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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three

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Speaker 1: and nine, and today's show, we're chatting with a Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt listener named Luke Brewster, who just so happened

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Speaker 1: to kill the largest deer ever killed by a hunter

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Speaker 1: last year, and we find out what happens when everyday

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Speaker 1: average hunter gets struck by whitetail lightning. While I got

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Speaker 1: you here, before we start the main show, I just

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Speaker 1: want to give you a little heads up. We've got

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Speaker 1: a long introduction today. It's almost a two part podcast.

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Speaker 1: Part two is with Luke Brewster and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this experience he had. Part one is getting a chat

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Speaker 1: with my co was Dan about his South Dakota meal

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Speaker 1: there hunt and a little bit about an upcoming hunt

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Speaker 1: of mine. So if you want to get just to

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Speaker 1: the Luke Brewster portion, you can fast forward about an hour,

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Speaker 1: But if you want to hear our stories, stick around.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one, but a long one, all right.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired Hunt podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: on X and I'm here with my good buddy, my

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Speaker 1: brother from another mother, the man with a bigger beard

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Speaker 1: than me and one less finger, Dan Johnson. I just

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Speaker 1: trimmed my beard too. Does it look sharp? It looks good.

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Speaker 1: My wife actually walked by me and said, you don't

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Speaker 1: look so disgusting anymore. That's good. I had a big one,

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Speaker 1: you know, like the the upper lip. The mustache part

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Speaker 1: all the time, you know, just like the It was

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Speaker 1: a man's beard. It was awesome, but I had to trim.

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Speaker 1: I understand that when are you when are you gonna

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Speaker 1: drop your hammer? Yeah? Oh, I totally understand that. Dan,

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Speaker 1: I got a man's beard. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: When you when are you dropping the hammer? Though? Um?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to drop the hammer? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't drop the hammer last year, for those that

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Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Dan drops the hammer usually

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Speaker 1: right around the rut each year by by by trimming

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Speaker 1: his beard into a food man shoe of sorts, right right.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: dropped it this year. I think I did I drop

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Speaker 1: it on my old cunt. I can't even remember. I

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Speaker 1: don't think, So Okay, no you didn't. Someone someone I'll

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Speaker 1: drop it on November one. Yeah, someone told me I

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Speaker 1: should drop the hammer this year. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: do matching foom hand shoes for the right? Um? Maybe

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Speaker 1: it depends on uh, Like, I don't know. I like it,

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Speaker 1: but now I'm starting to get old. Right, so I

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Speaker 1: so it just looks really it just looks really weird.

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Speaker 1: Well guarantee, if I did it, the whole thing will

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Speaker 1: look really weird. So you don't need to feel bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Dan today, Um, I want to do a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff today. Um, we are gonna talk about a

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Speaker 1: little bit about your South Dcota meal, their hunt. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about my Boundary waters back

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Speaker 1: And that part is it's a different kind of show

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Speaker 1: like chasing interviews with people who killed some huge high

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Speaker 1: biggest deer ever killed by deer hunter ever in the world. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And he basically explained that, yeah, he's a new hunter

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Speaker 1: reading headlines. Right, so you come across the world's largest

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Speaker 1: Mule Deer Hunt. Right, it's pretty pretty simple. But here's

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Speaker 1: if he was If he was an eight pointer, he

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00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: would have been one forty. If he was a ten pointer,

428
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: he probably would have been closer to one. So yeah,

429
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: a really good, a really good white tail that got

430
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: got us both excited. Sun went down, We walked back

431
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: to camp, got put the game playing together, and said, okay,

432
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: well we're gonna go back to that big plateau where

433
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: we were, you know, where we were the next day.

434
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: And so, like I said, got out the put put

435
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: a path together on on X, got out of camp,

436
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: walked all the way in the dark a mile and

437
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: a half to this glassing point and uh got there

438
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: just you know, right before gray light. It was perfect.

439
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: We dropped down off the hill a little way so

440
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: we weren't skylined, and just kind of waited for the

441
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: sun to come up. And right away we started seeing

442
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: white tail does. And what they were doing is they

443
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: were coming off the tops and then going back down

444
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: into these drainages to bed throughout the day. And so

445
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: here's a white tail, a mule deer do over here.

446
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's four mule deer dough over there. Okay, cool.

447
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: So I turned around, I started making some coffee and uh.

448
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: My guy was with like, hey man, that that that

449
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: one looks like a buck. Put the buy nose up.

450
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: Sure enough, it was a really wide, big two by two,

451
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: just a really cool deer. And we're like, well, let's

452
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: follow him, right, So we we watch him grays for

453
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: a little bit up top, drops down out of the um,

454
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, off the top down end. We lose him,

455
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: and now we start putting a game playing together. Right.

456
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm finishing up coffee. We're still seeing some doze

457
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: up there, you know. Okay, here's how we're gonna do this.

458
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna go here, We're gonna do this, blah blah blah.

459
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Put an approach. And as I'm turning around to hand

460
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: him his coffee, he's he's got his buyos up. He's like,

461
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: hey man, there's there's four more. There's four more uh

462
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: deer coming off the top. Look it up, put up,

463
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: pull up the spotting scope and it was four mule

464
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: deer bucks altogether. Still yeah, and there was a i

465
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: want to say, a three by three, a real young one,

466
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: and then two four by four's that were medium range.

467
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: And granted, I'm just I'm telling you this their size

468
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 1: and their age, because just as a reference, we were

469
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: going to shoot whatever was available right away. I mean,

470
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: if if a dough popped up at you know, twenty yards,

471
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: we were going to shoot a dough at twenty yards, right.

472
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: So we watched these four bucks and they were they

473
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: were hustling down because this was about eight o'clock in

474
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: the morning, so they were it was almost like they

475
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: were coming off later than all the other animals. Maybe

476
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: they were bumped, maybe they don't whatever, or maybe they

477
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: just to eight too long. And you know, I decided, hey,

478
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta hustle down. Watched them drop into

479
00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: this drainage. Uh and uh. The last one that came through,

480
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: who was noticeably bigger in size and antlers than all

481
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: of the other ones. So we're just like, hell, if

482
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna go do a stock on something, let's do

483
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: it on this big one, right. So he drops down, um,

484
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: goes behind a couple of rock formations, are like, okay,

485
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: we lost him. This is this is what really impressed

486
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: me about these animals. They are they're smart. This buck

487
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: pops out around a rock formation, walks closer to us.

488
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: And when I mean closer to us, we're I mean

489
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: he's still a mile away, right, but he's walking out

490
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: around this rock formation and he's it's like he's checking

491
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: out the area before he goes to bed. He goes

492
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: back down the trail that he came out in, comes

493
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: up another rock formation. He's looking all around, taking his time.

494
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: Then he goes disappears again, walks around backtracks where he came,

495
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: then drops down into another cut, and then he disappears.

496
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: So it told me that they're thinking differently than what

497
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: how you think, right, You think of a deer, and

498
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: you think or an animal. They can't think like us.

499
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: When they're hungry, they eat, when they're tired, they bed down.

500
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: When they're scared, they run away, right. But this guy

501
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: was saying, I need to check out my surroundings before

502
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: I go to bed down because I want to make

503
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: sure that there's nothing there. So that that thought process

504
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of intrigued me. Yeah. So, um so this big

505
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: buck drops down and um I'm like, okay, let's do this.

506
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: So we talked about how we're going to do this.

507
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: We identified certain parts, certain terrain features between us and

508
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: where he was betting, so that we could creep up

509
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: behind him without any of these other deer seeing us,

510
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: because they eventually all laid down or they all disappeared

511
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: behind things too. We identified the cut, We identified a

512
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: certain is to hide behind or glassing points. Um, we

513
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: identified what we you know, the path that we needed

514
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: to take before we headed over there. We needed to

515
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: drop down, we needed some more water, we needed to

516
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: use the restroom and then make our make our stock

517
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: up into this area. So we get to it. We

518
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: dropped down off the side of the valley that we

519
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: were on, across the creek, come back up the other side,

520
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: hit hit all those identifiable points so we could glass

521
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: going into it. But what we found out was that

522
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: he's deep in this cut, or or so we thought

523
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: he was deep in this cut. And it started getting

524
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: warmer that day. You know, it was like thirty degrees

525
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: in the morning, but it slowly starts to warm up

526
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: to about seventy you know, seventy degrees. We saw him

527
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. Now just remember that we saw him

528
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock, come down, disappear about eight thirty. We

529
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: get to a point, uh this rock for nation where

530
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, let's this is where we need to

531
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: drop our bags. And I said I'm going to go

532
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: up and I'm going to, um, I'm gonna do some glassing.

533
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: He needed to treat some of his water. Um, so

534
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: he's treating his water. I'm doing some glass and I'm like, hey,

535
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: look at this. I said, grab your boat, let's go.

536
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: So I just you know, we were going to do

537
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: paper rock scissors for um to see who was gonna

538
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: shoot first. But it just kind of worked out that

539
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: that I said, dude, let's grab your boat, let's go.

540
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: And then he was going to be the shooter on

541
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: this and I was gonna take lead as far as

542
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: creeping around the corners. I was going to be working

543
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: the binoculars. He was going to be the shooter, you know.

544
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: And and also one thing that I really found out

545
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: about this particular hunt was the teamwork aspect. I really,

546
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: I really, UM, it's it's awesome to see a guy

547
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: go out and do it all by themselves, but it's

548
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: it's so awesome to have another guy to bounce ide

549
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: he is off of. And two for you know, like

550
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: as a shooter, you got a guy running the kind

551
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: of running the uh buyos for you Okay, I don't

552
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: see him. I don't see him. And then as the

553
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: buyo guy, you know that you're you're not a shooter.

554
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: So it's like we each had these roles going into

555
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: it and into the stock that it was like, okay,

556
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: here we are, Um, this is this is my role,

557
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 1: this is your role. And so I would go up

558
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: and take the lead. I would creep around corners and

559
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: I would use the buyos and whatever, and he would

560
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: then I would gesture him and he would come behind me,

561
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and we'd get behind rock formations or trees, work our

562
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: way closer up in these cuts, and uh, you know,

563
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: take a look at what's you know, Okay, I can

564
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: see the shade. Let's look at where he potentially could

565
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: be betting right, and you know all this stuff. Well,

566
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: as we're working our way up the cut that he

567
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: disappeared and we're getting even now with where he dropped

568
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: where we saw him drop down off of this rock formation,

569
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we're here boom boom boom,

570
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: and it sounded like something got up and ran. Well

571
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: what happened was he was actually down lower, bedded under

572
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: a tree, not up in the cut. Oh and but

573
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: the cool thing was that he our wind was in

574
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: our favor. We were higher than him, and it was

575
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: blowing down the drainage, so he never did catch our wind,

576
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: which I think was our saving grace because I can't

577
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: see him at this point. And Dan, the other guy

578
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: that was with me, he said, there he is, there,

579
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: he is. I'm like, how far is he? He gets

580
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: his range finder out, ranges range, range, range, can't get

581
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: a range, stands up a little bit, gets a range

582
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: fifty eight yards, fifty eight yards, perfectly broadside, and he's

583
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: just staring at us, and we're head to toe camo

584
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: right Hoodi's on masks up over our face and he's

585
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: just looking at us like or he's looking the other

586
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: guy like I said, I'm between a tree, so I

587
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: can't see any of this go down. And so he

588
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: gets his err already draws back and and he lets

589
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: it go, and I hear the arrow go and then

590
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: the sound disappears for a split second. And at this

591
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: point I'm like, oh, dude, he missed him, but it

592
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: was and you could hear it just drill him, and

593
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: he's Dan starts to lose his mind. He's like, oh

594
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: my god, like hit right where I was aiming. I

595
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: hit right where I was aiming and I pop out

596
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: around this tree and I'm watching him jump and it

597
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, when a deer is dead,

598
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: right like just gosh and blood coming out of his nose.

599
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: He tries to go back up the same incline, pretty

600
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: steep incline that he came out, and uh, and he

601
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: didn't make it. Gravity was his worst enemy at that point.

602
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: Back legs got wide and he just tumbled off off

603
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the back and it was the big buck that we

604
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: watched drop off that the top and we were both

605
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: in shock, like I can't believe that just happened. This

606
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: was my first ever spot in stock and his first

607
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: ever spot in Stock. Un really any animal, right, we're

608
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: tree stand hunters, and you know, I've done it in

609
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Nebraska before, but not at you know, it's just different terrain,

610
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: different scenarios, and you know, yeah, we we put a

611
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: plan together, but we also got lucky. Right this this

612
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: deer popped up and stood and decided to watch us

613
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: and sit and run away. And he waited around too

614
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: long and the guy drilled him at fifty eight yards

615
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: and um, you walk up on this animal and it's

616
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: it's it's between three fifty and four hundred pounds. It

617
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: is a absolute gigantic bodied animal. Uh, ridiculous um. And

618
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: he's walking up on it and the guy, this is

619
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: why I like this dude. He goes, He goes, I'm

620
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna get so much meat out of this deer. Like

621
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: he was so jacked that he's gonna be able to

622
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of meat off of this off this animal,

623
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: and then he commented on its antlers. But it was

624
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: real cool because it was about the experience. It was

625
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: about the meat he was getting off of this um.

626
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: And then you fast forward man, and we're we clean

627
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: it and we pack it out. Uh. It was I'm

628
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: still in shock over how how it all went down.

629
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It's a gorgeous buck. Oh yeah, it's

630
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a gorgeous buck. Taxidermis. Taxidermist did

631
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: a tooth tooth analysis or not like a full analysis,

632
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: but did a tooth comparison on it. Said it was

633
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: a six and a half year old buck and it

634
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: scored like one fifty one something. We're a meal there, yeah,

635
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: and first ever pack out three and a half miles

636
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: And granted this isn't the Rocky Mountains. Each of us

637
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: had over a hundred pounds in our pack, and uh,

638
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I got to we were walking, you know,

639
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: we dropped down off this drainage hit the creeks, had

640
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: to go up and down a couple you know. For

641
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: the most part it was flat once we got out

642
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: of the hills. But we followed this old rancher rancher

643
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: trail back to the truck three and a half miles

644
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: and I got to the end and I was so

645
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: physically drained that I was getting emotional. It sounds like

646
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: our first cutting down. I know, I know it was.

647
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: It was. It's like every step I took, I could

648
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: feel more energy draining out of my body. It was.

649
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was crazy that that emotion. I

650
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: take the pack off of me and I could not

651
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't stand up. I had to lay down because

652
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: you're you're you have so much weight on for that

653
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: long time in that distance that your body is now

654
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: compensating for that way. And I had to lay down

655
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: and like re establish new balance out of out of

656
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: it all. And I want to say that that it

657
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: We didn't really celebrate. We didn't celebrate the hunt until

658
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: we got the meat back into the cooler in the truck,

659
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: and that is when we celebrated. I mean when he

660
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: when he walked up. You know, we had this big

661
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: old bro hug. We gave each other high fives. But

662
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: then we instantly knew we got to get this meat

663
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: out because we got a lot of work to do.

664
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: And uh we did it. We did it all in

665
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: one trip. And uh because we were debating going back

666
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: and making two trips, you know, for some additional equipment

667
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: like just our bows and a spotting scope and a

668
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: couple other things. But we're like, dude, we have to

669
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: do it because I don't want to come back in

670
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: the middle of the night for this stuff, come back

671
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: and potentially ruin this area again for anything. So we

672
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: uh made it one trip man, And Uh, I want

673
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: to say it is probably one of the most rewarding

674
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: hunting experiences that I've had to date. Just just adding

675
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: that pack out alone, I think the entire experience would

676
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: have been different if we were able to load it

677
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: on a four wheel or a truck. It's that much

678
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: that as the is the best type too fun you

679
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: can ask for. It's so painful in the moment when

680
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: you're done, it's such a great feeling to know you

681
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: did that, and that meat tastes real good after all

682
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: that work. Oh man, I've already I made child with

683
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: it already. And because he gave me, He's like, dude,

684
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: you helped me pack this out. You help me on

685
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: this trip we did. We did this together. He gave

686
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: me almost half of the meat, and I was like, dude,

687
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, I don't need all the meat

688
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: or half of meat. Just give me what you want.

689
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: He wanted to give me half, so I'm not gonna

690
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: turn it down. So we I did. I made one

691
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: of the best pots of chili I ever made U yesterday. Uh, dude,

692
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just geeked. I'm geeked about this trip.

693
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: And uh and I really haven't even shared my experience

694
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: with my buck. I mean, I Okay. So we went

695
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: into town. We needed ice. We stayed in a hotel

696
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: that night. UM, so the first thing in the morning,

697
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: we could uh, you know, the first thing in the morning,

698
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna take it to the processor and then take

699
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: the head to the taxidermist. So we did all those things.

700
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: UM came back out to we had to go back

701
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: to camp, and we made the decision that we're we're

702
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna try to cut these deer off. And the reason

703
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: that we're gonna go back to camp, tear it down,

704
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: come back to the truck, drive around the entire thirty

705
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: three acre, and hit it from the back side is

706
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: because the weather forecast changed on us while we were

707
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: out there, and we're talking this gigantic cold front coming

708
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: through that was gonna dump eight inches of snow, sixty

709
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: mile winds and a um, the real temperature was like

710
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: twenty eight and the wind show would have been below zero,

711
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: and we did not have the proper equipment for those

712
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: kind of conditions. So I said, man, we have to

713
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: we have to make a game plan on how we're

714
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: going to adjust to this. And the game plan was

715
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna stick this out as long as we possibly can,

716
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna leave because we these are dirt

717
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: roads to get back into some of this stuff. We

718
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: identified where the deer were at, and walking up some

719
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: of this terrain in snow or rain or whatever just

720
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: really wasn't an option. And you know, we we each

721
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: have family leans and I don't want to hear that

722
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: story about a guy who necessarily gets lost, but you know,

723
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: tries to tries to do something and be tough but

724
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: then loses the toe because of frost bite or you know,

725
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: we just how fitting though, would that be? That'd be

726
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: a kick ass story, though, wouldn't it? Would you? Would

727
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: you feel like more on balance if you had nine

728
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: fingers and nine toes. If I lost let's see, it

729
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: would have to be on my left foot. If I

730
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: lost the toe on my left foot, it might balance

731
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: me out a little bit. Oh maybe you should have

732
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: done it, dude. That could have been. That could have

733
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: been really what major career, right, but you know what

734
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, we don't know if you've ever had

735
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: to back out because of weather, but it was it

736
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: was a fifty it was it was gonna be a

737
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: fifty plus degree temperature shift. It was a huge storm

738
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: pushing through there. Right Montana got smoked, Coda got smoked,

739
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: and uh, Western m Western South Dakota where we were

740
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: at got smoked, and and we just were like, Okay,

741
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna hunt as long as we possibly can. And

742
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: uh sure enough where you know, uh we when we

743
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: ended up having to back out, but so later that night,

744
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: uh for the day that we dropped all the stuff

745
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: off at the taxidermists, and you know, loaded up on

746
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: some more water, took down camp to move. We're like, okay,

747
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: let's just sleep in the back of the truck tonight.

748
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: So we drive in uh to the back side of

749
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: this uh, this public ground, find the spot to where

750
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: we could drive the furthest and then we were gonna

751
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: walk up to where these deer were coming off. And

752
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: it was a warm day two days in a row,

753
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: so and this front was moving in overnight, and we said, okay,

754
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: let's see, let's get in there a ways and find

755
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: a way to where or find a spot to glass

756
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: to see maybe we can see these deer coming out

757
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: of these drainages to feed at night, and then maybe

758
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: back doorm find a way to get in between them

759
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: and the drainage for for the morning hunt, so that

760
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: way I can shoot one coming down back into bed. Well,

761
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: we start, we pack up, you know, I shoot my

762
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: bow a couple of times, start walking towards the hills,

763
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: get up in the hills a little bit. We bump

764
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: a couple meal your dough. We coup bump a couple

765
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: of white tail dough and UH go about another half

766
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: a mile in and out of the corner of my eye,

767
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: I see like just this white flicker like a deer

768
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: a bug landing on a deer's ear, and it just

769
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: flipped his ear. That's it. And I look over in

770
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: the shadows of one of these hills, which was about

771
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: a hundred yards away, and I just I knew. I

772
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: just had this gut feeling. I knew what it was.

773
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a meal there. I didn't know what

774
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: it was, you know there, And I just said to

775
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: the guy, keep walking, just keep walking. And what we

776
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: found out is that if if these deer see you

777
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and you top, they'll run, but if they see you

778
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: and you keep walking, they will stay there. As you know,

779
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: they feel that if they're still, you're not gonna identify them.

780
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: And so what we did was I just quick put

781
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: the buyos up while I was walking, and it was

782
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: a muletor buck sitting right there, and I said, just

783
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: keep walking, keep walking. So we walked out of his

784
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: line of sight, and then I started my spot or

785
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: my stock. I had him kind of in a position

786
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: to where he could see the hill that he was

787
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: betted on the top of it, and uh he was,

788
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: and he could see if I like, if he was

789
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: going to run away. He would be able to see

790
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: that uh if I if I did something wrong in

791
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: the stock. Uh. So so we get we get there, uh,

792
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I need to loop all the

793
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: way around to the back side because the wind was

794
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: coming over top of this hill to where he could

795
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: smell anything coming over the top up the hill. So

796
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: I had approach approach it from this at an angle

797
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: and not come at the tippy top of the hill,

798
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: but come at an angle. And I walked all the

799
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: way around. I started ranging like bushes and the side

800
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: of the hills and just breaking the entire stock down

801
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: into like ten thirty yard increments, like okay, I need

802
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: to take my time. I need to go ten yards,

803
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: start walking real close. And the closer I got, the

804
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: more um, the more careful I was with every step,

805
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: to the point where I was just slowly setting my

806
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: foot down, not taking a step, but just basically balancing

807
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: on one leg and just slowly putting all the pressure

808
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: down on my foot, just like, not all at one time,

809
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: just slow. And that grass was still really dry and

810
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: the wind was blowing pretty good. And I get within

811
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: I get to the op where I'm just about able

812
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: to peek over, and the wind just stops, stops, and

813
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: I could start hearing and it was this buck breathing.

814
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: I could hear him panting almost. It was like seventy

815
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: five degrees. And I'm just like, no, what what is

816
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: that noise? And then as I'm creeping up over the

817
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: top I had, I dropped my binose, I dropped my

818
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: The only thing I had was my range finder and

819
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: my bow. So I was and I'm creeping over just

820
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: like an inch at a time, inch at a time,

821
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: coming up over top of this ridge. And I see

822
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: his antlers right, and he's he's facing he's kind of

823
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: at an angle, but I'm above him. Probably I ranged

824
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: his head at thirty seven yards, okay, And I get

825
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: up and I get to the top, and now I

826
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: take a little bit more of a step, and now

827
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: I can start. I can see his neck and take

828
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a step. Now I can

829
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: see his body right, he's bedded down still, and he's

830
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: looking away and his ears are pinned straight back. He's

831
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: looking forward. He has no clue I'm there. So I'm

832
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: adjusting my feet ever so slightly, just so I get

833
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: a good base so I can draw my bow right

834
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: and as I adjust my feet, there's this little crack

835
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: or two rocks clicking together, and he kind of perks up.

836
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't stand yet, but he's perked up, so it's

837
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: like something got his attention. And I'm like, I am

838
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: so screwed now, right, I'm gonna have to make this

839
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: happen now, So I draw back and I um he

840
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: said like I said, his head was at thirty seven

841
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: yards stood up right. So he stands up and he's

842
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of glassen, but his body goes back to relax. Right.

843
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: I draw back and at that angle you can't get

844
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: a double lung shot, right because I'm straight above him, right,

845
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: So my goal is to blow out one lung. That's

846
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: that was what I was. That's what I'm thinking. So

847
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: at this angle, you're aiming higher on the body, but

848
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: you're imagining that the arrow is gonna come out right

849
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: between his two front legs, you know what I mean.

850
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: So at that angle, I'm drawn back and it's like

851
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: behind the shoulder, but up higher on the body. And

852
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: as I'm going through my shot process, hold hold, squeeze,

853
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: And as I squeezed the trigger, he takes a backwards

854
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: step I watched his whole body shift in my sight casing,

855
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: and I drill him complete passed through, not where I

856
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: was aiming, but a little bit up higher on the boddie,

857
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: and and he drops down. He drops pops back up

858
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: on the other side of the drainage. Complete passed through,

859
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: and I see blood start to pump out of his

860
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: of his of his shoulder. It's like up on the shoulder,

861
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: and um, let's see up if if you're looking at

862
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: a deer shoulder broadside, it would have been if you

863
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: took the leg kind of right up. But the at

864
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: that angle, I thought, dude, I got one lung. And

865
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: he was bleeding really good. So I run up to

866
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: the and then he disappears. I run up to the

867
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: top of the hill and I'm glass at him and uh.

868
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: The other guy gets his binos and grabs the spotting scope,

869
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: runs to a different point and we're watching him run away,

870
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: and he runs a really long way, and I'm like, dude,

871
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: I got I feel like I got one lung on

872
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: this buck. I feel like I got one lung. And

873
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: so he drops down into this coolie. I guess you

874
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: would call it or this this another little drainage. We

875
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: see him. Oh he's probably he's not. He's probably not

876
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: quite a mile half a mile uh away, and his

877
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: tails flipper in his back legs are getting wide. I'm

878
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: just like, he's gonna bed down right there. He's gonna

879
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna lay down right there, and we're not gonna move.

880
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: And then it was almost like he was shaking it off,

881
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: like he starts to shake his head, and then he

882
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: takes he trots up a little ways and he starts

883
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: to get wobbly, shakes his head, wobbles, gets up on

884
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: the flats again, the plateaus again, and he starts trotting away.

885
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell, you know, Like I feel

886
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: like I got a really good shot. And by this

887
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: time he's a good chunk away. But his entire body

888
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: is red, like from the blood, Like his whole side

889
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: is red. And you don't need to it's not you

890
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: don't need a rocket scientists to say he's hurt. And

891
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: while he's on this flat, you know, his tail he's

892
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: taking these wider, like left right, wider steps, and his

893
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: back ends seems to be going down. His head's going down,

894
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: and then he shakes his head and he's like it's

895
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: almost like he's get pumping himself up to make it further,

896
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: and make it further, make it further. And uh, he

897
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: goes across this flat top, drops back down into another

898
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: drainage and that's where we lose sight at him. And

899
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: what we then me and Dan meet back up and

900
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, you got good blood. Man, he's he's

901
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, dropping. But what you have to realize is

902
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to follow a blood trail in this this

903
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: waist high grass. Right, you've probably killed a deer before

904
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: in CRP or something like that, and it's it's I

905
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: don't care unless you smoke him, and it's just spraying

906
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: out like a super soaker. It's hard to find blood

907
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: in this And and I shot him high so so

908
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: you know it was coming up and then draining down

909
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: his side. But I and I wasn't a percent sure

910
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: of where the exit wound was at, but I was assuming,

911
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: oh ship man, you know I passed through. He's gonna bleed,

912
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna leak. And uh, the last thing I remember

913
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: is him wobbling going down into a drainage. I said,

914
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna find him. Man, he's gonna go

915
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: lay down right in there and we're gonna find him. Well,

916
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: it's starting to get dark at this point, and so

917
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, let's hustle up. Let's go to this drainage. So, um,

918
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: I want to get a good idea. He stopped in

919
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: this one area. That's just this one area where there

920
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: was hardly any grass, real low grass. So we make

921
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: it to that point, I find a big pile of

922
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: blood and uh. And then we you know, through through

923
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: marking a uh, I guess a location through my blocies.

924
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we gotta make it to that tree. Well,

925
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: in Iowa, if you shoot an animal and it jumps

926
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: on to private ground, you have the right to go

927
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: do that. In South Dakota, you do not have the

928
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: right to do that. You have to have landowner permission

929
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: to hop the fence and go find this animal. Well,

930
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: this buck ends up crossing a fence and that's where

931
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: the track job stopped. And so from this point I

932
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: started to get freaked out. I'm I'm like, okay, I

933
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: gotta find landowners. We're looking at our phones. Landowner, landowner, landowner, uh,

934
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: landowner camp you know, and and obviously nobody lives around

935
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: the where these ranches are at right, all they are

936
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: is crop ground or like these circles, but there's nobody

937
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: that lives on them. So I'm texting. We're looking looking

938
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: for phone numbers, and it's hard to find a phone number.

939
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: So we're like, okay, let's go back to the truck.

940
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Let's wait overnight and then start up. First thing the morning,

941
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: we go back. Um, the first thing we do when

942
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: we wake up is knock on a couple of doors.

943
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: Nobody's home. It's like it's almost like there's summer houses

944
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: for people when they're doing when they're working cattle. And

945
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: so then we go down this another couple of miles.

946
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: Finally we get ahold of a guy and he's like, yeah, okay,

947
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: well that's not my property, but I have his phone number.

948
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: I will call him and I will let him know

949
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be on his property looking for the deer.

950
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: If you run into anybody, you tell him. I I

951
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: said it was cool. I'm like, hey man, that's good

952
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: enough for me, okay. And because this dude's property bordered

953
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: another guy's property, he said he was gonna make a

954
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: phone call for us. So we go back to the

955
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: drainage that we saw him in. Start the very top

956
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: and we're each on both sides. We can't find blood

957
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: because it's that waist tie, tumbleweed grass. Again, hop the

958
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: fence and there's some blood and we're following his tracks,

959
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: fresh tracks, following his blood and come to a point

960
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: where we see it looks like his knee went down

961
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: into the dirt like he was getting ready to lay down.

962
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: All right. One thing I did not tell you is

963
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: at as we're cooking supper at the truck, coyotes start

964
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: going off and they're going off close to where we

965
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: left the blood trail. They were going off. I bet

966
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: you there was one yards from the truck going off

967
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: and they were going off for a while and we

968
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: could hear him move, um go back there. And then

969
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, long story short, we started grid searching lots

970
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: and setting up in binoculars. We we did that for

971
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: seven over seven hours looking for this thing. Could not

972
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: find him. And I just was like, are you kidding me?

973
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Like I felt like I drilled this animal and I

974
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: should find him. You know, did the did we go

975
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: into aggressive to this drainage? And even though he was

976
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: on public or private ground, he saw us coming, or

977
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: did the coyotes bump him? You know, you start having

978
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: that doubt and like, what did I did I screw

979
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: up my shot? What what happened? And I don't I

980
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: still honestly don't know what kind of what what went

981
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: wrong in this whole scenario. I think it was just

982
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: a kind of a combination of everything not being able

983
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: to track him right away, coyotes came through. Um maybe

984
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: when he shifted his body weight backwards he took It's like,

985
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: so he stood up, but he was still in abedded stance,

986
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: so that so to get more of a comfortable stance

987
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: he took a backwards to I don't know, And it

988
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: all kind of happened while I was pulling the trigger.

989
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: I shot maybe higher up on the body, but I

990
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: felt like, dude, that's still lung, one lung I got.

991
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, deer can die on one lung, and you know,

992
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: and then here we are with no meal there just

993
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: absolute you know, and then you're just in doubt the

994
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: whole You think about it over and over and over

995
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: and over and over and over, like every day. I

996
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: still think about it. The entire ride home, I was

997
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: thinking about it and just it sucks, man, because it

998
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: was a really good buck. I mean it was not.

999
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't as big as the other guys, but it

1000
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: was a four by four really big body from what

1001
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: I could tell. And I was completely calm. And I'll

1002
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: tell you why. In the stock is because in a

1003
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 1: stock like this, it's not like in a tree stand

1004
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: where a deer comes by and you have to draw

1005
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: and shoot it. I'm not even thinking about I'm not

1006
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: even thinking about the the the shooting the deer at

1007
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: this point because my mind is and you can't even

1008
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: shoot the deer until you get to it, until you

1009
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: can see it. So I'm thinking about every step, I'm

1010
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: cognizant of my wind direction, right, You're all these other

1011
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: things you're thinking about except the shot until you need

1012
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: to make the shot. So you know, I drew back

1013
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: and I wasn't even nervous. It was like I was practicing,

1014
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: you know. I wasn't even thinking that this was the

1015
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: very first buck meal here I was ever gonna shoot.

1016
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about that. I was thinking about

1017
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: like the steps, and it was like I was practicing.

1018
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: That's how calm I was. So I don't want to

1019
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even have buck fever. And I don't know,

1020
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, just ship. So so would

1021
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: you do anything different? No, Like that's what I'm saying, Like,

1022
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking back at this, you know, I said,

1023
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I was looking back at this, and I was saying, Okay,

1024
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: so I put a I put a marginal shot on

1025
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: my white till last year, right, but eventually I found him. Right.

1026
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I did not want that to happen to this year.

1027
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: So I was and I was, I was practicing good.

1028
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: You know, my boat was tuned in. I think, if anything,

1029
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: I may have took a little bit of a higher

1030
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: angle try to get up the hill just a little

1031
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: bit more on him to where I to where I

1032
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: was even shooting more straight down on him and not

1033
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was an angle, but not like

1034
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: a straight down angle. So if I would have hit

1035
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: the same place that I hit with this deer, it

1036
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: just would have went almost straight down into his body,

1037
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was like shooting

1038
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: straight down. So you think back at that, and I

1039
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: don't think I did anything wrong. I honestly don't think

1040
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: I did anything wrong other than that buck shifting while

1041
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: I was pulling while I was going through my my

1042
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: trigger squeeze process. Animals, wild animals you can never you

1043
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: can never know for sure what they're gonna do, how

1044
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: they react to things. I mean, that is the always

1045
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: unknown variable that can that can screw up the best

1046
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: leag plans. It really sucks because I've had some critics

1047
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: in the past, you know what. I know we talked

1048
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: about it once about you know that someone when you

1049
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: asked me on my white tail hunt, Dan, would you

1050
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: take that shot again? I said, yeah, dude, I'd take

1051
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: that shot again on a on a hard quartering away shot.

1052
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: And I had some critics, you know, leave comments about that,

1053
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I don't want to think about it,

1054
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: but it made me think about, like, Jesus, I'm gonna

1055
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: get shipped on for this because there it's a deer

1056
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I didn't find and I shouldn't have taken the shot.

1057
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, I don't think I did anything wrong. Uh,

1058
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, this is my first ever spot in stock

1059
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: so this is a completely new experience for me. I

1060
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: felt I did everything that I was supposed to do.

1061
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: Maybe at the moment of truth, I should have just

1062
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: chilled for one more second. But with that, with that

1063
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: the rock making a noise and he perked up. I thought,

1064
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: oh my in he's he's tense, but he's kind of

1065
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: body language kind of calmed down a little bit. Again.

1066
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: I just don't want him to bolt out of there

1067
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: and and lose an opportunity. So it's right here in

1068
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: front of me and I took it. What do you

1069
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: take from this moving forward? Then? For your next hunt?

1070
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: Do you is there anything different that you're Are you

1071
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna practice in any kind of way differently? Are you

1072
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna think about things differently? Or or is it you

1073
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: know what like you just said, you know, like I

1074
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: did everything I could have, I'm just going to try

1075
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: to get better in all facets and try again. Yeah,

1076
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: I will definitely be practicing different between now and next year,

1077
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: because I'm definitely going on the sun again. Um, I'm

1078
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to practice shooting out of my treehouse

1079
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: straight down on targets or on my deck or even

1080
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: out of a tree stand or something to simulate these

1081
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: really steep, awkward angles that you know you put yourself in.

1082
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: Not every not everything's broadside I mean, And to be

1083
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: honest with you, uh, I think that that's how most

1084
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,479
Speaker 1: of the deer are shot out there, or or you know, yeah,

1085
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: locate them, let them get to bed, and then shoot

1086
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: them in their beds. Yeah, get above them and shoot

1087
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: them in their beds. So I guess just more practice

1088
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: in that type of scenario, right, Yeah, that's as a

1089
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: unique kind of shot compared to you know what you

1090
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: typically plan on for elk obviously not elk, and for

1091
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: deer white tailed there too. So yeah, that's a good

1092
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: thing to be thinking about. So what about this next year?

1093
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: Let's say you don't rack up enough Brownie points or

1094
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: works busy, or you've got a sixth kid or something

1095
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: like that, and you only can pick one Western hunt

1096
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: for next year? Do you go elk hunting again? Or

1097
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna do this meal their hunt again? That's

1098
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: a tough one, man, Um, I'm not getting any younger,

1099
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: so I should probably do an elk hunt just from

1100
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: physical from a physical standpoint, but there's better odds I

1101
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: feel going after meal here. Now, I honestly think that

1102
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: we had an exceptional trip out there. Uh. You know,

1103
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of guys reach out to me

1104
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: and say, hey, dude, congratulations on your trip. It sounds

1105
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: like you guys got into them. It doesn't happen like

1106
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: that every year, so be thankful for that. And I

1107
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: and I kind of put it all into perspective where

1108
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're right, we ran into it, so we

1109
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't be expecting the same thing to happen next year. Um.

1110
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: But what I will say is this was a very

1111
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: fun hunt. And I if I had to, if you

1112
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: were to ask me right now and then ask me again,

1113
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: I think this summer it would probably change. But as

1114
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: of right now I'd probably go on this mule of

1115
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: your hunt again. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you had a

1116
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: good experience. I am sorry that the the end moments

1117
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: did not go as we would all want them to.

1118
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: But I trust that you will. You'll you'll come out

1119
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: of it learn something and on the next year. Yeah yeah, buddy, Hi, Uh,

1120
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm I'm jacked up. Uh Like

1121
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: now now I just turned the page to white tails

1122
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: onward upward. Uh. I will keep I will keep my

1123
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: update real short. Um, because you gave you can't you

1124
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: give me more than I was expecting on the cliff notes.

1125
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: But it's good stuff, so I will take it. Um

1126
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: as a hell of a hunt. Um, I will simply

1127
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: just set the stage then and then our next episode

1128
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: you'll get to hear from us after the hunt how

1129
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing goes. But but yeah, tomorrow night, me

1130
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: and Further and our buddy Andy are taken off for

1131
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: northern northern northern northern Minnesota, right there on the Canadian border,

1132
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: into the Boundary Waters Willerness area, and we're driving through

1133
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: the night Tuesday night. We're gonna get there Wednesday morning,

1134
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: get our rental canoes and our wall tent and our

1135
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: wood burning stove and a few other pieces of equipment,

1136
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: and then driving to our entry point. We're gonna load

1137
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: up the canoes all of our gear for a week,

1138
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: and we're gonna paddle a river for something like four

1139
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: to five miles, and then we're gonna get to a lake,

1140
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: and then there's a chain of lakes from there that

1141
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: we can either set up camp on the first one,

1142
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: hunt around there, or portage to another lake. Explore that

1143
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: portage to another lake, check that out, and um, and

1144
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna see if we can survive it. We're gonna

1145
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: see if we can find dead deer. Um. Anything legal

1146
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: is our goal. So I think it's gonna be tough

1147
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: to find any deer, So we're gonna have realistic expectations

1148
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: on that front. Have you talked or looked at any

1149
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: information about success rates in this area with archer equipment.

1150
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: Basically it's relatively unheard of. Like anyone we've talked to

1151
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you're gonna go in bow season. Um,

1152
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: it's a very low success rate during gun season and UM.

1153
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: But the only people we've found that actually do this

1154
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: often they do it during rifle. UM. So we're expecting

1155
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: zero pressure with the bow. Um. But you know it's

1156
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: it's something like three to four deer per square mile

1157
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: or something like that. Four or five deer square mile

1158
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: is like the estimated deer density, So very low deer numbers. Um,

1159
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: Andy May you're going with no, Andy Bradley. UM. So

1160
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna try and find anything, and we're

1161
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: gonna fish in the morning and try to try to

1162
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: feed ourselves with walleye for dinner or whatever we can catch,

1163
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: and uh, scouting hunt in the afternoons and maybe even

1164
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: shoot a grouse or two or your a small game

1165
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: license and kind of do a a cast blast and

1166
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: white tail hunt. So it is going to be a

1167
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: full sweet experience, that's for sure. So how many acres

1168
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: are you gonna be tooling around in? Oh? Man? I

1169
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: mean it's like a I think it's a. It's a

1170
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: one point one million acre wilderness area and like wilderness

1171
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: with the capital W. So it's like an official wilderness,

1172
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: which means no mechanized travel, So you can't take motorized boats,

1173
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: you can't drive into it, you can't even take a

1174
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: mountain bike into it. Um, you gotta go by foot

1175
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: or canoe and um so rugged terrain. It's it's you know,

1176
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: deep deep big woods and rocky kind of terrain. It's

1177
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: this Precambrian Canadian shield rock features down in that area.

1178
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: So you've got these rocky islands and rocky shorelines and

1179
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: beautiful glacial lakes, lots of fish and uh a few

1180
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: deer strolling around inside of it all. There's lots of

1181
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: moose and bears and wolves. Um. So we'll be right

1182
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of it and just trying to just

1183
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out as we go. So big, big,

1184
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: big cold front snow and stuff came through over the weekend,

1185
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be petering out just about

1186
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: the time we get there. So we're not sure if

1187
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really wet and nasty or if we'll

1188
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: be able to get out of there just afterwards and

1189
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: it'll clear up and be nice. But it's gonna be cold,

1190
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: I know that. So we got a wall tent and

1191
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: wood burning stove that will be all set up in

1192
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: there and try to try to stay warm and try

1193
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: to stay dry. We gotta be careful getting in and

1194
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: out of our canoes, and if you shoot something loading

1195
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: up the canoe with all your hunting gear and a deer,

1196
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: that'll be different. Um, So it's gonna be Trev, be

1197
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: safe and um get out of there in one piece

1198
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: and withal ton of our toes. Yeah, absolutely, Man, is

1199
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: this uh? Is there any uh cell coverage out there

1200
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: or it's all going to be like in the dark.

1201
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: Maybe a satellite phone. Well I think pretty sure there's

1202
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: no cell service, so it's just gonna be with our UM.

1203
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: I've got one of those in reach explorers so I

1204
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: can like send out a text message to just let

1205
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: my wife know I'm safe. And then I've got has

1206
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: one of s O S button and stuff. The ship

1207
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: really hits the fan and we need some kind of

1208
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: emergency help. We can we can radio for that essentially,

1209
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: but pretty much on our own. So we let me

1210
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: give you some advice. This is you probably already have

1211
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: thought about this, but if you need to transfer something

1212
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: from one canoe to it next, take the extra time

1213
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: and go to the shore to do it, even if

1214
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: it's something simple, because I've been on a lot of

1215
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: canoe trips in the day, not for hunting, but you know,

1216
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: just for recreation, and even something as simple as handing

1217
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: somebody something could drop and then you lose that. Yeah, yeah,

1218
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna be safe. I think we're not

1219
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna try to take any chances of that because the

1220
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: temperatures we're gonna have. You know, if you get wet

1221
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: and then it's degrees or thirty degrees or whatever, it's

1222
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: gonna be. Um, that's not a good situation. You build fires. Yeah,

1223
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: so we're gonna we can build a fire and we

1224
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: can have that wood burning stove piping in our in

1225
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: our wall time, so we'll bill get dry. Um. But

1226
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: you just you don't want to put yourself in that

1227
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: position either way. So we'll do the full scoop. Um

1228
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: In the next podcast, we'll explain the research we've done,

1229
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: all the work that went into putting this together, and

1230
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: our game plan and our strategy and how we're doing it.

1231
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 1: We'll cover all that. Um, I'll get a shout out

1232
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: right now to further he did a wonderful job. I

1233
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: kinda with all the other things I got going on,

1234
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: I kind of asked him if he would be willing

1235
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 1: to play point on on doing a lot of research

1236
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: and talking to people and lining up our gear and everything,

1237
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: and did a wonderful job. So kudos to my buddy Josh,

1238
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: and UM, hopefully have a really good story for you

1239
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: in a week. And I'm jack for you. Man. These

1240
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: are the kind of trips that I really like you're

1241
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: because you're essentially disappearing. It's gonna be good just to

1242
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: get back into nature and not have to worry about

1243
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: the phone, not have to worry about social media, just

1244
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: gonna very fully experienced this play in these animals and uh,

1245
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: in our pursuit for him. So it's gonna be a

1246
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: very Oh it's Ted Nugent likes to say it will

1247
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: cleanse the soul, So that's the game plan. Good job, man. Well,

1248
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm Jack for you. Thank you, sir, and I think

1249
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: this might be our longest intro ever, so thanks for

1250
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: sticking with us, folks. This is a long podcast here,

1251
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: but it's a good one, we gotta really it's almost

1252
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: a two part you can almost split it up in

1253
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: two podcasts, really, but um, I'm gonna stick them together.

1254
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: We'll get that great meal dere store in the front.

1255
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a really interesting kind of almost a

1256
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: human interest piece here on the back half as we

1257
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,879
Speaker 1: hear how Luke dealt with this once in a lifetime

1258
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: experience and um, and then we'll get back at you

1259
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: next week. So let's shut this down here. Let's jump

1260
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: over to my chat with Luke Brewster and uh I'll

1261
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: chat with you all soon on the Boundary Waters front.

1262
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: All right with me on the line now is Luke Brewster.

1263
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Luke, Hey, thanks for having me on. Hey,

1264
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we can have this chat. Um. It's

1265
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: it's a unique chat for me even today because what

1266
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm most when I don't know if i'm most excited,

1267
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: but what makes you such an interesting guest to me

1268
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: is what you just told me a couple of minutes

1269
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: ago before we started recording this whole thing, which was

1270
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: that you listened to Wired to Hunt as one of

1271
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: the first things that helped you figure out how to

1272
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: how to get into bow hunting and stuff, and and

1273
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: that is like the coolest thing I can hear. Anytime

1274
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: I get to meet someone who can point to Wired

1275
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: to Hunt as something that's helped them or that kept

1276
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: them excited through the through the season or whatever, that

1277
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: is like the best thing for me. So I'm just

1278
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: stoked that this has been a helpful thing for you

1279
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: in the past. And uh, and glad that now it's

1280
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of led to you having some cool hunting experiences.

1281
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: That's that's awesome. So thank you for for doing that,

1282
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: for listening and for kind of following along with what

1283
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: I've got going on. Yeah, definitely, I mean, I gotta

1284
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: thank you for putting all the information and doing everything

1285
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: you do, uh for us, Uh, some of the newer

1286
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: guys that are looking to get into it. I mean, uh,

1287
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: So it started when I got out of the marine

1288
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: corps um it was getting too cold to fish. I'm

1289
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: an avid fisherman, so uh, I started hunting with the

1290
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: buddy and I was looking for more information you know,

1291
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: after I picked up a bow, um kind of gather

1292
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: more information on on how to really get into it,

1293
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: and it stumbled up across your podcast, and uh, I

1294
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: just listened to as moon as I could head out

1295
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: to uh Illinois, and uh I started un out there.

1296
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: So the rest is history. Huh Um. So you were

1297
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: were messaging on Instagram at one point and you said

1298
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: that you were you were even following along with my

1299
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 1: whole holy field saga. Uh's familiar with that? Anything I

1300
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: did wrong? Do you have any advice for me? Because

1301
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: you obviously have figured out how to get it done

1302
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: with a buck after multiple years? What did I do

1303
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: wrong on that one? So? Man, to be honest, I

1304
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: pretty much just got lucky. I mean I had you know,

1305
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: I did everything right there best to do. But in

1306
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: terms of kind of patterning him, honestly, I just got

1307
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: kind of lucky. And he wasn't He wasn't close to

1308
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: where I mean, it was pretty close, but probably like

1309
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: a mile away from where we had pictures overnight. So

1310
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Let's let's get into Let's set the stage

1311
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: for this whole thing first. So, so you you got

1312
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: into bow hunting after the marine corps. So you're an

1313
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: adult kind of onset bow hunter, right, and you're picking

1314
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: up stuff from podcasts and learning things as you go. Um,

1315
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: when did you when did you decide to start traveling

1316
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: out of state to go to Illinois because you you're

1317
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: you're from for in your right, right right, and so

1318
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: you start heading the Illinois just looking for a different experience.

1319
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: You're hoping to see more mature bucks or what's what

1320
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: led to you starting to make that trip? Okay, So, um,

1321
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: the first year I went hunting, my dad used to

1322
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Um, I never went with them.

1323
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: Kind of too young, I guess, but so my dad

1324
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of helped me out. Uh. We we have a

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01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: farm land out in Illinois, and I have about forty

1326
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: acres of wooden and then uh, the family that does

1327
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 1: my dad's farming, he has about a hundred and sixty

1328
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: acres wooded and it's the agriculture country out you know,

1329
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: in Illinois where I hunt. So it's pretty much hunting

1330
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of wind breaks and stuff out there. But

1331
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: after the question, Um, I hunted here in Virginia like

1332
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: late season with my dad's rifle and kind of trying

1333
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: to figure out you know, ways I can hunt other

1334
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: places and uh plays of access more and more places

1335
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: to hunt, so I can go out and try to

1336
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: figure things out, you know, less pressured. And so I

1337
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: started looking at the archery and I went to a

1338
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: few shops and picked up a few bows and shot

1339
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: a shot a bunch and kind of got some tips

1340
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: from the archery shop on you know, for him and everything.

1341
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: And uh so I ended up buying one late season

1342
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 1: that year, and then the next year, you know, the

1343
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: old summer leading up to the next season, UM, I

1344
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: had been talking to my dad about wanting to go

1345
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: up to Illinois to hunt the family land, and so

1346
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: I started playing that out and talked to the farmer's

1347
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: family and uh set that up to go out there

1348
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: for um for that season. And ended up going out

1349
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: there and meeting the guys that at home with out

1350
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: there now, and we just hit it off and really

1351
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: quick right off the bat. And they say kind of

1352
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: took me under their wing because my dad had given

1353
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: them permission to to hunt our land way back in

1354
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: a little so they it was right too, kind of

1355
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: invite me in and and uh let me hump hump

1356
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: with him. That's great. So was the How many years

1357
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: did you go to Illinois before you killed this buck?

1358
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Or was it is it that first year you got

1359
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: to go down there? Um? It was actually I've been

1360
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: there twice before, h this previous season. So the first

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01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: year I went out there, I ended up getting a

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: good lesson on U on archery and you know your

1363
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: angle through your shot. Um. I had a nice buck

1364
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: coming in on me. I got, uh, got a little

1365
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: bit of buck fever going on when he came in

1366
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: and the way that uh he came in, he kind

1367
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: of came like a right under the stand pretty much,

1368
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: and I didn't think about the exit of the arrow,

1369
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: and I ended up one longing um. And uh so

1370
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: that was my first bad experience, uh with bow hunting,

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: which taught me a valuable lesson and one that I

1372
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: think about every time, you know, I go back on

1373
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: a on a deer. Yeah. So what did you do

1374
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: from that point on? Then? I kind of looking into

1375
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: a little bit of your background and stuff. It seems

1376
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: like you take archery pretty serious now, a lot of practice.

1377
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: I saw you talking about practicing even out to a

1378
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Um. It sounds like you really put a

1379
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: lot of work into into figuring that all out, Is

1380
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: that right? Yeah? So another you know, another outlet that

1381
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: I really got into was John Dudley has not gone

1382
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: t d um. He's like, you know, he's the guru

1383
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: of archery real world. I feel like, um, so, yeah,

1384
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: I'd paid a lot of sense to him and watched

1385
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot of his stuff, and uh, me and my

1386
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: buddies a big challenging ourselves out, you know, shooting at

1387
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: different distances, just having fun and and that's where I

1388
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: got no kind of longer range shooting and and uh

1389
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: and just having fun with it, honestly. Yeah, gotta believe, right,

1390
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: I've I've always imagined and thought from my experience that

1391
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: if you get competent shooting extremely long ranges while just practicing,

1392
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 1: it makes those closer thirty forty yard shots or even

1393
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: twenty yard shots, makes those so easy or easier at

1394
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: least in the moment when you know you can stretch

1395
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: it out in practice, right, it just prepares you even

1396
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: That's that's my whole philosophy is you know, you shoot

1397
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: out father, I feel a lot easier about the other shots. Yeah.

1398
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: So you you start heading to Illinois, You've got some

1399
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: new friends now that they are hunting that farm with you,

1400
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: and this massive buck shows up on trail camera and

1401
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: as I don't understand it, it was for several years

1402
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: they were getting some pictures. He was a giant, so

1403
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: you knew this this giant buck was out there. He's

1404
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: back and he's obviously next level. What we're thinking, what

1405
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: were you and your buddies thinking when you saw this

1406
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: buck on trail camera and you knew that you might

1407
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: be hunting him. Was this something that was exciting? Was

1408
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: it stressful? I'm wondering because like just for me, you know,

1409
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: in Michigan, I had the biggest buck I've ever been

1410
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: able to hunt in Michigan showed up last year and

1411
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: it was really exciting. But at the same time, I

1412
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, it was like a whole

1413
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: new level of pressure. This like kind of once in

1414
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: a lifetime opportunity for me here in Michigan. And that

1415
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: was a very different experience for me. Did that feel

1416
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: and you know, different at all for you when you're

1417
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: have that kind of buck around? Yeah, so I'm more excited,

1418
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like almost I thought that

1419
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: about it, like kind of winning the lottery, Like all

1420
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: these thoughts run through my head like what if I

1421
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: did this? You know what, you know, what would happen? Like,

1422
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 1: you know it would it be life changing or whatever.

1423
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't really nervous because honestly, I didn't really think

1424
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: i'd ever see him pretty much. Uh stayed nocturnal of

1425
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: the previous years, and my buddy justin yet a shot

1426
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: at him the previous year, but there deflected off the

1427
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: branch and he didn't he didn't sell up anymore. But yeah,

1428
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: I was honestly just more excited and just the thought

1429
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: of you know, being able to put a tag on

1430
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: him um kept me up quite a few nights, Yeah,

1431
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: I bet especially the days leading too. But it wasn't

1432
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: really too nervous because you know, I just it's one

1433
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: of those things that if he comes around, he comes around.

1434
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, and you know, I'm still enjoying the outdoors,

1435
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: that's a good attitude to have. Well, then it happens,

1436
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: right the two eighteen seasons there. Let's start, like, you

1437
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: make your trip out there. Walk me through what happened

1438
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: once you arrived in Illinois for trip um, walk me

1439
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: through the story? All right? So I headed out there

1440
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: is November one and Uh, it was pretty much right

1441
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: in the whole entire drive out there. It's about an

1442
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: hour drive from where I'm at in Virginia too to

1443
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: eastern Illinois, and uh, so it's right in the whole time.

1444
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, in my head, I'll actually listen

1445
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: to your podcast US on the way out there, like

1446
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: I do every year. And then UM, I get Uh,

1447
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking in my head, you know you're talking to

1448
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: I forget what podcasts you're um, but uh, what guests

1449
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: you had on what was going on? But I just remember,

1450
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know, there's gonna be a lot of

1451
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: deer coming around restening scrapes, so uh, you know, after

1452
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 1: the frame, and so I was hoping it would continue

1453
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: raining up until the next day when I could actually

1454
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: get out on and uh, I get to Illinois, it's

1455
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: still like kind of drizzling. Um. I meet up with

1456
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: Justin he got off of work, and we right around

1457
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: uh and uh pulled some cards from the cameras and

1458
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: just talked about a lot of things, mainly about my

1459
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: fassa and and how the weather is going to be

1460
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: um for the next week or so. And then we

1461
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: were talking about stand locations and everything and we head

1462
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 1: back to the house he went, He went to his house.

1463
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 1: I stayed at the off his uh his father the

1464
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: law's house. So later on that evening, UM he checked

1465
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: some of the He checked some of the cameras. UM.

1466
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,839
Speaker 1: I believe he had some more pictures to move faster

1467
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: on them from the last time he checked. When we

1468
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: first got pictures of them were picking up stands. That night,

1469
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: I chose to stay on my forty acres. They sat

1470
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: closer to where they had pictures of them. Justin Ron,

1471
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: there's the two uh sun and laws of the farmer.

1472
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: They chose to sit pretty close to where they had

1473
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: pictures of them. Um. I decided to say on my

1474
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: forty acres just because they had been you know, I

1475
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: didn't want to put any pressure on them, but you know,

1476
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: so like their spots, like they've been the ones running

1477
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: the cameras and hanging stands and cutting steed and lanes

1478
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: and everything, you know, while I'm here in Virginia. So

1479
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I just thought it was right that uh, you know,

1480
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't try to intrude, you know that makes sense. Um,

1481
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: But I out on my forty acres and I was

1482
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I had a few days come in that morning. What

1483
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: was that spot? Like, by the way, what was the

1484
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:14,839
Speaker 1: spot you picked? What was the setup? So the morning

1485
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: I shot him in the evening, but the morning where

1486
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: I sat, it was just um. It was actually um,

1487
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: pretty quarly a dough bed, um pretty much almost I

1488
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe thirty yards from a big dough bed,

1489
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: a bought over of a grown drafs and um kind

1490
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: of some immature trees. I had a few days, about

1491
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: like four or five days, come in that morning, coming

1492
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: coming to bed, and no box was trailing them. So

1493
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: it's a nice spot. It's like it's gotten nice to

1494
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: creak that run through. It makes the uge shape and um,

1495
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: a lot of fear will cross the creek and come

1496
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: over and come up this embankment and come in check

1497
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: the dough bed. So quite addistance from where you know M.

1498
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: Fassa his area was. But yeah, I I just figured

1499
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: i'd sit there. You know, if good sized buck came to,

1500
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: like I had in my head that you know, I

1501
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't be able to. I didn't think I

1502
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: was gonna be putting eyes on my fasta. I was

1503
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: just gonna shoot the first mixture buck I saw. And

1504
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: uh so that morning. I didn't you know, I just

1505
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: saw the days, Um about four or five days come

1506
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: into the bedding area and and uh uh settle in

1507
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,520
Speaker 1: in there, and about like ten o'clock in the morning's

1508
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: in thirty we decided to get down and and uh,

1509
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: we'll get some breakfast and discuss some more stands and

1510
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: meet up with Ron and and uh talk with him

1511
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: and Justin. So we go. We go to breakfast. Um,

1512
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: then at a cafe it's kind of about like twenty

1513
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: minutes away, and uh, I forget what Ron and uh

1514
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: and uh and Justin how to do? I think that

1515
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: would be something out their houses or something, and so, um,

1516
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: well we'll go back to at breakfast. So we're discussing

1517
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: FADI locations and um, Justin had pointed one out to

1518
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: me on the map that I didn't have marked on

1519
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 1: my on my GPS, and uh he said, the stand

1520
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: has been there for about five years, and uh, they

1521
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: haven't moved it and they're talking about taking it down,

1522
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: but nobody stating about five years or so. So um

1523
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: that one kind of stuck out to me. Had good

1524
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: win for that day or that evening sit. Um. I

1525
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: kept that in the back of my mind. So after that,

1526
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: after breakfast, um I headed back to uh back back

1527
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: to the farmer's house and was getting ready for the

1528
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: evenings it and we're all techning each other with which

1529
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: stands we're gonna go to. Believe, Ron says, first he

1530
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: wanted to sit push to where we had pictures of them,

1531
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: like camera where move faster was moving. Then UM I

1532
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: picked next, and I would pick the same standard Ron

1533
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: pick because I was confused on what Standy was talking about,

1534
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: and Justin said, hey, uh Ron, you know Ron it

1535
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: says that one. So I I was thinking about what

1536
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: my next move was, and I told the guys, ay,

1537
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go sitting that standard had been sat in

1538
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: in five years, and it's like a mile south of

1539
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: where they are at. They had good wind. It was

1540
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: like a northwest wind, kind of a creek bottom, perfect

1541
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: wind for for movement golden uh west to east, east

1542
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: to west. Yeah, I told him I was gonna sit

1543
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: in that stand there. They're fine with that, Justin says

1544
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: another stand that was kind of close to where Ron

1545
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: was sitting. I get out there a little bit earlier

1546
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: than them, like about an hour hour hour and a

1547
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: half or so, so I pull up the access road.

1548
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: I parked my truck, I get dressed, start making my

1549
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: way towards the kind of across the corn field, making

1550
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: a bee line straight for the woods. And uh, because

1551
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't been to that stand before, I was kind

1552
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: of confused as the way it was at. And I'm

1553
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: looking at my GPS. I'm looking up in the trees

1554
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: and there was actually hit and in this beautiful offsade

1555
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: orange tree that was just wicked. It had vines everywhere's

1556
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: awesome concealment. And uh. I actually walked across the tail

1557
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: at n Fossil came in on um quite a few times,

1558
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: just looking for the stand and uh so, so I

1559
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: found the stand. I get up in there and I'm

1560
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: getting saddled and I ain't my bow up and just

1561
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: getting saddles, and I started range and everything around me,

1562
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: trying to get an idea of like, uh, you know,

1563
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: the just different ranges so that I keep that in

1564
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: the back of my head. And while I'm doing that,

1565
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: I noticed a scrape um like right off the deer

1566
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: trail um and I ranged that at twenty six yards.

1567
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: I kept that in the back of my head and

1568
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: started ranging other things and um, so I got an

1569
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: idea of you know, what what yard is? M be

1570
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: seeing that from that in that chief stand, and so

1571
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: uh sit there for about, um probably about three or

1572
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: four hours, and I started catching some movement off to

1573
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: the east. And it's about two days. They're coming in

1574
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: and they're acting a little weird. Um. I thought maybe

1575
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: either wind was swirling a little bit down. Then maybe

1576
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 1: they caught wind to me, and that's why they're kind

1577
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: of high stepping and bobbing their heads, you know, kind

1578
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: of cautiously walking, you know, towards me from from east

1579
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: to west. And then uh, so I lose them in

1580
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: the thicket. I'm watching them through my binders. I'm loving

1581
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I lost them in the thicket. Um, so I bring

1582
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: down my binders. I look all. I catch some more

1583
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: movement to my left. It's like, I don't know, thirty

1584
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: yards from me, and it's New Fasila. He's coming in

1585
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: and he's walking on the trail that just trudged all over,

1586
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: um get looking for the stand and he's making his

1587
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: way over to the scrape that I ranged that twenty

1588
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: six yards and I'm like in my head, I'm like,

1589
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's him, and I'm like I just

1590
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: kind of frozen. I snapped out of it, and I

1591
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I gotta do something. I gotta

1592
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: do something. And I look at his rack and I

1593
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I can't look at his rack anymore.

1594
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: I got to focus on his body. I picked a point.

1595
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: I picked a spot on this body that I wanted

1596
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: to shoot at, and I just focused on that. So

1597
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: by then he by the time he gets to this

1598
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: great if I've already hugged up my bindings. I grabbed um,

1599
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 1: grabbed my bow, and I'm being really smooth and you know,

1600
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: very cautious about every movement I make. And uh so

1601
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 1: he bought up that there at about a couple of times,

1602
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: three or four times. And by then I get the

1603
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: full draw and I'm still going I'm going through all

1604
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: everything my checklist in my head of how I need

1605
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: to make the shot, um, you know, everything that I

1606
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: need to do to make a good shot. And uh

1607
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: so I get the full jaw and I've got my

1608
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: pen settled on him. You know, my bubbles is good,

1609
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: I got my anchor points. Everything's perfect. I've looked at

1610
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: uh made sure my hair is gonna clear. Anybody answers

1611
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: or any limbs that made the fleck my arrow and

1612
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: he starts splinking the branch above him and that's when

1613
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: I I squeezed my release and some similarity, and uh

1614
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: it hit him and it made a pretty loud noise. Um.

1615
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I thought I had actually hit his shoulder blade, and uh,

1616
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: it looked like a good stop. But that noise is

1617
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: kind of got in the back of my mind, like

1618
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: because I shoot an expandable mechanical and I I was

1619
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: just nervous. I was nervous about it, but at the

1620
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: same time, the shot looked good. It felt good, so

1621
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: it was in the back of my mind. He takes

1622
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: off and uh crosses this creek and I hear uh.

1623
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: He runs through the thicket, past the thicket and hear

1624
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: loud trash. And I didn't know if he had run into,

1625
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, a log or something made it, maybe fell

1626
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: all got up, walked off whatever. So I sit there

1627
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: and I'm, you know, thinking about everything in my head

1628
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: that just happened, trying to calm myself down, and I'm

1629
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: texting the guys telling him what happened, you know, and

1630
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: just shot me fasta. UM. Everyone's in disbelief, and like,

1631
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: are you serious. Are you sure? So I'm open to tree.

1632
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I just shot me fasta Um. I pulled up my

1633
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: binders and I'm like second for blood, looking for blood

1634
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: anywhere around that scrape that he was just that and

1635
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing anything. Um when he took Oh yeah,

1636
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: when he took off, the air was pin wheeling. Um.

1637
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: And that actually the air penetrated penetrated all the way

1638
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: through him. But when he took off, he snapped the

1639
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: arrow in half in front of him, and the broad

1640
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 1: headside went flying somewhere. And I saw the knock into

1641
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: the air spinning doing a pin wheel as he took off,

1642
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: And so that kind of made me a little uneasy,

1643
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: um seeing that. So what a few things just before

1644
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: you go any further? Yeah, how how did you keep

1645
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: so dang collected when he was coming in like that?

1646
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: And you were able to stay focused and like think

1647
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: through your checklist and making sure those things are all

1648
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: spot on before taking the shot. Um. I mean that's

1649
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to do with any buck, let

1650
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: alone this buck. Did you have to We're doing a

1651
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: lot of self talk. Did you have to ever like

1652
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: control your breathing? I mean, I don't know what could

1653
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: be going on physically, But I gotta believe maybe some

1654
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: shakes or some seriously fast heart pumping. Was that a

1655
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: thing or were you just like, for whatever reason, you

1656
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 1: were in that zen mode and just worked out perfectly. Yeah,

1657
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: it's uh the thing, I didn't have to watch him

1658
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: come in. If I had to watch him come in,

1659
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: my arrow would probably be in the next cop. So

1660
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: when I first saw him, here was that thirty yards

1661
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: So I didn't really have time to watch him. You know,

1662
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have time for all that nervousness. It's a

1663
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: good point, you know, just kind of cloud my mind.

1664
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I just kind of went in autopilot mode,

1665
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 1: just focused on his body, and uh, I pull myself.

1666
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 1: I have to make this happen. I have to make

1667
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: this happen. That's great, man. I wish I could be

1668
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 1: that cool. I'm still trying to figure out how to

1669
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: get better at that myself. So so you get the shot,

1670
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: you're a little nervous about it. Um, you text your buddies.

1671
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: What's your mental state at this point? Did you now

1672
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: lose it? Did you lose your cool, con collectedness and

1673
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: freak out or were you just nervous or how at

1674
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 1: this point, Like, are you allowing yourself to be happy?

1675
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: What are you thinking? Yeah? Yeah, So I did a

1676
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: few fish pumps, you know, I still have that nervousness

1677
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: it And there'd a few fish pumps, and uh I

1678
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: texted the buddy my buddies and kind of asked him,

1679
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, what what next step should I do? Should

1680
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: I I'm getting down in half an hour and kind

1681
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: of checking out the scene like where I saw him,

1682
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: Or should I go to the truck and come back

1683
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: in like an hour or two, you know, give him

1684
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: some time. Um Hey, they said they're gonna come down

1685
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 1: to me here shortly. So I was just like, all right,

1686
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: we'll just oh waiting the tree for a half an

1687
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: hour and get down head of the truck and maybe

1688
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: meet them there and get down from the the tree.

1689
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't take it. I had to go and check

1690
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: them out and check out the area. Yeah. So I

1691
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 1: snuck up over there and I'm looking for blood. I'm

1692
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: not seeing anything, and uh it made me just feel

1693
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: back to the same sick feel and I have when

1694
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: after I saw my arrow been wheeling, you know, been

1695
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: wheeling around him. I'm like, all right, well, let me

1696
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: at least find the area. I'm watch about like ten

1697
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: yards from where I saw him directtionally went and I

1698
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: find the aero It snapped in half. I was missing

1699
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 1: a good I don't know, nine inches ten inches of

1700
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: the arrow, and uh he's got about twelve inches of

1701
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,600
Speaker 1: blood on it on the arrow and I'm seeing a

1702
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: little bit of blood um on the on the folly,

1703
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 1: on the on the ground, and uh, I started following

1704
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 1: that a little bit. Um. It wasn't very big, wasn't

1705
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: wasn't too much. I walked about another I don't know

1706
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: five yards to the creek they jumped across, and I

1707
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: see his hoopprint there and uh I picked my head

1708
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 1: up and I'm just kind of glass and left the right,

1709
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: and uh, I see a big rack sticking up and

1710
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way, there's no way that's him.

1711
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: And I was just like infantly pulled out my phone

1712
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: text of the guys. I got eyes on them and

1713
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: they're all told me congratulations and everything. And uh, I

1714
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 1: put my phone back in my pocket and I knocked

1715
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: another arrow and I started creeping my way over to him, um,

1716
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 1: being as quiet as I can. Uh, then if he

1717
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: was you know, if he was just bedded down because

1718
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: he was injured or something, I didn't want to they

1719
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: don't want to jump him, or if if I did,

1720
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: I'd wanna follow up stide. So I did, uh start

1721
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: making my way over to him and and confirmed he

1722
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: was down for good, and did my celebration and and

1723
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: sat down with him and just check them out and

1724
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: thank them for for everything good you know, done for

1725
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: me and the guy is only excitement over the two years,

1726
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 1: and you know the me well, it was provided to

1727
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: my me and my family. So what was that like?

1728
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: Was that was it Was it any different than any

1729
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: other deer you killed? Or was it the same? Like

1730
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: you described the gratitude, um, excitement, I'm sure, but what

1731
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: all was going through your mind at that point? I

1732
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: was honestly in disbelief. I was just I don't know,

1733
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: it was just it was it was weird. It was

1734
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: it was kind of a weird feeling. It was, um

1735
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: it was who's something else? Um? Yeah, trying to describe

1736
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of sad. You know, my

1737
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: buddies have been chasing too. I kind of felt bad

1738
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: for them. Uh Uh. I was kind of sad that

1739
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of this mythical creature that you know,

1740
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: it's been so hard to to put a tag on. Um,

1741
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be chasing him more. And I was pumped,

1742
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was excited. Though you know I was excited,

1743
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: I kind of felt a little drunk right after I

1744
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: walked upon him. I was thinking when I picked up,

1745
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: as when I was checking him out, looking at the

1746
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: rack and everything, and there's a fresh break and um,

1747
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 1: so I was kind of thinking about that as well, like,

1748
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: all right, well I noticed this and I'm pretty sure

1749
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 1: he had something right here and it was it was

1750
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: pretty fresh. So I decided to retrace my steps and

1751
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: by by the time he jumped over the creek is

1752
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: uh the inshurts and next when really opened up and

1753
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: it was just like a huge red carpet all the

1754
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: way to him, from the creek to him. So he

1755
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: started uh backtracking and following his trail um about like

1756
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, five yards ten yards from him was

1757
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: a tree that he ran into. That was a loud

1758
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: crash I heard, and he had broken off that that

1759
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: it was that big club jop time. Uh, he had

1760
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: snapped that off when he crashed. So I ended up

1761
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: finding that at the base of the tree, and it

1762
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: matched up perfectly with the fresh break, and so I

1763
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 1: was able to keep that and poping you on as

1764
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 1: able to count that on the score, which definitely benefited. Yeah. Yeah,

1765
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's for anyone who's not seen pictures of

1766
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: the deer, it is. It's a wildly unique animal. I mean,

1767
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: how do you even try to how do you even

1768
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: try to describe that to someone and into someone like

1769
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: what it looked like, Yeah, it looked like a tree

1770
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 1: roots system. Yeah, yeah, a root ball. Um. It's just, uh,

1771
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: it's unreal. He put on over a hundred inches this year.

1772
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because they switched from in

1773
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: the theater from corn to beans, because there has been

1774
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: from corn to beans because there's been corn like the

1775
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 1: previous two years, or something like that. I don't know

1776
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: what it was, but he obviously he had the genetics.

1777
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: He was showing the potential last year. He had some

1778
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 1: non typical um points coming off. But I mean he

1779
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: just blew up. Yeah, crazy, crazy, unique animal and beautiful,

1780
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just a really really special creature. Yeah, what

1781
01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: happens after this? That's something that like I I understand

1782
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: what it feels like to see a big animal come

1783
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: in that you've been thinking about for years or weeks

1784
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:09,600
Speaker 1: and weeks and weeks. I know what that excitement is like.

1785
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to walk up on a

1786
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: deer and put your hand on his chest and have

1787
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: that gratitude and that sorrow and that excitement. I know

1788
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: what that feels like. Um, what I don't know about

1789
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: is what happens after you have an experience like that

1790
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: with such a rare, like a world class animal that

1791
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: no one has ever seen before, killed before like this?

1792
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: What starts happening next? I mean, do people show up

1793
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: at your door that night where there were there? I mean,

1794
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: what what happened over the next day or the next

1795
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,679
Speaker 1: couple of hours described to me the what I'm guessing

1796
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 1: was maybe some hysteria of some kind. Did that happen? Yeah,

1797
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: like the first of media outrage and yeah, what what

1798
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 1: goes on? Yeah? So I don't have Facebook kind of

1799
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 1: deleted that like a year two years before, um this

1800
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: had all happened. It's just been on Instagram. Really, So

1801
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I sent the pictures to my buddy after it happened,

1802
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: um here in Virginia, and he presented on the page

1803
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: and it's just made its round. So pretty much every

1804
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: archery or you know, every hunting page or a lot

1805
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: of the hunting pages, and um, I guess the game

1806
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 1: warden was getting a lot of emails, uh saying you

1807
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: need to get to check the deer. I'll check this out.

1808
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: So bad night I went to bed. Well, one of

1809
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: my Justin's buddies, you know, he'd been telling Justin, hey,

1810
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: you guys need to keep that deal locked up and

1811
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: keep it secured. Uh. It's kind of like there's a

1812
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: few crazy people out there and you just don't want

1813
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 1: something you you know, like that getting you know, stolen

1814
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 1: or or destroyed or something because of jus like that.

1815
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: So we ended up blocking them up and I went bed.

1816
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: I went to bed that night, well tried too, probably

1817
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 1: only slept about like maybe two hours. Um, just so

1818
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: excitement everything that had just happened, and just kept replay

1819
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 1: and everything over in my head. Um. So the next

1820
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: day or next morning, um, just when I asked me

1821
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: if I wanted to have one of his uh his

1822
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: buddies come out, his dad, his dad buddy come out

1823
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: and play some good photos with his with his camera.

1824
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, let's do that let's go ahead

1825
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: and uh get that plan. Um, so we put some

1826
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: pictures around like nine o'clock and we're getting, uh getting

1827
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: some good field pictures or the make some good hero pictures.

1828
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: Some of the field pictures. I guess there's a lot

1829
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 1: of people complaining about being too much blood and stuff

1830
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: like that. So I got some good uh good hero picks,

1831
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: and um, uh the next thing I know, the game

1832
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: warns pull him down the driveway and uh, I just

1833
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: got done taking some pixtures with them and started talking

1834
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: to the game board and he's checking everything out and

1835
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: makes everything is you know, I'm the up and up

1836
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: and everything was and uh make sure everything was good.

1837
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: And after that, uh, I started trying to figure out,

1838
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, where are I getting next? To get a

1839
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: taxi bar miss and get them takes and and ready

1840
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: for that and get them to the processor. Was this

1841
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 1: throughout that process? Was that? Was it still fun or

1842
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 1: did it start getting stressful? Like when the game? Was

1843
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: that a stressful situation? Yeah? Even though you're you know,

1844
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, you're you did everything expressed to and you're

1845
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 1: all cleared. He checked on everything. You know, Um, you're

1846
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: still nervous. I mean, you know, It's just one of

1847
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: those things that, uh, no matter if you're in the right,

1848
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 1: still gonna feel like there's something that you can do wrong,

1849
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, yeah. You hear all these horror

1850
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: stories about people and you know things that you know,

1851
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: some game warrings, games that they might play or something.

1852
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: But oh no, I had a great experience with the

1853
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 1: game warnings out there. They're all nice and they're they're fair,

1854
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: they're good, good guys. So you got you got all

1855
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: checked out of the game war and everything's clear. Yeah,

1856
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 1: that was That was probably the best thing matter happened,

1857
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: because you know, everyone on social media, not everyone, but

1858
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 1: there's a handful of people on social media saying he's

1859
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: a highpense dere and this and that, and the game

1860
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 1: warring came by and took pictures of them and got

1861
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: the story and took pictures of his ears because if

1862
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: there's a you know, if there's a hole in his ear,

1863
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: then that would mean he get attack and he's you know,

1864
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 1: highpense came from a high sense place, so he got

1865
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: his person that he needed to form to put it

1866
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: out a statement to the public saying, hey, it's a

1867
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: free range beer. That's great. That's great. It must have

1868
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: been just a nice relief so that you didn't have

1869
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:16,440
Speaker 1: to have that criticism. And I gotta believe your situation

1870
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: is so interesting to me, um because just in doing

1871
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: what I do, like just sharing my stories and my

1872
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 1: pictures and everything through social media for Weird Hunt, and

1873
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: telling stories on the podcast and everything, just putting myself

1874
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,839
Speaker 1: out there to that degree, I get so much flak

1875
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: for stuff. There's so many comments for people nitpick what

1876
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,799
Speaker 1: I did or disagree with what I did, or question

1877
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: what I did. And a big thing for me over

1878
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: the last few years that happens more and more is

1879
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 1: I've had to learn how to deal with like public critique.

1880
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: And I've had to in some cases like just stop

1881
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: listening to stuff, Like there's certain places I know if

1882
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 1: someone shares my video on I don't know, certain places

1883
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: I know, there's gonna be people in that audience who

1884
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: don't like me as much or whatever, and they're gonna

1885
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: critique me for this thing or that thing. And I've

1886
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: I've had to just start to not look at stuff

1887
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: because because it impacts me, like it negatively influences my

1888
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: mood for a couple of hours, it ruins my night

1889
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: and I don't need that, so I've had to try

1890
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: to find ways to avoid that. Did you have to

1891
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 1: deal with that at all? Did did the social media

1892
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: stress and comments and public opinion? Did that ever get

1893
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: to a point that it was negatively impacting you? Stressing

1894
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: you out? Like? How do you deal with that? Because

1895
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: I gotta believe there's a whole lot of talk going

1896
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: on around this, right Yeah, So at first I was like,

1897
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: I didn't care at all. I was like, whatever this

1898
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: means I did something good and people are jealous and hating.

1899
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, people are gonna hate or you know, try

1900
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: to downplay, you know, something awesome that happened. I get.

1901
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean I get the people questioning things because if I,

1902
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 1: if I was in there of shoes, I would have

1903
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: been like that probably would have been the first I

1904
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 1: thought that had popped into my head without reading or

1905
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: hearing the story or anything or knowing anything about it.

1906
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 1: It's like, is that a hyphenser So I get that

1907
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: some people, But I mean even after the story is out,

1908
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: you know the game one David, you know his thumbs

1909
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: up and and everything that, you know, all the proof

1910
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: that's out there, you know, I figured it would sut

1911
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: shut a lot of people up. But you know, you

1912
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: still get it, or I still get it every now

1913
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and then. But I guess it's just one of those things.

1914
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, at first it didn't bother me at all,

1915
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 1: but then after a little while, and kept hearing it

1916
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 1: and kept getting this, and there's been a lot of

1917
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,759
Speaker 1: people that have had my back and you know, pretty

1918
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 1: much vouched for me and shouts for the deer and everything.

1919
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 1: So it's nice to have that that support. But yeah,

1920
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of bothered me a little bit.

1921
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: But now it's just like whatever, I just keep on

1922
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 1: scrolling passes, keep on keeping Yeah, I think they're pretty

1923
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: much this one um one attention or something. I don't know. Yeah,

1924
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: that's a very good point. Now, what about the regular media,

1925
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: not social media, but actual reporters magazines, I don't know,

1926
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean podcasters like me. Did that start happening right

1927
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 1: away where people reaching out to you or what? What's

1928
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: that look like? What happens in that kind of situation.

1929
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: So I guess like the first few weeks is kind

1930
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: of heavy, a little bit um people wanted to get

1931
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 1: ahold of me from magazines and stuff like that. Different publications. U, um,

1932
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: just a you know, a handful of people and get

1933
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 1: a hold of me about everything, and uh kind of

1934
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: put it on hold for a little bit because it's

1935
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of settle in and figured things out,

1936
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 1: put a lot of it on pause, just figure I'd

1937
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 1: just take it slow. I don't really do want to

1938
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: do too much until after the score. Um. So yeah,

1939
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be.

1940
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 1: I figured it is, you know, I would have everyone

1941
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: and their mother coming out after me for something or other.

1942
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: But it really wasn't too bad. I guess that a

1943
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 1: lot of people that I've been talking to me recently,

1944
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: they kind of said they wanted to wait until the

1945
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: dust settled to get a hold of me. So I

1946
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of got like a second wave, like quite a

1947
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: few months later. It was just like, okay, here's another

1948
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 1: wave of coming in of of uh, you know, people

1949
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: that want to get some information or do a story

1950
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: or or whatever. Yeah, So did you did you find

1951
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: out pretty quickly that hey, this is probably the largest,

1952
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,759
Speaker 1: the highest scoring deer ever killed. Like, was that something

1953
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: that you knew pretty quickly when someone scored it? And

1954
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 1: did that? Did that sink into you? What did that

1955
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: mean to you? Did that? Was that like a thing like, oh, well,

1956
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: that's cool. But either way it's a massive, like amazing

1957
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: experience and deer or was it like did that change

1958
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: things somehow in your head? And this became like a

1959
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 1: holy ship moment? Like what was that? Like? Yeah? So

1960
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: I think because I'm you know, I'm fairly new to hunting. Um,

1961
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up around it, but I didn't

1962
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: really get into hunting until like, I don't know, five

1963
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 1: or six years ago, so I'm still kind of new

1964
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: to it. And it didn't really think in like, you know,

1965
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: benches didn't really matter to me. I guess it was

1966
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: more about like the majority of the deer by the

1967
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 1: time I shot him. So, I mean I was just

1968
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: happy to put like a buck of that caliber down.

1969
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really care about benches or if

1970
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: he was a world rectord or anything. And and so

1971
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: I didn't really, I don't know, I wasn't too hung

1972
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 1: up on that that whole thing. Um, I was just

1973
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 1: pumped to have you know, a good material. Buck Down

1974
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: is my second honestly, my second book, Buck with a Bow,

1975
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. So It's a great way to

1976
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: get started. Yeah. Yeah. Where do I go from now? Though? Yeah?

1977
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: Well that is that is the question, like how how

1978
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: did this? So you you kill this once in a

1979
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: lifetime for all of us buck? Where do you go

1980
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 1: from now? Did you? Like? What are your where's your

1981
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: head at? For two thousand nineties? I've got a bunch

1982
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: of more questions that I want to still get tackled

1983
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 1: about what happened right after the buck? But since you

1984
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 1: brought that up, where's your head at? Leading into this season? Um,

1985
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how do you follow that up? What

1986
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 1: are you trying? What do you do? You want to

1987
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 1: shoot a mature buck? Do you want to shoot a

1988
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 1: big buck? Do you? I don't know. I have no idea.

1989
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: What's got to be going through your mind? So pretty much?

1990
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I gotta fill the frazer first and foremost. Um,

1991
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't really buy meat at the store ever, really,

1992
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: I just need you know what I what I get

1993
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: from the field. Um, So first as still a fraser

1994
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: um tag A few days, Um, go out to Illinois

1995
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: and uh try to put it my sure back down. Um,

1996
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: I got a few good ones on camera now, I mean,

1997
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen, but I plan

1998
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 1: on kind of. I want to go out west, you know,

1999
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: not this year because I pretty much um used up

2000
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: all my vacation from work, you know, doing things with

2001
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: my fasta, going on a few shots and whatnot, so

2002
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 1: getting scored. I've just been back and forth across the

2003
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 1: country so much this year, probably put about twenty miles

2004
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: on my truck so far, and burned burned through a

2005
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: lot of vacations. So my plan for you know, next year,

2006
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: after this season, the following season is I want to

2007
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: go to Idaho and you know, go go hunting out west,

2008
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: get that experience, because to me, hunting is more about

2009
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: like the experience, um uh than me. I love Sason

2010
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: White Shills, but there's there's so much more, you know,

2011
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 1: I want to experience. I love it. I love it.

2012
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 1: I think you're I think you're right on, and I'm

2013
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: really glad that someone with that perspective is who killed

2014
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: a buck like like the one you did. Um, that's

2015
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: pretty cool. How do you how is this this inside

2016
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: look that you've gotten to get at the at the

2017
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 1: you've heard if you've listened to podcast you first talked

2018
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: about this, like the kind of big buck media frenzy

2019
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 1: around high scoring antlers. Right, Sometimes you talk about like

2020
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: does it go overboard? Is there a negative side to

2021
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: this at all? You have now gotten thrust right into

2022
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: the middle of that as a relatively new bow hunter.

2023
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you kill the highest scoring deer

2024
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: that's ever been killed by hunter. You're surrounded by media.

2025
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: People are wanting your picture, people are wanting your interviews,

2026
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: They're doing stories about you. People. I'm sure they want,

2027
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, shooting their ball or using this thing or

2028
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: using that thing. What Now that you've lived in how

2029
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: do you feel about it? Do you feel like it's

2030
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 1: is it cool? Do you feel like there's a negative

2031
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: side to it? Do you feel like it's just a

2032
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: great positive thing. I'm just kind of curious about coming

2033
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 1: out of this how it feels to you. Oh, there's

2034
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 1: several things. It's it's kind of like picking up a

2035
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 1: second job. So I'm kind of kind of a little

2036
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: bit overwhelmed with the everything right now. Um. But on

2037
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 1: another thing is it's awesome to be able to share

2038
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: this beer with so many other people. I love going

2039
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 1: to shows and just talking to you know, regular people,

2040
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: regular hunters that just like to get out there, and

2041
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, I love conversating with them and meeting new people.

2042
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: That's That's probably one of the most positive things I've

2043
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 1: gotten out of the experience, you know, since since putting

2044
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 1: the tag on him, is going out and just talking

2045
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: to people and and uh just staring the experience and

2046
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: let them enjoy, you know, what God has put on

2047
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: this earth for us to enjoy. You know, God's great.

2048
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, that's awesome. Probably big positive right there

2049
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 1: is just being able to be the guy that gets

2050
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 1: to share such a So it's an awesome, awesome creature.

2051
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 1: That's a that's amazing privilege. Now, has there been any

2052
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 1: downsides to it other than it just taking up a

2053
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 1: lot of your time? Um, anything that you experienced, like man,

2054
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: that that was kind of icky anything like that. Um No,

2055
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: not really. Um, just it picks up a lot of time.

2056
01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Um yeah, just so yeah, it's pretty much. This sucks

2057
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of time time away from family and and

2058
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: uh might put a little bit of short in my

2059
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 1: hunting season this year, but I mean it's worth it.

2060
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Yea plenty more years to come, So that's true. I

2061
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 1: guess you this is this probably isn't gonna happen again,

2062
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 1: so you might as well, uh soak it all in

2063
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 1: and really cherish this whole experience. I gotta believe. Yeah,

2064
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: but you know, you never know, I mean I thought

2065
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: you never thought. Nobody thought, you know, the beaty bug

2066
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 1: is gonna get broken so or even the talk about so.

2067
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it could happen to anybody, you know. Yeah

2068
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: that's the truth. Do you feel like do you feel

2069
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 1: like you've changed it all coming out of this? Did

2070
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: this force you to change to grow to I mean

2071
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: maybe in hunting or maybe even outside of that. I

2072
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: just gotta believe this is this is probably a life

2073
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 1: changing experience. I'm just curious it has changed your life. Um.

2074
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I learned that I need to get more comfortable with

2075
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: being on the camera or just I don't know, just

2076
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: um dealing with media type things. I don't know, kind

2077
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 1: of a little bit overwhelming effort because I'm just some

2078
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, some nobody you know from Virginia, and then

2079
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,879
Speaker 1: I get thrust it into the big limelight and cameras

2080
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 1: pointing at me everywhere and doing all this other stuff.

2081
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah overwhelming, Um yeah, I mean more more time, you know,

2082
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm around it the more comfortable I'll get. But it

2083
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: was one of those things I learned that you know,

2084
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 1: I needed that that I need to grow to, uh

2085
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 1: to deal with. I guess do you feel like this

2086
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: is something now? Having gotten all this attention? I guess

2087
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: around this year and this experience, do you are you? Are? You?

2088
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 1: Do you want more of that? Like do you hope that, hey,

2089
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna get another big buck, I'll get

2090
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 1: to share that story and like you you you express

2091
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 1: that you enjoy getting to share that experience and share

2092
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 1: that buck with other people, Like that was a cool

2093
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 1: thing for you? So excited for more of that? Or

2094
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,520
Speaker 1: are you feeling like, you know what, I'm kind of

2095
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 1: looking forward to eventually, just like fading back in the

2096
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 1: shadows and getting my privacy back, Like where are you

2097
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: on that one? Yeah? I mean I think about that

2098
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 1: from time to time, just like kind of flying back

2099
02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 1: into the satus and just going out and hunting, you know,

2100
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:41,040
Speaker 1: just provide, you know, my own piece and I'm just

2101
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 1: doing my own thing. But at the same time, I'm like, whoa,

2102
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, if I thought about maybe filming some hunts

2103
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: in the teachers just for if not, you know, to

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Speaker 1: share on with other people or just to have for myself,

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02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, just to share with buddies and and stuff

2106
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 1: like that. So I don't know, it's kind of up

2107
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 1: in the air, like where what I want to do now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's a good position to be

2109
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Speaker 1: and you can try new things, and I gotta believe

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02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 1: some cool opportunities have come out of this too, um,

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02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: which which has gotta be fun. Yeah. So what about

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Speaker 1: from a hunting standpoint? Um, Like you said, kind of

2113
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 1: lightning struck and this crazy thing happened to you, But

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02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 1: you obviously made some right decisions along the way to

2115
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 1: someone's luck. Someone's being prepared for that luck to arrive. Um.

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02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 1: But now when you look back on the hunt itself

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Speaker 1: and you look back on the situation in a couple

2118
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 1: of years you've been going out there, did you learn

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Speaker 1: anything from this experience from a hunting standpoint that now

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02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen you're going to be putting into

2121
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 1: action in some kind of way with your future hunts. Um.

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02:02:56,160 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about that. Um Uh, do you

2123
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,400
Speaker 1: ever think about why? Do you ever think about why

2124
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 1: he was there? Like what what led him to want

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02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 1: to be there? Because I'm always kind of interested, Like

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02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll shoot a buck and then I'll sit back and

2127
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: say okay, and it doesn't happen till long afterwards, because

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02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 1: then when it just happens, I'm just excited and happy

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02:03:17,080 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 1: it happened. But long afterwards I'll sit back and say,

2130
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 1: why did that happen? You know, I set my stand there,

2131
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 1: I decided to hunt there because I thought something would happen,

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02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: but what actually ended up being the case? And then

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02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 1: I'll kinda sit there and bs with myself and try

2134
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:31,200
Speaker 1: to think, well, he was coming from this direction. I

2135
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: bet you he was trying to do this or that

2136
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: Bill walked in and that's why he was there. Did

2137
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 1: you ever get a couple of quiet minutes to think

2138
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 1: back on that and kind of say, you know, I

2139
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 1: think he ended up coming in here because he was

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02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 1: moving here to I don't know, wind Betting area, or

2141
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 1: do you think he was just on scrapeline or what

2142
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:53,640
Speaker 1: do you think? So he Um, he doesn't ever so up.

2143
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 1: We don't have any summer pictures of him. He doesn't.

2144
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 1: We don't know where he summers at. Um. He always

2145
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 1: say is up late. It starts up late October, and

2146
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 1: that's when we start getting pictures of him on camera. Um,

2147
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:13,200
Speaker 1: so this shows up pretty much for the rut, and

2148
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 1: then after the fever he disappears and you know, we

2149
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 1: don't see him again until next next next, uh next season,

2150
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: right before the rut. So it's kind of, uh, one

2151
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 1: of those things. He's just he lives somewhere else and

2152
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 1: comes over to stay some days around on the property

2153
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: and and gets out of there. So I think what

2154
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 1: he was doing is he was betted down. We actually

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02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 1: got pictures of him the morning that I, um, the

2156
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: morning of the day I saw him. So he's headed

2157
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: down from where the guys were sitting. Um, they passed

2158
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 1: a few cameras. He was actually walking the field edge,

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02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:57,400
Speaker 1: um outing the open around like eight or nine in

2160
02:04:57,400 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 1: the morning. Eight He's like right below where the guys

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02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 1: were at. And uh, he was headed down towards well,

2162
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 1: headed towards me where I sat that evening, and uh,

2163
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 1: I guess he was going down to going somewhere he

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02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 1: felt safe to bed down. It was close to where

2165
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, some other days were at and so I

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02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 1: think he betted down on this point kind of close

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02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 1: to where I was sitting. I must have passed passed

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02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 1: them on the way to the stand. And when I

2169
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: got to the stand, Um, a few hours went by.

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Speaker 1: He got up and started making his rounds two different scrapes,

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02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 1: and and uh, just freshening things up, freshen and is

2172
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 1: getting thiss sent back out there? And then there you were. Man,

2173
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Speaker 1: what uh what a hunt? What I just I just

2174
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 1: can't amend. What What an interesting experience must have been

2175
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 1: for you. Now, now you're almost a year out from it.

2176
02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 1: You've experienced the hunt itself, You've experienced the media hysteria

2177
02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 1: around it, You've experienced all these additional events and things

2178
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: you've been going to and travel in the country and

2179
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 1: sharing the story with people. Um, it sounds like there

2180
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:14,320
Speaker 1: was some good stuff. There were some things that were

2181
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 1: stressful at moments too. Looking back on that part of things,

2182
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 1: is there anything you wish you'd done differently? Is there

2183
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 1: anything you wish you could go back and change or

2184
02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 1: redo or anything, or did it all go the way

2185
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: you kind of hoped? Um, it's all pretty much gone

2186
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 1: with that I hoped. I mean, yeah, I really can't complain. Um,

2187
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Speaker 1: that's great. Working with the deer companies or the you know,

2188
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: some of the products that I've used. Um, yeah, I

2189
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 1: mean there's a luckily you know some of the the companies,

2190
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, the products that I use, they have been

2191
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: pretty awesome me helped me out with the few things

2192
02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: so help mail for the future of season. So that's great,

2193
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 1: that's terrific. Definitely burn to it. Oh yeah. So so

2194
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Speaker 1: then my last question for you, it's probably an easy one,

2195
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know, maybe not. If you are sitting

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02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: in a tree. Let's say you're in a double ladder stand,

2197
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Speaker 1: and just just just roll with this with me. Let's

2198
02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 1: say you're in a double ladder stand. You and your

2199
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 1: best friend are sitting in that ladder stand together. Your

2200
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 1: buddy he's hunting, he's got the bow. You don't have

2201
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 1: a bow, you're not gonna shoot. You're just sitting with

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02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 1: him for the night. And a buck shows up half

2203
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: an hour before the end of shooting. Light comes walking

2204
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 1: in and he stands in front of your buddy at

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02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 1: twenty yards and this buck is obviously the largest white

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02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 1: tail that's ever been seen in the wild before. It's

2207
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 1: bigger than the buck you killed. And your buddy turns

2208
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 1: to you and he says, hey, Luke, should I shoot him?

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Speaker 1: What would you say would you say no, all the craziness,

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02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 1: the stress, all the time, it's gonna take away from

2211
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 1: your family and friends, it's not worth it. Or will

2212
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 1: you say yes, this is gonna be the coolest thing

2213
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 1: that ever happened. Shoot, hell yeah, shoot that yeah nice?

2214
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:25,320
Speaker 1: All right, definitely don't don't turn down that opportunity. Very cool, awesome. Well, uh, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to to share this

2216
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: whole experience. It's it's really cool that that someone who

2217
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: just loves to be out there hunting, wants to meet,

2218
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: wants to have a great experience, wants to, you know,

2219
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:38,880
Speaker 1: every once while get a mature buck, that that someone

2220
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,400
Speaker 1: like that was able to capture lightning in a bottle

2221
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: and and have a have a life changing experience like

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02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 1: this and and share that store with people. So so

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Speaker 1: thanks for doing that, Luke, and for sharing it with us. Yeah,

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02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 1: thank you, Mark, thanks for having me on. And I

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02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 1: guess the only thing I want to know is, uh,

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02:08:57,720 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 1: next time you've got one of these mega Bucks in Illinois,

2227
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 1: you just let me know about it so I can

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02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 1: come down and check it out. Alright, look, good luck

2229
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Speaker 1: this season. I hope you have just as much fun

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02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks as you did last year. Thank you,

2231
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 1: good luck to you this season. I appreciate it and

2232
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 1: that is a rap. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this one

2233
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: long episode, two different unique topics, but we covered a

2234
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: whole suite of different things that hopefully can be helpful,

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02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:30,800
Speaker 1: maybe insightful, and definitely interesting. Good luck to all of

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Speaker 1: you out there hunting. Stay tuned to the Media YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel for another episode of the Back Forward coming soon,

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Speaker 1: and over on the wire one Instagram, I'll have lots

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Speaker 1: of updates from my Boundary waters hunt and all the

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Speaker 1: other good stuff we got going on, so check it

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Speaker 1: out and until next time, stay wired to Hunt.