1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: And all starts with Gino Smith. I love what he's doing. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: He's efficient. Last game wasn't his most efficient. I think 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: he completed around sixty five percent of his passes, but 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: he was still able to get in and out of 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: the huddle, throw the football down the field. I think 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: we saw the most exposive players through the air last week. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: When you look at this offense, Big Ray, what do 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: you see? What do you like? Well? I like the 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: variety and the diversity of what they're doing on offense. 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: So last year we talked a lot, or the last 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: couple of years, we talked a lot about how it 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: seemed like the run game in the passing game, we're 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: on two separate tracks and they hadn't been kind of 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: blended together or married together. It's my term, and this 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: year it seems more married together. So you see the 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: variety in the run game that kind of mirrors the 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: passing game. So the play action pass game to run, 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: the first two or three steps looks like a run play. 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: It gives a Gino a chance to get outside the pocket, 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: away of some space to throw the ball, and then 21 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: the running game. The running game has been really it 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: started out slow. Penny wasn't getting as many carries as 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: we like, but it's picked up the last few weeks. Unfortunately, 24 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: pennies out right now. But that's what I like. It 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: seems like a very comprehensive offense that has kind of 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: jailed and well together. And on top of that, the 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: newness in the quarterback even though he'd been around, but 28 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: he's a new starter. You have two rookie tackles planned, 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: and you have a new center. So to be able 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: to bring all of that together and have that type 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: of production of this offense is pretty cool. First off, 32 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I feel bad I didn't give my guy the proper 33 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: like announcement right now. This is big Ray tenth round 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: tenth pick, Sorry, no tenth round tenth pick in the 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: what ninety one drive, ninety two drives. He was here 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, he was there with the Detroit Lions. 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: A block for him, and he is my partner when 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: it comes to the pre halftime in post game show 39 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: on the radio. So whenever I have offensive line are 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: just any type of ideas, I always lean on Ray 41 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: roberts Man. And one thing Ray that I like too 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: is that DK and Tyler Lockett both shine Last week 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett had two touchdowns, DK have one, probably should 44 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: have had two. But I feel like the expansion of 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: the past game is a result of one getting the 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: tight Ends involved and having a strong run game. Yeah. Well, 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I think the cool thing about the offense too is that, 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: uh you know, they're they're using all the weapons slash here. 49 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: It was like one game it would be DKA, the 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: next game it was Tyler. So it was like they're 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of loading up from game to game. But uh 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Gino and Shane Waldon, to his credit, uh Gino is 53 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: executing an offense as using everybody. I remember, I think 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: it was four games into the season last year the 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: tight Ends had seventeen targets total, and this year you 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: can see that. You know, they all have touchdowns, they 57 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: all get multiple targets each game, they have multiple catches 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: each game, and so and then the running game is going. 59 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: And then you have a game where both Tyler and 60 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: DCA are shining in the same game. So that's just 61 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: something you didn't see it in the last couple of years. 62 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: And so to be able to have um Gino operating 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the offense that way and Shane kind of you know, 64 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: organizing and calling plays that way. It's a good thing 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: for the Seas. Now the highlight has been the offense. Right, 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: we can all agree upon that that offense has been 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders. It looks good. Last week they 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: were in the greatest on third downs. I believe there 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: were one for nine, but they were still able to 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: create explosive plays. We got to talk about this defense. 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I understand that, at least for me, going into the season, 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I thought that the defense would carry the offense. But 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: it's a complete opposite. And I look at what the 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: offense has, and in hindsight, it's usually twenty twenty, unless 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Mariners and Robby Ray and all 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: that stuff, right, But hindsights twenty twenty, and I'm looking 77 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: at this thing, and I'm like, all right, well, Gino's 78 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: a veteran, you got two really good receivers, got a 79 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: tight end room that looks good. The only question mark 80 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: probably was on that offensive line. So now when I 81 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: look at that defense, I'm thinking, there's a new scheme, 82 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: you got new coaches, you have rookies who are contributing. 83 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Right now, when you look at this defense, how do 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: we get right? I mean, it's a broad question. Well, 85 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: it's not something they're gonna be able to fix overnight, right, 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to chip away at it. And 87 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: then and maybe two or three games we could decide, 88 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: like if they're getting better or not. But when I 89 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: look at it, all those things you just said, you 90 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: have a new scheme, you have some new players, we 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: have a new coaches, and I think Bruce Irvin they 92 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: just signed this week or yesterday thirty five, but he 93 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: hit playing football. He hit the nail on the head 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: when he said that he thought that the communication was 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: an issue. And when you think about all of that newness, 96 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: new system, new players, new coaches. Uh man, it could 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: it could be something that simple. And you may say, like, well, 98 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: how hard it is to get people lined up, But 99 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different calls and checks and things 100 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: that are going on on defensive. You need to communicate 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: and or be able to learn to communicate to a 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: person to get the best out of the best part 103 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: of communication too. But I think, you know, to be 104 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: honest with you two though, I think there may be 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: some players that may not quite fit the system you like, 106 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, like the if you look at Puna Ford. 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, his greatest skill with his quickness 108 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 1: and his speed and leverage is getting after them, getting 109 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: after people. But now he's been asked to sit back 110 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: and read and then react. And he's a little smaller guys, 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: so you're playing against bigger dudes taking on double team, 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: so it kind of makes him a little less effective. 113 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: So you got to kind of take those things in consideration. 114 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: But I think the communication and then just guys just 115 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: really feeling comfortable and free in the defense is what's 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: going to make the difference. Yeah, I agree with you. 117 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: I think it's crazy about this defense is that the plays, 118 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: the bigger plays that are being made are being made 119 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: by the young guys. Man. You got Kobe Bryant two 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: weeks in a row of forrest fumble. You got Serk 121 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Wooling three weeks in a row with an interception. So 122 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I know that you guys out there are panicking about 123 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: this defense, as you should right there getting up a 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: lot of points, a lot of yards. But I want 125 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: you to look deeper into what's going on and find 126 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: some positives because going into this season, I doubt anyone 127 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: to hear would say this is a playoff team. They're 128 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: gonna win ten games. If you thought this team was 129 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: gonna win ten games or age in exactly right. So 130 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: we got we got one in the back, young rich 131 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: in the back, all right, But in reality we thought, like, 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: this is a team that is trying to figure out 133 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: who they are and how to build. And when you 134 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: see young guys making these plays consistently, that's what you 135 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: should be focused on. I get, we want to win games, 136 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: but we gotta find some positives somewhere around. Yeah, I 137 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: mean you have to. And then even if you look 138 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: at some of the other new guys on a team 139 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: like new Wolsu, I mean I think he's only been 140 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: in the league, what four or five years. Yeah, he's 141 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: still relatively a young dude, and he's out there. You're 142 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: making an impact and making a play. Jordan Brooks is 143 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: what his second year Cody Barton like, there's still a 144 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: bunch of young dudes. You don't have to be a 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: rookie to be young. So this defense is really young 146 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: that if you really think about it. But the cool 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: thing is that when the Seahawks are old, the legion 148 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: of Boom, all those dudes have to come along. They 149 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: were playing a bunch of young guys, and those guys 150 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: you had to take your lumps and your and your 151 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: humps with them, and so I think that that's kind 152 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: of where they are, like, but it wasn't a new system, 153 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: but I think that's kind of where they are in 154 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: the development of this of the players that are in 155 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: the system. So we'll see how it goes. I think 156 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: if they can get some handle on the run game first, 157 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I think that'll help them a little bit because then 158 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: they can pin their ears back and get after the quarterback. 159 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: But they have to find a way to stop the 160 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: run or other teams. We are just going to keep 161 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: doing it, all right. So let's talk about Shane Waldron, 162 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: the office ave coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. Last year, 163 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: you got Russell Wilson, future Hall of Fame quarterback. Maybe 164 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: it feels like, I know, like recent history makes you 165 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: think that he's not gonna get in, but when you 166 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: look at his resume, obviously this guy can play some 167 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: good football. Last year I felt like he was kind 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: of handcuffed by Russell Wilson because you're you're dealing with 169 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: a guy who's been there, who's done it, who has 170 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: his own views on how he thinks this often should roll. 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: But this year you got Geno Smith, a guy who 172 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: has set for eight years, you know what I mean, 173 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: who has learned from Russell, from Eli, from Philip Rivers, 174 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: and I feel like he's able to blossom and really 175 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,119 Speaker 1: be his true self. We know what it's like being 176 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: a player and being able to be your true self. 177 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's what we're seeing offensively. And I 178 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: love the variety. I love the shifts, the motions they're getting, 179 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: the tight ends involved. The Titans have been more involved 180 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: this year than we've ever seen before. When you think 181 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: of Shane Walton as a play caller opposed to this 182 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: year and last year, what are your thoughts? What do 183 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: you think? Well? I think, like you think, I think 184 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: he's been freed up to kind of call the game 185 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the way the way he wants to call it. I remember, 186 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe the first game and we're 187 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: sitting there watching the game and Uh, it was like 188 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: we're like, man, there's no way they're gonna be able 189 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: to go in like a eight or nine play seventy 190 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: yard drive. And they were able to do that, and 191 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: that has kind of been what they do. They go 192 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: they're able to then conduct when they need to. And 193 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: then at you know, second game of the season, they 194 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: open up the playbook so that they can start taking 195 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: shots down the field. And it's not like taking shots 196 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: to just take shots, you know, they're setting up the plays. 197 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: They're they're you know, drawing in the defense, drawing into coverage, 198 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: and then take shots over the over the top. And 199 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: then the cool thing about all of that is that 200 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: Gino was playing within his ability. He's not trying to 201 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: be Russell Wilson. He's not trying to be Lamar Jackson. 202 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: He's not trying to be Tom Brady. He's just been 203 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's just been Geno Smith. And as long 204 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: as he stays in that lane, and as long as 205 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: Shane can make these adjustments as teams start to kind 206 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: of zero in on what they like to do and 207 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: take those things away, I think I think you'll still 208 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: see the same offense. All right. I like what I'm 209 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: seeing so far. Hey, we got a great squad right 210 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: here at bellev Square Center Court. When we return, we'll 211 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: talk to Darren Urban from Cardinals dot Com. That is 212 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: next right here on Hawkslide. Right now, we are joined 213 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: by Darren Urban from Cardinals dot Com. Darren, what's up, man, 214 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. How are you? We are good man, 215 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. And you know, this is a 216 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: division rivalry going on right now. And I look at 217 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Darren, and I see a team that is potent, 218 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: a team that could explode at any moment moment offensively defensively. 219 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: When you guys look at the Seahawks, be honest with me, bro, 220 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: what do you see. I see a team that's playing 221 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: much better offensively than I'm thinking everybody would have guessed 222 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: at the time, and I see a defense that's obviously struggling. 223 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny because in a lot of ways, 224 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: it's the exact opposite of what the Cardinals are going 225 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: through right now. Their defense. The Cardinals defense is actually 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: playing pretty well right now, and their offense just has 227 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: not been able to find any kind of consistency. So 228 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be real interesting to see how these 229 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: teams actually match up on the field and how it 230 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: kind of filters out, because, like I said, right now, 231 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: it seems like the strength of one team is facing 232 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the weakness of the other team, and what that means 233 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: from the scoreboard will be I'm curious to see, Hey, Darren, 234 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: speaking of your offense, and you know this all season, 235 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk going on with Kyla 236 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Murray and a social media page and then the contract 237 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: and the clauses in the contract about studying film from 238 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: the small sample side you've had this year, have you 239 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: seen growth in him from what you saw last year 240 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: to this year. I have seen growth in him, and 241 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: some of it is off the field type of stuff. 242 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think right now they're not getting and 243 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: this goes for an offense across the board, but obviously 244 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: it starts with a quarterback. I don't think they're getting 245 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: the kind of play consistently that they'd like to get 246 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: from him. Now. Why that is, I'm not sure. I'm 247 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: not sure if it's because they're starting slow and having 248 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: to play from behind all the time, if it's because 249 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: they're not being able to get enough explosive plays. I mean, 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: right now, this team has got one play of thirty 251 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: yards of the season and that's just not going to 252 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: get it done in today's NFL. So when it comes 253 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: to Kyler, I mean, he's still a very effective quarterback 254 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: and they'll get DeAndre Hopkins back next week. But this 255 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: offense was supposed to be better than it is right now, 256 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: and they've got to figure out why it's been kind 257 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: of sluggish. Darren. One, I want to make a statement 258 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: because I love the Black Helmets. I love the Black Helmets. 259 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're received over there in Arizona. 260 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: And two, I want to ask you about just the 261 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: production of Marquis Brown Man Hollywood. Brown He's been doing 262 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: this thing. He had a catching run last week that 263 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: was extremely impressive, something that you don't just do in 264 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: the NFL unless you have the wiggle and the burners 265 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: to do it. How do you feel about him and 266 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: this receiving core in general. Um, well, let me start 267 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: by saying I like the helmets too. You know, they 268 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: only spare him a couple of times, but I do 269 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: like the helmets. Um, I think quite frankly, I think 270 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood has been exactly what they were hoping for. Now. 271 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, the idea ultimately is for him to team 272 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins, So that changes some things not only 273 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: for him but for Hopkins, and it'll make things suffer 274 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: for defenses. Now, obviously that's gonna be at moot point 275 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: this weekend because Hopkins wasn't playing, but considering of who 276 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: he's got around him in Hopkins, he is not playing. 277 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: I think Hollywood has done a really nice job. It 278 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: took a couple of weeks for everything to kind of 279 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: come together, but he's impressed me. He could up a 280 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: drop last week that could have been a long touchdown, 281 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: But for the most part, his hands have been really good. 282 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: He's made some catches in traffic that the reputations he 283 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't and he has. And he's been their most effective 284 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: receiver and he's one of the things that they can 285 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: point to offensively that you've been really excited about. Hey, Darren, 286 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: on your defensive side, JJ Watt has four sacks in 287 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: the five games here. But there was a procedure that 288 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: he went through last week before the game. Can you 289 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about what that was, 290 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and then also just to impact of having him on 291 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: the field, Well, he went through it. It came out 292 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: not before last week, but two weeks ago before they 293 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: played Carolina, there was going to be there was a 294 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: leak that he had had an eight fifth situation where 295 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: he essentially had to go under and have his heart 296 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: shocked back in the regular of them in the middle 297 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: of the week. That was on a Thursday, and then 298 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: he ended up playing Sunday and it had leaked out 299 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: and somebody was going to report on it Sunday morning, 300 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: so he decided to tweet it. And we talked about 301 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: to him after the game, and he was emotional about 302 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: just the whole situation. He's got a baby that's going 303 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: to be born as his first kid in the next 304 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and there was just a lot a 305 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: lot of him emotionally at the time. But all the 306 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: doctor said what he was doing was there was nothing 307 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: wrong with it. He could go ahead and play. He 308 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: wasn't risking anything. So he's played, and this team is 309 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: better when JJ Watts on the field. I mean, last 310 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: week was one of the few times J Botts when 311 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: he's been able to play. He's not JJ Watt of 312 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, but he's still very effective. And their defensive 313 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: line has played well. Zach Allen as their best defensive 314 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: line in their defense considering a couple of the pieces 315 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: they've lost, and the off season has played really well lately. 316 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: And again that's why I'm very years to see. Okay, 317 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: how does Zach Allen and J. J. Watt and cornerback 318 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Fired Murphy and Buddha Baker. How do those guys stack 319 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: up to how Gino Smith has been doing. We're talking 320 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: to Darren Urban from Cardinals dot Com. My question to 321 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: you is, Man, this team has been successful on the road, 322 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: has struggled at home. Why is that? And do they 323 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: recognize that and think that they're going to come in 324 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: and Lumanfield and just do the thing. I assume that 325 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: every team thinks that there's gonna show up and play 326 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: the ball. But what's the difference between home and a 327 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: way with this team? I'm sure they wish they knew, 328 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: because the home thing has been a become a real 329 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: problem in terms of how it's gone and the frustration 330 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: of the fans. It's It's funny because even before they 331 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: started playing really well on the road, this team has 332 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: done really well in Seattle over the last decade or so. 333 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, even when the Cardinals weren't the best, 334 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: they were able to find some ways. I mean even 335 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: last year year they didn't have Hopkins, they didn't have 336 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and they were still able to win that game. So, um, 337 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why there's a comfort level in Seattle, 338 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: but they played pretty solid football. But in terms of 339 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the bigger picture, I can only guess that they feel, 340 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more US against the world 341 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: on the road. But if they could figure it out, 342 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: they absolutely would have brought it home because they've lost 343 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: the eight row at home and that's again, that's been 344 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: a sticking point this week. It's not as bad because 345 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: you're playing a road game, but they know in the 346 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: back of their heads Thursday night they got to come 347 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: back home and everybody's gonna be talking about him again. Hey, Darren, 348 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: the Seats have three very capable, talented tight ends and 349 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: that can really challenge your second level defenders. And I 350 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: assume that maybe Isaiah Simmons will will get some of 351 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: that coverage. How do you think those match us will 352 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: will fair with Isaiah? Well, you know, Isaiah's had kind 353 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: of an interesting season. He came out the first week 354 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: he was charged with trying to take on Travis Kelsey 355 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, which is a tough first week for any 356 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: team going against Patrick Maholmes, and he lit him up. 357 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: And Isaiah Simmons didn't play well, lost lost some tough 358 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: playing time until he kind of figured some things out. 359 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: He's back to playing full time. I think Isaiah's playing better. 360 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: He's an athletic freak and he's got it in him 361 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: to play very effectively. And he's made some plays against 362 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: Seattle in the past. But um, they're looking they're still 363 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: looking for consistency from him, and I think he's a 364 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: guy that's got to play well. Him and Zavian Collins 365 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: a couple of first round linebackers. They're the kind of 366 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: guys that need to play well. I mean, ultimately, as 367 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: as good as Geno Smith has been, they want to 368 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: make sure they stopped Kenneth Walker this weekend. They want 369 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that the Seahawks are facing some third 370 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: and longs and uh and Isaiah Simmons is going to 371 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: be a big part of that. He is Darren Urban 372 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: from Cardinals dot Com. Man, we appreciate you taking time 373 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: out of your day and hollering at us. Man, no problem, 374 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. All right, Hey, if you are 375 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: not here, get here. If you are here, make sure 376 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: you holler at my guy Richie over there. We got 377 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: raffles going down. That's gonna happen soon. But when we return, 378 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to corner already Burns. That's next right 379 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: here on Hawks Live. Now we are joined by Already 380 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Burns Corner for the Seahawks. What up already? How you already? 381 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: How are you doing? What's up? Man? I'm doing good man? 382 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: We good man. Thanks for joining us on your your 383 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: night off. I should say, um, how's your body feeling? Man? 384 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: How's the mental feeling? What's your your whole mind? Stay 385 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: right now, bro, you know, body feeling good? You know, 386 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: man feeling good? You know? Um, looking forward to this weekend. 387 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: We could just win. Hey already, this is Ray Roberts. 388 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: You've you've been in the league for six years and 389 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: so you've played a lot of football and uh and 390 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: then coming here to Seattle with this new system and things, 391 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: and it hasn't quite gone how people have expected. On defense? 392 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: What would you say, as a veteran guy who's been around, 393 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: what would you say is, uh, you know, maybe the 394 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: point at which they need to get better. What are 395 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: some of the things they need to do? Uh? You 396 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: know it's still early, you know, Um, everybody's still guys 397 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: still figuring out how to help each other. You know, 398 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: it just all it all just depend on that time 399 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: when they finally click. You know, Uh, everybody's on one 400 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: page and getting getting a job and excute to our 401 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: the whole game. Hey already, Um, you and coach decide 402 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: are pretty close. That that's factoring to your your decision 403 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: making when it comes to uh coming out here to 404 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: the Northwest and and joining the Seahawks. Uh yeah, he was, 405 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: he was. He was a part of it, you know, 406 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: being familiar with uh, with his system, with the system 407 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and uh uh and then uh 408 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: all season prior to this the last one, Uh, Seattle 409 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: reached out to me to come out here, and uh, 410 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, I just showed Chicago because I was already 411 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: did one year out there, because did one year out 412 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: there already, So you know, I just showed it. At 413 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: this time, I don't, you know, I want to come 414 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: out here to you know, hey already. What's um what's 415 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: his football mind? Like? We keep hearing great things. I 416 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: heard he was a professor at a college while he 417 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: was at Chicago. If you could describe him when it 418 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: comes to the mental of the game, how would it be. Uh, 419 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's you know, he's very creative, you know, 420 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: with with the defense. You know, he uh, you know 421 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: got ways, you know, for for everybody to work off 422 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: each other, you know, uh all you have his players one, 423 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I playing guys in the right place, 424 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: you know, to uh you know, to make plays, you know, 425 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: from the front line to the back end. Yeah, already 426 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: when you look at that defensive back room, obviously the 427 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: two rookies and Kobe Bryant and uh Terik Willing are 428 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: playing good football. But all of you guys in that 429 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: room are ballers. Like, so what is right at this point? 430 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: What is your role in that? And then, uh what 431 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: do you see in these two rookie defensive backs. Uh? 432 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: You know, I just you know, as a guy being 433 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: in the league for some years, you know, I just 434 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: try to be a you know, uh the best the 435 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: best team that I can to those guys, you know, 436 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: Uh I was, you know, I had guys like Joe 437 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Head and Mike Mitchell and William Gabe when I was 438 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: a young a younger guy. You know, they kind of like, 439 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: you know, gave me, you know, tools, you know, as 440 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: when I was a young guy to make it make 441 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: my way through you know, forty years, you know, and 442 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: I just you know, I try to be a great teammate. 443 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, like how the how do how those guys were? 444 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: But those two guys, they know, they've been a lot 445 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: of plays and I see them, you know, having a 446 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: good career. You know, they just keep keep doing they're 447 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: doing and you know, standing the pay book. Hey already, 448 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm from California, and you know there's uh a few 449 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: states who want to claim they produced the best football players. 450 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: But I look at Florida. I can't even from bro 451 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: like Florida. Florida puts them out like hey, I'm a man, 452 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you can't just just stomp on Cali 453 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: like that? But what what is it about Florida that 454 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: that allowed you guys to put these dudes out year 455 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: in and year out? What is it? Man? Just you know, 456 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: just the you know, the competition, you know, the weather, 457 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, it just breathe that it just breathe those athletes, 458 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, it's just been going over so 459 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: many years, you know, and uh, you know, I'm just 460 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: proud to be from me. You know what I'm from. 461 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: You don't even be able to do what I could do, 462 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: what I can do, you know, but you know, most 463 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: definitely the best state of football, you know, and show 464 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: me safe. All right, I'm gonna show some love for Sean. 465 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: But you mentioned the weather because that humidity is something else, right, 466 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: that that air is hugging you out there. Um you 467 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: out here in the Northwest now or it's a it's 468 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: a bit thinner, you know, and it's a bit colder. 469 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: Obviously you spent some time in Chicago. How does that 470 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: affect you your play or do you feel like it 471 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: don't matter where you're at, You're gonna line them up 472 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: and knock them down, you know, they don't It don't 473 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: really matter, you know. Uh, definitely been well most all 474 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: of my career. I've been up north to go from 475 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to Chicago. You know, I'm just looking forward to 476 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: you know the weather. The weather changed right now is great. 477 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: So I'm good right now. Hey already when when you're 478 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: not on the field, Uh, what are some of the 479 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: things that you do in your free time that's that's 480 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: not football related? Uh? You know, I got I got 481 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: two younger boys, A j and Saint eight and five. 482 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: You know, I spent most of the time with them, 483 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know my wife Ella, you know, 484 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: and um, I gotta I have a mental part around 485 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Miami dream. You know, that's what I busted doing off season, 486 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, spend time with with something youth out there 487 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: and Miami had played sports and stuff like that, and 488 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: I just bought it. Now I'm a I'm all sports 489 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: all the way, pretty much. I feel it. You you 490 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: got your boys in sports right now. What they're playing? 491 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Uh so my older girl, but both of them playing 492 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: football and track. You know. My oldest boy he, uh, 493 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: you're doing pretty good in both of those. He plays 494 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: for Air Academy out here. Uh he that's a pretty 495 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: uh familiar obvious. Seattle is a familiar team under well 496 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: Bumpus would be that the guy that that knows all 497 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: of all those teams. But uh, but no, when you 498 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: what do you see that's different about you know, like 499 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of players come here or they start here 500 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: and they leave and come back and they say, man, 501 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: like this, the organization is different. The way it's running 502 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: is different. Pete Carroll his rhythm is different. What is 503 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: it that is it? Is it? Really? Is that really true? 504 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: And if so, what is it that makes it different? Uh? 505 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: It's true. You know the difference that I feel it 506 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: is that people a good job of like uh just 507 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: he's making just man, guys, B you know, B you 508 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, and uh and creating a good coach of 509 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, positive vibes. You know. The first thing I 510 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: can't first meeting I had with Seattle the coaches in 511 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: the back of the room, is going crazy to make 512 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: a noise, you know, suring on you know, I'm like, 513 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: what's going on? And then just just catch on to 514 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: you and you become a part of that energy, and 515 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: then that energy is just keep the building going. You know. 516 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: It's just just positive vibes throughout the whole building, you know. 517 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: And then you know, P take taking too care of 518 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: you guys. Know we're health wises, you know, just a 519 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: great spot. You know. It's like that too, Hey, LARTI, 520 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: I alright, look at this defense and obviously you look 521 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: at the numbers and you say, Okay, they're giving up 522 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of yards. But I look 523 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: at the defense and I say, yeah, a lot of yards, 524 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: but they're close to shutting a lot of this stuff down. Um, 525 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: do you feel the same way? And why do you 526 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: feel that way? Uh? Because there's a bunch of playmakers 527 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: all the way across the board. You know, guys, show 528 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: they can make plays. You know, you know, we know 529 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: we can make a lot of plays. And like I said, 530 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: just all about being a sitting root the whole game 531 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: and we'll be up to, you know, be the keeping 532 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: that we know we could do. All right already already, man, 533 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate you taking time out of your day. You guys, 534 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: keep preparing and do your thing. Man, look forward to 535 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: see you on Sunday and almost definitely appreciate it. Appreciate me, 536 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: all right, no problem. Come join us here at Hawks 537 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Live at belbe Square Center Court, where you have a 538 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: chance to win gift cards from the Belvey Collections dining districts. 539 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Tonight they're giving away gift cars too, Fogle to Chow Daniels, Boilers, 540 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Cypress and Lune Wind Wine and Bar, Cactus, Dukes, Seafood 541 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: and Tie Kitchen Pepper. All right, that's coming up next. Hey, 542 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna go around the NFL. We're sitting here at 543 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: Bebby Squares Center Court on Michael Bomas. That's Ray Roberts. 544 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: That's next right here on Hawk Slid. Time for us 545 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: to go around the NFL. Do it? And you know what, 546 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the NFL. Ray, and we're gonna 547 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: start with Ron Rivera and the commanders. Now we're talking 548 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: about quarterback play and why some are better than the others. 549 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: Here's what he has to say. Why do you think 550 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: the in the division or father had at this point quarterback? 551 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: The truth is that this is a quarterback driven lake 552 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: and if you look at the teams that have been 553 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: able to sustain success, they've been able to build it 554 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: around a specific quarterback. Man is he calling this quarterback out? Now? 555 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is over there. He had a decent year 556 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: at Indie the year prior, but now he's over there 557 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: with the commanders and he seems to be struggling a 558 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: little bit. If you are, I'm gonna put your your 559 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: your head coach cap on right now. Would you call 560 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: your quarterback out like that? And if you are doing that, 561 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Well? I think that's a tough 562 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: as a leader. Unless you're like really trying to send 563 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: a message. You may begin call out like you know, 564 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: the position group or something. The quarterback is tough because 565 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: it's ususally just that one dude, this plan. And so 566 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: he may have been trying to send a message, but 567 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: from what I've seen, and the way and the way 568 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: they played, I can't say that Carson Wentz is the 569 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: reason that they're losing. You know, their defense isn't well, 570 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: it's not playing up to par. The offense, you know, 571 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: other than McLaren, they don't have any any other receivers 572 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: that are kind of making plays. I think that's a 573 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: tough thing to do. When I played in Detroit, Bobby 574 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 1: Ross called us out, like called different dudes out by 575 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: name by name after a game, and it didn't go 576 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: over well. Sometimes when you have a conversation with a 577 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: player and be like, hey, like, you know, like I 578 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: made I don't know if you're gonna tell them you're 579 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: gonna say things, but you have a tough conversation, so 580 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: you kind of anticipate they might say something about the 581 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: quarterback player, the defensive line play or whatever. But when 582 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: it just kind of comes out like that, that's a 583 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: tough one. That's a tough one to take that could. 584 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: I know, he apologized or he kind of backpedaled a 585 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: little bit on it, but that's gonna be a tough 586 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: one for Carson wants to overcome. I think that's tough. 587 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: And right now it's twelve to seven, the commanders are Rev. 588 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 1: Carson wentz Is twelve or twenty two ninety nine yards, 589 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no interceptions. Buddy also has three sacks. So 590 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: now let's move on to Davante Adams. If you saw 591 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: the video, Diy Adams here, raise your hen All right, 592 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: so we got some people who know what's going on. 593 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Davante Adams. Tough game for the Raiders. I could break 594 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: down the play and what happened at the end of 595 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: the game more specifically, but I'm not going to do that. 596 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: In the end of the day, he ran into Hunter 597 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: Renfro or Hunter Renfro ran into him and they didn't 598 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: complete the pass. He's walking into the tunnel, there is 599 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: a photographer that crosses his face. He pushes him down 600 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: on the ground. And now that guy is suing. That 601 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: young man is suing. I should say he's a college student. Um, 602 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: what's your assessment of that whole situation? I think give 603 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: you what I think. First. I think that one, I 604 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: understand the emotion behind the moment and knowing is perfect, 605 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: but he didn't deserve to get pushed. But I also 606 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: think the guy that got pushed is okay. What are 607 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: your thoughts on man? Yeah, I don't know. It's a 608 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: It's a tough one, man, because both you know that 609 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: guy's you know, doing his job too, and you know, 610 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: maybe he's a rookie to the stadium and doesn't know 611 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: to you know, just stay out of the path of 612 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: the players. And then I think a guy like Davante 613 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Adams or any guy that's running off the field, you 614 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: gotta be able to control your emotions a little bit, 615 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: like I was a dude that after a bad game. 616 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean I've had to. I've taken a taxi home 617 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: before and just told my wife just go home because 618 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: because I get in the car and you ask me 619 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: a crazy question, I might jump out the cars. I 620 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: don't because I just so just upset. But uh, and 621 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: so you gotta be able to control that. Now, the 622 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: fouling the you know, a assault charge and stuff. Uh, 623 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: that's a little far, you know, I think you know, 624 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams tried to apologize right away. Uh, and then 625 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: and then the guy fouled charges. But that's kind of 626 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: the culture of our country now, you know, everyone's trying 627 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: to either counsel somebody or get paid off someone and 628 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: something like that. So it's unfortunate that it happened, but 629 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that it needed to elevate to the 630 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: point that he was a charge with any kind of sault. Yeah, 631 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, and um, it makes sense because, like you said, 632 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: the world we live in right now, like people are 633 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna look for an edge whenever they can get it. 634 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: So all right, and now let's let's move on to 635 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Matt rule is gone. He's had what 636 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: several years to try to get it them. You bring 637 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: over Baker Mayfield, He's not getting it them. It's unfortunate 638 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: because a coach is fired because the quarterback I guess 639 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: that he wanted isn't doing what he's supposed to do. 640 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: But it makes sense. The coach is always the first 641 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: one to go. But on the flip side, he's walking 642 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: away with forty million. He might have set in that 643 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: office and been like, oh man, this is unfortunate. I apologize, 644 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: but he walks out that door and he's taking forty 645 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: mil in his back pocket. Well, I'm originally from North Carolina, 646 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: and so I grew up in Nashville, North Carolina, and 647 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: so I kind of try to watch that team and 648 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: I know what the what the environment is like around 649 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: that team, and he came in, Matt Rule came in 650 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: and says offensive, dude, and the offense just has not 651 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: done anything since he's been there. And so I think 652 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is probably just the last straw on the 653 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: pile that made everything happen. And I'll be honest with you, 654 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: I was a Baker Mayfield fan, like the dude that 655 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: figured it out on every level, and I figured it 656 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: would take him a little bit, but he'd figured out 657 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: on this level. He just just hasn't done it. He's 658 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: just not that dude. And so then that was just 659 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: the I guess that distraw that broke to the Camel's back, 660 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, is that because Ben back there, Like I 661 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: went back there even when at the end of um 662 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: of shoot, what's the quarterback? You used to be there? 663 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, No where, Carolin am cam Newton. Sorry, I 664 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know how I forgot that went back there and 665 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't even playing, and and that dude. People can 666 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: say what they want to say about him, but he 667 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: had galvanized that whole region, so parts of North Tina, 668 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: parts of South Carolina, and when you go back there, 669 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: now US it's just so much. It's like the little 670 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown character that has a cloud walking over him. 671 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: That's how the Panthers organization feels right now. It does 672 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: feel that way. What's unfortunates who as they have one 673 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: of the most versatile players in the game on that 674 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: roster and when he's healthy. Right, and we all know 675 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: the running back position, it ain't for long while. If 676 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: you are a an elite running back, you got maybe 677 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: five six years in this league. The best ones go 678 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: balt eight to ten years. It's hard to see. So 679 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about these records in the NFL. Man, I 680 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: look at the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know what's the thing. 681 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: They barely be there is on the Cardinals last week, 682 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: but they are undefeated. When you look at that team, 683 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: I see Jalen Hurts, I see A J. Brown, I 684 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: see DeVante Smith, I see Miles Sanders. I look at 685 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: this team and I say, all right, this is a 686 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: complete team. Defensively their top five, offensively their top five. 687 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: They cause a lot of turnovers. What are your thoughts 688 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: on the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, the thing to me, I 689 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: think if you just look at their rosters, probably one 690 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: of the better rostership from a personnels point of view 691 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: an entire league. And I think they played very good, 692 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: complimentary football. The defense has been good for years and 693 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: it's just been a while for the offense to catch up. 694 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: And then Jalen Hurts was always like, man, is he 695 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: gonna be that missing piece? Is he gonna be able 696 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: to elevate his game to a place that can compliment 697 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: those other pieces that you just named on offense? And 698 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 1: to I don't know, maybe to a lot of people's surprise, 699 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: but maybe not his just because he's kind of a 700 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: dude that kind of gets in and grinds and does 701 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: what he has to do. I think they're a very 702 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 1: solid football team. Obviously not gonna go undefeated or whatever, 703 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: but I think they're a team to be content to 704 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: contend with. Yeah, they may have squeaked one by on Arizona, 705 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: but man, that happens. You're not gonna beat everybody about 706 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: fourteen points. And but the thing that I like is 707 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: their foundation is firm. Right. They have a good offensive 708 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: line to have a good front seven. They can get 709 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: after the quarterback with just four dudes, so then they 710 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: can play more guys in coverage and Slay is a 711 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: very good man to man cover guy. So I think 712 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: it's a very solid team. Now what are they what 713 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: I picked him to win the Super Bowl? I don't know, 714 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: but I think they can get They can make it 715 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: really interesting down the stretch. What's crazy about the NFC East. 716 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: You got Philly five and Old Cowboys four and one, 717 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: the Giants four and one, and then you got the 718 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Commanders at one and four. That's the most suspect division 719 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: and I've ever seen with teams that are doing well, 720 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: you're still waiting on to see if Dak Prescott comes back. 721 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: You're stay waiting on to see if Danny Dimes continues 722 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: this thing over there with the Giants. But let's go 723 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: over to the NFC West. This is an interesting division 724 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: in itself. Everyone's two and three rams Cardinal Seahawks except 725 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: for the forty nine is with the best defense in 726 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: the league. They're at three and two. It's bad as 727 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: this defense has played for the Seattle Seahawks. They are 728 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: still in the mix. They gonna win this weekend. They 729 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: can bump up to number two in the NFC West. Yeah, 730 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: you know when you when you start in NCUBA basketball 731 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: and and the tournament starts and they go like, oh man, 732 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: this is this one team coming into the tournament nobody 733 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: wants to play. Yeah, I think if Seattle's defense even 734 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: improves four or five spots from where they are, they 735 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: become that team because no one expected that out of him. 736 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: No one expected this offense to work the way it 737 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: has worked, with a like a career backup basically and 738 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Gino Smith, two rookie Towns underside center, you know, running 739 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: back that they're coming into the season that had maybe 740 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: just shown it, you know, shown himself for the last 741 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: five games last year. All this new defensive players and 742 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: this personnel and change. If the defense can improve their 743 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: spot four or five spots, they become one of those 744 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: teams that you do not want to play. And even 745 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: if even if they're not any position to get to 746 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs, if you're a playoff team that needs that win, 747 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough out spoiler. Absolutely, That's that's 748 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: what this team is right now. And I look at 749 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: this division and it makes sense that the Niners are 750 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: up top because they have the best defense. You look 751 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: at the Los Angeles Rams, Stafford is gonna turn the 752 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: ball over if you put any type of pressure on them. 753 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna get out of the 754 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Then you look at the Seahawks, You're like, Okay, 755 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: if you get into a shootout, you have a chance 756 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: to win. When I look at this division, it's the 757 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: most up in the air that I feel like it's 758 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: been in a long time, because going into the season, 759 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, all right, forty nineties, all right, the Rams, 760 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: But it's still off of grass right now, Ray, Yeah, 761 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: it is. And I have a feeling that the forty 762 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: nine ers were kind of raised to the top the Rams, 763 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: like they're just in their offense is just in this array. 764 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: The offensive line isn't very good, and Stafford is throwing 765 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: the ball all over the place and getting sacked, and 766 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: so I'm not really sure they're gonna come out of that. 767 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: But there's something about the forty nine ers that make 768 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: me feel like they're gonna kind of find their balance 769 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: and then kind of rise to the top, and then 770 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: the Sea Offs will have a chance if the defense 771 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: is better to kind of have that rivalry going again 772 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: for the top of the division. You know, football is 773 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: all about balance. Life, It's all about balance. It's all 774 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: about balance. Okay, when we retire, we're gonna talk to 775 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: Ken Walker right here in person. That's next right here 776 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: on Hawks Lit. I got my guy Ray Roberts. You know, 777 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: he got some beautiful fans right here in front of us. 778 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: Right now. We're joined by K nine. That's what they 779 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: call you, K nine, K Doug. Let's go baby. This 780 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: guy had a sixty nine yard touchdown last week. More touchdown. 781 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 1: It was beautiful and you know what I thought, Man, 782 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm watching you do that, and I go, man, this 783 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: first touch for Michigan State was seventy you know, he 784 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: missed it. He missed it by by one yard, and 785 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: it sounds like um Gino went up to the line 786 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and kind of audible into that thing when 787 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: you hear the audible and you know you're getting the rock. 788 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: What are you thinking? Um? Pretty much as lock in. 789 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: You know, I know I got to read my keys, um. 790 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: But with that touchdown, you know, my offensive line and 791 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: the wide receiver has made it much easier for me. 792 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you see the cutback, it's a big 793 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: hole right there. So those guys work hard, and I 794 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: feel like they need a lot of the credit for 795 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: that too. The show. He sometimes a lot of a 796 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: lot of guys or when you hear running back say 797 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: I have to read my keys, like and so as 798 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: a casual fan, you're like, well, what are they reading 799 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: the offensive line, the defensive line, the linebackers, So give 800 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: us just an example of what those keys are, right, So, 801 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: um with the mid zone, that was the play we 802 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: ran u. You know, we read from the m man 803 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage. He got a lot that 804 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: goes into it. So like your footwork, it matters. And 805 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: then so like with that, you read the defensive and 806 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 1: so from him, then you go to sea be gay 807 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: and a gap. So it's like a whole process you 808 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: got to go through. And that's just one run. So 809 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: like you got a lot of different runs with different reads. 810 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: There's nothing like a zone. Man. I played running back 811 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: a little bit in high school. It's more of a receiver. 812 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: But the zone allows you to kind of do your thing. 813 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: So now there's you were going to be the starter 814 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: back there at RB get a Blukes got Charles Cross. 815 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: Y'all are like a text the thread talking about a 816 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: second over. Let's go RICKI is doing a thing Nahum, 817 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: those guys have done great, you know since week one, 818 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, even in camp. You know, those guys have 819 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: been doing great, and you know they work real hard 820 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: in practice and now they compete. So I love being 821 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: able to see those guys work as hard as they have, 822 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: but also you know, be rookies, so it's like cool 823 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, So what what is it that you 824 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: are either have learned or you are you're learning about 825 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: being first of all, an NFL player and it's secondly 826 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: been a running back in the NFL. Right, so first 827 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: off with that man a pro like in the league. 828 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: It's like that's what I had to learn this be 829 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: a pro. You know, so I had to learn to 830 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: take care of my body more, eat better, you know, 831 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: eating hard, I mean eating better. It's like the hardest part. 832 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: But like you know, you got to learn how to 833 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: eat better. You know, Sleeping that was pretty hard too, 834 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: because like I love playing a game, so like I 835 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: used to always be up there on the game. Like 836 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: after I got a routine, and it's like really getting 837 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: a routine and take care of your body. So like 838 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: once I got the routine, it became much more easier 839 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: for me. And what was the second question, what as 840 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: a as a running back? What have you learned? Yeah, 841 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: just be more precise. You know, I can't like because 842 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: it holds close up much faster too. You know, the 843 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: speed of the game change a little bit because a 844 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: little faster. So um, pretty much being more more precise 845 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: and also knowing that these defenders are super smart. Broy. 846 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're talking about eating better and sleeping better 847 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: because my first maybe month in the league got a 848 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: like crap and I did not sleep at all. Think 849 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm on my my college, my college tip, and I 850 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: used to stay up playing two K cod and Tiger 851 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: Woods golf. So what are your games? What do you? 852 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: I play so many games it don't make sense. Like 853 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: so I played two K Mad and Call of Duty, 854 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: but I also played different games like a lot of 855 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: people don't know about. It's like Elden Ring. You got 856 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: Ghost of Sushima, Like it's a lot of Samurai games 857 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: or a lot of games like it's like adventure games 858 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: like world you call them open open world like type 859 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: of play. Yet all right, well, y'all can have all 860 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: the video games. I was offensive linement, so I got 861 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: to eat a lot. So if I was up late. 862 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: I was up late eating. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 863 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: So when you when you look at the Seattle Seahawks 864 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: offense and Rashaw Penny is out. You know Rashaw, you 865 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: guys kind of run similar, but he's a bigger body 866 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: type dude. So what is it that what is the 867 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: dynamic that you're bringing to the to the offense that 868 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: that not made it better than Penny, but just different 869 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: than right. Yeah, I feel like I'm more of a shifty, 870 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: shifty your back then Penny, you know. But he's a 871 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: great like I'm not. So yeah, yeah, a great back bro. 872 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: And I love having him with me, But I feel 873 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: like our differences, uh, the shifting shiftiness. With me, he's 874 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: like more of a downhill runner and big guy. He can, 875 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: you know, truck people. But I feel like I'm more 876 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: of a shifty runner than Penny is. So I remember 877 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: seeing your eight yard run against the forty nine ers 878 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: and I saw something. I'm like, Okay, I see what 879 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: he's doing. And then i see the Jets suite against 880 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and I'm like, all right, this slowing 881 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: down for him, like he's learning I'm gonna get wide. 882 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna getting north, north and south every week? Do 883 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you're seeing the defensive bit more slowing 884 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: down for you? Like, how do you feel when you 885 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: when you get the rocker? Yeah, definitely. You know when 886 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: even when I first came here for my favorite first 887 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: run in practice and we had pads on and like 888 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: it was a duel and I ran to like the 889 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: perfect hole and I second guessed myself and stopped. So 890 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: like it was a lot of thinking like going on 891 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: when I first got here. But like as the time 892 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: goes on, especially now, like during week to week, I 893 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: feel like I get much better, you know, even learning 894 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: from Penny. He used to tell me about like like 895 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: I said, be more precise, Like tell me be more 896 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: precise about my keys and hitting the hole and never 897 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: second guess myself. So like just having guys like him, 898 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: and you know we got home and other older guys 899 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: in the room, that's a big help for me. Well, 900 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like flex for myself right here. X So 901 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: bump Us and myself and Paul Mori were hosting a 902 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: draft party for the Seahawks and the your pick came 903 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: up and we're sitting in this green room. If you 904 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: want to call it that, and I said, man, they're 905 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: drafting Kenneth Walker right here. And both of these guys 906 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 1: were like, oh, no, I think they're gonna go receiver 907 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: or I don't know, it's defensive back because I'm like, nah, 908 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: says defense of them. Yeah. I was like, no, this 909 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: dude is like a Pete Carroll type of dude. Man, 910 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: I promise you this is where they're going. So I'm 911 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: excited that you got here because I called the picks. Uh. 912 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: And then but then secondly, there's a story about even 913 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,919 Speaker 1: them trying to get in touch with you during the draft. 914 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: Can you walk us through that? Yeah. So I always 915 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: have my phone on Do Not a Stair, Like I 916 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: always have it on the not staff. So the day 917 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: of the draft, even the first night and the second night, 918 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 1: like like the night I got drafted. Um, we worked 919 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: on like my agent was there, my mom, my dad, 920 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: Like I turned off Do Not a Stair, but I 921 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: turned my phone up and everything. Then I'm like getting 922 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: them to call me to make sure it's working. So 923 00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: they called me like five or six times, and they 924 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: worked every time. So the time come like for me 925 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: to get drafted, and I'm like checking my phone keep 926 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: checking it. Then I check it again, it's like five 927 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: miss calls. I'm like, bro, what I've been sitting here 928 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: the whole time. I had it on a charge and everything. 929 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: So then I'm calling back and then it's like going 930 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: straight to the voicemail, going straight to voicemail. And then 931 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 1: I call him again and I guess the front desk 932 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: pickup and then they like, um, yeah, who Like they 933 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: asked me, yeah, like, they asked me who I am? 934 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: And I'm like, UM, can't walk you just calling me 935 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like I didn't know who it was. 936 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm ken't walking this. You just called me. 937 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: She knew who you were? No, they didn't know. They 938 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: was like, uh no, we don't know who you are. 939 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: If we can't take you to the to the um, 940 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: I guess they couldn't flip like the call or whatever. 941 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: So I'm like, dang, I gotta hang up again. Try 942 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: to call back. Same thing happened. So finally the call 943 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: goes through and I'm able to answer, and then that's 944 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: when I got on the phone him. So it was 945 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: like a whole little it was crazy. So what are 946 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: you feeling in that moment? Are you thinking, okay, I'm 947 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: about hold on first, I'll let me Rhyn. Did you 948 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: look at the area code and say, okay, this is 949 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: probably a two h six area code that that popped up. Yeah. Yeah, 950 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: So I I didn't even pisa no, like I'm trying 951 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: to just he was like five, none of that, Like 952 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: I see my myself miscalls. I'm like, well, I gotta 953 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: call back. But it was a complete surprise when you 954 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: heard okay Seattle seas Yeah, super like because you know 955 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: what to come out. You talk to all these different teams, right, 956 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: So I talked to Seattle. Obviously, I talked to him 957 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: and then we had a zoom call. But that was it, 958 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: like I never visited or anything. And then um after that, 959 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: like we never talked and then like being able to 960 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: get a call from them. It was like crazy because 961 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: I was so shocked and surprise, what's up? That's cool. 962 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: So you said that you that you and the big rookies, 963 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: the big tackles that you know, you guys like Michael 964 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: saying setting it up, all rookies are going to be 965 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: starters h this week. But what what have you seen 966 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: in them? You talked about a little bit, but what 967 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: have you seen in them that has allowed them to 968 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: be to have the success they've had, especially Big eight. Yeah, 969 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: I believe it's their confidence, Bro, the way they approached 970 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: the game. You know, they come in working hard every day, 971 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: not just on the field but also in the you 972 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: know when we in the meetings and everything always locked in. 973 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: So like, I believe their confidence is a big thing. 974 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: And I talked to him all the time and they 975 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: don't talk much, but like they're real confident, but they're 976 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: real cool too, so I feel like, uh, I don't know, 977 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: they're just making a great impact on the team. Absolutely. 978 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: Last one we got for you, what was that moment, 979 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 1: like with the family, sharing that moment, knowing that you've 980 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: worked so hard to get here since you were a 981 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: little kid. I'm sure this was a dream of yours 982 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: and to share that with them and then to have 983 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: a sixty nine yard touchdown this year, what's that moment? Yeah, 984 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: it's a blessing for real, you know, like you said, 985 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: like since the kid you grew up and he dream 986 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: of those moments. Like even in high school college I 987 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: used to always like tell my close teammates something like, Bro, 988 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: I won't know what to do if like I make 989 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: it to the league, It's just crazy. And then like 990 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: after the run and scoring, it was like a dream 991 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: of me. And it was so surreal because it was 992 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: like my first NFL touchdown. Like, bro, that's did you 993 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: playing that celebration? Dropped down to your knees and fresh, 994 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: That's like been a thing that I've always done, you know, 995 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: always give you know, Gloria guy. So like, um, I'm 996 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: just thankful to being a position I am in today. 997 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: All Right, y'all give it up one time for Ken 998 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: Walking a third thank you? All Right. When we return, 999 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna go inside the film where we're gonna break down. 1000 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: Gino Smith touchdown to Tyler Locket, Ken Walker sixty nine 1001 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: yard touchdown. Awesome. Taysom Hill breaks off at six yard 1002 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: touchdown that's coming up next right here on Hawks lot. 1003 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: All right, So now we're gonna go into the film room, 1004 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: yes sir, and break this thing down. The first player 1005 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna break down, Gino Smith finds Tyler Lockett fourth 1006 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: seventy excuse me, thirty five yard touchdown or so second 1007 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: down in six fourteen seconds to play here in a 1008 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: half again slots the both sides. Smith from the shotgun 1009 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: Dallas beside him in the backfield. The Saints the three 1010 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: down line and they only rush three. Gino steps up 1011 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: in the pocket, gonna let it fly down the middle, 1012 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: got locking touchdown, Shayhawks, Are you kidding me? Holy catfish? 1013 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: Want to perfect throw behind the deepot two safeties deep 1014 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: order box deep, and gen Smith lays a perfect pass 1015 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: under the crossbar to Tyler Lockett for six. What a player. 1016 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: Here's the thing right here. Whenever you hear Steve very 1017 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: will say, holy catfish, you know something just went down. 1018 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: He said, Holy catfish, and I'm gonna let you know 1019 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: what went down. So here's the four man. You get 1020 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: a two by two set means two receivers to the right, 1021 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: two receivers to the left. Tyler Lockett is the number 1022 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: one receiver. That means he's the furthest receiver to the outside, 1023 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 1: to the right of Geno Smith. And what he does 1024 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: he inside releases the corner. All right. Once he inside release, 1025 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: his focus is now on the safety. The corner who's 1026 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: trailing him says, look, I got help over the top, 1027 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: so I don't have to sprint, I don't have to 1028 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: run and stay on this guy's hip. I know that 1029 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: I have helped over the top with the safety. As 1030 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: soon as Tyler Locket gets inside and he has the 1031 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: corner beat, his attention is on the safety now. So 1032 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: what he does to widening him out he leans he 1033 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: no boom whence he nods that safety winds out to 1034 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: the right. It opens up the middle of the field. 1035 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: And what Gino Smith does, he drops a dime over 1036 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 1: the top. This is what Tyler Lockett does now, Folks, 1037 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 1: I wore number sixteen, not like him. If you warmed 1038 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: it up for I warmed it up, I said lately 1039 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: is way about six six seven years. Yeah, and you're 1040 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: gonna have this. It was coming, you know it was coming. 1041 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: But man, it's impressive impressives to see this guy continue 1042 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: to get open and move defenders the way he does 1043 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: righty Well, not only that, you know, uh, he does 1044 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: a very good job this year too, like just being 1045 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: a leader too. Like there's something about him I think 1046 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: being on the field that brings calm to the offense 1047 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: as well. So not only was he a great route 1048 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: runner there, but then also the concentration to catch the ball. 1049 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: And then if I would like to bring some attention 1050 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: back to the to the offensive line, because if in 1051 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: this formation, Gino is in the shotgun, so he's probably 1052 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: like five or six yards from the center, and then 1053 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: he drops back another five yards and then the pocket, 1054 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: which is what the quarterback sits in. So the tackles 1055 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: are responsible for the width of the pocket. The guards 1056 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: and the center are responsible for the depth of the pocket. 1057 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: So this pocket is so deep and it's so wide 1058 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: that Gino's able to step up about five or six 1059 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: yards to really put some mustard on this throw and 1060 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: then really get some touch on it. So it really 1061 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: does start, even though it ended with a beautiful dime, 1062 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: it starts with the big uglies up front. Bro, what 1063 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: position to heat play? Offensive line? It starts, it ends 1064 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: with the offensive line. Okay, this next play ken Walker's 1065 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: sixty nine yard touchdown Walker the single setback a tight 1066 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: slot on the right side is Estridge and Locket. Gino 1067 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: now walks over to talk to them, comes back to 1068 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: the work center, talks to Medcalf. Now goes under center 1069 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: on second down in short turns hands to Walker, got 1070 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: a little running room, brek three forty good fail. He 1071 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: is gonna go forty thirty twenty. Look at the rocky 1072 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: shuts down, Sayhawks, Jen Walker the third. He's been booping 1073 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: around in there all afternoon. Finally find a gap and 1074 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: he is gone sixty nine yards on a touchdown. Scamper 1075 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks have tied this up at thirty one apiece. 1076 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: Sixty nine yard touchdown from Ken Walker. I got the 1077 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: old line og up here. Break it down for me, 1078 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: Ray well A. It's a single back formation and h 1079 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: and it's gonna It's actually the play that we talked 1080 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: to him about. He was trying to explain while he's 1081 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: up here, but it's his own player. Split zone, a 1082 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: mid zone, you can call it to the left, So 1083 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: the play starts out to the left. He's reading that 1084 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: defensive end, so the defensive end is kind of up 1085 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: the field, but the soft spot is in the middle, 1086 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: over the guard and in the center, and so then 1087 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: he cuts it back to his right. And the cool 1088 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 1: thing about what creates big running plays, or two things. 1089 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: One is that you cut the defense, so you create 1090 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: a lane the defense. So if you are able to 1091 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: see this, there's a lane between Abe Lucas and then 1092 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: the tight end and the two receivers on the backside, 1093 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: and that is the backside lane that he found. And 1094 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: the cool thing about that is that Tyler Lockett actually 1095 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: his block is the key to this whole thing. He 1096 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: seals off. I think that that might even be a 1097 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: safety or linebacker there, which really allows him to kind 1098 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: of open up his stride and get into that sixty 1099 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown. So in order for the running game 1100 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: to work, it is a total team effort. The running 1101 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: back has to have the vision, the offensive line has 1102 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 1: to have the push, and then the receivers down field 1103 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: have to do their part when they're not catching the 1104 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: ball and at least get in the way of defenders. 1105 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,479 Speaker 1: And that's how the run ended up being a sixty 1106 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown. All right. So he showed the old 1107 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: lines some love when it came to that past play. 1108 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for showing the receivers from love when it 1109 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: comes to this lord, man, it doesn't work without it's 1110 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: all a team effort, man. And one of my favorite 1111 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: runs are the zone. Right. I love the zone because 1112 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: you got combo blocks. You reach here, get into the linebackers, 1113 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: receivers have to get in the way of that second 1114 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: level you get to that third level. We didn't mention 1115 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: d Eskridge getting just enough As a receiver, you just 1116 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: have to get just enough. Like he doesn't have to 1117 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: be a pancake block. It's not to dominate. You're just 1118 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: getting the way and let the running bag do his steam. 1119 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: This is a perfect example of everything coming together all right. 1120 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: This next way, we gotta Taysom Hill sixty yard touchdown. 1121 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: Still the game. Two tight ends in the game as well. 1122 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, he's gonna go left side and he's gonna 1123 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: pick up the first down and he's gonna go all 1124 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: the way for a touchdown. He is down inside the thirty. 1125 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: He's being chased willing can he catch him? Pulling, tries 1126 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 1: to knock up all out of his hands. Hill gets 1127 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: him for a touchdown. Oh, he giveth and he taketh away. 1128 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: The Seahawks have a huge run by Walker, and they 1129 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: turn right around and give up a big run to 1130 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, a sixty yarder as he goes off the 1131 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: left side, and the Seahawks are still having a tough 1132 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: time figuring out how to stop Taysom Hill. And now 1133 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna go for two. Was they have 1134 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: taken a five point thirty seven thirty two or another 1135 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: run played something who you saw here right, Well, the 1136 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: thing that I see here is that actually in this game, 1137 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: it happened twice when they when they ran to play 1138 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: like this, the side they were running to for the 1139 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks actually slammed it into the play, which 1140 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: then makes the corner shorter. Actually, and especially if you 1141 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: can't get back there to make to create some damage. 1142 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: And then uh, Jordan Brooks, uh if he this is 1143 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: when you say this game is a game of inches. 1144 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: There's a pulling or a leading fullback up into the hole. 1145 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: And if he puts his helmet on this guy's outside 1146 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: shoulder versus his inside shoulder, Yeah, he slows that down 1147 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: enough that probably Ryan Neil is gonna catch it from 1148 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: from the back side. He's gonna catch up the tasting 1149 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: hill from the back side, and then it'll put Quandre 1150 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: Diggs in a better position to come over top to 1151 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: kind of close that gap. Because when you're running to 1152 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: the outside, you're trying to turn everything back to the inside. 1153 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: And in this situation, Terek Woolin came up, tried to 1154 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: turn it back into Jordan Brooks, and then Jordan Brooks 1155 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: wasn't able to turn it back to the other back guys, 1156 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: and it created a big hole for Tason Hill to 1157 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 1: get on his horse and get to the end zone. 1158 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: Big Ray, you describe this thing beautifully, and all I 1159 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: see as you are describing this are just little missus. Yes, right, 1160 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: you don't get it on the right shoulder. Unfortunate call. 1161 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: You're slatting the other way. You got Quandre trying to 1162 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: fill a gap. He doesn't make a play. And I 1163 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: think that that's kind of in the Achilles Hill when 1164 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: it comes to this defense, is that you're almost there, right, 1165 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: It's not like you're so far off. What are you're 1166 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: doing is like, yeah, I can understand what's going on here, 1167 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: But technique wise, you have to be dang near perfect 1168 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: to eliminate these big plays absolutely. And and you know, 1169 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,399 Speaker 1: people will look at that play in that run and say, well, 1170 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: the defense sucks or the players suck, or you need 1171 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: new players or what have you. And really it's a 1172 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: matter of maybe six to twelve inches is what made 1173 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: the whole difference in that play. And so when we 1174 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: listen to ARTI earlier and he was talking about guys 1175 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: getting really comfortable in the defense and really understanding the 1176 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: defense and internalizing the defense, so that then they can 1177 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: just play free. They're not trying to think through their 1178 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: assignments and get and then you get to where you're 1179 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: going and maybe a little tentative or you're not sure, 1180 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: but when you're able to play free and internalize what 1181 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: you're doing, then you end up making the right moves 1182 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: with those six inches. You know it really, it really 1183 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: is a game of inches. And because I'm telling you, 1184 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: like if if he had taken if if Jordan Brooks 1185 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: had taken his left shoulder and went through the left 1186 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: shoulder of the poller, that ball would have bounced back inside. 1187 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: And that's where all the defensive the bad guys are. 1188 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: As we say, all the bad guys, it's all about inches. 1189 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 1: That is real. Okay. That was Geno Smith finding Tyler 1190 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: locking for a thirty five yard touchdown, Ken Walker sixty 1191 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown, and Taysom Hill breaks one off for sixty. 1192 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 1: When we return, it is time to talk. That talk. 1193 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: We'll talk about where Shod Penny to Reek Woolen and 1194 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: Bruce Irvin. That is next right here on hawk slide. 1195 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: Rad does want to point out that, um, that music 1196 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: that you just heard that is classic football, and he 1197 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 1: gets me going every time, man, like all the Monday 1198 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: night football across time. The music is I used to play. 1199 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: You know, you play pick up, get tackled, like everyone's 1200 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: just on the field and you just throw the football 1201 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: up ever catches kill the carres what we called it. 1202 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: What we called it pick up and get tackled. To anytime, 1203 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: anytime I would, I know, yeah, I ain't going in 1204 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: two not going there, guys, but I would. When I 1205 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: would pick the football up, that music would play in 1206 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: my head. And then dude, nobody could tackle me. Nobody, nobody. 1207 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, yo, big you know what ain't 1208 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: nobody tackling you? Well, just a little you know. I 1209 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: wasn't running back until eighth grade. He was also the 1210 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: biggest dude out there. I had skills, bump, what are 1211 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: you talking? You didn't have skills? Kicked that thing to 1212 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: the sideline. It was done gone. One of my shoes 1213 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: came off, and I felt like it was like turboy. 1214 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: It made me fast, so I would be like, hey, 1215 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: that shoe came off, They're not gonna get problem was 1216 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: at every time I score. My dad bought me a 1217 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: foot long hot dog. So then I ate myself. Let 1218 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: me put the weight on there and now you were 1219 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: the tenth pick on the offensive line. So thank you 1220 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: Papa Roberts for making who he is today. But let's 1221 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: talk about these these Arizona Cardinals. Man, there's such a 1222 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: volatile team. You're like, you don't know what you're gonna 1223 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: get from these guys. You got Kylin Murray, who is 1224 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: clearly one of the most talented quarterbacks in the league. 1225 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: Not one of the best quarterbacks, one of the most talented. 1226 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: And then you look at the running back situation. They 1227 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: have three running backs down last week, Greg, Right, So 1228 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: if there's anything that's looking in the seahawks favor is 1229 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: that the running back situation might be suspect because the 1230 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: Hawks are last in the NFL against the run. Yeah, 1231 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: and the thing that they can't do in this game 1232 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: is allow whoever they put in the backfield to beat them. 1233 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: They have to this is a game where they have 1234 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: to completely shut down the running game. And then you 1235 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: have to know that they're gonna have a handful of 1236 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: design runs for Kyler Murray, whereas his draw player what 1237 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: have you. Then he's gonna have his scrambles. So you 1238 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: can't allow him and and those running situations to to 1239 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: beat this defense, and then you can't allow him every 1240 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: time that he decides to scramble to keep the change moving. 1241 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: So you're gonna want him to do want him to 1242 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: shut down the run and then make him prove that 1243 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: he can throw the ball and beat you. If I 1244 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: think if you get to that place, I don't think 1245 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: I think they see. Also, I'm not gonna say it's 1246 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a Kate walk, but it'll be an easier 1247 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: game if you can get to those things done. Yeah, 1248 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: the the unscripted things are the things that worry me 1249 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: the most about the Arizona Cardinals because you can have 1250 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: the perfect defense for a smash concept, the perfect defense 1251 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: for a zone concept, but when that young man gets 1252 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: in the backfield and he passed the ball two or 1253 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: three times and he scrambles all across the yard, um, 1254 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: there's no plan for that. You just got to depend 1255 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: on your eyes and depend on guys getting to the football. 1256 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: So that's the X factor for me. Yeah, absolutely not. 1257 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,919 Speaker 1: You know what, James, I think James Connor maybe even 1258 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: down again this week, who was their leading rusher, and 1259 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: then Kyler Murrage a second, I think there's another running 1260 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: back that has one hundred and thirty six yards and 1261 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Kyler has one hundred and thirty five. So essentially he's 1262 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: their second leading rusher, so you can't allow him to 1263 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: be their leading rusher and throw the ball and effectively. 1264 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: So it's going to be important for the pass rusher 1265 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: to get after him, get some hits on him, get him, 1266 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: get his feet happy so he's not like looking down 1267 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: to feel a lot. And then and then the secondary 1268 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: I think play a little bit tighter, you know what 1269 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't other than Hollywood Brown, who has 1270 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: some speed, I don't think there's a they have a 1271 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: receiver that can just outrun you down the field. But 1272 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: so I think they can kind of squeeze the coverage 1273 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. They can make some tight, you know, 1274 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: precise throws, and I think the defense will have a 1275 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: chance at least. I don't want to say it's a 1276 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: get right game, but performed better than they have in 1277 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. And then offensively, I'm to see 1278 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: if the Hawks can continue to, like you say, at 1279 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: least be a threat to run the football right. You 1280 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: don't have to rush for two hundred yards, it'd be nice, right, 1281 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: You want to rush for two hundred yards. But if 1282 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: you can have three yard four yard games, break one 1283 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: for fifteen twenty yards, it makes that defense have to 1284 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: play the run, and then it allows Gino to do 1285 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: what he's been doing, which is play action toss the 1286 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: ball down the field in when the play action is working, 1287 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 1: that means the tight ends are heavily involved in this game. Yeah, 1288 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,919 Speaker 1: I think if they if they stay to their plan 1289 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,919 Speaker 1: man and like get targets to all the tight ends 1290 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: using the running backs. Obviously the receivers get them involved 1291 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: in the game. But I really do think if if 1292 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker can have somewhere between sixty two one hundred yards, 1293 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: I think the offense will be clicking because that means 1294 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: that Geno is probably gonna scramble for like another fifteen 1295 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: or twenty, and then DJ Dallas is probably gonna have 1296 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: another ten or twelve, and so that's gonna get your 1297 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: like to you know, over one hundred yards in the 1298 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: rushing game. And if that's happening, then that means that 1299 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: this offense has a chance to stay on schedule and 1300 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: and they can just still use all their play action. 1301 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 1: They can still use their short routes to the tight 1302 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: ends or in immediate routes to the tight ends, they 1303 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: can take the shots down the field to DK and Tyler, 1304 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: and then I think we'll see a lot of what 1305 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: we've seen the rest of the start of the year, 1306 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: and then we have to get the offense back to 1307 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: being efficient on third downs. There were one for eight, 1308 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: one for nine on third downs before last week. They 1309 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: were top three when it comes to third down efficiency, 1310 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: and we're not used to that. We used to seeing 1311 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: this office as being in the bottom three when it 1312 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: comes to third down. So I'd like to see that 1313 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: get going to and the thing that hurt them last 1314 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 1: week with the penalties like is and it's hard to 1315 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: convert you know, third and double digits, you know, and 1316 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: getting those penalties on second down. So a lot of 1317 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: people think like the third down efficiency is the piece 1318 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: that you have to win, but you really have to 1319 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: win first down because first down sets the tone for 1320 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the for the next two downs. So you can't have 1321 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: negative plays on first down, you can't have penalties on 1322 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: second down and then put you in those third and 1323 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: long situations you because then in that situation, the defense 1324 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: is that the advantage with the calls they can make 1325 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: when you get to second and five or third and 1326 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: four and short, then you have your whole playbook at 1327 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: your disposal to the call plays. Otherwise it's third and ten, 1328 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: third and eleven, third and twenty. Just hard to find 1329 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 1: calls for that. And so I think they found themselves 1330 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: in that situation too much last last week, and so 1331 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: this week, hopefully those penalties cut down. They're most successful 1332 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: on first down, give them a better chance to be 1333 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 1: successful on third All right, that all sounds good. Hey, 1334 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: colabatta one time from my guy Ray Robbers joining us 1335 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: on Thursday. All right, Hey, special things said Darren Urban 1336 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: already burns ken Walker for joining the show are on 1337 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: board operator Rady Robing, onside engineer Brenner Rogers, production as 1338 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 1: sent in the Shan kind of Putty Mister one forty five, 1339 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: and our executive producer Nasaid Choby. The Seahawks Freak Show 1340 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: was live this Sunday at ten am. Until next time. 1341 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Michael Pumps with Ray robertson. We'll see 1342 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 1: you next week right here on Hawkslide