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Speaker 2: Welcome to Games with Names.

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Speaker 3: I'm Julian Edelman, and there Jack and Kyler, and we're

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Speaker 3: on a mission to find the greatest game of all time.

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Speaker 3: And on today's episode, we are covering Devil's versus Rangers

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Speaker 3: Game three of the two thousand and eight Eastern Conference

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Speaker 3: Quarterfinals aka the Averrul Game, with actor and NHL legend

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Speaker 3: the Avery rule maker, Sean Avery, and we get into

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Speaker 3: talking the origins of this infamous Avery rule.

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Speaker 1: So like, I was so far up this guy's ass

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, Brett Hole story.

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Speaker 1: My buddies had left these pot brownies in the fridge

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Speaker 1: and he ate three of them, just like threats.

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Speaker 2: In the walking closet.

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Speaker 1: He's been doing snow Angels since like four in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and then acting in the Christopher Nolan movie A Nolan said,

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Speaker 1: there's no cell phones generally, I black out.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like like playing for Belichick. Yes,

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Speaker 3: a direct parallel and on today's Chill Zone presented by

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Speaker 3: Corps Light, we're hitting the old hotline, or you could

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Speaker 3: say the cold line to answer some of those voicemails.

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Speaker 3: You gotta stick around for it, So let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 1: April thirteen, two thousand and eight, Madison Square. I got

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Speaker 1: New York, New York tied one to one. The New

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Speaker 1: York Rangers have a two man advantage. Call it tactics,

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Speaker 1: call it antics, call it effectively. In the end, I'll

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Speaker 1: never see anything like this.

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Speaker 2: This is the Avery rule game. Welcome to Games with

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Speaker 2: Names Today.

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Speaker 3: We are looking at Devils versus Rangers, game three of

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Speaker 3: the two thousand and eight Eastern Conference Final quarterfinals, that

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Speaker 3: Avery rule game with the one and only Sean Avery.

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Speaker 2: Sean in one sentence, why this game?

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Speaker 1: I went to bed, I woke up in the morning

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Speaker 1: and they had changed the rule.

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Speaker 2: Is this the greatest game of all time. It's my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if I could, maybe, if I may, if

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Speaker 1: they yeah, wild wild, the whole thing is fucking wild.

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Speaker 2: It is it is.

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Speaker 3: Let's jump into what's what's life looking like these days

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Speaker 3: for you?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Boy, these days? You know, I was thinking about that

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Speaker 1: this morning. Life is quite beautiful. Yeah, it's a good,

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Speaker 1: it's a good. I just did a I'm an actor now,

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Speaker 1: You know, like actors say they're actors. But if you're

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Speaker 1: By the way, you're airwaves right now. I mean you

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Speaker 1: there's commercial actors. There are commercial actors. I would rather

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Speaker 1: I'm a Thespian. I'm a Thespian. Although I just did

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Speaker 1: Happy Gilmour too. So how is that?

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, Sandler is is like God, he really is,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now do you want like when when when you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, would you say I'm Sean Avery?

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Speaker 1: I think I said, hey, Julian, I know who you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sean Avery. He used to play hockey. But I

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there. I was like, is that fucking

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Speaker 2: Hey, the neighborhood appreciates the neighbor.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny getting back, how do you so when

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Speaker 3: Are you are you watching? Are you doing ride alongs?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I do these fucking auditions and all these words

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Speaker 1: It depends what age they have them. Wahlberg would be

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Speaker 1: so you're on stage doing your thing, Like there's a teleprompter.

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Speaker 3: It was the first time, and it was like it's

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Speaker 3: I went to this. I went to the store. It's intimate,

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Speaker 2: It was tough. Yeah. I prepared for that shit.

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Speaker 1: five times. A couple of times it's gone, well, a

435
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Speaker 1: couple of times it hasn't. Hasn't you get did you

436
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Speaker 1: get anyone under anyone's skin?

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

438
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Speaker 1: But yeah, crowd work is like that's improv. Yeah, because

439
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: you gotta move, you gotta just you gotta work off. Yeah,

440
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: that's the type of comic I love. I love crowd

441
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Speaker 1: work guys. Yeah, you're you're really great on it. I

442
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Speaker 1: mean you display it on Instagram through your story in

443
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: your TikTok you said you broke the algorithm.

444
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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of improv work. When you're doing

445
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Speaker 3: live games making fun of guys with an eraser whatever,

446
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: you have a pencil, an eraser, the pointer.

447
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Speaker 2: The pointer. So that are you working your improv while

448
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: you're doing that as well? Yeah?

449
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So you're working. That's work, that's time on task.

450
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Speaker 1: Oh it's not free. I mean, no one's paying me

451
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Speaker 1: yet except I'm the whole thing bank no o bank.

452
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get into the TikTok Creators program, Yeah,

453
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: which is a program that if you meet certain requirements,

454
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Speaker 1: you get into this program. The deeper I got into it.

455
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Speaker 1: I realized that TikTok, in my opinion, is like ready

456
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Speaker 1: Player won the movie. Like I think that we're all

457
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Speaker 1: going to be living in TikTok soon. You can buy,

458
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Speaker 1: you can sell. There's people making a million dollars a

459
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Speaker 1: year selling candy on TikTok live candy stores. Anyways, long

460
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Speaker 1: story short, I got obsessed with TikTok. They weren't letting

461
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Speaker 1: me and the creators program because they said my content

462
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Speaker 1: was an original, which I couldn't understand because I go, guys,

463
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm basically doing my own play by play. I'm

464
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Speaker 1: making up all these jokes or anything that I'm saying.

465
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Speaker 1: It's my It's as original as you can get. The

466
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Speaker 1: problem was is that the algo, the algorithm, the algo,

467
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Speaker 1: it's based on shapes. So if you go on TikTok,

468
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Speaker 1: you'll see a kid doing a review about the Housewives

469
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Speaker 1: with like call of Duty underneath in this split screen.

470
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Speaker 1: Because the algorithm like shapes, it thinks that you're being original.

471
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Speaker 1: So I go, Okay, what the fuck am I going

472
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Speaker 1: to do? I got to solve this problem, Like I'm

473
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Speaker 1: not quitting. I got to figure this out. Yeah, so

474
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Speaker 1: I basically merged the future with the old, and I

475
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Speaker 1: went on Amazon and I bought a pointer stick. And

476
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Speaker 1: now I do a play by play with a pointer

477
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Speaker 1: stick which is exploding on tict It's.

478
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Speaker 3: Gotta be hard to to I see how you. I

479
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: can't see the puck ever, so you're following the puck.

480
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Speaker 3: It's good for that.

481
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Speaker 2: You like it. I like it.

482
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Speaker 1: They tried to do a glow puck. Fox tried to

483
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Speaker 1: glow the puck. Remember back in the day. It didn't work.

484
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Speaker 1: You can't glow a pocket. Yeah, but you know, it's

485
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Speaker 1: taken me. It's a dexterity game. That word I almost

486
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: didn't get. It's a dexterity game. I had to get,

487
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Speaker 1: you know, depth perception because I got a fucking phone

488
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Speaker 1: in one hand.

489
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting on a little, tiny, little kid's chair.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I got a you know, the screen on

491
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Speaker 1: the phone and the TV screen it's only so big.

492
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Speaker 1: So it's it's this whole science. Anyways, the pointer stick

493
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Speaker 1: is blowing up and people love it. And uh, it's

494
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Speaker 1: all improv I'm on the fly. I make it fun

495
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: and some jokes and stuff. Yeah, it's funny. I think

496
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Speaker 1: it's entertaining. I'm not a big hockey guy, but that

497
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: brings me to hockey. The chick lit dudes bring me

498
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Speaker 1: to hockey.

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Speaker 3: I have to have pop culture with hockey, right because

500
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 3: I'm American. You've worked with Nolan, David o' russell and

501
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Speaker 3: Peter Berg. What's unique about their style and who's your

502
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Speaker 3: favorite to work with? Well, so I've made multiple movies

503
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Speaker 3: and Nolan and Nolan. But Pete Burg, who made Friday

504
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Speaker 3: Night Lights and Fuck Loane Survivor. Yeah, I work at

505
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Speaker 3: his gym.

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Speaker 1: Chur Churchill your box there, Yeah, tried to Yeah my

507
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Speaker 1: ass beat You know, Pete once got me beat up

508
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Speaker 1: by a boxer. I've heard the story a thousand times.

509
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Speaker 2: I just did.

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Chellios. I saw Chris Cellios like three weeks ago.

511
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Speaker 1: He goes, oh, he goes, dude, Pete showed me a video.

512
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Speaker 1: You get I said, he's showing that video he filmed

513
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Speaker 1: me get fucking beat up by a boxer. Can you

514
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Speaker 1: showing our friends? Can you explain this story? I don't

515
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Speaker 1: even know. He was like, come down to the gym

516
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Speaker 1: and box. I got a guy for you to box.

517
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Speaker 1: And this was like we're coming out of COVID and

518
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Speaker 1: I I'd been running sixty miles a week and like,

519
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: I now do jiu jitsu, which is great and beautiful

520
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: and it like changed my life. But at that point

521
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: I was looking for some sort of blend of like

522
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Speaker 1: maybe a combat sport. And he brings me down to

523
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Speaker 1: his gym and I got the living shit beat out

524
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Speaker 1: of me by a boxer in his gym. I was

525
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: wearing somebody else's mouthguard. Pete's like kind of a The

526
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Speaker 1: way he teaches lessons sometimes is the difficult way. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: I think with certain people tough. He's very He's a director,

528
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: you know he knows and I think when you have

529
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Speaker 1: a director, who's your friend and so. But anyways, Pete,

530
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Speaker 1: it's fun to make a movie with Pete Burg because

531
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Speaker 1: he's like loose.

532
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Speaker 4: You know.

533
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Speaker 1: There's different sets. A Nolan set, there's no cell phones.

534
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: Generally I blackout. I don't remember, like, I don't really

535
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Speaker 1: remember much from Oppenheimer. I sat in a car with

536
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Matt Damon and killing Murphy for like six hours. I

537
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: have no idea what I talked about, no clue. I

538
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: hope to ask them one day, like, do you guys

539
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: remember that? I doubt they will. But but Pete it's

540
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: loose and it's fun and he can he throws shit

541
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Speaker 1: at you. You know, it's like a coach, you gotta

542
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Any sets that are fun and comfortable, like

543
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Speaker 1: Sandler set is fun.

544
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: But there's also different styles of coaching.

545
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Speaker 1: Listen, I I prefer the Nolan Asques set when we

546
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Speaker 1: made tenant.

547
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: But you got to be there mentally as an actor

548
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: every day, you know. But like I bet you it's

549
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 3: it's for a newer actor. It's on a looser set.

550
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: It's probably easier because the tension. But if you go

551
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Speaker 3: onto a tight ship a Nolan something, you know the

552
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: stakes and you know that everyone's bringing their a game always.

553
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so juicy.

554
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like like playing for Belichick. Yes,

555
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: that structure it is.

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Speaker 1: I would say that that would be uh a direct

557
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: parallel those two guys. And like the level of efficiency. Yeah,

558
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: we're not here, there's no fucking around, there's no fucking around,

559
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: and every minute is used in the minute. It's productive. Yeah,

560
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: by the way, golf collapse for Bill, he's everywhere living

561
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Speaker 1: the life. What do you mean? I mean he looks

562
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: like he's having fun. He puzzle tough, Bill, enjoy your

563
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: enjoy life.

564
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Speaker 2: He's enjoying life, all right.

565
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: It's so cool. And he's a human. Yeah, we now

566
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: see him.

567
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Speaker 3: That's what that's what we we witnessed, right, he just

568
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: very occasionally, Right, let's strip your fucking head off.

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Speaker 1: I played for Scotty Bowman, who I think would be

570
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: the equivalent of Belichick as far as the hockey coach.

571
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: And Scotty would come in and he would yell like

572
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Speaker 1: if there was something that he wanted to talk about,

573
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: he would address it in the completely opposite way. And

574
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: it was always mental warfare. Yeah, with somebody in the room,

575
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: like he was a mastermind. You get in the saana

576
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: with this guy talk about like, what's your favorite food

577
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: from back home? Like, what do you mean back home?

578
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Like Canada? I like wieners and beans. You know what

579
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: wieners and beans are, Frankie beans. Yeah, yeah, we call

580
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: him wieners and beans.

581
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

582
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: He was like the most He was like a gentle giant,

583
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Speaker 1: like a teddy bear.

584
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

585
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: So that's what I see from Bill now is that

586
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: that you know, if you.

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Speaker 3: Don't talk to him about any strategic stuff going into

588
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 3: like a game week and you bring in like a

589
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: regular life. He's a regular human, right, breathing air. I

590
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: don't have about that yet. I'm still waiting on that. Lastly,

591
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: what's the director you want to work with? Is you

592
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: shot right here? They may watch it? Yes, let's see.

593
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: I'd like to be on an Olivia Wild movie.

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Speaker 2: O Wild like that? Yeah, see what's popping over there?

595
00:30:59,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: You know?

596
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Speaker 1: I mean I'd like to work for a woman. Catherine Bigelow.

597
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Hurt Locker. Yeah.

598
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's a couple that are I'd like to

599
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: work for for. I've never worked for a woman, yeah

600
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: ever in my life really, so it just artistically, I

601
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: feel like it would be like the ReVibe.

602
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: Something would be different. Yeah, it wouldn't be so rigid,

603
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, they could pull a different string from you maybe.

604
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, I like that vibe.

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00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need some more girls. We got Leah need

607
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: some girls. Well, everybody's you know, coming out of their shell.

608
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Speaker 1: I think it's it's a fun time.

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00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: It is it is.

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Speaker 1: Did I smoke it here? You can smoke wherever you

611
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: want of this nut hoouse. Okay, that's what the studio

612
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Speaker 1: is called in.

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Speaker 3: These Wow, look at this let's go back into time

614
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: around when the game took place. This game took place

615
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Speaker 3: on April thirteenth, two thousand and nine. And we like

616
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Speaker 3: to talk over pop culture. Number one movie prom Night

617
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: didn't see it?

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00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: Did you? Or two thousand and eight? Why did I

619
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: say two thousand and nine? I don't just living in

620
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: the future, baby, living in the future, I'll tell you movie.

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Speaker 1: And number one song from two thousand and eight doesn't

622
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Speaker 1: feel two thousand and eight to.

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Speaker 2: Me, right. I don't even touch my body. I don't

624
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: know how does it go? Jack touch my body? That's

625
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: all I remember.

626
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I went to Maria Carry's concerts first. Really, yeah, wow,

627
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool.

628
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: There's a picture of that somewhere there is. I did

629
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Speaker 3: not see no me either. This is when movie? Is

630
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: this the start of movies going bad?

631
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, iron Man hit theaters. Iron Man hit theater.

632
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Speaker 5: This was the first Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, if you're

633
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: not counting Howard the Duck back in like the eighties

634
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Speaker 5: or nine.

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Speaker 2: I loved Howard Technically, Howard the Duck is the first

636
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: of the shout out. That's like, my parents, let me

637
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: watch that movie.

638
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine too, And I look back watching that movie, Like, yeah,

639
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: they probably shouldn't have let me watched that movie because.

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00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: Duck is like with a girl tits in a bathtub.

641
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, something crazy. He was a wild character.

642
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: Wild.

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00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: David Blaine sets the Guinness World Record for holding his

644
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Speaker 3: breath for seventeen minutes in four and a half seconds.

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Speaker 1: I just remember seeing him at Butter on Monday Nights. Butter, Yes, Butter,

646
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Speaker 1: old Butter. People don't know about old Butter. Butter was

647
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Speaker 1: the spot fun. Where is that New York?

648
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Speaker 2: Right?

649
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was past. I never went to Butter. I

650
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: went to like Up and Down. Yeah, it was the same,

651
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: you know it was that Yeah, that group. Yeah, that

652
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: was supposed to be the spot. Yeah, Butter was fun.

653
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: We used to go there a lot. What was life

654
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: like for Sean Avery in two thousand and eight?

655
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: Butter too fast? You're just going to Butter way too fast?

656
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: Butter.

657
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Uh Provocateur. The Beatrice, No, we we we went to

658
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: this place. There was a club in the West Village

659
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: called the Beatrice, in which is the probably the It

660
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: had the greatest three year run out of one of

661
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: the best ever in New York.

662
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: It was in a basement.

663
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: But you know, you play in New York, Like you

664
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: play on Monday night. You got a Monday game or

665
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday game in February. The club, the bar, it's it's

666
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: on fire every night every night, especially in two thousand

667
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: and eight, because cell phones still weren't that you know,

668
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: you couldn't get that clear shot. Demwa didn't exist. There

669
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: was a lot of things that that we didn't have

670
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: to worry.

671
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't me. It wasn't me.

672
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: It wasn't me. It was the New York City athlete.

673
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: Seemed like, did you see like the Yankees out you see.

674
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Did you live in the city, Yeah, I lived in

675
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: the city where you live in West Village, I lived.

676
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Uh No, I lived at Grand and Mercer, which is

677
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: like Prime Prime, soho Prime? And No, you never saw

678
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: any of the Yankees at uh. Joba yeah Joba yeah, yeah, yeah,

679
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: Joba got out. He was fun like I used to

680
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: see him in Boston. Sometimes he likes to get after

681
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: you get after it. He was around, uh and then

682
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: oh the dark night. Harvey Harvey, Matt Harvey. I used

683
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: to see Matt Harvey out a lot. Matt Harvey went

684
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: out way too much. Let's just say that we'll leave

685
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: that for another time, and I'm not sure what year

686
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: watched the Throne came out, but like I remember being

687
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in the in the studio watching those guys like lay

688
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: a track down in like the Submercer which was underneath

689
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: the Mercer Hotel.

690
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: And so.

691
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Twenty eleven you were you were at some of those, right,

692
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: But when did they make it came out?

693
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Released in twenty eleven? Let me see when they were.

694
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: I think they're so you know, New York was like

695
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: New York's fun, That's that's what was going on. Jay

696
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce got married that year.

697
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, twenty ten. It looks like it started a right,

698
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: So it was right around that time. You know, that

699
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 6: vibe of the city was still going. So Kobe won

700
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: his loan.

701
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Wait wait, in two thousand and eight, you interned at Vogue.

702
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: I did that in the summer, in the summer. What

703
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: was up with that? Why'd you do that?

704
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Like fashion? Yeah? I liked fashion.

705
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: I liked being in the mix probably more, yeah, but

706
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I also was fucking nuts and like wanted to do

707
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: something in the summer.

708
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: You know, some guys go home and I don't know,

710
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: they build a cabin or a garage, like I was

711
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: in the city. I wasn't leaving. There was no way

712
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: I was leaving. Yeah, the Hamptons, and yeah, I just

713
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: dove right in and uh but that was an amazing experience,

714
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: you know.

715
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: Without a doubt.

716
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: I used to go to I used to go to

717
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: Men's Fashion Week a bunch early in my career, right,

718
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: and just kind of learn it. And then, you know,

719
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: I did collaborations with Joe's Jeans and Pas Jackets just

720
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: because I built those relationships and I did have an

721
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: interest in fashion. I like, I wanted to wear clothes

722
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: that I I made. Yeah, you know, and it's it

723
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: was cool, it was fun. I would love to get

724
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: my hands on a pair of those Joe jeans.

725
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: I'll get you something.

726
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: They're athletic fit, Yes, they're athletic fit, but you know

727
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: there it's more of it's a good comfy jean.

728
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: I would love to stretchy. They got stretching it. They're

729
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: stretched a little elastine a little. I don't wear jeans

730
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: without a little elast.

731
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: You know what I like. I like the vintage old jeans,

732
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 2: those already broken in for you baby. Yeah.

733
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: I like those levices yeah, yeah out there and didn't you.

734
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: You kind of invented the tunnel walk, didn't you, He

735
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: claims the game. I've heard this is a high claim.

736
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: So I used to work with like super Dry and

737
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: all these and they needed a picture, and so I

738
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: would I would. I would go to the Patriots like, yo,

739
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: I need a picture on game day, snap me so

740
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: I can tag them.

741
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: So you're telling me, well, first of all, then the

742
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: entire NFL should send you a thank you.

743
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: Amen, brother, I don't know.

744
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: He's in fucking Kelsey is a Travis Drive. He should

745
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: thank you everybody, every every walk that has been done.

746
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Now that's a hell of a claim. If you're claiming

747
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: that that was you, I believe.

748
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: It's completely me.

749
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: But I was one of the first to be doing

750
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: those things because I feel like I used to have

751
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: game day fits. I used to theme ship up hell yes,

752
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: coming in there looking cross eye, looking like a war hero,

753
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: goo themes like yeah. Because when you had home games

754
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: you got to wear you didn't have to wear suit,

755
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: really yeah, you had to wear suit on away games.

756
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: So if it was Halloween, you could kind of lean

757
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: into it a little bit.

758
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: What Miles Garrett does well.

759
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: Garrett for the Cleveland Uh Cleveland Browns. That dude like

760
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: gets crazy like a game at one o'clock. I have

761
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: the fucking makeup crew at his house at like five am.

762
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: So he looks crazy for the goddamn like he's getting

763
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: for the Megala.

764
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: You invented the tunnel wall. I don't know if I

765
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: invented it, but I was one of the leaders. I

766
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: was one of the founders, one of the forefathers, one

767
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: of the foe By the way, entrepreneurial, I can't say

768
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: that word. That's a tough word to say, but you

769
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: were then being it right, you.

770
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: Know, that's what That's what the United States of America is,

771
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: just a land of entrepreneurs amen, just taking fit pigs.

772
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: And I actually went to a fashion show with fucking

773
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: your boy Cohen. Oh Andy, yeah to each other. There's

774
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: a picture. Look at these guys.

775
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, guys, look like, what is that a Tom

776
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Ford show?

777
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: No?

778
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: I think it was Jesus, what's the American Ralph flauren?

779
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: No, another one.

780
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: It's not Tom Ford or Tom Brown. No, that's not

781
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: Ralph floren No. That wasn't it was, Oh my god,

782
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: another American. It was like, it's a traditional American brand.

783
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: They have. Oh, that's Joseph Aboud, did.

784
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: You jose who made his suits at a factory in Buffalo.

785
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had the they had the long shoulder

786
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: for the American man because they're a little boulder.

787
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Joseph Aboud is one of the greatest men's suit American

788
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: men's suit designers of all time. Like he he owns

789
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: that silhouette. Yeah, that's wild. Who's the guy on the right,

790
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: don't know, but he's handsome. He looks like a buff Diplo.

791
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: He does look like a buff. Sorry, no, he looks

792
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: like a u if Diplo wasn't a DJ in the

793
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: sports world.

794
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: In two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, Stanley

795
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: Cup champions, the Detroit Red Wings.

796
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: You gotta need Detroit. It was just they were pretty

797
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: good on fire over here. Yeah, they were still ripping it. Uh.

798
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two is my rookie year. Yeah, they

799
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: they won. Yeah, I mean, what a fucking team. They

800
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: were essentially the Patriots of the NHL.

801
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: In my opinion, they were.

802
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Yes, why twelve Hall of famers. You're gonna be in

803
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, by the way, I don't know,

804
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. Is it a debate, like it's yeah, I

805
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't have the regular season numbers.

806
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: Who cares? You had them numbers when it mattered most babies. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: but that's what a lot of people think. Really.

808
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but multiple rings, many rings, I just put them on.

809
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few of them. Yeah.

810
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: Detroit was was full of legends. And also I think

811
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: what's different about like New England Detroit Red Wings original

812
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: six teams? So Ted lindsay, fuck they they had Gordy Howe,

813
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: Like the history of that organization is deep.

814
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: But that that history our organization is not that deep.

815
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: We were in nineteen sixty were that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

816
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: So if we were like a giant or something, that's

817
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: who the founding fathers are, like the Giants, the Bears, right,

818
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: those are like the oldest clubs, right, but that's Detroit,

819
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: Detroit definitely.

820
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: M VP Tom Brady, MVP Tom Brady.

821
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: What about Ovechkin? This guy, this guy's about to bake

822
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: break the record, isn't he?

823
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? What are your thoughts? You You played against him?

824
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 4: Right?

825
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: What a gas tank on him? Holy shit? I mean

826
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: he he's unbelievable. He just keeps getting bigger and slower

827
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: and hits harder and shoots harder. Like he's adapted as

828
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: he's gotten older. He's sort of his game is adapted,

829
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: but the end result is all the same.

830
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: He still scores. Is he the Lebron of hockey? Wow?

831
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: Because that's what it's kind of like, he's lasting people

832
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: and he's.

833
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. That's a good company.

834
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like Lebron, he's he's still playing at an

835
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: insane level and this guy is fucking forty.

836
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, he's doing it big time.

837
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's possibly going to break Gretzky's record, right,

838
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: He's close. No one ever thought that that would happen ever.

839
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was so astronomical, little like like no

840
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: one was going to beat that. Patrick Patrick came the

841
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: greatest American born player. I guess at this point he

842
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: was drafted one overall. Where's he from?

843
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo area? Northern? Oh he's a Buffalo guy.

844
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, because he beat up a cab driver

845
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo one summer.

846
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: Did that just give you a little that that's like?

847
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: Like it? He liked it.

848
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean when I saw that hit the ticker, I

849
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: was like, fucking Patty came boy having a summer. That's

850
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: my guy. Yeah, that's my kind of guy. Tobe won

851
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: his last m v P. That's sad.

852
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: His only his only regular season MVP. That's sick. He's

853
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 2: a lone hated him. He was too good. That's shot.

854
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: By the way, can I take a shot? Are you

855
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: on any networks with Alex Rodriguez?

856
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

857
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: Wow, Alex is so juicy, He's like purple. I was

858
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: watching the finals. You know, these guys get so juicy.

859
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: Their heads they're purple. They turn purple and their skin

860
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: gets like translucent a rod bro, take your foot off

861
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: the das over there.

862
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: Well, he won MVP this year. He was juicy this year.

863
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: Juicy al MVP, ju Jackie.

864
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: Let's break down these New Jersey's popping out these devils

865
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: real quick.

866
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 5: This was the first year of the Brent Sutter era,

867
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 5: leading the team for all you Brent Sutter heads out there,

868
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: forty six twenty nine and seven. Finished fourth in the

869
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 5: Eastern Division, second in the Atlantic. They were not a

870
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 5: real high scoring team here, twenty six out of thirty

871
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: two hundred and six goals on the season, and then

872
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 5: the other way not that great either. Let up one

873
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: hundred ninety seven, and this was the opening year of

874
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 5: the Prudential Center, famous through the PRU baby down there

875
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: in Jersey shut out eleven times during the season, which

876
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: was a regular season high, and Marty Brodor got his

877
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: five hundredth women this season. Some dude talk, this was

878
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 5: bro Door, This was uh John Madden.

879
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: This was this is kind of tail end of that run. Yeah,

880
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: still some guys hanging on from the.

881
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yet White still on there from the three team

882
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 6: con weeks.

883
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: Who's killing it?

884
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 3: I see you looking at this, I see you looking

885
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: at the roster right now, and you're liking a focus

886
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: right now. What's the first thing coming to your fucking mind.

887
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: What's what's so crazy is that my feud with bro

888
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: Dure was so fierce, fierce terrible, like really nasty and

889
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: mean that I had no idea Brent Sutter was even

890
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: the coach of the New Jersey Devils.

891
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: That was the first thing.

892
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I had no fucking clue who the coach was. I

893
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: have no recollection of ever even looking over.

894
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: Look at that, he's doing the math in his head.

895
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: That's the fucking coach.

896
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: When Sutter was the coach of the Devils that year,

897
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: I had no idea, but like the feud had been

898
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: going on for years, so it was so fucking heated

899
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: anytime we went there, and we called it the Rock

900
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: or they call it the Rock that that rink sucks.

901
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: It's the worst. And it's in Newark, New Jersey, which

902
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: is the hell on earth. Basically what started this feud

903
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: with burndor that's how we stay in Canada, Brod. My

904
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: first game getting traded from LA to the Rangers was

905
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: against the New Jersey Devils in New Jersey and.

906
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: It was just like perfect storm, you know, So were

907
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: you pissed that you had to lead LA?

908
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: No?

909
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: I was so happy.

910
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: It was literally like Phoenix rising, like I was being

911
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: reborn and I get to play the first game in

912
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: New Jersey on the road. I'm gonna fucking turn it

913
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: on so much. He like, everyone is gonna know who

914
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: I am tomorrow in the New York area and New Jersey,

915
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: which they definitely did right across there. Yeah, it was

916
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: that game. It was like it was like that game.

917
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 2: And so what started this feud with him?

918
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I ran him that game pretty fucking hard like, which

919
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: is not a lot. It would be like after the

920
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: kicker kicks a field goal if you ran full speed

921
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: and just dropped your shoulder into the kicker and killed him,

922
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: the extra point kicker, not the guy that kicks at

923
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: the beginning, Like, what's he called the field goal kicker?

924
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both the same guy, they are. Yeah, so

925
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: you go out, you take them out? Was that just

926
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: because you wanted to let everyone know I'm here, I'm

927
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: fucking Sean Avery, I'm arriving to New York.

928
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: It just happened to be. You make it here, you

929
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: make it anywhere. Yep. Yeah, bright lights, big city.

930
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see the city from New York, so

931
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm basically there. It just so happened to be the

932
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: most famous winning goaltender of all time, maybe one of

933
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: the greatest school well yeah, probably possibly the greatest goaltender

934
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: of all time.

935
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: Do you still hate him? No, No, you respect him?

936
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I thank him, fucking yeah.

937
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

938
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: He did a lot for me. I mean you need

939
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: players like that on the other side.

940
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it.

941
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: That's there's healthy to have a little hate between teams. Yeah,

942
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: it's getting too you know, it's too nice to buddy buddy.

943
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Now.

944
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: That makes there's there's a hatred in between the lines

945
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: or on the ice. But there's always a respect once

946
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: you leave. Yeah, you know, we turn into different humans

947
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: when you're in there, at least I do.

948
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: Well, No I do. I didn't.

949
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: And in this particular situation, what sort of poured gasoline

950
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: on the fire?

951
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: Was I took it to?

952
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 7: Like?

953
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: Uh, I took it to a place that you probably

954
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: shouldn't take it to. There were no rules with me

955
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: and bro Durham. Bro Dorr was going through some shit

956
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: on his own whatever. It's kind of it's weird, all right.

957
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: They called him uncle daddy and there was all this

958
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: weird shit that went on.

959
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: Nothing like.

960
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: I think he hooked up with his wife's sister, right,

961
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened, And.

962
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: That was did you let him know that? Yes? That

963
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: was part of the feud.

964
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: Part of the feud was was I took it to

965
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: a place that it shouldn't have gone?

966
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: So how a lot? So you're you're a big research

967
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: guy for your rules.

968
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: You researched other goalies, absolutely, and you you wanted.

969
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: To know everything that made them tick.

970
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: I call him touch points that what's what's another touch

971
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: point you had with the guy?

972
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: If my left winger fucked his sister in junior or college.

973
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

974
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that, but that I just went

975
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: into that sick mode, you know what I mean, Like

976
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: that's what guys say. I'm sorry, you know if in

977
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: the NHL at that point in time, like it was, Yeah,

978
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: it was ruthless, it was. It was with certain guys,

979
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: and I played with a couple of guys. Steve Ott

980
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: was also very good at it. You know, we were

981
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: small guys in a big league and you did anything

982
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: you could just survive. And it wasn't just you know,

983
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: because we're allowed to do it, and football you're not

984
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: allowed to do it. Yeah, you know, you get a flag,

985
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: You get a flag right away. Here they don't do that.

986
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: You can, you can. The jarring and the ship talking

987
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: is NonStop. It's NonStop between the benches. Every time a

988
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: guy skates by the bench, it's it's just like it's

989
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: like recess with your boys.

990
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: Yes, bro, just always it cracks me up watching you

991
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: guys in your behaviors.

992
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

993
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes it'll be a guy has nothing to do with

994
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: the play and a guy will just be skating like

995
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 3: you did one time you just hit him.

996
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: All they go by is that just like, hey, I'm here,

997
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: fuck you.

998
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it was, And some of it was like retribution,

999
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: some of it was you were trying to set it up.

1000
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's almost a lot of Baseball

1001
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: rules in hockey, like that hidden etiquette. There's a lot

1002
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: of that hidden etiquette stuff down people. If you're not

1003
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: a hockey head, you don't understand.

1004
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes.

1005
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Yes, And actually the culmination of like the game that

1006
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about was it was two or three years

1007
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: of just this just this bad. When I look back

1008
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: on it, it was really dark, Like I remember it was dark,

1009
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: like coming back from New Jersey and I my fucking

1010
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: eye is I got a black eye, My mouth is

1011
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: all messed up. I was just in that shithole saying

1012
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: terrible things to him like it was a it was

1013
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: a real war zone, the Battle of the Hudson.

1014
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Once the adrenaline dropped, the human and comes back out, Yeah,

1015
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: and Prob's sitting there like, man, that was a fucking

1016
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: Then you got to do it again the next night.

1017
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, once the tourt all wears off.

1018
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: Who is one of the guys that you loved getting

1019
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: under their skin other than not on this team, just

1020
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: in your career. One guy that you loved, he circled it.

1021
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: I want to get under his dude.

1022
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: There's well, there's a person on every team, but on

1023
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: this team it was David Clarkson. We had some legendary,

1024
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: legendary battles, legendary battles, and David Clarkson's a bad dude,

1025
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, says bad things, plays a hard game, very

1026
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: very good player. He is fucking mean and tough, and

1027
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: he was nasty and you know, he was a little

1028
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: bit bigger than me, but but like he was dangerous

1029
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: and I hated I had to take that.

1030
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: My edge needed.

1031
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Asham a fucking killer, a killer just put guys

1032
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: to sleep, you know, like literally put guys to sleep,

1033
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: knock guys out if you fought him. They had some

1034
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: bad dudes. Colin White was a bad dude. He you know,

1035
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: I think on the original play with the first original

1036
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: hit with Brodure, Colin White jumps me, like just gloves

1037
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: off and there's put you to the ground.

1038
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: Eight guys.

1039
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: What's going on in the dogpile? Is he saying shit?

1040
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh god?

1041
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to fish hook whoever I can

1042
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: fish hook and get the fuck out of there quickly.

1043
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're getting smashed on the back of the head.

1044
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: Do anything the only thing that's off limits. It's like

1045
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: one of those unwritten rules. You know right away to

1046
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: tuck your hands because we got fucking skate blades.

1047
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah what I mean.

1048
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: And for some reason, hockey players have a sixth sense

1049
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: about that, where you like, that's the one thing because

1050
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: you're you're down there, but you're trying to like you're

1051
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: getting beat up too. Yeah, that's what's crazy the sport,

1052
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: Like you're actually allowed to beat people up on the ice.

1053
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: It's why.

1054
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 3: It's gotta be very hard to keep your balance. And

1055
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: I watch and so I was watching when you guys

1056
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: hold yeah, and you you gotta really rotate and keep

1057
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 3: your distance. But while you're on fucking skates, that's tough.

1058
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: Your groins must be very tight. Yeah, it's like catching

1059
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 3: a ball up over the middle. Different I mean, but guys,

1060
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: not trying to punch me under my gut. Well, you

1061
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: get a forearm on the teeth, so you know, but

1062
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 3: a shoulder into the sternum's just as bad. It's it's

1063
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: it's yeah, yeah, who's the hardest guy to get on?

1064
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: Who is the guy that was like, fucking I could

1065
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: get I could crack any anyone. You could crack anyone.

1066
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: Except one time when I played in Detroit my rookie year, uh,

1067
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Colorado had an unbelievable player, captain winner Joe Sakic, And

1068
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm on the bench and Sakic is in front of

1069
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: me lining up for a face off, and I lean

1070
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: over the bench and I just start motherfucking him about

1071
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: the suit that he wore into the game, because I

1072
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: saw him walk in and all of a sudden, I

1073
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: feel my jersey pull, like really pull me, pull me

1074
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: like my dad was pulling me, and fucking yanked me

1075
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: down on the bench beside me. And it was Brett Hall,

1076
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: who I lived in his garage. Brett Hall is one

1077
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest players of all time. He kind of

1078
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: looked over at me and said, you will not speak

1079
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: to mister Sakkik in that way.

1080
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, Holly got it.

1081
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: And that was And so I never said anything from

1082
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: that moment on, I never said a word to Joe Sakic.

1083
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: He was he was off limbits, he was off limits.

1084
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: He was anointed off limits by someone who you know

1085
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: when he put that on, you were like, okay, because

1086
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: Holly would not say that about too many people.

1087
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you lived in Brett Hall's fucking garage. Yeah,

1088
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: I used to live in a teammate's house for two years. Really,

1089
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 3: I just got to say the check and gonna be

1090
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: on the team.

1091
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, above his garage Deerborn. No, sorry, We were in uh, Birmingham, Michigan.

1092
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Beautiful Birmingham, Michigan. The house was the jukebox and he

1093
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: drove an old Ta Bird and I just had to

1094
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: start the car in the morning. That was the only thing.

1095
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know, he didn't take he wouldn't take my money.

1096
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah he hit a turned on the fucking eater.

1097
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome. Yeah.

1098
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: And then one night he came home after a game

1099
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: and I wasn't there, and my buddies had left these

1100
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: pot brownies in the fridge and he hadn't smoked weed

1101
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: in seventeen years, but he loved dessert. And the next

1102
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: morning I started the car. No, Holly and I went

1103
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: up to the to the their side of the house

1104
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: and Darcy's girlfriend at the time, she's like, Brett's in

1105
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: the uh in the walking closet. He's been doing snow

1106
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: angels since like four in the morning, and I'm like,

1107
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: what the fuck? He had no idea. He went home

1108
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: after the game and they're in the fridge and he

1109
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: buried like two or three of them.

1110
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 2: And those are the days where you make the butter.

1111
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: They're so so strong. Dudes.

1112
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: You eat one of those on a plane, you want

1113
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: to jump off the plane.

1114
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: And he ate three of them and was in a hole,

1115
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: went to Mars the whole thing.

1116
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, bread Hule, greatest, greatest American great one of

1117
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: the greatest goal scores in the history of the NHL.

1118
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: If you brought him to the moon.

1119
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: In one word, before we move on to the Rangers,

1120
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: in one word, how do you describe the New Jersey

1121
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Devils Filthy?

1122
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: I like that they are. They were at that point. Yes,

1123
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 3: filthy could be used in a good manner too, though.

1124
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you associate it with the Hudson in

1125
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: Jersey and like dead bodies and shit, all kinds of shit,

1126
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's true. Yeah, But by the way,

1127
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: there's parts of Jersey I love tenn of flying New Jersey.

1128
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: I love it. I would live there, you know. There's

1129
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: some nice parts of Jersey.

1130
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the New York Giants play in New Jersey, I believe.

1131
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Meadowleans.

1132
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so for the New Jersey Giants, they took a

1133
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: ring from me. Hey, that's what I call. I call

1134
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: the New York Islanders, the Long Island Islanders. That's so funny.

1135
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: They aint bad about that. Yes, yes, oh my god,

1136
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Jaggie Litz. Jump into the New

1137
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: York Rangers. Get into these Rangers. Forty two, twenty seven

1138
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: and thirteen. Tom Rennie third in the Atlantic, fifth in

1139
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: the East.

1140
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1141
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 5: This was henriklen Quiz third season, led the league in

1142
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 5: shutouts with twelve.

1143
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: He was standing on his.

1144
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: Head, third year in a row, making the playoffs. Some

1145
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 5: big additions to this roster Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, both.

1146
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: In Wait a minute, that's why you did Vogue because

1147
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: Henry Hedrick he was stealing by thunder. He was so

1148
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: fucking good looking in those suits. You had to work

1149
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: in Vogue. That's the only reason you worked in Vote. Yeah,

1150
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: you're right, Actually, very intuitive of you. Yes, one of

1151
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: the greatest looking men ever in in the world. Just

1152
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: a stud too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, just a stud. Sorry

1153
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: for cutting you off. Jam math in my mind. Brother, Uh,

1154
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: some other guys on this team. This was Yager was

1155
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: on this team?

1156
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: Man?

1157
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: Yep, oh, he certainly was, dude Jeremi or Yoger. How

1158
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: could you explain what he is? This guy?

1159
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: He's still playing, He's still playing insane fifty three.

1160
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: He owns a team in the Czech Republic, yea somewhere

1161
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Bloc, one of I mean, oh fuck,

1162
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: Yog's didn't cut his toenails if he was on a

1163
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: scoring streak, like he thought that everything was like being

1164
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: about grounded and the power in his body. He had

1165
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 1: the biggest legs I have ever seen. They were so big,

1166
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: they were the biggest, you know, like like like a

1167
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: fucking offensive lineman. But but he could jump his vertical

1168
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: like an unbelievable athlete.

1169
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, loved to gamble on football. He just like me.

1170
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: He was like he was so cool, you know, I

1171
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: grew up watching him. He was still firing at this point. Unbelievable,

1172
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 1: almost a point a game player. What a player. Yeah,

1173
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: A real honor to be able to have played with him. Honestly,

1174
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: he got to play some legends. Yeah, I got some

1175
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: serious guys that I lucky lucky. Just those old school heads.

1176
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: You know, those old heads were different, like they were

1177
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: like because they were in the eighties, so there was

1178
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: this generational thing that they and some of those guys defected.

1179
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: They were like actually defectors to the to the US,

1180
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: and I got them on, you know, not the tail

1181
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: end of their career, but at a good point where

1182
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: they were still firing.

1183
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1184
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: The Eastern Bloc guys wild. Are they just a different breed?

1185
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1186
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean the Russians are. The Russians are incredible because

1187
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have heat like six years ago, you know

1188
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. Some of these guys seriously, they you know,

1189
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: at this point, like it was still like Russia. They

1190
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: didn't go home in the summer sometimes, like it's dangerous

1191
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: to be a Russian player. Russians are so much fun.

1192
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: I loved playing with them. Swedes are like Canadians. Checks

1193
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: are like Canadians, very similar, sort of like a little

1194
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: gritty and kind of like the well rounded guys. American

1195
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: guys were starting to come into their own. Palmarra Boston

1196
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: kid uh, Brandon Dubinsky was fucking out of his mind, Dubie.

1197
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: We had some wild dudes on this team. Now you

1198
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: ever drinking of that Russian gas? Yep, what is it?

1199
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean they can put it in the car and

1200
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: the carl start and they just drink it. Yeah, they go,

1201
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: oh god hard. But I also played with Russians that

1202
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: liked like newer new age Russians, and they loved caviar.

1203
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: These guys, Russians like rich things. Yeah, they're just because, Yeah,

1204
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: it's funny. You guys don't play with you. Yeah, Russians

1205
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: are fucking wild man. We're just straight America. They're better

1206
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: tooting on this team, a complete wild man, like great guy.

1207
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: We played so hard too, great player, great player. How

1208
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: is Sean Avery as a hockey player? What was his

1209
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: scouting report? My god, as you get older, you realize

1210
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: like nothing was ever going to change my game. I

1211
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: could have been so much better and at what I

1212
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: did if I just did a little less of like

1213
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: the one thing that I did, which was just cause

1214
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 1: like complete fucking havoc. I guess with me, you could

1215
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: say that. And even I see people here in LA

1216
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: that season ticket holders, I only played here three years,

1217
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: a long time ago. They go, dude, I loved you

1218
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: on the team. We had no fucking idea what was

1219
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: going to happen from game to game, like, and that

1220
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: was kind of how it was. You know, you didn't know,

1221
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: you really didn't know, Like if I was, yeah, very unpredictable,

1222
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: always played hard, but my unpredictableness probably hurt me and

1223
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: my effectiveness, like in my focus lay twelve years long career.

1224
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. What was it like playing in the Garden?

1225
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 3: I mean that had to be fucking pretty cool.

1226
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: Is that one of the best for the hockey guys,

1228
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: the hockey world. I mean that's the mecca. It's the mecca,

1229
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: that's for everything. It's the best for everything, concerts, basketball, boxing, UFCU.

1230
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1231
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: It's built underground, so you like under a building. You're

1232
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: under a building, You're you're inside of the earth, and

1233
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: there's energy that that comes with that. Like the building

1234
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: sort of moves and you can feel you feel like

1235
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: you're in the center of New York City. Yeah, and

1236
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: the Dome it kind of it curves, but it never ends.

1237
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: It's it's the fucking mecca. And then you walk through

1238
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: the halls and you see the pictures of like Zeppelin,

1239
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Fraser Alley, Republican National Convention, Democratic National Convention, like wild Ship,

1240
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: that's in and you can feel it in the walls.

1241
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: It's the best. It still is. It's it's the best

1242
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: arena in all of sports. I think you ever see

1243
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: Billy Juelire. I saw Billy Julie Billy there. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah,

1244
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: I see Fish there, Fish guy. Yeah, Fish plays, Fish

1245
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: owns the garden. They've actually sort of Billy handed the

1246
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: mantle as far as live acts consecutive nights. Yeah, yeah,

1247
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: they'll they'll smash his record. But fucking Billy Joel Long

1248
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: Island guy, Like what a New York.

1249
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: I saw the Boston there too. Oh Springstek. I think

1250
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: that's nice. I'm jealous. That's a show. Yeah, that's a show.

1251
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: I love.

1252
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's but that's when you're in New York.

1253
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: You gotta see Conny.

1254
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: It's freezing in February, so you're gonna go to a

1255
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: goddamn concert. Yeah, you gotta go to concerts indoor.

1256
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: Shit.

1257
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: You can do anything. Go up to Carnegie Hall, you

1258
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: can watch like it's it never ends. You go downtown,

1259
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: go into a fucking k hole with mcaulay culkin for

1260
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: three days if you want, like, you go anywhere.

1261
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: You want to New York City right there like that.

1262
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this quick break. Can you

1263
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: describe to the football fans. We have a lot of

1264
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: football fans, we have a lot of hockey guys, a

1265
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: lot of hockey fans as well.

1266
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: But the agitator, it would be the cornerback with no

1267
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: rules whatsoever, Like he would just be able to go

1268
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: anywhere on the field and talk shit to anybody, including

1269
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: the fans, including the opposite team, coaches, fucking trainers, like

1270
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: everyone's on limits. Everybody is fair game. And I say

1271
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: cornerback because cornerback can rove a little bit.

1272
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: Is that true? He could what he's sort of rove,

1273
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: He's like a rower.

1274
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: He could be a safety, a safety more like a

1275
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: safety safety does that okay?

1276
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: So like an in box safety that drops out.

1277
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 3: So he can kind of go across the field and

1278
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: Nats can play a little linebacker. They could go outside

1279
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: and cover a fucking tight end if they have to,

1280
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: if it's man coverage.

1281
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, be a safety.

1282
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the art of the agitator in the NHL.

1283
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: And there's been some great ones, uh, all the way

1284
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: back to Kenny Linsman, who they called the Rat. He

1285
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: played in Boston. Yeah, he was a legend, a legend.

1286
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: The DNA of the of the agitator. Somebody generally on

1287
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: the small side, has a chip on their shoulder. This

1288
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: is the serial killer profile of an NHL agitator. Small

1289
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: definitely the smallest on his team. Growing up, everybody told

1290
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: him he wasn't gonna make it. Generally a really good

1291
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: skater and has a good mind for the game, but

1292
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: is also maybe came from a home where everybody didn't

1293
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: tell each other that they loved each other that much.

1294
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: Like it was sort of like like roughneck, rough but loving,

1295
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: but but but rough, like a fuck you would be

1296
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: heard all the time, yeah, or or you know a

1297
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 1: lot of passive aggressive stuff like if you didn't play well,

1298
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: like you know, it's not okay your grounding, Yeah yeah,

1299
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: maybe you don't eat tonight, It wasn't that bad. Generally,

1300
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: they uh uh, they have to have some flamboyant showmanship

1301
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: to them because you take a lot of heat, you

1302
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: generally have a target on your back. Yeah and yeah, yeah,

1303
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of it.

1304
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: Who's the agitators?

1305
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 3: The now that you like that you look and you say,

1306
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: all right, this kid's a good agitator in the league.

1307
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: It's really tough to kind of they've changed the rules

1308
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: so much they've.

1309
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: Not flirts with it. Who flirts? Who flirts with it?

1310
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: Oh?

1311
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, no, I can do that. Of course, there's

1312
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: still incredible agitators in the league. Uh, the Ka Chuck

1313
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: kid in Florida who just won the Stanley Cup last

1314
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: year and his teammates Sam Bennett, who actually, you know,

1315
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: when I think about Sam Bennett, who's won a Stanley Cup,

1316
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: maybe multiple Stanley Cups. Now, Sam Bennett is the ultimate

1317
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 1: rat shit disturber. And Sam Bennett fucking hurts people still.

1318
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: He hurt Marshan last year. Yeah, with a nasty like

1319
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: secret soccer punch. The art of the soccer punch is

1320
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: not it's a beautiful thing. And that was one of

1321
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time because he masked it the.

1322
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: Art and did you suspend it after when they replay it?

1323
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they the problem was they didn't have the

1324
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: right angle he got. He got lucky on that. You

1325
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: got to be a magician to be an adjectator. Yes,

1326
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: so you're David Blaine. Well yeah, some would say of

1327
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, yeah, you know, part of my career

1328
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have two referees, so they brought the second

1329
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: refin and that made it tougher. But I used to

1330
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I've shot like I used to shoot pucks

1331
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: at refs that I got pissed off at, and I

1332
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: would make it like I would mask it as like

1333
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: a dump in, you know what I mean, so I

1334
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: didn't see them the icne. Yeah, but it would just

1335
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: be at you know, neck high and going fucking ninety

1336
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: miles an hour.

1337
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: You put that thing anywhere you want anywhere? Are you

1338
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: still good with the stick?

1339
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't held one in a while.

1340
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, if we were playing road hockey, I'd be okay, No,

1341
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter because I would fucking I would smack

1342
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: your shins and shit, you know, and I would get

1343
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: and I would always have a stick in your armpit

1344
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: or in your fucking knee, and you just be like

1345
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to play. So I would make

1346
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: up for my lack of sharpness immediately right away. I'd

1347
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:26,879
Speaker 1: go like, okay, just instantly go to agitation. Yes, yes, geez, Jackie,

1348
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: continue it up before.

1349
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 5: We go real quick, Sean, can we get your mount

1350
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 5: rushmore of agitators real quick.

1351
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be Terry O'Reilly great Boston Bruin love it.

1352
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: I gotta go, Kenny Linsman, myself, Steve Ott, and Tuomo

1353
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: Rutu who was a Finnish guy who was very very

1354
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: effective broken English staking in won multiple Stanley Cups, Edmonton Oilers,

1355
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: New York Rangers as it was fucking legendary. Yeah, those

1356
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: are some good ones.

1357
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: Like I like that. I guess before we move on

1358
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: to the game.

1359
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: That's the teak in it too, Like wild names in hockey. Yeah,

1360
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: I think we have a kool Aid now. Oh yeah,

1361
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: fell there's or something.

1362
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 5: What's his name kool Aid mcinstry, Yeah, Ray Rays names

1363
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 5: coming laid.

1364
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: A sick fool name is yule Ad. Wow.

1365
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 5: Wild that's cool. He needs a deal, baby, get him

1366
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 5: a deal with kool aid man. Yeah right, popping through

1367
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 5: the wall? Baby, who's the team asshole? This team?

1368
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: Were you the team asshole? Yeah? I mean that's funny.

1369
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm like looking to see him. That's a bigger asshole

1370
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: than me.

1371
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: No, No, I was the team asshole.

1372
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1373
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Shanahan number fourteen, who Shanny was the reason that

1374
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: I got traded to New York because I had played

1375
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: with him in Detroit. Shanny's now the president of the

1376
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: Toronto Maple Leafs. He's like, you know, Hockey Royalty, multiple

1377
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: Stanley Cups, gold medals for Canada.

1378
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: Shanny was my babysitter on this team.

1379
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: Like, Shanny was the guy anytime I did something and

1380
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: I went too far, he was the guy that I

1381
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: would get a call and I'd have to meet him

1382
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: at Nello's which is uptown, like seventieth in Madison. It

1383
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: was like going to see the Grandfather, like sitting down

1384
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: outside on a patio or inside if it was it

1385
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: was wintertime, and his legs would be cross. He'd be

1386
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: doing a crossword puzzle and he would just like tell

1387
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: me that I fucked up and that I need to

1388
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: be better, you know, and he would guilt me into

1389
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: into like recorrecting.

1390
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had every once in a while. Yeah. Yeah.

1391
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: Do you remember a specific time that you got called

1392
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 3: into the Godfather's office uptown?

1393
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1394
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:01,560
Speaker 1: It was actually so good. I was playing in LA

1395
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: and we had our all star break and he told

1396
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: me to fly to New York because he needed to

1397
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: sit down and vet me before they pulled off the trade.

1398
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: And then two weeks so I went, and two weeks

1399
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: later I got traded to New York. That was like

1400
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: the first that was like the real that was like

1401
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: being accepted into the family moment. But I, you know,

1402
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: I knew Shanny. We had played together, we were close.

1403
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: But and then before our first playoff game that we

1404
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: ever played together, and.

1405
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: We were at Nello and I was so fucking nervous.

1406
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: It was my first playoff game in New York at

1407
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:47,480
Speaker 1: the Garden, and he was so calm. He was so calm,

1408
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

1409
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: Aren't you nervous? He goes, No, I left my three

1410
01:13:54,120 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup rings at home. Okay, I just kind of

1411
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: like follow that lead of you know, that's what they have.

1412
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: They have that common presence. That's but I was out

1413
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: of control on this team for sure. Now, so he's

1414
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: a legend on the team. There's a bunch of legend

1415
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: on this team. What was that dynamic in this locker room?

1416
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: Like was it a chill locker room? Were you guys close?

1417
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: What was that dynamic?

1418
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1419
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: So even like the locker rooms at MSG, they have

1420
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: a vibe. It's like it's like going into so hard

1421
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: to explain because the Knicks locker room is attached to ours,

1422
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: so like we all have the same door and they

1423
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: just go to the right and we go to the left.

1424
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: So when we get changed into our underwear before the game,

1425
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: we are in a Knicks locker like I would be

1426
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: in Stephan Marbury's locker putting my We call it getsch

1427
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: It's like our the stuff we heard. Yeah, so that

1428
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: locker room has this uh it's like walking into a

1429
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: sacred ground, like a hollowed room. It has this vibe

1430
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: to it, unlike any other room, I know, beautiful locker rooms.

1431
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: You guys had one the jets, you see that.

1432
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 2: This was a thing.

1433
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: So like the music was a vibe, and we had

1434
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: a lot of Europeans, so we only listened to like

1435
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: heavy techno trance, like fucking hard ship before games. Yes,

1436
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: and you could hear it because it would bounce off

1437
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: the walls. And the Knicks put the sickest sound system

1438
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: in ever, you know. So it was a party. This

1439
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: team was a party team. We had a lot of

1440
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: partiers on this team and every game.

1441
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: Was a party. Who's the party animal.

1442
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: On this team? We had some guys that went hard.

1443
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely went the hardest for sure.

1444
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 3: So you got asshole, you got partier.

1445
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you're in it.

1446
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in it too fast, moving way too

1447
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: fast at this point. First to say it, I just

1448
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: signed a.

1449
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 2: Four year deal. Yeah, way too way too fast, way

1450
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: too fast. Let's jump into the game before we move on.

1451
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: Just because I saw that Nigel Doz was on this team. Yeah,

1452
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: and he's a unique player in that he never really

1453
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: quite stuck in the NHL. But is the case a

1454
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: kind of the kh a legend. What was it like

1455
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: playing with him? Yeah?

1456
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: Dozzy also half black, which is a rarity in our sport,

1457
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: you know, Toronto kid. Yeah, he went on to play

1458
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: like a lot of years in the KHL, which is

1459
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: the Russian version of the NHL, which is a very

1460
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: very good league. Does he played pretty good for us?

1461
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: I think?

1462
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: You know, how is their payover there? They make big money?

1463
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: Oil money, Yeah, oil money. Now are they allowed to

1464
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: come home?

1465
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1466
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: They come home with bags of cash multiple times over

1467
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: the course of the year, or they send family members

1468
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: with bags of cash home. It's the wild West over there.

1469
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: HL. That's so crazy. That's why I'm so fascinated.

1470
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: When we won in two thousand and two. I went

1471
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: to Russia with we had feder Off Larry onof we

1472
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of Russians. Anyways, I went to the Kremlin.

1473
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: They took the Stanley Cup. They had a parade there,

1474
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: like that's a whole different world, and there's a lot

1475
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: of people over there. They love hockey too, and hockey

1476
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: is their sport. Yeah, you know Canada Russia seventy two.

1477
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: The Russians are incredible players, great for the game. And

1478
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: Detroit was the was the birthplace of them defecting really yeah, yeah,

1479
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: there's a great documentary called The Russian Five.

1480
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: You should watch. We have to watch that. We'll watch it,

1481
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: all right, Jackie, let's break down this game. You want

1482
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 2: to get in the lead up real quick? Said this, yeah,

1483
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: lead up all right.

1484
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 5: So over the final month of the season, both teams

1485
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 5: were around five hundred. The Rangers went seven to eight,

1486
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 5: Devils went nine and seven. The Rangers owned them all

1487
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 5: season seven and one. That lone loss coming the final

1488
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 5: game of the season. Wow, which would decide Howie advantage here? Uh,

1489
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 5: Devil's one, three, two and o T And that was

1490
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 5: the final game of the year.

1491
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: I had no idea that Games one and two were

1492
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: on the road, wild right, just blackout.

1493
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: I had no clue. I guess it just didn't matter.

1494
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: Like at that at this point it was such it

1495
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: was so fun and so like nasty, it didn't matter.

1496
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: I probably liked going I think I did like going

1497
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: there more now I like that.

1498
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like being the villain? Yeah?

1499
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: Is is there a different energy? And I'm I'm assuming yes,

1500
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: But can you explain the energy difference between regular season hockey?

1501
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and fucking playoff hockey?

1502
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: Because I explained it all the time in football, there's

1503
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: difference between training camp speed to when you have a

1504
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: preseason game to when you go to the regular season

1505
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 3: and then playoffs, and each week in playoffs like balls

1506
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: to the walls.

1507
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: There's no business decisions.

1508
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: Guys are literally trying to kill ye because there's no

1509
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: more games. Like, can you explain that energy?

1510
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: The jump between the play and the regular season and

1511
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's so exponential, it's it's it's like a

1512
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: thing that I think is just baked into us, Like

1513
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: it also becomes a performance. It's it's more life and death.

1514
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: The fans and everything gets baked into it. Playoff hockey,

1515
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: it's just a better game. It's a sharper game everything.

1516
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: There's no you know, we play eighty two games, so

1517
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: the first twenty of the seasons sometimes they're a little

1518
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: bit sloppy. Yeah, trying to work out your power play,

1519
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: penalty kill.

1520
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 3: Which is like ours in our league as of late

1521
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: last five six years, the first three games, four games,

1522
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 3: because they've killed practice time in training camp, right, has

1523
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: become sloppy right there.

1524
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: You can see it. You can see it.

1525
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: And then John mentioned games one and two, both of

1526
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 5: those four to one in two to one.

1527
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

1528
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 5: So then that brings us to Game three here, a

1529
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 5: Sunday afternooner at the Garden, up two to zero in

1530
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 5: the series. First period starts out dradon goals.

1531
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: Devils came out flying around.

1532
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: Wow, we lot we uh, I didn't know they scored

1533
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: the first one.

1534
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: Then then do he tied it up?

1535
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: And then we go on the power play a five

1536
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: on three in the second period. Yep, that was a

1537
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: second period goal. Yep, six fifty six.

1538
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 5: That was the the famous So that was after I

1539
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 5: had done the thing, yes, okay, yeah, yeah.

1540
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: Scoring the goal off the f right. Yeah.

1541
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 3: So what's the thing? Take us beat for beat? What

1542
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: the thing is all right, the thing is here.

1543
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: This is perfect, the difference between the regular season and

1544
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs and the regular season, my job immediately was

1545
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: go to the front of the and try and make

1546
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: number thirty go crazy, all right, And in doing that

1547
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: sometimes I would take a penalty because you know, you're

1548
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: just it's like a little bit looser and the stakes

1549
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: clearly are not as high, but you're in a different mindset.

1550
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: So now you're in game three of the first round,

1551
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: and during the regular season, normally I would go to

1552
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: the front of the net, and the traditional way to

1553
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 1: stand in front of the net is you stand facing

1554
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 1: your defenseman so that you can visually see the shots

1555
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: for tippins, because that's a big part of the game. Yeah,

1556
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: guys have made their careers just being great net front guys,

1557
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: being able to have hand eye and tip pucks in.

1558
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: And Dino Cicirelli was incredible. Thomas Holmstrom, who I played

1559
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: with in Detroit, one of the greatest ever. The problem

1560
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: was Brodure was such an og this guy five hundred

1561
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 1: NHL wins that I when I did it in the playoffs,

1562
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: I think probably in Game one, I went to the

1563
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 1: net traditional and I get a fucking I get jabbed

1564
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: in the back of the knee, poked in the back

1565
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: of the knee, but in the most perfect spot where

1566
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: when you're on skates, if you get poked in the

1567
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: back of the knee, you go ass over tea kettle.

1568
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: So he poked me and I fell into him. He

1569
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: sold it and I got a penalty. So now I

1570
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: just put this he poked the bear. Well, not only

1571
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: did he poke the bear, he beat the bear. He

1572
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: out tricked the bear, he outsmarted the bear. The wise

1573
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: man knew, well, you're like a little cub right now, Yes,

1574
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: you're a cub.

1575
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: You're not even a bear, right.

1576
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: And I'm now I'm like out of my element, and

1577
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: I go, holy fuck. Because the stakes are high. I

1578
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to not get penalized because

1579
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: I want to stay on the ice, I want to score,

1580
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: I want to be effective. So the cub had to

1581
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: go to the penalty bucks. And it's just where the

1582
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: cub became a bear.

1583
01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1584
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: Well, at this point, and this was the triggering effect,

1585
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: we get a five on three, which a five on

1586
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: three power play in the playoffs very rare. That means

1587
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: they have two penalties, right now two guys have to

1588
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: go off the ice. We have five, they have three.

1589
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: That's a big moment, right, have to score, You have

1590
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: to score, have to score.

1591
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: It's it's like do or die.

1592
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: And if you don't score on five special teams, this

1593
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: is like a yeah, special teams.

1594
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 2: Right, this is.

1595
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: Denver having a thirty six yard kick to beat the

1596
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 3: Chiefs to win the game.

1597
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: You got to hit it. What happens?

1598
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 3: The Chiefs blocked the fucking field goal. Yeah, it came

1599
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: up with the play. What a block?

1600
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy. So we get the five on three.

1601
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: Let me let me play this through because a lot

1602
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: happened on this play now that I'm seeing it, because

1603
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the time. What time was their second

1604
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: penalty taken? Can we find that out?

1605
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me take a look.

1606
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Care because I would trigger the five on three. So

1607
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: I go, okay, holy shit, we're on a five on three.

1608
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: It's Game three Stanley Cup Playoffs. We're in New York.

1609
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: We're up to nothing in the series. I cannot take

1610
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 1: a penalty.

1611
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: Now. What people don't understand.

1612
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: Is is that for me to go to the front

1613
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: of the net and turn around, it's not safe because

1614
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: you can get to take a I got Yogurt and

1615
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: I got Shanahan on the points for one timers, and

1616
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: when you're in a five on three, the box gets condensed,

1617
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: so now instead of them being sixty feet away, they're

1618
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: like thirty feet away. In our equipment, we don't have

1619
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: any padding in our backs because the game's always sort

1620
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: of played at the front, like we go at guys, yeah,

1621
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: and we take hits to the side, like there's nothing

1622
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: in your back. So I go, okay, fuck it. I

1623
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: gotta figure out a way to not take a penalty.

1624
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: But I also have in the back of my head

1625
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: like if Yog's hits me with a one timer in

1626
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: my back, he's gonna break my back, Like he's gonna

1627
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: fucking break my spine. But I don't want to take

1628
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: a penalty, so I gotta figure I go. You know,

1629
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: these guys are the two of the greatest shooters of

1630
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: all time, Shanahan and uh Yoger. At the point, I'm

1631
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And I remember the moment when I

1632
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: got off the bench because you can see it. I

1633
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: kind of come off the bench and we enter into

1634
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: the zone and you can see me like going just

1635
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: blining it to the front of the net, which is

1636
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: where I'm supposed to be, and at some point from

1637
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: my skate from the bench to the goal, which is

1638
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: about I don't know, probably eighty feet. I figured that

1639
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: this is what I was gonna do, and like I have,

1640
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: it seered into my head. What brodure, what he looked like,

1641
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: his eyes, what they were saying to me when I

1642
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: went in front of him. No one had ever seen

1643
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: this before, like ever, Like no one had done anything

1644
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: so stupid or weird.

1645
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: Because it's a crazy that you could take a puck

1646
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: to the back and maybe become paralyzed.

1647
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: Because these things are fucking crazy.

1648
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 1: B Because etiquette, Yeah, how come people have never sortsmanship?

1649
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Sportsmanship? Maybe? So we're in playoffs, yeah, playoff energy.

1650
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 3: Like we talked ten minutes ago, we said, fuck sportsmanship,

1651
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 3: fuck my life, the guard, my spine.

1652
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: We're in the garden. Yep, I gotta do.

1653
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: I cannot get fucking penalty points.

1654
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: I can't go in the box. I can't go in

1655
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: the box.

1656
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 3: So you sacrificed your life and sportsmanship for this fucking.

1657
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: We got to keep this five on three?

1658
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, I gotta keep this five on three because

1659
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: you know ultimately, like I want to go because I

1660
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: am at war with this school. So if I can

1661
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: tie this whole thing together somehow and I can bury

1662
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: one on him, I got two on him in the series.

1663
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: And let's just both times I scored on him, I

1664
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: reminded him immediately after, like they would throw a flag

1665
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: in football, they would go, oh take that, yeah, taunting. Yes,

1666
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 1: I would go right to him and tell him terrible

1667
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: things about the ship, that he's done off the ice

1668
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: and that I just fucking scored on you. Did you

1669
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: see that goal? Fucking didn't get it?

1670
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: Well?

1671
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 3: So it was war, right, And that's what happened, is no,

1672
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 3: there's what is it? What's the There's no fair in

1673
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: love and war's fair. And and by the way, you know,

1674
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: he wanted me. They were trying to hurt me, and

1675
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 3: it was it was good. It was like perfect. It

1676
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 3: was the perfect storm. So, oh what happens? I do

1677
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 3: the thing. I put my hand in front of his face. Right,

1678
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 3: he moves one way and I moved the other way.

1679
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 3: And I think he thinks I'm only going to do

1680
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 3: it maybe like once, and I'm not going to really

1681
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: stick with the bit. But I stuck with it, so

1682
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: anytime he moved and we had a couple of shots

1683
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: in the process, I have no idea what's going on.

1684
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 3: I can hear the shots being taken, so I'm sort

1685
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 3: of like trying to feel it. I'll lift my leg

1686
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: up or kind of move with bro Dirt because he's

1687
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: trying to Goalies have to try and find the puck,

1688
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: whether you're looking at them or away from them.

1689
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: That's part of their job. They got to track the puck.

1690
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: And a moment happens. It goes down to the back

1691
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: door to Scotty Gomez, who I'd played with all year,

1692
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: and I don't know, man, I just kind of like

1693
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: I just stood there and I was already facing that direction,

1694
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: so I didn't need to do sort of a one

1695
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: eighty to Scottie, who was in the corner with the puck.

1696
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: He could just it was a direct line to me,

1697
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: and it's sort of how it played out, A direct

1698
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: line to me, who's already staring at Brodure like kind

1699
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: of doing this, and then I can I just that's it.

1700
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm here, and I get a pass and I bury

1701
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: it a one timer, and like the fucking place just

1702
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: went nuts, Like it went fucking nuts.

1703
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 3: What is Brodure saying that? You know, I was so

1704
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 3: I didn't did he have a name for you or

1705
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 3: what did he call you? Do he call you Sean?

1706
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 3: He has broken English, so it's kind of no. He

1707
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 3: he almost didn't really speak.

1708
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I got this guy so mad that he

1709
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 1: couldn't speak. It's basically the situation anytime we played them,

1710
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: And you can see by the way from that season

1711
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: series we played them eight times. Well, you guys, how

1712
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: many times do you play another team.

1713
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: Twice in the division and then so the playoffs? Imagine

1714
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 3: playing a that you know him inside out eight times

1715
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 3: eight times.

1716
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: And we beat them seven out of those eight games. So, like,

1717
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: I was so far up this guy's ass that he

1718
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: wanted me dead. He would he would definitely, he would

1719
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: not have shed a tear. If I fucking popped up

1720
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: on the back page of the New York Post debt,

1721
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: he would be happy about that. It was fucking war.

1722
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: I scored the place went crazy, and that was kind

1723
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: of where it was just all in the same thing.

1724
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: It was like the same minute is the and you know,

1725
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 2: and this idea came up on the forty feet ice.

1726
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, however, far it is from the bench to the

1727
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 1: goal line.

1728
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: At MSG. You didn't think about this on the bench.

1729
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: It just you never thought about it once.

1730
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: And the funny thing was Chris Drury, who's now the

1731
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: general manager of the New York Rangers. He's he's on

1732
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: the back door, so he's like, back door on my

1733
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: right side, left side, whatever side doesn't depending on what

1734
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: side you're facing. Back door. The ref's yelling at me

1735
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: in the corner. He's telling me to knock it off

1736
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: more or less. But there's no rule in this.

1737
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 2: So I'm like saying to him, what what what?

1738
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 4: Like?

1739
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,440
Speaker 1: We're talking, like you can see it. There's a conversation.

1740
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the ref. He's like telling motherfucking me,

1741
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: telling me he's gonna give me a penalty. I'm like,

1742
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: there's no fucking penalty. And then Drury comes from the

1743
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: back door. He skates over and he whispers into my

1744
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: ear while the play's happening, aves He's gonna give you

1745
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: a penalty. And I kind of turned to Drew. I'm like,

1746
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: for what. And then at this point Drew's like, yeah, no,

1747
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to my spot. And then that

1748
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: that was it. It went to Gomer to me, and

1749
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I scored and it now did you go? But you

1750
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,879
Speaker 1: went back to it the Knicks. Well, here's what happened.

1751
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, dude, all right, there's a rule Okay, the NHLPA,

1752
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:05,520
Speaker 1: which is our union. You have one NFLPA, the NHLPA,

1753
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: which is our union. They have to approve any rule changes.

1754
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: They do it at the Border Governor's meeting in Palm Beach,

1755
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 1: Florida in the summer.

1756
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's as owners meeting. Yes, like they proposed new rules.

1757
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 3: They all vote on it. Standard in all league procedures.

1758
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 2: Right.

1759
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: I went out after the game. I went out. I

1760
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: didn't go home. I went out. I know exactly where

1761
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: I went. I went down to Tribeca. My buddy had

1762
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: a restaurant and I went out.

1763
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 4: And uh.

1764
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: I remember in the middle of the night waking up

1765
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: and I had to go to the bathroom and I

1766
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, I had blood. I had a cut

1767
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: and my pillow was like covered in blood. And uh

1768
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: I just like I had this thought about something, I

1769
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 1: could feel something happening. I wake up in the morning

1770
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: and I get into the Rangers sent town cars for us,

1771
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Like that's how we would get to the practice.

1772
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1773
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like literally a black Town cars in front of

1774
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: your building. You just walk outside and they drive you

1775
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: to the rink. And Manny was the driver, and he

1776
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: had heard because he drove our GM. He had already

1777
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: dropped off our GM. So I think there was a

1778
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: phone call. Long story short, they changed the rule overnight,

1779
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: like they put an official release out. I think they

1780
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: thought it was so it was dangerous for the game

1781
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: or something, or it was so radical that everyone was

1782
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: in agreement on both sides unofficially maybe, although no one

1783
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: ever asked me. I never got a call they changed

1784
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: the rule. The rule was changed that next day. So

1785
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: moving forward, like in the series and all the other

1786
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: series with the other teams playing for the Lord Stanley's Cup,

1787
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: the rule was changed, and no one ever told me

1788
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: why or how they did it. And like I said,

1789
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: I was moving way too fast, and I wish I

1790
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: had a fucking stopped, and like said, hey, can somebody

1791
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: just kind of put something on paper here so I

1792
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: can frame it? Maybe just kind of let's mark this thing,

1793
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 1: and and but no, I you know, I was in

1794
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: the middle of a series. Also, yeah, we had we

1795
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: had to play game four and now we're in a

1796
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: series because they beat us in ot so we're two

1797
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: to one.

1798
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 2: Now, how did the hockey world take this? Dude? Everyone

1799
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 2: hated me so much.

1800
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: That I think, like other teams and shit, everyone was

1801
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, no, you got to make you know.

1802
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: There was no nobody stood up and said, hey, you

1803
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: can't do this right. Yeah, And I'm in the middle

1804
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: of a series and like I had to figure out

1805
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: how to now not take a penalty again in game four? Yeah,

1806
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: with bro Dure because it wasn't gonna stop.

1807
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 3: Any players from other teams text you or anything. Anyone

1808
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 3: text you, dude. Two thousand and eight, was I on

1809
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 3: a sidekick keyboard? Yeah? Yeah, the seven iPhone came out.

1810
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 1: All right, so I was on a first gen iPhone.

1811
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.

1812
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: No, again, I can't even remember really, like I I

1813
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: remember where I went after the game that night.

1814
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember what the boy said to you on

1815
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 2: the bench afterwards? I remember what.

1816
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Chris Drewy said. I can still you know Madison Square

1817
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: Gardens lowed. Yeah, like to have a player come up

1818
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: beside you, your teammate and whisper or sort of not

1819
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: whisper but kind of like yell in your ear because

1820
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: he's got to get over he's got a fuck.

1821
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: It's chaos.

1822
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, be like stopping in a play, in the middle

1823
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: of a play a route and having a conversation with

1824
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: a guy and then like finishing the route. I don't know,

1825
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: but we're you know, we play a sport which is

1826
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: somewhat weird where we go really fast at times, but

1827
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: then at times we're all stopped. Yeah, standing still playing

1828
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: tic tac toe with a ball with like a puck.

1829
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: It's interesting that way. But no, I can't remember what

1830
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: anybody said, who knows?

1831
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever talked to Bordeu about it? Later? I have,

1832
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: like what's his name? I like this?

1833
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: It sounds like South Park almost, by the way. Fun

1834
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:37,480
Speaker 1: fact about Martin Brodure. His dad was a world famous

1835
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: photographer for the Montreal Canadians. Like he was the in

1836
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: house photographer for the Forum in Montreal, which uh you know,

1837
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: I think Ali fought there. Like his dad was was

1838
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 1: Canadian royalty and his son now just played his first

1839
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 1: game as a goalie for the New Jersey Devils.

1840
01:36:58,160 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: Wow, good guys.

1841
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 3: If one if if one's a hockey goalie, one's a

1842
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 3: you know, photography, got a good eye. Right, you're right,

1843
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 3: you're you see ship that's wild. Probably eat the carrots,

1844
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 3: a lot of carrots. Vitamin A yeah, yeah, good for

1845
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 3: your eyes. You gotta make a comebacks. You can score

1846
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 3: in his kid. So yeah, imagine we're talking little he's

1847
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: gonna go up in there.

1848
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,799
Speaker 2: There you go there. It is a little nash like hockey.

1849
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. I'm trying to keep him away from

1850
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: it for a little bit. They can play like I

1851
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: started when I was eight. Yeah, you know, but you

1852
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: grew up around it.

1853
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we played like Yeah, they don't do that

1854
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 3: here though, Right, you grew up in Laurel Canyon. You

1855
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 3: can't fucking put the skates on. And he'll play backyard hockey.

1856
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: On No, No, there's too many hills. No, I know,

1857
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Yeah, he'll play. Wow, what

1858
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 1: is this? This is?

1859
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 5: Let's let's hear the aftermath, every rule, wrap this thing up.

1860
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 5: There were eleven penalties in the second period.

1861
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Uh. The Devil's got two power play goals.

1862
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 5: Then Dominski tied it up again in the third uh,

1863
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 5: and then an ot John Madden Boom scored the game

1864
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 5: winning goal.

1865
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

1866
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 4: Uh.

1867
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 5: In the Devil's took game three, and then the Avery

1868
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 5: rule came into effect.

1869
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 2: As we just spoke about, Oh my god, I don't

1870
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: even remember there's seventy five point one the amendment.

1871
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, but the w NBCTV cameras, so now

1872
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I remember what that picture was from, or there's like

1873
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: a video. Holy shit, dude, my fucking brain just exploded.

1874
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: You know, you remember things like yeah that you didn't yeah,

1875
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: because you it's it's people want to say, because you

1876
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: probably played a contact sports.

1877
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my ct Yeah. But it's more.

1878
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 3: About I think that you have so many other things

1879
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 3: going on in your life.

1880
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 2: It's like a processor. You get too much gigabytes, you

1881
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 2: forget about.

1882
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: Also at this point, when you're in the middle of

1883
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: a series, like do you remember, do you remember what?

1884
01:38:59,760 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 4: How?

1885
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: And from game one of what nfcas to the Super

1886
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Bowl Final, like the narrative and piecing all those.

1887
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 3: It'd be more like do I remember a play from

1888
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 3: a certain game? Because you guys have so many games, right,

1889
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of times where I don't remember,

1890
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 3: but someone will come on and we'll talk about and

1891
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,879
Speaker 3: then it reunites thatthing like you just exploded.

1892
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: I just felt that it's a deja vu, but it's

1893
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: not okay. So the next day I went to practice.

1894
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 1: I had probably just found out an hour before. When

1895
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: I got in the town car. I get to practice.

1896
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: All the fucking cameras are there. They're all like lined

1897
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: up because the NHL is issued an amendment to the

1898
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:45,440
Speaker 1: unsportsman like Conduct rule, which seventy five had probably an amendment.

1899
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: It's like that's like the Constitution moother shit. For Fox's sakes.

1900
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: It probably hadn't been changed in seventy years, who knows.

1901
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 1: So the cameras are all there, and I come out

1902
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: and the first thing I do I skate up to

1903
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: hammera row and I just fucking flipped them the verge

1904
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: like I think with my glove on. Actually is the picture?

1905
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: Holy fuck man? I so yeah, I was. I was

1906
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: really out of control, clearly, and I haven't even I've

1907
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 1: never read it. Here it is, and then sportsmanlike conduct

1908
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: minor penalty will be interpreted and applied effective immediately to

1909
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: a situation. This is the amendment, by the way, that's

1910
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: a long amendment to a situation. When an offensive player

1911
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 1: positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions

1912
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: such as waving his arms or stick in front of

1913
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: the goaltender's face for the purpose of improperly interfering with

1914
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 1: and or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself

1915
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: to try and make a play. A Colon Campbell, the

1916
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 1: NHL director of Hopey Hockey Operations, said in a statement,

1917
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: how the fuck did they write that overnight?

1918
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 2: That that's like wild?

1919
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 5: They got a lot of lawyers because that says a

1920
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 5: lot of different things, doesn't it.

1921
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Basically you can't like do anything in the goalie space anymore?

1922
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 2: Or what's distracting?

1923
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: That's an amendment? I've never read that. That is you

1924
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: not an a amendment. That is your amendment? Holy fuck,

1925
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: for the purpose of improperly interfering with and or distracting

1926
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: the goaltender as opposed to positioning him himself to try

1927
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: and make a play. Oh I see, Oh, I see,

1928
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:46,480
Speaker 1: you get it?

1929
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 2: Kind of kind of what do you see?

1930
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 1: I see another loophole to a loophole somewhere. I don't know,

1931
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I just there's a loophole somewhere. Now is

1932
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 1: this the original one?

1933
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 5: Now?

1934
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: If you get penalized, are you gonna do you have

1935
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: like a little court right there with the ref like

1936
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: with the loophole, yea, how can you explain the loophole? Well,

1937
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: what's interesting? And so this is seventy five point one. Yeah,

1938
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: rule seventy five point one unsportsmanlike conduct. This is the

1939
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: original one. Unsportsmanlike conduct. Players in non plane club personnel

1940
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: are responsible for their conduct at all times and must

1941
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 1: endeavor to prevent disorderly conduct before, during, or after the game,

1942
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,679
Speaker 1: hon or off the ice in any place in the rank.

1943
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 1: The referees may assess penalties. Okay, so that's just like

1944
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: a general thing, like you can't be an asshole, right, yeah,

1945
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: there must be seventy five point two and things like that.

1946
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, that breaks it down a little bit,

1947
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: like you can't yell at fans directly maybe things like that.

1948
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: That amendment's wild. That is unbelievable. Wow, Wow, thank you

1949
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: for this.

1950
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: I doesn't feel like to like have the league move

1951
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 2: that quick for something you did. Well. Now, it was

1952
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:02,759
Speaker 2: the first time.

1953
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: Honestly, I swear to God that I can kind of

1954
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: look at it and just put it all into like

1955
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: a box, like I can I sort of see all

1956
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: of it and when it happened now I kind of

1957
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: feel and understand it. I mean I was fucking out

1958
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: of control, clearly. That amendment is that is the wildest

1959
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 1: thing I've ever read. That Is it called an amendment

1960
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: or we just given it the name amendments somewhere right, yeah, everywhere?

1961
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1962
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1963
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: The NHL issued an amendment to the Unsportsmanlike Conduct rule

1964
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: to cover the situation.

1965
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 2: Whatever happened to I'm just a bi gap.

1966
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 3: Remember those things. Yeah, you get to go to Capitol Hill.

1967
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 3: This thing got right there. Executive or executive order order. Yeah,

1968
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 3: it was an executive or executive ordered.

1969
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you can write them and and that's your day

1970
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: to just go.

1971
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 3: You just there's no let it rip like Roger for

1972
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 3: our league commission, there's a rule where he could. It's

1973
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 3: like basically he can do whatever he wants rule what day?

1974
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

1975
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: Or just any time anytime veto you can't he's got

1976
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: he's the last veto on anything.

1977
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or.

1978
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 1: Nobody can actually veto anything that he does, right. Kind

1979
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: of this is also puts this whole thing into perspective

1980
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: because like we went on to win the series, am

1981
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: I let it rip? Then we lost quickly to Pittsburgh's

1982
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:45,560
Speaker 1: Sydney Crosby.

1983
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: Kyler's team.

1984
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the start of their little run, the

1985
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 8: losing to the Red Wings Flurry. Yeah, Malkin, what a team,

1986
01:44:54,600 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 8: Max Talbot, let's haang, great team. How fucking go the

1987
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 8: biggest defenseman I have ever played against in my life.

1988
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 8: Like he was huge, he was a giant man on skates.

1989
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 8: And he gets the puck in the corner. Game three,

1990
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 8: it was the first period and I'm at the blue line.

1991
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm gonna fucking kill hal Gil. This is

1992
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 8: my time to kill hal Gil. I go one hundred

1993
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 8: miles an hour at hal Gil and hit him dead

1994
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 8: square on, like I try and kill hal Gil. Hal

1995
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 8: Gil stands there and I bounce off.

1996
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 1: Of him, and I'm like thinking to myself, I think

1997
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: I just tore my abdominal. Okay, I was dead. I

1998
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: thought I tore my abdominal. I went back to the

1999
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: bench rammer or trainer, I said, I tore my abdominal.

2000
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 1: I need a tor it All shot in between periods.

2001
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 1: So we go in. He gives me a tourd All shot.

2002
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 1: And so there's two on the day. This second one

2003
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: too quick to get a second one yeah, all right,

2004
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: we lose Game three. I am assume. I don't even

2005
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 1: fucking know. I can't even remember that. Finishing the game,

2006
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I went into the cold tub after the game, and

2007
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 1: the moment I got into the cold tub, I felt

2008
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: like somebody stabbed me in my shoulder. And Doc Feldman,

2009
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 1: our team doctor, was four feet away and he saw it.

2010
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: And the moment he saw it, he was like, get him,

2011
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: get your clothes on, get him dressed, and we got

2012
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. And they took me to

2013
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: the hospital in the back of a cab. I guess

2014
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:32,759
Speaker 1: that is one of the referrals of a lacerated spleen.

2015
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: I last rated my spleen on that hit that I

2016
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna kill hal Gil actually almost killed me.

2017
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,480
Speaker 1: And I spent four days in ICEU of Saint Vincent's,

2018
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 1: which is not even a hospital anymore. They tore it down,

2019
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 1: where a majority of the gays in New York during

2020
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 1: the AIDS crisis died in this hospital. A It was

2021
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: a really like symbolic, like deep hospital and I almost

2022
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 1: died in that hospital. So that was the end of

2023
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: the fucking season. That was just like that, that whole run.

2024
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: That's how hard it went. It was going so hard

2025
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: and I and I, yeah, I almost died because I

2026
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: had this type of laceration that it was a squirting laceration.

2027
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 2: So we got a squirter, I got We had a squirter.

2028
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they had to keep going in and cauterizing,

2029
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: trying to cauterize. You gotta burn it, but you can't.

2030
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: They could only see it when it was squirting, so

2031
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,839
Speaker 1: they had to keep going in four or five times

2032
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:35,839
Speaker 1: over four days.

2033
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, brutal. You know.

2034
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 3: The aftermath of the Averrull game, the hockey guy said, hey, hey, son, can.

2035
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I tell you one more funny story about that?

2036
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear it.

2037
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: I was in the ICU still and uh. I had

2038
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: a friend, not even a romantic friend, a girl by

2039
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: the name of May Anderson, who was like a Danish supermodel.

2040
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: She was She was incredible, she is. May was awesome.

2041
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2042
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: She was with another girl friend of mine, Lauren Flynn,

2043
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: and Jim Dolan, who owns the New York Rangers and

2044
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 1: the New York Next He won't let me into the

2045
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 1: stadium gohead really yeah, we got I got Celtics courts,

2046
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: I'd see twins and he wouldn't let me go facial

2047
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: Well he's got facial recognition now, so you're fucked. Charles

2048
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 1: oak Bro Yeah, best owner in sports. I love playing

2049
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 1: for Dolan. Let me just get that straight right now. Uh,

2050
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: you can go to the ship. He came and visited

2051
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: me at the hospital and May Anderson was sleeping in

2052
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: my hospital bed with me in it, just like because

2053
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 1: there's no beds in there, and she's tiny. She got

2054
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: the end. She's on the end of the bed sort

2055
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: of like I don't I'm almost dying. And Jim Dolan

2056
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: walked in and that's the scene that he walked in on.

2057
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

2058
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, Jim you guys really bluebo Jimbo. He had

2059
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: a laugh ga sense of humor, be like be like

2060
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: craft walking in. Yeah, you got it. Light the mood,

2061
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: the mood, light the mood. Light in the mood is right, Jesus.

2062
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,799
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break.

2063
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 1: All right, let's score the game. Still, dude, you guys

2064
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: just saw my brain explode on here. So yeah, name

2065
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: the game. Let's name the game. This is the averall game.

2066
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciated game.

2067
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 3: Score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time?

2068
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 3: Let's score it stakes zero to ten stakes of this

2069
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 3: game decimal's okay, Sean all right.

2070
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 1: So Messier guaranteed a Game seven win against the New

2071
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Jersey Devils. They went on to win the Stanley Cup

2072
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: in ninety four. So as far as the Battle of

2073
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: the Hudson goes, it's second place.

2074
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 2: Uh what does that mean? It's an eight.

2075
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 9: It's nice, all right, Yeah, that's a pro score. Pro

2076
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,799
Speaker 9: Score just had Danny DeVito on the show. He's producing

2077
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 9: a show with Mark Messi about Game sevens. They covered

2078
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 9: that game in it.

2079
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, oh I oh, yes, I've seen this. Okay,

2080
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: I need to watch it. Yeah, good, it's good. Okay,

2081
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna score it a. I'll give it a eight

2082
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: point one. It's playoff game, playoff game game. There's a

2083
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: lot of heat there. You got a little rivalry cross

2084
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: town or whatever cross six.

2085
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 5: Point slightly Russian judge of me, Jax a hater a

2086
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 5: little bit later, sorry six point jack.

2087
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,679
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing over here. I'm just wild.

2088
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 3: I just don't let them. I just don't let him

2089
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 3: get off the ground. That's a good score. Star power

2090
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 3: zero to ten decimls. Okay, the people that played in it.

2091
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 3: Maybe the people that are at it, I mean the

2092
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 3: star power. Oh yeah, oh, hall of famers.

2093
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah no, this this is a this could compete with with. Yeah,

2094
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 1: there was Liam Neeson. We had some big Margot Robbie

2095
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: I think was at that game. If you go to

2096
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,719
Speaker 1: wire image nice, give it an eight point wire I'll

2097
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: give it an eight point nine.

2098
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 5: Let me get some watermark star you're in New York, Yeah, yeah,

2099
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 5: I give you.

2100
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 2: I give you eight five. Rangers rosters stacked legend.

2101
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 3: Mine's a little biased because I don't know hockey guys

2102
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 3: that well. So like if I knew the the amount

2103
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 3: of studs on this as much as a five is nice,

2104
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 3: it's yeah.

2105
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 2: I forgot Margot Robbie such a big Ranger fan. Yeah yeah,

2106
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 2: I kind of seven point eight. I had an eight

2107
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 2: point one.

2108
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 1: Nice the game player of the game one to ten decimals, Okay,

2109
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:35,679
Speaker 1: I mean.

2110
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 2: A lot of penalties, A lot of penalties.

2111
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really nice. It was like Americana. I'll

2112
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,799
Speaker 1: go in eight one. I'm like that eight five again,

2113
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 1: because I mean we got a fucking rule name after

2114
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: the game time, No seven, I went seven to four.

2115
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: Now you gotta you got a grade the name of

2116
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: the game.

2117
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 2: Every rule game, av rule game. Good.

2118
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 1: It's so cultural history. Like people know this fucking game.

2119
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: And I've told people that I'm having you on, like

2120
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: my hockey friends. Yeah, and they go, what game you doing.

2121
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 1: I go, I'm doing We're doing the Aver rule game.

2122
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, fuck that motherfucker. Yeah. It's like I

2123
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: guess I could die knowing. Like I mean, Jordan had

2124
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: a flu game. It was it was an identifiable game.

2125
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: That's this game, right that, I mean the rule game.

2126
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 3: The Constitution of Hockey passed in an amendment and an

2127
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 3: executive decision to pass an.

2128
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 2: Amendment for this rule because of this game. Because of you.

2129
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the name of this game. Yeah. Let me

2130
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: let me go.

2131
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 2: I'll go a nine one, I'll go a flat nine. Okay.

2132
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 3: I like it because and my test to that is

2133
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 3: because I I have like a select few hockey friends, right,

2134
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 3: and I go, I just throughout that we're doing the

2135
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 3: Avery game.

2136
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh, everyone knew it. You know, those are these generally

2137
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 1: high scores.

2138
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: This is gonna be game. It's gonna be pretty good.

2139
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 2: I was eight too here again too low. You can't

2140
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 2: call the history of the NHL without the Sean Ay,

2141
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: that's right, baby, sir.

2142
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 4: Eight.

2143
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 3: So it's eight one. Where does that stack up in

2144
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 3: all the games we've done?

2145
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 2: A point one zero? That puts us right here. It's

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01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 2: gonna be our twenty seventh game overalls, just above UFC

2147
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 2: two twenty nine could be Bruce McGregor, and just below

2148
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven Western Conference Playoffs game six

2149
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 2: Mas versus Warriors, Mark Cuban and Dana White, good company.

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01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,799
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll take that. What a what a what a list?

2151
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Look at that list? Holy shit, hockey games, man, some games.

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01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's a very healthy spot to be in.

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01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: That is actually, thank you.

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01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 3: That's our that's our second highest ranked I believe hockey game.

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01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 5: This is the travesty, right behind Miracle on Ice America

2156
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 5: and Ice four.

2157
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 2: Overall we have three Patriots games.

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01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: We know you guys have a little bit of American

2159
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 1: bias for sure, not a little.

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01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 2: That's a wilder.

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Speaker 1: When I look at that list and you got the

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01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Miracle on Ice at four, Wow.

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Speaker 2: What is a travesty? Here's I'm looking at this. The

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01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Stand Cup Final Game seven Bruins Canucks is

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Speaker 2: fiftieth the Riots. Yeah yeah, let alone.

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01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 1: But what was twenty eleven Mavericks versus Heat? Was that

2167
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 1: a good series game?

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Speaker 2: Six? That's just okay? Mark Mark Cuban came in and

2169
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: scored it outrageous. Got it revamped. Our scoring system became

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01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: after we had to read that's why we started the

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01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: number game and it was like this is oh he's

2172
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 2: a marketing genius, my god system. So we used to

2173
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 2: just do the score B and then we were like, okay,

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01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 2: jewels scores, we score. He scored just too with it. Well,

2175
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 2: he knows how to do.

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01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 5: He knows the algoid's wild.

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01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Wow, sha we miss anything from this game?

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Speaker 1: Uh, dude, I wish cameo was around back then. You

2179
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 1: know how many fucking cameos I would have gone.

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01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 2: They had merch outside of the stadium, didn't I already

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01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 2: selling a bootleg? Yeah, I'm one of my friends. Do

2182
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 2: I see your camera? Lot?

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01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: People love? Sean Avery cameos. Sean Avery cameos. I just

2184
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: told uh a loving husband that he was welcoming a

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01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: new child to the family, second child. I do everything

2186
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: I break up, I said, divorce notices. I fucking you

2187
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 1: got anything you want cleaned up? I can do it

2188
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: on cameo. Yeah, so everyone Sean avery on cameo.

2189
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 3: Just go and watch them. They're fun to just be

2190
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 3: very fun to watch. Out all his TikTok Instagram pages.

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01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, TikTok. Yeah, TikTok.

2192
01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 4: What is it?

2193
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Sean avery At, I'm Sean Avery. I am Sean Avery.

2194
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 3: Fucking fun. Thanks man, I appreciate you coming on, dude.

2195
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, appreciate it. Guys. Thanks great, ma'am. We

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01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 2: need more hockey, guys, love mysole. Hey, hit the nail

2198
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 2: on the head, brother, lovable asshole. I told you you're right.

2199
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 2: You just he's just unfiltered.

2200
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 3: Like if he says something, he'll say it right to

2201
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 3: your face what he believes, and no one's off limits.

2202
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: Hey, he keeps his it's right, there's some respect behind that.

2203
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 2: I messed with it, man.

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01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 5: A person that could do that built a career off

2205
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 5: that fucking past standing on business. He's a beast.

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01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 2: I loved him.

2207
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 5: I'm I'm trying to come to the block parties, man,

2208
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 5: the block part roll through his I'm trying to roll

2209
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 5: through the LORDL Canyon.

2210
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 2: Maybe little canyon man, block parties. Awesome.

2211
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 5: Property values just went up knowing that Sean Avery's in

2212
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 5: the neighborhood keeping it safe.

2213
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 1: He keeps gosh, I don't know, exacting like a hot

2214
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: but guy, yeah, it does.

2215
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: It does feel safe having him up there. I felt

2216
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 2: safer with him in the in the in the room.

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01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Here our beef with affleck like practically squatched, knowing that

2218
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Sean's on our side. Now with that a doubt, with

2219
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: that a doubt. That was a fun episode.

2220
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: If I'm getting in like a bar fight once shown

2221
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 2: on My Team.

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01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 3: Brawl, He's getting a pool stick, he's breaking a bottle,

2223
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 3: jabbing someone like, getting him in the gut.

2224
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: That's how you gotta do it. Maybe, yeah, hey, all

2225
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: is fair.

2226
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 1: The art of what he say, uh oh, mask, it's right.

2227
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 3: I mean the one goalie or the one ref to

2228
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 3: the two refs. He's like, yeah, you know, two refs

2229
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 3: is a little tough.

2230
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, two sets of eyes out there watching you. Man.

2231
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 2: That was fun. That was awesome, awesome.

2232
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 3: It's time for the Chill Zone, brought to you by

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Speaker 3: Visitcorslight dot com, slash gwn celebrate responsibly. Today we're hitting

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Speaker 3: the old hotline or should we say the cold line again?

2237
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 3: That number is four two four two nine one two

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01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 3: two nine zero.

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01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys. So I'm a big Patriots fan, of course,

2241
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 7: and I lived through both dynasties. And one thing that

2242
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 7: they both had in common is of reliable passing down

2243
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 7: running back.

2244
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 2: So Jules played with both Kevin Falk.

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01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 7: And H James White, and then Shanebourine was in the middle.

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01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 7: I was wondering if you could compare and contrast them

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01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 7: on the field and off the field.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, wow, little scatbag love Well. Kevin Falk was

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01:58:56,280 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 3: like the innovator, uh, Kevin Falk had. We used to

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01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 3: have a drill where you worked on your jump cuts

2251
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 3: in the off season with like ropes and ship and

2252
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 3: we used to call it the k Falk droll because

2253
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 3: he had such a good cutback. And people don't realize

2254
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:13,879
Speaker 3: he's like I think n C two, a punt returner,

2255
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 3: like holds all the records. He was a monster. I

2256
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 3: learned a lot through from Kevin through like returning punts.

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01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 3: I remember he used to teach me early on in

2258
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 3: my career.

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01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 2: He was he was.

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01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 3: He was only on the tail part of his career.

2261
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 3: When I was there, he was like one of the

2262
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 3: smartest players.

2263
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:33,919
Speaker 2: He knew everything.

2264
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 3: You could tell he's been he'd been around for a while,

2265
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 3: and he had such a pedigree. He had so many

2266
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 3: big plays and he made a lot of big plays

2267
01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 3: for us.

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01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: That fourth and two.

2269
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 3: Against that was a first down against uh Indianapolis down.

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01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 2: That was That was too k Falk.

2271
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 3: That and Kevin Falk was like the innovator of we

2272
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 3: of putting the running back in the slot.

2273
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 2: He could run routes in the slot.

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01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we used to have formations name off after

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02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 3: Tiger LSU Tiger which put the you know, the h

2276
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 3: over in the slot over here. Like there was a

2277
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 3: bunch of stuff that was because of Kevin Falk. He

2278
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 3: was kind of like the innovator of the whole thing.

2279
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 2: Shane Vereen hold on before we move on from Kevin

2280
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 2: fuck Marshall Fuwx's cousin.

2281
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marshall Falk's cousin, which Marshall Falk the thing. I mean,

2282
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 3: it's it's it's every like it's crazy. And Kate Falk

2283
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 3: was such an awesome veteran to be around. I loved

2284
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 3: Kate Falke. I owe him a lot he you know,

2285
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 3: I was I didn't know how to catch punts and shit,

2286
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 3: and and Bill would like he would like in organized

2287
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 3: team activities and mini camps and stuff, he'd like walk

2288
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 3: around you and make you nervous right when you were

2289
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 3: catching punts.

2290
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 2: And Kay Falk would always talk me off the ledge.

2291
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 2: So I love Kate Falk.

2292
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 3: Shane Verene one of my roommates, one of my favorite guys.

2293
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 3: He was just he was also the one thing in

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02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 3: common with all of these guys. They were all really smart,

2295
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 3: smart guys, really smart football players, really great in protections

2296
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 3: because they're running back.

2297
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 2: They had they did it.

2298
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 3: They ran a lot of routes, but they also had

2299
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 3: to like know their protections. And all those guys could

2300
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 3: lay the wood and and pick up those linebackers and

2301
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 3: knew the protections very well. And then James White, you

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Speaker 3: know Shane, I mean, he was just a great football

2303
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 3: player and he ended up leaving us, but huge part

2304
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 3: of why we won in fourteen at the record reception records.

2305
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it was beat by James White.

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02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 3: You know, uh, you know, James White, like one of

2307
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 3: the best professionals, didn't say much when he talked.

2308
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 2: You knew it was. It was somewhat.

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02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 3: It was important you listened because you didn't hear him talk,

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02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 3: which he's doing great on TV right now. He's on

2311
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 3: the Big ten network, I believe, and he's killing it.

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02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 3: I love watching him. I love listening to him on

2313
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 3: social Uh. But I think in order to play that

2314
02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 3: position for us, those were all some of our smart

2315
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 3: this guys on our team.

2316
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

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02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 3: They all worked extremely hard, so they all had a

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02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 3: lot of the same.

2319
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 2: Shout out the money Down Podcast, James.

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Speaker 1: Money Down Podcast. All right, I got money down, money down.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's James Whitees. Yeah, money down.

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02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 2: The Money Down Podcast. Oh, James, Jorge, that's what it is.

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02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,760
Speaker 2: Money down. Hey, what's up? Dog? You can't even give

2324
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 2: me on their dog? Got some third dollars here, dog?

2325
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Speaker 2: All right, good time for two more. Here we go.

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Speaker 2: That was a good question.

2327
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:35,920
Speaker 10: Hi everyone, I'm Angela from Dallas, Texas. Longtime listener, first

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Speaker 10: time caller. In a few episodes, Julian has mentioned the

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02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 10: Formula one. Is he F one fan or in general

2330
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 10: a fan of auto racing? I think it would be

2331
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 10: great if games with Names featured a F one race.

2332
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 2: Thank you F one fan. I wouldn't call like.

2333
02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 3: The whole Netflix thing you got everyone excited about, and

2334
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:05,280
Speaker 3: I loved. I love that old movie what was it Rush?

2335
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not old old.

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02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 3: That's ten years old now, bro, that's probably ten fifteen

2337
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 3: years old. Okay, when they talked about Ricky Lauda and

2338
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 3: Sam Hunt loved that story. I love race movies. I

2339
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 3: love Nascar. I like Nascar a little more than I

2340
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 3: like Formula one because I'm American. Okay, it seems a

2341
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 3: little more equal, Like the richest team in F one

2342
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 3: always wins. I love watching those guys. I love seeing

2343
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 3: the little feuds between what's.

2344
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:35,760
Speaker 1: The the guy for Red Bull in one?

2345
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 3: Scott, what's the main guy? He's like the number one

2346
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 3: guy verse stopping. I just know that I got a

2347
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 3: bunch of watch it and I love it. And uh, who's.

2348
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:51,360
Speaker 2: Danny? Uh?

2349
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 3: Daniel Daniel Riccardo. We've we have crossover, we have some

2350
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 3: mutual friends. So yeah, I know I I know his

2351
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 3: story a little bit that I think that would be cool.

2352
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 3: I would love to get a racer on just to

2353
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 3: pick their brain on how they how they like prepare.

2354
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 2: And you know there's all.

2355
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 3: These YouTube videos of of like in documentaries of how

2356
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 3: these guys prepare for their reaction and stuff, and actually

2357
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 3: have met in What's is Lewis Hamilton again?

2358
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 2: I met Mercedes?

2359
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like it's always it's crazy, but I I

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Speaker 1: I definitely respect those guys.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are crazy, they're athletes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I, uh, but I'm more I would say

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Speaker 3: I'm more of a nascargo, more of a core trick,

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Speaker 3: cold trickle kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: Hit me no call, he rubbed you. Rubbing is racing,

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Speaker 2: all right, Angela, why do you send us back a

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Speaker 2: game or a match or a race that we should do, Like,

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Speaker 2: send us some more racist.

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Speaker 3: I think I might do the jap the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 3: nine Japan one when Ricky Lauda didn't race after his Like,

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Speaker 3: we could do that one. It's the same. It's pretty

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Speaker 3: much the movie the movie tam Hunt had to win qualify.

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Speaker 3: It was a ballsy move, all right. Only only you

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Speaker 3: tire heads would know.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, great episode with how we long really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: I have got a question for you, what about possibly

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Speaker 4: having Stephen Ridley on as a guest? I think that

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Speaker 4: would be fun. Thanks bye one.

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Speaker 2: He's been around lately.

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Speaker 3: He's been around. Yeah, yeah, we uh quick fun story

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Speaker 3: about me and Rid. And by the way, Howie was

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Speaker 3: so fun. He makes I feel like, you know, put

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Speaker 3: a good performance around him. He's like a dad figure

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Speaker 3: at work.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you don't want this my dad, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I have some of the I'm friends with his son,

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Speaker 3: so it's like one of your boys.

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Speaker 2: Did they say anything after, like, oh we did? Okay, clear,

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard back. Haven't heard me and Chris talk,

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Speaker 2: but we don't. I don't know. I always forget what

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Speaker 2: we talk about. You gotta get Chris back in this year.

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Speaker 3: We gotta get christ and Kyle. He's my favorite one.

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Speaker 3: He's my favorite guy. I love Kyle.

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Speaker 2: We gotta get HOIGHI long Junior, see what I don't know?

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Speaker 2: The Raiders sales departments up too. Yeah, we got it.

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Speaker 2: But getting back to Rid.

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Speaker 3: Just had Rid at the house post fire two days

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Speaker 3: after bring him out. Probably shouldn't be going where we

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Speaker 3: were going towards Pala States. All of a sudden, and

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Speaker 3: we and people are looking at us. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: driving in Brentwood and and and like Santa Monica, the

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Speaker 3: like north of Montana. People are looking at us. We

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Speaker 3: have like masks on run fucking Super seventy three. He's

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Speaker 3: looking at us like we're looters. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: we're going by two people and I look in the

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Speaker 3: corner of my eye. Rid is trying to show off

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Speaker 3: and going like sidewalk through a jump because he's really

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Speaker 3: like supermoto cross kind of guy, and fucking does this.

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Speaker 3: I look at the corner, mind, I just see Ridley

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Speaker 3: parallel with the side sidewalk and it's it. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 3: he fucking fell off the bike. I was like, and

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Speaker 3: so I couldn't stop laughing in front of people. I'm like, see,

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Speaker 3: we're not looters, We're just regular people. It was fucking crazy,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we got to get rid of le On.

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Speaker 3: It'd be a real fun episode. Cool, great voicemails. You

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Speaker 3: gotta keep them coming, guys. Those are some really in

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Speaker 3: depth questions. What was her name from?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Angela Angela, Angela Angela?

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Speaker 3: And then who was the we didn't get a name

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Speaker 3: for the We didn't get a name for the running

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Speaker 3: back we need?

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Speaker 2: We had a questions running back the show before? Who

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Speaker 2: have we had a pat patriot running back on the

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Speaker 2: show before?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but we have to get we have

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Speaker 3: we have some guys that we gotta get on.

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Speaker 2: We need to do that.

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Speaker 3: We got to get kave Halkong guys. Keep them coming.

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Speaker 3: Avery more Hockey high guys. Hockey guys are awesome and

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Speaker 3: neighborhood Watch guys. We've been really in contact over these fires.

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Speaker 3: He's been holding down my daughter's neighborhood while I've been

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Speaker 3: over at my house holding down my neighborhood. So good

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