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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily's Top twenty five players of the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling podcast studio alongside one of my favorite people

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Speaker 1: to talk ball with, the man Steve Weiss, who has

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Speaker 1: been covering this league NonStop for the last couple of decades,

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Speaker 1: mostly here at NFL Network. Are you ready to count

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Speaker 1: down from numbers twenty to number sixteen on this list?

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Speaker 2: I am. This is such an amazing concept.

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Speaker 3: You know when you talk about like impactful players whatever

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Speaker 3: in this list you came up with stylistically, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the fact you pulled this off, I think is CRAMPEDO.

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Speaker 1: Don't get ahead of it ourselves here, we got to

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Speaker 1: make it great. But no, we had a great first

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Speaker 1: episode with Mina Kimes. I'm looking forward to talking these

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Speaker 1: five players.

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Speaker 4: Yay, let's get going.

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Speaker 2: Number twenty Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 4: Burrow to throat.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Garrett.

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Speaker 4: There it is is Miles Garrett. Welcome to the one

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Speaker 4: hundred club.

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Speaker 5: He takes down Joe Burrow one hundred career sacks for

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Speaker 5: the future Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, I wanted to know make a

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Speaker 6: known that and I'm the guy I'm number one, no

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Speaker 6: as defender, and that was a statement out I was

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Speaker 6: intended to make.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm making He's.

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Speaker 5: Got to try it from sixty, it's blocked, ball loose

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Speaker 5: fight fotenzel Ward picks up ward running across the Indianapolis thirty.

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Speaker 3: That was Miles Garrett that blocked that field goal.

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Speaker 2: Jumps right over.

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Speaker 5: He jumped right over the center man. He went superman,

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Speaker 3: They do uniquely that maybe other teams don't come in that.

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Speaker 4: That maybe why you all truggle the way you'll have.

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Speaker 4: They have Miles Garrett. That's different from from everybody else.

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Speaker 5: Under pressure from Miles, ball out, fight for to the

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Speaker 5: end zone, Miles got home again. Who's got it? Browns

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett is single handedly taking.

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Speaker 2: Over this game.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett number twenty on the list. You heard the

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Speaker 1: voices of many people there, but some of our friends,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claybon with a great voiceover, of course, but also

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Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliano. You heard Joe Burrow talking about what's the

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Speaker 1: difference between facing them and other teams. Yeah, here's the difference.

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Speaker 1: It's Miles freaking Garrett. I'll get into all the accomplishments

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Speaker 1: of why he is on this list. You might notice

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Speaker 1: if you're listening, the back end of the list is

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Speaker 1: heavily weighted towards some of these current players. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: get different soon, But I just realized Garrett already has

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Speaker 1: the resume of an all time great.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, there's so many different ways we

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Speaker 3: can go here. First off, the fact that he has

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Speaker 3: one hundred and two sacks in eight seasons. I don't

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Speaker 3: think people understand how heart it is to get a sack,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're like the guy on the defense when

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Speaker 3: people are double teaming you. You saw some chips on

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Speaker 3: Plus he's six four to two seventy five, right, he's

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Speaker 3: built like a sleek defensive tackle. By comparison, TJ. Watt

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Speaker 3: But the way the Cleveland also, especially Jim Schwartz, has

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Speaker 3: That's helped him because he's got sixty sacks past four years.

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Speaker 2: But here's the biggest part, which shows his dominance.

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Speaker 3: Right, like a he does not play on a team

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Speaker 2: His team is usually trailing.

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Speaker 3: He's had two winning seasons and played on an zero

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Speaker 2: Is usually trailing. So his opportunities to get to the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think of the players that are going to

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Speaker 1: I think you have to be that much better, not

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Speaker 1: and that number is still growing. Miles Garrett, I think,

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Speaker 4: But he and TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt, who we also hit in the first show with me,

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Speaker 1: So I felt like it would not be doing a

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I mean you can't do that. This is

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Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Fame type guy. Look, seven straight

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Speaker 3: seasons with double digit sack on the teams he's played on.

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Speaker 3: Remember and oh to sixteen team. That is insane. He's

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Speaker 3: very good against the run. You saw him block that

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Speaker 3: It is so so hard. Like in Collins, I played

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Speaker 3: And think about quarterback dropping back four hundred times a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's also you know, he racks it up

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Speaker 1: which are just outrageous. He's the first ever player, by

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Speaker 1: So it's the consistency. I love what you said about

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Speaker 1: a no brainer for one overall pick because you look

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Speaker 1: at him and yes, all these players on this list

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Speaker 4: And I do think of Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's one one towards the very very top of

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Speaker 1: that where if like you are creating a football player

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Speaker 1: kind of a ridiculous person to be next to. You've

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Speaker 1: been around him. I've been around Okay, let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: First, of his arms are like thirty inches big.

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Speaker 3: When we see the videos of him, he's got like

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Speaker 4: Well, that's him jumping over the center.

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Speaker 1: So that field goal block that he had a couple

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Speaker 3: But he's funny when you talk about him coming out,

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Speaker 3: Don Blackman, the former Patriots linebacker, long NFL coach, father

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Speaker 3: he called me one day he was just not Texas

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Speaker 3: a and them scouting sex. To you, this guy is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard from several other people.

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Speaker 3: longtime great coach himself. The way he raved about Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 3: You're like, no way, he's going to live up to

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Speaker 2: He's that great.

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Speaker 1: He's the youngest player to get to one hundred sacks.

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Speaker 1: He's been on PFF's first team All Pro five straight years.

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Speaker 1: And I actually find PFF's rankings interesting, if only because

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Speaker 1: just in theory on their numbers, and yet the numbers

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Speaker 1: even have him first each and every season. That quote

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Speaker 1: we heard from Garrett was from a game this last season,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think of twenty twenty four as Garrett's

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Speaker 4: But that was a game against this Steelers in TJ.

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Speaker 1: to be known as the best EDG dresher. So he

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Speaker 1: he's had to get up, he's gotten up for him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine if he played on a team like

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Speaker 2: The numbers would just when you talk when you look

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Speaker 3: like a what if. And you have to think about

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Speaker 3: a former Cleveland Brown and Joe Thomas played eleven seasons,

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Speaker 2: He's only been to the playoffs twice.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Well, Joe Thomas has a chance to be

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Speaker 1: any spoilers early, but the I will say have over

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Speaker 1: oh to sixteen for listeners who might not be aware. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was Garrett's rookie season.

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Speaker 2: It's only year he didn't have double digit sack.

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Speaker 1: But also like, what a welcome to the NFL moment,

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Speaker 1: Poor Garrett, Poor Deshaun Kaiser going out there, you know,

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Speaker 4: Great for no one to ever bring that up.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. That's what I heard. Steve

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Speaker 2: Made a lot of money from the Cleveland Browns as well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he did not take a discount on that salary.

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Speaker 3: I always like to watch his film because he's been

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Speaker 4: He's always seems like he's in a right position. If

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Speaker 5: Anybody doubted a nickel of Zach Martin, He's worth the same.

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Speaker 7: He's costantly kicking, kicking ass and that's just what he does.

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Speaker 6: Long time, knows all the tricks of the trade, savvy

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Speaker 1: Football is such an amazing sport because we can go

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Speaker 3: I mean, when I saw his name on there, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have a committee, if you

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Speaker 4: I did it by myself.

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Speaker 3: A stroke of genius, a guard who could be a

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Speaker 3: and maybe Zach ends up doing that, you know, after

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Speaker 3: him with Johnny Manziel, right, because remember in that draft

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Speaker 3: They okay, they're taking Johnny Manziel, Johnny football right here,

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Speaker 2: You're spinning it then the floor drops out.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was like, what Zach Martin, when they could have

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Speaker 3: Johnny had something to do with that, but what a

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so glad you brought that up because I

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Speaker 1: give Jerry Jones credit, right, Okay, they did take Zach Martin.

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Speaker 1: He literally used the word relevance for the next decade. Christ,

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the first team All pros nine in

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Speaker 4: So that's hard to disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: They have seven first downs on that drive. Oh that's

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Speaker 2: Like this dude.

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Speaker 1: You have to admit though he's the only interior offensive

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Speaker 2: Good for you.

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Speaker 1: first Team All pros, was all the All two thousands.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of Hall of Famers are getting loftof. Alan Fanica,

443
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: Jarrey Evans are also not on this list, and neither

444
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: is Jason Kelcey. Different position, but that was a tough

445
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: one too, So I wanted Martin is kind of representing

446
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Speaker 1: them all.

447
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Speaker 2: Man, that's a big flag. He's planning right here.

448
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 4: By you, I mean.

449
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: The Jason Kelce one too, because he has six first

450
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: team All pros. But just the way people talked about him,

451
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: there's a guy Mike Gettings who runs a pro scouting

452
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: service called pro Scout that the NFL uses he was

453
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Speaker 1: the scout I was referring to.

454
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Speaker 4: That said.

455
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Speaker 1: The only gap he thought in his entire career that

456
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Speaker 1: was similar at another position was how they used to

457
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Speaker 1: talk about Dwight Stevenson at center back in the day,

458
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Speaker 1: that he would put Zack Martin right there with the

459
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Speaker 1: greatest guards of all time. So Zach Martin, number nineteen.

460
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to our next guy on the list.

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Speaker 3: Number eighteen, Julius Peppers moving away off the Pauls cost to.

462
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Speaker 7: Julius Peppers headed so long Peppers, Oh.

463
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Speaker 4: Man, oh man, you know who hit him? It was

464
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Speaker 4: Fields number fifty eight came in and just runch, Michael Vick.

465
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Speaker 8: There isn't a man on this field that's gonna catch

466
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Speaker 8: Julius Peppers when wat's his look at the athletic ability

467
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 8: to him, he just one.

468
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Speaker 4: Hands the ball and goodbye. It's gonna give me ro respecto.

469
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it how you.

470
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Speaker 7: Want it.

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Speaker 9: He has two distinct sides to his personality. There's Julius

472
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Speaker 9: laid back, chill, nonchalant, and then there's the football player

473
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Speaker 9: they call Pip explosive, disrupted, relentless.

474
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Speaker 1: We can get into so much with Julius Peppers, but

475
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Speaker 1: let's start with the first play that we heard there.

476
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Speaker 1: That was Mike Patrick and Paul McGuire, both great broadcasters

477
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Speaker 1: with ESPN rest in Peace. Mike Patrick recently passed away,

478
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Speaker 1: and that interception return where Peppers, you know, picks it

479
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: up one handed and then runs at that size for

480
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: the touchdown, to me, exemplifies just how he was an

481
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: athlete that is just rare in every possible way.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I actually cover that game. When I

483
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: was covering that, like wow, in the tackle that he beat,

484
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: Todd Weiner was like a really good player. He was

485
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Speaker 3: Michael Vick's blindside tackle. And it's funny two years ago,

486
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Speaker 3: you know, I did the door Knocks the Hall of

487
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: Fame crew, and two years ago and Bruce Smith was

488
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Speaker 3: knocking on his door.

489
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Speaker 2: We're going through the whole process.

490
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Speaker 3: I kept saying to myself, like, man, you know, Julius

491
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Speaker 3: Peppers is a first ballot Hall of Famer, And then

492
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Speaker 3: you don't realize he's got the fourth most sacks of

493
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Speaker 3: all time, right, one hundred and fifty nine and a half,

494
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Speaker 3: because what you just mentioned, everyone thinks of Julie Peppers

495
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: because you played basketball in north as an athlete. Right,

496
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: you don't look at him like the same way you know,

497
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: we talked about Miles Garrett or Lawrence Taylor or Deacon Jones,

498
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: like is that badass edge rusher who's just taking names

499
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: and putting bodies in the ground. Right, you look at

500
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Speaker 3: him as a super athlete who got his way downe.

501
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: But then you just look at the fact eleven interceptions,

502
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Speaker 3: four of them return for touchdown. Now you're when you're

503
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Speaker 3: six eight, Okay, you know part of that, But I

504
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: mean it's it's two All decade teams, Right, this guy

505
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: played for eighteen years.

506
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Speaker 1: That's what did it. That's what did it, Steve. That's

507
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Speaker 1: what helped push him on this list. When I saw

508
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Speaker 1: that he was second team Hall of Fame All Decade

509
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: in the two thousands for the Hall of Fame and

510
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Speaker 1: actually first team from Pro Football Reference they do their

511
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Speaker 1: own list, and I thought that was an interesting other

512
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Speaker 1: voice to listen to in the two thousands, and then

513
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Speaker 1: he's also on the Hall of Fame All twenty tens

514
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: and second team for the Pro Football Reference All twenty tens.

515
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Speaker 1: That was what did it, because I'm not I'm trying

516
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: not to over reward longevity. I want to be about

517
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: like greatness. But he did have that high level greatness

518
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: and the longevity put it over the top for me.

519
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: But he wasn't a compiler.

520
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Right now, a lot of people are like, oh, Frank

521
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: Gor's got these great numbers, But he was a compiler

522
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: because he played for so long. Pep was still giving

523
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: me double digit sacks in years fourteen fifteen playing for

524
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: the Bears, playing for the Packers, he was still putting

525
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: up big numbers. And you know, unlike Miles Garrett and

526
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Speaker 3: he played on some really good Panthers teams. He played

527
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Speaker 3: in Super Bowls, right, he really affected things. But in

528
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Speaker 3: covering that division when I worked in Atlanta from two

529
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Speaker 3: thousand and five to two thousand and eight, like the

530
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Speaker 3: Panthers were the team. It's always the Panthers and the Falcons,

531
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Speaker 3: and everyone's trying to out athlete each other. Right, you know,

532
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: the Panthers got Thomas Davis because he was a hybrid

533
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: safety linebacker who could spy Michael Vick. He's the guy

534
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Speaker 3: who could run with Michael Vick. And then you see

535
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Speaker 3: Julius Peppers, like there's no body on the offensive line,

536
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 3: there's no running back or whatever that could handle him,

537
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Speaker 3: whether it be power, whether it be finesse. And because

538
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Speaker 3: Pep didn't say much whore I'm talking about a smack

539
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Speaker 3: on that video clip, but perhaps a real quiet guy.

540
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Speaker 3: You know, he never you never were just like, man,

541
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Speaker 3: he took over a game and you're just saying yourself,

542
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: he made a spectacular play here and there, but he

543
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: never took over a game. So you're wondering, like, is

544
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: he really that guy? And then you go back and

545
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: think about, like, oh yeah, he really was. What was

546
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Speaker 3: I watching right?

547
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Speaker 1: And it kind of accumulated slowly because he won Defensive

548
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, he was thought he was the

549
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Speaker 1: number two overall pick in the draft and viewed as,

550
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Speaker 1: you know, a generational type of athlete.

551
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Speaker 4: I actually think him and Garrett.

552
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Speaker 1: Have a lot of similarity, I agree of coming out

553
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Speaker 1: of the draft, and there was a sense in Carolina

554
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: could he be even more? But three first team All Pros,

555
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Speaker 1: three second team All Pros, and like you mentioned, those

556
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: are sprinkled over a number of years. Only player ever

557
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: with one hundred sacks and ten interceptions. And one thing

558
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Speaker 1: that strikes me is he got to the end of

559
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: these contracts, So that says a lot. Yeah, seven years

560
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Speaker 1: with the Panthers and then he signs a record breaking

561
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Speaker 1: at the time defensive contract for the Bear ends up

562
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: four years with the Bears, lasted a while there, he

563
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: did get cut by the Bears. Then he gets a

564
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: three year big contract from the Packers at thirty four

565
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: years old. He plays through the end of that contract

566
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: and played very well. He you know, I asked Ross

567
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: Tucker about him who went up against him, you know,

568
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: just on text and everything, and he said he thinks

569
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Speaker 1: he's the most athletic player he ever played against. And

570
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Speaker 1: actually it was Peppers or it was either Ross's first

571
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: game or I think Pepper's first game that he says

572
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: he put Ross on the ground and literally jumped over him.

573
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: So that's the type of thing that he did. I

574
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Speaker 1: want to talk about a two play sequence in this

575
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: was back in two thousand and four, just sort of

576
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Speaker 1: as an example of how great Peppers was and what

577
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: kind of player he was. If younger fans maybe don't

578
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: have an idea, it was a two play sequence against

579
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Speaker 1: the Broncos, and if you have a chance, we are

580
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: doing these show on YouTube as well, so everyone checked

581
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: that out. But there's a run at the one yard

582
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: line where Jake Plummer is going to the edge and

583
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Speaker 1: he absolutely has the angle on Julius Peppers. This is

584
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Speaker 1: an athletic player and Peppers somehow runs him down. This

585
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: is at the end of a ten play drive. The

586
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: very next play after Pepper's in theory call, Win did

587
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: backs up in coverage. I challenge a cornerback to have

588
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: that good coverage and he goes over one hundred yards

589
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: and he does not make it to the very end,

590
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: falls on his back. I think it's one hundred and

591
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: three yards, but he only gets to the three yard line.

592
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: But those two plays in a row. He said he

593
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: was sucking wind before that play even started because he

594
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: had just run down Plumber and then he ends up

595
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: having this long interception return, and that to me is

596
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of an example of what kind of freaky.

597
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: Was And for people again who don't realize this, Jake

598
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: Plumber was a hell of an app Yes, he's a

599
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: dude who used to run all the time he was

600
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: on the move. And for Pep just to chase him

601
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: down like that and then make this play, I mean,

602
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: that's absolutely fantastic. Now, the linebacker who's trying to get

603
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: the plumbers to had turned around and picked off the guy,

604
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: so so Pep could have got to the house. But still,

605
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: here's your thing. Fifty two forced fumbles. So you think

606
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: about that, he had eleven picks and fifty two forced fumbles. Right,

607
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: that's an opportunity for sixty three changed possessions. That is

608
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: a that is the ultimate difference maker, regardless of who

609
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: he's playing for. That's why he's able to play in

610
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl and do some of the great things that

611
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: he did.

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Speaker 1: I think of players on this list, they got to

613
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: stand out to me, and Pepper's he just felt like

614
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: he was a player from the future. You could you know,

615
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: he was drafted now twenty years ago, and if he

616
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: was you know more than that, right, twenty three years ago,

617
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: if you dropped him in the two thousand and twenty

618
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: five class, he would still be the number one.

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Speaker 4: Pick, number two pick.

620
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, first or second pick.

621
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean like he was from the future.

622
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: As great as he looks on these clips, you know now,

623
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: just comparing him to what was going on back then.

624
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: One thing under about him maybe his motor. He missed

625
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: four games as a rookie after that, only two more

626
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: his entire career. And if you look at like the

627
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: percentage of snaps he was on the field, he didn't

628
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: come off like he did not come off the field.

629
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: So he was a guy who made it onto my

630
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: list late. I had some tough decisions. He went in

631
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: over Freey, he went in over von Miller. If I

632
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: did this list again, like he might be on it

633
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: next time. I had a hard time leaving von Miller off.

634
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: But he is over von Miller, He is over Jason

635
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: Taylor and some more of the great passers.

636
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Speaker 3: We're talking about a pass rusher for the future, Like

637
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: can you imagine he played in Dom Caper's thirty four

638
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: where they played the hard edge setting defensive. If he

639
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: was played would play like a wide nine, like the

640
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: stuff Solid does and the stuff that Vic Fangio does.

641
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: How he could get one on one matchups. His numbers

642
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: would be bigger than they are now.

643
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely so.

644
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: Julius Pepper's on the list, and yeah, if you're thinking

645
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: about edge players. By the way, Michael Strahan was a

646
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: really tough guy to leave because a lot of the

647
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: great part of his career was in the nineties. So

648
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the twenty five year cutoff hurt Michael Strahan. Although he

649
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome, yes he was in the two thousands.

650
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: He had a very strong case. So it's very tough

651
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: to pick these guys, but I think Julius will do

652
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: us proud. All Right, we'll be back after this the

653
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Speaker 1: next two players back on NFL Daily talking about the

654
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Speaker 1: best twenty five players of the last twenty five years.

655
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Speaker 1: Steve and you suggested we should do a show on

656
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Speaker 1: the omissions.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to make people mad, though maybe after like.

658
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Speaker 3: This list, any list is going to make people mad

659
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: about who's not on.

660
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they won't know until until we get to

661
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: the end. Although I'm spoiling it a little bit. We

662
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: might have to do a follow up with some reaction,

663
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: maybe a male band. If anyone thinks that I got

664
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: anything really wrong. I don't think unless people are crazy,

665
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be any arguments about the next guy on

666
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: our list.

667
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: Number seventeen Adrian Peterson.

668
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 8: This is perhaps one of the greatest single handed runs

669
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 8: I've seen, and Adrian Peterson just refused to go down.

670
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: Handoff.

671
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 5: On third down, he runs to a first down, he

672
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 5: squats to the far side across the fifty.

673
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: He breaks the tackle and Adrian Peterson is loose.

674
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 7: He has scored.

675
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: As sixty five yard touchdown.

676
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: Guess right to make of vich generation would be Adrian

677
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 6: Peters with.

678
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: The mindset I had, you know, and then the guy

679
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: that have will front. You know, I know anything that's possible.

680
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 9: That's why I continue to do the things, you know,

681
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 9: working hard in practice.

682
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 8: Just the slightest of openings that Peterson goes all the way,

683
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 8: I'll let.

684
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 6: To work right to Adrian Peterson as an animal, I mean,

685
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 6: the guys just relentless.

686
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't.

687
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson came into the NFL as one of the

688
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: best college runners in history of Oklahoma. In day one

689
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL, he was one of, if not the

690
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: best running backs in the NFL four first team All

691
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: pros a few more seconds, the last non quarterback to

692
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: win the MVP back in two.

693
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: Thousand and twelve.

694
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: I'll let you go with you like your first your

695
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: first memory, instinct anything covering this guy.

696
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: Well, look, my first thing is the first time I Dumby,

697
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: I shook his hand, right, So you always heard like,

698
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: oh and Adrian Peterson shakes your hand, he's gonna break it.

699
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: He broke it. I was like, what did I do?

700
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: Man? Like, what did I do? So every time I

701
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: actually we're fist bumping. I mean that thing is real.

702
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: And you know, you hear about guys who are real

703
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: strong in the weight room. I don't know what he

704
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 3: did the weight room, but he's got what I call

705
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: pipe bending shrink, Like he could just take a freaking

706
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: engine blockout with his bare hands. He's so strong. And

707
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: then you couple that with the speed in the vision

708
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: because the Vikings made no bones about what they were

709
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: going to do with him in the backfield, They're giving

710
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: him the ball, he's gonna run it.

711
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Try and stop me with you can'to.

712
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: He had a really good offensive line in front of him,

713
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: but there were still guys who were able to try

714
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 3: to get to him, and either he shook them knocked

715
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: them over.

716
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: It was it was amazing.

717
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: Like I tell people, one thing that that blew my mind,

718
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: blows my mind about Adrian Peterson was. He played for

719
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: as long as he did because after a year or

720
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: two people realized how strong he was, they would load

721
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: up on him. I mean I saw him take some

722
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: shots that would knock people out. He just ran right

723
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: through them, got up, and you know what, it just deflated.

724
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: I forget.

725
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: It was a game in the Metrodome against somebody to

726
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: dB hit him as hard as I've seen a player

727
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: ever get hit, and he just shook it off like, Okay,

728
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: that's you know.

729
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: All day, that's my name all day.

730
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 3: You're gonna be feeling that that dB was like, man,

731
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: you know that dude just walked through my right hand basically.

732
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: And and the fact that he just did all of

733
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: that was exemplified to twenty twelve. Rosie when he comes

734
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: off the torn acl at the end Christmas Eve of

735
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, comes back the next year in Leslie Frayer's

736
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: coaching the Vikings and Rushes for almost twenty one hundred

737
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: yards right. They gave him the ball three hundred and

738
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: forty eight times off of a torn acl and he

739
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: put up two thousand yards running the ball like he's

740
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: that specially, he had over a thousand yards like at

741
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: the end of his career when he was playing for Washington.

742
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: Right, and he's on this list because of those first

743
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: you know, seven years when he did not leave the

744
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: field and we remember him, you know, leading the NFL

745
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: and rushing coming off that torn acl That two thousand

746
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: and twelve season that you mentioned, that was the year

747
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: he won the MVP. That was the year he goes

748
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: for two thousand and ninety seven rushing yards still the

749
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: second most ever twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage. And

750
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: of all the guys on this list that have gone

751
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: back and watched some of the highlights, I think he

752
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: put the biggest smile on my face, just just like

753
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: watching this dude gallop in the open field. Some people

754
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: are just born to do something, and this man was

755
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: born to run a football and you could see the

756
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: joy that he played with. He obviously played with a toughness,

757
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: but I just felt like running hard is a skill

758
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: and running backs can only do it for so long.

759
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: You only have maybe so many times you're gonna get hit.

760
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: If there was a metric for running hard. To me,

761
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: he's my all time leader in running hard per carry

762
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: because every single carry of his.

763
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: Career he brought that juice.

764
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: And that's why I despite all the injuries that slowed

765
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: him down in the back half of his career, he

766
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: still played till he was thirty six because he still

767
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: was helping a team out by just running that hard.

768
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: Well.

769
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: I mean, remember the season when he kept on fumbling

770
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: the ball because he was trying to get the extra yard.

771
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: That was the thing he was always trying to get

772
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: the X yar guys are punching out. It comes back

773
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: to the next year and doesn't put the ball on the ground.

774
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it goes to show you how much it

775
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: meant to him. Here's something people don't think about when

776
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: they talk about Adrian Peterson. When you go back when

777
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: he played those games at the old Metro Dome, the

778
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: turf on that field was like that long.

779
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: It was a slow track.

780
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: This is your definition of a listeners right about what

781
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: three or four about two and a half okay, branches long.

782
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: It was long, like uncut grass for three weeks. The

783
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: fast turf like today's field turf is maybe a centimeter

784
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: off the foundation with those rubber pellets in there. If

785
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: he had played on some of that shorter turf where

786
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: he could actually dig in tougher and deliver blows and

787
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: play a little fast. I don't know if his career

788
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: would have been as long, I don't know, but the

789
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: physicality he was able to play with I always time

790
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: I went to the metronome, I was like, why would

791
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: you have this long of turf with a running back

792
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: like Adrian Peterson. I would replace this stuff and get

793
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: on a fast track. And it was just for years

794
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: he played all that type of turf and still put

795
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: up unbelievable numbers.

796
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, his first really seven seasons in the NFL, he

797
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: had one, you know, minor injury about six years in

798
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: that that caused him to miss about four games. But

799
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: he's putting up seventeen hundred yards on the ground, thirteen

800
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve hundred and then the big two thousand.

801
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: He as just like a pure runner. You're giving the ball,

802
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: you know. He was not known for his like blocking ability.

803
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: He had a lot of big receptions actually per catch,

804
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: because if you just got him on a little swing

805
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: or anything like, he would take it to the house

806
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times.

807
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of those on his highlights.

808
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: But he was not as complete a back, maybe as

809
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: a Marshall falk Or Ladanian Tomlinson for instance, even that

810
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: first year where he didn't get All Pro, it was

811
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: actually Brian Westbrook in his best season or the first

812
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: team All Pro had like twenty three hundred yards. But

813
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: in terms of running the ball, lateral ability, shifting gears, like,

814
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: what stands out to you watching him.

815
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: The vision of the power?

816
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm telling you you saw

817
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: some of the hot because you know, as big and

818
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: strong as he was, like his waist, he probably had

819
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: like a twenty eight inch waist, right, So guys who'd

820
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: come in and take big shots at him, there wasn't

821
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: a ton in the mid section to hit.

822
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: He ran kind of straight up.

823
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't necessarily always bone guys with the shoulders when

824
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: he ran, so he was he was dipping it like

825
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: he could.

826
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: He could shake a guy. The great running.

827
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 3: Backs could shake a guy in the phone booth or

828
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: verbial phone. But he was that guy. But then it

829
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: was just so much heat and strength behind it. You're like, Okay,

830
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: do I hit him in the thigh, which is the

831
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: strongest bastle group of his body and he's gonna, you know,

832
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: concuss me or what am I doing? Here, so he

833
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: was frustrating to play play against. And when I think

834
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: about it, I mean think about the twenty twelve season too.

835
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: Christian Ponder was his quarterback. Oh man, his leading receiver

836
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: was Percy Harvan.

837
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: Like the bread farmer Barbara was gone, right, you know that?

838
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: So that brief stint Wow.

839
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: And that's a good call that he had the two

840
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: thousand and ninety seven yards with Ponder as his quarterback.

841
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, do you see why he got the ball

842
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: as many times as he did and they only won

843
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: ten games. They did win their final four games that

844
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: season to get into the playoffs and they're losing the

845
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: wild card. But I mean with that, dude did like

846
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: he's going to be the last running back to go

847
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame. He's He's always won twenty seven.

848
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: He'll be the last running back to go in until

849
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry probably maybe Marshawn maybe, But when you think

850
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: about the way football has changed, he is the last hmm,

851
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: big bellcow until you get you get to Derrick Henry.

852
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: It's a great it's a great call.

853
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: Now I am hoping that the voters consider my guy

854
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: Frank or overtime. I'm not saying that you get in

855
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe one because he to me was a truly excellent player.

856
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: But you're right, I did not put those guys on

857
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: this list. I did think about Derrick Henry. He would

858
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: be the running back right now. Who who would have chance?

859
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Certainly Gore, You know CMC. There's there's been some great bats,

860
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: but Peterson's different. And the fact on a bunch of

861
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: bad teams, he did make the NFC Championship game with

862
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Brett fav as you mentioned, they made the playoffs a

863
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: couple of times in that eighth nine window, but he

864
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: did not have a chance to have a lot of

865
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: playoff success, and yet everyone knew he was that dude.

866
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw to an old colleague of ours, a

867
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: guy I used to enjoy working with on an outfit

868
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: called what was it called NFL Plus back in the day.

869
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: This is Ike Taylor being interviewed for the NFL one

870
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: hundred series.

871
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: Does he make it the mega sent out for two years?

872
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 6: He gonna make it one nightmare? He's Jason Freddy Krueger Like,

873
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 6: when you where you talking about the Minnesota Vikers where

874
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: Adrian Peterson playing, We have to stop this.

875
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: That was just funny to me that he made the

876
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: top one to one in a year that he didn't play.

877
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: This is enough players just voted for him anyways. He's

878
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: that's respect is Ike is the absolute Yes he is.

879
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching him play so much that why not

880
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: let's actually throw it back to his time in Washington.

881
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: Not what people think of with Adrian Peterson, but him

882
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: ripping off. And when I went through his greatest plays,

883
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: so many of them are forty to seventy yarders. This

884
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: guy was a drive in one play, he was a

885
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: big play machine.

886
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 7: My god, touchdown sixty four yards.

887
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 4: I just like that he was still getting it. That

888
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: was like year twelve at the end of his career.

889
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, man, the load he took in

890
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: the shots he took. If you were on the field

891
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: and you watch some of the shots he took before

892
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: he was coming through the little hole line of script,

893
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: he took some licks and just I know, the other

894
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: dude's worse off than me.

895
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: It was an amazing combination of a slasher like he

896
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: is the slasher and not afraid to take contact and

897
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: get that extra two or three yards through contact like

898
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: they teach you. But also when he was in the

899
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: open field on so many of these big plays. His footwork,

900
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: just the way he would set guys up, and those

901
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: feet just suddenly stop start moving really quick when he's

902
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: about to, you know, make a cut. It just froze

903
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: defenders and then he gets past them and you're not

904
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna catch him.

905
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: He's a throwback. I mean, he's a seventies running back.

906
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: He's a Franco Harris guy. Mikel didn't have a speed,

907
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: but Earl Campbell type of guy. I mean, he he

908
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: would have fit so well in that era.

909
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: All right, our next guy would have fit in absolutely

910
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: any era. I have to admit I feel bad, and

911
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: this is true for a lot of these guys coming up.

912
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: We're getting to the real meat of this list. I

913
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: feel bad for not having him higher.

914
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: Number sixteen Drew Breese breeze.

915
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: It's under center, the snap to spin, the fake handoff,

916
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: prop tacks, seven torsa saw passing.

917
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: Ends one Pat Pedalley touch touchdown.

918
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: That's craped Fine Hill. That's him, Pats the record.

919
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: Drew Brees has thrown for more touchdown passes than any

920
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: quarterback in professional football history.

921
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 8: Drew Brees is all around quarterback and anytime you think

922
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 8: of Drew Brees, you think about the regulasy are broken drops?

923
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Bat looks to the fore sideline. Why tho it's been

924
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: Drake Laont Smith.

925
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: And Traylenn Smith is gonna go to the end zone?

926
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: Drew Brees has done it.

927
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: You have just witness history New Orleans.

928
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 4: Drew Brees is the NFL's all time leading passer.

929
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 8: Thomas in the backfield. Here's the crowner shocking at the touchdown.

930
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 8: Jeremy Shocky in the slot to the road. All right,

931
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 8: the Saints are back in the end zone on a

932
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 8: two yard touchdown sposition.

933
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: He'd make a habit? Did you make a habit?

934
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: Maybe?

935
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 8: Yeah? D you make it happen?

936
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: A record setter in so many categories, the leader in

937
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: passing yards so many times, set the passing yards record,

938
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: set the touchdown mark at one point in his career.

939
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: A guy who now is second all time in passing

940
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns to Tom Brady, but a guy who

941
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: was as consistent as anyone could possibly be, but also

942
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: had some of the highest of highs. One of those

943
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: touchdown calls you heard there was a go ahead touchdown

944
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Shockey with under six minutes to go in

945
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Everyone remembers Tracy Porter, but it took

946
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Drew Brees driving down the field and making it happen

947
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: to go take that.

948
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: Well, I mean his competitiveness. You know, we hear this

949
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: about all the great ones was unmatched. And it's not

950
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: just on the field or training. The stories you hear

951
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: are talking to our old colleague Chase Daniel, who backed up

952
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: Drew Brees for years. Like the preparation he had in

953
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: meetings and the way he would see the field and

954
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: see the game and then was in so in tune

955
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: with Sean Payton as a play caller, was like next level.

956
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: Like everybody who came from playing behind Drew Brees says,

957
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: they learned how to prepare now so when they would

958
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 3: go to their next team, they could train younger guys

959
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: on how to study for meetings. But you know, here,

960
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 3: here's a really a couple cool things about Drew Brees. Okay,

961
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: other than Marcus Colston, Jeremy Shockey, Jimmy Graham, until Michael

962
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: Thomas came to the end of his career, like.

963
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: Who are his receivers? It was a revolving door of receivers, right,

964
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: But here's a great story that Jameis Winston told me

965
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: why Drew Brees was so good because the one stat

966
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: you didn't talk about that we finally started talking about.

967
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: Because Drew Brees completion percentage. So Jamie said, they were

968
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: playing a game. They were down two scores with like

969
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: four minutes left. So what's Jamie is thinking? We gotta

970
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 3: take some shots here. He's on the sideline, Breeze is playing,

971
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: and Breeze is methodically seven yards here, nine yards here.

972
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: So they end up scoring a touchdown. But there's only

973
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: like a minute a half left on the clock. So

974
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 3: Breeze is so he's like, man, why aren't you taking shots?

975
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: What are we doing with the plays we're calling? He's like, hey, hey,

976
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: protect the ball, you play within the offense, you move

977
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: the ball down the field. We see you got in

978
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: the end zone. We got a defense that can take

979
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: the ball away. We'll get another chance to get back

980
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: in there.

981
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: They get another chance.

982
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: They didn't win the game, but where so many quarterbacks

983
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: are thinking, Okay, you know, Jennale's pumping, we got.

984
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: To go do this.

985
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: Breeze is like, this is how we do things here,

986
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: this is what works. This is why Jamie's here throwing

987
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: thirty picks a season and I'm throwing nine, and it's

988
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, I covered so many Saints games

989
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: during the breeze era, and just seeing I'm six to two, right,

990
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: he's he's about my height, maybe a little shorter, maybe

991
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: he's he's not as small as you think people trying

992
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: to diminish his size. But what Sean Payton did with

993
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: him because of his size, helped teams build their offensive

994
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: lines a certain way and open the door for shorter quarterbacks.

995
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 3: The Tours of the world, the Bakers of the world,

996
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: and that's built them guard to guard. Right, you talked

997
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: about Jarry Evans, one of the best guards of the

998
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: ear in some of these interior alignments. So now you

999
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: got a pocket, you gotta stele like Toronto Armstead and

1000
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: some of these other guys here to handle the one

1001
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: on one stuff. But more and more teams these days,

1002
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 3: because of Drew Brees and the way the success had

1003
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: stepping up into the pocket, build their team's guard center

1004
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: guard to create throwing lanes for their shorter quarterback.

1005
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: So I love what you said about the completion percentage,

1006
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: which is a stat that I thought at some points

1007
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: could get a little overrated, But I think in Breeze's case,

1008
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: and he finished his career five straight years over seventy percent,

1009
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: like he was setting the record, Like there were three

1010
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: straight years where he had like seventy two, seventy four,

1011
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: seventy four percent.

1012
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: Just numbers that you've never seen before.

1013
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: Were the reason why it mattered so much, because not

1014
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: just because he was making the right football play and

1015
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: throwing to the open receiver, was that it was setting

1016
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: up despite his reputation one of the most efficient deep

1017
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: ball throwers in the history of the NFL, if you

1018
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: go back and you look through his greatest plays in

1019
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: some of the most important plays of his career, and

1020
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: I went and did that this week, you know how

1021
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: many of them are to Deveri Heerson and Robert Meacham

1022
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks.

1023
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: I would say plus forty, like so many. And you

1024
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: want to know why that is?

1025
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: Because you're playing zone against Drew Brees and he's picked

1026
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: your part eight nine eleven, eight nine eleven, and then

1027
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: suddenly you get caught sleeping and there goes Brandon Cooks

1028
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: for eighty nine. And you know, like how perfectly each

1029
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: one of those passes were He did not have the

1030
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: arm of Farvard or anything like that, but his timing

1031
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: made up for it and turned him into I think

1032
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: the most underrated deep ball thrower ever because it was

1033
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: such a huge part of his game and even volume wise.

1034
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: They threw a lot of deep balls even late in

1035
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: his career, and they hit him because it was one

1036
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: part of his excellence setting up another part.

1037
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: And look, part of the play again. I must have

1038
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: covered I could pay stay tax in Louisiana. I've covered

1039
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: to many Saints games in the Breeze era. But look,

1040
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: they had one of the best screen games, you know,

1041
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 3: with Reggie Bush and then Pierre Thomas. Right, so they

1042
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: used the screen game as the run game. We know

1043
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: how much he love the tight ends in the red zone.

1044
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Benjamin Watts, I think I got a thirteen toychdown

1045
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: cat season.

1046
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 4: Shaki was great.

1047
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: I mean, so they utilized a lot of things to

1048
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: set up the deep throws. But the one thing about

1049
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: Breeze too, you always see he had this kind of

1050
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: motion where he when he would throw it, it was

1051
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: almost like, you know, the Greek god type of he

1052
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: was laning back like man, how does he see? And

1053
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: He just trust his preparation so much, his practice reps

1054
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: so much because he's he's got this odd thing. If

1055
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: we go back and look at his highlights, you'll see

1056
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: some of those throws, but so much of it is

1057
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: built on the preparation.

1058
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: Let's not forget this was a dude.

1059
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: People thought's career was over when he left the Chargers

1060
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: and he had a debilitating, super damaged shoulder, to where

1061
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: when he went on free agent vigits with the Dolphins

1062
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: when Nick Saban was coaching them and the Saints, the

1063
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: Dolphins are like, yeah, we don't think he's gonna be

1064
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: able to last because of that shoulder.

1065
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: Goes to the Saints in two thousand and six.

1066
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: After they returned from San Antonio because a hurricane Katrina,

1067
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: and just starts dialing it up.

1068
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: I am so glad you mentioned the San Diego years

1069
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: because his entry into the NFL was really bumpy. He

1070
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: did not play as a rookie.

1071
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: He I think Doug Flutie was playing.

1072
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie was playing, and you know he was a

1073
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: early second round pick because of the size.

1074
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: Probably he was six feet.

1075
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: You're saying he's looking at you, i'd eyes at six feet.

1076
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1077
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: Maybe it was because he you know, he also compared

1078
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: to some of the quarterbacks, relatively slight. I remember, you know,

1079
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: I've walked by him and stuff. He just in a

1080
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: different setting. He looks like a normal guy. Most of

1081
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: these guys don't look like No. So he he comes

1082
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: in his second year after not playing as a rookie,

1083
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: and he's okay, it's up and down, but he's showing promise.

1084
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: The next year, he gets benched in the middle of

1085
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: the year. They are two and nine. He is struggling.

1086
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: He has more interceptions than touchdowns, doesn't totally get along

1087
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: with his head coach. There's like there's kind of like

1088
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: conversation of like does he have a good attitude, like

1089
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: stuff like this, and now knowing his history, like he

1090
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: was a competitor and that team was terrible and he

1091
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: was put in a tough spot. Benched the draft Philip

1092
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: Rivers in the next draft, Philip Rivers is going to

1093
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: start over him and Breeze's career is in a really

1094
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: tough place until well, Breeze until Rivers holds out a

1095
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: training camp very Chargers esque contract negotiations. They can't agree

1096
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: to a contract Breeze comes out the next year and

1097
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: he wins Comeback Player of the Year. He is awesome

1098
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: in training camp, he is awesome in the season. He

1099
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: does not let Rivers get on the field, and he

1100
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: ends up, you know, starting another year in front of

1101
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: Rivers also playing well. But as you mentioned, hurts his

1102
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: shoulder at the very end of it, and that sets

1103
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: up the free agency visit where he wanted to play

1104
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: with Miami, they didn't want him, and he ends up changing,

1105
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, a city forever and that that's he.

1106
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: Could run for governor right now, he would win one

1107
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the votes.

1108
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if any one player has had a

1109
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: bigger impact on their city than Drew Brees on New Orleans.

1110
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: You might be right. He is. He is worshiped. He

1111
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: is held in that high regard.

1112
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: And when we think about the primiers, Greg, you know,

1113
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: you're worlds a lot, You're a two lane grad. That guy,

1114
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 3: what he did for that city, the way he embraced

1115
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: that city, especially coming post Katrina. He showed up there

1116
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: with Sean Payton as a tandem and six.

1117
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: Right, So that's their first season and is easily his

1118
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: best season as a pro up until that point, he

1119
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: gets All Pro First Team in that season. People don't remember,

1120
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: they were not really high expectations. They go ten and six,

1121
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: they win a playoff game, they get to the NFC

1122
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: Championship game that year and get turned back and Breeze

1123
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: you suddenly realize this marriage between him and Peyton, how

1124
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: he started winning from the neck up and Lance Moore

1125
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: and just that that whole team was just one of

1126
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: my favorite Reggie Bush.

1127
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: Duce McAllistair. I mean, it's just so fun to watch

1128
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: with teams.

1129
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: So I mentioned, I mentioned the that's his All Pro team,

1130
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: and he could be higher on this list. I didn't

1131
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: want it to be all quarterbacks at the top. It

1132
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: could be you know, there are a number of quarterbacks.

1133
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: Hold up real quick. Ye said that was his All

1134
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: Pro season. Yes, his only All Pro season.

1135
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: And that's what's tough about Breeze evalued him this way.

1136
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: He had some of the best seasons ever that didn't

1137
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: win MVP, and he did win second team All Pro

1138
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: four different times. And it's to Manning twice, Rogers, it's

1139
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: to Mahomes and right, it's it's to some of the

1140
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: greatest players of all time. And his twenty eleven season,

1141
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: and I would argue at two thousand and nine because

1142
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I actually was writing at College dcsports dot com at

1143
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: the time. I thought Drew Brees should have been the

1144
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: MVP that season in the regular season over Peyton Manning.

1145
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: So while it doesn't look as great that he only

1146
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: gets one first team All Pro two of those seasons,

1147
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: man he had his strong argument for it. Rogers had

1148
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: a crazy twenty eleven season and Manning was great in

1149
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: a nine. I would have picked Breeze, but Saints fans

1150
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: will tell you, like, he could easily have three MVPs,

1151
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to kill him that he was

1152
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: like the second best player in the NFL in those seasons.

1153
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: Here's a validation. He's up to go to campon next year.

1154
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: Well, yes, there's no going Well, yeah, he's one of

1155
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: those guys you don't even have to make an argue.

1156
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 4: So don't don't come after me.

1157
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: I'm not coming after you. I mean, I'm just saying

1158
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a list of I mean, I love

1159
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: the dude. I love.

1160
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like, isn't it crazy that he

1161
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 3: was this great that he's won of the leading pastors.

1162
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: Of all time?

1163
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: And they made the Pro are the All Pro Team

1164
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: ONTs because again he played look at the ear. He

1165
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: talked about me Yes, Manning, Brady Rogers, mahomes of some

1166
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: of the great quarterbacks.

1167
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: And he only was able to make it one time.

1168
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: And yet he won. You know, it's crazy.

1169
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: He actually won two Offensive Players of the Year, so

1170
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: that you would think is like a higher honor.

1171
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 4: But in those years where he two of those years

1172
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 4: where he.

1173
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Came in second for MVP, they kind of gave him

1174
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: the consolation prize because he had such an incredible year

1175
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: and he ends up winning Offensive Player of the Year.

1176
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: He won Comeback Player of the Year. But it was

1177
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: not in the year that he's coming back from that

1178
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: horrible Souldier surgery hand it's getting benched. It was from

1179
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: being bad in San Diego. He actually won Comeback Player

1180
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: of the Year in San Diego. So I struggled at first.

1181
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I had Lamar Jackson over him. He was in our

1182
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: first episode in the between twenty one and twenty five,

1183
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson because his highs have been.

1184
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: So so high the MVP.

1185
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: And then when I looked at it, though, I was like, man,

1186
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: Drew Brees' highs are pretty.

1187
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get free king argue for that.

1188
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm just like, they are amazing, leading the

1189
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: league and passing so many times. One of the best

1190
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: to ever do it. Steve Weis is one of the

1191
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: best to ever do I'm glad you came in for this.

1192
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: So glad you asked me to do this. When you

1193
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: told me the project, you know, I was like, this

1194
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: is great, and he pulled it off.

1195
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: So far, well done.

1196
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: We've just getting going here.

1197
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: Our next episode we will tackle players fifteen through twelve.

1198
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: That is gonna be a lot of fun. We'll see

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: you next time.