WEBVTT - Mad Max Fury Road 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.760 On the Beck Doll Cast, the questions asked if movies 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.440 have women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.680 and husbands, or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:17.680 invest start changing it with the bec Del Cast. Jamie caivin, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.159 Oh what a day, What a lovely day? Witness me. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:28.000 It's my birthday. I'm oh, my god, I get it. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.520 I get it. I understand. What a lovely day for 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.720 it to be my birthday. It's always a lovely day 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.280 for it to be your birthday. Happy birthday, Thank you, 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.839 I love you. What a day this is going to be. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.159 I mean, this is We're not recording this on your birthday, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.640 but I feel like it's good. We your birthday is 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.040 tends to be kind of an event. Yeah. I really 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.280 think that I'm a special person and really think that 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.800 my birthday is a special day for everyone and not 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.520 just me. Well, you're not a huge holiday person, so 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.560 this is your holiday. Like it all makes sense. Um, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.040 I think I maybe I gave you or I didn't 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.479 give it to you because I haven't, but a part 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:13.160 of your birthday present the spirit channeled survivor of Titanic book, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.920 I have to give to you amongst other things that 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:22.959 will be revealed at a later time. Happy birthday, thank you, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.120 and we're doing a special I'm I'm excited. I'm excited 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.520 for this episode. I've been kind of nervous for it 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.039 because anytime we go into an episode where there's like 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.920 a lot of your like, there's just so much. But 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.360 but I'm glad. I'm glad that we're doing this. Here, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:46.040 we are same, back in heaven where we live. And 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.000 what a lovely day it is. Uh. This is the 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.680 Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Darante. My name is 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.720 Jamie Loftus, and this is our podcast where we examine 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.640 movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechtel Tests 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.240 simply as a jumping off point for our discussion. Jamie, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:08.480 I need you to tell me on this lovely day, huh, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.800 what the Bechdel test is. It's your birthday. I'm happy 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.000 to oblige. So. The Bechdel Test, sometimes called the Buckdel 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.840 Wallace test, is a media metric created by queer cartoonist 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.920 Alison Bechdel. There's many per mutations of this test, however, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:31.520 the one we use requires the following that therapy two 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.960 characters of a marginalized gender. Sometimes sometimes my one of 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.840 my signapps is collapses mid sentence. Uh, this is like 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.680 our audition monologue that we do every week, right, because 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.119 it's like it feels so like, it feels very rehearsed 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.440 sometimes when I'm saying it, because I just like have 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.919 it so committed to memory that I'm like, wait, did 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.560 I like accidentally forget one of the That's It's just 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.639 it's a whole thing. Every time I trip myself up 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.560 because I I worry because it's so grained in my 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.800 brain that I'm going to switch a word and neither 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.920 of us will notice because we're just like, yep, that's 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.440 the monologue. This is our tomorrow and Tomorrow and tomorrow 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.920 creeps in this petty pace. Wait, what is that a 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.160 reference to? I don't think that this doesn't pass the 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.680 back because this is it's a Shakespeare passage. Everyone in 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.639 my high school had to memorize this one Shakespeare passage 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.520 Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow creeps in this petty pace 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.200 to the last syllable of recorded time. I already sucked 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.000 it up, and all the shakespeare heads are going to 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:34.079 be like, you fucking do fist as as I was saying, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:40.760 on your birthday, no less of all days, of all days. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.880 So this also isn't coming out on my birthday, I 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.920 don't think, because my birthday is a Tuesday and we 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.920 always release episodes on But who knows, maybe we'll mix 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.480 it up this week. I don't know. Look, you'll find 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.040 out when you're listening. You'll know. And then if you're 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.640 listening to it, not the day it comes out, which 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.200 is probably a lot of people, you'll be like, shut up, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.200 tell us what the Bechdel cantest is. Well, it's this, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.640 here's the one we use. Now I'm really going to 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:12.280 suck it up. We were calling. We require that we 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:19.800 our version, you've got to have two characters of a 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.000 marginalized gender with names speak to each other about something 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.200 other than a man for more than two lines of dialogue. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.160 And these lines of dialogue should be narratively significant in 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.359 some way, shape or form, not throw away dialogue for 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.400 crying out loud and uh, you know, because of the 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.720 movie we're covering, it's smooth sailing baby, not a problem. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.360 It's not a problem from the director that brought you 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.960 Babe Pig in the City and Happy Feet one and two. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.680 Oh my gosh, I found someone took it upon themselves 0:04:55.760 --> 0:05:00.480 to write a passage on scholarly journal Wikipedia of about 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.279 the thematic similarities between happy Feet and mad Max Fury 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.719 Road and it actually completely scans. Yeah. Well, I talked 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:12.279 about happy Feet on blank check and I pointed out 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:17.200 speaking of being scholarly in a very scholarly way, I 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.800 pointed out some of those same similarities. So an environmental 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:27.599 family story. Also, like Hugo Weaving plays this penguin that 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:33.159 has this like extremist religious dogma that he's like trying 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.960 to foist on to the other penguins in the penguin community, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:42.280 much like a Morton Joe is like foisting this extremist 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.000 religious dogma. Look, there's a lot of there's a lot 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.760 of similarities between Mad Max Fury Road and happy Feet, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:52.440 is all we're saying. I love our canonical pronunciation of 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:59.400 happy feet, happy feet, happy feet. Uh, there's it reminds 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.720 me of There's is one acting choice that Tom from 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.440 Succession makes, and I believe that that's his Christian name 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.400 um where every time he says he's talking about how 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.400 Chiv cheated on him on on their wedding night, he says, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.520 on our wedding night. And I'm like, why is he 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.360 saying it like that? But he says it like it has. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.400 He keeps saying wedding night, and it drives me. It 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:27.400 drives me horny. I love it. Wedding night, happy feet, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.279 wedding to night, happy feet. I'm like, is that Shakespeare? No, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:36.080 that's maybe I am bic pentameter. No, it's not. You know, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.839 it's something though, it's something though, it's you know, I trust, 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.200 I trust, I believe that it's got to be something. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:48.440 And today we're talking about mad Max fury Road. Yeah, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.920 we are Magic Mike and Mad Max in the same 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:56.120 couple of I mean, we're really describing these these monosyllabic men, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.320 aren't we. Yeah, so I guess the Magical Michael version 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:05.760 of Mad Max would be like mat madgening Maxwell. That 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.640 doesn't quite work, but yeah, I guess. I guess. So. Also, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.160 Steven Soderberg loves this movie. I found so many quotes 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.760 from him being like WHOA. I was like, Wow, Magic Mike, 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.720 Mad Max, It's all coming together. Do you think that 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.080 he loved the original Mad Max so much that he 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:30.640 subconsciously channeled it into magic. Mike, maybe I think we 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.840 should go with this theory. Okay, no one correct us. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.400 It's Caitlin's birthday. We can't be wrong today, exactly. I 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.880 can be wrong. You can yell at me except that. Yeah, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:46.040 but I am infallible today. You're untouchable. You should say 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:52.040 anything really fucked up? Alright, Caitlin. Okay. So, and and 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.600 last last thing. If if you're if you've been with 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.640 us since the beginning, almost six years at this point, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.480 and you're like, hey, didn't these ladies cover Mad Max 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.600 at some point? Yes, we did. It was extremely early 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.040 in the podcast, one of our first episodes. Yeah, and 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.360 there was a couple early episodes that of about a 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.680 year and a half ago, We're like, we want to 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.239 redo these. We've learned so much through doing this show 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.760 and just through the general evolution of society and time, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.400 and this was one of the movies we've always been 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.120 wanting to redo. So it's not in your imagination, but 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.440 this is the all new and improved Matt Max Fury 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:38.360 Road episode Exactly. We are now better equipped to tackle 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.200 the discussion that we want to have around this movie, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.520 especially because it has since recording that original episode. It 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.000 has become one of my favorite movies of all time. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.320 Hence also why we're doing it for my birthday, and 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.080 since it came out, because we covered it like about 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.000 a year after it came out, I think roughly something 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.839 like that, maybe yeah, because it came out in yeah, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:08.160 this summer of and then we recorded the episode early. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.800 It was not that long after. And now it's you know, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.680 considered for many the greatest action movie ever made. So 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.920 we can talk about how the perception of the movie 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.760 has some evolved as well. Certainly there's there's just there's 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.000 you know, the passage of time and can I just 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:33.720 say from s to now no notes societally, so, um, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.319 I don't think anything has really happened now we're living 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:45.320 in the greatest timeline. Um so. So Caitlin the birthday gal, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.240 please do tell me what is your history with Mad 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.000 Max Fury Road. I did see it in theaters when 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.520 it came out, I think probably opening weekend. I was 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.120 pretty jazzed to see it based on the trailers in 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.200 the marketing and it thing, and I was blown away 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:09.680 and have only developed a greater appreciation for it more 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.760 and more as time goes on. I would say, I've 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:18.480 seen this movie somewhere between like sixty and seventy times. Yeah, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.400 I didn't know it was that serious. It is. It's 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.160 pretty serious because it's one of those movies that I 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.800 am never not in the mood to watch. So like 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.080 I am just I will throw it on. It's my 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:37.440 plane movie. So anytime I on a flight, I will 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:42.040 watch this movie both times. So on my journey to 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.120 the place and then on my journey back home. I 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.600 watch it on dates all the time. Uh an emphasis 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.680 on all the time, because I'm always going on dates. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.560 Having a Greg, you do go on many successful dates, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:02.160 and I would not call them successful, but sorry, go ahead, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.080 it's your birthday. I'm I'm I'm fluffing. I'm fluffing it's 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:11.440 your birthday. Yes, No, I'm so good at dating. I'm 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.719 so good at finding people I'm compatible with. It's an 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.200 incredible phenomenon. It's you can't stop falling in love. That 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.680 it is good to have go to date movies. I 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:29.720 my no, the jinks I was gonna says, I've got 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.720 to change it. I've got to grow as a person. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.080 But that's one way where I very firmly I have 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.840 not that's okay, that's okay. You know, sometimes it's fine 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.880 to be absolutely static. Here's in some ways it is comforting. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.640 But in that one, I would say, maybe it could 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:50.320 it could go. Um, Caitlin, were you Did you ever 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.080 watch the original Mad Max movies? Yes, so I have 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.240 seen all of those, but I have no real attachment 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.200 to them, especially compared to the Hatchman I feel to 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.640 this movie. That was what I was curious about, because 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:09.120 it seems like there's a few camps of fans of 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.640 this franchise, some of whom are like this movie, and 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:17.000 then some of whom are like all Max Cannon. Yeah, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:22.800 um no, I am not thrilled with any of the others, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:28.560 mainly that Mel Gibson cannot stomach watching anything he's in 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.640 except for Chicken Run, which you only hear his voice. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.280 So I give it a path and it still feels bad. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.640 And it still feels bad. Um yeah, I do. I mean, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.760 there will will be talking about in plenty today, but 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.760 I do think that George Miller is a very interesting 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.400 case of a filmmaker who has demonstrated a lot of 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:52.920 growth throughout his career. Although there's a lot that I 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.040 learned about the protection of this movie. That sounded, uh, 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.840 not great. We'll get there, yeah, for sure. Um, but 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.400 it's really only this installment Fury Road that I have 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.800 any attachment to, so much that I got a tattoo 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:11.440 of the war rig that Furioso drives on my arm, 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:16.880 and that I think concludes my relationship with this movie. Jamie, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:21.200 what is your history and relationship with Mad Max Fury Road? Um? 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.600 I had only seen it to prepare for the first time. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.880 We did this episode about five years ago. That was 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.000 the first time I saw it. Didn't like it the 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.600 first time. This was in a phase of life where 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.800 I was deeply against any aesthetic I perceived to be 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:42.079 remotely steampunk. Look, I was in my early twenties. I 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.480 was just I. I had a hot take. I clung 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.040 to it. I don't stand by it, I will say, 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:53.000 speaking of growth, Speaking of growth, I really I've seen 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.319 this movie a couple of times in the interim, Um, 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.360 I think at least once with you, but I like 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.280 it more or each time I see it, I feel 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.680 like it. It has. It has a lot to do 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.880 with just like me understanding more about movies than I 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:12.040 did six years ago, understanding more about feminism, than I 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:17.120 did six years ago, understanding more about environmentalism than I 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:22.240 did sing here, and also like having a growing appreciation 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.440 for action movies. It's still not my genre. I don't 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.000 think it will ever be my genre. However, I feel 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.680 like I can now appreciate a well crafted, paste looking 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:41.120 ass action movie. So I've really grown to Uh. I 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.720 really love this movie. And I and I had a 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.560 really daunting, slash fun time preparing for this episode. There's 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.440 so much to go through, there's so much to talk about. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.400 It's very dense, but it doesn't feel dense. It's such 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.840 I mean, it's I guess it's like it's so dystopian. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.920 It's a dystopian romp. It is a romp, but it 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.880 is it's a serious upsetting. I think you you nailed it. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:12.440 It's it's not totally light yet. It is still a romp, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.640 but it is literally never not moving. That's the beauty 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:20.520 of romps. It's a spectrum and it's very inclusive. In 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.760 this essay, we will no but for real, probably for 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.600 a couple of hours. So that's my history. Uh. Used 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.800 to be a hater, and then I got educated and 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.480 I grew up literally as how I would describe what 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:38.000 happened that warms my heart? Is it my favorite George 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.040 Miller movie? It is not. That is still Babe, but 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.680 this is a close second because Happy Feet is one 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.400 we I think we've maybe talked about this in our 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.600 Babe episode which is on the Matreon, and I think 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.320 it's quite a good episode. You did an incredible segment 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.440 on how movie animals are treated in that episode. But 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.880 in any case, Happy Feet is one of those movies 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.080 that I know I have seen at least three times, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.600 and I could not tell you a single thing that 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.520 happens in the movie. I have the same issue with 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.120 a lot of Wes Anderson movies where I'm like, I 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.760 remember how it looks, I remember how I was feeling, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.640 couldn't tell you what happened. I could try to tell you, 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.200 and this isn't the time or place, because I've seen 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.440 it a couple of times to prepare for the blank 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.800 Check episode I did. And I think I'm in the 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:33.720 minority because I think that movie absolutely sucks shit. No, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.080 I think that people didn't. I don't think that there 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.200 it was like nominated for Academy Awards like I think 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.560 it was like, but people responded to it well like audiences. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.480 Was it well reviewed? It was well reviewed? Bizarre? I mean, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:52.280 I understand why kids, my my. Anyways, you know what, ultimately, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.920 if Happy Feet hadn't performed while the box office in critically, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.520 we wouldn't have Mad Max Fury Road, now, would we? 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.360 Or so I read is true? Yeah? So you know, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.879 no matter where you fall on the Happy Feet criticism enjoyment, 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.600 o'met or um, you gotta hand it, you gotta foot 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.520 it to the Happy Feet because if that boring ass 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.840 movie I can't remember with Elijah Wood Penguin, am I correct? Correct? Correct? 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.640 You know, then we wouldn't have this awesome movie we're 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:26.160 talking about today. True? Should we start talking about it? Yeah? 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.520 Let me do the recap, shall I? Let's do it. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.720 So we hear some sound bites at the very beginning 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.760 about water and fossil fuel shortages. We hear about wars 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.840 that have happened as a result. We hear about like 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.000 nuclear skirmish. We see a barren wasteland, and then we 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:48.280 meet Max Rockatanski played by Tom Hardy. We get some 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.719 voice over from him in which he says that the 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:56.280 only thing he cares about is survival. Max is then 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:00.760 pursued by war boys who capture him and take him 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.000 to this place called the Citadel, which is ruled by 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.040 and Morton Joe played by Hugh keys Burn. He is 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.560 this tyrannical leader who controls access to people's food and 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.240 water in the Citadel. Right. He has a bunch of 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:20.520 people working for him, many of whom are his offspring Others. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.920 On the Wikipedia page someone it might not be true 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.760 by the time you listen to this episode, but someone 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.880 keeps referring to one of the sons as his large 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.280 adult son um. Would that be Rectus erectus. Yes, yes, 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.159 Rectus erectus is repeatedly referred to as a large adult 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.280 son and uh an accurate description of the character. It 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.600 is hard to tell because of how they're at this. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.760 They're stylized. You're like, which which son is which? It's confusing, sure, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.040 but that's the point that. Yeah. Others are people that 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:57.240 he has either enslaved or manipulated via this religious ideology 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.280 where a Morton Joe has convinced them that he is 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.159 their redeemer and they will ride with him eternal on 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.080 the highways of Valhalla. It is all I mean, and 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.600 I do I do appreciate the use of Like any 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:14.200 time there's like Norse mythology popping up, you're like, mmmm, 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.719 this is probably not a character I'm going to end 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:22.520 up rooting for, which is an interesting story convention that 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.280 pops up all the time. Yeah. Then we meet Furiosa, 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.520 played by Charlie's Thearren. She seems to be pretty high 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.240 up in a Morton Joe's ranks. She drives a war 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:38.000 rig which she boards to head to Gastown and the 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.840 Bullet Farm, to neighboring communities that barter and trade with 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.800 the Citadel. We will soon find out that they have 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:52.439 similar tyrannical warmongering leadership. As Furiosa is driving, she veers 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.960 off course. We are not sure why at first, but 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.200 then we realized that in her war rig, furio Set 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.679 has Morton Joe's wives a k a. Women who he 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.840 has enslaved and who he assaults in order to bear 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.920 him healthy offspring, and Furiosa is attempting to rescue these 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.600 women and escape once and for all, and they are 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:20.800 headed to somewhere called the Green Place. When Morton Joe 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.440 discovers this, he sends out a bunch of his war 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.640 boys in their vehicles to chase after and catch Furiosa 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.359 and bring the wives back again. I just love the 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.080 simple turn of phrase that is war boys, because that's 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.240 how I would describe them if I didn't know what 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.560 they were called. And that is just what they're called. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.600 That it's just what they're called. Yes, this movie is 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:48.960 perhaps not subtle, no, but but you know that. But 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.199 that's how we why we go to action movies. We 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.119 don't go to action movies for the subtlety. I go 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:59.840 to Babe for subtlety. And I kind of mean that. Yeah. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:04.159 So one such war boy is Nuts, played by Nicholas Holt, 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.119 who Max has been rigged up to as Nux is 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.200 blood bag because a lot of the war boys are 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:16.720 dying from radiation poisoning and they need regular blood transfusions. Right, 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.640 So you immediately see how characters of all genders are 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:26.600 reduced to the basic functions of their body by and 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:32.720 Morton Joe at all, Right, exactly, So Nucks wanting to 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:38.119 participate in this chase to catch Furiosa, he takes Max 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:42.520 along with him in this pursuit. Uh. Then we get 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.080 the first big chase of the movie, where Furiosa manages 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.600 to lose a Morton Joe and his war party in 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:56.040 a sandstorm, but afterward Max finds her and the other women, 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:01.440 the wives who are splendid and her played by Rosie 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:06.159 Huntington's Whiteley. Okay, transformers. Oh that's the only other thing 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.480 I know. She wasn't got it yep capable played by 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.520 Riley Kyo, who I've seen this movie a bazillion times 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:18.040 and when I was watching Zola to prep for that episode, 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.240 did not realize it was the same actor. I mean, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:26.160 the power of a red Die job cannot be understated. 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.600 I think she's great in this movie, too. Agree, Yeah, 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:30.040 I mean I think all the all the wives are 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.800 are very talented for sure. We've also got Toast the 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:39.080 Knowing played by Zoe Kravitz. We've got name Cheeto, the 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:44.800 fragile played by Courtney Eaton, and we've got name and 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:50.640 we've got the Dag played by Abby Lee. So when 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.159 Max comes upon them, he and Furious to fight, and 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.160 Max attempts to hijack Furious as war rig and leave 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.320 all of the women to be captured by a Morton Joe, 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.880 but Furiosa has kill switches enabled on the rig, so 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.639 Max cannot drive away, and she bargains with him, and 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.320 then they all set off together, with Furiosa driving but 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:20.399 Max holding them all hostage. Then Furiosa drives to this 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.720 canyon where she has bartered for safe passage through, but 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.320 a Morton Joe has caught back up to them, along 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.399 with the people eater of gas Town and the bullet 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.080 farmer from You'll never guess this the Bullet Farm. I 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.439 do appreciate. Yeah, again, just with the simplicity of the names. 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.080 It's helpful. There's a lot of characters, and I just 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.679 like how he names them by what they do or 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:47.679 sort of how you would kind of describe what you 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.840 think they might do. Right, It's helpful. It is so 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.679 wait quick question, Yeah, is it Nicholas Holt that you 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.080 have a huge crush on? I do have an enormous 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.919 crush on Nicholas Holt, is true, Okay, I was just 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:08.439 checking in about that. Thank you for confirming and taking 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:17.600 away love a little aside where we simply cannot pass 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.560 the Bectel test. Look, we're no one's asking life to 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.560 pass the Actel test, although it, you know, could be 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:32.120 it would probably be a generally better experience life, but um, 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.360 you know, it's a quick detour to be horny about 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:40.800 Nicholas Holt, no further questions. I also didn't realize that 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.720 Nux is Nicholas Holt, because I mean, it's a it's 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:47.240 a really good performance, but it could be any person 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:52.480 in there. A lot of his recognizable features are they're 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:57.919 all kind of like buff looking slenderman bob a Duke types. 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.240 The war Yeah, yeah, yeah, the war Boys are Yeah, 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:08.400 just to pack a slenderman Zimbaba Dukes. Yes. Okay. So 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:13.720 with these three war parties in hot pursuit, everything goes 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.399 wrong in this like situation where Furious is trying to 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.080 barter for safe passage. There's another big chase. This one 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.359 is my favorite one of the movie, by the way, 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:29.359 during and after which Max and Furiosa go from being 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.960 enemies where he is holding her hostage. Two allies who 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.119 are working together who are slowly realizing that they have 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:43.800 not too dissimilar backstory. Sure. Also during this chase, Angered 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.760 is killed or maybe at this point just fatally wounded, 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.640 which slows down and morton Joe for a while because 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:56.080 she was his favorite and she also had a nearly 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.920 full term pregnancy and he is concerned about the baby surviving. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.280 So this allows Furioso, Max and the rest of the 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.560 wives to get away and they drive onward toward the 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:13.560 green Place. Meanwhile, Capable discovers nuts on the rig. He's 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:18.120