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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome today too of Patriots training camp. I'm

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Speaker 3: Fred Kirsch and we're coming to you live from Jellette Stadium.

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Speaker 3: The practice feels behind the stadium. We'll be here for

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Speaker 3: the duration of practice. It's myself, Paul Parrillo, Evan Lazar,

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Speaker 3: Mike Dus, Tamara Brown, and well, here we are on

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Speaker 3: day two, guys, and whether it's holding out, doesn't look

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Speaker 3: like it's gonna rain today, so it looks like a

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Speaker 3: great another great day for practice here at Jellette Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Sun trying to peek out a little bit maybe, but

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Speaker 4: I think the players getting a little bit of a break.

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Speaker 4: Heare early in camp without the sun bearing down on them.

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Speaker 4: That sound like next week will be a hot though,

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Speaker 4: once the pads come on, so that might that might

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Speaker 4: be beneficial get some work in.

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Speaker 5: But I think it's you know, favorable conditions here first

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yesterday full attendance.

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Speaker 6: You know, we've yet to take attendance yet.

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Speaker 3: Players are trickling out on the field as we speak,

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Speaker 3: as you know, you can see us. We should probably

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Speaker 3: get a camera on the on those arrivals, shouldn't we.

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Speaker 3: There we go, there's Drake May, David Andrews, two of

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Speaker 3: the first on the field. I can tell you that

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan was the first person on the field today,

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Speaker 3: not that, not that Michael Jordan, our Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we should. We should also, just because we

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Speaker 5: talked a little bit about it yesterday when Gerardmeo spoke,

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Speaker 5: he sort of led us to believe they wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: in pads until around the middle of next week. I

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Speaker 5: guess there was a little bit of confusion. He said

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Speaker 5: seven practices, He meant seven days, right, So the first

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Speaker 5: day that they can be in pads is Monday, and

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Speaker 5: that is the expectation, Okay, that they will be in

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Speaker 5: full pads on Monday. So I want to make sure

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Speaker 5: that we clear that up for all of our loyal listeners.

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Speaker 3: I heard you, Paul on one of your shows yesterday,

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Speaker 3: you know, putting out bad information.

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Speaker 5: You know that's not true. Oh yeah, no, you had

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Speaker 5: to do a correction because the coach had to be corrected. Okay,

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Speaker 5: not me.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. Yeah, Paul was on with his guys in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: I had to go on with Paul's guys.

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Speaker 5: I heard you this morning, some Jaws tribute this morning.

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Speaker 6: You know, I used to be.

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Speaker 4: The hoodie guy and I'm becoming the Joss tribute.

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Speaker 5: And I went four for four on Josh Tribuna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, although you didn't know how long it took to

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Speaker 3: build the Mechanically.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Holly got me on that one. Fred Bruce

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Speaker 4: Bruce Evan. You know you're not allowed to talk right

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Speaker 4: now about this movie.

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Speaker 7: Right, the Mechanical Shark. We Never Die.

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Speaker 5: As Samara would say, I can't even I.

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Speaker 8: Can't even be perfect Paul.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, uh, you know, just uh reflecting a little

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was I thought it was a pretty

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think a lot of a lot

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Speaker 4: was made of you know, a couple of throws that

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Speaker 5: A lot was made. Yeah, yeah, I was one of

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Speaker 5: guilty as charged.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that kind of feeds into what

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Speaker 4: and you know, we we we really won't be highlighting

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Speaker 4: or maybe even aware of what Jacoby Brissette is doing,

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Speaker 4: Like I got home last night and like, man, this

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Speaker 5: So uh, these first few days are as exciting as

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Speaker 3: We may not know or pay much attention to what

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Speaker 3: Jacoby bris said, let's make a commitment to our listeners

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Speaker 3: and viewers that on this show Patriots Unfiltered, even when

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Speaker 3: we get back to the studio, we will pay attention,

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Speaker 3: Yeah to not only what Jacoby bris said does, but

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Speaker 10: I'll be interested to see out of the wide receivers,

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Speaker 10: who's going to be the most consistent, Like obviously yesterday

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Speaker 8: Drake May as well.

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Speaker 10: But I'm wondering is it going to be him again

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Speaker 3: I would guess that somebody else will will have their

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Speaker 5: That was one of the things that kind of stood

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Speaker 5: practice working with the offensive lineman trying to catch punts

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Speaker 5: not going well. One of the things though that stood out.

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Speaker 5: You know, you try to chart the reps right, not

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Speaker 5: when May went in, it was a different offensive line.

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Speaker 5: The wide receivers to me are just and out. There

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Speaker 5: The receiver, you know, it was a lot of polk,

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Speaker 5: than that, those wide receivers, it's hard to tell exactly

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Speaker 5: how the depth chart looks right other than they're just

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Speaker 4: Than like David Wallace, Kawan Baker, Chaque Jackson, like those

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Speaker 7: Have we have an Antonio Gibson sighting Hey uniform, so

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Speaker 7: it looks like he's ago.

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Speaker 5: That's basically what jar Odd said yesterday. He didn't anticipate

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Speaker 3: Speaking of what you're on that, can I give you

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Speaker 3: the nittiest of nitpicks.

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Speaker 6: Sure, this is a real nitty nitpickt So.

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Speaker 3: We had to run wired up for sound yesterday, and

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Speaker 3: if you went on Patriots dot com or really any

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Speaker 6: Social you heard you saw a little scissorreel.

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Speaker 3: After the first day of practice and at the end

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Speaker 3: of practice the team gets together and jerrobbers in the middle,

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Speaker 3: and he said, good first day, Good first day, harmless, right,

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Speaker 3: although I'm gonna really nitpick it really isn't the first day.

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Speaker 6: For the team.

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Speaker 3: They've been out here on and off the field since April,

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Speaker 3: really practicing, So I wouldn't want players to have the

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Speaker 3: excuse that, oh, it's just the first day. No, you

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Speaker 3: should be at a certain level by this time, you know,

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Speaker 3: between all the OTAs and the mini camps and everything else.

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Speaker 3: They do that so that when you get to this day,

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Speaker 3: it's not really the first day.

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Speaker 6: You have a lot under your belt already.

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Speaker 3: So just a real nitpick, but you know, hammering home

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Speaker 3: and if you're not, then you're behind, because this isn't

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Speaker 3: That's all I wanted to point out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wonder, I wonder how they feel,

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Speaker 4: how the players feel if they do feel like it's

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Speaker 4: I know the rookies have been here for what already

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Speaker 3: So but in terms of the process, it's anything but

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Speaker 3: wanted to get that out there. Yeah, again, real nitty.

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Speaker 7: But I have a little nitpick myself.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we're picking nits here, a little nitpick.

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Speaker 7: Nobody cares about Jacobea.

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Speaker 6: That's not a nitpick.

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Speaker 7: That's a nobody cares top of the show. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 7: just it is not important. It is irrelevant. Well, like

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Speaker 7: it just is. Yeah, And I understand that until something

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Speaker 7: changes and Girodd tells us differently or we see something

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Speaker 7: But how long are we going to continue that charge?

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Speaker 6: I get what I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the investment that they made, the future

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Speaker 3: has to be Drake. May you know that's and and

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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette was brought in here as a placeholder.

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Speaker 6: That's just the.

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Speaker 3: Way it has to be, given that they used the

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Speaker 3: third overall pick on Drake May.

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Speaker 6: So I get what you're saying, but it's.

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Speaker 7: No offense to Jacoby Brissett. I'm not trying to come

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Speaker 7: off as I'm sure he didn't take it as being rude

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Speaker 7: about it. I just I just am wondering, and it's

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Speaker 7: it's the right thing to do, it's the right thing

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Speaker 7: to say. And I remember talking to Drake May's high

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Speaker 7: They went up to the upper classmen like a week

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Speaker 7: before the first game of the season and says, guess

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Speaker 7: what we're gonna go with Drake right, And I'm just

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Speaker 7: wondering at what point we get to that, because every

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Speaker 7: time we watch these guys play, the eyes tell you

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Speaker 7: that one guy is superior to the other. Now, is

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Speaker 7: Drake May going to be ready to run the huddle?

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Speaker 7: Is he going to be ready to relay plays audible?

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Speaker 7: All the mental side of it. Well, we'll see, But

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Speaker 7: you would think by six weeks into training camp, when

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Speaker 7: do those types of things.

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Speaker 3: That's my prediction. But like you said, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: that the coaches know and see that we don't. It

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Speaker 3: completely wrong thing. We have no idea about that because

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Speaker 6: Develop and end up.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: But my opinion is that.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if Jacoby Prissette's trying to think he can

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Speaker 3: No, May, oh, okay for opening day, for opening day.

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Speaker 4: But it's not gonna be because and I think I

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Speaker 5: He doesn't make it.

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Speaker 4: But you know it's just like all right, well with

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Speaker 5: That's never probably gonna change.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, just not having those qualifiers already on

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Speaker 5: You know, is nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I you know, I know we have a

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Speaker 5: That's why I want him to play. I think his

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Speaker 7: That's my whole thing too. It's like, if it's all

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Speaker 7: it's not going to be that. Jacoby Brissett throws a

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 8: Agree.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like experience isn't the only teacher, but

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Speaker 8: I agree, Fred.

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Speaker 10: I mean, Josh Allen didn't become Josh Allen just by

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Speaker 4: How do you guys remember Josh Allen's development though? Do

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Speaker 5: Yeah. His rookie year, he looked like he couldn't hit

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Speaker 7: Yeah, his second year, he was already starting to turn

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Speaker 6: Listen, people in Buffalo were questioning it.

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Speaker 7: That's right, that's true.

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Speaker 6: That's true. No, but the Bills knew what they had.

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Speaker 3: They knew if we can just get you know, get

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Speaker 10: And I mean Josh Allen he like didn't play in

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Speaker 5: Do you think we'll have that moment with Drake May?

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Speaker 4: Like, I mean, it's that is that part of what

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Speaker 5: Of throwing the words, you're saying that you're gonna get blood. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: But to be fair, the people that are saying don't

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Speaker 5: Think it's mostly because they don't think he's developed enough

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Speaker 5: People just think he needs to.

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Speaker 3: Develop a lot, need time to develop, And I say

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Speaker 5: I'm with Freddy and I'd love to argue with you,

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Speaker 10: It didn't start off that great, though it evolved into

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Speaker 5: Well the first game. Did He was pretty good in

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wonder. So much of the argument for

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Speaker 5: You don't use Johnny Uns like Mike Felgerach.

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Speaker 7: You're literally saying that because Patrick Mahomes sat behind Alex

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes would have been better if he had played

442
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Speaker 5: right away. You can't prove I'm wrong because he didn't

443
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 5: play right away. So I'm going to die on that

444
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 5: hill arguing it. And I think if he had played

445
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,680
Speaker 5: his rookie year, he would have gotten the few mistakes

446
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 5: he made his second year out of the way in

447
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 5: his first year, and maybe that cost him a title.

448
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 3: And if they had a lesser quarterback than Alex Smith,

449
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 3: he would have played. Right.

450
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 5: Do you remember what happened when he did play the

451
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 5: one game his rookie year?

452
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 3: Right?

453
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 5: No, he lit it up? Is how close, Paul is

454
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 5: that hill to Mount Cooks? Mount Cooks is more of

455
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 5: a like a little like a little ant hill. It's

456
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Speaker 5: not necessarily what I'm willing to die off.

457
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 7: There's nobody that disputes that Brandon Cooks is not a

458
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 7: good player. At this point.

459
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 5: He does, He's been the lead for he scoffed at

460
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 5: me where he does. A good, solid, productive player. He's

461
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 5: getting rid of him, though, I don't know why, tossing

462
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 5: him around.

463
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 7: I'm not really sure how he can dispute.

464
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean, his problem is he only goes in a

465
00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,120
Speaker 3: straight line, Brandon Cooks, or.

466
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 5: Tries to go for seventeen yards to catch, or tries

467
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 5: to go.

468
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 6: Over a guy and get knocked out of the Super Bowl.

469
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 5: But anyway, now, now it's his fault that he got

470
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 5: concussed in the Super Bowl. He tried to hurdle the guy.

471
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 5: So what are you doing? Try to hurdle guys all

472
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 5: the time?

473
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 7: Around a guy no field awareness, Paul, no field away, spatial, spatial.

474
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Speaker 3: The first time he diaked somebody out will be the

475
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 3: first time.

476
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: Tell you he must have all unbelievable offensive coordinators that

477
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 5: got him a thousand yards every year. No, he's just

478
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 5: by avoiding Everythingody just.

479
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 3: So fast, and he's a good ball catcher, I mean,

480
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 3: but he doesn't have a lot of wiggle. Who cares,

481
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's that's the only weakness in his.

482
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Speaker 5: Guests shot the samarow is Mount Cooks right now and

483
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 5: now we're back. Now I'm back on the hill. Wiggle,

484
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 5: that's the that's the number one. That's what I used

485
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 5: to hear Belichicks say all the time. I need my

486
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 5: wide receivers to be able to get open, catch the

487
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 5: ball and wiggle right.

488
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: Well to make somebody miss once in a while. That's

489
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Speaker 3: all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

490
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, then he'd be elite.

491
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Speaker 4: So just to share a little bit, I watched the

492
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: latest Hard Knocks an another another good episode.

493
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Speaker 5: I'm very much enjoying them behind the scenes.

494
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 4: This was the draft though, but little little Elliott Wolf,

495
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 4: little you know, conversations behind the scenes of the Giants.

496
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 4: But you know, some people made more of the Patriots

497
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 4: want and Drake May in it than I really interpreted.

498
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it seemed like they were just content to

499
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 4: kind of stay there, not specifically pumping up Drake May,

500
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 4: but you know, just hearing the conversations that the Giants

501
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: were having and doing the same thing that Paul has

502
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 4: been saying for like five years now. They're going right

503
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: through the hit rate of quarterbacks in the first round

504
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 4: and the difference it is when you get somebody in

505
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 4: the top three picks and how quickly after that you

506
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 4: start going downhill. And you know, just their acknowledgment of yes,

507
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 4: we could probably stay put and take Malik Neighbors, who

508
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: they loved, and you know, Brian Table was just you know,

509
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: blown away by what he was watching with that kid.

510
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 4: But you could still see that even despite kind of

511
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: having that thing and knowing for them, it's gonna mean,

512
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna keep Danil Jones, We're gonna give them a weapon,

513
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 4: We're going to try to solidify the offensive line. In

514
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: free agency, they were still so tempted to trade up

515
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: and weren't quite willing to make, you know, this crazy

516
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: package to get up that it seemed like the Patriots

517
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: you know we're going to ask for because they were content.

518
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 4: But it just reiterated for me how valuable that pick

519
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: was third overall and it lined up in a year

520
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 4: where there were three good quarterbacks worth being taken.

521
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what we'll never know was what was that

522
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: crazy package that would have tempted that page.

523
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 5: I do because he kind of said it, Yeah, he

524
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: kind of Yeah, he talked about it. I mean it

525
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 5: was you know, it's a one.

526
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: They were saying, Look, it's the trade down and then

527
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 4: it's the one next year plus what and you know

528
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 4: that was the big question. Obviously you're gonna give us

529
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Speaker 4: your your one next year, but how much more is

530
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Speaker 4: it going to take? And how ridiculous is it gonna

531
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Speaker 4: And Elliott never on the phone, never, you know, specifically

532
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: said he just I mean.

533
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: You could tell, hey, are they going to be that stupid?

534
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 6: But we know they right.

535
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 7: If you're going to do.

536
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 5: Something stupid, then we'll talk. But look, we're pretty happy

537
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 5: to stay where we are.

538
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 7: So really quickly attendance wise, I am not seeing Devon.

539
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see him either. I miss and a

540
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 5: few others that you probably have, but he's the most noteworthy.

541
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't have Joey's Sly, but I don't know

542
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 7: if maybe the Kickers is kicking to have disappeared.

543
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I didn't see Sly either, so I'm not

544
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 5: sure he came out. I definitely is your here, Yes,

545
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 5: he is, he is. I have everybody.

546
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 7: I have everybody besides Godshaw and Joey sl okay.

547
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: So now they're doing things a little differently than yesterday.

548
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: Yesterday they had the defense on the right the left field,

549
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 3: they had the offense on the right field warming up.

550
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 5: Because you made such a big deal, they changed it.

551
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: Now they're on opposite ends of the same field doing

552
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 3: this stretching, so a little bit different.

553
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 6: I don't know why.

554
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: I believe we might have Antonio Gibson departing for the

555
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: lower field. Perhaps I couldn't get a full number on him,

556
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: but it looked like him and Jennings.

557
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jennings came out without his helmeted.

558
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Speaker 7: I never saw Gibson ground helmet.

559
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

560
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 7: It's it's like maybe they're if they're out here stretching,

561
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 7: then they should be off. They should be off the

562
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 7: NFI list, in the pup list, if you're participating at

563
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 7: all in this part of practice.

564
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would say he's probably off. I you know,

565
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: didn't write it that way, but I would say he's

566
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 5: probably off NFI to be out here in uniform. Yeah.

567
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: So can we talk a little about jude On gotshak

568
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 4: because I mean, obviously Judon spoke yesterday, and I'm really

569
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: wondering what's gonna happen, Like, I just I think they

570
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: need jude On, but there's just so many complicated parts,

571
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: and hearing him talk yesterday, all I could think.

572
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 5: Is like, is this gonna if they don't, are we

573
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 5: gonna be hearing this all year? Like?

574
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 4: Are we gonna be you know, hey, it's November now,

575
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: how you know how you feel about it?

576
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: Like?

577
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 4: Can they let this thing drag on? Do they have

578
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 4: to either give him an extension or move him? Like

579
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: can they even let him stay right now and play

580
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: on this deal? Because it's going to be a distraction

581
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: all season long?

582
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 7: My question just is it what do they have to

583
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 7: lose by giving him more money for this year? Like

584
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 7: an extension is one thing? I get with the age

585
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 7: and coming off an injury. Yep, maybe you don't want

586
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 7: to give him a two year extension. But if he's

587
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 7: just looking for an extra raise just for this season,

588
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 7: it's it's not there's no way that it's it's a

589
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 7: monetary issue to get to hand him an extra five

590
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 7: million bucks. It's certainly not a cap issue. So if

591
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 7: it's gonna make him happy, then like, what are we

592
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 7: waiting for whatever reason?

593
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 6: He Judon just left the defense and.

594
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 7: The defensive lineman are down there, so he's going to Oh,

595
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 7: I see do pass resh?

596
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: I think he might have to take a tinkle or something. Okay,

597
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: it's like he's had it for the it looks like

598
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: he's had enough hydration issues.

599
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: But you think gotchall might be Hey, i'm gonna come,

600
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come day one, and then then you know,

601
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: and then all bets are off.

602
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 5: I think there's everything on the table. And I did

603
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: see something earlier that someone tweeted out that he was

604
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: one of the guys that's expected to speak today. Yep,

605
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 5: So I don't know if that's you know, obviously, if

606
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: he's not out here on the practice field, I find

607
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 5: that to be hard to believe.

608
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: So what does everybody think right now? Gotcha and Judon

609
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 4: both on the team this year, both gone one here

610
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: one not?

611
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 6: I think both on the team.

612
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think that's going to get traded.

613
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I think that.

614
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 3: I think that rather than an extension, they're just going

615
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: to give Jude On extra money and he's gonna be like,

616
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: all right.

617
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: One one, but no more, no additional years. Now, you

618
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: don't think they'll do uh, you know what the dummy

619
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: years like all that, like all that kind of stuff.

620
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: You think they'll get into that kind of stuff now.

621
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Speaker 7: Be interesting to see because they've never done that really. Beside,

622
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 7: Devin mccorty is the one guy I can remember in

623
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 7: recent memory that got void years. But they knew he

624
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 7: was either going to be a Patriot or retire from football,

625
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 7: so the void years there was ways around that, Like

626
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 7: the Bill didn't really believe in the void years structure.

627
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 7: So if they did something like that with Judon or

628
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 7: with Gotcha, I guess that would be a departure from

629
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Speaker 7: how they've handled contracts in the past. So it'd be

630
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 7: interesting to see if that is because a lot of

631
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 7: teams do that. The New Orleans Saints do it with everybody,

632
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 7: and that's how they run the cap, completely different than

633
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 7: every other team in.

634
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: The league, but it still exists.

635
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, New Orleans, Philadelphia like those teams do utilize void years.

636
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: Well. The media has certainly come to Judon's defense. They're

637
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: out there telling him that he telling everyone that he

638
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: deserves the money. They've come out. The new stat now

639
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: is the amount of sacks per game that Judon has

640
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: had as a Patriot versus.

641
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: Former team, and it's.

642
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: Pretty I think it's like thirty eight games in thirty

643
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: two sacks or something like that.

644
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: Which is anybody do the December January totals. Those aren't

645
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: as impressive.

646
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: It goes down, it.

647
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 10: Go down, I think because of that reason, Fred though,

648
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 10: they can't afford to trade him, at least right now,

649
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 10: because they don't have the depth behind him to take

650
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 10: his spot. So I think for right now, you give

651
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 10: him some money to last, you know, she get through

652
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 10: this season, and if you don't feel like extending him,

653
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 10: don't do that, but at least satisfy him for right now.

654
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 10: But you can't afford to trade him because who's going

655
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 10: to play in his spot.

656
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: I'm with Tamara in terms of give him a little money,

657
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 5: get him motivated part the season. Then I trade him.

658
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: You know, really I trade him heading into the trade deadline.

659
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: I think there might be some value. I think someone's

660
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 5: probably gonna lose, you know, an edge rusher. It's like

661
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 5: pitching at the trade deadline. You can never have enough

662
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 5: guys that can get after the passer. And I think

663
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: a contender would be interested. You just sold me, Paul.

664
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: I think that that you're that's a really good thing

665
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 4: because we've always said before he's only early one of

666
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: the assets they have. If they try to do it now,

667
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: you're probably not going to get as much. But if

668
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: you can give him a little sweetener and he plays

669
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: pretty well and he's getting some sacks and he has

670
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: some value, you know, that's where this team is. When

671
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: you look at that point, whenever the trade deadline is,

672
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: you know, early November or late October, that look, we're

673
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: not going to make the playoffs. Now's the time to

674
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: cash this chip in, pick up an extra whatever it is,

675
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: second third round pick. If he's playing well, and then

676
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: you're selling a little bit more high because if you're

677
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: trying to sell him right now, you're you're you're kind

678
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: of selling low coming off an injury.

679
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great point because there's also precedent from

680
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 7: last year with Chase Young and Montes Sweat, Yeah getting

681
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 7: moved or as a Josh, but I always forget which

682
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 7: Sweat I think was Montes, right, So yeah, so those

683
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 7: two guys get moved right around the deadline last year,

684
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 7: So it's been done. You know, you can use those

685
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 7: deals as as sort of barometers of what you might

686
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 7: get for Judah, and you give the team a seven

687
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 7: eight weeks to see if they're going to be competitive

688
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 7: or not. You know, if you're to and six at

689
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 7: the deadline, then you deal them if you're.

690
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Makes sense that you saw predicated on Judah being satisfied

691
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: with just taking extra money for this year.

692
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, right right?

693
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: And I mean do you think and I guess I saw,

694
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: did you guys see I think they how much cash

695
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: they actually spent this spring? I think there were some

696
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: like ninth in the leaguers. I mean, do you think

697
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: the money they've already spent? I mean, are they I

698
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: know they have cap space, but you know we always

699
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: talk about real money, like I mean, is some of

700
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: their budget kind of dried up?

701
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: I mean is that you know, and I don't know

702
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: that this is going to happen. But let's just look

703
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: around the league. And you saw yesterday, uh, ESPN and

704
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: NFL Network. It was just one stop after the other.

705
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: TUA in Miami, Jordan Love in Green Bay, CD Lamb

706
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: and others. In Dallas, Hassan Reddick with the Jets.

707
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 6: Trent Williams.

708
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 5: Now, the Patriots could wind up twenty fifteen cash spending

709
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: by the end of the training camp if these guys

710
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: all get signed. So I do think they like right now,

711
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: Dallas I think is thirty second in cash spends. They

712
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: have three enormous contracts hanging over their head. I can't

713
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: imagine they're just gonna lame duck all of them. Micah Parson,

714
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 5: CD Lamb and Dak Prescott. I got to think at

715
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: least one of those guys gets a long term deal,

716
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: and I think that changes those numbers quickly. It's like

717
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 5: everyone's like, oh, Calvin Ridley twenty three million a year.

718
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: How does twenty three million a year look now for

719
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 5: a number one receiver right when they're making making thirty five?

720
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 6: You know?

721
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: So I think those numbers change so quickly. The complexion

722
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: of those numbers.

723
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: But do you think, Paul, I mean, look, your guys,

724
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: your guys killed them all year because they don't spend money.

725
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: I mean, do you think that that amount of money

726
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 4: they spend is that irrelevant?

727
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 5: No, it's not irrelevant. I mean I think it's relevant

728
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 5: in the amount of money they spent. I do think

729
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 5: it's mitigated in the fact that the vast majority of

730
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: it was on their own players.

731
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 6: Oh but it's still money.

732
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 5: That's why I said it's not irrelevant. Yeah, yeah, it's

733
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: it's money. Yeah, I don't In other words, I don't

734
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: blame the organization for not spending money. But if it

735
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 5: doesn't go, well, it's not the organization's fault. It's the

736
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: personnel department, who is the ones that decided we're going

737
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: to run it back with a four and thirteen team.

738
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't run it back.

739
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 5: See that? Like that talking points? Is that grinds my gears?

740
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: I know it bothers both of you, and I don't

741
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: really understand. It's hard to.

742
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 7: Say running run it back. The drafted a quarterback.

743
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 5: They drafted a quarterback.

744
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 7: Yes, they have new receivers. They drafted a quarterback, They

745
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 7: new coaching and coaching staff.

746
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: Like I'm talking about the players. The personnel is all

747
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: the same, but you can't make changes and one that's

748
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: not going to play.

749
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 7: One of them is literally the third overall pick in

750
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: the year is not going to play play. I don't

751
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 7: agree with that. I think he is going to play

752
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 7: the majority of the year, like I don't know how.

753
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 7: And also the guy that quarterback the team last year

754
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: is not here, so it's regardless.

755
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: It's one of the two changes they made.

756
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: So that's a pretty big should have let everybody walk

757
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: and just sign a whole new team.

758
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: Why you know, why does it have to be Andy Hart?

759
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 10: Like?

760
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: Why does it mean everybody?

761
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 8: What?

762
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find where your line was for who

763
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: they should or should not.

764
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: I think they I think they brought back five or

765
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 5: six guys that are completely and utterly irrelevant that added

766
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 5: to that cash total. No, that's not one guy that's

767
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: born I would say Born Jennings Uce. None of these

768
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: guys impact that.

769
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: I disagree with that.

770
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 10: I feel like I can't count. He's kind of like

771
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 10: a Uchi got none Yeah, he got no money.

772
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying you brought them all back. You

773
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: could have gotten other guys that are better than them,

774
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: but they chose not to.

775
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's realistic. We saw they tried

776
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: to get a bunch of better guys than twenty twenty one.

777
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: Some of them work, some of it didn't. And a

778
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: lot of these guys in twenty twenty one when they

779
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: were still on the upswing, where guys you said, man,

780
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 4: we got a player in them, when you we got

781
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: a player in.

782
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: Douger last year, Jennings didn't give them a lot of money.

783
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: I just don't run it. I think that they found

784
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: core pieces that they liked. They hung on to them.

785
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 5: They they kept comfortable with.

786
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: They kept what they Yeah, sure, but you know when

787
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: these guys like Juju, they're gonna let them.

788
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: Why were they comfortable with them because.

789
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: They like them? Why not because of their talent?

790
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: What?

791
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: Because they didn't win?

792
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 7: I think they have They didn't win games, means Kyle

793
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 7: Duggar is not a good football player.

794
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: Again, it's not every single one of them, it's the whole,

795
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: I know, but it's the whole. They took them all back.

796
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: And most of them a lot of them were defense,

797
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: and I think they thought they had a pretty good

798
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: defense last year. And because we had pretty good players.

799
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 5: Like I would have resigned Hunter Henry. Yeah, that's like,

800
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 5: I'm not telling you that it's every guy. I don't

801
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: think it's I don't think it's an all or nothing.

802
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: I just would have maybe half of them back and

803
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: the other half I would have tried to upgrade. That's all.

804
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: Would it be too extreme to say they didn't have

805
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: an offensive line coach the.

806
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: Last two years?

807
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 6: No, No, it wouldn't be to it.

808
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 5: I think they had an offensive line coach last year.

809
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: I don't think he did a good job.

810
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 8: Right, Well, he was yeah, he was gone, Yeah, yeah,

811
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 8: I know.

812
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: But he was there for all of the off season

813
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: training camp, in the first nine games, and their offensive

814
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: line was the worst in the league.

815
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: I've been here six years, They've had six different coaching combinations.

816
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: Along the offensive line. I just that's great stats. I mean,

817
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: I was done. That's a great stat right, And every

818
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: year it's been different.

819
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: And it's just that when I when I got a

820
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: little fired up on the hub this morning, it was just,

821
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: you know, I get it, but like they didn't have

822
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: much to work with last year. I just think it's

823
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 4: been two years since you've really had quality o line coaches.

824
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to be now, but

825
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think I don't think it's some

826
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: reasonable to say they'd really had just any kind of

827
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: continuity the last ye.

828
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 5: I just think if we were, if we were being

829
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: honest with ourselves and talking last year at this time,

830
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 5: we were saying the same thing, we have an offensive

831
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 5: line coach. Now we didn't have one last year, and

832
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: we were wrong.

833
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 7: Well, but that's they I mean, yeah, exactly like we.

834
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 5: Have another guy he's never done it before, and you're

835
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: hoping but also too far.

836
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: But the point too, I think for me, is that

837
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: he wasn't the right guy last year. He did wasn't

838
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: who Billy o wonted. He wasn't a guy who was.

839
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: It was Bill hiring a guy he knew. And if

840
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: you would let an actual offensive coording or hire an

841
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: offensive line coach who knows he wants.

842
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm listening, I'm sorry I was rude. I'm sorry.

843
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 10: I agree with you, Mike, because I think there were

844
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 10: reports out at one point saying that Bill O'Brien was

845
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 10: talking to all the groups like sometimes he was coaching

846
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 10: all of the groups.

847
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 8: They weren't in their individual meeting.

848
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 5: That was after Clem had left with his health scare right,

849
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: But even when Clem was there was it was it

850
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 5: Working with Billfne was terrible. And I think you have

851
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 5: you know says for a quarter Ford, you're gonna have

852
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 5: four the same five. So that's why I just I

853
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: think you've got an offensive line coach, granted unproven and

854
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: that and that's something you have to deal with, but

855
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 5: obviously knows Alex van Pelt's system, knows what he how

856
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 5: these guys have to play, and it's it's connected now.

857
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: And I mean, I just I see some value in that,

858
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 5: and that gives me, you know, these little nuggets of

859
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 5: like I think that they're gonna be okay. Maybe I'm

860
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: gonna be wrong, but that's my hill. I would say

861
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: that hill. I would say they'll be better than last

862
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: year because they were thirty second last year, so I

863
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: think they'll be better. I don't think it'll be okay.

864
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna look at them and say

865
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: offensive line's okay.

866
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: You are right.

867
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: No, you think they're gonna be under siege the whole season,

868
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: long start to finish.

869
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 5: That's was that the case last year past blocking, I

870
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: don't think it was. I think there were some games

871
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 5: it was like that, but I don't think it was

872
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 5: like that every game. I don't think we said that

873
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: every game last year. So it'll be better this year, though, No,

874
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 5: I definitely think it'll be better than thirty second in

875
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: pass block win rate.

876
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 10: Yes, I think they'll be better, But I don't expect

877
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 10: them to be like Lions offensive line brickwall like their

878
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 10: offensive line is elite.

879
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't expect it to be that good.

880
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: No, but if Kayden Wallace works out, and Michael and

881
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: when you you know, shows that what we've seen for

882
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: the last three years that he's a very good guard,

883
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: and David Andrews continues steady play and you know city,

884
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just I don't.

885
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: Think Scott Peters is a good line coach.

886
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 5: I have no question about. Just like if Drake May

887
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 5: you know, plays really well right away, my whole complexion

888
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 5: of what I think this season's going to be is

889
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 5: going to be different if all those things happen on

890
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: the offensive line. My complex of the offensive line will

891
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 5: be different if all of those guys end up playing

892
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: really well and the coach is really good. They'll be

893
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: a lot better.

894
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 7: I agree to Kobe Brissett playing some running back, not actually.

895
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 5: Just this fun stuff, good hands.

896
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 7: Doing some some drills here. But it does irk me, Paul,

897
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 7: It does irk me when people say that they run

898
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 7: it back. It also irks me when we talk about

899
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 7: the cash spending thing. And to Mike's point, this year,

900
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 7: this off season, they're not in the league in cash spending.

901
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 7: You can say it was on their own guys, but

902
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 7: they spent money, and we just are disingenuous when we

903
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 7: say that that the team is cheap or they won't

904
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 7: pay this player or sign that player or whatever, when

905
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 7: that's just inaccurate based off of the data that we have. Now,

906
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 7: is that going to be consistent every single off season

907
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 7: that that's a different story. But for this off season,

908
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 7: they did go out and spend money. And to sit

909
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 7: here and say that they're, you know, this team that

910
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 7: won't do that, I just feel.

911
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: I don't know how many times people can say that

912
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 5: they've spent money. You can't argue that they spent money.

913
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 5: I mean, Felger of all people said they spent money.

914
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: I don't know how we can argue this. Danny Ada,

915
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: I was wondering where that handsome man was down there.

916
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 5: It's out on him.

917
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried to get him for pats from the past,

918
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: and he'd he blew us off out. Yeah, that would

919
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: have been a good pass for the past, it would have.

920
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: We'll get him eventually.

921
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: Man, he had some acrobatic catches for me.

922
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: I just so distinctly remember that first game against Buffalo,

923
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: and you know, we talk about things that like the

924
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: fans start to rage about. I mean, I remember him

925
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: signing him and being he's so injury prone. That was

926
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 4: everybody was worried about. And it's funny because he both

927
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: like I think got hurt in that Buffalo game, but

928
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: also like managed to make a couple you know, crazy

929
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: clutch catches at the end.

930
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: Danny Amidola taught me a lot about anatomy.

931
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know we had two groins until he

932
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: hurt both of them.

933
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 7: Act in the back of the end zone against Jacksonville Championship.

934
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 5: That's the highlight that to.

935
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 7: Me is the one that always stand out from him

936
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 7: on the whole. A little a little overrated discatch though,

937
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 7: but that, but individual plays here and there.

938
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: That one was my kind of guy. He wasn't like

939
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: a volume stat pattern. He just every every play he

940
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: made was important.

941
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael Gibbons, Yeah, I think about h David Gibbons,

942
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: that touchdown catch he had David the Seahawks, which was

943
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: more like just a Brady throw that there's a shot

944
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: from the back of the end zone where it's like

945
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: the ball is just coming through like a sea of

946
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: hands and like just somehow finds its way to Amadola

947
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: in the in the end zone.

948
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 7: I feel like that was really similar plays. I wonder

949
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 7: if it was actually the same, right, all right, a

950
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 7: lot more special team stuff going on. It seems like down.

951
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 5: Here conversation I haven't been watching.

952
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like, yes, they didn't really do any

953
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 10: special teams outside of obviously the kickers.

954
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 8: The kicking that happened that.

955
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: Kickoff where my kickoff at. I thought, Hey, I thought

956
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: Joe Milton had a couple of nice balls yesterday. He

957
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: didn't get a lot of reps, but but I thought

958
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: he had a couple of nice throws.

959
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 10: Especially was a good ball and his short passes like

960
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 10: they weren't like about to break your hands.

961
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: On time, And I mean, you know he did. I mean,

962
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: like again he didn't. He's not going to play a lot.

963
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 4: I wasn't really watching him when he was down here.

964
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: I was more watching the may side. But you know

965
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: it just it never hurts.

966
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 5: A quarterback who's making some throws.

967
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 7: According to some people, Bailey zappies.

968
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: I saw that, and that made things that make you

969
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: go home. There's always like a practice recap afterwards where

970
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: there's a few nuggets.

971
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 5: And you're like, I didn't see that. I don't know what.

972
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: I don't push, all right, I'll take your word for it.

973
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 8: Define making a push.

974
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: Don't don't count Bailey Zappy out. So let me ask you.

975
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 5: We talk about some things that make you go home

976
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: when you when you go you're reading after the did

977
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: any of this finest esteemed panel see Christian Barmore leave practice.

978
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: I'd see that with the trainers. No, I saw him

979
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: come back. I saw him here today though.

980
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 5: No, I know he's here today, but I didn't. Wondering

981
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: if anybody's because that was tweeted out by Greg Baard

982
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: yesterday that he was with Jim Whalen and walked off

983
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 5: under his own power but look to have a problem

984
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: with his knee. Yeah, I saw it, and I have

985
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: to be honest, I did not see that.

986
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 8: I not see that.

987
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: I didn't either, And it's always like one of those

988
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 4: things that like, oh crap, one of the best players

989
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 4: got hurt and walked off and I had no idea.

990
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: Right, And I pride myself on not missing stuff like that.

991
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 5: I feel like, right now, yeah, he's out there doing

992
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: the position drills down the far end zone.

993
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 10: I feel like the only thing that only person we

994
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 10: noticed that was like off to the side was Pop

995
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 10: Douglas yesterday.

996
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: Yes, that one.

997
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 5: I definitely, Yeah, Well, Greg had to throw in like that.

998
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 4: He's had knee issues in the past, like you throw

999
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: in the like right, oh god, Greg ever.

1000
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: Ruined my whole day. And I know, like and that

1001
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 5: was a part of his contract extensions like that. I

1002
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: think that was one of the probably one of the

1003
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: reasons why he took I think a little less knee concerns.

1004
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he does almost have a little bit of

1005
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: the uh it's not as it's not as clearing as

1006
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: it was with Sleep, but a little bit of those legs.

1007
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 5: That kind of you know, go in a little bit.

1008
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: I guess maybe that's what the interior pass get a

1009
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: little bit, Yeah, a little knock.

1010
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 7: Need a lot more special teams today.

1011
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there really wasn't much at all yesterday.

1012
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not seeing it. It's interesting though, because like

1013
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 7: they're they have people running down to cover this punt,

1014
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 7: but poor kJ Osborne has nobody blocking for them, so

1015
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 7: he's just figure it out on his own out there,

1016
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 7: just bravemarking it right now.

1017
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: Freedom, that's a lacrosse Oh really, Yeah, that's what I

1018
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: was in the movie Melvin Gibson thing. They used to

1019
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: have a thing on lacrosse, especially torn out tournaments, like

1020
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: if it was tied at the end instead of like overtime,

1021
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: they'd have this thing called brave Heart on one one.

1022
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: On one with the goalie. Yeah, but is that they

1023
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: call it from the movie each goal and it's based

1024
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 5: on all right, face off one on one mano we mano.

1025
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: That's kind of cool. I've never heard that before. Would

1026
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: love it.

1027
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 7: Braveheart, bigger and girls lacrosse.

1028
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, because as soon as the other guy got

1029
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: the thing and ran away from me and be like ye.

1030
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm good, good look goalie, save it thrown up.

1031
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 7: To me, it was over very quickly, as he would imagine.

1032
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 5: So pop in there doing a little bit of the

1033
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: ad on one return. Yeah, they can't get him.

1034
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 6: Well, did you see what he just did?

1035
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: Though he did? He did kind of run around Kevin Harris.

1036
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: It's so subtle, just that little left shoulder twitch that

1037
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: freezes the guy for a millisecond and then boom, he's gone.

1038
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 5: He's got that.

1039
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 6: He's special, he's got that.

1040
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 5: Question got that quick twitch? Oh god, Polk.

1041
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 6: Oh he's a many tyree, Tyree.

1042
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure, Jaylen, According to The Boston Globe, Yeah,

1043
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1044
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: I was disappointed he he missed that one yesterday at

1045
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: the You know, it's kind of reminiscent of Yeah, you know,

1046
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: when he's like on a post and then he just

1047
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: lays out for it and a few those of Washington

1048
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: you're talking about Polk Now.

1049
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one yesterday, Like everybody got to air grievances

1050
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 5: at the beginning, and I didn't really have anything, and

1051
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: I didn't. I've been underwhelmed. It doesn't get open. I've

1052
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 5: been underwhelmed. That's that's my first impression of him.

1053
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, did you have those same impressions of him when

1054
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 10: we drafted him?

1055
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: No, I didn't, you know, I was just sort of

1056
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: learning about him.

1057
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: It's hard to tell how it's going to alter the

1058
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: draft to the draft. I you know, I like I

1059
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: like his size, you know I I do. That does

1060
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: stand out to me. Just he's he's well built for

1061
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: a receiver, Like he's pretty sturdy. Yeah, that was one

1062
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: of the things I liked about him when they took him.

1063
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 4: I I can't argue with thought Paul on now.

1064
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: Let me not just some of the bursts I want

1065
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 5: to offer to qualifier because I want to be faila.

1066
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: I'm not calling him a bust. I'm not saying he

1067
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 5: can't play. I'm really feel like he's one of those

1068
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: players that the physicality is important to him, and I

1069
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 5: think when he gets pads on, he might be able

1070
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 5: to create more separation as a result. So I'm not

1071
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: calling him to kill Harry for someone. You know, I

1072
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: can hear ldre Well, Paul's already given up on him,

1073
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: like this was a bad pick. I'm not saying it

1074
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: was a bad pick. I'm not saying I'm giving up

1075
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: on him just through Now. This is five or six

1076
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: practices I've gotten to watch. You know, I saw Jalen

1077
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 5: Rager five yards in the clear yesterday on a deep brawl.

1078
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: I've seen Javon Baker in OTAs down the sideline five

1079
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: yards behind guys. Every pass I've seen Tipolk, he's been

1080
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 5: somewhat tightly covered and by rookies, not like by Christian Gonzales.

1081
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: Yesterday was Marcellus Dial had him locked down.

1082
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 7: And this is what my concern was watching him at Washington,

1083
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 7: was that a lot of his plays are made in

1084
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 7: traffic or made with.

1085
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 5: Guys all over him. Now, but that might be his thing, right,

1086
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: and if he's doing it in games, he's got Aaron Dobson.

1087
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 7: And I'm right, and I'm not trying to compare him.

1088
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 7: I'm not saying it's DeVante Parker either, right, Like the

1089
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 7: way that he was doing it with reminded him a

1090
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 7: lot more of Jacobe Meyers, where you know, he's not

1091
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: getting a ton of separation, but he's got that half

1092
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 7: a step that if you put it in his catch radius,

1093
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 7: he's got really good hands and he's got strong hands

1094
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 7: at the catch point.

1095
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: So I just want to make sure that I'm not

1096
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 5: coming off as like this guy. I don't know what

1097
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 5: they saw. I'm not saying that at all.

1098
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 4: Well, and it's at least you know, again we're highlighting,

1099
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: like you know, he did catch a touchdown at the

1100
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: end of mini camp, So I mean, but you know,

1101
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: to your point, Paul certainly tight throw and you know.

1102
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 5: I was going to say play that he wasn't really

1103
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 5: hoping all that right, and you know, but.

1104
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: I think when you look at his physicality, it gives

1105
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 4: you a little bit of pause that he'll be able

1106
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: to play through contact and you know the things that

1107
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: NI kill Harry, Like as soon as somebody went up.

1108
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 5: To the ball, when to kill Harry, Like that other

1109
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 5: guy was winning the ball.

1110
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: He despite his size and strength, he just didn't have

1111
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: that physicality.

1112
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: Like those two plays yesterday. If they happened, you know,

1113
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 5: a week from now, you know, when they're in full

1114
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: pads and it's the same kind of stuff, then then

1115
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: I'll be a little concerned.

1116
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was sort of my takeaway, especially the one

1117
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 7: that Duce and I you were just mentioning with the

1118
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 7: fade over the shoulder Cash. I feel like in a

1119
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 7: week or two, May maybe has his speed, the pacing

1120
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 7: of the route down a little bit better, and the

1121
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 7: ball is a little bit more catchable, and maybe that

1122
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 7: pass gets completed once they get some of that timing

1123
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 7: and chemistry down because he's that type of guy. He's

1124
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 7: gonna have to be thrown open by the quarterback and

1125
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 7: that's gonna take some time. Pennix was able to master

1126
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 7: it at Washington and he was very productive in that offense.

1127
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 7: But you know, when we start to talk about some

1128
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 7: of the guys that were drafted around him, this is

1129
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 7: why people like me, you know, ad him a little

1130
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 7: bit lower than some of these other guys, because you know,

1131
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 7: a guy like Lad McConkey, for example, you know, is

1132
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 7: a pure separator. He's a technician. Now, Lad mcconkey's not

1133
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 7: as big and not as strong as Jalen Polk is.

1134
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 7: So to Paul's point, maybe that ends up, you know,

1135
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 7: favoring Polk. But I've always been the type of guy

1136
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 7: that likes the guys that create tons of separation, the

1137
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 7: explosive guys. You know, even a guy like Pop Douglas,

1138
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 7: you know that that creates you know, with his route

1139
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 7: running it, That's not what I saw with Jalen Polk. Now,

1140
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 7: a lot of people at Washington would tell you that

1141
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 7: the way that their offense was structured, they were running

1142
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 7: four verts every single play and he wasn't really asked to,

1143
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 7: you know, have a lot of nuance to his route running.

1144
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 7: But he has that capability. It just wasn't brought out

1145
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 7: in that Washington offense. So hopefully in the NFL. You know,

1146
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 7: he made a catch early in practice yesterday on Marcus Jones,

1147
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 7: just a little option route out of the slot, you know,

1148
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 7: for eight yards. Like those are the types of catches

1149
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 7: he's gonna make, you know, when he's targeted down the field,

1150
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 7: I don't think that's gonna be his game.

1151
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: Just to the side, looking at the crowd, pretty pretty

1152
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: good crowd today. The hills filled bleachers are you know,

1153
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: for the most part filled a lot of people not

1154
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 3: even sitting down down the chute at the various stands

1155
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: that they have. So i'd say more people here today

1156
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: than yesterday.

1157
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 5: I don't know which way is up or down anymore

1158
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 5: on these things. I would agree with that this more

1159
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 5: people there yea than yesterday.

1160
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 10: I still say the weather for today, according to the meteorologist,

1161
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 10: was not supposed to be great either.

1162
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'll be interesting to.

1163
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 10: See tomorrow, you know, Sunday, when it's gonn Monday.

1164
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: I think it's a pretty pretty good crowd today. Okay,

1165
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: web radio at PETA is the email address. Got a

1166
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: lot of emails coming in. Cody writes in Badard writing

1167
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: BS about Barmore, I'm stunned. Can we please launch Greg

1168
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: Badard to the sun.

1169
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 5: Just just to be clear, just because we didn't see

1170
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean it's BS. No, I didn't. I didn't

1171
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 5: see Barbore leave with Jim Waitlin yesterday. That's what Badard

1172
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 5: tweeted that that's what he saw. Yeah, I didn't say

1173
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 5: that that was BS. I asked if you guys had

1174
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 5: seen it. I missed it, and no one.

1175
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure that he saw us. There's no way he'd

1176
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: write that if it wasn't true.

1177
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why, Like, I don't want to just say

1178
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 5: it was BS. That's not what I'm and I would

1179
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 5: say too that.

1180
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: In my view, Craig Bdard is one of the few

1181
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: people worth reading on this beat.

1182
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: Scott rights in.

1183
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 7: Okay, it's nice to you to say.

1184
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: Scott rights in with the Patriots reportedly calling Cincinnati and

1185
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: the forty nine is about Higgins and Ayug. They've probably

1186
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: called Dallas about lamb Right feels like he might actually

1187
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: be a little more realistic trade than ayug with how

1188
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: unwilling the forty nine ers are. What do you think?

1189
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 5: I don't know what makes it more real the opposite?

1190
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1191
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, is that a report that they

1192
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 3: called the second draft?

1193
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 6: Okay?

1194
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 5: For the draft they suppose that, reportedly, according to Florio,

1195
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: offered a second round pick before the draft recently, I

1196
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 5: haven't heard anything about Cincinnati.

1197
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1198
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: No, And I don't think Lamb is available.

1199
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Speaker 7: I think there's a zero point zero chance that well

1200
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 7: he's holding in right or holding out, holding holding out. Yeah,

1201
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 7: but Dallas is not the type of team that lets

1202
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 7: their own guys like Ceedee Lamb just walk out the

1203
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 7: door like they're.

1204
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 5: You want to talk about notoriously cheap Jerry Jones.

1205
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 7: Well with the certain aspects of the team.

1206
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 6: Chur H Tim our friend from Duncan. I like it.

1207
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: Paul seems to be fired up for Day two. Nothing

1208
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: like good roll it back talk. I disagree with him,

1209
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: but it's great to see he will die on that hill.

1210
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 3: I just can't see how you rolled it back with

1211
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: a totally new quarterback position group, some new tight ends, receivers,

1212
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: a new running back, et cetera. But hey, I'd be

1213
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: disappointed if he didn't stick to his point. It's what

1214
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: makes the show interesting. I also love the Danny on

1215
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: the Mendola talk.

1216
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: I don't really understand half of that. Donnie Hunter Henry

1217
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: is a new tight end.

1218
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 7: Austin Hooper didn't get it, so.

1219
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: You replace Gasicki with Hooperopa, Sony Brody's in the league.

1220
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 5: We have to check on that. So quints this.

1221
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 7: This one would have seen it.

1222
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: This one would have to be for Evan because I

1223
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to tell. But Jeff Canada says, I

1224
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: know it's only been one and a half practices, but

1225
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 3: do you see any improvement in Drake May's footwork throwing motion.

1226
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 7: I still feel it's a little long.

1227
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: It's got a little pat, little peck going on.

1228
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 7: I still feel it's a little long. But I feel

1229
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 7: like maybe it's just something that I'm going to have

1230
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 7: to get used to with my eyes because he's taller

1231
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 7: and longer than the last couple guys we've had here.

1232
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 7: But the one thing that I have noticed with him

1233
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 7: is that his footwork seems to be pretty solid. Now

1234
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 7: there's no real threat yet to have a pass rush.

1235
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 7: So when we get into preseason games and things, like that.

1236
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 7: We'll see if those good habits stick. It's easy to

1237
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 7: have good footwork when you know you're not gonna get hit,

1238
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 7: you know, Let's see what happens when people are coming

1239
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 7: after you. But I do see some improvements with his footwork.

1240
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 7: I wish that he didn't have a little that backwards

1241
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 7: tilt that he tends to have sometimes drives me nuts.

1242
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 7: But in general, I think the footwork is the most

1243
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 7: important thing, and the other mechanical stuffs.

1244
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: And Jeff guesses, and I probably think he's right that

1245
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 3: between the time he was drafted and now he's been

1246
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: working on that.

1247
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they'd said in the spring, and I'm sure

1248
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 7: that it's held true that they've started with the from

1249
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 7: the ground up with him. So they haven't tweaked any

1250
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 7: of his upper body yet, they haven't tweaked his throwing

1251
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 7: motion or any of his mechanics from the waist up.

1252
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 7: Right now, they're working just on his feet. And I

1253
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 7: have seen some considerable improvement, I would say, from his footwork.

1254
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 7: But again it's hard to say until we get into

1255
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 7: a live setting and he's actually, you know, facing a

1256
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 7: pass run.

1257
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 6: Right, let's see.

1258
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: Emery writes in he says Evan, I'm curious about your

1259
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: Brissette doesn't matter take. Mayo said on Tuesday that the

1260
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: standard for may to start is does this guy go

1261
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: out there and perform better than Jacoby? That makes it

1262
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 3: sound like Jacoby's play does matter because it's the bar

1263
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: that may has to surpass. Do you believe Mayo? Your

1264
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: take sounds like you think he's lying to us?

1265
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: No, I tell you what is up right now.

1266
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 7: I just don't think it matters. It just it doesn't matter.

1267
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 7: I guess it maybe matters a little bit in the

1268
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 7: short term, but like none of us are out here

1269
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 7: right now to watch, Jakobe said, like, let's face it,

1270
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 7: like yeah, and no Patriots fan wants to watch Chakober

1271
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 7: said in September and October either.

1272
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: I understand the spirit of what you're saying.

1273
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it has nothing to do with calling Mayo a liar.

1274
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 7: I don't know where that's coming from. That's just real quick.

1275
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 4: Marke Daniels just tweeted out that Barmore is limited today.

1276
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: He's under the weather, according.

1277
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 6: To a source.

1278
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: Okay, illness, So it wasn't yes yesterday, right, yeah, right,

1279
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: It's like I just because I didn't see it. No

1280
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: one on this choke saw. It doesn't mean it didn't happen.

1281
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: But good to know it's not a knee no, right,

1282
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: if if you know, illness.

1283
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 6: Could be anything.

1284
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: He's out here, he's still trying to push through early

1285
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: days of camp. He's a warrior, right, what.

1286
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 6: Do you think of loopus?

1287
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 8: Think?

1288
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 5: Maybe looper? Looper? So I'm curious how you we're allowed

1289
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: to tweet that stuff out in the middle of practice, now, huh,

1290
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 5: I guess I think we always.

1291
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, curious or in curious, Paul, you're gonna write them out.

1292
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 5: No, I don't rad anybody out that against the rules

1293
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 5: it used to be.

1294
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 6: I think we just did rat him out.

1295
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1296
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: Well, if it's not about practice, that's news to you.

1297
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 3: Well, it's something that happened in practice.

1298
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 7: Maybe against the rules for.

1299
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 10: Us sick in practice he was already sick.

1300
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: No.

1301
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 6: No, But if he just said that, oh is he

1302
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 6: talking about yesterday?

1303
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 5: No? No, No, he's limited right now.

1304
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1305
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, that's a that's a gray area.

1306
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 5: It might. I mean maybe with people with Mayo it's

1307
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 5: it's not right, But with Belichick, that was what I'm

1308
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 5: saying upon that.

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: Tweet could have come out before practice as well. It's

1310
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 3: not necessarily something that happened.

1311
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 8: In Honestly, let's be real.

1312
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 10: If you're the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, are

1313
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 10: you really going through the beat reporters Twitter to see,

1314
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 10: like what is happening in practice?

1315
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 7: Not Zach Taylor.

1316
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 6: I'm having somebody else.

1317
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: Somebody's doing it. Yeah, I've got a list on Twitter.

1318
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, with all I need, I've.

1319
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 8: Just watched the tape. No one has time to be

1320
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 8: nitpicking through Twitter to see who's playing.

1321
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 5: Oh, there are people who live for it. Yeah, that's

1322
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: like that. I'm serious. That's someone's job.

1323
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel sorry for that person.

1324
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh yeah, because.

1325
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 8: Half of this stuff on Twitter is not true.

1326
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 6: That's true.

1327
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 7: It's more, I'm sure they're not necessarily looking for Jalen

1328
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 7: Rager is great one handed catch. It's more who's their

1329
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 7: left tackle?

1330
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 6: You know?

1331
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 5: Correct?

1332
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 7: Yeah? Right, especially when you have new, uh new personnel.

1333
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 7: You know, you want to know if there is it

1334
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 7: cheap square for a left tackle or is it Kayden

1335
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 7: Wallace at left tackle? Because that's going to make a difference.

1336
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be crazy if there was like some football

1337
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: savant here who just is like literally like tweeting out

1338
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: their plays, like watching it and like the like the

1339
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 4: nitty gritty that like even the lay person wouldn't really understand,

1340
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh this one, you know.

1341
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: Well, it's like they take the you know, they're here

1342
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 3: recording on their phone and they go home and they

1343
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: pad every play like.

1344
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 7: Billy, hold, I'm not allowed to do that.

1345
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 6: You're not allowed to pad plays anymore.

1346
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 7: No, I'm not allowed to tell you what plays they're running.

1347
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 6: Well you shouldn't.

1348
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?

1349
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 7: I don't do it.

1350
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: So actually, quick, real quick, I tracked down the full

1351
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen Patriots playbook online.

1352
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 5: I wanted to print but I couldn't. But interesting thing,

1353
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: I have a new if you want it, do you

1354
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: have it? We have an older one if you want it.

1355
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing is that they have each day

1356
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: of training camp plot it out, and so they have

1357
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: low red zone, high red zone, you know, like everything

1358
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 4: we've watched they started in their exactly.

1359
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: That's why I was like, Jeff, is this someone who

1360
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: had the playbook and just said I'm going to put

1361
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: it out?

1362
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: I guess it's on a script. You got to like

1363
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: subscribe to. Actually there's a lot of ads going on.

1364
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: You got to really you know, sift through it. But

1365
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 4: but it's pretty you know, just pretty cool because you're

1366
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: seeing what they're looking at before the day's practice and

1367
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: we come in and we're like, oh, they did the

1368
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: red zone day, but you know, see the actual plays

1369
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: laid out that they're you know, trying to get through

1370
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 4: in a given day of practice.

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Speaker 3: See, if I was a team, I'd put out fake

1372
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: playbooks so people think it's our playbook and now there's.

1373
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 7: Right, he's done that, Bill's done.

1374
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 10: That.

1375
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 7: Used to leave playbooks in like the visitors' locker rooms

1376
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 7: and stuff like that when they would leave, and so

1377
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 7: that the teams thought that they were getting the Patriots playbook.

1378
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 7: And it was gazy.

1379
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: It's kazy the amount of time that went into like

1380
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: specifically putting in plays that will be like not give

1381
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 4: them any clue of what they're actually doing.

1382
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 7: Like a lot of you have you have you gone

1383
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 7: through seventies protections?

1384
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: Yet no, I skip the protections because we get the

1385
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: protections the motions.

1386
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: You know, it's like yak and all that.

1387
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 7: The seventies protections is that's calculus.

1388
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: No, it's I mean, it's it's it's just fun to

1389
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: look at it and imagine like having to dive into

1390
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: that thing and know everything and every motion and every

1391
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 4: line shift, and you know every route. You know, single routes,

1392
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: double roads, three three man routes, like it's all in there.

1393
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 4: So I don't know, it's a it's it's jam packed.

1394
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 7: Definitely gives you a huge appreciation for the mental side

1395
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 7: of it. From a players standpoint, how some of the

1396
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 7: you know, these guys master every single play in that playbook,

1397
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 7: It's not as easy as it looks.

1398
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: The flash cars probably flash cars last cards would help me.

1399
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: That was my thing. Geometry. I think it would be

1400
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 5: be hard. And you know, obviously it never played, you know,

1401
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: at any significant level, but I think it hard. Thirty

1402
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 5: two lead on one, power I right, twenty two league,

1403
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 5: it's on one. It's on one. I'm gonna switch it

1404
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 5: up on second and ten and go power I left.

1405
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 5: Twenty three leads You ever going first sound that's always fun. Oh,

1406
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 5: any time you went on too, it was a disaster.

1407
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 5: It woul might as well have been second and fifteen.

1408
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 5: Got that one dumb offensive lineman like Bobby. Yeah, you

1409
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 5: missed the DeSantis and Sandro.

1410
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: Paul, you missed it. Last Tuesday, we had a brainstorming. Uh.

1411
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 3: It had to do with statues, and we were talking

1412
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: about famous statues in Boston and somebody brought up, you know,

1413
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: Paul Revere, and I said, what about Paul Everett?

1414
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: I told Paul. Then the joke didn't stand up on them.

1415
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 4: But Paul was that was? That was a fred? That

1416
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 4: was a Fred gem was that was? That was wonderful.

1417
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 5: I heard contact. He went over, went over like a

1418
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 5: lid balloon.

1419
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 6: People didn't get it at first, but then they got it.

1420
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 5: Got a town from there, He's from there. You're not

1421
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 5: even from here. There's not even a statue of Paul Everett.

1422
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: An Everett from Everett to Everest, the Paul Perillo story.

1423
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 5: From Salkin, from Sorkin to Salkin. Day two of them

1424
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 5: were already off the rails.

1425
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: Andrew and Bradford writes in uh question mainly for Evan.

1426
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 6: Sorry guys, but all feel free to comments.

1427
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: Based on the Vegas odds, the Patriots aren't favored in

1428
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: any individual game this year. If the odds are any indication,

1429
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: the team is likely going to be trailing in games

1430
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: a lot for an offense that's supposed to be focused

1431
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 3: on establishing the run game to set up explosive passes.

1432
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: How will this be impacted if the Patriots fall behind

1433
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: early in a number of their games? What did you

1434
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: notice from a VP offenses in the asked when they

1435
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: did fall behind by multiple scores?

1436
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 5: Good luck on that one.

1437
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good question, because this is a nippick

1438
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 7: of my boy, Kyle Shanahan is often that the forty

1439
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 7: nine ers don't have a ton of comebacks because their

1440
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 7: offense and their team is an on schedule operation, and

1441
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 7: it's something that does get nippicked a little bit about

1442
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 7: this coaching tree and about this offensive system that you know, Yeah,

1443
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 7: when you are playing at least from a neutral script

1444
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 7: or ahead, then everything is humming along, and you know,

1445
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 7: you can run the ball, and you can set up

1446
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 7: your play action and you can sequence it together, and

1447
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 7: then you get down by two scores and they tend

1448
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 7: not to come back in those games because of the

1449
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 7: way they're built. So it's a good question, and I

1450
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 7: guess it remains to be seen how much of an

1451
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 7: impact it has, but it's certainly something that people have

1452
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 7: talked about in the past with the Shanahan Tree and

1453
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 7: with this offense.

1454
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 6: So correct me if I'm wrong.

1455
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: But we're about forty five minutes into this practice and

1456
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 3: we really haven't seen any offense defense work yet.

1457
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you are not wrong. No, it's been a little different,

1458
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: a little different than yesterday.

1459
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 8: You're not wrong.

1460
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 10: But I also feel like yesterday they didn't do special

1461
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 10: teams work, so maybe that's why they focused a little

1462
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 10: bit more on that, and then they'll get to the

1463
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 10: offense defense.

1464
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 7: We're also fifteen minutes longer today.

1465
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yesterday scheduled to be till twelve forty five today.

1466
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 5: The running thing, you know, the run to set up

1467
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 5: the explosive plays. I mean, I would just say that

1468
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 5: I I agree with that premise and that overall philosophy,

1469
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's like you don't want to

1470
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: fall behind like obviously, you know, any team would rather.

1471
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: You know, the best teams in football will be the

1472
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 5: ones that get leads and keep leads and dictate, right,

1473
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 5: That's the way that the dynasty was built. Yep, you know.

1474
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: But I don't think you necessarily have to run the

1475
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 5: ball overly effectively to set up those explosive plays. I think,

1476
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 5: and I heard old friend Mike Lombardi talking about this yesterday.

1477
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 5: Houston is one of the worst rushing teams in the

1478
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 5: league last year, and they were one of the most

1479
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 5: effective at play action. So they couldn't run the ball,

1480
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 5: but every time they play actions, they were successful doing it.

1481
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 5: So I don't necessarily think one has to happen for

1482
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 5: the other to exist.

1483
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 7: The nerds are applauding you, Paul. They're applauding you because

1484
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 7: this is something that we've believed.

1485
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 5: Given Mike Lombardi credit. But I heard him say it

1486
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 5: and I.

1487
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: Agreed with it, So he's right.

1488
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 5: There's more than a little fact in that, because I

1489
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 5: if it was something I didn't agree with, I probably

1490
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 5: would have ripped him right. But I did agree with

1491
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 5: thanks giving me some little hope with the nerds.

1492
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 7: I'm surprised that Michae Lombardi said it because he's a

1493
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 7: little bit from the old school football type of thing,

1494
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 7: and this has been a debate between the nerds and

1495
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: and the football you know, the actual football players. I

1496
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 7: would say, is this whole run game success versus play

1497
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 7: action success. The data would tell you that volume of

1498
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 7: running and successive running has no bearing on the success

1499
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 7: of your play action passing game. Now, the people that

1500
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 7: play the sport would tell you that body blows matter.

1501
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 7: You keep getting run you know, they keep running the

1502
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 7: ball on you, and then eventually that's going to open

1503
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 7: up play action passes and it's making you more eager

1504
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 7: to jump into your run fits and all that kind

1505
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 7: of stuff. But over the course of time. But we

1506
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 7: have data that suggests that those two are not correlated.

1507
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 7: What really opens up play action passing is just marrying

1508
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 7: it to the running game and making it all look

1509
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 7: the same for the defense, so everything looks like it's

1510
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 7: a run play until it's not a run play. If

1511
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 7: you do that type of stuff and you marry the

1512
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 7: two together, then you'll have play action passing success, not

1513
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 7: necessarily if you average five yards carry. Now, when the

1514
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 7: Browns were humming, they were doing both. They were averaging

1515
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 7: five yards to carry and they were hitting the play

1516
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 7: action plays. But you know last year with the Browns,

1517
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 7: they were second in the league in air yards per

1518
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 7: pass attempt on early downs Like this is not designed

1519
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 7: to be a dink and dunk offense. You know, they

1520
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 7: want to throw the ball down the field, they want

1521
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 7: to push the ball deep. That's a big part of

1522
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 7: the offense, and it is a little bit different than

1523
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 7: what we've seen around here. Now when they get into

1524
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 7: third down, there'll be more traditional West Coast and it

1525
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 7: will be a little bit more timing based. But in

1526
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 7: terms of the early down offense, this is a chuck

1527
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 7: it down the field type of offense. They are not

1528
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 7: looking to throw five yard slants on first down.

1529
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 4: It's interesting to me because I think the implication with

1530
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 4: you know, being able to run affecting you know, is

1531
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 4: that the defense is like, oh crap, man, we can't

1532
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 4: stop the run.

1533
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 5: We got it. We have to get up there every

1534
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 5: time that we got to play. And it's not really that.

1535
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 4: It's really more about confusing the defense. It's not about

1536
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 4: putting them on their heels and saying we can't stop

1537
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: the run. It's that they just don't know and they

1538
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: have to react to the run because they're kind of

1539
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 4: on their heels already.

1540
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense.

1541
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: Yep, let's see Louie right sin can Paul just admit

1542
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 3: he's wrong? But you really name sim Can you really

1543
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: name seven players that we should have let walk and

1544
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: not have resigned? Shape was great two years ago. He's young,

1545
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: and it's a great contract. We were all saying at

1546
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: some point that he might get a big contract from

1547
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: another team, and Jennings was pretty good and that was

1548
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: also a great contract.

1549
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, Okay, so you I can definitely

1550
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 5: name seven guys, but you disagree with them. But that's okay,

1551
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: Like we don't have to have the same scouting report

1552
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 5: on players. I think those guys are jags. You think

1553
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 5: they were worth resigning. We can disagree on that.

1554
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: Well, but I also think he says they're worth resigning

1555
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 3: at the contract they resigned them.

1556
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, But I mean, like, so I don't

1557
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 5: have to admit I was wrong. I just have a

1558
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 5: different opinion than you.

1559
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 6: But you need a strong middle class, Paul.

1560
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I think that's the whole roster is a middle class.

1561
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 6: Okay.

1562
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 5: They need, they need the penthouse is what they need.

1563
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 5: They need stars.

1564
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 6: Well, he's wearing agreed.

1565
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 5: Okayt's relax. I did enough of that yesterday, Tim Wrights, yesterday,

1566
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 5: in three hours, Tim Rights.

1567
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: And Ryland please change his number. Seeing a kicker wearing

1568
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: thirty seven just looks wrong. He looks like a kid

1569
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 3: who dresses Rodney Harrison for Halloween.

1570
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 5: You know, we were talking a little bit about receivers

1571
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 5: early in this in the in the program, Yes, can

1572
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 5: I ask you, guys, what if anything you've noticed from

1573
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 5: Taekwon Thornton.

1574
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 6: Nothing?

1575
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 7: Nothing, He fred that was harsh, decent practices in the

1576
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 7: spring and then immediately got hurt on it or missed.

1577
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 7: I shouldn't say hurts don't missed. The last day of

1578
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 7: mini camp. Was invisible yesterday, like Jalen Rager has flat

1579
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 7: out out played him. Like I know we all think

1580
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 7: Jalen Rager is a jag to use the las term,

1581
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 7: but Jalen Rager has just flat out been better, well

1582
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 7: he should be, and in regular season games, in actual

1583
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 7: games and in practice.

1584
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 10: He's a spring long I've been saying I don't have

1585
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 10: Taekwon Thornton making his team.

1586
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 5: No, I don't either. But what I meant, more so

1587
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 5: was not really about how he's playing. Like I talked

1588
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 5: about all the different guys that were in an out

1589
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 5: of the line up yesterday, I didn't really notice him,

1590
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 5: Well where is he He's just he's just he's at

1591
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 5: the fifty yard line, okay, just on the right from

1592
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 5: the field, on the right, I see him going, But

1593
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 5: I like I I saw, you know, a half dozen

1594
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 5: receivers in and out of the lineup, guys in the slot,

1595
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: guys outside. I didn't really notice eleven a lot yet. No,

1596
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 5: I didn't notice eighty either. Yeah, I didn't notice it.

1597
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 5: And now that you bring that up, Mike, I didn't

1598
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 5: notice a lot of booty either.

1599
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, I missed.

1600
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 5: I missed my booty. I would love to know.

1601
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 10: I would love to know what's going on in Taekwon

1602
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 10: Thornton's head, because when you look around your wide receiver

1603
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 10: room and see, like, not all of us are going

1604
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 10: to make this team. Like, do you think that your

1605
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 10: practice yesterday reflected that you should make it?

1606
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 6: Right now? It sounds like your finger wagging.

1607
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 5: I don't think that he had anything wrong in practice.

1608
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 5: I didn't see him. I didn't see him in the

1609
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 5: in the Yeah, but that's not up to him. That's

1610
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 5: my point. Like, I just I wonder if they've just

1611
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 5: kind of written him off off, Like what's that list

1612
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 5: of guys, Mike that you talked to the other guy,

1613
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 5: the other low ones he was he was with Jackson,

1614
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 5: he was with them yesterday was.

1615
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 7: A little bit too. But I think he's maybe a

1616
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 7: little bit behind because of the thumb injury, and now

1617
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 7: he's you know, it was missed a little.

1618
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 5: Time, but he got some some reps in the sevens and.

1619
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 7: I did I saw a Taekwon out there. You did

1620
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 7: see him, okay, because I see him. He was running routes,

1621
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 7: but in terms of his actually that.

1622
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 5: Makes me feel better.

1623
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 7: It was zero and uh, it just it just goes

1624
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 7: to show how far away he is because they are

1625
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 7: desperately starving for any sort of vertical speed element to

1626
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 7: this offense. And you have this guy that runs like

1627
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 7: the wind but just can't make an impact in an

1628
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 7: in a football setting, and it's they're starving for it.

1629
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 7: They're screaming for him. And I see Devon Devon Godshaw

1630
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 7: sighting overyonder.

1631
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 5: Yes, oh here he comes walking out.

1632
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 7: So he I would say, based off of his holding,

1633
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 7: Demeter is holding in.

1634
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. With with back to Thornton, do you think the

1635
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 3: injuries that he had his first year kind of ruined

1636
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 3: him a little bit?

1637
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 6: Like I just don't think he's that good.

1638
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 4: I know, I just don't think he's a He's not

1639
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: a dog, right, Like I don't want to say like

1640
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 4: that sounds stupid, but like he's not physical.

1641
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 5: I mean all he is is tall, like kind of

1642
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 5: tall and fast.

1643
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 4: Like he's got no real like physicality to his game.

1644
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 4: And I think the only hope I had was that

1645
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 4: in a new offense, they weren't gonna try to like

1646
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 4: run him into the line or have him trying to

1647
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 4: crack block guy, you know, like some of the stuff

1648
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 4: they did when he got hurt. It's like, well, yeah,

1649
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 4: you're you're sending him into the line, uh, to try

1650
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 4: to block. I just I don't know, I didn't see it.

1651
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I did clock him for one catch yesterday, Booty.

1652
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize was out here yesterday.

1653
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 8: Mike.

1654
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 10: I don't think it's stupid what you said about him

1655
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 10: not being a dog. I feel like to play both

1656
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 10: wide receiver and defensive back, you have to have that

1657
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 10: it factor, that dog in you.

1658
01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like that's part.

1659
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: Even talk A big point from from Hard Knocks, which

1660
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: was like Molik Neighbors who just has that vibe of

1661
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 4: like I want to win so bad, you know, And

1662
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: it's uh, you know, And I don't mean anything a

1663
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 4: guy like like his personality wise, like it's just the

1664
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: way he plays the game. It doesn't really you know,

1665
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 4: you don't see his speed ever really being a factor.

1666
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 4: I mean, how many the only time he looks really

1667
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: good running is when they do that drill where they

1668
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 4: have to like every five feet there's a cone and

1669
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 4: they have to like step over, and you're like, all right,

1670
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 4: he's he's a long stridery it looks pretty good.

1671
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 5: But even like just.

1672
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 4: Comparing him to like the short, choppy, kind of powerful

1673
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 4: strides Javon Baker's about to go right now that that

1674
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: he kind of runs with just an aggressiveness, and I

1675
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 4: just I don't see any aggressiveness in take in Taekwon Thornon.

1676
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 7: I was kind of hoping that up quarterback like May

1677
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 7: would at least give him us a look about what

1678
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 7: he could do down the field. Uh, he's built in

1679
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 7: a lot of ways like tes Walker down in North

1680
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 7: Carolina who had a great year, Uh well when he

1681
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 7: was available for his productive for Carolina with Drake May.

1682
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 7: And you have a quarterback like Drake May that is

1683
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 7: so good throwing the ball deep that Mac Jones just

1684
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 7: wasn't necessarily that type of quarterback. So I thought maybe

1685
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 7: that that could potentially unlock Taekwon a little bit. Where

1686
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 7: now we have a quarterback that can hit him fifty

1687
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 7: yards down the field in stride, whereas before maybe you didn't.

1688
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 7: But so far it's just it does. It's just not there.

1689
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 5: It's like the Ragger like that should have been Thornton.

1690
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: That should be Thornton doing that Rager thing is today

1691
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 4: where you know what I mean, and it just has

1692
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: never it is, it hasn't happened.

1693
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 5: That's not him. Yeah, I totally agree with with Evan.

1694
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 5: I think Rager has been better. Can I throw out

1695
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 5: something for Godshaw? Like, you know, I'm just watching me.

1696
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 5: He doesn't have his helmet with him. He looks like

1697
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 5: he's just kind of he's watching that mass Live tweet

1698
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 5: that said that Christian Barmore might be under the weather.

1699
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 5: I wonder if maybe Godshaw I'm serious, I'm the both

1700
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 5: defensive linemen.

1701
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 3: They kind of look like lockers near each other.

1702
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 5: Just possibility, you know, I don't know. People get them

1703
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 5: away from the rest of the team. What are we doing?

1704
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 5: What fenized fragenizing in the middle of the field.

1705
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 3: That's a good point, Mike, Yeah, we might be holding

1706
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: in on.

1707
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 5: It could be holding in I mean, my my gut

1708
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 5: reaction is that it's contractual. It just comes out in

1709
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 5: the related You guys are ready for team, I'll watch

1710
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 5: the team for you.

1711
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1712
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 6: So now I think we're gonna get a little team

1713
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 6: action here.

1714
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 5: Here you go. Fred usually have to pay extra for that.

1715
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 6: Cor eleven if anyone's watching. So about an hour.

1716
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 5: That was pretty good, Paul.

1717
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 7: This happens when we start to get these two hours.

1718
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 5: I do know. But now it's like, all right, team periods,

1719
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 5: let's go all right. So yeah, no bar more here,

1720
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, based on what we had heard, not not

1721
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 5: really a huge surprise. No, uh, no Judon either.

1722
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 7: No, Jude's out there out there.

1723
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm looking at the wrong side. Right, I'm

1724
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 5: looking at the wrong side armand Watts.

1725
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 7: Think that's Distra and cut on.

1726
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 5: But still still no Barmboa though, No no bottom one.

1727
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: Oh oh, and from the looks of it has not

1728
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 3: yet taken over the starting shot.

1729
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 8: Thank you, Fred for the obvious.

1730
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 7: Did he catch that?

1731
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 5: I think he did? I think I think he caught it.

1732
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I'll give it to him.

1733
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 5: Wow, who's he? Hunter? Henry Hunter?

1734
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: Hen?

1735
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 7: I think that's a sack in the game.

1736
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 5: Oh well, I mean that's that's different. I think he

1737
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 5: caught it. I think it was.

1738
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: If anyone's interested where Gerard Mayo is, he's behind the offense.

1739
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: So we got we got a little Venerian low now

1740
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 5: at that right tackles, Is that who we got?

1741
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 7: Yes? Otherwise I have to admit I do not love

1742
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 7: He was not very good at right tackle. Is putting

1743
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 7: it politely?

1744
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 8: Do you prefer him or Calvin Anderson?

1745
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: Though same right Venerian Lowe was.

1746
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 7: I know what Vederian Moe is at right tackle, and

1747
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 7: that's not gonna cut it. At least with Calvin Anderson.

1748
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 7: There's a little bit of an upside or an unknown.

1749
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 5: The only thing I'll give Calvin Anderson is when he

1750
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 5: played last year, knowing what we know now, he was

1751
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 5: clearly not at a hundred sick. So he was bad.

1752
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 5: Calvin Anderson was bad in that Miami game. Yes, in

1753
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 5: week two. I'm still going on some eleven's here ball

1754
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 5: out quick, yeah.

1755
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 7: Juju seven, pitch pitch her out, hitch, hitch beat some pressure,

1756
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 7: got the ball out. And that's what Those are the

1757
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 7: things that you know. The friend's point about the coaches

1758
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 7: see things that maybe we don't. The things that you

1759
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 7: see with Jacoby is that the ball comes out on time. Yeah,

1760
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 7: and it's not dynamic, it's not dangerous. He's not a

1761
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 7: playmaker back there, but he gets the ball out on

1762
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 7: time and he runs the huddle like a professional, and

1763
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 7: those types of things are what are going to to

1764
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 7: keep him in in this job right now.

1765
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 5: So well to Henry at the Tristan Hill out there

1766
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 5: getting somewhere, is that ninety seven Tristan, Yes it is.

1767
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 4: It might be this just some little rotation going on.

1768
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 4: You got schooler going getting some reps with the what

1769
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 4: would look to be mostly a lot of the starters

1770
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 4: on defense, Romandre. So you think Rere's gonna be the

1771
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,440
Speaker 4: workhorse if it all goes according to plan. Remandre workhorse,

1772
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 4: I have no choice. But do you think it's like

1773
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 4: clean cut where it's that was Kevin Harrison, Remandre or

1774
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 4: Gibson any down or do you kind of say mostly

1775
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: Romandre first second, Gibson third down?

1776
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 5: Maybe more of a.

1777
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: Early on you want to establish Romandre as a guy

1778
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: who can also catch the ball.

1779
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 5: Well that's what I mean, Yeah, you can. He's he's it,

1780
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 5: He's got that ability.

1781
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 7: There comes Taekwon Thor and Christian Gonzalez.

1782
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's watch this one. Here we go the.

1783
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 7: Right side of your screen.

1784
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 5: But now I'm seeing Amandre empty, Gus Red.

1785
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so there we go man coverage.

1786
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: He got open. Oh that's I couldn't hold on.

1787
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 4: But that again, I think that's everything we've been kind

1788
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: of talking about, which is poke. Poke didn't really separate.

1789
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 4: Looked like he had a chance though, to come down

1790
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 4: with it. Couldn't couldn't come down played by Marcus played

1791
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 4: by Marcus Jones. And like I said, I think we

1792
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 4: all saw Thornton. If it was quick bang bang, might

1793
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: have might have been a play there for him.

1794
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 7: That was an empty look and they just had man

1795
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,879
Speaker 7: coverage across the board. Find your shot again.

1796
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 5: Though, you know, it seems like Drake and quiet, quiet

1797
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 5: on set, superstars and quiet on.

1798
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 6: The set, man at work.

1799
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, So like that's what's the case yesterday. It's a

1800
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 5: second offensive line that I.

1801
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 6: Was saying, really not setting him up to succeed.

1802
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 5: But when you stay like you did yesterday at right Guard,

1803
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 5: which I think is interesting.

1804
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have Osbourne, Henry and Taekwon, so he is

1805
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 7: getting some of the I think that's Hermond.

1806
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, the receiver was just constantly rotating.

1807
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I ze.

1808
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 3: Friend in school with those daisy dukes, daisy dukes.

1809
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 7: And then some a little bit more mid zone or

1810
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 7: inside zone today, that's gonna be the compliment, you know.

1811
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Mike and I would think of the

1812
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 5: same thing.

1813
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 7: They call it mid zone, which it's semantics, but yeah,

1814
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 7: that's gonna be the compliment. Right, you're gonna and then

1815
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:49,440
Speaker 7: you're gonna have some pin poll Paul, which is the curveball.

1816
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 5: So I throw that stuff at t J all the time.

1817
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 5: He just mocks me and I do the Fred sniff afterwards. Yeah,

1818
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: I don't want to see more of those pulling.

1819
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 6: It down the running.

1820
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: We don't like that.

1821
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 5: But he looked good doing it. Not as good as

1822
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 5: he did yesterday. No, no, not an Allen. Yesterday was like

1823
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 5: Nick Josh.

1824
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 7: He just so pretty.

1825
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: Alex Van Pelt getting a little practice calling in the plays.

1826
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: He's got the walkie talkie.

1827
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 5: So remember those days twenty twenty two, how many snaps

1828
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 5: are sent there on that half?

1829
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 7: He was one, two, three, four five boy alright, So

1830
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 7: he got Jalen Polk out there with him, and I

1831
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 7: think that's Rager on the other side.

1832
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 4: Poke on the outside and Mitchell Wilcox getting some some

1833
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 4: run on the inside with mister Hooper.

1834
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 5: The Polk Alex Austin matchup.

1835
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 7: There what we've all been waiting for.

1836
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got him. He got open on that one.

1837
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see him though, no pressure right away

1838
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: and may Yeah.

1839
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, it looked like blown block there.

1840
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 5: But I liked that route by uh yeah, by Polk

1841
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 5: on that one. Yeah, that was a little window. Got

1842
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 5: got good inside leverage right off the right, off the

1843
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 5: snap leverage fucking mid zone. Know, we stacked him that

1844
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 5: corner got out of face. The sniff was coming, you know.

1845
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 5: Receivers are trying to stack the guy. They that's what

1846
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 5: they try to do. In other words, they try to

1847
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 5: get the defender behind him so he hasn't had the

1848
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 5: angle to get around.

1849
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 4: So and then as I as I put this in

1850
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 4: my head, so obviously pin and pole you're getting you're

1851
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 4: getting the end to bite on the zone going the

1852
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 4: other way, but it's really going no right.

1853
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 7: No pinin pole is like essentially just the zone.

1854
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying like your left, your left tackle is gonna

1855
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 4: block down and your right, your left guard is gonna

1856
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 4: come around.

1857
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 5: So if I'm the right defensive ene. It's like a

1858
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 5: stunt on defense.

1859
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's the Zone family's version of like counter right,

1860
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 7: So like you're you're essentially you're gonna pin down and

1861
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 7: then there's gonna be an unblocked guy for a second,

1862
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 7: but then you're gonna hear home with the polar and

1863
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 7: then that's how you pin and poll.

1864
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 5: It's Andy Greshwood, like that old guy. That's what they're

1865
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 5: telling Taekwon to do.

1866
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 7: But yeah, the Browns are were a big pin pole operation,

1867
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 7: so I would expect to see a bunch of that.

1868
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 3: Sipping on pin and pull nice laid back I like it.

1869
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 4: Maman on wat Zone, I don't watch so.

1870
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 5: I can't resist a little snoop five each. There a

1871
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 5: little too many running places let them throw.

1872
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't. Again, we don't know exactly

1873
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: what they're doing out there, but they didn't have a

1874
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: lot of time. There were a lot of people in

1875
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 3: the backfield there.

1876
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 5: Well, they ran the ball three in the place that's

1877
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 5: kind of unfortunately.

1878
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 6: A car for it's a big guy.

1879
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: Huh yeah six six.

1880
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't, I haven't. I don't think i've clocked

1881
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,440
Speaker 5: him in person yet. I am curious because.

1882
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 7: He's got an athletic built.

1883
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 6: He does.

1884
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 7: He's built like a left tackle. It's not like they're

1885
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 7: trying to put you know, like an you know, like

1886
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 7: who's built stocky like a guard and you're putting him

1887
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 7: out of a tackle. You can see the body type

1888
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 7: of a left tackle. It's just all going to be

1889
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 7: whether or not he can he can flip his his

1890
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 7: hands and his feet and everything. But you look at

1891
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,480
Speaker 7: him just with your eyes and you see an athletic.

1892
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 7: He's built, you know, long human being.

1893
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 5: Who gets done first.

1894
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 4: God charge, you know, does the hold in work or

1895
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 4: does the I'll play on it if I have to work.

1896
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 7: I'm still wondering what Davon Godshaw's leverage or just what

1897
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 7: his thought processes like.

1898
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 6: Was this like he.

1899
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: Got an extension last year, right, correct?

1900
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 6: So then what what was the issue with it?

1901
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 5: Now? He wants more money because everybody else got.

1902
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 8: More money, I think, isn't it? Is this the last

1903
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 8: year of it though?

1904
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the last year of his contract. Yeah.

1905
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: No, you know, Jabrill Peppers, he ain't complaining. He's just

1906
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 4: out there doing what he does.

1907
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 8: Jabrill is just happy to be here, right, happy to

1908
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 8: be here.

1909
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 5: That's why we're best friends. He clearly isn't happy, by

1910
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 5: the way, but he handled it very well yesterday. But

1911
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 5: you could tell that he was in that group, like, Hey,

1912
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 5: where's mine I'd do it. I'd do it, I do

1913
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 5: it right now. How old is he, Mike, He's I

1914
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 5: think just a year older than Douggar. Yeah, twenty eight.

1915
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 5: I think I think Douger's twenty seven. He's twenty eight.

1916
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 8: I believe.

1917
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 4: I just I mean, I think he's better than Douglas.

1918
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 4: I just think they're very different, that's fair.

1919
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 5: I mean Peppers is more physical, yeah, and I think

1920
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 5: Douga's pretty physical, but I think Peppers is more physical.

1921
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 5: I think Douger makes more plays.

1922
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm on that. I think dougarug might be a

1923
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 7: little bit more splashy. Peppers might be a little bit

1924
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 7: more solid.

1925
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: Peppers is he's he made some plays last year.

1926
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 5: Did you guys see that? I guess the quote on

1927
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 5: receiver after Peppers blew up? Uh?

1928
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Adams DeVante Adams remember that last year, like forced

1929
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 4: the fumble that almost hit the ceiling, like he hit

1930
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 4: him so hard.

1931
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, pissed at Josh running me into it, like getting

1932
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 5: killed this Thornton and seven on seven Thornton with a catch.

1933
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 5: So again with Mario Douglas looks like he's on a

1934
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 5: similar plan as yesterday. Hasn't really done much in the Yeah,

1935
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 5: he did a teamwork and he's been running sprints back

1936
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 5: behind the end zone again. Now he's back over.

1937
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 8: With the special teams. It looked like he was returning.

1938
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 5: He did do some stuff. I'm kind of confused a

1939
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 5: little on what's going on. I wonder if it's some

1940
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 5: kind of upper body injury as opposed to Yeah, maybe

1941
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, something that prevents who can running.

1942
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 5: But they don't want him to get shoulders I mean

1943
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 5: they don't want to from the shoulders thing. Still, did

1944
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 5: he have a shoulders thing.

1945
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 4: It was, well, he had a shoulders thing as a

1946
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: roof of any and then last year was a shoulders thing.

1947
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 5: He had a shoulders th Remember the concussion.

1948
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good question with him. It's it's the

1949
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 7: only thing that holds me back from saying that he's

1950
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 7: going to be a really productive, high volume players. Is

1951
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 7: he durable enough to be able to do that? You know,

1952
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 7: he's got the talent to be a guy that catches

1953
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 7: you know sixty five seventy passes in the NFL offense,

1954
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 7: But is he going to be able to be out there?

1955
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: There's one downfield, they're broken up.

1956
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 7: There ain't a whole lot of separation.

1957
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 5: There's your guy, locked him up and put the seat belt.

1958
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 5: Put the seatbelt on.

1959
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 8: Bro Mike speak of guys that have that dog in

1960
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 8: the pepper is definitely.

1961
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 4: Literally like take the X right, it's in there. That's well,

1962
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 4: I know who I forget one of the guys.

1963
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 5: Have you seen the guy? He's built like the incredible Hulk.

1964
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 7: My favorite bid is how much deuce peer?

1965
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 5: It's a huge you missed season one? Yes, the best,

1966
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 5: the best player, the best player on the Is he

1967
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 5: that far off? That says a lot depends on I

1968
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 5: didn't ask. I would put him about it in the middle.

1969
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 3: But now you're playing on Paul's side of the street.

1970
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 5: That's all right, I dabbled, No, I think that my

1971
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 5: side of the street is that it's not a no

1972
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 5: brainer answer. I think you could probably have three or

1973
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 5: four different answers. Right, Well, he's my.

1974
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 7: Player on the team, and I still feel like that

1975
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 7: belt belongs to Matthew Judah until proven.

1976
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 5: Right, that's and that's what I said. But you know,

1977
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 5: coming off an injury, wants a contract by the end

1978
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 5: of the And then the next thing she said, Christian Gonzales,

1979
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 5: who you know, I don't know, got hurt the same game.

1980
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 4: No, I mean that's but that's who. It will probably

1981
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 4: be one of it this year. It'll be one of

1982
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 4: those three guys.

1983
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 5: Just to think you don't think I nitpick you Hey

1984
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 5: wrong enough.

1985
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 7: Now, Barmore had the best season out of anybody on

1986
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 7: the team last year.

1987
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 5: It's good Barmore, I think would be oh ju ju

1988
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 5: getting redirected. Think bar Moore might be the answer.

1989
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 8: I think Barbour could be a pro bowler if he

1990
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 8: says healthy, I.

1991
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 7: Think he should have been a pro bowler, which Juju doing?

1992
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 5: Hi ho h?

1993
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 4: No, Thornton was getting redirected Jacoby Brissett pre snap.

1994
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 7: Yeah. The Pro Bowl is interesting because, like the voting

1995
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 7: is always it's no, it's just usually like you have

1996
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 7: to do it once.

1997
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, Joey sli is out there.

1998
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, out there. Like your breakout season is not

1999
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 7: the year you make the Pro Bowl, it's the year

2000
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 7: after your breakout season.

2001
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 5: Now you make everybody that happens a lot.

2002
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like Christian Barmore was a pro bowler

2003
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 7: last year, but it was his first real big season

2004
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 7: for the Masses. Bricky year was good too.

2005
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 5: But May's out there all right, don't talking Joey slies

2006
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 5: about to do something misfiring from forty till Rake kind

2007
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 5: of pats it a little bit.

2008
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 7: I don't slant.

2009
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 5: I don't want slant. I want slants on the back shoulder.

2010
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 3: And in the UK says, uh, we've spoken a lot

2011
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: about how May needs to beat out Brissette to get

2012
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 3: the starting job.

2013
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 6: What a Brisset is really bad? But May is just okay?

2014
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 6: Who do you start?

2015
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 5: If May is not ready?

2016
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 4: Then you start per set right right, Especially to like,

2017
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 4: I feel like there is value in getting to know,

2018
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 4: really know your office.

2019
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 8: You know, you don't want to take back what I said.

2020
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 5: Yes when you put in so you know when you

2021
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 5: got when you put in Drake.

2022
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 4: You kind of have some sense of where your problem

2023
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 4: areas are, You know what your strength might be, and

2024
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 4: you can kind of manage it a little bit better

2025
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 4: rather than going into that first game where for every

2026
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 4: team it's you're a little blind, you don't know exactly

2027
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 4: what you got until you start hitting.

2028
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 5: I completely agree with that.

2029
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 7: Stevenson just in a little discomfort after this catch.

2030
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 5: Is he sick? Are you mocking? Just it's going around, Paul.

2031
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2032
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 7: It doesn't look like he's seeking out trainers right now,

2033
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 7: but he he is hunched over there for a second.

2034
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 5: By the way of it, my ankle still hurts from

2035
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 5: that fall on Brady Day, just.

2036
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 8: Tumbling down the stairs.

2037
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 3: Yes, the older you get, the longer it takes going.

2038
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just like today you've arrived.

2039
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's I think it's a I

2040
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 4: was trying to be like, man, I'd be pretty cool

2041
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: for high.

2042
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 8: Ankle stre We are you texting and walking?

2043
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 10: Though?

2044
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 4: Well, technically I was trying to track down my suit

2045
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 4: for the night, and I was a little bit frazzled Tom,

2046
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 4: and I was walking downstairs looking at my phone.

2047
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 5: Folks, don't do it public service announcement. You will fall.

2048
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 5: Luckily the cut on my right knee, he'll he'll you

2049
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 5: necessarily fall.

2050
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: That must have hurt, though, Oh no, it's definitely hurt.

2051
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 10: But my ankle is Did your ego hurt more than

2052
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 10: the actual cut?

2053
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 5: Oh?

2054
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 6: He was crying like message.

2055
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 5: No, I was glad Evan.

2056
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 4: As he was going down, I was like, I was

2057
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 4: almos gonna help him, but I almost I almost.

2058
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 7: Tried to catch him, but I felt like he was

2059
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 7: just gonna knock me over.

2060
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 3: Hurt.

2061
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think if no one would have been around

2062
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 10: to see the fall, I wouldn't have.

2063
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 8: Hurt a batch.

2064
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 5: See.

2065
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 4: I'm so demented though that. Like anytime I experienced a

2066
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 4: minor injury, I always look at it through the like

2067
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 4: the view of like can I play no, of like

2068
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 4: a Patriot's injury? Like like so I'm like, I'm like, oh,

2069
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 4: is this a high ankle? Like is this what it

2070
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 4: felt like for Cronking? Super Bowl forty six? Like when

2071
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 4: I heard my ribs, I'm like, man, you know, did

2072
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: Brady play through ribbon jery like this?

2073
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 7: Like exactly was his face?

2074
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 5: Seven?

2075
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 10: Was his face like back going down the stairs after

2076
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 10: his injury.

2077
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 5: Talk about moments that to find mac Jones's tenure hair. Yeah,

2078
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 5: that one boy. Tough picture, tough picture.

2079
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 7: A couple of completions here in sevens for Drake Many.

2080
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 5: Another catch for Thornton.

2081
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, A quick hitch to kJ Osborne, another shake and

2082
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 7: Baker to Jabon Baker.

2083
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 8: I love how you keep saying that Mike shakea bank.

2084
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 4: Someone else came up with Drake and Bake, and I

2085
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: kind of like that one too, So I don't know

2086
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 4: if I can steal that.

2087
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 8: Shake Bake Dragon Bake.

2088
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 7: He is uh yet to balls yet to hit the

2089
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 7: ground here in the seven on seven Wow.

2090
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:50,440
Speaker 5: Wow, Brady, Like for what it's worth, it's not worth average.

2091
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 7: Depth of target of about five and a half d You.

2092
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 5: Know I was gonna, I was being nice. I was

2093
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 5: thinking the ball has also yet to travel more than

2094
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 5: five yards in the air.

2095
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 7: But hey, it's context, Paul, it's on Texas Key.

2096
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 5: I let it go.

2097
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 10: I forgot who asked this earlier. But do you think

2098
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 10: the training wheels are going to be on for a.

2099
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 7: While for Drake may I don't think Drake Mells knows

2100
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 7: what training wheels are, right, So that's it.

2101
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 5: I think I wanted it.

2102
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 7: A big difference is, you know, his playing style wheels

2103
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 7: is not is not training wheels, Like if you it's

2104
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 7: gonna be hard to rain that guy in I. I

2105
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 7: just don't feel like he plays that way at all,

2106
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 7: Whereas I feel like Mac was always so buttoned up.

2107
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 5: Something I might find I might be the only one

2108
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 5: finding interesting. Continuing the seven on sevens Joe Milton before yes.

2109
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 4: I guess Zapp's day wasn't quite that good yesterday, hold on,

2110
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 4: hold the phone, but hey, maybe maybe they liked what

2111
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 4: they saw a couple of reps in Milton yesterday and

2112
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 4: give them a couple more.

2113
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 7: He's the reps. Ye, see what he does with him?

2114
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 5: You can't cut that, arm I haven't been trying to

2115
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 5: redirect one of your trio of see I it was,

2116
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 5: Oh and now they're disgusting. I can't stand it, right, Brady,

2117
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 5: we haven't.

2118
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 10: It.

2119
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I'm going to give Milton a check here,

2120
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 5: Like he looks like he's annoyed at the receivers for

2121
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 5: not knowing where they're supposed to be. Come on, guys, whatever,

2122
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 5: that's good leadership.

2123
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 7: We got this in the hotel last night.

2124
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 5: Come on, that's good leadership. You mean the meetings this morning, Evan,

2125
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 5: Joey Milton quick trigger.

2126
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 7: See those are the throwers that are just that's gonna

2127
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 7: be tough for him, you know, slants and stuff.

2128
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 5: It's not Cam Newton.

2129
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 4: Because Cam Newton I feel like had to like build

2130
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 4: up the like many of unleadship, whereas Milton just kind of,

2131
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 4: you know, it's just a quick kind of unload.

2132
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 5: It seems like guys have a little trouble fits. Milton

2133
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 5: doesn't look like he's throwing a bowlder like cam, you know,

2134
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 5: like the bowling bag bars that he would throw.

2135
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 3: According to this emailer, News just broke, potential trade candidate

2136
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 3: and impending free agent Broncos wide receiver Courtland Sutton agreed

2137
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 3: to our restructured contract.

2138
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 6: Okay eh, Courtland Sutton.

2139
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 4: I can't do this with every single receiver who possibly

2140
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 4: might be available this year. Like no, well, I'm gonna

2141
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 4: worry about that next year, Like I'm moving on with

2142
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 4: this group and we're gonna let this play out, and

2143
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: it's probably not gonna be great, but you got to

2144
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,600
Speaker 4: hopefully set the table for next year that that you

2145
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 4: can try to get that guy.

2146
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 5: If Mac, you know, if Drake, I think they should

2147
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 5: be aggressive in the free agent market because somebody's gonna

2148
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 5: be available. Can't imagine all of these guys are going

2149
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 5: to get a deal.

2150
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 8: It seems like, do you think it's gonna come down

2151
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 8: to more than money?

2152
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 3: Though?

2153
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 10: Do you think it's gonna be a situation where someone's

2154
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 10: gonna want to want to play here under your quarterback.

2155
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 4: Well that's and that's what I mean, Like, you know,

2156
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 4: you wanna like we want to feel like that there's

2157
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 4: a spark from this team and you want the rest

2158
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 4: of the league to say, geez, you know there's something

2159
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 4: like what they're doing, yeah Fox, you know, like how

2160
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 4: do you think Stefan Diggs as much of it as

2161
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 4: a jerky as like some of that. He must have

2162
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 4: been excited, you know when he saw what what what

2163
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 4: Josh Allen was doing. You know it's like, all right,

2164
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 4: this is a young kid and I'm going to be

2165
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: his guy.

2166
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 5: And you know it's especially if you say, come.

2167
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 4: Out of this year and all right, we've got you know,

2168
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 4: some guys on the inside with with Douglas or Baker

2169
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 4: who just caught one from Milton.

2170
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 5: You know, if you could just have one.

2171
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 4: Or two of these guys emerge next to you know,

2172
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 4: the role that that that Pop Douglas is kind of filled,

2173
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 4: which I consider for receivers back catches here for jay.

2174
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 10: Von Baker because for me personally, like if I'm you know,

2175
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 10: Brendan Ayuk and if I want to go from Sunny

2176
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 10: California all the way to the northeast. Like, of course

2177
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 10: that would come for the bag, but I also want

2178
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 10: to be playing for a quarterback, not just getting a bag.

2179
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 8: But then I'm not getting anything on the field.

2180
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 5: Well, it's not as sunny in San Francisco as it

2181
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 5: is in l A.

2182
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 8: And no better rather than here, just as expensive.

2183
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 5: I'm not sketchy watherwise.

2184
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 7: That's why I'm not like I'm concerned about waiting all

2185
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 7: the way to free agency because you're, let's face it

2186
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 7: right now, you are not an attractive destiny. And we

2187
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 7: just saw this happened with Calvin Ridley where boom. Yeah,

2188
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 7: we can say that maybe the Titans offered him a

2189
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 7: little bit more money, but all things created equal, I

2190
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 7: think he just wanted to be in Nashville instead of Year,

2191
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 7: and he wanted to play for that team instead of

2192
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 7: this team. And that's the difference. Like, if t Higgins

2193
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 7: is the one prize free agent in the wide receiver

2194
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 7: market next year, which is where this is trending, he's

2195
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 7: gonna have ten teams that are going to be interested

2196
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 7: in signing him and you're just one of the ten.

2197
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 7: Whereas if you trade for the player that's your he's yours,

2198
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 7: like you can't you know, Brandon not you no offense,

2199
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 7: he has no choice. Yeah, if he gets traded from

2200
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 7: San Francisco to the Patriots, he's a Patriot. There's something

2201
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 7: you can do about it. So that's my concern about

2202
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 7: wait until free agency is now you'd get into a

2203
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 7: bidding war with you know, eight and ten eight eight

2204
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 7: to ten other teams that all want the guy, and

2205
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 7: all it takes his one team that he feels like

2206
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 7: is a little bit better off than you are.

2207
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 5: And now you it's a really good point. If you

2208
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 5: wait until free agency, then you have to fight the

2209
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 5: other thirty one teams. That's why an ideal you just

2210
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 5: you draft the guy. You know, that's well ideally, we're

2211
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 5: not worried about it because Polk and Baker are really

2212
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 5: good as rookies. And you're like, okay, I like what,

2213
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 5: I like what we have one of those guys. I

2214
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 5: mean he's profiling as a top flight receiver.

2215
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 4: That's what no one would say, And I mean it's

2216
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 4: probably the long long shot of what if those guys.

2217
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 5: Are actually really good? Ye, It's like, you know, you

2218
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 5: know the argument that you and I had at the

2219
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 5: beginning about the offensive line. Absolutely, if all of those

2220
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,879
Speaker 5: things happen, then it changes the narrative.

2221
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's and I mean, you know, to be fair,

2222
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 4: Paul and I intimated this a little bit on when

2223
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 4: I was on the raid of this morning. It's like,

2224
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 4: I don't know that the receivers are going to be fine,

2225
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 4: Like I don't have that kind of you know, you know,

2226
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 4: optimism that it'll be a okay, I I think they

2227
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 4: might really struggle, you know, explosive plays down the field,

2228
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 4: that the stuff that Evan's been talking about that you know,

2229
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 4: really are the reward of this offense. You know, if

2230
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 4: you execute this offense on early downs, it's going to

2231
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 4: open up those big plays and when they're there, you

2232
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 4: have to be able to hit them. And you know,

2233
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 4: if they just don't have the horses that can get

2234
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 4: behind the coverage and you know, really stressed defenses, it's

2235
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: it's just it might not really all come together in

2236
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: the way that it needs to.

2237
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 3: Oh well, it looks like we're gonna get a little

2238
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 3: eleven on eleven.

2239
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 5: Now let's go to eleven eleven eleven.

2240
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 4: Jock Cooby, jeez, I yeah, Jacoby's seven. The first time

2241
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 4: he's here, right, I just brain farted back to that

2242
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 4: in my notes. All of a sudden, for some reason,

2243
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 4: he was.

2244
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 3: Donnie, and Pittsburgh writes in Donnie, I read the article

2245
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 3: about Calvin Anderson's recovery, and he seems to be really

2246
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 3: gambling on himself. You said he looks healthier already. Can

2247
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 3: we glean anything else from the eleven on eleven drill

2248
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 3: so far? Is he quick off the snap? Is he

2249
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 3: holding his ground aut right tackle?

2250
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 8: Gosh? All those questions or what I'm hoping to be

2251
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:48,839
Speaker 8: asking him after practice?

2252
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 5: And are you got the snap? I don't like. I

2253
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 5: didn't know that he was sick last year. I don't,

2254
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 5: and even like visibly, I don't like he had Yeah,

2255
01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 5: I didn't know what he was dealing with last year.

2256
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 5: I don't. I assume that he's healthier, but you can't

2257
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 5: see that he's healthier. It looks healthy.

2258
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 10: And he actually tweeted, and he actually tweeted from his

2259
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,799
Speaker 10: account two days ago. He's actually been two years removed

2260
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 10: from training camp. So last year and the year before.

2261
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 7: Wow on Monday. Yeah, I'll have some line talk once

2262
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 7: the pads come on.

2263
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 8: But on a serious note, I think I do have

2264
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 8: him today after practice, So.

2265
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 7: That's that's the route that they're looking for, but they

2266
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 7: they need to sell it harder, and I think part

2267
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 7: of the problem is is that, like the defense is

2268
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 7: not really expecting you to run the ball right now,

2269
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 7: so it's kind of harder to sell. But jud is

2270
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 7: going to be unblocked on that clue let scheme. The

2271
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 7: idea is that you fake it so hard that he

2272
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 7: runs himself out of the past rush. At that time

2273
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 7: he was able to pressure.

2274
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 5: That's just one of my things. Like you said, the

2275
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 5: defense is not expecting to run the ball, and I

2276
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 5: totally agree. I mean, you have immediate pressure, which is fine,

2277
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 5: but then he's also you know, Peppers and Jones are

2278
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 5: completely sitting on that route waiting for Polk to come across,

2279
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 5: and they have them double teamed. It's like they know.

2280
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 5: So you'll wonder like is it the offense not being

2281
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 5: able to execute or is the defense kind of just

2282
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 5: being that much better or is it something where they're

2283
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 5: just kind of knowing what's coming.

2284
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, So that play right there is one of my

2285
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 7: favorite in this offense. It's a zone rollback pitch, so

2286
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 7: you're going to pitch it to the running back and

2287
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 7: he's gonna almost like a counterplay where like his first

2288
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 7: few steps are to the left and then he's actually

2289
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 7: gonna roll it back up through the middle of the field.

2290
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 7: And the teams that are good at it all the time,

2291
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 7: remember Pittsburgh, like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen killed the Patriots

2292
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 7: with that over and over again. So it's a it's

2293
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,879
Speaker 7: a fun play if it's executed properly.

2294
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,480
Speaker 5: I guess, say just a little thing on Deuce's defensive radars.

2295
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 5: I don't know. And I'm again, this is a file

2296
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,759
Speaker 5: under a day and a half.

2297
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 7: Of practice that was supposed to be a screen.

2298
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I wonder if White is gonna push

2299
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 4: Dietrich Wise a little bit out of some reps this year.

2300
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 7: See, like I look at them as different positions, and

2301
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 7: I feel like that's the whole thing with with Kean

2302
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 7: White that I still can't wrap my head around. Is

2303
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 7: is he a hand in the dirt player or is

2304
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 7: he a standout player like Dietrich Wise is a three

2305
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 7: four defensive end. He's a hand in the dirt player,

2306
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 7: and uh, Keon White to me is an outside linebacker.

2307
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 7: But at two hundred and eighty five pounds you're gonna

2308
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 7: play outside linebacker like that's asking a lot from an

2309
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 7: athletics standpoint.

2310
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 4: So what he's been doing though, I'm just saying, we're

2311
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 4: seeing a lot more two down then again, I don't know,

2312
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 4: this is two days of practice, but.

2313
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 5: You're also you're also missing Godshaw and bar Bore.

2314
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that the two down linemen like these

2315
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 7: are it's because this is passing at this point, right,

2316
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 7: so they're playing these passing fronts. Now, it's we really

2317
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 7: have to wait till Monday to see what they're gonna

2318
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 7: look like base wise. I'm just I'm just throwing it

2319
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 7: out there, I know, just telling un Yeah, I don't know.

2320
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 4: Good at a feeling trick Wise over on the left

2321
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 4: field when they started working, and I don't know, it's

2322
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 4: a little bad, which is weird because you feel like

2323
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 4: he should be one of their.

2324
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 6: When you jus when you say he was on the

2325
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:16,799
Speaker 6: left field, what does that means.

2326
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 4: A little bit more of the backup centric guys on

2327
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 4: the left field, and that's you know Techrick Wise is

2328
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 4: a vested veteran here. I don't know, just someone caught

2329
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,560
Speaker 4: my eye, but i'd say too with like you know,

2330
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 4: just with all these reps that were watching, when it's

2331
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 4: the starters, there's always one or two random dudes in there.

2332
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 5: Taekwon. Yeah, and that you know, you know the whole

2333
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 5: like that looked like a regular play. That looks like

2334
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 5: a regular play. Yeah, he was on the back foot,

2335
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 5: balls out coming out of his break. Timing was there,

2336
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 5: he was, you know, created a little separation.

2337
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 7: Yeah. I definitely see that today from Jacoby. The ball

2338
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 7: coming out on time a little bit more and he

2339
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 7: did a nice job there is stepping up around some

2340
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 7: pressure too. It looked like you kind of helped his

2341
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 7: offensive lineman by stepping up through the pocket a little bit,

2342
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 7: so that that was a good drift there all around.

2343
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 10: You know.

2344
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 5: During this team period too, I noticed that they had

2345
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 5: two tights on a couple of plays and it was

2346
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 5: Mitchell Willcox and is it Petway Yeah, Michael that way.

2347
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 5: So yeah, some different personnel groups again, much much like

2348
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 5: was the case yesterday.

2349
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 7: That's still a sneaky question to me. As well as

2350
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 7: that inline blocker. I believe they signed Cooper thinking that

2351
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 7: he's going to be that guy. But you know, in

2352
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 7: an offense that wants to run the ball like this,

2353
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 7: I I just don't know if if Hunter Henry is

2354
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,799
Speaker 7: really the best guy to be, you know, digging out nine.

2355
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 5: Techniques as we like to say, digging out nine tech

2356
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 5: another one of your zone tosses.

2357
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, so don't get hurt.

2358
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:53,600
Speaker 4: Our just got pancake, Got pancakes.

2359
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 5: There you go in a non contact drill.

2360
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 3: Right.

2361
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 5: I always thought they got Hooper drive the boat. Hooper

2362
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 5: drives the boat.

2363
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 7: Chief. I think that was because I picked on your

2364
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 7: Ditrich Wise tape.

2365
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 5: Go back to learn the playbook too.

2366
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it.

2367
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 5: A little was.

2368
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's always kind of in the MiGs. You see

2369
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of your guy or my guy, Joe

2370
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 4: Jiles Harris.

2371
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 7: They just won't quit the Josh blood so huh. They

2372
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 7: just keep on trying to make that a thing.

2373
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 5: Nice, nice, And we just gotta get Dietrich Wise with

2374
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 5: a sack.

2375
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 7: We just got to get this blocked. Guys, what are

2376
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 7: we doing? Guy's running through the line.

2377
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 5: Find it hard to believe that you'd be celebrating after

2378
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 5: a play like that, So explain it a little.

2379
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 6: Well.

2380
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 5: They just said that they had Dietrich Wise have a sack.

2381
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 5: He tapped him in, threw liked.

2382
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 8: It.

2383
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 7: Still feels like they're they're trying to get down there.

2384
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 7: You know, their assignments when they do try to sell

2385
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 7: their own as a play action pass and you guys

2386
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 7: are moving to try to sell them run like a

2387
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 7: run blocking play. But then it's just leaving guys wide

2388
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 7: open through the line. So that that Dietrich whis with

2389
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 7: the unblocked pressure there, I mean, he.

2390
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Just may.

2391
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 5: Quiet please. Yeah, we got cheat on the slot.

2392
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 6: That's it.

2393
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 5: Oh wow, had a little separation on that play. I

2394
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 5: like to see it, a little slow development. But he

2395
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 5: hit that ball well, it comes Jacoby one cut. I

2396
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 5: did him a little five. I didn't know if he

2397
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 5: hadn't given handed that ball off.

2398
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 7: See, those are the things though with him, the the

2399
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 7: little off platform, like he just didn't even need to

2400
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 7: step into that bro and the zip to get that

2401
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 7: to Jail and Polk is there regardless. I mean, the

2402
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 7: ball just explodes.

2403
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 3: And by the way, the height matters to play you

2404
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 3: very you're very close to the line.

2405
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 7: That might have been an r PO. Yeah, that's that's

2406
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,719
Speaker 7: one I'd have to look back at. But I feel

2407
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 7: like that might have been an RPO because he held

2408
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 7: it at the mesh like for.

2409
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 5: Check the feet.

2410
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 3: I wish I could the mesh.

2411
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 4: Surprised you don't have a little lipstick, Kim. You know,

2412
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 4: I thought about it, secret secret Lazar breakdowns.

2413
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 5: On the dark Web.

2414
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,719
Speaker 7: Right now, then I'll break the rules.

2415
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 5: Handoff Bentley probably would have buried him.

2416
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, those plays like you know, it's the one yesterday

2417
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 7: where he throws the juju on the bootleg. It's the

2418
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 7: feat don't need to be set, he doesn't need to

2419
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 7: step into it, and it just looks natural. Yeah.

2420
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 5: So we were talking about Calvin Anderson earlier right tackle

2421
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 5: yesterday with the first group, left tackle today with the second. Yeah,

2422
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 5: so as Mao always says, don't read into it, it's

2423
01:45:58,720 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 5: going to be fluid.

2424
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 4: At Kayden will Let's getting some some right tackle snaps.

2425
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 4: Here with the tubs. It's Mitchell Wilcox kids getting.

2426
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 7: Getting a lot of work, not a lot of hoop.

2427
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 5: But today I wonder maybe Hooper's sick.

2428
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 7: Everybody's sick.

2429
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 5: He's sick of driving the boat. Quinn. I like the

2430
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 5: sub was a subtle one. I like it.

2431
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 7: Miscommunication there on the route Taekwon put his hand up.

2432
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 3: Is that Taekwon plus someone at his feet or Bolden

2433
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 3: Bolden good coverage.

2434
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's kind of like and that's another thing where

2435
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 4: you just feel like Thornton kind of disappears into Bolden,

2436
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 4: just kind of gobbled him up.

2437
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 5: No no real way for him to get away.

2438
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 7: It looks like Taekwon put his hand up there to

2439
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 7: drink May. Like, my bad, I should have kept her

2440
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 7: on it.

2441
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 5: I agree. I thought that's my best indicating.

2442
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 7: Because it could never be Drake May's fault.

2443
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 5: So help out on this show, bro that you go

2444
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 5: to some much someone else's show for that crap. Oh

2445
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 5: do you see how we checked that? How we checked

2446
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 5: that one down?

2447
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 3: Checked it down like a chap, a little side arm,

2448
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:17,799
Speaker 3: quick decision.

2449
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, So Evan, you were talking about inline blocker.

2450
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 5: You know, is there a guy that necessarily profiles for

2451
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 5: a third tight end in that role given the lack

2452
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 5: of depth in the running back, do you think that

2453
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 5: that might open the door for a guy like Bell? Well,

2454
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 5: I would make it as a versatile piece that might

2455
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 5: be able to play full back or whatever.

2456
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, I would hope that Bell makes the team

2457
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 7: as the third tight end regardless. But he's more of

2458
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 7: like an off the line player though.

2459
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 5: You know, no block Yeah, but I mean, because you

2460
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of depth in the backfield, he

2461
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 5: might provide some.

2462
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2463
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 7: He also he might be able to carry the football.

2464
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 7: You know, he could literally carry the football and in

2465
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,600
Speaker 7: a pinch as well. You know he did that in

2466
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 7: college at South Carolina, played running back, started his career

2467
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 7: as a running back and then moved the tight end.

2468
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 7: So he's got a lot of versatility, the types of

2469
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 7: ones that you'd like to see obviously complete.

2470
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 5: But Crosser, he looked like he kind of stopped.

2471
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 7: The Yeah, so he can't blame Drake.

2472
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 4: It almost looked a little bit like that, uh that

2473
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 4: incomplete Drake had in cam where it was it was

2474
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 4: zone guy sat down, he kept throwing it like he's

2475
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 4: going to keep running.

2476
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 3: So do you think when the scribes put out these

2477
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 3: stats today there'll be an asterisk next to that incompletion.

2478
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, now we'll give we'll give that context.

2479
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 7: We'll give them that when they put out the stats.

2480
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 7: But those are the types of plays that you want

2481
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 7: to see from Jahim Beldo because then he can catch

2482
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 7: and run it on the move.

2483
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 5: But it was funny because I was just talking about it.

2484
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 5: He lined up in the backfield then he he shifts

2485
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 5: out to you know, the the tight end spot, you know,

2486
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 5: kind of an h back and then he runs a

2487
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 5: quick crosser which is supposed to be his forte. Unfortunately

2488
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 5: they connect, but yeah, Milton getting some.

2489
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 3: Reps here third again ahead of Zappi.

2490
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got his hands on his hip.

2491
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 3: She's not happy, his shirts off, and he's doing calistus

2492
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 3: in the end zone.

2493
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 5: He's making a signal with his hands. What's he doing,

2494
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 5: He's doing dance hands.

2495
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 6: Oh, just who dropped that?

2496
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,560
Speaker 4: Probably just broke a fa I mean Milton had to

2497
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 4: try to squeeze it in there.

2498
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 5: It was like between three defenders, and I mean honestly,

2499
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 5: like the ball was there and I couldn't tell was

2500
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 5: it in front or behind right front? It looked okay,

2501
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 5: it looked like so it should have showed that. So

2502
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 5: it's a good throat.

2503
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 6: The ball was perfect.

2504
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was a catchupall I wrote drop.

2505
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 7: I thought I'd give Booty a drop on that one.

2506
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 7: But those are still the ones that you know, he's

2507
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 7: throwing that ninety five mile an hour high heat. It's like,

2508
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 7: you know, good luck catching that for five yards away.

2509
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 3: But that wasn't five yards away.

2510
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 7: That was seven.

2511
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 5: Nice Mike. These are my people now I have them

2512
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 5: all going back at Fred. It's great. See that's fun.

2513
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 5: It's just Kelly's got the arm that just get it.

2514
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's just a flick.

2515
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy in his face just kind of tossed it over. Whatever.

2516
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 7: It is amazing that the arm talent from what we've

2517
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 7: watched the last couple of years to these two guys

2518
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 7: like I have no idea if either one of them

2519
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 7: are going to pan out, but it's apparent that their

2520
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 7: arms are just on a different planet right than what

2521
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 7: we've been watching.

2522
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 8: I know.

2523
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 5: Well, you got the North Carolina hat, Paul, Right, that's

2524
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 5: not today.

2525
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we were talking about you yesterday when you

2526
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 8: left the show Facts.

2527
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:28,560
Speaker 7: Why what did I do?

2528
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 8: You had the North Carolina hat?

2529
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 3: Mary?

2530
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 5: I thought you were supporting just the hat, just a hat.

2531
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 3: Guy.

2532
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 5: He went down there, he scouted, he did it. He

2533
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:36,959
Speaker 5: bought a shirt.

2534
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 7: That was me d I was at the right. Let's

2535
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 7: not forget that.

2536
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 8: We definitely brought a hat and added to his shrine.

2537
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 7: Absolutely not. I'm a duchie.

2538
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 5: It's got to be a tough school to get into

2539
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,839
Speaker 5: out of state. You know, Carolina virtually impos very difficult.

2540
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 5: But you know, well you got to apply to some schools.

2541
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 5: You're not going to get into it. Well, when you're

2542
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 5: the backup center for Femwick, right, you got what do

2543
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 5: you mean back.

2544
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 7: James Bell?

2545
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 5: Oh fumbles? Yeah, see, I didn't see Jaem Bell at

2546
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 5: all yesterday.

2547
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 7: He's been involved today. That was a little slant that

2548
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 7: he caught from Jiff Jill Milton.

2549
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 3: Milton goes all the way downfield to give him a

2550
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 3: chest bump.

2551
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 7: But that's what he's gonna do. I mean, he ran

2552
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 7: that route from the outside and you know, to Paul's point,

2553
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 7: he motioned out of the backfield, kind of ran a

2554
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 7: shallow over the middle from like an off the line

2555
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 7: position as a tight end. Like he's gonna be able

2556
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,679
Speaker 7: to move around the formation and do some different things.

2557
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 7: And he's he's dynamic with the ball in his hands.

2558
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,799
Speaker 7: So if they can find ways to get him matchups

2559
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 7: and get him into foot races against linebackers, and he's

2560
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 7: somebody that can break off chunk yards. It's not gonna

2561
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 7: go eighty yards, but you know he can go twenty

2562
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 7: twenty five at a time.

2563
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 8: RKK sighting, Yeah, there he is.

2564
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 6: He's got his bonds will be black on today?

2565
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 5: Milton, was that Leverett? Who's who's snapping these? I didn't

2566
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 5: sixty five.

2567
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,600
Speaker 7: Maybe I think is Yeah, that's who I'm seeing is

2568
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 7: upsetting with himself right now.

2569
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 3: Sixty eight sixty maffee, yeah, Hoffey, So row'd you get

2570
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 3: that text?

2571
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 8: Should do that now?

2572
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2573
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, get ready. I was gonna go downstairs. I

2574
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 3: guess we're gonna do the player interview down on the field,

2575
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 3: so good luck.

2576
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 7: Looks like we might get at least one more rotation

2577
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 7: for Jacoby Brissett here. I don't know they're gonna fit

2578
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 7: one in for Drake too, but.

2579
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 4: Like a little friendly composition for some push ups or

2580
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 4: something here. Yeah, I like that, you know, finished strong? Yeah,

2581
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 4: I gotta get down there for those interviews today. I

2582
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 4: missed all of them, yesterdam felt. I felt like I

2583
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 4: missed out.

2584
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 7: A lot more. Taekwon thoring today, Polly a lot more.

2585
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad I mentioned it earlier. The e

2586
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 5: mention made some catches too.

2587
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 3: We're in that slow down let them catch it.

2588
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 5: Must be some installation, yeah, and whatnot? Tosser. See, this

2589
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 5: is the stuff where I just if people are keeping

2590
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 5: stats for this. I don't I don't get it.

2591
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 7: They're not. Luckily, we've we've evolved. I've won that battle.

2592
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 3: We've understood that Andre gained four point five yards to

2593
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 3: carry today.

2594
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 5: Right, suspect effort from the defense on that one. They

2595
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 5: just they're not bought in. Let them catch it. Glad

2596
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,839
Speaker 5: they got Jalen Hawkins in New Jersey too. They retired

2597
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 5: the mccordy left over. It's amazing to me that you

2598
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 5: notice these. So was that that was a that was

2599
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 5: another B and Evan's Bonnett too?

2600
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 10: Right?

2601
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 5: You were that you were disturbed by that? Which one

2602
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 5: the mccordy jersey on Jalen hip Yeah, I love it.

2603
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 5: I don't love it what that he's wearing thirty two? No,

2604
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 5: it was just like it's all dirty and stuff.

2605
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't care for it.

2606
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:21,799
Speaker 5: One.

2607
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2608
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 5: That's all. Well, this was This didn't really have a

2609
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 5: big highlight today.

2610
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 10: No.

2611
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 7: I think your boy Jabriel probably had the biggest highlight.

2612
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 6: I think the longest patch was like maybe fifteen yards

2613
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 6: or so.

2614
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 4: I mean we kind of lived off that uh rager

2615
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 4: catch up the sideline yesterday. But I guess we're stacking

2616
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 4: stacking day by day.

2617
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 6: But amazing the.

2618
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 5: Play that Pepper's made on Henry, you're talking about it.

2619
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I had to say a highlight of the day.

2620
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 7: I think that was probably the most Marcus Jones made

2621
01:54:58,760 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 7: a nice play.

2622
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 5: Too on I had that written down to.

2623
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, basically the same exact play, the same exact route.

2624
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 4: Jake masonally, get some walk through time, check with me,

2625
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 4: check with Merito.

2626
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 3: Alert.

2627
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 5: They drops back and they let them caught it. Catch it,

2628
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 5: it's Mitchell Wilcox. You think they could do something about

2629
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 5: it if they wanted to.

2630
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 6: You can only hold one play from a and now

2631
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 6: they're off to the hill.

2632
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 4: I keep thinking it's Mount Lacos or Matt Sokel or

2633
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 4: those guys are all kind of blending to all.

2634
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 5: Of those other guys. You fell in love with it

2635
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 5: various times in the last five years. Fall in love

2636
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 5: with Mat Lacos.

2637
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 4: But uh, but man, I just I can't keep track

2638
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 4: of our third tight end. It's always kind of seems

2639
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 4: like the same guy to me.

2640
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like things are wrapping up. Players are

2641
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 5: heading to the hill for some more conditioning runs to

2642
01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 5: close things out, as was the case yesterday and Dead.

2643
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 7: I'd say a little bit more involvement for Taekwon and

2644
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 7: jaem Bell today offensively. And the one thing that's been

2645
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 7: pretty steady the last two days is Marcus Jones is

2646
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 7: the top nickel in the starting defense. So you know,

2647
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 7: I swear I kind of thought, you know, we were

2648
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 7: headed with that. We'll see if that changes all that

2649
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 7: stuff down get into the summer. But you know, I

2650
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 7: feel like Marcus Jones right now has the inside track

2651
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 7: to be the starting nickel and we'll see how it goes.

2652
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 7: I am wondering now if we get to, you know,

2653
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 7: some packages where it's like Marty Mapu or a Dugger

2654
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 7: Peppers or someone that's a little bit bigger, a little

2655
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 7: bit gurthier there to handle early downs. But in terms

2656
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 7: of you know, when teams get into obvious past situations

2657
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 7: and they want to play three true corners out there,

2658
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 7: it definitely seems like Marcus Jones is going to be

2659
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 7: the third corner for now.

2660
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: I think Isaia Boldin's look at you know, I know

2661
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 4: in the springs, I saw him in the but but

2662
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 4: you know, he's kind of popped them up here and

2663
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 4: there a little bit. But I think they said in

2664
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 4: the spring they still view him more as an outside corner,

2665
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 4: but not a lot of movement there so far. Hard

2666
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 4: hard to kind of read into how third corner that.

2667
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 5: Kind of stopps all playing out, Oh, Marty Mappo.

2668
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 7: As a so some guys just kind of running on

2669
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 7: their own, had uh what quality armand watts inside you know,

2670
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 7: no Barmore, No gotcha. So I saw a lot of

2671
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 7: that here today.

2672
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, are you wonder guys like Daniel quality kind

2673
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 5: of a I don't know, it just might be a

2674
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 5: guy they have to kind of rely on this year.

2675
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 7: You know, he's had some some stretches.

2676
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 5: He's been reasonably productive as a rush in, sub rusher,

2677
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 5: disruptive filling in for Barmore a couple of years ago.

2678
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 5: Is that where he comes? Yeah, they know we got hurt.

2679
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 7: Last ye, Like you're not gonna he's not gonna hit

2680
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 7: the that you're additional box score, but you start grading

2681
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 7: like hurries and just occupying blocks and you know, just

2682
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 7: doing his job in the past rush on the inside.

2683
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 7: I think he's someone that's prosperable for sure.

2684
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 4: It's like if they truly felt great about him or

2685
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 4: farms or you know, then it would just probably make gotcha,

2686
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 4: no brainer, and just feel like, all right, dude, you.

2687
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 5: Know, look, this is where we're at.

2688
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 4: But I don't know, man, I just I just hope

2689
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 4: that all this stuff is kind of resolved one way

2690
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 4: or another and doesn't drag into the season. I don't

2691
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 4: want to be talking to Matthew Judeene all year with

2692
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 4: that contract cloud hanging over everything.

2693
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 3: Well, and for what it's worth, I think jude On

2694
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 3: showed a lot of energy today. You know, he was

2695
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 3: running around places, you know, showing up in the backfield

2696
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 3: when they were doing eight eleven on eleven's he looked active.

2697
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't he's not out there body language

2698
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 3: wise showing that he's upset. Yeah, you know, so that's good.

2699
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 3: Good for him, Good for him.

2700
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 4: The Scott Zila Jersey down there too on the field,

2701
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 4: so frough friends spotted that one.

2702
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 11: Are well even there's already it is interesting that there

2703
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 11: are still are certain things that they're still you know,

2704
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 11: running the hill and yeah, they're gonna still keep a

2705
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 11: lot of.

2706
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 3: The Yeah, it wasn't all bad. You know, they won

2707
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 3: a few games over the last twenty so years, so

2708
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 3: I heard, Yeah.

2709
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 5: It's a it's a part of football that I always hated.

2710
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 5: It's the sprints at the end. It's like we had

2711
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 5: up in Vermont.

2712
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 4: We had a really steep hill, like almost ridiculously and

2713
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 4: we would do that one sometimes.

2714
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had We had a ridiculously steep hill too,

2715
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 7: and that both sports I played, Run run that hill.

2716
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 7: Very fun.

2717
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 5: All right, well you guys, okay, if I head down

2718
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 5: there for I'm gonna head down with it.

2719
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you're gonna leave me here alone.

2720
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 5: Oh all right, I'll stay. Well, yeah, we're gonna wait,

2721
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 5: and something needs to be done about that.

2722
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna wait.

2723
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 3: Tomorrow is gonna get a player down on the field,

2724
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 3: so hopefully it'll be a lot quicker than it was yesterday.

2725
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 3: I think I think she might be talking to Calvin Anderson.

2726
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 3: We talked about him during the show. He had that

2727
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 3: illness last year that really no one knew about, and

2728
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 3: then it came out this year. But I think was

2729
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 3: it a Boston Globe article that revealed us.

2730
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Christopher Price, Yeah, so he was.

2731
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 6: He was really sick.

2732
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 5: He had malaria. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely a significant problem.

2733
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's back and out there playing football again,

2734
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 3: So it'd be nice to catch up with him with

2735
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 3: Tamarawe see what's up.

2736
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I just think that the overall, like

2737
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 5: the sort of the tenor of practice. I don't know

2738
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 5: about how you feel, Freddy. I don't really feel it's

2739
02:00:57,960 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 5: all that different. I mean, I think there's the time

2740
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 5: i'm you know, and things like that that are obviously

2741
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 5: different than usually nine thirty. It's been eleven. But yeah,

2742
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 5: maybe they broke up special teams a little bit more.

2743
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 5: It didn't do much yesterday, did a little more today

2744
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 5: than last year than they would have done. But I overall,

2745
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 5: I don't see a tremendous amount of change. It's football.

2746
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 3: It's football, exactly, Paul. It's football. And I'll bet you

2747
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 3: if you go around the league, they all look the same.

2748
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 3: They all pretty much all looked the same. I remember

2749
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 3: when we instituted, you know, the bus fourth thing, and

2750
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:35,760
Speaker 3: then I found out every team has a buzz four.

2751
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 3: They all do the same thing. All these operational guys

2752
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 3: for all the teams. They talk, oh yeah, we're doing

2753
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 3: it this way this year, and they collaborate on those things.

2754
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 3: They collaborate and practices. The only time I saw you

2755
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 3: make fun of me, But the I do but the

2756
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 3: only practice I saw that was markedly different than what

2757
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 3: the Patriots were doing was that time we were in Atlanta.

2758
02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't make fun of that.

2759
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was it was you know, you had

2760
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 3: Smith walking around the head coach for Atlanta and with

2761
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 3: his pitth helmet on.

2762
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 2: And this is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website.

2763
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,680
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2764
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 3: All right, we're back here in Patriot's Unfiltered. We're waiting

2765
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:21,200
Speaker 3: for the on field post practice interview with tomorrow, and

2766
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 3: we believe it's gonna be Calvin Anderson, who.

2767
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 5: I see now on the uh far side of the

2768
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 5: field about the fifteen yard line. Okay, so hopefully he'll

2769
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 5: make a bee line right over to tom Is he

2770
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 5: making his way here?

2771
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 3: I see.

2772
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,800
Speaker 5: It's my favorite part of camp. And see this little

2773
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 5: girl running on here.

2774
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice.

2775
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 5: It is my favorite part of camp.

2776
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2777
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 5: I wasn't being sarcastic. I think you think I was

2778
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 5: being a you know, my typical one.

2779
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 6: You know this time he cer wit.

2780
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 3: Players don't get a lot a lot of time to

2781
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,240
Speaker 3: spend with their families during training camp, so it's this

2782
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 3: post practice stuff. That is really cool seeing the kids

2783
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 3: running around.

2784
02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll try to track Calvin and it looks

2785
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 5: like he is making his way across the field. Hopefully

2786
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 5: we can have that and be interested to see, you know,

2787
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 5: what he has to say about just how I'm sure

2788
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 5: it's got to be night and day. You know, his

2789
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 5: mindset and mentality right now than it was at this

2790
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 5: time last year going through that nightmare. Yep.

2791
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:24,000
Speaker 3: As usual, the quarterbacks and some of the receivers, even

2792
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 3: though practice is over, they do a lot of post

2793
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 3: practice work together, just throwing the ball, working on footwork.

2794
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 5: And I see one of the members of the media

2795
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 5: relations staff with Calvin Anderson. So okay, good, I think

2796
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 5: that might be Julia.

2797
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.

2798
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 5: He's so hopefully we were close, Freddy. Now, now, how

2799
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 5: does this work? Because I did not take part in

2800
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 5: this yesterday.

2801
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 3: No, it'll just be Tamarrow in a double box. Okay,

2802
02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 3: actually no, it'll be a single box today because yesterday

2803
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 3: she was up here, but no need for the double

2804
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 3: box today, so she'll be with him down there.

2805
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 5: Samara is making her way over. So when that happens,

2806
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 5: I imagine I can get sprung. Yeah, you can go

2807
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 5: all right, So I'll make sure that she's hooked up

2808
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 5: and whatnot before I leave you. Okay, Yeah, any any

2809
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 5: real takeaways today?

2810
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 3: No, just building, building toward pads on Monday is really

2811
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 3: what it is. But I think Thornton, you know Thornton

2812
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 3: who herd of who?

2813
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 5: Today? Okay, yeah, so I get her set up. I

2814
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,400
Speaker 5: see the camera ready down there. I don't know if

2815
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 5: we have any connectivity with Yeah, with Tamara.

2816
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 3: Good for Thornton to have a day today. We didn't

2817
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 3: have the highlight reel catch that we had yesterday with Rager.

2818
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Speaker 3: A lot of run work today with Stevenson for set

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Speaker 3: still your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I did. I do think it's know of

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Speaker 5: mild interest to me that Milton went ahead of Zappy today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can go, Paul.

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Speaker 5: I'll let you go, Paul.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's uh, let's go to Tamara Brown

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Speaker 3: with Calvin Anderson.

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Speaker 10: Calvin, you posted on social media it's been two years

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Speaker 10: since your last training camp.

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Speaker 8: What does it mean to you to be back out here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So grateful.

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Speaker 9: I mean it was a it was a trying year

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Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three, but you know, I'm glad to

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Speaker 9: be past it. Be healthy, be better for it. Looking

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Speaker 9: forward to this year, you're.

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Speaker 10: Back out here competing for a job on the offensive line.

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Speaker 10: How do you perceive your role in this team?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I mean I got to come out obviously and show

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Speaker 9: what I'm capable of doing. You know, I came in

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02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 9: last year with a bunch of goals in mind, had

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Speaker 9: a setback. Now it's about how I'm going to respond

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Speaker 9: to that. So now I'm here to show the coaches,

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Speaker 9: this new staff, everybody here what I'm capable of doing

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02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 9: and earn the trust of my teammates too.

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Speaker 5: In camp.

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Speaker 10: What's your comfortability with playing right tackle.

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Speaker 8: On this offensive line?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean one of the one of the beautiful

2848
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Speaker 9: skills I was taught early in my career from Mike

2849
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 9: Munchhak was to be able to play both sides. So

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Speaker 9: my whole career I had to be able to prepare

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02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 9: on both sides and be ready to play. So whatever

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02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 9: the team needs me to play, as far as right

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Speaker 9: or left, and I'll be ready to do that.

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Speaker 8: What's it like playing underneath AVP and coach Peters?

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02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Good guys, man, good guys. You never know how it's

2857
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 9: going to be when you got an overhaul and we

2858
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 9: lucked out.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 9: We got some really good guys up Frond excited to

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Speaker 9: work with them this year.

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Speaker 10: You're going into year six in the NFL. You're one

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Speaker 10: of the veterans on this team. You have a few days,

2864
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 10: more days of helmets and shells. How does that preparation

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02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 10: help you mentally to put on the pads on Monday.

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Speaker 9: Yes, it's important when pads come on. Obviously everything's love,

2867
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 9: everything's full tempo, but these it's good opportunity right now

2868
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 9: to mentally get as many reps as you can and

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Speaker 9: make sure you're prepared to transition well. And I think

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Speaker 9: I think we're doing a good job of that upfront.

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Speaker 9: So you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens with

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Speaker 9: the pads come on.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much, Calvin, and we're glad you're back out there.

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Speaker 5: The pleasure.

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02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:49,960
Speaker 3: Thank you.

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02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 8: Back to you guys upstairs.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, that's going to wrap up day two

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Speaker 3: coverage of practice. Thank you Tamara, thank you Calvin Anderson.

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Speaker 3: We will be back tomorrow at ten forty five with

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Speaker 3: another edition of Live Training Camp from Jellette Stadium. For

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Speaker 3: now signing off Fred Curs for Mike or So Paul Parilla,

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Speaker 3: Tamara Brown, Evan Lazar. We'll see you tomorrow at ten

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Speaker 3: forty five.

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