WEBVTT - LEGACY

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<v Speaker 1>Husband, father, creator in basketball icon, Kobe Bryant leaves a

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<v Speaker 1>complex legacy. I'm Steve Gregory and this is the death

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<v Speaker 1>in life of Kobe Bryant. Cindy Borne is a sports

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<v Speaker 1>reporter with the Washington Post and provided a recap on

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<v Speaker 1>Brian's legacy the day after he died. Probably really was

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. He embodied the Lakers son. Some players came

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<v Speaker 1>and went, You know, Kobe was such a warrior on

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball court, and he famously played with a torn

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<v Speaker 1>achilles and finally he walked away. He had gotten as

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<v Speaker 1>much out of his body as he could after the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and he really sort of moved on then into his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter's athleticism, into their athletic endeavors. And his second daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>um Gianna, who was thirteen, was interested in basketball. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to play in the w n b A, she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go to Yukon, and Kobe found himself pulled

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<v Speaker 1>back into basketball and really enjoying it again through her eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be people who will remember an allegation of

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<v Speaker 1>a sexual assault and how that was dealt with. It

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<v Speaker 1>is an unquestionably ugly part of his legacy. Um It's

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<v Speaker 1>one that is some point receded into the background, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does still exist. Kurt Alexander, the host of the

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<v Speaker 1>nationally syndicated radio show Big Boys Neighborhood, says he was

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<v Speaker 1>a personal friend of Bryant's and knew him when he

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<v Speaker 1>first arrived in l A. I asked him what he

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<v Speaker 1>thought Bryant's legacy could be. Man, I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>say the super human being legacy. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a legacy of basketball. You know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>basketball fans, but I think that people love Kobe as

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant. There's there's a there's an umbrella, there's the top,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything else falls into There's Kobe Bryant, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's basketball player father. There's so many things that

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<v Speaker 1>fall under that. So I think the legacy is just

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant. You can't define Kobe Bryant by basketball. I've

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<v Speaker 1>known Kobe years and I don't say, oh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when I enter or whatever. I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many right now? What is he five rings? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my guests just like calculating. But I never

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<v Speaker 1>equated Kobe to the jewelry on his finger, the trophies

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<v Speaker 1>at the Staples Center, it was just Kobe Bryant. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>else fell under that. So I think that when we

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<v Speaker 1>think of legacy, hold Kobe Bryant as a legacy, not

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<v Speaker 1>as a legendary basketball player. Sports journalist Larry Brown owns

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<v Speaker 1>the website Larry brown sports dot com and covered the

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<v Speaker 1>crash that morning. He says Bryant's legacy is more sports centric.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, absolutely beloved in Los Angeles, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many great Lakers, Magic Johnson and Kareema, Jerry West.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look up at the rafters at Staples

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<v Speaker 1>and see all the jerseys up there. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>great Lakers, um shack. You know. It's but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to argue against Kobe as the greatest, for the

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<v Speaker 1>length of time he spent with the team, for everything

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<v Speaker 1>he accomplished with the team. It's it's hard to argue

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<v Speaker 1>against that. It's a great legacy. I think another part

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<v Speaker 1>of his legacy is how beloved he was, not just

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<v Speaker 1>by basketball fans, but multicultural appeal. You know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things about Kobe was not only did he grow

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<v Speaker 1>up speaking Italian, but he knew Spanish and he knew

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<v Speaker 1>other languages, and so he could communicate. He knew that

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<v Speaker 1>Laker fans were a very diverse fan base. Um, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of Persian Laker fans, lots of Asian ones, Aremenian Laker fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he tried to appeal to all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and he appealed to all of them. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think Kobe's appeal was transcended culture because of his character,

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<v Speaker 1>his determination and his will to win. It just crosses

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<v Speaker 1>all cultures and attracts people. And that's part of his legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, really after his retirement, It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until after his death and I started to hear all

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<v Speaker 1>these stories people were telling about how much Kobe gave

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<v Speaker 1>back to the game of basketball that I really started

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<v Speaker 1>to see his legacy. It wasn't just about what he

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished on the court, but so much of his legacy

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<v Speaker 1>was about what he did after he had retired. All

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<v Speaker 1>these players were coming out and talking about how Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>would would break down game footage for them and would

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<v Speaker 1>try and work in one on one sessions with them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to give back everything that he had

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<v Speaker 1>learned earned over the course of his career to the

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<v Speaker 1>current players so that they could keep it going forward

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<v Speaker 1>so that the game of basketball would not lose all

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<v Speaker 1>that knowledge, uh, and that it would continue to be

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<v Speaker 1>passed down. And that's such a big part of his legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>was what he gave back to the game because he

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<v Speaker 1>recognized how much it gave to him. And Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that message was conveyed so clearly that I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>realized it prior to his death, but afterwards, when all

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<v Speaker 1>these players were talking about what he had done for them,

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<v Speaker 1>I really started to see it. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe didn't publicize that, UM, and I respect him more

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<v Speaker 1>for not publicizing that that we found out later through

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<v Speaker 1>these people, And I think that's part of his legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really nice part of his legacy. Kevin Beggs

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<v Speaker 1>is the chairman of lions Gate Television and a board

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<v Speaker 1>member of My Friend's Place, a nonprofit dedicated to helping

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<v Speaker 1>young people experiencing homelessness. We've talked about Brian's involvement with

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<v Speaker 1>the organization in previous episodes. Begs says two of the

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<v Speaker 1>best moments at My Friends Place finding out Bryant wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved and the time he provided enough funding

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<v Speaker 1>to renovate the facility in Hollywood Begs says Bryant was

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<v Speaker 1>one of a kind. I mean, I think his legacy

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<v Speaker 1>on the court extends to his legacy and all he does,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was in film and television, or philanthropy or

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<v Speaker 1>or business. You know, a relentless commitment to excellence. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody can come close to the work ethic. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the workouts and the way UH he prepared and the

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<v Speaker 1>singular focus on winning and UH and on teamwork, and

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, these are lessons that I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>can learn from in every aspect of their life, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're a professional superstar playing you know at the A's

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest arena and level of professional basketball, or anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, hard, hard work and UH and commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to excellence will pay off. And I think that's speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to us as citizens of l A, as professionals in

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<v Speaker 1>our work lives and in our family, UM, in philanthropic endeavors.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, that's you know, his his consistency of message.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes across everything he does and everything he did.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's that's the legacy I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on. And I think that's one that we can

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<v Speaker 1>all take with us despite him not being with us anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Ellen Kay Q and a Hellen Coast one

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<v Speaker 1>of three point five, and we ask the question first

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<v Speaker 1>color with the right answer. Ellen kay is a popular

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<v Speaker 1>radio host and well known voiceover artist in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been the announcer for the Academy Awards, the Grammys,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Emmy's, and she was also the announcer for

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant's memorial at Staple Center. Throughout the years, she remembers

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Bryant in the hallways of her radio station. Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>has been coming in here to my heart since before

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<v Speaker 1>we were iHeart. So when he first got here, you

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<v Speaker 1>know Vic the Brick. Vic befriended Kobe right away and

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<v Speaker 1>they used to sit on the beach together. Maybe Vick

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<v Speaker 1>has told you the story and talk about life, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Vic brought him by the Rick Dys Show several times.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's early Kobe right. Then Kobe ends up marrying Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a really good friend of Patti Rodriguez, who

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<v Speaker 1>was on our show, and so there was more Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>and that connection, and then you know, Kobe was coming

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<v Speaker 1>into my heart for interviews. I mean up until I

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<v Speaker 1>would say a month before he he passed. There was

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<v Speaker 1>just always a connection. He loved to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>do radio, I know, with you know a M five

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<v Speaker 1>SEV L A sports and he was just always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a regular I would say, so yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Kobe through the years and we always would

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<v Speaker 1>take My son is nineteen now, but one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that that we made a point of doing as

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<v Speaker 1>he was growing up was taking him to see the

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<v Speaker 1>greats when they played. We took him to see David

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham bendit when he was at the Galaxy. Of of

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<v Speaker 1>course he saw Shack play, Luke Robotie, you know, any

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<v Speaker 1>sports great We're right there. We just wanted him to see, like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. So Kobe was one of our one

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<v Speaker 1>of our favorites to go and watch. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>asked what she thought Bryant's legacy might be, Wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is. You know, I love your family, love

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<v Speaker 1>your city, do what you love with all of your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his legacy is is one of excellence. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a reminder that he really loved every

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<v Speaker 1>minute of his life. I think he's a lesson in

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<v Speaker 1>living coming up. The Mayor of Los Angeles says Briant's

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<v Speaker 1>legacy is about grit and love, as the death and

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<v Speaker 1>life of Kobe Bryant continues, m M. Los Angeles County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff alex Via Nueva says he remembers being a deputy

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<v Speaker 1>when he became a big fan of Bryant's and when

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<v Speaker 1>asked about Brian's legacy, I think twofold his legacy probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the fiercest competitors professional sports has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh uh, father figure, someone was really made that switch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from professional career to his family life. And

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<v Speaker 1>he gave everything for his family and he left nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing on the in the tank at all and everything

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<v Speaker 1>he did. Some have felt Bryan's legacy is rooted in basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>while others believe Bryant's legacy comes from being a personal

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<v Speaker 1>role model. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>two legacies that Kobe leaves behind. One is of grit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the grit and greatness that he showed um

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<v Speaker 1>that you just if you want to be great, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta work at it. It doesn't come easy. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if you're talented. Talent A lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>talented in this town. A lot of people are talented

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<v Speaker 1>in this world, but you gotta want it, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>fight for it. And then I think the second, though

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't express it as such, was love. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way he saw him as a family man,

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<v Speaker 1>the way you know, he and Vanessa so so incredibly close,

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<v Speaker 1>and the love of a father for a daughter, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think for all of us that were fathers, which

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<v Speaker 1>just blew us away. I mean he he himself said

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<v Speaker 1>that he was so glad his career ended so that

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<v Speaker 1>he could spend this time watching his girls grow up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the legacy that you leave behind what

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<v Speaker 1>you did and who you love of And what he

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<v Speaker 1>did was all about l a greatness, and what he

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<v Speaker 1>showed was all about l a love. The horrific crash

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<v Speaker 1>that killed Bryant, his daughter, and seven others would cause

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<v Speaker 1>a chain reaction of events that has led or could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly lead to change in TSB. Board member Jennifer Hammondy

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<v Speaker 1>was the head of the go team that arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>the crash site. She spoke to the media and also

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out related safety recommendations. The f a A refused

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<v Speaker 1>to act upon recommendations that have been issued in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>that the f a A A has failed to act on

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk talk about. I was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>Terrain Awareness and Warning System or TAUS, which provides terrain

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<v Speaker 1>information to the pilot. I was asked whether that was

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<v Speaker 1>on this helicopter. We have verified it was not. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand four, the NTSB investigated a crash involving inn

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<v Speaker 1>s SEV S A in Galveston, Texas, which killed ten people.

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<v Speaker 1>We issued a recommendation to the Federal Aviation Administration that

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<v Speaker 1>stated require all existing and new US registered turbine powered

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<v Speaker 1>rotorcraft certificated for six or more passenger seats to be

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<v Speaker 1>equipped with the terrain Awareness and Warning System. They did

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<v Speaker 1>not implement the recommendation. We closed the recommendation as unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>Little did Homindy know at the time that lawmakers were

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. California lawmakers are pushing for the Kobe and

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<v Speaker 1>Gianna Bryant Helicopter Safety Act. It would require all helicopters

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<v Speaker 1>with six or more passengers to have to rain awareness equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Diane Feinstein and Representative Brad Sherman reintroduced this bill

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<v Speaker 1>just one day, but the legislation mirror is exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>recommendations Homini spoke of in her media briefing at the

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<v Speaker 1>scene of the crash. Bryant's wife, Vanessa would weigh in,

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<v Speaker 1>saying she strongly urges the United States Congress passive federal

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<v Speaker 1>law that would improve the safety of helicopters operating in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. She believes there is a chance that Kobe

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<v Speaker 1>and Gianna would still be alive today if their helicopter

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<v Speaker 1>had been equipped with the safety equipment required by this

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<v Speaker 1>pending federal legislation. Another bit of legislation a little closer

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<v Speaker 1>to home, was based on actions of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>deputies who were among the first responders at the scene

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<v Speaker 1>of the crash. Sources tell k cal Mine Tonight Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>Chemist Sheriff's deputies who responded to the crash site are

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<v Speaker 1>accused of taking graphic photos and then sharing them. Were

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<v Speaker 1>told those photos of the scene and victims remains were

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<v Speaker 1>shared with other officials who had not. The incident was

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<v Speaker 1>enough to prompt a lawsuit from Brian's widow for emotional distress.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie County Sheriff Alex Viennueva says he was so disgusted

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<v Speaker 1>by the actions of the deputies he co sponsored legislation

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<v Speaker 1>which would make it a crime for public safety personnel

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<v Speaker 1>to take or share non official pictures of a crash

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<v Speaker 1>site or disaster scene, especially those of a graphic nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond the legal legacies Briant's death leaves behind, there are

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<v Speaker 1>also charities that continue to thrive because of Brian's generosity.

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<v Speaker 1>To date, Briant, along with his wife, donated money or

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<v Speaker 1>volunteered their time to at least ten nonprofit organizations, including

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<v Speaker 1>Stand Up to Cancer, Make a Wish, United Way in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Bryant's

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<v Speaker 1>creative legacy includes a series of children's books and other

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<v Speaker 1>media projects, not the least of which is Dear Basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>the animated short film based on a published letter, a

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<v Speaker 1>film that would also win an oscar and propel Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>into another league. Altogether Free because that's what you do

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<v Speaker 1>when someone makes you feel as alive as you've made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel. You gave a Sushio, Boys, Lay Dream, and

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<v Speaker 1>I Always Love Before. When exploring Bryant's legacy, there were

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<v Speaker 1>many views from people of varying background, but there seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a common theme among them. Perhaps Mike Asner,

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<v Speaker 1>owner of the website Kobe mural dot Com sums it

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<v Speaker 1>up best. His legacy to me is twofold at a

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<v Speaker 1>very high level. It's obviously him as a champion and

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<v Speaker 1>what he did for the city and for Lakers fans

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<v Speaker 1>across the world, and as a die hard Laker fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful for that forever. But his legacy, more so,

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<v Speaker 1>I think today than ever, is his work ethic and

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<v Speaker 1>his mentality. And the thing that has stuck with me

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<v Speaker 1>during this entire process, just talking to fans and artists,

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<v Speaker 1>is it doesn't matter what you do, who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. You can imply what this man did in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, the way he worked, how early he got up,

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<v Speaker 1>how he pushed through during those days when you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to work as hard. That applies to everybody, every ethnicity,

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<v Speaker 1>every background. So for me personally, that's the thing I'll

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<v Speaker 1>always stick out for me is as his true legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>or as Bryant once said, the most important thing is

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<v Speaker 1>to try and inspire people so that they can be

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<v Speaker 1>great at whatever they want to do. I love you always, Kobe.

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<v Speaker 1>The Death and Life of Kobe Bryant is produced by

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