA FBI. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.760 Yeah, Now do you want like when when when you're 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.160 taking a role like this, when you're the weather man 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:39.200 in Oppenheimer, which freaking see Sean and Oppenheimer and give 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:44.000 people some context. Sean lives in my daughter's neighborhood. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:49.040 Yeah, and uh, your daughter Lily takes care of my son. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.400 Now metaphorically, you know, they watch out for each other 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.120 and watches out for Nash. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.039 And and Sean's kind of like the neighborhood watch. So 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.440 you know, I'm sitting here the first time. I'm walking 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.320 up the street one day with my partner and we're 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.560 you know, we're having a discussion. I had to take 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.599 a phone call. Is the first time ever I never 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.520 met Sean. And this guy is sitting on a stoop 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:14.400 of this this. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.000 Street, not even my house, it's not even his house, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.320 and he goes, hey, you you don't. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.120 Work out or something or I don't know what what 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:21.680 did you say? 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.279 I said, Uh, I think I asked you if you've 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:25.400 stopped working out? 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.320 Yeah, he goes, you stop working out? I look over. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.760 I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? And he goes, 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.800 you're looking a little out of shape or something. I'm like, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:34.680 who the fuck are you? 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.920 Yeah, and he's like, would you say I'm Sean Avery? 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.200 I think I said, hey, Julian, I know who you are. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.520 I'm Sean Avery. He used to play hockey. But I 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.839 knew your buddy. Yeah, I knew the guy you were with, right, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.320 so that kind of yeah, I neighborhood watch. I was, 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.000 I'm just taking a keeping an eye out on the street, really. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:55.000 You know. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.040 And then we introduced each other, and we've seen each 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.640 other around the block a bunch because it's a cool 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:04.440 little street that has neighborhood parties and Halloween's fun yea, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.240 and uh fucking Sean is just a funny guy. And 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.880 then all of a sudden one day I look and 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.160 I look at TMZ. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.560 And I'm sitting there. I was like, is that fucking 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:15.680 right by my daughter street? 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:21.600 And Sean, I'm like, neighborhood watch patrol on the goddamn streets. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.200 Had to get some guy out of what is the 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.080 red zone. Yeah, they're in a red zone. You know. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.160 I'll tell you quickly, I can. I can make this quick. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.000 When I got traded from the Detroit Red Wings to 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:36.800 la Growing up, my parents loved Crosby Stills, Nash and Young, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.040 and when I got traded l A, I was like, Oh, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.320 I'm gonna live in Laurel Canyon. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:42.160 Like fuck it. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.800 I had no idea where Laurel Canyon was in relation 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.640 to Staples Center El Segundo, which is where the practice 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.480 rink was. So I moved to Laurel Canyon and did 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.119 a reverse commute. Everyone thought I was crazy, But Laurel 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.760 Canyon is is is. It's its own thing, it's its 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.840 own world, it's its own vibe for the last hundred years. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.840 When I got traded to New York and then came 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.480 back pandemic, it was like, we got to go to 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.080 Laurel Canyon. So yeah, that's sort of the I have 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.720 a long history with the neighborhood. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.320 Hey, the neighborhood appreciates the neighbor. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.400 It's so funny getting back, how do you so when 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.920 you're when you're watching or when you're taking a role 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.320 as your soldier FBI, CIA or whether man, how do 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:31.240 you prepare for these things? 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.920 Are you are you watching? Are you doing ride alongs? 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:39.400 Are you doing research? What's your preparation process for your acting? 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.839 I guess it's it's different depending on who you're working with. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.760 Like I've done two Christopher Nolan movies. I did Tenant 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:50.520 and then I did Oppenheimer. You know Tenant, which is 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.600 an unbelievable movie that you need to watch eight times, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.840 maybe sixteen times to try and understand like what's actually happening. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.040 And you don't get to read anything really before the 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.000 script is on Super Super Lockdown. You get to read 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.640 it once, you know, prior to the job, and then 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.640 you get your sides the night before your scenes. Usually, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.280 so with Nolan, you don't really know what you're doing. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.440 Like on Oppenheimer, I had no idea what I was 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.520 doing because they also give you dummy sides, So when 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.240 you audition, they don't give you the sides the scene 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.000 that you're actually going to play in the movie. They 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.800 give you something similar from a different movie, So you 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.319 have no idea what's happening. You can't really figure out. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.880 You got a general idea, you know what I mean, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.400 I haven't yet and This is like the evolution of 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.840 you know, starting off your career, your first couple of seasons. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.040 I haven't got something that is a lot of reps yet. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.120 You know, I'm not a regular on a TV show. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.560 I've done a lot of movies now, but you know, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.560 movies are like two three weeks and then you're out. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:05.480 So hopefully that comes, you know, I'd like to, but 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:10.199 I want to also play like a a horticulturist, A 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.240 what like a guy that knows plants? You know, I 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.800 want to do weird shit A plant guy. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.680 Yeah, I like that. Yeah. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.760 See he brought that in because I was showing him 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.800 my plants. Yeah, really, I'm a plant guy. I didn't 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.679 I don't know the scientific term for and by the way, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:26.240 you don't need. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.760 To, but it's a good what is that word? You're 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.640 gonna make me say it again? I got it out once? 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.120 Pretty good horticulturalist. And now where'd you get that word? 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.319 Would you pull that from? 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:36.640 You know? 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.920 Listen, I do these fucking auditions and all these words 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.079 I had to audition. 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.199 Yeah, I had one audition once. Yeah, I had to 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.600 do a sex scene with the guy over zoom. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:55.680 First audition ever, Oh wow, Like for real. Yeah, and 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:56.640 I couldn't. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.120 I couldn't. I couldn't get in the zone. 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.480 That's the stupid thing anybody has ever done, made anyone do? 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:04.320 What would you do? 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.280 It wasn't like a six scene. It was like I 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.839 was like with a female, but the guy. It was 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.480 a guy. I'm the first time one ever doing this 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.960 stuff and they're put me in this situation. Clearly didn't 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.640 get the role. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, who got it? 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:22.000 I don't know. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.120 I have a list in my garage of people that 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.120 have gotten roles that I should have got that I'm 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.440 gonna tell them one day. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.720 You remember that role? Who's on that list? 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.040 He's sort of like a good looking blonde hair it's 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.560 like a California guy. What the hell is his name? 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:45.000 He was in White Lotus not it'll come to me, 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.520 But you know there's a list. Yeah, you didn't have 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:54.679 a list in college. Never, No, Sean, I didn't. What 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.040 is it happy? Billy? 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.360 Does he have a list? Yeah? And Billy does Billy. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.160 Steve Buscemi he had the Adam called him and I'm 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.319 glad I called that guy. Yeah. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.080 So there's specific movies I've done. I did a movie 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.960 called Amsterdam with David o' russell directed, and I have 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.520 like a I have a walk and talk with Christian Bale, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.880 and then I have to utter a racial slur to 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.520 Chris Rock. And I got the sides that morning because 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.880 of Russell's notorious he kind of rewrites scenes as he goes. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.040 I'm not at that point. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.120 I was not a seasoned enough actor to get sides 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.040 the same day. Okay, now I could, I could, I could, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.640 just I could get it. So that movie, if you 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.679 go and watch it, that was a full day. I 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.240 have no recollection of the day whatsoever. I think like 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.960 I blacked out probably twenty minutes in. I didn't know 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:56.240 any of my lines. Christian Bale. Christian Bale, Okay, he 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.760 didn't know who I was. He had no idea who 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:00.760 I was. He didn't know that I used to play 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.520 for the Rangers or any of this shit. He thought 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.520 I was an actor. That fucking guy walked me through 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.480 that day just at lunch, ran my lines with me. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.280 I had no idea where I was or what I 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.680 was saying. It was the worst experience ever. And my 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.800 buddy was a producer and he got me the audition 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.280 and and the whole thing. I thought it was over. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.000 I thought it was done. So there's times that I've 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:31.800 had where like I don't even remember certain days because dude, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.040 it's not like putting a helmet on and like we 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.760 can just do that in our sleep. Yeah, this is 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:41.079 so fucking high stakes and stressful. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.360 I think, well, we used to do that in that environment. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.800 But it's something we're comfortable and we've been doing our 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.920 whole life. You're jumping in and you're a rookie in 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.920 this world. Yeah, so it's different. Which Christian Bale taking 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.920 the time out of his day to work with a 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.240 new actor who doesn't know that's just straight leaders shit. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.160 Be fucking cool. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.200 You know, Like there's a lot of guys I'm sure 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.280 that don't do that but that, but. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.520 You hear the cool stories about Christian Bale. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.120 The big boys, the big boys, just like you know, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.199 you or Tom or whoever it was, at what point 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.800 on what team these guys like Bail knows, Dude, I 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.480 don't want this kid to suffer. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:22.640 I want to get out of here. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.800 Let's get a great scene, let's win and get the 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:26.360 fuck home. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:26.960 You know. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.800 So he did everything. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:35.240 I mean I've I at one point during a take, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.720 I just I was like, ohly, fuck Sean. I said 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.080 that to myself and I could see you in the 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.760 corner of my eye. Bail was literally like at this point, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.040 kind of like on the ground laughing, and all I heard. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:52.000 And I don't know if David o'russell is an incredible director, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.000 but he's had some savage, savage moments on the internet. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.520 He's yelled at actors before in a legendary way. And 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:03.640 all I could hear was him from somewhere behind video village, Sean, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:11.040 just keep talking, say anything, just keep talking. And at 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.680 that point I realized, yeah, because there's more cameras. So 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.600 even if I keep talking, I don't bails on the 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.280 on the ground laughing right now. Now I really ruin 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.920 the scene. They can't get anything from him. So it's incredible. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.280 It's like, you know, Pete Burg. Pete put me in 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.920 my first movie, and I think he knew what I 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:36.120 was doing, because like it was Patriots Day with Wahlberg 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.760 and I and I mean my mind exploded. There's two 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.000 hundred people on set, they go action, and all of 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.560 a sudden, it's like, holy fuck, you gotta go. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.760 Yeah, I felt that. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.320 I remember the first day I did TV, and it's different, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.200 but it's it's similar because you're playing a personality and 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.840 you have and you got to perform when the red 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.920 light's on. Yep, and no one tea. There's no handbook, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.960 there's no nothing. You have to just belly up and 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.320 be able to do it. And it was like very 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.880 I had so much anxiety. It was like stepping out 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.280 of my comfort zone so much. Yeah, that I know 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.760 exactly what you're feeling. Which the biggest part of why 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.760 I don't like to get into acting is because. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.480 The line remembering. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.720 And then I don't want to be the liability on 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.280 set because you know, I don't want to waste people's time. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.760 And it's such a fucking team thing, you know, with 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.280 the teamsters, the camera people, the producers of this guy. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.000 And you got some slapnick that doesn't know his fucking line. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.080 He's get nervous. So that I understand that anxiety you have. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.960 Yeah, it took me. It took me eight years to 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.720 be able to do it. I swear to god, it 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.520 took me eight years. I stopped playing and I don't 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.960 even know twenty thirteen. For eight years, I just learned 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.360 how to memorize lines. Yeah, like that's something you had 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.400 to do. How many fucking routes do you have to 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.520 run a lot? It just gets into that, like and 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.240 now I feel in my head, I feel my brain 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.720 is different, you know, I can feel like there's weight 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.760 in different areas and it kind of feels good. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.159 You figure it out, You figure out like what to 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:15.040 remember key things. Yeah, yeah, mean yeah, yeah, cheat, I 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.479 can cheat now. Now you're from Canada, you grow up 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.000 playing hockey. He went to school until you were sixteen, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.440 because the whole hockey thing, you guys leave school and 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.280 are uneducated. And I played and hung out with a 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.880 bunch of hockey guys. Where the fuck did this acting 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.639 interest come from? Did you have acting interests as a 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.359 kid or when you started playing? 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:36.359 Where'd this come from? 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:36.560 No? 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:37.560 We always thought. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.800 I mean, my mom put me in a drama camp 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:45.280 when I was six, and she said I lasted like 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.720 half a day and she had to come and get me. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.800 And that was and I sort of vaguely remember it. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.360 I remember like the gymnasium the church area of Toronto 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:57.239 that this camp was at. I had PTSD from it. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.760 And I always thought guys that act did in high 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.800 school and stuff were kind of like, you know, the 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:08.840 wimpie kids. Yeah, Thespians. Yeah, Thestipians were a little bit weird. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.320 Yeah, that's just fun. Bro. I didn't know them, I 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:12.200 didn't hang with them. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:18.040 Yeah, but then you realize it's art, and what we 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:19.920 did as athletes was art. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.639 It's just a little bit more not. According to Meryl Streep, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.320 oh really yeah, she said she called out football in 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.200 UFC after getting an award one, saying, you know, most 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.119 America likes to watch athletes and that's barbaric and stuff. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.600 They don't think that, you know, moving like a ballerino 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.640 when someone's about to take your fucking head off his art. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.400 I guess. Yeah. It just has a one way beef 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.840 with Meryl Streep and Ben Affleck. What did Ben do? 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.280 Ben just was talking to sit on ESPN that the 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:51.199 Patriots den receivers while I was there. Just squashed it. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.400 There's no real beef. I just talked about it on here. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:56.679 We had Casey on. We talked about it here. 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.400 We talk about it Casey Casey like a Boston guys like. 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:05.680 Whatever, fuck it? Well, what do you mean? Whatever it is? 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.000 I would have it's more of a hype thing. Well, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.359 now I have a beef with Ben Affas right. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:13.880 Like that, and I'll be on a set he I'll 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.920 be on one of his movies at some point. Yeah, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.800 I'm gonna pull him aside and go listen. I think 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:22.639 we should address this whole Jewel situation like this right 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:28.119 totally out of nowhere. He probably doesn't even know about it. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:33.840 Well he does, he will soon enough. I think they're 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.760 making the Pete Rose movie, which I have already. Well, 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.760 I will need soldiers, weathermen. Yeah, Pete baseball player. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.520 Charlie Hustle. Yeah, you should. 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.760 You're gonna audition for Pete? No, no, no, no, I 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.040 think that should. Chris Pratt should do that. Or or Wahlberg. 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:51.480 I don't know. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.879 It depends what age they have them. Wahlberg would be 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.560 a great Pete Rose he if he yeah, the same 0:19:58.600 --> 0:19:59.400 body type two. 0:19:59.480 --> 0:19:59.680 Yeah. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.760 And Mark can look like a thirty five year old easy. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:07.119 It's crazy. He's like almost he's he looks young. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.840 He looks great, its healthy, he does you know he 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:16.080 got into the you gotta no so you did the act. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.119 I used to do. I used to do all the 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.439 school junior high play. I read that somewhere. 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.840 Yeah, I used to love doing I did Crazy Camp 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:24.880 Bye Bye Birdie. 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:25.920 Uh. 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.480 And I would always I loved getting a laugh out 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.960 of the audience right when I was a kid, so 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.960 I would be terrible. I remember my lines, but i'd 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.119 always improve a little something, and I just loved that. 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.520 Yeah, but but hold on, I can let's just address 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.320 I don't know if you guys have talked about it. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.520 I watched the Brady Roast, all right, I understand that's 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.439 a blackout moment too. By the way, I'm sure some 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.320 of those guys did not remember anything that they said 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.639 when they got up there, like some of the athletes probably. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.960 There were a couple of guys looked like they were 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.960 just not there. Yeah, like they had left their own bodies. 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.040 You fucking nailed that. But you went and did a 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.440 couple of nights. I did the Store Store. Yeah, that's acting, 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.240 I mean improv you know. I think all these great 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.600 actors have the ability to just kind of like any 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.760 of the Tarantino stuff. Those guys are riffing that DiCaprio 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.639 scene and once upon a time in Hollywood when he 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.080 fucking rips the trailer apart. Yeah, those those lines weren't written. Yeah, 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.760 so you're on stage doing your thing, Like there's a teleprompter. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.520 Oh you used teleprompter. Not at the store. No, the store, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.919 I read off paper, right. I didn't make eye contact. 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.720 I was so scared you didn't. I was fucking terrified. 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:42.680 You still killed though. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.000 It was the first time, and it was like it's 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.280 more intimate at the store, like you're at the or 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.640 was it at the forum Forum? When you're at the forum, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:52.840 there's ten thousand people, And the people I saw were 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.000 people I knew, right, you know, at the tables and stuff. 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.560 I went to this. I went to the store. It's intimate, 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.840 like sixty people. Thank god. There was like a group 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.919 of fifteen like frat boys that loved football that I 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.359 could say anything and they were gonna laugh, right. But 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.560 I was like nervous, shaken up there. Like that's tough 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.399 for like anytime you do something new, Yeah, you're stepping 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:16.360 out of that comfort zone. 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.440 It was tough. Yeah. I prepared for that shit. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.680 I go to the store sometimes in the belly room 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.600 and I and they let me just I just go 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.200 in and like do a set. What do I don't 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.440 have anything. I just do crowd work. I just make 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.639 fun of people in the crowd How does it go? 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.520 A couple you know, I've done it like four or 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:37.639 five times. A couple of times it's gone, well, a 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.760 couple of times it hasn't. Hasn't you get did you 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.560 get anyone under anyone's skin? 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:44.399 Yeah? 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:49.160 But yeah, crowd work is like that's improv. Yeah, because 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.000 you gotta move, you gotta just you gotta work off. Yeah, 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.359 that's the type of comic I love. I love crowd 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.439 work guys. Yeah, you're you're really great on it. I 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.240 mean you display it on Instagram through your story in 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.000 your TikTok you said you broke the algorithm. 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.639 So it's a lot of improv work. When you're doing 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.760 live games making fun of guys with an eraser whatever, 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.200 you have a pencil, an eraser, the pointer. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.440 The pointer. So that are you working your improv while 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.000 you're doing that as well? Yeah? 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.000 Absolutely, So you're working. That's work, that's time on task. 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.399 Oh it's not free. I mean, no one's paying me 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.640 yet except I'm the whole thing bank no o bank. 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.400 I wanted to get into the TikTok Creators program, Yeah, 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:34.280 which is a program that if you meet certain requirements, 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.240 you get into this program. The deeper I got into it. 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:42.560 I realized that TikTok, in my opinion, is like ready 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.040 Player won the movie. Like I think that we're all 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:48.800 going to be living in TikTok soon. You can buy, 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.240 you can sell. There's people making a million dollars a 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.920 year selling candy on TikTok live candy stores. Anyways, long 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.000 story short, I got obsessed with TikTok. They weren't letting 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.600 me and the creators program because they said my content 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.760 was an original, which I couldn't understand because I go, guys, 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.800 I'm I'm basically doing my own play by play. I'm 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.280 making up all these jokes or anything that I'm saying. 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.840 It's my It's as original as you can get. The 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.240 problem was is that the algo, the algorithm, the algo, 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.960 it's based on shapes. So if you go on TikTok, 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.320 you'll see a kid doing a review about the Housewives 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.399 with like call of Duty underneath in this split screen. 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:37.800 Because the algorithm like shapes, it thinks that you're being original. 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.239 So I go, Okay, what the fuck am I going 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.640 to do? I got to solve this problem, Like I'm 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.720 not quitting. I got to figure this out. Yeah, so 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.480 I basically merged the future with the old, and I 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:55.160 went on Amazon and I bought a pointer stick. And 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:59.160 now I do a play by play with a pointer 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.080 stick which is exploding on tict It's. 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:03.879 Gotta be hard to to I see how you. I 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.200 can't see the puck ever, so you're following the puck. 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:06.960 It's good for that. 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:08.200 You like it. I like it. 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.159 They tried to do a glow puck. Fox tried to 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.000 glow the puck. Remember back in the day. It didn't work. 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.080 You can't glow a pocket. Yeah, but you know, it's 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.320 taken me. It's a dexterity game. That word I almost 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.760 didn't get. It's a dexterity game. I had to get, 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.080 you know, depth perception because I got a fucking phone 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:26.840 in one hand. 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.960 I'm sitting on a little, tiny, little kid's chair. 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.000 Yeah, because I got a you know, the screen on 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.480 the phone and the TV screen it's only so big. 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:39.240 So it's it's this whole science. Anyways, the pointer stick 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.760 is blowing up and people love it. And uh, it's 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:47.240 all improv I'm on the fly. I make it fun 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.920 and some jokes and stuff. Yeah, it's funny. I think 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.640 it's entertaining. I'm not a big hockey guy, but that 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:55.879 brings me to hockey. The chick lit dudes bring me 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:56.359 to hockey. 0:25:56.400 --> 0:26:00.399 I have to have pop culture with hockey, right because 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.959 I'm American. You've worked with Nolan, David o' russell and 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.760 Peter Berg. What's unique about their style and who's your 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.280 favorite to work with? Well, so I've made multiple movies 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.959 and Nolan and Nolan. But Pete Burg, who made Friday 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:22.240 Night Lights and Fuck Loane Survivor. Yeah, I work at 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:22.640 his gym. 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:27.720 Chur Churchill your box there, Yeah, tried to Yeah my 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:32.119 ass beat You know, Pete once got me beat up 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.320 by a boxer. I've heard the story a thousand times. 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:35.600 I just did. 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:39.440 Yeah, Chris Chellios. I saw Chris Cellios like three weeks ago. 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.320 He goes, oh, he goes, dude, Pete showed me a video. 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.880 You get I said, he's showing that video he filmed 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.280 me get fucking beat up by a boxer. Can you 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.200 showing our friends? Can you explain this story? I don't 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:52.960 even know. He was like, come down to the gym 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.919 and box. I got a guy for you to box. 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.439 And this was like we're coming out of COVID and 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.320 I I'd been running sixty miles a week and like, 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.400 I now do jiu jitsu, which is great and beautiful 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.000 and it like changed my life. But at that point 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.399 I was looking for some sort of blend of like 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.240 maybe a combat sport. And he brings me down to 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.959 his gym and I got the living shit beat out 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.879 of me by a boxer in his gym. I was 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.840 wearing somebody else's mouthguard. Pete's like kind of a The 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.320 way he teaches lessons sometimes is the difficult way. Yeah, 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.880 I think with certain people tough. He's very He's a director, 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.359 you know he knows and I think when you have 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.120 a director, who's your friend and so. But anyways, Pete, 0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.920 it's fun to make a movie with Pete Burg because 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:41.479 he's like loose. 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:42.560 You know. 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:47.200 There's different sets. A Nolan set, there's no cell phones. 0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.040 Generally I blackout. I don't remember, like, I don't really 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.800 remember much from Oppenheimer. I sat in a car with 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:57.000 Matt Damon and killing Murphy for like six hours. I 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:01.000 have no idea what I talked about, no clue. I 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.720 hope to ask them one day, like, do you guys 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:07.120 remember that? I doubt they will. But but Pete it's 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.320 loose and it's fun and he can he throws shit 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.760 at you. You know, it's like a coach, you gotta 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.639 feel comfortable. Any sets that are fun and comfortable, like 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:18.960 Sandler set is fun. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.120 But there's also different styles of coaching. 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:26.960 Listen, I I prefer the Nolan Asques set when we 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:27.600 made tenant. 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.160 But you got to be there mentally as an actor 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.440 every day, you know. But like I bet you it's 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:37.400 it's for a newer actor. It's on a looser set. 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.520 It's probably easier because the tension. But if you go 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.760 onto a tight ship a Nolan something, you know the 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.920 stakes and you know that everyone's bringing their a game always. 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:49.840 Yeah, it's so juicy. 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.120 Yeah, it's kind of like like playing for Belichick. Yes, 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:54.040 that structure it is. 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.840 I would say that that would be uh a direct 0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:02.320 parallel those two guys. And like the level of efficiency. Yeah, 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.960 we're not here, there's no fucking around, there's no fucking around, 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.800 and every minute is used in the minute. It's productive. Yeah, 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:16.160 by the way, golf collapse for Bill, he's everywhere living 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.240 the life. What do you mean? I mean he looks 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:23.680 like he's having fun. He puzzle tough, Bill, enjoy your 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:25.160 enjoy life. 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:26.720 He's enjoying life, all right. 0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.920 It's so cool. And he's a human. Yeah, we now 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:30.560 see him. 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.840 That's what that's what we we witnessed, right, he just 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.000 very occasionally, Right, let's strip your fucking head off. 0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.880 I played for Scotty Bowman, who I think would be 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.440 the equivalent of Belichick as far as the hockey coach. 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:50.400 And Scotty would come in and he would yell like 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.719 if there was something that he wanted to talk about, 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.239 he would address it in the completely opposite way. And 0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:01.840 it was always mental warfare. Yeah, with somebody in the room, 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.719 like he was a mastermind. You get in the saana 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:10.560 with this guy talk about like, what's your favorite food 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.720 from back home? Like, what do you mean back home? 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.880 Like Canada? I like wieners and beans. You know what 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.920 wieners and beans are, Frankie beans. Yeah, yeah, we call 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:20.880 him wieners and beans. 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:21.560 Yeah. 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.800 He was like the most He was like a gentle giant, 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:25.560 like a teddy bear. 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:25.840 Yeah. 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.880 So that's what I see from Bill now is that 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:29.720 that you know, if you. 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.320 Don't talk to him about any strategic stuff going into 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.239 like a game week and you bring in like a 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:39.040 regular life. He's a regular human, right, breathing air. I 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:43.400 don't have about that yet. I'm still waiting on that. Lastly, 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.040 what's the director you want to work with? Is you 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.360 shot right here? They may watch it? Yes, let's see. 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.920 I'd like to be on an Olivia Wild movie. 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:59.280 O Wild like that? Yeah, see what's popping over there? 0:30:59.680 --> 0:30:59.800 You know? 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:04.560 I mean I'd like to work for a woman. Catherine Bigelow. 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:06.640 Hurt Locker. Yeah. 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:08.880 Yeah, like there's a couple that are I'd like to 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.400 work for for. I've never worked for a woman, yeah 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:17.520 ever in my life really, so it just artistically, I 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.720 feel like it would be like the ReVibe. 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.560 Something would be different. Yeah, it wouldn't be so rigid, 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.360 you know, they could pull a different string from you maybe. 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.600 Yeah, yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, I like that vibe. 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:30.440 Yeah. 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:35.520 Yeah, we need some more girls. We got Leah need 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:40.280 some girls. Well, everybody's you know, coming out of their shell. 0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.360 I think it's it's a fun time. 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:43.600 It is it is. 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.520 Did I smoke it here? You can smoke wherever you 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.360 want of this nut hoouse. Okay, that's what the studio 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:48.840 is called in. 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.800 These Wow, look at this let's go back into time 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.160 around when the game took place. This game took place 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.120 on April thirteenth, two thousand and nine. And we like 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.760 to talk over pop culture. Number one movie prom Night 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:02.440 didn't see it? 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.920 Did you? Or two thousand and eight? Why did I 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.760 say two thousand and nine? I don't just living in 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:12.880 the future, baby, living in the future, I'll tell you movie. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.000 And number one song from two thousand and eight doesn't 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.600 feel two thousand and eight to. 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.440 Me, right. I don't even touch my body. I don't 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:27.800 know how does it go? Jack touch my body? That's 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:28.360 all I remember. 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.680 I went to Maria Carry's concerts first. Really, yeah, wow, 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:35.400 it's pretty cool. 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.840 There's a picture of that somewhere there is. I did 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.560 not see no me either. This is when movie? Is 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:42.960 this the start of movies going bad? 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:48.880 Yeah? Well, iron Man hit theaters. Iron Man hit theater. 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.680 This was the first Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, if you're 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:54.400 not counting Howard the Duck back in like the eighties 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:54.760 or nine. 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.640 I loved Howard Technically, Howard the Duck is the first 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.240 of the shout out. That's like, my parents, let me 0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:02.440 watch that movie. 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.600 Yeah, mine too, And I look back watching that movie, Like, yeah, 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.280 they probably shouldn't have let me watched that movie because. 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.360 Duck is like with a girl tits in a bathtub. 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.960 Yeah right, yeah, something crazy. He was a wild character. 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:14.520 Wild. 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.560 David Blaine sets the Guinness World Record for holding his 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.640 breath for seventeen minutes in four and a half seconds. 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:27.360 I just remember seeing him at Butter on Monday Nights. Butter, Yes, Butter, 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.760 old Butter. People don't know about old Butter. Butter was 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.720 the spot fun. Where is that New York? 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:34.960 Right? 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.280 Yeah, that was past. I never went to Butter. I 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.440 went to like Up and Down. Yeah, it was the same, 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.880 you know it was that Yeah, that group. Yeah, that 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.040 was supposed to be the spot. Yeah, Butter was fun. 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.840 We used to go there a lot. What was life 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:50.640 like for Sean Avery in two thousand and eight? 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.880 Butter too fast? You're just going to Butter way too fast? 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:56.000 Butter. 0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.760 Uh Provocateur. The Beatrice, No, we we we went to 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.600 this place. There was a club in the West Village 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.320 called the Beatrice, in which is the probably the It 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.560 had the greatest three year run out of one of 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:11.839 the best ever in New York. 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:13.480 It was in a basement. 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.160 But you know, you play in New York, Like you 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.719 play on Monday night. You got a Monday game or 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:24.560 Tuesday game in February. The club, the bar, it's it's 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.360 on fire every night every night, especially in two thousand 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.200 and eight, because cell phones still weren't that you know, 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:35.359 you couldn't get that clear shot. Demwa didn't exist. There 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.239 was a lot of things that that we didn't have 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:37.560 to worry. 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.520 It wasn't me. It wasn't me. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.520 It wasn't me. It was the New York City athlete. 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.320 Seemed like, did you see like the Yankees out you see. 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:47.880 Did you live in the city, Yeah, I lived in 0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.759 the city where you live in West Village, I lived. 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.080 Uh No, I lived at Grand and Mercer, which is 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:58.120 like Prime Prime, soho Prime? And No, you never saw 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:06.600 any of the Yankees at uh. Joba yeah Joba yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.040 Joba got out. He was fun like I used to 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.760 see him in Boston. Sometimes he likes to get after 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.520 you get after it. He was around, uh and then 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:19.879 oh the dark night. Harvey Harvey, Matt Harvey. I used 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.200 to see Matt Harvey out a lot. Matt Harvey went 0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.600 out way too much. Let's just say that we'll leave 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.799 that for another time, and I'm not sure what year 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:36.879 watched the Throne came out, but like I remember being 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.600 in the in the studio watching those guys like lay 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:43.520 a track down in like the Submercer which was underneath 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:44.480 the Mercer Hotel. 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:44.919 And so. 0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.080 Twenty eleven you were you were at some of those, right, 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.200 But when did they make it came out? 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.640 Released in twenty eleven? Let me see when they were. 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.799 I think they're so you know, New York was like 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.080 New York's fun, That's that's what was going on. Jay 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.919 Z and Beyonce got married that year. 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.480 Yeah, yeah, twenty ten. It looks like it started a right, 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.239 So it was right around that time. You know, that 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.919 vibe of the city was still going. So Kobe won 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:12.640 his loan. 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.640 Wait wait, in two thousand and eight, you interned at Vogue. 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:18.920 I did that in the summer, in the summer. What 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.480 was up with that? Why'd you do that? 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.960 Like fashion? Yeah? I liked fashion. 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.799 I liked being in the mix probably more, yeah, but 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.000 I also was fucking nuts and like wanted to do 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.040 something in the summer. 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:35.760 Yeah. 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.359 You know, some guys go home and I don't know, 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.120 they build a cabin or a garage, like I was 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.120 in the city. I wasn't leaving. There was no way 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.640 I was leaving. Yeah, the Hamptons, and yeah, I just 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:52.160 dove right in and uh but that was an amazing experience, 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:52.520 you know. 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:53.319 Without a doubt. 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.239 I used to go to I used to go to 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.200 Men's Fashion Week a bunch early in my career, right, 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.400 and just kind of learn it. And then, you know, 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.880 I did collaborations with Joe's Jeans and Pas Jackets just 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.279 because I built those relationships and I did have an 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.160 interest in fashion. I like, I wanted to wear clothes 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:13.360 that I I made. Yeah, you know, and it's it 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.480 was cool, it was fun. I would love to get 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.440 my hands on a pair of those Joe jeans. 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:18.399 I'll get you something. 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.080 They're athletic fit, Yes, they're athletic fit, but you know 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.600 there it's more of it's a good comfy jean. 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.120 I would love to stretchy. They got stretching it. They're 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.839 stretched a little elastine a little. I don't wear jeans 0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:33.640 without a little elast. 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.920 You know what I like. I like the vintage old jeans, 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.919 those already broken in for you baby. Yeah. 0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:43.279 I like those levices yeah, yeah out there and didn't you. 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.360 You kind of invented the tunnel walk, didn't you, He 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.120 claims the game. I've heard this is a high claim. 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.160 So I used to work with like super Dry and 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.920 all these and they needed a picture, and so I 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.960 would I would. I would go to the Patriots like, yo, 0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:00.520 I need a picture on game day, snap me so 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:01.640 I can tag them. 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.399 So you're telling me, well, first of all, then the 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.719 entire NFL should send you a thank you. 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:07.799 Amen, brother, I don't know. 0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:12.680 He's in fucking Kelsey is a Travis Drive. He should 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:16.160 thank you everybody, every every walk that has been done. 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.120 Now that's a hell of a claim. If you're claiming 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.080 that that was you, I believe. 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.279 It's completely me. 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.319 But I was one of the first to be doing 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:25.839 those things because I feel like I used to have 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.000 game day fits. I used to theme ship up hell yes, 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.839 coming in there looking cross eye, looking like a war hero, 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.480 goo themes like yeah. Because when you had home games 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.160 you got to wear you didn't have to wear suit, 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.840 really yeah, you had to wear suit on away games. 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.879 So if it was Halloween, you could kind of lean 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:45.640 into it a little bit. 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.960 What Miles Garrett does well. 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.960 Garrett for the Cleveland Uh Cleveland Browns. That dude like 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.120 gets crazy like a game at one o'clock. I have 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.800 the fucking makeup crew at his house at like five am. 0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.960 So he looks crazy for the goddamn like he's getting 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:00.720 for the Megala. 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.120 You invented the tunnel wall. I don't know if I 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.840 invented it, but I was one of the leaders. I 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.040 was one of the founders, one of the forefathers, one 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.040 of the foe By the way, entrepreneurial, I can't say 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:13.840 that word. That's a tough word to say, but you 0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.640 were then being it right, you. 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.480 Know, that's what That's what the United States of America is, 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:25.200 just a land of entrepreneurs amen, just taking fit pigs. 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.680 And I actually went to a fashion show with fucking 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:32.719 your boy Cohen. Oh Andy, yeah to each other. There's 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.279 a picture. Look at these guys. 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.399 Oh fuck, guys, look like, what is that a Tom 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:39.120 Ford show? 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:39.400 No? 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:44.520 I think it was Jesus, what's the American Ralph flauren? 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.120 No, another one. 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.120 It's not Tom Ford or Tom Brown. No, that's not 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:54.600 Ralph floren No. That wasn't it was, Oh my god, 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.120 another American. It was like, it's a traditional American brand. 0:39:58.160 --> 0:39:59.799 They have. Oh, that's Joseph Aboud, did. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:04.360 You jose who made his suits at a factory in Buffalo. 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:08.680 Yeah, and they had the they had the long shoulder 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.200 for the American man because they're a little boulder. 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:16.040 Joseph Aboud is one of the greatest men's suit American 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.160 men's suit designers of all time. Like he he owns 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.239 that silhouette. Yeah, that's wild. Who's the guy on the right, 0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.520 don't know, but he's handsome. He looks like a buff Diplo. 0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:30.680 He does look like a buff. Sorry, no, he looks 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:36.480 like a u if Diplo wasn't a DJ in the 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:37.120 sports world. 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.360 In two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, Stanley 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.120 Cup champions, the Detroit Red Wings. 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.960 You gotta need Detroit. It was just they were pretty 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.200 good on fire over here. Yeah, they were still ripping it. Uh. 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.680 Two thousand and two is my rookie year. Yeah, they 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.680 they won. Yeah, I mean, what a fucking team. They 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.960 were essentially the Patriots of the NHL. 0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.319 In my opinion, they were. 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:04.719 Yes, why twelve Hall of famers. You're gonna be in 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.560 the Hall of Fame, by the way, I don't know, 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.200 we'll see. Is it a debate, like it's yeah, I 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.200 don't know, and I don't have the regular season numbers. 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.839 Who cares? You had them numbers when it mattered most babies. Yeah, yeah, 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.920 but that's what a lot of people think. Really. 0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:23.200 Yeah, but multiple rings, many rings, I just put them on. 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.120 Yeah, a few of them. Yeah. 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.359 Detroit was was full of legends. And also I think 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:35.560 what's different about like New England Detroit Red Wings original 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:41.480 six teams? So Ted lindsay, fuck they they had Gordy Howe, 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.880 Like the history of that organization is deep. 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.840 But that that history our organization is not that deep. 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.120 We were in nineteen sixty were that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.960 So if we were like a giant or something, that's 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:59.839 who the founding fathers are, like the Giants, the Bears, right, 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.800 those are like the oldest clubs, right, but that's Detroit, 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:05.200 Detroit definitely. 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.160 M VP Tom Brady, MVP Tom Brady. 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.640 What about Ovechkin? This guy, this guy's about to bake 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:11.799 break the record, isn't he? 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.200 Yeah? What are your thoughts? You You played against him? 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:14.400 Right? 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.359 What a gas tank on him? Holy shit? I mean 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.719 he he's unbelievable. He just keeps getting bigger and slower 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.439 and hits harder and shoots harder. Like he's adapted as 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.439 he's gotten older. He's sort of his game is adapted, 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.520 but the end result is all the same. 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.520 He still scores. Is he the Lebron of hockey? Wow? 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.520 Because that's what it's kind of like, he's lasting people 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.239 and he's. 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.320 You're right, you're right. That's a good company. 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:48.560 Yeah, because like Lebron, he's he's still playing at an 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:52.120 insane level and this guy is fucking forty. 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.279 Yeah. Oh, he's doing it big time. 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:58.520 I mean he's possibly going to break Gretzky's record, right, 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.640 He's close. No one ever thought that that would happen ever. 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.080 I mean it was so astronomical, little like like no 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.920 one was going to beat that. Patrick Patrick came the 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:14.120 greatest American born player. I guess at this point he 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.239 was drafted one overall. Where's he from? 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.799 Buffalo area? Northern? Oh he's a Buffalo guy. 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:21.000 You're right, yeah, because he beat up a cab driver 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:22.240 in Buffalo one summer. 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.680 Did that just give you a little that that's like? 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:26.719 Like it? He liked it. 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.560 I mean when I saw that hit the ticker, I 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:33.799 was like, fucking Patty came boy having a summer. That's 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.799 my guy. Yeah, that's my kind of guy. Tobe won 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.600 his last m v P. That's sad. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:44.120 His only his only regular season MVP. That's sick. He's 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:48.720 a lone hated him. He was too good. That's shot. 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.719 By the way, can I take a shot? Are you 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.120 on any networks with Alex Rodriguez? 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:53.719 Let's hear it. 0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:58.040 Wow, Alex is so juicy, He's like purple. I was 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:02.000 watching the finals. You know, these guys get so juicy. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.360 Their heads they're purple. They turn purple and their skin 0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:10.160 gets like translucent a rod bro, take your foot off 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:11.080 the das over there. 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.279 Well, he won MVP this year. He was juicy this year. 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.800 Juicy al MVP, ju Jackie. 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.000 Let's break down these New Jersey's popping out these devils 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:25.680 real quick. 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.959 This was the first year of the Brent Sutter era, 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.759 leading the team for all you Brent Sutter heads out there, 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.759 forty six twenty nine and seven. Finished fourth in the 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:39.040 Eastern Division, second in the Atlantic. They were not a 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.280 real high scoring team here, twenty six out of thirty 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.120 two hundred and six goals on the season, and then 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.400 the other way not that great either. Let up one 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.520 hundred ninety seven, and this was the opening year of 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:53.560 the Prudential Center, famous through the PRU baby down there 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.520 in Jersey shut out eleven times during the season, which 0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:00.279 was a regular season high, and Marty Brodor got his 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.920 five hundredth women this season. Some dude talk, this was 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:07.320 bro Door, This was uh John Madden. 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:12.759 This was this is kind of tail end of that run. Yeah, 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.239 still some guys hanging on from the. 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.600 Yeah, yet White still on there from the three team 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:20.400 con weeks. 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:21.239 Who's killing it? 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.439 I see you looking at this, I see you looking 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.760 at the roster right now, and you're liking a focus 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.000 right now. What's the first thing coming to your fucking mind. 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:32.399 What's what's so crazy is that my feud with bro 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:39.040 Dure was so fierce, fierce terrible, like really nasty and 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.879 mean that I had no idea Brent Sutter was even 0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.960 the coach of the New Jersey Devils. 0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:45.920 That was the first thing. 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.400 I had no fucking clue who the coach was. I 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.200 have no recollection of ever even looking over. 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.239 Look at that, he's doing the math in his head. 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.200 That's the fucking coach. 0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.399 When Sutter was the coach of the Devils that year, 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.839 I had no idea, but like the feud had been 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.920 going on for years, so it was so fucking heated 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.200 anytime we went there, and we called it the Rock 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.560 or they call it the Rock that that rink sucks. 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.799 It's the worst. And it's in Newark, New Jersey, which 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:19.720 is the hell on earth. Basically what started this feud 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:31.520 with burndor that's how we stay in Canada, Brod. My 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:36.799 first game getting traded from LA to the Rangers was 0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:40.840 against the New Jersey Devils in New Jersey and. 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:46.520 It was just like perfect storm, you know, So were 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.080 you pissed that you had to lead LA? 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:48.440 No? 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:49.480 I was so happy. 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:53.399 It was literally like Phoenix rising, like I was being 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.719 reborn and I get to play the first game in 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.840 New Jersey on the road. I'm gonna fucking turn it 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:02.680 on so much. He like, everyone is gonna know who 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.960 I am tomorrow in the New York area and New Jersey, 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.560 which they definitely did right across there. Yeah, it was 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.000 that game. It was like it was like that game. 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.479 And so what started this feud with him? 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.480 I ran him that game pretty fucking hard like, which 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:22.239 is not a lot. It would be like after the 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.800 kicker kicks a field goal if you ran full speed 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.399 and just dropped your shoulder into the kicker and killed him, 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.000 the extra point kicker, not the guy that kicks at 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:38.279 the beginning, Like, what's he called the field goal kicker? 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.680 Yeah, they're both the same guy, they are. Yeah, so 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.200 you go out, you take them out? Was that just 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.640 because you wanted to let everyone know I'm here, I'm 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.759 fucking Sean Avery, I'm arriving to New York. 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.799 It just happened to be. You make it here, you 0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.800 make it anywhere. Yep. Yeah, bright lights, big city. 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.600 Yeah, I can see the city from New York, so 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:02.360 I'm basically there. It just so happened to be the 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.400 most famous winning goaltender of all time, maybe one of 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:09.960 the greatest school well yeah, probably possibly the greatest goaltender 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:10.680 of all time. 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:13.799 Do you still hate him? No, No, you respect him? 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:18.760 Oh yeah, I mean I thank him, fucking yeah. 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:19.439 Yeah. 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.960 He did a lot for me. I mean you need 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.240 players like that on the other side. 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:25.160 Yeah, you got it. 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:29.480 That's there's healthy to have a little hate between teams. Yeah, 0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.400 it's getting too you know, it's too nice to buddy buddy. 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:32.600 Now. 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.120 That makes there's there's a hatred in between the lines 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.399 or on the ice. But there's always a respect once 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.560 you leave. Yeah, you know, we turn into different humans 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:47.440 when you're in there, at least I do. 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:51.160 Well, No I do. I didn't. 0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:56.520 And in this particular situation, what sort of poured gasoline 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:57.200 on the fire? 0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:58.799 Was I took it to? 0:48:59.000 --> 0:48:59.080 Like? 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.840 Uh, I took it to a place that you probably 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:05.239 shouldn't take it to. There were no rules with me 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.359 and bro Durham. Bro Dorr was going through some shit 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:13.480 on his own whatever. It's kind of it's weird, all right. 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:17.000 They called him uncle daddy and there was all this 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.319 weird shit that went on. 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:19.279 Nothing like. 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.000 I think he hooked up with his wife's sister, right, 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.000 I think that's what happened, And. 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:27.800 That was did you let him know that? Yes? That 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:28.920 was part of the feud. 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.160 Part of the feud was was I took it to 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:33.680 a place that it shouldn't have gone? 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.240 So how a lot? So you're you're a big research 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:38.200 guy for your rules. 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.880 You researched other goalies, absolutely, and you you wanted. 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.600 To know everything that made them tick. 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:49.520 I call him touch points that what's what's another touch 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:50.520 point you had with the guy? 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:56.680 If my left winger fucked his sister in junior or college. 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:57.280 I'm sorry. 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.680 I shouldn't have said that, but that I just went 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:03.120 into that sick mode, you know what I mean, Like 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.120 that's what guys say. I'm sorry, you know if in 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:10.600 the NHL at that point in time, like it was, Yeah, 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.720 it was ruthless, it was. It was with certain guys, 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.720 and I played with a couple of guys. Steve Ott 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.120 was also very good at it. You know, we were 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.760 small guys in a big league and you did anything 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:26.759 you could just survive. And it wasn't just you know, 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.480 because we're allowed to do it, and football you're not 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:34.040 allowed to do it. Yeah, you know, you get a flag, 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:37.680 You get a flag right away. Here they don't do that. 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.520 You can, you can. The jarring and the ship talking 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.640 is NonStop. It's NonStop between the benches. Every time a 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.200 guy skates by the bench, it's it's just like it's 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:50.880 like recess with your boys. 0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:54.759 Yes, bro, just always it cracks me up watching you 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:56.239 guys in your behaviors. 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:56.720 Yeah. 0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:00.080 Sometimes it'll be a guy has nothing to do with 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.359 the play and a guy will just be skating like 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.240 you did one time you just hit him. 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:06.799 All they go by is that just like, hey, I'm here, 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:07.640 fuck you. 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.719 No, Yeah, it was, And some of it was like retribution, 0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.799 some of it was you were trying to set it up. 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.880 There's a lot of there's almost a lot of Baseball 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.799 rules in hockey, like that hidden etiquette. There's a lot 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.480 of that hidden etiquette stuff down people. If you're not 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:23.560 a hockey head, you don't understand. 0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:24.000 Yes. 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:28.680 Yes, And actually the culmination of like the game that 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:32.120 we're talking about was it was two or three years 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:36.239 of just this just this bad. When I look back 0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.760 on it, it was really dark, Like I remember it was dark, 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:43.600 like coming back from New Jersey and I my fucking 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:47.440 eye is I got a black eye, My mouth is 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.200 all messed up. I was just in that shithole saying 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.640 terrible things to him like it was a it was 0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:56.280 a real war zone, the Battle of the Hudson. 0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:01.680 Once the adrenaline dropped, the human and comes back out, Yeah, 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.320 and Prob's sitting there like, man, that was a fucking 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.359 Then you got to do it again the next night. 0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:08.840 Yeah, once the tourt all wears off. 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:12.760 Who is one of the guys that you loved getting 0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:16.319 under their skin other than not on this team, just 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:21.200 in your career. One guy that you loved, he circled it. 0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:23.160 I want to get under his dude. 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:25.360 There's well, there's a person on every team, but on 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.080 this team it was David Clarkson. We had some legendary, 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:33.000 legendary battles, legendary battles, and David Clarkson's a bad dude, 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:38.000 you know, says bad things, plays a hard game, very 0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:41.600 very good player. He is fucking mean and tough, and 0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:45.640 he was nasty and you know, he was a little 0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.880 bit bigger than me, but but like he was dangerous 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.799 and I hated I had to take that. 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:53.120 My edge needed. 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:58.120 Aaron Asham a fucking killer, a killer just put guys 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.759 to sleep, you know, like literally put guys to sleep, 0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.359 knock guys out if you fought him. They had some 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.120 bad dudes. Colin White was a bad dude. He you know, 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:11.320 I think on the original play with the first original 0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:16.320 hit with Brodure, Colin White jumps me, like just gloves 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.240 off and there's put you to the ground. 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:18.839 Eight guys. 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.279 What's going on in the dogpile? Is he saying shit? 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:22.160 Oh god? 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.359 Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to fish hook whoever I can 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:29.000 fish hook and get the fuck out of there quickly. 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.200 You know, you're getting smashed on the back of the head. 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.799 Do anything the only thing that's off limits. It's like 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:38.120 one of those unwritten rules. You know right away to 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.280 tuck your hands because we got fucking skate blades. 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:42.040 Yeah what I mean. 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.600 And for some reason, hockey players have a sixth sense 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.920 about that, where you like, that's the one thing because 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.000 you're you're down there, but you're trying to like you're 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:56.520 getting beat up too. Yeah, that's what's crazy the sport, 0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:59.040 Like you're actually allowed to beat people up on the ice. 0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:00.000 It's why. 0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.799 It's gotta be very hard to keep your balance. And 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:05.800 I watch and so I was watching when you guys 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.719 hold yeah, and you you gotta really rotate and keep 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:13.959 your distance. But while you're on fucking skates, that's tough. 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:17.440 Your groins must be very tight. Yeah, it's like catching 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.800 a ball up over the middle. Different I mean, but guys, 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:22.680 not trying to punch me under my gut. Well, you 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.759 get a forearm on the teeth, so you know, but 0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:27.879 a shoulder into the sternum's just as bad. It's it's 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:31.279 it's yeah, yeah, who's the hardest guy to get on? 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.080 Who is the guy that was like, fucking I could 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:37.080 get I could crack any anyone. You could crack anyone. 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:42.440 Except one time when I played in Detroit my rookie year, uh, 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:48.520 Colorado had an unbelievable player, captain winner Joe Sakic, And 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.360 I'm on the bench and Sakic is in front of 0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.239 me lining up for a face off, and I lean 0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:58.080 over the bench and I just start motherfucking him about 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.000 the suit that he wore into the game, because I 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.719 saw him walk in and all of a sudden, I 0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:08.200 feel my jersey pull, like really pull me, pull me 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:11.400 like my dad was pulling me, and fucking yanked me 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.839 down on the bench beside me. And it was Brett Hall, 0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:16.520 who I lived in his garage. Brett Hall is one 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:19.120 of the greatest players of all time. He kind of 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:22.840 looked over at me and said, you will not speak 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:24.960 to mister Sakkik in that way. 0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.279 And I was like, okay, Holly got it. 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.879 And that was And so I never said anything from 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.120 that moment on, I never said a word to Joe Sakic. 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.600 He was he was off limbits, he was off limits. 0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:43.560 He was anointed off limits by someone who you know 0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.240 when he put that on, you were like, okay, because 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.480 Holly would not say that about too many people. 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.680 Yeah, so you lived in Brett Hall's fucking garage. Yeah, 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.279 I used to live in a teammate's house for two years. Really, 0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.360 I just got to say the check and gonna be 0:55:58.360 --> 0:55:58.759 on the team. 0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:05.840 Yeah, above his garage Deerborn. No, sorry, We were in uh, Birmingham, Michigan. 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:11.160 Beautiful Birmingham, Michigan. The house was the jukebox and he 0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:13.440 drove an old Ta Bird and I just had to 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:15.960 start the car in the morning. That was the only thing. 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.280 And you know, he didn't take he wouldn't take my money. 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.120 But yeah, yeah he hit a turned on the fucking eater. 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:24.359 Yeah that's awesome. Yeah. 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.399 And then one night he came home after a game 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:29.160 and I wasn't there, and my buddies had left these 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.799 pot brownies in the fridge and he hadn't smoked weed 0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:37.000 in seventeen years, but he loved dessert. And the next 0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:42.399 morning I started the car. No, Holly and I went 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:45.280 up to the to the their side of the house 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.880 and Darcy's girlfriend at the time, she's like, Brett's in 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.680 the uh in the walking closet. He's been doing snow 0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:55.400 angels since like four in the morning, and I'm like, 0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:58.759 what the fuck? He had no idea. He went home 0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.480 after the game and they're in the fridge and he 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.000 buried like two or three of them. 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.720 And those are the days where you make the butter. 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:09.200 They're so so strong. Dudes. 0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.480 You eat one of those on a plane, you want 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:12.600 to jump off the plane. 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.640 And he ate three of them and was in a hole, 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:17.800 went to Mars the whole thing. 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:22.960 Yeah, Oh, bread Hule, greatest, greatest American great one of 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.320 the greatest goal scores in the history of the NHL. 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:26.800 If you brought him to the moon. 0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.600 In one word, before we move on to the Rangers, 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:34.280 in one word, how do you describe the New Jersey 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.680 Devils Filthy? 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:41.200 I like that they are. They were at that point. Yes, 0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:43.520 filthy could be used in a good manner too, though. 0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:46.240 Yeah, but when you associate it with the Hudson in 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:51.800 Jersey and like dead bodies and shit, all kinds of shit, 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:56.320 you know, I mean, it's true. Yeah, But by the way, 0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.320 there's parts of Jersey I love tenn of flying New Jersey. 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:02.200 I love it. I would live there, you know. There's 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:03.280 some nice parts of Jersey. 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:06.400 Yeah, the New York Giants play in New Jersey, I believe. 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:07.200 Yeah, the Meadowleans. 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:14.680 Yeah, so for the New Jersey Giants, they took a 0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:17.960 ring from me. Hey, that's what I call. I call 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:21.880 the New York Islanders, the Long Island Islanders. That's so funny. 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.439 They aint bad about that. Yes, yes, oh my god, 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:27.880 I don't like it. Jaggie Litz. Jump into the New 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:31.080 York Rangers. Get into these Rangers. Forty two, twenty seven 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:34.680 and thirteen. Tom Rennie third in the Atlantic, fifth in 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:35.200 the East. 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:36.240 Uh. 0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.320 This was henriklen Quiz third season, led the league in 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:40.320 shutouts with twelve. 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:41.480 He was standing on his. 0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.320 Head, third year in a row, making the playoffs. Some 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:48.600 big additions to this roster Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, both. 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:51.920 In Wait a minute, that's why you did Vogue because 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:56.400 Henry Hedrick he was stealing by thunder. He was so 0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:58.800 fucking good looking in those suits. You had to work 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.520 in Vogue. That's the only reason you worked in Vote. Yeah, 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:05.160 you're right, Actually, very intuitive of you. Yes, one of 0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:11.000 the greatest looking men ever in in the world. Just 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:14.000 a stud too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, just a stud. Sorry 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:19.160 for cutting you off. Jam math in my mind. Brother, Uh, 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.160 some other guys on this team. This was Yager was 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:21.640 on this team? 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:21.800 Man? 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:30.240 Yep, oh, he certainly was, dude Jeremi or Yoger. How 0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:32.960 could you explain what he is? This guy? 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.800 He's still playing, He's still playing insane fifty three. 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:40.640 He owns a team in the Czech Republic, yea somewhere 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:46.120 in the Eastern Bloc, one of I mean, oh fuck, 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:48.640 Yog's didn't cut his toenails if he was on a 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:52.439 scoring streak, like he thought that everything was like being 0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:56.600 about grounded and the power in his body. He had 0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.959 the biggest legs I have ever seen. They were so big, 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.520 they were the biggest, you know, like like like a 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:08.640 fucking offensive lineman. But but he could jump his vertical 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:10.560 like an unbelievable athlete. 1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:15.360 Yeah, loved to gamble on football. He just like me. 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.960 He was like he was so cool, you know, I 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:22.720 grew up watching him. He was still firing at this point. Unbelievable, 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:27.439 almost a point a game player. What a player. Yeah, 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:31.000 A real honor to be able to have played with him. Honestly, 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:33.400 he got to play some legends. Yeah, I got some 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:38.000 serious guys that I lucky lucky. Just those old school heads. 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:40.280 You know, those old heads were different, like they were 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:42.640 like because they were in the eighties, so there was 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:47.080 this generational thing that they and some of those guys defected. 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:50.880 They were like actually defectors to the to the US, 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:54.120 and I got them on, you know, not the tail 1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:55.960 end of their career, but at a good point where 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:56.960 they were still firing. 1:00:57.240 --> 1:00:58.160 Yeah. Yeah. 1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:02.480 The Eastern Bloc guys wild. Are they just a different breed? 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:03.160 Yeah? 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:07.840 I mean the Russians are. The Russians are incredible because 1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:12.960 they didn't have heat like six years ago, you know 1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:16.000 what I mean. Some of these guys seriously, they you know, 1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:20.840 at this point, like it was still like Russia. They 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:24.080 didn't go home in the summer sometimes, like it's dangerous 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:26.880 to be a Russian player. Russians are so much fun. 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:31.120 I loved playing with them. Swedes are like Canadians. Checks 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:34.240 are like Canadians, very similar, sort of like a little 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:40.480 gritty and kind of like the well rounded guys. American 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:43.760 guys were starting to come into their own. Palmarra Boston 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:48.880 kid uh, Brandon Dubinsky was fucking out of his mind, Dubie. 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.200 We had some wild dudes on this team. Now you 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:55.080 ever drinking of that Russian gas? Yep, what is it? 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:00.600 I mean they can put it in the car and 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:03.600 the carl start and they just drink it. Yeah, they go, 1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:07.080 oh god hard. But I also played with Russians that 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:11.640 liked like newer new age Russians, and they loved caviar. 1:02:13.320 --> 1:02:19.320 These guys, Russians like rich things. Yeah, they're just because, Yeah, 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:23.480 it's funny. You guys don't play with you. Yeah, Russians 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:27.080 are fucking wild man. We're just straight America. They're better 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:30.840 tooting on this team, a complete wild man, like great guy. 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:35.160 We played so hard too, great player, great player. How 1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:37.240 is Sean Avery as a hockey player? What was his 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:44.800 scouting report? My god, as you get older, you realize 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:49.600 like nothing was ever going to change my game. I 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:54.040 could have been so much better and at what I 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:57.800 did if I just did a little less of like 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:00.400 the one thing that I did, which was just cause 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:03.479 like complete fucking havoc. I guess with me, you could 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:06.000 say that. And even I see people here in LA 1:03:06.120 --> 1:03:09.160 that season ticket holders, I only played here three years, 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:13.280 a long time ago. They go, dude, I loved you 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:17.360 on the team. We had no fucking idea what was 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:20.840 going to happen from game to game, like, and that 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:25.760 was kind of how it was. You know, you didn't know, 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:30.120 you really didn't know, Like if I was, yeah, very unpredictable, 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:36.480 always played hard, but my unpredictableness probably hurt me and 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:40.560 my effectiveness, like in my focus lay twelve years long career. 1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:44.040 Yeah yeah, yeah. What was it like playing in the Garden? 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:46.040 I mean that had to be fucking pretty cool. 1:03:46.280 --> 1:03:46.600 Yeah. 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:49.200 Is that one of the best for the hockey guys, 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:52.920 the hockey world. I mean that's the mecca. It's the mecca, 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:59.840 that's for everything. It's the best for everything, concerts, basketball, boxing, UFCU. 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:00.560 Yeah. 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:05.200 It's built underground, so you like under a building. You're 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:08.760 under a building, You're you're inside of the earth, and 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:12.280 there's energy that that comes with that. Like the building 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:16.520 sort of moves and you can feel you feel like 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:19.800 you're in the center of New York City. Yeah, and 1:04:20.000 --> 1:04:23.480 the Dome it kind of it curves, but it never ends. 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:26.960 It's it's the fucking mecca. And then you walk through 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:29.480 the halls and you see the pictures of like Zeppelin, 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:39.040 Fraser Alley, Republican National Convention, Democratic National Convention, like wild Ship, 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:41.000 that's in and you can feel it in the walls. 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:43.920 It's the best. It still is. It's it's the best 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:46.800 arena in all of sports. I think you ever see 1:04:46.800 --> 1:04:51.240 Billy Juelire. I saw Billy Julie Billy there. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:55.760 I see Fish there, Fish guy. Yeah, Fish plays, Fish 1:04:55.800 --> 1:05:00.480 owns the garden. They've actually sort of Billy handed the 1:05:00.520 --> 1:05:05.080 mantle as far as live acts consecutive nights. Yeah, yeah, 1:05:05.120 --> 1:05:10.280 they'll they'll smash his record. But fucking Billy Joel Long 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:12.400 Island guy, Like what a New York. 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:15.080 I saw the Boston there too. Oh Springstek. I think 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:18.720 that's nice. I'm jealous. That's a show. Yeah, that's a show. 1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:19.040 I love. 1:05:19.360 --> 1:05:21.280 I mean that's but that's when you're in New York. 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:22.080 You gotta see Conny. 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:24.080 It's freezing in February, so you're gonna go to a 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:26.520 goddamn concert. Yeah, you gotta go to concerts indoor. 1:05:26.560 --> 1:05:26.800 Shit. 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:29.320 You can do anything. Go up to Carnegie Hall, you 1:05:29.360 --> 1:05:32.600 can watch like it's it never ends. You go downtown, 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:37.480 go into a fucking k hole with mcaulay culkin for 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:41.520 three days if you want, like, you go anywhere. 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:43.040 You want to New York City right there like that. 1:05:45.120 --> 1:05:49.120 We'll be right back after this quick break. Can you 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:51.920 describe to the football fans. We have a lot of 1:05:51.960 --> 1:05:53.560 football fans, we have a lot of hockey guys, a 1:05:53.600 --> 1:05:54.960 lot of hockey fans as well. 1:05:55.000 --> 1:06:01.320 But the agitator, it would be the cornerback with no 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:06.080 rules whatsoever, Like he would just be able to go 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:10.440 anywhere on the field and talk shit to anybody, including 1:06:10.440 --> 1:06:15.800 the fans, including the opposite team, coaches, fucking trainers, like 1:06:17.320 --> 1:06:21.600 everyone's on limits. Everybody is fair game. And I say 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:24.480 cornerback because cornerback can rove a little bit. 1:06:24.920 --> 1:06:27.320 Is that true? He could what he's sort of rove, 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:28.360 He's like a rower. 1:06:29.040 --> 1:06:31.360 He could be a safety, a safety more like a 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:33.000 safety safety does that okay? 1:06:33.080 --> 1:06:36.440 So like an in box safety that drops out. 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:39.200 So he can kind of go across the field and 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:42.160 Nats can play a little linebacker. They could go outside 1:06:42.200 --> 1:06:43.880 and cover a fucking tight end if they have to, 1:06:43.960 --> 1:06:44.920 if it's man coverage. 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:46.080 Yeah, be a safety. 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:49.040 Yeah, that's the art of the agitator in the NHL. 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:51.800 And there's been some great ones, uh, all the way 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:54.040 back to Kenny Linsman, who they called the Rat. He 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:57.720 played in Boston. Yeah, he was a legend, a legend. 1:06:59.320 --> 1:07:04.200 The DNA of the of the agitator. Somebody generally on 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:07.080 the small side, has a chip on their shoulder. This 1:07:07.200 --> 1:07:11.480 is the serial killer profile of an NHL agitator. Small 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:15.120 definitely the smallest on his team. Growing up, everybody told 1:07:15.200 --> 1:07:19.280 him he wasn't gonna make it. Generally a really good 1:07:19.320 --> 1:07:22.200 skater and has a good mind for the game, but 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:27.320 is also maybe came from a home where everybody didn't 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:29.520 tell each other that they loved each other that much. 1:07:29.560 --> 1:07:33.600 Like it was sort of like like roughneck, rough but loving, 1:07:33.840 --> 1:07:36.240 but but but rough, like a fuck you would be 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:40.120 heard all the time, yeah, or or you know a 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:42.959 lot of passive aggressive stuff like if you didn't play well, 1:07:43.080 --> 1:07:47.280 like you know, it's not okay your grounding, Yeah yeah, 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:52.200 maybe you don't eat tonight, It wasn't that bad. Generally, 1:07:52.360 --> 1:07:57.600 they uh uh, they have to have some flamboyant showmanship 1:07:57.680 --> 1:08:01.240 to them because you take a lot of heat, you 1:08:01.360 --> 1:08:08.840 generally have a target on your back. Yeah and yeah, yeah, 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:10.600 that's kind of that's kind of it. 1:08:10.760 --> 1:08:12.000 Who's the agitators? 1:08:12.120 --> 1:08:15.480 The now that you like that you look and you say, 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:18.120 all right, this kid's a good agitator in the league. 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:21.679 It's really tough to kind of they've changed the rules 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:23.360 so much they've. 1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:27.040 Not flirts with it. Who flirts? Who flirts with it? 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:27.240 Oh? 1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:29.160 You know, no, I can do that. Of course, there's 1:08:29.200 --> 1:08:32.280 still incredible agitators in the league. Uh, the Ka Chuck 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:34.599 kid in Florida who just won the Stanley Cup last 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:38.760 year and his teammates Sam Bennett, who actually, you know, 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:42.240 when I think about Sam Bennett, who's won a Stanley Cup, 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:46.400 maybe multiple Stanley Cups. Now, Sam Bennett is the ultimate 1:08:47.240 --> 1:08:51.719 rat shit disturber. And Sam Bennett fucking hurts people still. 1:08:52.280 --> 1:08:56.320 He hurt Marshan last year. Yeah, with a nasty like 1:08:56.840 --> 1:09:00.519 secret soccer punch. The art of the soccer punch is 1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:02.920 not it's a beautiful thing. And that was one of 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:08.880 the greatest of all time because he masked it the. 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:12.599 Art and did you suspend it after when they replay it? 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:14.760 Yeah, but they the problem was they didn't have the 1:09:14.840 --> 1:09:17.600 right angle he got. He got lucky on that. You 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:20.200 got to be a magician to be an adjectator. Yes, 1:09:20.479 --> 1:09:24.040 so you're David Blaine. Well yeah, some would say of 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:27.479 the game. Yeah, yeah, you know, part of my career 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:31.080 I didn't have two referees, so they brought the second 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.280 refin and that made it tougher. But I used to 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:38.200 I mean, I've shot like I used to shoot pucks 1:09:38.200 --> 1:09:40.120 at refs that I got pissed off at, and I 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:42.160 would make it like I would mask it as like 1:09:42.200 --> 1:09:46.000 a dump in, you know what I mean, so I 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:48.880 didn't see them the icne. Yeah, but it would just 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:52.479 be at you know, neck high and going fucking ninety 1:09:52.479 --> 1:09:53.080 miles an hour. 1:09:53.120 --> 1:09:55.960 You put that thing anywhere you want anywhere? Are you 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:56.920 still good with the stick? 1:09:57.280 --> 1:09:59.320 I haven't. I haven't held one in a while. 1:09:59.360 --> 1:10:02.720 But yeah, if we were playing road hockey, I'd be okay, No, 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:06.639 it wouldn't matter because I would fucking I would smack 1:10:06.760 --> 1:10:09.240 your shins and shit, you know, and I would get 1:10:09.280 --> 1:10:11.400 and I would always have a stick in your armpit 1:10:11.600 --> 1:10:14.960 or in your fucking knee, and you just be like 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:17.840 you wouldn't be able to play. So I would make 1:10:17.920 --> 1:10:22.120 up for my lack of sharpness immediately right away. I'd 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:26.879 go like, okay, just instantly go to agitation. Yes, yes, geez, Jackie, 1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:29.360 continue it up before. 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:31.080 We go real quick, Sean, can we get your mount 1:10:31.160 --> 1:10:32.559 rushmore of agitators real quick. 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:40.439 Yeah, that would be Terry O'Reilly great Boston Bruin love it. 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:49.839 I gotta go, Kenny Linsman, myself, Steve Ott, and Tuomo 1:10:50.000 --> 1:10:53.200 Rutu who was a Finnish guy who was very very 1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:58.559 effective broken English staking in won multiple Stanley Cups, Edmonton Oilers, 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:03.080 New York Rangers as it was fucking legendary. Yeah, those 1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:03.880 are some good ones. 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:08.920 Like I like that. I guess before we move on 1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:09.519 to the game. 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:13.160 That's the teak in it too, Like wild names in hockey. Yeah, 1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:15.240 I think we have a kool Aid now. Oh yeah, 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:17.080 fell there's or something. 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:20.400 What's his name kool Aid mcinstry, Yeah, Ray Rays names 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:21.679 coming laid. 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:25.120 A sick fool name is yule Ad. Wow. 1:11:25.640 --> 1:11:28.640 Wild that's cool. He needs a deal, baby, get him 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:31.280 a deal with kool aid man. Yeah right, popping through 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:33.720 the wall? Baby, who's the team asshole? This team? 1:11:33.760 --> 1:11:40.960 Were you the team asshole? Yeah? I mean that's funny. 1:11:40.960 --> 1:11:44.160 I'm like looking to see him. That's a bigger asshole 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:44.479 than me. 1:11:44.680 --> 1:11:47.479 No, No, I was the team asshole. 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:47.840 You know. 1:11:47.960 --> 1:11:51.800 Brandon Shanahan number fourteen, who Shanny was the reason that 1:11:51.840 --> 1:11:53.920 I got traded to New York because I had played 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:58.000 with him in Detroit. Shanny's now the president of the 1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:02.439 Toronto Maple Leafs. He's like, you know, Hockey Royalty, multiple 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:04.639 Stanley Cups, gold medals for Canada. 1:12:06.240 --> 1:12:08.439 Shanny was my babysitter on this team. 1:12:08.840 --> 1:12:13.320 Like, Shanny was the guy anytime I did something and 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:16.479 I went too far, he was the guy that I 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:18.559 would get a call and I'd have to meet him 1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:23.680 at Nello's which is uptown, like seventieth in Madison. It 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:26.479 was like going to see the Grandfather, like sitting down 1:12:26.560 --> 1:12:29.320 outside on a patio or inside if it was it 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:32.600 was wintertime, and his legs would be cross. He'd be 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:35.880 doing a crossword puzzle and he would just like tell 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:39.960 me that I fucked up and that I need to 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:43.160 be better, you know, and he would guilt me into 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:45.040 into like recorrecting. 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:47.759 Yeah, he had every once in a while. Yeah. Yeah. 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:51.120 Do you remember a specific time that you got called 1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:53.600 into the Godfather's office uptown? 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:55.400 Yeah? 1:12:56.080 --> 1:13:01.560 It was actually so good. I was playing in LA 1:13:01.920 --> 1:13:05.559 and we had our all star break and he told 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:07.800 me to fly to New York because he needed to 1:13:07.840 --> 1:13:11.360 sit down and vet me before they pulled off the trade. 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:15.240 And then two weeks so I went, and two weeks 1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:18.000 later I got traded to New York. That was like 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:21.439 the first that was like the real that was like 1:13:21.640 --> 1:13:25.040 being accepted into the family moment. But I, you know, 1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:27.360 I knew Shanny. We had played together, we were close. 1:13:27.560 --> 1:13:32.600 But and then before our first playoff game that we 1:13:32.640 --> 1:13:34.360 ever played together, and. 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:39.559 We were at Nello and I was so fucking nervous. 1:13:39.600 --> 1:13:42.000 It was my first playoff game in New York at 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:47.480 the Garden, and he was so calm. He was so calm, 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:50.280 and I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? 1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:54.080 Aren't you nervous? He goes, No, I left my three 1:13:54.120 --> 1:14:00.640 Stanley Cup rings at home. Okay, I just kind of 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.599 like follow that lead of you know, that's what they have. 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:06.920 They have that common presence. That's but I was out 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:09.200 of control on this team for sure. Now, so he's 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:11.000 a legend on the team. There's a bunch of legend 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:13.519 on this team. What was that dynamic in this locker room? 1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:17.120 Like was it a chill locker room? Were you guys close? 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:18.320 What was that dynamic? 1:14:18.640 --> 1:14:18.880 Yeah? 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:22.400 So even like the locker rooms at MSG, they have 1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:26.840 a vibe. It's like it's like going into so hard 1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:30.519 to explain because the Knicks locker room is attached to ours, 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:34.200 so like we all have the same door and they 1:14:34.280 --> 1:14:36.080 just go to the right and we go to the left. 1:14:36.080 --> 1:14:41.120 So when we get changed into our underwear before the game, 1:14:42.000 --> 1:14:45.080 we are in a Knicks locker like I would be 1:14:45.080 --> 1:14:49.439 in Stephan Marbury's locker putting my We call it getsch 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:54.000 It's like our the stuff we heard. Yeah, so that 1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:59.519 locker room has this uh it's like walking into a 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:03.719 sacred ground, like a hollowed room. It has this vibe 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:07.559 to it, unlike any other room, I know, beautiful locker rooms. 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:11.800 You guys had one the jets, you see that. 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:12.639 This was a thing. 1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:16.120 So like the music was a vibe, and we had 1:15:16.160 --> 1:15:18.720 a lot of Europeans, so we only listened to like 1:15:19.280 --> 1:15:25.200 heavy techno trance, like fucking hard ship before games. Yes, 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:27.040 and you could hear it because it would bounce off 1:15:27.080 --> 1:15:30.200 the walls. And the Knicks put the sickest sound system 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:34.680 in ever, you know. So it was a party. This 1:15:34.720 --> 1:15:37.000 team was a party team. We had a lot of 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:39.240 partiers on this team and every game. 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.280 Was a party. Who's the party animal. 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:48.439 On this team? We had some guys that went hard. 1:15:50.400 --> 1:15:52.639 I mean I definitely went the hardest for sure. 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:57.280 So you got asshole, you got partier. 1:15:57.439 --> 1:15:59.479 Yeah, yeah, so you're in it. 1:15:59.720 --> 1:16:02.599 Yeah, I was in it too fast, moving way too 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:05.880 fast at this point. First to say it, I just 1:16:05.920 --> 1:16:07.320 signed a. 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:10.679 Four year deal. Yeah, way too way too fast, way 1:16:10.720 --> 1:16:13.280 too fast. Let's jump into the game before we move on. 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:16.080 Just because I saw that Nigel Doz was on this team. Yeah, 1:16:16.080 --> 1:16:18.200 and he's a unique player in that he never really 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:20.040 quite stuck in the NHL. But is the case a 1:16:20.160 --> 1:16:21.920 kind of the kh a legend. What was it like 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:23.360 playing with him? Yeah? 1:16:23.479 --> 1:16:28.960 Dozzy also half black, which is a rarity in our sport, 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:35.519 you know, Toronto kid. Yeah, he went on to play 1:16:35.680 --> 1:16:38.559 like a lot of years in the KHL, which is 1:16:38.600 --> 1:16:41.280 the Russian version of the NHL, which is a very 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:44.120 very good league. Does he played pretty good for us? 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:44.519 I think? 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:47.360 You know, how is their payover there? They make big money? 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:52.160 Oil money, Yeah, oil money. Now are they allowed to 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:52.599 come home? 1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:53.320 Yeah? 1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:55.960 They come home with bags of cash multiple times over 1:16:55.960 --> 1:16:59.040 the course of the year, or they send family members 1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:02.519 with bags of cash home. It's the wild West over there. 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:07.160 HL. That's so crazy. That's why I'm so fascinated. 1:17:06.600 --> 1:17:09.920 When we won in two thousand and two. I went 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:17.800 to Russia with we had feder Off Larry onof we 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:21.200 had a lot of Russians. Anyways, I went to the Kremlin. 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:24.200 They took the Stanley Cup. They had a parade there, 1:17:24.240 --> 1:17:27.439 like that's a whole different world, and there's a lot 1:17:27.479 --> 1:17:30.040 of people over there. They love hockey too, and hockey 1:17:30.160 --> 1:17:33.280 is their sport. Yeah, you know Canada Russia seventy two. 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:38.559 The Russians are incredible players, great for the game. And 1:17:38.680 --> 1:17:42.920 Detroit was the was the birthplace of them defecting really yeah, yeah, 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:45.160 there's a great documentary called The Russian Five. 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:47.600 You should watch. We have to watch that. We'll watch it, 1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:51.120 all right, Jackie, let's break down this game. You want 1:17:51.120 --> 1:17:52.639 to get in the lead up real quick? Said this, yeah, 1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:53.439 lead up all right. 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:55.760 So over the final month of the season, both teams 1:17:55.760 --> 1:17:57.840 were around five hundred. The Rangers went seven to eight, 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:01.000 Devils went nine and seven. The Rangers owned them all 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:04.880 season seven and one. That lone loss coming the final 1:18:04.920 --> 1:18:09.080 game of the season. Wow, which would decide Howie advantage here? Uh, 1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:12.760 Devil's one, three, two and o T And that was 1:18:12.960 --> 1:18:14.000 the final game of the year. 1:18:14.120 --> 1:18:16.680 I had no idea that Games one and two were 1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:20.040 on the road, wild right, just blackout. 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:22.639 I had no clue. I guess it just didn't matter. 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:25.439 Like at that at this point it was such it 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:27.960 was so fun and so like nasty, it didn't matter. 1:18:28.080 --> 1:18:30.360 I probably liked going I think I did like going 1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:32.479 there more now I like that. 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:35.480 Yeah, you like being the villain? Yeah? 1:18:35.720 --> 1:18:40.840 Is is there a different energy? And I'm I'm assuming yes, 1:18:40.880 --> 1:18:45.280 But can you explain the energy difference between regular season hockey? 1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:47.120 Yeah, and fucking playoff hockey? 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:49.040 Because I explained it all the time in football, there's 1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:53.400 difference between training camp speed to when you have a 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:57.040 preseason game to when you go to the regular season 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:00.759 and then playoffs, and each week in playoffs like balls 1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:01.240 to the walls. 1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:02.479 There's no business decisions. 1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:05.280 Guys are literally trying to kill ye because there's no 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:08.040 more games. Like, can you explain that energy? 1:19:08.200 --> 1:19:11.040 The jump between the play and the regular season and 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:14.200 the playoffs. It's so exponential, it's it's it's like a 1:19:14.240 --> 1:19:16.880 thing that I think is just baked into us, Like 1:19:17.760 --> 1:19:21.360 it also becomes a performance. It's it's more life and death. 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:25.519 The fans and everything gets baked into it. Playoff hockey, 1:19:25.720 --> 1:19:30.400 it's just a better game. It's a sharper game everything. 1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:33.040 There's no you know, we play eighty two games, so 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:36.120 the first twenty of the seasons sometimes they're a little 1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:39.200 bit sloppy. Yeah, trying to work out your power play, 1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:40.360 penalty kill. 1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:43.320 Which is like ours in our league as of late 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:46.240 last five six years, the first three games, four games, 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:50.760 because they've killed practice time in training camp, right, has 1:19:50.880 --> 1:19:52.400 become sloppy right there. 1:19:52.439 --> 1:19:54.160 You can see it. You can see it. 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:59.080 And then John mentioned games one and two, both of 1:19:59.080 --> 1:20:00.679 those four to one in two to one. 1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:01.120 Wow. 1:20:01.479 --> 1:20:04.760 So then that brings us to Game three here, a 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:08.559 Sunday afternooner at the Garden, up two to zero in 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:13.280 the series. First period starts out dradon goals. 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:15.120 Devils came out flying around. 1:20:15.760 --> 1:20:18.040 Wow, we lot we uh, I didn't know they scored 1:20:18.080 --> 1:20:18.559 the first one. 1:20:18.600 --> 1:20:21.880 Then then do he tied it up? 1:20:23.320 --> 1:20:26.360 And then we go on the power play a five 1:20:26.400 --> 1:20:28.840 on three in the second period. Yep, that was a 1:20:28.880 --> 1:20:32.240 second period goal. Yep, six fifty six. 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:36.720 That was the the famous So that was after I 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:40.000 had done the thing, yes, okay, yeah, yeah. 1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:41.519 Scoring the goal off the f right. Yeah. 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:46.000 So what's the thing? Take us beat for beat? What 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:49.400 the thing is all right, the thing is here. 1:20:49.479 --> 1:20:52.920 This is perfect, the difference between the regular season and 1:20:52.960 --> 1:20:58.880 the playoffs and the regular season, my job immediately was 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:01.080 go to the front of the and try and make 1:21:01.160 --> 1:21:05.200 number thirty go crazy, all right, And in doing that 1:21:05.280 --> 1:21:09.720 sometimes I would take a penalty because you know, you're 1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:12.920 just it's like a little bit looser and the stakes 1:21:13.240 --> 1:21:16.320 clearly are not as high, but you're in a different mindset. 1:21:17.160 --> 1:21:20.280 So now you're in game three of the first round, 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:23.840 and during the regular season, normally I would go to 1:21:23.880 --> 1:21:26.640 the front of the net, and the traditional way to 1:21:26.680 --> 1:21:29.759 stand in front of the net is you stand facing 1:21:29.840 --> 1:21:32.799 your defenseman so that you can visually see the shots 1:21:33.160 --> 1:21:35.880 for tippins, because that's a big part of the game. Yeah, 1:21:36.080 --> 1:21:39.639 guys have made their careers just being great net front guys, 1:21:39.680 --> 1:21:42.240 being able to have hand eye and tip pucks in. 1:21:42.320 --> 1:21:46.439 And Dino Cicirelli was incredible. Thomas Holmstrom, who I played 1:21:46.439 --> 1:21:50.280 with in Detroit, one of the greatest ever. The problem 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:54.639 was Brodure was such an og this guy five hundred 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:59.759 NHL wins that I when I did it in the playoffs, 1:21:59.880 --> 1:22:01.840 I think probably in Game one, I went to the 1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:06.759 net traditional and I get a fucking I get jabbed 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:09.000 in the back of the knee, poked in the back 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:11.479 of the knee, but in the most perfect spot where 1:22:11.600 --> 1:22:13.360 when you're on skates, if you get poked in the 1:22:13.360 --> 1:22:16.280 back of the knee, you go ass over tea kettle. 1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:20.120 So he poked me and I fell into him. He 1:22:20.320 --> 1:22:24.120 sold it and I got a penalty. So now I 1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:27.000 just put this he poked the bear. Well, not only 1:22:27.040 --> 1:22:28.960 did he poke the bear, he beat the bear. He 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:32.360 out tricked the bear, he outsmarted the bear. The wise 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:35.920 man knew, well, you're like a little cub right now, Yes, 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:36.800 you're a cub. 1:22:36.800 --> 1:22:38.280 You're not even a bear, right. 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:41.160 And I'm now I'm like out of my element, and 1:22:41.200 --> 1:22:44.400 I go, holy fuck. Because the stakes are high. I 1:22:44.479 --> 1:22:48.639 have to figure out how to not get penalized because 1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:50.360 I want to stay on the ice, I want to score, 1:22:50.720 --> 1:22:54.800 I want to be effective. So the cub had to 1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:56.920 go to the penalty bucks. And it's just where the 1:22:56.920 --> 1:22:58.040 cub became a bear. 1:22:58.240 --> 1:22:58.479 Yeah. 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.719 Well, at this point, and this was the triggering effect, 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:05.080 we get a five on three, which a five on 1:23:05.200 --> 1:23:10.639 three power play in the playoffs very rare. That means 1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:15.080 they have two penalties, right now two guys have to 1:23:15.120 --> 1:23:18.320 go off the ice. We have five, they have three. 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:23.160 That's a big moment, right, have to score, You have 1:23:23.240 --> 1:23:24.479 to score, have to score. 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:26.840 It's it's like do or die. 1:23:26.920 --> 1:23:30.160 And if you don't score on five special teams, this 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.120 is like a yeah, special teams. 1:23:32.439 --> 1:23:33.120 Right, this is. 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:37.160 Denver having a thirty six yard kick to beat the 1:23:37.240 --> 1:23:38.320 Chiefs to win the game. 1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:40.240 You got to hit it. What happens? 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:42.960 The Chiefs blocked the fucking field goal. Yeah, it came 1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:44.479 up with the play. What a block? 1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:47.840 It's fucking crazy. So we get the five on three. 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:50.320 Let me let me play this through because a lot 1:23:50.400 --> 1:23:54.160 happened on this play now that I'm seeing it, because 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:58.400 I'm looking at the time. What time was their second 1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:01.080 penalty taken? Can we find that out? 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:01.920 Yeah, let me take a look. 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:04.760 Care because I would trigger the five on three. So 1:24:04.840 --> 1:24:08.360 I go, okay, holy shit, we're on a five on three. 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:12.519 It's Game three Stanley Cup Playoffs. We're in New York. 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:15.200 We're up to nothing in the series. I cannot take 1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:15.799 a penalty. 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:19.240 Now. What people don't understand. 1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:22.320 Is is that for me to go to the front 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:28.880 of the net and turn around, it's not safe because 1:24:28.920 --> 1:24:30.960 you can get to take a I got Yogurt and 1:24:31.000 --> 1:24:35.400 I got Shanahan on the points for one timers, and 1:24:35.680 --> 1:24:38.720 when you're in a five on three, the box gets condensed, 1:24:38.960 --> 1:24:43.000 so now instead of them being sixty feet away, they're 1:24:43.040 --> 1:24:47.200 like thirty feet away. In our equipment, we don't have 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:50.240 any padding in our backs because the game's always sort 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:53.280 of played at the front, like we go at guys, yeah, 1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:56.880 and we take hits to the side, like there's nothing 1:24:56.920 --> 1:25:01.040 in your back. So I go, okay, fuck it. I 1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:03.360 gotta figure out a way to not take a penalty. 1:25:04.160 --> 1:25:06.960 But I also have in the back of my head 1:25:07.080 --> 1:25:10.280 like if Yog's hits me with a one timer in 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:14.280 my back, he's gonna break my back, Like he's gonna 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.559 fucking break my spine. But I don't want to take 1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:20.519 a penalty, so I gotta figure I go. You know, 1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:22.240 these guys are the two of the greatest shooters of 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:26.360 all time, Shanahan and uh Yoger. At the point, I'm 1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:29.600 gonna be fine. And I remember the moment when I 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:33.479 got off the bench because you can see it. I 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:36.639 kind of come off the bench and we enter into 1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:39.559 the zone and you can see me like going just 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:41.840 blining it to the front of the net, which is 1:25:41.840 --> 1:25:46.320 where I'm supposed to be, and at some point from 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:50.000 my skate from the bench to the goal, which is 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:53.360 about I don't know, probably eighty feet. I figured that 1:25:53.479 --> 1:25:56.720 this is what I was gonna do, and like I have, 1:25:56.800 --> 1:26:01.360 it seered into my head. What brodure, what he looked like, 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:04.000 his eyes, what they were saying to me when I 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:06.479 went in front of him. No one had ever seen 1:26:06.520 --> 1:26:10.320 this before, like ever, Like no one had done anything 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:12.120 so stupid or weird. 1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:14.920 Because it's a crazy that you could take a puck 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:17.240 to the back and maybe become paralyzed. 1:26:17.560 --> 1:26:19.000 Because these things are fucking crazy. 1:26:19.080 --> 1:26:27.600 B Because etiquette, Yeah, how come people have never sortsmanship? 1:26:27.720 --> 1:26:32.240 Sportsmanship? Maybe? So we're in playoffs, yeah, playoff energy. 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:35.200 Like we talked ten minutes ago, we said, fuck sportsmanship, 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:38.479 fuck my life, the guard, my spine. 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:40.680 We're in the garden. Yep, I gotta do. 1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:44.200 I cannot get fucking penalty points. 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:46.559 I can't go in the box. I can't go in 1:26:46.600 --> 1:26:47.080 the box. 1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:53.280 So you sacrificed your life and sportsmanship for this fucking. 1:26:52.960 --> 1:26:54.160 We got to keep this five on three? 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:56.840 Maybe, Yeah, I gotta keep this five on three because 1:26:56.920 --> 1:27:01.519 you know ultimately, like I want to go because I 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:05.280 am at war with this school. So if I can 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.200 tie this whole thing together somehow and I can bury 1:27:08.240 --> 1:27:10.519 one on him, I got two on him in the series. 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:16.600 And let's just both times I scored on him, I 1:27:16.760 --> 1:27:21.519 reminded him immediately after, like they would throw a flag 1:27:21.560 --> 1:27:25.320 in football, they would go, oh take that, yeah, taunting. Yes, 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:28.719 I would go right to him and tell him terrible 1:27:28.760 --> 1:27:30.840 things about the ship, that he's done off the ice 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:33.320 and that I just fucking scored on you. Did you 1:27:33.360 --> 1:27:37.840 see that goal? Fucking didn't get it? 1:27:38.080 --> 1:27:38.400 Well? 1:27:39.200 --> 1:27:44.679 So it was war, right, And that's what happened, is no, 1:27:44.720 --> 1:27:46.760 there's what is it? What's the There's no fair in 1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:52.040 love and war's fair. And and by the way, you know, 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:55.000 he wanted me. They were trying to hurt me, and 1:27:55.040 --> 1:27:57.320 it was it was good. It was like perfect. It 1:27:57.400 --> 1:28:01.680 was the perfect storm. So, oh what happens? I do 1:28:01.840 --> 1:28:04.800 the thing. I put my hand in front of his face. Right, 1:28:05.320 --> 1:28:08.200 he moves one way and I moved the other way. 1:28:08.960 --> 1:28:11.640 And I think he thinks I'm only going to do 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:14.120 it maybe like once, and I'm not going to really 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:18.000 stick with the bit. But I stuck with it, so 1:28:18.160 --> 1:28:20.479 anytime he moved and we had a couple of shots 1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:23.400 in the process, I have no idea what's going on. 1:28:23.720 --> 1:28:26.559 I can hear the shots being taken, so I'm sort 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:28.639 of like trying to feel it. I'll lift my leg 1:28:28.720 --> 1:28:31.160 up or kind of move with bro Dirt because he's 1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:33.880 trying to Goalies have to try and find the puck, 1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:36.280 whether you're looking at them or away from them. 1:28:36.520 --> 1:28:38.559 That's part of their job. They got to track the puck. 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:45.559 And a moment happens. It goes down to the back 1:28:45.640 --> 1:28:49.320 door to Scotty Gomez, who I'd played with all year, 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:52.519 and I don't know, man, I just kind of like 1:28:53.520 --> 1:28:57.360 I just stood there and I was already facing that direction, 1:28:58.320 --> 1:29:01.760 so I didn't need to do sort of a one 1:29:01.880 --> 1:29:04.320 eighty to Scottie, who was in the corner with the puck. 1:29:04.439 --> 1:29:06.519 He could just it was a direct line to me, 1:29:07.080 --> 1:29:10.080 and it's sort of how it played out, A direct 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:13.280 line to me, who's already staring at Brodure like kind 1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:17.000 of doing this, and then I can I just that's it. 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:18.880 I'm here, and I get a pass and I bury 1:29:18.920 --> 1:29:21.200 it a one timer, and like the fucking place just 1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:23.920 went nuts, Like it went fucking nuts. 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:28.680 What is Brodure saying that? You know, I was so 1:29:30.080 --> 1:29:32.640 I didn't did he have a name for you or 1:29:33.000 --> 1:29:34.519 what did he call you? Do he call you Sean? 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:38.800 He has broken English, so it's kind of no. He 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:40.839 he almost didn't really speak. 1:29:41.240 --> 1:29:43.880 Yeah, like I got this guy so mad that he 1:29:43.920 --> 1:29:48.040 couldn't speak. It's basically the situation anytime we played them, 1:29:48.160 --> 1:29:50.479 And you can see by the way from that season 1:29:50.640 --> 1:29:54.880 series we played them eight times. Well, you guys, how 1:29:54.880 --> 1:29:56.559 many times do you play another team. 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:59.559 Twice in the division and then so the playoffs? Imagine 1:29:59.560 --> 1:30:02.240 playing a that you know him inside out eight times 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:03.240 eight times. 1:30:03.080 --> 1:30:05.880 And we beat them seven out of those eight games. So, like, 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:08.720 I was so far up this guy's ass that he 1:30:08.800 --> 1:30:12.080 wanted me dead. He would he would definitely, he would 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:14.880 not have shed a tear. If I fucking popped up 1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:17.679 on the back page of the New York Post debt, 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:20.439 he would be happy about that. It was fucking war. 1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:25.040 I scored the place went crazy, and that was kind 1:30:25.040 --> 1:30:27.200 of where it was just all in the same thing. 1:30:27.240 --> 1:30:31.000 It was like the same minute is the and you know, 1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:34.479 and this idea came up on the forty feet ice. 1:30:34.800 --> 1:30:37.920 Yeah, however, far it is from the bench to the 1:30:37.960 --> 1:30:38.559 goal line. 1:30:39.000 --> 1:30:42.360 At MSG. You didn't think about this on the bench. 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:44.519 It just you never thought about it once. 1:30:44.640 --> 1:30:47.000 And the funny thing was Chris Drury, who's now the 1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:50.559 general manager of the New York Rangers. He's he's on 1:30:50.640 --> 1:30:54.360 the back door, so he's like, back door on my 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:58.680 right side, left side, whatever side doesn't depending on what 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:02.920 side you're facing. Back door. The ref's yelling at me 1:31:03.240 --> 1:31:06.360 in the corner. He's telling me to knock it off 1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:08.880 more or less. But there's no rule in this. 1:31:09.280 --> 1:31:13.720 So I'm like saying to him, what what what? 1:31:13.840 --> 1:31:13.960 Like? 1:31:14.000 --> 1:31:16.440 We're talking, like you can see it. There's a conversation. 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:20.360 I'm talking to the ref. He's like telling motherfucking me, 1:31:20.439 --> 1:31:22.360 telling me he's gonna give me a penalty. I'm like, 1:31:22.360 --> 1:31:25.960 there's no fucking penalty. And then Drury comes from the 1:31:26.000 --> 1:31:29.640 back door. He skates over and he whispers into my 1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:34.080 ear while the play's happening, aves He's gonna give you 1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:37.200 a penalty. And I kind of turned to Drew. I'm like, 1:31:37.280 --> 1:31:40.680 for what. And then at this point Drew's like, yeah, no, 1:31:40.760 --> 1:31:43.200 I gotta go back to my spot. And then that 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:45.160 that was it. It went to Gomer to me, and 1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:47.160 I scored and it now did you go? But you 1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:50.879 went back to it the Knicks. Well, here's what happened. 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:59.240 Oh man, dude, all right, there's a rule Okay, the NHLPA, 1:31:59.479 --> 1:32:05.520 which is our union. You have one NFLPA, the NHLPA, 1:32:05.600 --> 1:32:09.280 which is our union. They have to approve any rule changes. 1:32:09.400 --> 1:32:12.439 They do it at the Border Governor's meeting in Palm Beach, 1:32:12.479 --> 1:32:13.719 Florida in the summer. 1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:18.400 Yeah, it's as owners meeting. Yes, like they proposed new rules. 1:32:18.640 --> 1:32:21.040 They all vote on it. Standard in all league procedures. 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:21.439 Right. 1:32:23.160 --> 1:32:26.800 I went out after the game. I went out. I 1:32:26.840 --> 1:32:29.479 didn't go home. I went out. I know exactly where 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:31.840 I went. I went down to Tribeca. My buddy had 1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:34.080 a restaurant and I went out. 1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:35.439 And uh. 1:32:37.040 --> 1:32:40.720 I remember in the middle of the night waking up 1:32:40.720 --> 1:32:42.280 and I had to go to the bathroom and I 1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:45.639 was like, fuck, I had blood. I had a cut 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:50.439 and my pillow was like covered in blood. And uh 1:32:51.840 --> 1:32:55.519 I just like I had this thought about something, I 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:59.759 could feel something happening. I wake up in the morning 1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:05.120 and I get into the Rangers sent town cars for us, 1:33:05.160 --> 1:33:07.520 Like that's how we would get to the practice. 1:33:07.600 --> 1:33:08.200 That's awesome. 1:33:08.320 --> 1:33:12.640 Yeah, like literally a black Town cars in front of 1:33:12.640 --> 1:33:15.000 your building. You just walk outside and they drive you 1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:23.080 to the rink. And Manny was the driver, and he 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:27.040 had heard because he drove our GM. He had already 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:30.200 dropped off our GM. So I think there was a 1:33:30.240 --> 1:33:34.280 phone call. Long story short, they changed the rule overnight, 1:33:34.560 --> 1:33:38.960 like they put an official release out. I think they 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:42.840 thought it was so it was dangerous for the game 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:47.519 or something, or it was so radical that everyone was 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:51.280 in agreement on both sides unofficially maybe, although no one 1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:54.800 ever asked me. I never got a call they changed 1:33:54.840 --> 1:33:58.920 the rule. The rule was changed that next day. So 1:33:59.080 --> 1:34:02.040 moving forward, like in the series and all the other 1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:05.360 series with the other teams playing for the Lord Stanley's Cup, 1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:08.640 the rule was changed, and no one ever told me 1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:11.559 why or how they did it. And like I said, 1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:13.479 I was moving way too fast, and I wish I 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:16.360 had a fucking stopped, and like said, hey, can somebody 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:18.760 just kind of put something on paper here so I 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:22.880 can frame it? Maybe just kind of let's mark this thing, 1:34:22.960 --> 1:34:25.080 and and but no, I you know, I was in 1:34:25.120 --> 1:34:28.000 the middle of a series. Also, yeah, we had we 1:34:28.040 --> 1:34:30.559 had to play game four and now we're in a 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.479 series because they beat us in ot so we're two 1:34:33.479 --> 1:34:33.760 to one. 1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:37.240 Now, how did the hockey world take this? Dude? Everyone 1:34:37.280 --> 1:34:38.640 hated me so much. 1:34:39.000 --> 1:34:43.840 That I think, like other teams and shit, everyone was 1:34:43.920 --> 1:34:46.519 just like, yeah, no, you got to make you know. 1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:50.479 There was no nobody stood up and said, hey, you 1:34:50.520 --> 1:34:53.800 can't do this right. Yeah, And I'm in the middle 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:55.760 of a series and like I had to figure out 1:34:55.760 --> 1:34:59.200 how to now not take a penalty again in game four? Yeah, 1:34:59.240 --> 1:35:02.400 with bro Dure because it wasn't gonna stop. 1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:06.160 Any players from other teams text you or anything. Anyone 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:09.360 text you, dude. Two thousand and eight, was I on 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:16.320 a sidekick keyboard? Yeah? Yeah, the seven iPhone came out. 1:35:16.560 --> 1:35:18.719 All right, so I was on a first gen iPhone. 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:20.000 Yeah. I don't know. 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:24.120 No, again, I can't even remember really, like I I 1:35:24.160 --> 1:35:26.400 remember where I went after the game that night. 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:28.840 Do you remember what the boy said to you on 1:35:28.880 --> 1:35:32.320 the bench afterwards? I remember what. 1:35:32.320 --> 1:35:35.479 Chris Drewy said. I can still you know Madison Square 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:38.519 Gardens lowed. Yeah, like to have a player come up 1:35:38.560 --> 1:35:43.200 beside you, your teammate and whisper or sort of not 1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:45.760 whisper but kind of like yell in your ear because 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:48.360 he's got to get over he's got a fuck. 1:35:48.800 --> 1:35:49.559 It's chaos. 1:35:49.760 --> 1:35:52.120 Yeah, be like stopping in a play, in the middle 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:54.920 of a play a route and having a conversation with 1:35:55.000 --> 1:35:58.599 a guy and then like finishing the route. I don't know, 1:35:59.120 --> 1:36:01.200 but we're you know, we play a sport which is 1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:04.960 somewhat weird where we go really fast at times, but 1:36:05.000 --> 1:36:09.120 then at times we're all stopped. Yeah, standing still playing 1:36:09.120 --> 1:36:11.160 tic tac toe with a ball with like a puck. 1:36:11.840 --> 1:36:15.120 It's interesting that way. But no, I can't remember what 1:36:15.200 --> 1:36:16.599 anybody said, who knows? 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:21.040 Have you ever talked to Bordeu about it? Later? I have, 1:36:21.680 --> 1:36:27.400 like what's his name? I like this? 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:30.880 It sounds like South Park almost, by the way. Fun 1:36:30.960 --> 1:36:37.480 fact about Martin Brodure. His dad was a world famous 1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:41.640 photographer for the Montreal Canadians. Like he was the in 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:46.920 house photographer for the Forum in Montreal, which uh you know, 1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:49.960 I think Ali fought there. Like his dad was was 1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:54.639 Canadian royalty and his son now just played his first 1:36:54.680 --> 1:36:57.720 game as a goalie for the New Jersey Devils. 1:36:58.160 --> 1:36:59.240 Wow, good guys. 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:03.320 If one if if one's a hockey goalie, one's a 1:37:03.479 --> 1:37:05.679 you know, photography, got a good eye. Right, you're right, 1:37:05.800 --> 1:37:08.559 you're you see ship that's wild. Probably eat the carrots, 1:37:09.000 --> 1:37:11.720 a lot of carrots. Vitamin A yeah, yeah, good for 1:37:11.760 --> 1:37:13.439 your eyes. You gotta make a comebacks. You can score 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:18.479 in his kid. So yeah, imagine we're talking little he's 1:37:18.520 --> 1:37:19.360 gonna go up in there. 1:37:19.680 --> 1:37:21.799 There you go there. It is a little nash like hockey. 1:37:22.479 --> 1:37:24.599 Yeah, he does. I'm trying to keep him away from 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:27.320 it for a little bit. They can play like I 1:37:27.360 --> 1:37:30.400 started when I was eight. Yeah, you know, but you 1:37:30.439 --> 1:37:31.320 grew up around it. 1:37:31.800 --> 1:37:34.080 Yeah, but we played like Yeah, they don't do that 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:36.280 here though, Right, you grew up in Laurel Canyon. You 1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:40.000 can't fucking put the skates on. And he'll play backyard hockey. 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:42.680 On No, No, there's too many hills. No, I know, 1:37:43.479 --> 1:37:45.960 I don't know. You know, Yeah, he'll play. Wow, what 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:47.080 is this? This is? 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:52.439 Let's let's hear the aftermath, every rule, wrap this thing up. 1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:54.400 There were eleven penalties in the second period. 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:57.120 Uh. The Devil's got two power play goals. 1:37:57.479 --> 1:38:00.280 Then Dominski tied it up again in the third uh, 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:04.680 and then an ot John Madden Boom scored the game 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:05.200 winning goal. 1:38:07.760 --> 1:38:08.000 Wow. 1:38:08.479 --> 1:38:08.599 Uh. 1:38:08.920 --> 1:38:13.519 In the Devil's took game three, and then the Avery 1:38:13.600 --> 1:38:14.639 rule came into effect. 1:38:14.680 --> 1:38:17.559 As we just spoke about, Oh my god, I don't 1:38:17.560 --> 1:38:21.960 even remember there's seventy five point one the amendment. 1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:27.880 No, yeah, no, but the w NBCTV cameras, so now 1:38:27.920 --> 1:38:30.360 I remember what that picture was from, or there's like 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:35.760 a video. Holy shit, dude, my fucking brain just exploded. 1:38:35.920 --> 1:38:39.519 You know, you remember things like yeah that you didn't yeah, 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:42.479 because you it's it's people want to say, because you 1:38:42.560 --> 1:38:44.160 probably played a contact sports. 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:46.320 Oh yeah, my ct Yeah. But it's more. 1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:49.160 About I think that you have so many other things 1:38:49.160 --> 1:38:50.160 going on in your life. 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:53.640 It's like a processor. You get too much gigabytes, you 1:38:53.680 --> 1:38:54.200 forget about. 1:38:54.479 --> 1:38:56.920 Also at this point, when you're in the middle of 1:38:56.960 --> 1:38:59.720 a series, like do you remember, do you remember what? 1:38:59.760 --> 1:38:59.880 How? 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:03.960 And from game one of what nfcas to the Super 1:39:04.000 --> 1:39:07.080 Bowl Final, like the narrative and piecing all those. 1:39:07.120 --> 1:39:09.240 It'd be more like do I remember a play from 1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:12.400 a certain game? Because you guys have so many games, right, 1:39:12.720 --> 1:39:14.639 you know, there's a lot of times where I don't remember, 1:39:14.680 --> 1:39:17.360 but someone will come on and we'll talk about and 1:39:17.360 --> 1:39:19.879 then it reunites thatthing like you just exploded. 1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:22.320 I just felt that it's a deja vu, but it's 1:39:22.320 --> 1:39:24.880 not okay. So the next day I went to practice. 1:39:25.360 --> 1:39:28.599 I had probably just found out an hour before. When 1:39:28.600 --> 1:39:31.200 I got in the town car. I get to practice. 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:34.920 All the fucking cameras are there. They're all like lined 1:39:35.000 --> 1:39:39.639 up because the NHL is issued an amendment to the 1:39:39.760 --> 1:39:45.440 unsportsman like Conduct rule, which seventy five had probably an amendment. 1:39:45.560 --> 1:39:50.400 It's like that's like the Constitution moother shit. For Fox's sakes. 1:39:50.600 --> 1:39:54.120 It probably hadn't been changed in seventy years, who knows. 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:57.400 So the cameras are all there, and I come out 1:39:57.479 --> 1:39:59.840 and the first thing I do I skate up to 1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:03.400 hammera row and I just fucking flipped them the verge 1:40:03.880 --> 1:40:08.320 like I think with my glove on. Actually is the picture? 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:13.360 Holy fuck man? I so yeah, I was. I was 1:40:13.439 --> 1:40:18.280 really out of control, clearly, and I haven't even I've 1:40:18.280 --> 1:40:22.640 never read it. Here it is, and then sportsmanlike conduct 1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:27.880 minor penalty will be interpreted and applied effective immediately to 1:40:28.040 --> 1:40:31.960 a situation. This is the amendment, by the way, that's 1:40:32.000 --> 1:40:36.240 a long amendment to a situation. When an offensive player 1:40:36.400 --> 1:40:42.920 positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions 1:40:42.960 --> 1:40:46.080 such as waving his arms or stick in front of 1:40:46.120 --> 1:40:52.080 the goaltender's face for the purpose of improperly interfering with 1:40:52.320 --> 1:40:58.640 and or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself 1:40:59.040 --> 1:41:02.120 to try and make a play. A Colon Campbell, the 1:41:02.240 --> 1:41:05.679 NHL director of Hopey Hockey Operations, said in a statement, 1:41:06.240 --> 1:41:08.400 how the fuck did they write that overnight? 1:41:08.720 --> 1:41:10.120 That that's like wild? 1:41:10.160 --> 1:41:13.640 They got a lot of lawyers because that says a 1:41:13.680 --> 1:41:15.120 lot of different things, doesn't it. 1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:19.479 Basically you can't like do anything in the goalie space anymore? 1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:20.880 Or what's distracting? 1:41:22.720 --> 1:41:26.160 That's an amendment? I've never read that. That is you 1:41:26.360 --> 1:41:32.000 not an a amendment. That is your amendment? Holy fuck, 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:37.120 for the purpose of improperly interfering with and or distracting 1:41:37.160 --> 1:41:41.320 the goaltender as opposed to positioning him himself to try 1:41:41.320 --> 1:41:44.960 and make a play. Oh I see, Oh, I see, 1:41:45.320 --> 1:41:46.480 you get it? 1:41:46.680 --> 1:41:48.320 Kind of kind of what do you see? 1:41:48.720 --> 1:41:52.200 I see another loophole to a loophole somewhere. I don't know, 1:41:52.880 --> 1:41:59.600 I mean, I just there's a loophole somewhere. Now is 1:41:59.640 --> 1:42:00.680 this the original one? 1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:00.960 Now? 1:42:01.000 --> 1:42:03.200 If you get penalized, are you gonna do you have 1:42:03.280 --> 1:42:05.160 like a little court right there with the ref like 1:42:05.280 --> 1:42:07.760 with the loophole, yea, how can you explain the loophole? Well, 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:12.360 what's interesting? And so this is seventy five point one. Yeah, 1:42:12.520 --> 1:42:16.160 rule seventy five point one unsportsmanlike conduct. This is the 1:42:16.160 --> 1:42:22.400 original one. Unsportsmanlike conduct. Players in non plane club personnel 1:42:22.800 --> 1:42:26.760 are responsible for their conduct at all times and must 1:42:27.040 --> 1:42:32.080 endeavor to prevent disorderly conduct before, during, or after the game, 1:42:32.560 --> 1:42:34.679 hon or off the ice in any place in the rank. 1:42:34.720 --> 1:42:37.640 The referees may assess penalties. Okay, so that's just like 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:42.240 a general thing, like you can't be an asshole, right, yeah, 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:45.599 there must be seventy five point two and things like that. 1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:48.160 I would say, Okay, that breaks it down a little bit, 1:42:48.280 --> 1:42:52.280 like you can't yell at fans directly maybe things like that. 1:42:52.280 --> 1:42:56.400 That amendment's wild. That is unbelievable. Wow, Wow, thank you 1:42:56.479 --> 1:42:56.760 for this. 1:42:56.920 --> 1:42:59.280 I doesn't feel like to like have the league move 1:42:59.360 --> 1:43:01.920 that quick for something you did. Well. Now, it was 1:43:02.000 --> 1:43:02.759 the first time. 1:43:02.880 --> 1:43:07.439 Honestly, I swear to God that I can kind of 1:43:07.439 --> 1:43:10.439 look at it and just put it all into like 1:43:10.520 --> 1:43:14.080 a box, like I can I sort of see all 1:43:14.080 --> 1:43:16.760 of it and when it happened now I kind of 1:43:16.800 --> 1:43:20.479 feel and understand it. I mean I was fucking out 1:43:20.479 --> 1:43:25.240 of control, clearly. That amendment is that is the wildest 1:43:25.240 --> 1:43:27.759 thing I've ever read. That Is it called an amendment 1:43:27.880 --> 1:43:33.600 or we just given it the name amendments somewhere right, yeah, everywhere? 1:43:33.720 --> 1:43:33.920 Yeah. 1:43:33.960 --> 1:43:34.120 Yeah. 1:43:34.240 --> 1:43:40.559 The NHL issued an amendment to the Unsportsmanlike Conduct rule 1:43:40.680 --> 1:43:42.559 to cover the situation. 1:43:42.479 --> 1:43:46.439 Whatever happened to I'm just a bi gap. 1:43:47.200 --> 1:43:49.920 Remember those things. Yeah, you get to go to Capitol Hill. 1:43:49.920 --> 1:43:55.439 This thing got right there. Executive or executive order order. Yeah, 1:43:55.600 --> 1:43:57.920 it was an executive or executive ordered. 1:43:58.120 --> 1:44:01.120 Yes, you can write them and and that's your day 1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:01.720 to just go. 1:44:02.000 --> 1:44:04.760 You just there's no let it rip like Roger for 1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:10.320 our league commission, there's a rule where he could. It's 1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:13.920 like basically he can do whatever he wants rule what day? 1:44:14.720 --> 1:44:15.160 What do you mean? 1:44:15.320 --> 1:44:19.320 Or just any time anytime veto you can't he's got 1:44:19.560 --> 1:44:21.639 he's the last veto on anything. 1:44:21.760 --> 1:44:23.240 Yeah, yeah, or. 1:44:23.240 --> 1:44:27.719 Nobody can actually veto anything that he does, right. Kind 1:44:27.720 --> 1:44:31.880 of this is also puts this whole thing into perspective 1:44:32.000 --> 1:44:37.120 because like we went on to win the series, am 1:44:37.160 --> 1:44:44.160 I let it rip? Then we lost quickly to Pittsburgh's 1:44:44.160 --> 1:44:45.560 Sydney Crosby. 1:44:46.760 --> 1:44:47.439 Kyler's team. 1:44:47.680 --> 1:44:49.559 Yeah, this is the start of their little run, the 1:44:49.960 --> 1:44:54.280 losing to the Red Wings Flurry. Yeah, Malkin, what a team, 1:44:54.600 --> 1:45:00.559 Max Talbot, let's haang, great team. How fucking go the 1:45:00.600 --> 1:45:03.559 biggest defenseman I have ever played against in my life. 1:45:03.600 --> 1:45:06.559 Like he was huge, he was a giant man on skates. 1:45:07.720 --> 1:45:11.479 And he gets the puck in the corner. Game three, 1:45:12.080 --> 1:45:14.840 it was the first period and I'm at the blue line. 1:45:14.880 --> 1:45:18.160 I'm like, I'm gonna fucking kill hal Gil. This is 1:45:18.200 --> 1:45:20.960 my time to kill hal Gil. I go one hundred 1:45:21.000 --> 1:45:24.200 miles an hour at hal Gil and hit him dead 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:28.559 square on, like I try and kill hal Gil. Hal 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:30.960 Gil stands there and I bounce off. 1:45:30.760 --> 1:45:33.760 Of him, and I'm like thinking to myself, I think 1:45:33.800 --> 1:45:37.439 I just tore my abdominal. Okay, I was dead. I 1:45:37.560 --> 1:45:39.920 thought I tore my abdominal. I went back to the 1:45:39.960 --> 1:45:43.320 bench rammer or trainer, I said, I tore my abdominal. 1:45:43.600 --> 1:45:45.599 I need a tor it All shot in between periods. 1:45:46.280 --> 1:45:49.200 So we go in. He gives me a tourd All shot. 1:45:49.360 --> 1:45:52.160 And so there's two on the day. This second one 1:45:53.560 --> 1:45:57.360 too quick to get a second one yeah, all right, 1:45:58.080 --> 1:46:01.120 we lose Game three. I am assume. I don't even 1:46:01.160 --> 1:46:04.240 fucking know. I can't even remember that. Finishing the game, 1:46:04.360 --> 1:46:07.040 I went into the cold tub after the game, and 1:46:07.160 --> 1:46:09.519 the moment I got into the cold tub, I felt 1:46:09.560 --> 1:46:13.240 like somebody stabbed me in my shoulder. And Doc Feldman, 1:46:13.280 --> 1:46:16.400 our team doctor, was four feet away and he saw it. 1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:20.519 And the moment he saw it, he was like, get him, 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:23.000 get your clothes on, get him dressed, and we got 1:46:23.000 --> 1:46:24.280 to go to the hospital. And they took me to 1:46:24.360 --> 1:46:27.280 the hospital in the back of a cab. I guess 1:46:27.400 --> 1:46:32.759 that is one of the referrals of a lacerated spleen. 1:46:34.439 --> 1:46:36.519 I last rated my spleen on that hit that I 1:46:36.520 --> 1:46:40.240 thought I was gonna kill hal Gil actually almost killed me. 1:46:40.800 --> 1:46:44.480 And I spent four days in ICEU of Saint Vincent's, 1:46:44.560 --> 1:46:47.600 which is not even a hospital anymore. They tore it down, 1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:53.360 where a majority of the gays in New York during 1:46:53.439 --> 1:46:56.840 the AIDS crisis died in this hospital. A It was 1:46:56.880 --> 1:47:01.360 a really like symbolic, like deep hospital and I almost 1:47:01.439 --> 1:47:03.640 died in that hospital. So that was the end of 1:47:03.680 --> 1:47:08.120 the fucking season. That was just like that, that whole run. 1:47:08.600 --> 1:47:11.000 That's how hard it went. It was going so hard 1:47:11.760 --> 1:47:14.360 and I and I, yeah, I almost died because I 1:47:14.400 --> 1:47:18.040 had this type of laceration that it was a squirting laceration. 1:47:18.840 --> 1:47:22.400 So we got a squirter, I got We had a squirter. 1:47:22.600 --> 1:47:25.240 Yeah, and they had to keep going in and cauterizing, 1:47:25.840 --> 1:47:29.160 trying to cauterize. You gotta burn it, but you can't. 1:47:29.520 --> 1:47:32.040 They could only see it when it was squirting, so 1:47:32.040 --> 1:47:34.839 they had to keep going in four or five times 1:47:34.880 --> 1:47:35.839 over four days. 1:47:36.080 --> 1:47:39.000 Oh yeah, brutal. You know. 1:47:39.080 --> 1:47:43.519 The aftermath of the Averrull game, the hockey guy said, hey, hey, son, can. 1:47:43.400 --> 1:47:45.200 I tell you one more funny story about that? 1:47:45.400 --> 1:47:46.200 Yeah, let's hear it. 1:47:46.400 --> 1:47:51.320 I was in the ICU still and uh. I had 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:55.160 a friend, not even a romantic friend, a girl by 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:59.400 the name of May Anderson, who was like a Danish supermodel. 1:47:59.479 --> 1:48:04.960 She was She was incredible, she is. May was awesome. 1:48:05.120 --> 1:48:05.599 Yeah. 1:48:05.760 --> 1:48:08.519 She was with another girl friend of mine, Lauren Flynn, 1:48:09.439 --> 1:48:12.280 and Jim Dolan, who owns the New York Rangers and 1:48:12.320 --> 1:48:14.720 the New York Next He won't let me into the 1:48:14.760 --> 1:48:18.400 stadium gohead really yeah, we got I got Celtics courts, 1:48:18.400 --> 1:48:20.960 I'd see twins and he wouldn't let me go facial 1:48:21.040 --> 1:48:24.840 Well he's got facial recognition now, so you're fucked. Charles 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:28.400 oak Bro Yeah, best owner in sports. I love playing 1:48:28.400 --> 1:48:31.639 for Dolan. Let me just get that straight right now. Uh, 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:34.280 you can go to the ship. He came and visited 1:48:34.320 --> 1:48:39.599 me at the hospital and May Anderson was sleeping in 1:48:39.640 --> 1:48:43.000 my hospital bed with me in it, just like because 1:48:43.000 --> 1:48:45.360 there's no beds in there, and she's tiny. She got 1:48:45.360 --> 1:48:47.200 the end. She's on the end of the bed sort 1:48:47.200 --> 1:48:49.840 of like I don't I'm almost dying. And Jim Dolan 1:48:49.920 --> 1:48:52.000 walked in and that's the scene that he walked in on. 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:53.400 Wow. 1:48:54.800 --> 1:48:59.880 Man, Yeah, Jim you guys really bluebo Jimbo. He had 1:48:59.880 --> 1:49:03.000 a laugh ga sense of humor, be like be like 1:49:03.040 --> 1:49:06.880 craft walking in. Yeah, you got it. Light the mood, 1:49:07.520 --> 1:49:13.200 the mood, light the mood. Light in the mood is right, Jesus. 1:49:13.840 --> 1:49:15.799 We'll be right back after this quick break. 1:49:17.439 --> 1:49:20.599 All right, let's score the game. Still, dude, you guys 1:49:20.640 --> 1:49:24.320 just saw my brain explode on here. So yeah, name 1:49:24.439 --> 1:49:27.240 the game. Let's name the game. This is the averall game. 1:49:27.320 --> 1:49:28.800 Yeah, appreciated game. 1:49:29.200 --> 1:49:32.040 Score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? 1:49:32.439 --> 1:49:35.840 Let's score it stakes zero to ten stakes of this 1:49:35.920 --> 1:49:38.680 game decimal's okay, Sean all right. 1:49:38.800 --> 1:49:42.760 So Messier guaranteed a Game seven win against the New 1:49:42.840 --> 1:49:45.160 Jersey Devils. They went on to win the Stanley Cup 1:49:45.160 --> 1:49:48.519 in ninety four. So as far as the Battle of 1:49:48.560 --> 1:49:51.519 the Hudson goes, it's second place. 1:49:52.360 --> 1:49:54.960 Uh what does that mean? It's an eight. 1:49:55.640 --> 1:49:59.400 It's nice, all right, Yeah, that's a pro score. Pro 1:49:59.479 --> 1:50:02.799 Score just had Danny DeVito on the show. He's producing 1:50:02.840 --> 1:50:05.639 a show with Mark Messi about Game sevens. They covered 1:50:05.640 --> 1:50:06.320 that game in it. 1:50:06.400 --> 1:50:10.120 Oh wow, wow, oh I oh, yes, I've seen this. Okay, 1:50:10.160 --> 1:50:13.479 I need to watch it. Yeah, good, it's good. Okay, 1:50:13.560 --> 1:50:16.240 I'm gonna score it a. I'll give it a eight 1:50:16.240 --> 1:50:19.000 point one. It's playoff game, playoff game game. There's a 1:50:19.000 --> 1:50:21.599 lot of heat there. You got a little rivalry cross 1:50:21.640 --> 1:50:23.240 town or whatever cross six. 1:50:23.040 --> 1:50:25.400 Point slightly Russian judge of me, Jax a hater a 1:50:25.400 --> 1:50:27.120 little bit later, sorry six point jack. 1:50:27.160 --> 1:50:29.679 I don't know what I'm doing over here. I'm just wild. 1:50:29.800 --> 1:50:32.639 I just don't let them. I just don't let him 1:50:32.880 --> 1:50:39.280 get off the ground. That's a good score. Star power 1:50:39.800 --> 1:50:42.280 zero to ten decimls. Okay, the people that played in it. 1:50:42.360 --> 1:50:44.400 Maybe the people that are at it, I mean the 1:50:44.479 --> 1:50:47.680 star power. Oh yeah, oh, hall of famers. 1:50:47.320 --> 1:50:52.120 Yeah no, this this is a this could compete with with. Yeah, 1:50:52.160 --> 1:50:56.639 there was Liam Neeson. We had some big Margot Robbie 1:50:56.680 --> 1:50:58.600 I think was at that game. If you go to 1:50:58.680 --> 1:51:02.719 wire image nice, give it an eight point wire I'll 1:51:02.720 --> 1:51:03.920 give it an eight point nine. 1:51:03.960 --> 1:51:07.639 Let me get some watermark star you're in New York, Yeah, yeah, 1:51:07.680 --> 1:51:08.000 I give you. 1:51:08.080 --> 1:51:11.719 I give you eight five. Rangers rosters stacked legend. 1:51:12.160 --> 1:51:14.639 Mine's a little biased because I don't know hockey guys 1:51:14.680 --> 1:51:17.599 that well. So like if I knew the the amount 1:51:17.680 --> 1:51:21.280 of studs on this as much as a five is nice, 1:51:22.040 --> 1:51:24.200 it's yeah. 1:51:24.000 --> 1:51:27.040 I forgot Margot Robbie such a big Ranger fan. Yeah yeah, 1:51:27.320 --> 1:51:28.760 I kind of seven point eight. I had an eight 1:51:28.760 --> 1:51:29.280 point one. 1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:33.519 Nice the game player of the game one to ten decimals, Okay, 1:51:35.240 --> 1:51:35.679 I mean. 1:51:37.560 --> 1:51:39.320 A lot of penalties, A lot of penalties. 1:51:39.920 --> 1:51:44.559 Yeah, it was really nice. It was like Americana. I'll 1:51:44.560 --> 1:51:47.799 go in eight one. I'm like that eight five again, 1:51:47.960 --> 1:51:50.240 because I mean we got a fucking rule name after 1:51:50.320 --> 1:51:52.680 the game time, No seven, I went seven to four. 1:51:53.720 --> 1:51:57.519 Now you gotta you got a grade the name of 1:51:57.560 --> 1:51:57.960 the game. 1:51:58.240 --> 1:52:00.240 Every rule game, av rule game. Good. 1:52:01.160 --> 1:52:04.920 It's so cultural history. Like people know this fucking game. 1:52:05.040 --> 1:52:07.000 And I've told people that I'm having you on, like 1:52:07.040 --> 1:52:09.360 my hockey friends. Yeah, and they go, what game you doing. 1:52:09.400 --> 1:52:10.880 I go, I'm doing We're doing the Aver rule game. 1:52:10.920 --> 1:52:17.960 He goes, oh, fuck that motherfucker. Yeah. It's like I 1:52:18.000 --> 1:52:22.000 guess I could die knowing. Like I mean, Jordan had 1:52:22.040 --> 1:52:25.160 a flu game. It was it was an identifiable game. 1:52:25.240 --> 1:52:28.040 That's this game, right that, I mean the rule game. 1:52:28.880 --> 1:52:33.559 The Constitution of Hockey passed in an amendment and an 1:52:33.640 --> 1:52:35.960 executive decision to pass an. 1:52:35.880 --> 1:52:39.120 Amendment for this rule because of this game. Because of you. 1:52:39.479 --> 1:52:46.720 Yeah, and the name of this game. Yeah. Let me 1:52:46.960 --> 1:52:47.479 let me go. 1:52:48.840 --> 1:52:52.200 I'll go a nine one, I'll go a flat nine. Okay. 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:55.439 I like it because and my test to that is 1:52:55.479 --> 1:52:59.120 because I I have like a select few hockey friends, right, 1:52:59.479 --> 1:53:01.760 and I go, I just throughout that we're doing the 1:53:01.800 --> 1:53:02.280 Avery game. 1:53:02.560 --> 1:53:05.920 Oh, everyone knew it. You know, those are these generally 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:06.599 high scores. 1:53:06.760 --> 1:53:09.160 This is gonna be game. It's gonna be pretty good. 1:53:09.160 --> 1:53:12.800 I was eight too here again too low. You can't 1:53:12.800 --> 1:53:15.120 call the history of the NHL without the Sean Ay, 1:53:15.479 --> 1:53:16.360 that's right, baby, sir. 1:53:17.360 --> 1:53:17.559 Eight. 1:53:18.040 --> 1:53:20.160 So it's eight one. Where does that stack up in 1:53:20.240 --> 1:53:21.519 all the games we've done? 1:53:21.840 --> 1:53:27.599 A point one zero? That puts us right here. It's 1:53:27.640 --> 1:53:30.559 gonna be our twenty seventh game overalls, just above UFC 1:53:31.040 --> 1:53:33.639 two twenty nine could be Bruce McGregor, and just below 1:53:33.840 --> 1:53:36.840 the two thousand and seven Western Conference Playoffs game six 1:53:36.880 --> 1:53:39.960 Mas versus Warriors, Mark Cuban and Dana White, good company. 1:53:40.080 --> 1:53:43.799 Listen, I'll take that. What a what a what a list? 1:53:44.360 --> 1:53:48.760 Look at that list? Holy shit, hockey games, man, some games. 1:53:49.040 --> 1:53:51.600 Yeah no, that's a very healthy spot to be in. 1:53:51.800 --> 1:53:53.479 That is actually, thank you. 1:53:53.400 --> 1:53:56.559 That's our that's our second highest ranked I believe hockey game. 1:53:56.640 --> 1:53:59.559 This is the travesty, right behind Miracle on Ice America 1:53:59.600 --> 1:54:00.400 and Ice four. 1:54:00.439 --> 1:54:02.679 Overall we have three Patriots games. 1:54:03.720 --> 1:54:06.960 We know you guys have a little bit of American 1:54:07.000 --> 1:54:09.639 bias for sure, not a little. 1:54:09.760 --> 1:54:10.880 That's a wilder. 1:54:11.280 --> 1:54:12.840 When I look at that list and you got the 1:54:12.920 --> 1:54:16.080 Miracle on Ice at four, Wow. 1:54:16.120 --> 1:54:18.920 What is a travesty? Here's I'm looking at this. The 1:54:19.040 --> 1:54:22.720 twenty eleven Stand Cup Final Game seven Bruins Canucks is 1:54:23.120 --> 1:54:29.040 fiftieth the Riots. Yeah yeah, let alone. 1:54:31.240 --> 1:54:34.480 But what was twenty eleven Mavericks versus Heat? Was that 1:54:34.560 --> 1:54:35.760 a good series game? 1:54:35.840 --> 1:54:39.880 Six? That's just okay? Mark Mark Cuban came in and 1:54:40.160 --> 1:54:44.920 scored it outrageous. Got it revamped. Our scoring system became 1:54:45.520 --> 1:54:48.960 after we had to read that's why we started the 1:54:49.040 --> 1:54:51.160 number game and it was like this is oh he's 1:54:51.160 --> 1:54:55.440 a marketing genius, my god system. So we used to 1:54:55.480 --> 1:54:58.600 just do the score B and then we were like, okay, 1:54:58.680 --> 1:55:02.400 jewels scores, we score. He scored just too with it. Well, 1:55:02.400 --> 1:55:03.120 he knows how to do. 1:55:03.240 --> 1:55:08.040 He knows the algoid's wild. 1:55:08.400 --> 1:55:11.600 Wow, sha we miss anything from this game? 1:55:12.760 --> 1:55:18.160 Uh, dude, I wish cameo was around back then. You 1:55:18.200 --> 1:55:20.280 know how many fucking cameos I would have gone. 1:55:20.560 --> 1:55:22.520 They had merch outside of the stadium, didn't I already 1:55:22.600 --> 1:55:24.800 selling a bootleg? Yeah, I'm one of my friends. Do 1:55:25.480 --> 1:55:26.600 I see your camera? Lot? 1:55:27.280 --> 1:55:30.880 People love? Sean Avery cameos. Sean Avery cameos. I just 1:55:30.960 --> 1:55:35.800 told uh a loving husband that he was welcoming a 1:55:35.840 --> 1:55:38.760 new child to the family, second child. I do everything 1:55:38.760 --> 1:55:43.320 I break up, I said, divorce notices. I fucking you 1:55:43.440 --> 1:55:46.040 got anything you want cleaned up? I can do it 1:55:46.080 --> 1:55:50.440 on cameo. Yeah, so everyone Sean avery on cameo. 1:55:50.680 --> 1:55:52.480 Just go and watch them. They're fun to just be 1:55:52.760 --> 1:55:56.280 very fun to watch. Out all his TikTok Instagram pages. 1:55:56.840 --> 1:55:58.760 Oh yeah, TikTok. Yeah, TikTok. 1:55:58.800 --> 1:55:59.080 What is it? 1:55:59.280 --> 1:56:02.640 Sean avery At, I'm Sean Avery. I am Sean Avery. 1:56:03.400 --> 1:56:06.520 Fucking fun. Thanks man, I appreciate you coming on, dude. 1:56:06.560 --> 1:56:07.200 I appreciate it. 1:56:07.240 --> 1:56:12.680 Thank you. Yeah, appreciate it. Guys. Thanks great, ma'am. We 1:56:12.720 --> 1:56:18.040 need more hockey, guys, love mysole. Hey, hit the nail 1:56:18.080 --> 1:56:21.000 on the head, brother, lovable asshole. I told you you're right. 1:56:21.720 --> 1:56:24.040 You just he's just unfiltered. 1:56:24.760 --> 1:56:26.360 Like if he says something, he'll say it right to 1:56:26.400 --> 1:56:29.360 your face what he believes, and no one's off limits. 1:56:29.480 --> 1:56:33.840 Hey, he keeps his it's right, there's some respect behind that. 1:56:33.920 --> 1:56:34.880 I messed with it, man. 1:56:34.960 --> 1:56:36.560 A person that could do that built a career off 1:56:36.560 --> 1:56:40.880 that fucking past standing on business. He's a beast. 1:56:41.400 --> 1:56:43.320 I loved him. 1:56:42.560 --> 1:56:45.040 I'm I'm trying to come to the block parties, man, 1:56:45.400 --> 1:56:48.440 the block part roll through his I'm trying to roll 1:56:48.480 --> 1:56:49.520 through the LORDL Canyon. 1:56:49.280 --> 1:56:51.280 Maybe little canyon man, block parties. Awesome. 1:56:51.280 --> 1:56:53.440 Property values just went up knowing that Sean Avery's in 1:56:53.440 --> 1:56:54.560 the neighborhood keeping it safe. 1:56:54.640 --> 1:56:59.080 He keeps gosh, I don't know, exacting like a hot 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:03.640 but guy, yeah, it does. 1:57:03.680 --> 1:57:05.800 It does feel safe having him up there. I felt 1:57:05.800 --> 1:57:07.360 safer with him in the in the in the room. 1:57:07.400 --> 1:57:11.960 Here our beef with affleck like practically squatched, knowing that 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:14.200 Sean's on our side. Now with that a doubt, with 1:57:14.240 --> 1:57:16.640 that a doubt. That was a fun episode. 1:57:16.840 --> 1:57:19.440 If I'm getting in like a bar fight once shown 1:57:19.480 --> 1:57:20.840 on My Team. 1:57:21.840 --> 1:57:25.800 Brawl, He's getting a pool stick, he's breaking a bottle, 1:57:25.920 --> 1:57:29.440 jabbing someone like, getting him in the gut. 1:57:29.320 --> 1:57:31.720 That's how you gotta do it. Maybe, yeah, hey, all 1:57:31.840 --> 1:57:32.240 is fair. 1:57:32.320 --> 1:57:39.920 The art of what he say, uh oh, mask, it's right. 1:57:40.360 --> 1:57:43.880 I mean the one goalie or the one ref to 1:57:43.920 --> 1:57:45.840 the two refs. He's like, yeah, you know, two refs 1:57:45.920 --> 1:57:46.440 is a little tough. 1:57:48.480 --> 1:57:51.440 Oh my god, two sets of eyes out there watching you. Man. 1:57:51.480 --> 1:57:53.400 That was fun. That was awesome, awesome. 1:57:53.840 --> 1:57:57.680 It's time for the Chill Zone, brought to you by 1:57:57.880 --> 1:57:58.600 cores Light. 1:57:59.200 --> 1:58:01.560 Get cores delivered straight to your door. 1:58:02.160 --> 1:58:07.960 Visitcorslight dot com, slash gwn celebrate responsibly. Today we're hitting 1:58:07.960 --> 1:58:11.600 the old hotline or should we say the cold line again? 1:58:11.960 --> 1:58:15.120 That number is four two four two nine one two 1:58:15.240 --> 1:58:16.600 two nine zero. 1:58:17.080 --> 1:58:18.200 Let's get into it. 1:58:19.960 --> 1:58:24.280 Hey, guys. So I'm a big Patriots fan, of course, 1:58:24.520 --> 1:58:29.120 and I lived through both dynasties. And one thing that 1:58:29.200 --> 1:58:34.360 they both had in common is of reliable passing down 1:58:35.120 --> 1:58:35.680 running back. 1:58:35.840 --> 1:58:39.640 So Jules played with both Kevin Falk. 1:58:39.760 --> 1:58:44.160 And H James White, and then Shanebourine was in the middle. 1:58:44.560 --> 1:58:47.920 I was wondering if you could compare and contrast them 1:58:48.240 --> 1:58:50.040 on the field and off the field. 1:58:50.360 --> 1:58:56.240 Thank you, wow, little scatbag love Well. Kevin Falk was 1:58:56.280 --> 1:59:00.760 like the innovator, uh, Kevin Falk had. We used to 1:59:00.840 --> 1:59:02.880 have a drill where you worked on your jump cuts 1:59:02.880 --> 1:59:04.880 in the off season with like ropes and ship and 1:59:04.960 --> 1:59:06.680 we used to call it the k Falk droll because 1:59:06.680 --> 1:59:09.040 he had such a good cutback. And people don't realize 1:59:09.560 --> 1:59:13.879 he's like I think n C two, a punt returner, 1:59:14.280 --> 1:59:17.280 like holds all the records. He was a monster. I 1:59:17.320 --> 1:59:21.160 learned a lot through from Kevin through like returning punts. 1:59:21.200 --> 1:59:22.920 I remember he used to teach me early on in 1:59:22.920 --> 1:59:23.440 my career. 1:59:24.800 --> 1:59:25.920 He was he was. 1:59:26.120 --> 1:59:28.280 He was only on the tail part of his career. 1:59:29.040 --> 1:59:31.520 When I was there, he was like one of the 1:59:31.560 --> 1:59:32.640 smartest players. 1:59:33.040 --> 1:59:33.919 He knew everything. 1:59:33.960 --> 1:59:36.160 You could tell he's been he'd been around for a while, 1:59:36.600 --> 1:59:38.680 and he had such a pedigree. He had so many 1:59:38.680 --> 1:59:41.080 big plays and he made a lot of big plays 1:59:41.120 --> 1:59:41.480 for us. 1:59:42.320 --> 1:59:43.240 That fourth and two. 1:59:43.160 --> 1:59:47.680 Against that was a first down against uh Indianapolis down. 1:59:48.000 --> 1:59:51.080 That was That was too k Falk. 1:59:51.160 --> 1:59:53.640 That and Kevin Falk was like the innovator of we 1:59:53.960 --> 1:59:56.160 of putting the running back in the slot. 1:59:56.240 --> 1:59:58.200 He could run routes in the slot. 1:59:58.240 --> 2:00:00.800 I mean, we used to have formations name off after 2:00:00.960 --> 2:00:04.640 Tiger LSU Tiger which put the you know, the h 2:00:04.760 --> 2:00:07.360 over in the slot over here. Like there was a 2:00:07.360 --> 2:00:09.560 bunch of stuff that was because of Kevin Falk. He 2:00:09.640 --> 2:00:11.720 was kind of like the innovator of the whole thing. 2:00:12.240 --> 2:00:14.240 Shane Vereen hold on before we move on from Kevin 2:00:14.280 --> 2:00:15.680 fuck Marshall Fuwx's cousin. 2:00:15.880 --> 2:00:19.000 Yeah, Marshall Falk's cousin, which Marshall Falk the thing. I mean, 2:00:19.040 --> 2:00:23.680 it's it's it's every like it's crazy. And Kate Falk 2:00:23.800 --> 2:00:26.680 was such an awesome veteran to be around. I loved 2:00:26.760 --> 2:00:29.360 Kate Falke. I owe him a lot he you know, 2:00:30.000 --> 2:00:32.200 I was I didn't know how to catch punts and shit, 2:00:32.280 --> 2:00:37.400 and and Bill would like he would like in organized 2:00:37.480 --> 2:00:40.160 team activities and mini camps and stuff, he'd like walk 2:00:40.240 --> 2:00:43.280 around you and make you nervous right when you were 2:00:43.320 --> 2:00:44.000 catching punts. 2:00:44.000 --> 2:00:46.320 And Kay Falk would always talk me off the ledge. 2:00:46.320 --> 2:00:47.200 So I love Kate Falk. 2:00:49.200 --> 2:00:52.080 Shane Verene one of my roommates, one of my favorite guys. 2:00:52.400 --> 2:00:54.520 He was just he was also the one thing in 2:00:54.560 --> 2:00:57.560 common with all of these guys. They were all really smart, 2:00:57.640 --> 2:01:02.360 smart guys, really smart football players, really great in protections 2:01:02.400 --> 2:01:03.720 because they're running back. 2:01:03.920 --> 2:01:05.280 They had they did it. 2:01:05.320 --> 2:01:07.960 They ran a lot of routes, but they also had 2:01:08.400 --> 2:01:11.120 to like know their protections. And all those guys could 2:01:11.160 --> 2:01:14.680 lay the wood and and pick up those linebackers and 2:01:14.760 --> 2:01:20.000 knew the protections very well. And then James White, you 2:01:20.000 --> 2:01:23.440 know Shane, I mean, he was just a great football 2:01:23.480 --> 2:01:26.200 player and he ended up leaving us, but huge part 2:01:26.240 --> 2:01:30.560 of why we won in fourteen at the record reception records. 2:01:30.640 --> 2:01:33.440 Yeah, and then it was beat by James White. 2:01:33.680 --> 2:01:37.360 You know, uh, you know, James White, like one of 2:01:37.400 --> 2:01:40.320 the best professionals, didn't say much when he talked. 2:01:40.400 --> 2:01:42.400 You knew it was. It was somewhat. 2:01:42.680 --> 2:01:45.440 It was important you listened because you didn't hear him talk, 2:01:45.640 --> 2:01:47.800 which he's doing great on TV right now. He's on 2:01:47.800 --> 2:01:49.920 the Big ten network, I believe, and he's killing it. 2:01:50.040 --> 2:01:52.000 I love watching him. I love listening to him on 2:01:52.080 --> 2:01:57.000 social Uh. But I think in order to play that 2:01:57.080 --> 2:02:00.000 position for us, those were all some of our smart 2:02:00.080 --> 2:02:01.640 this guys on our team. 2:02:02.160 --> 2:02:02.640 Uh. 2:02:02.680 --> 2:02:05.320 They all worked extremely hard, so they all had a 2:02:05.320 --> 2:02:06.240 lot of the same. 2:02:07.240 --> 2:02:10.000 Shout out the money Down Podcast, James. 2:02:09.440 --> 2:02:12.880 Money Down Podcast. All right, I got money down, money down. 2:02:13.520 --> 2:02:16.640 That's that's that's James Whitees. Yeah, money down. 2:02:16.520 --> 2:02:21.840 The Money Down Podcast. Oh, James, Jorge, that's what it is. 2:02:22.080 --> 2:02:24.760 Money down. Hey, what's up? Dog? You can't even give 2:02:24.800 --> 2:02:27.720 me on their dog? Got some third dollars here, dog? 2:02:28.320 --> 2:02:30.200 All right, good time for two more. Here we go. 2:02:30.520 --> 2:02:31.280 That was a good question. 2:02:31.560 --> 2:02:35.920 Hi everyone, I'm Angela from Dallas, Texas. Longtime listener, first 2:02:35.920 --> 2:02:39.680 time caller. In a few episodes, Julian has mentioned the 2:02:39.760 --> 2:02:43.400 Formula one. Is he F one fan or in general 2:02:43.600 --> 2:02:46.280 a fan of auto racing? I think it would be 2:02:46.320 --> 2:02:49.760 great if games with Names featured a F one race. 2:02:50.040 --> 2:02:54.160 Thank you F one fan. I wouldn't call like. 2:02:56.680 --> 2:03:00.200 The whole Netflix thing you got everyone excited about, and 2:03:00.280 --> 2:03:05.280 I loved. I love that old movie what was it Rush? 2:03:05.360 --> 2:03:06.920 Okay, that's not old old. 2:03:07.360 --> 2:03:09.600 That's ten years old now, bro, that's probably ten fifteen 2:03:09.640 --> 2:03:12.400 years old. Okay, when they talked about Ricky Lauda and 2:03:12.560 --> 2:03:18.600 Sam Hunt loved that story. I love race movies. I 2:03:18.640 --> 2:03:21.200 love Nascar. I like Nascar a little more than I 2:03:21.280 --> 2:03:24.560 like Formula one because I'm American. Okay, it seems a 2:03:24.600 --> 2:03:27.320 little more equal, Like the richest team in F one 2:03:27.400 --> 2:03:29.640 always wins. I love watching those guys. I love seeing 2:03:29.640 --> 2:03:31.600 the little feuds between what's. 2:03:31.400 --> 2:03:35.760 The the guy for Red Bull in one? 2:03:37.960 --> 2:03:40.720 Scott, what's the main guy? He's like the number one 2:03:40.720 --> 2:03:45.040 guy verse stopping. I just know that I got a 2:03:45.040 --> 2:03:48.960 bunch of watch it and I love it. And uh, who's. 2:03:50.160 --> 2:03:51.360 Danny? Uh? 2:03:51.480 --> 2:03:55.400 Daniel Daniel Riccardo. We've we have crossover, we have some 2:03:55.520 --> 2:03:58.480 mutual friends. So yeah, I know I I know his 2:03:58.600 --> 2:04:01.360 story a little bit that I think that would be cool. 2:04:01.360 --> 2:04:03.000 I would love to get a racer on just to 2:04:03.040 --> 2:04:06.120 pick their brain on how they how they like prepare. 2:04:06.240 --> 2:04:07.640 And you know there's all. 2:04:07.520 --> 2:04:13.560 These YouTube videos of of like in documentaries of how 2:04:13.600 --> 2:04:17.160 these guys prepare for their reaction and stuff, and actually 2:04:17.200 --> 2:04:19.920 have met in What's is Lewis Hamilton again? 2:04:20.000 --> 2:04:22.120 I met Mercedes? 2:04:22.200 --> 2:04:26.120 Yeah, just like it's always it's crazy, but I I 2:04:26.120 --> 2:04:27.640 I definitely respect those guys. 2:04:27.640 --> 2:04:29.280 Those guys are crazy, they're athletes. 2:04:29.800 --> 2:04:33.080 Yeah, and I, uh, but I'm more I would say 2:04:33.120 --> 2:04:36.480 I'm more of a nascargo, more of a core trick, 2:04:36.600 --> 2:04:37.760 cold trickle kind of guy. 2:04:38.600 --> 2:04:43.040 Hit me no call, he rubbed you. Rubbing is racing, 2:04:43.240 --> 2:04:45.360 all right, Angela, why do you send us back a 2:04:45.400 --> 2:04:48.000 game or a match or a race that we should do, Like, 2:04:48.080 --> 2:04:49.160 send us some more racist. 2:04:49.200 --> 2:04:52.120 I think I might do the jap the nineteen seventy 2:04:52.200 --> 2:04:57.880 nine Japan one when Ricky Lauda didn't race after his Like, 2:04:57.920 --> 2:04:59.520 we could do that one. It's the same. It's pretty 2:04:59.560 --> 2:05:03.120 much the movie the movie tam Hunt had to win qualify. 2:05:02.960 --> 2:05:06.680 It was a ballsy move, all right. Only only you 2:05:06.800 --> 2:05:07.560 tire heads would know. 2:05:08.960 --> 2:05:13.800 Hey, guys, great episode with how we long really enjoyed it. 2:05:14.600 --> 2:05:17.960 I have got a question for you, what about possibly 2:05:18.280 --> 2:05:22.240 having Stephen Ridley on as a guest? I think that 2:05:22.280 --> 2:05:25.440 would be fun. Thanks bye one. 2:05:26.280 --> 2:05:27.200 He's been around lately. 2:05:27.320 --> 2:05:31.280 He's been around. Yeah, yeah, we uh quick fun story 2:05:31.320 --> 2:05:33.560 about me and Rid. And by the way, Howie was 2:05:33.600 --> 2:05:38.840 so fun. He makes I feel like, you know, put 2:05:38.840 --> 2:05:41.320 a good performance around him. He's like a dad figure 2:05:41.640 --> 2:05:42.040 at work. 2:05:42.640 --> 2:05:42.800 You know. 2:05:42.840 --> 2:05:45.440 I feel like, you don't want this my dad, you know, 2:05:45.440 --> 2:05:47.760 because I have some of the I'm friends with his son, 2:05:47.880 --> 2:05:49.080 so it's like one of your boys. 2:05:49.640 --> 2:05:52.840 Did they say anything after, like, oh we did? Okay, clear, 2:05:53.720 --> 2:05:56.120 I haven't heard back. Haven't heard me and Chris talk, 2:05:56.200 --> 2:05:58.480 but we don't. I don't know. I always forget what 2:05:58.520 --> 2:06:00.000 we talk about. You gotta get Chris back in this year. 2:06:00.040 --> 2:06:02.800 We gotta get christ and Kyle. He's my favorite one. 2:06:03.240 --> 2:06:05.120 He's my favorite guy. I love Kyle. 2:06:05.120 --> 2:06:07.600 We gotta get HOIGHI long Junior, see what I don't know? 2:06:07.800 --> 2:06:11.360 The Raiders sales departments up too. Yeah, we got it. 2:06:11.440 --> 2:06:12.760 But getting back to Rid. 2:06:13.720 --> 2:06:16.200 Just had Rid at the house post fire two days 2:06:16.240 --> 2:06:19.360 after bring him out. Probably shouldn't be going where we 2:06:19.360 --> 2:06:23.680 were going towards Pala States. All of a sudden, and 2:06:23.760 --> 2:06:26.520 we and people are looking at us. You know, we're 2:06:26.600 --> 2:06:30.680 driving in Brentwood and and and like Santa Monica, the 2:06:31.040 --> 2:06:33.440 like north of Montana. People are looking at us. We 2:06:33.480 --> 2:06:36.360 have like masks on run fucking Super seventy three. He's 2:06:36.400 --> 2:06:38.839 looking at us like we're looters. All of a sudden, 2:06:39.080 --> 2:06:42.680 we're going by two people and I look in the 2:06:42.680 --> 2:06:44.680 corner of my eye. Rid is trying to show off 2:06:44.680 --> 2:06:47.280 and going like sidewalk through a jump because he's really 2:06:47.320 --> 2:06:50.920 like supermoto cross kind of guy, and fucking does this. 2:06:51.040 --> 2:06:53.000 I look at the corner, mind, I just see Ridley 2:06:53.120 --> 2:06:58.000 parallel with the side sidewalk and it's it. He goes, oh, 2:06:58.200 --> 2:07:00.280 he fucking fell off the bike. I was like, and 2:07:00.320 --> 2:07:02.920 so I couldn't stop laughing in front of people. I'm like, see, 2:07:02.920 --> 2:07:06.720 we're not looters, We're just regular people. It was fucking crazy, 2:07:07.480 --> 2:07:08.800 But yeah, we got to get rid of le On. 2:07:08.800 --> 2:07:14.520 It'd be a real fun episode. Cool, great voicemails. You 2:07:14.520 --> 2:07:16.720 gotta keep them coming, guys. Those are some really in 2:07:16.840 --> 2:07:18.560 depth questions. What was her name from? 2:07:18.600 --> 2:07:21.280 Uh, Angela Angela, Angela Angela? 2:07:21.720 --> 2:07:23.480 And then who was the we didn't get a name 2:07:23.480 --> 2:07:25.840 for the We didn't get a name for the running 2:07:25.880 --> 2:07:26.880 back we need? 2:07:26.960 --> 2:07:29.640 We had a questions running back the show before? Who 2:07:29.720 --> 2:07:31.840 have we had a pat patriot running back on the 2:07:31.840 --> 2:07:32.360 show before? 2:07:32.400 --> 2:07:33.680 I don't know, but we have to get we have 2:07:33.800 --> 2:07:35.280 we have some guys that we gotta get on. 2:07:35.360 --> 2:07:36.000 We need to do that. 2:07:36.040 --> 2:07:39.320 We got to get kave Halkong guys. Keep them coming. 2:07:39.600 --> 2:07:42.240 That was awesome. That was the chill zone. 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