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Speaker 1: first guest on the phone, Shaquille Griffin. Shaquille, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us, buddy Man, appreciate you guys having me. Hey,

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Speaker 1: so last year, you were a little hard on yourself

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Speaker 1: and I heard on one of the shows you gave

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Speaker 1: yourself a D or something. I don't care what you

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Speaker 1: give yourself this year, I'm giving you an a Shaquille year.

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Speaker 1: You're having a great year. And how are you feeling

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Speaker 1: so far about your season? So far, so good. I'm

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Speaker 1: feel it's pretty good, feeling pretty confident, comfortable. There's so

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Speaker 1: much more I want you to do and accompliation. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't agreet myself out right about now,

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Speaker 1: but you know, almost halfway through and I'm feeling good,

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Speaker 1: but it's definitely a lot more I can improve on

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to doing that. And good players

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Speaker 1: are never satisfied. I know. So it's six passes broken

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Speaker 1: up though. Man, it's uh, it's really cool to watch

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Speaker 1: you play and you've just been playing some great defense

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Speaker 1: and that had to have felt good in Cleveland. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've caused a couple of interceptions and you know when

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Speaker 1: that flurry of interceptions came in Cleveland, they really do

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Speaker 1: come in bunches. That one must have felt good for

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Speaker 1: you defensive backs. Oh yeah, no doubt. They're definitely so good.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's something that we try to build on. Um,

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Speaker 1: I know everybody's feeling good, and you know I played

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Speaker 1: the best thing to do. Just couple lous on it.

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Speaker 1: I know, last thing we didn't have your turnovers, but

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Speaker 1: you know that's the that's the type of mindset that

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Speaker 1: we have to build off of. You know, you always

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Speaker 1: want to try to come come out with at least

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Speaker 1: three turnovers. That's always our goal weekend and week out.

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Speaker 1: You know. But Cleveland there was a good start, so

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Speaker 1: we know it's possible. We know we can make it happy.

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Speaker 1: We just got to go out to the ball and

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Speaker 1: getting Hey, you kill. You had an opportunity to go

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Speaker 1: up against a Michael Thomas Brandon Kuds and Alldell Beckham

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Speaker 1: and now you get Julio Jones. How do you get

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Speaker 1: yourself ready for these types of matchups? Um, just prepare

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Speaker 1: them to prayer for this guy in the same way

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Speaker 1: prayer for everybody else. You know, I treat everybody the same.

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Speaker 1: I treat everybody like the best, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: just come in with the best mindset of you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to be in the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: And you know when you had some mindset, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: you just raiding some people. I'm always looking forward to

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Speaker 1: another challenge. You know, in this week, I get another one,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the best thing, like, they are the best,

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Speaker 1: and that's something mindset I'm coming in with. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know a ton of player that I'm going against,

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Speaker 1: and you just gotta be great on the day that

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Speaker 1: know he's gonna bring kids, and there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: nice competition. So I'm definitely looking forward to it. You know.

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Speaker 1: I love going to give them great receivers and and uh,

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Speaker 1: each week I get a chance at least get one,

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Speaker 1: so uh, it's always on to get things. You guys

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Speaker 1: like that, So I'm looking forward to it. What's it

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Speaker 1: like the whole off season? You pretty much with the

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Speaker 1: same group, the same secondary group, you go all through

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Speaker 1: training camp, regular season. Now you know, Quadrid Dix comes in,

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Speaker 1: And and what's that like just for you guys mentally

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Speaker 1: bringing in a new guy. You know, how do you

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Speaker 1: guys accept him and all that stuff? Oh, we're up,

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Speaker 1: we'll open on, you know. But that's the type of people,

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Speaker 1: Seattle Brains, and you know they've been getting people. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's actually cam you know, for others, not get themselves.

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Speaker 1: That type of team we have. We have a team

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Speaker 1: And that's what we try to do. And we try

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Speaker 1: And that's but in saying that we're not going to change,

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Speaker 1: does that is that something that Pete preaches? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like Pete doesn't even have to

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Speaker 1: you know, and having Digs here now he's going to

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Speaker 1: nothing he has to preach. He just already had guys

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Speaker 1: a bit. I want to talk about your style. Man.

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Speaker 1: I see you and your brother before the games. You

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Speaker 1: guys always got some kind of tired looking fresh. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a stylist or is that something you and

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Speaker 1: your brother just come up with? Uh No, No stylish, man,

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Speaker 1: No stylish. That's just as all love. You know. We

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Speaker 1: and you know, and the first thing that come to mind.

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Speaker 1: to you know, put together. So yeah, no status. I

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Speaker 1: I think we got a downpack right now. All right, Shaquille. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to check you out on the team

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Speaker 1: plane and make sure it meets, you know, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 1: you're seeing. Well here's yeah, you should laugh at that. Bumpus.

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Speaker 1: Bumpus just wears free like you don't. You still have

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Speaker 1: me free stuff? I wear a right so hey, so Shaquille,

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Speaker 1: tell us what you're seeing the Atlanta Falcons real quick

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Speaker 1: number two passing game, Matt Ryan. Not sure if we're

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Speaker 1: it's interesting Quandre Diggs. They mentioned when I found out, well,

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Speaker 1: mean something. When you read the tweets from his teammates,

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Speaker 1: how disappointed they were him leaving, not just as a player,

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Speaker 1: as a person. And the Seahawks scored big time on

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Speaker 1: day fourth quarter, we didn't win. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I was really impressed with their defense. Uh, the play

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Speaker 1: before they had to kick that field goal, it was

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Speaker 1: fourth and three, because it was like fourth and one

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Speaker 1: or third and one or two. They they played the

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Speaker 1: perimeter so well, they were so disciplined. They tried to

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Speaker 1: run a fly sweep the backside guys stayed home on

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Speaker 1: that one. Um they tried to run a little swing

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Speaker 1: route to Tyler Locket. I thought, oh, that's a good

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Speaker 1: matchup out there. There was a linebacker and a corner, David,

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Speaker 1: as you know, and you too, Michael. This is a

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Speaker 1: game of adjustments. You know where they got us. They

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Speaker 1: got us on second down on their defense. They were

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Speaker 1: ready for some fly sweeks. They were ready for some

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Speaker 1: you know, bubble screens. They when we went wide, they

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Speaker 1: were shooting the gap and instead of it coming up

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Speaker 1: third and short or first, all of a sudden, we

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Speaker 1: now we were third and long on these second down places,

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Speaker 1: and that really did hurt us. All right, no more

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Speaker 1: lamenting the Baltimore Ram Good. I'm scratching that little segment

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Speaker 1: out of the way. We're onto the Atlanta Falcons, and

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Speaker 1: coming up next, we're gonna get an opponent preview from

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Speaker 1: Orlando led Better. He's been there forever in Atlanta. He's

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Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Journal Constitution. That's next right here on

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Speaker 1: back to Hawks Live. Dave Wyman, Paul Moyer, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 1: and we're now joined on the phone for an opponent

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Speaker 1: preview Orlando led Better from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Orlando,

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Speaker 1: thanks for staying up late, sharing up problem. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me guy. All right, so tell us what you

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Speaker 1: think about what happened to practice. From what I understand, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Trufont did not practice, Matt Ryan did not practice. Those

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Speaker 1: two players, do you expect them to be ready to

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Speaker 1: go on Sunday? Yeah? I think Matt would be ready

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Speaker 1: to go. He has a high right ankle sprain or

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Speaker 1: the other big one with Grady Jared too too fine,

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Speaker 1: I do not. He has a third so and they're

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Speaker 1: bringing him back. They want to make sure he can

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Speaker 1: run at full speed. They don't want him outside. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, it's be and not questioning his you know,

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Speaker 1: not being able to play at full speed and questioning

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Speaker 1: his cuts and so forth. So I don't believe he's ready.

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Speaker 1: Matt's gunna try to play. We saw him walking around

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Speaker 1: today without a boot, so, uh, you know he's a

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Speaker 1: gamer and he's gonna try to go U Grady Jared,

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Speaker 1: I think he was gonna try to go to You know.

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Speaker 1: The one thing, Orlando is what's it's hard for us

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Speaker 1: plan Atlanta as we like Atlanta. We love Dan Quinn.

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Speaker 1: I mean, god, he was a great defensive coordinator. What

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Speaker 1: has gone wrong? A couple of years ago we were

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Speaker 1: looking at this defense as another Seahawk defense from like

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Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen, and this year obviously huge struggles.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest issue that's happened so far this year

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Speaker 1: for them? Yeah, that's fourth things. Some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that you know made it to the Super Bowl as

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Speaker 1: rookie's the second year guys you know, the next year,

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Speaker 1: they got injured and some of them are back now.

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Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill got injured again, but Diane Jones is not

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Speaker 1: the same. These are people they were counting on the

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Speaker 1: be pillars of the defense. Ricardo Allen, the free safety

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Speaker 1: or you know, Errol Thomas is not the same. He's

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Speaker 1: coming back from Achilles and he just doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: range to get to as much touch as he used

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Speaker 1: to get to. And then the defensive ends they both

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Speaker 1: drafted him in the drafted both in the first round,

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Speaker 1: Pack McKinley and Big B and UH coach Dan hasn't

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Speaker 1: been able to generate a pass rush with those guys.

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Speaker 1: So those were four pillars of the defense. That they

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Speaker 1: were counting on coming into the season and nothing has

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Speaker 1: worked with those uh four guys. Herolando, with Snoo being

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Speaker 1: shipped off to New England, how much production are you

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Speaker 1: respecting to see how the Russell cage or do you

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Speaker 1: see really getting a little a few more targets. They

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Speaker 1: were saying that Gage's gonna step into the SnO road

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Speaker 1: for now, but I think it eventually clears the path

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Speaker 1: for Ridley to get more of the more of the catches. Also,

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Speaker 1: Austin Hooper the tight end will you know, probably take

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Speaker 1: over some of the third down catches that Sanu was getting.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they're gonna I think the production will started

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Speaker 1: fliding over to Ridley, although Gage will still be a

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Speaker 1: part of the offense. So Orlando, how much in control

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Speaker 1: of the defense is Quinn now? Because I was looking

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Speaker 1: at some numbers over the last couple of years Marquan

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Speaker 1: Manuel was there and they were top ten in a

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Speaker 1: lot of categories and then this year and man, they've

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Speaker 1: slipped down to the bottom half. As he getting help

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Speaker 1: from Bob Sutton, I know he was a former defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: How's he handling the calling the defenses? Well, he had

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Speaker 1: been calling it that was a big thing when he

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Speaker 1: got rid of Mark Klan And after the game against

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Speaker 1: the Rams, he revealed that he had passed some of

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Speaker 1: the play calling responsibilities off to a couple assistants we

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Speaker 1: suspect and we pressed him and he wouldn't reveal those assistants.

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Speaker 1: So today I talked about Sudden. He said he wasn't

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Speaker 1: one of them. That his calling the plays now, So

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Speaker 1: we believe that he's sharing play calling responsibilities with linebacker

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Speaker 1: coach Jeff Olbrick and his defensive passing game coordinator Jerome

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Speaker 1: Henderson in a kind of a collaboration effort to get

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Speaker 1: the defense back on track. They just haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to get anybody stopped. They've been out scored one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty to fifty in the first half of games.

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Speaker 1: So they never they haven't been in much of many

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Speaker 1: of them, well maybe just one of the games they were.

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Speaker 1: They were in at halftime the Eagles game they beat them,

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Speaker 1: and they were in a Houston game at halftime seventeen sixteen,

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Speaker 1: but then they got the doors blown up, ended up

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Speaker 1: giving up fifty three points in that game to Houston. Again.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Dan Quinn, it seems like he's beloved. Yet

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Speaker 1: you know, the owner Banks comes out because a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an endorsement for him. But how important was

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Speaker 1: it for Julio Jones to speak about Dan Quinn and

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Speaker 1: what he means to the team And it's more on

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Speaker 1: the players and get obviously we don't want them getting

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Speaker 1: too fired up. But what was that speech all about? Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's been the top of town this week. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: my question was what took you so long? Now it's

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Speaker 1: one and sick. I mean they're about ready to usher

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Speaker 1: coach Dan about of town. Uh. This probably needed to

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Speaker 1: be done at one in three. These guys may have

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Speaker 1: been reading their pre hipping thinking they're a little bit

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Speaker 1: better than they work h and went out and got

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Speaker 1: smacked around here early in the season. This should have

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Speaker 1: been done a couple of weeks ago. It might be

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Speaker 1: too late, but it might, you know, be enough of

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Speaker 1: us sparked to get them up and get them ready

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Speaker 1: to play the Seahawks. But uh, you know, if they

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Speaker 1: have another level, Julio's asking for it right now, it's

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Speaker 1: probably something it should have been done a little bit sooner.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see if it helps against a fine Seattle

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Speaker 1: team to talk to this five and two start. For

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, it sounds like Matt Ryan may play

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Speaker 1: this weekend. But if Meshwab has to play, how confident

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Speaker 1: is this team in handed the keys over the swabbing

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Speaker 1: and getting it done well? He looked good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's thirty nine. He hadn't started in fifteen. You know,

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Speaker 1: at the end it didn't look real good for him

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Speaker 1: in Oakland and then Baltimore. But you know, in practice

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Speaker 1: when we see him, arm looks good. You know the

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Speaker 1: decision making will be good. He just gotta capture, you know,

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Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle for one day. And at thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: he certainly has the memory banks to go up, you know,

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Speaker 1: go back on that former pro bowler No. Nine and twelve.

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Speaker 1: I think they're pretty confident that, uh, you know, he

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Speaker 1: can they can play and be competitive with him. A

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Speaker 1: Matt that is not able to answer the bill. Hey,

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Speaker 1: so Matt Ryan sacked nineteen times. We're talking to Orlando

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Speaker 1: Ledbetter from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. UM offensive line pretty good.

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Speaker 1: They spent the first rounder last year on a Husky.

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Speaker 1: Caleb McGarry got Alex Mack, Jake Matthews, James Carpenter, who's

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Speaker 1: a seahawk. Are they happy with the performance with Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: especially since he gets hit and uh ends up getting

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Speaker 1: an ankle injury. Yeah, they're not too happy with the protection,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't want to single out the line. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they you know, forty three hit, they're on pace for

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Speaker 1: you know, forty forty three sacks and one hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine something plus here, which would top to forty two

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Speaker 1: and one hundred and eight they gave last year. So

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Speaker 1: they need to line to tighten things up. They're really

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Speaker 1: happy with Caleb, especially in the run blocking. They knew

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Speaker 1: he was gonna have some problems against the leak speed

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Speaker 1: and pass blocking, but you know, they're doing some things

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Speaker 1: with him and shoot his hands out quicker because once

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Speaker 1: he gets his hands on the guys, he's pretty you

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00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: can do it. Okay, had a rough deck against Dante

588
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Foller last week, but they still are very high on

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Speaker 1: him and very high on the line coming together as

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Speaker 1: a unit. They'll get Chris Lynch from back, their other

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Speaker 1: first round pick here in a couple of weeks. He

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Speaker 1: had a broken foot in the opener and James is

593
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: battling through a knee injury. But you know, they're giving

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Speaker 1: him a day of rest and then a day of practice,

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Speaker 1: and they're rotating name him with Westweisler, the third guard

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00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: who gave up the sack from to Aaron Donald and

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00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: knock Lying out of the game. So it's a hard pause.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to put the line together. Hasn't gone as

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Speaker 1: smoothly as they would like, but you know, they think,

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Speaker 1: you know, all is not lost with that group and

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00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: they can move on forward and try to build some

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Speaker 1: continuity and get things going and get things blocked up

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Speaker 1: much better for Matt Ryan Orlando. I wish that Julio

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Speaker 1: Jones had given that that speech next week. Yeah, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you said it was a little too late. We

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Speaker 1: think it's too early because you know, I mean when

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Speaker 1: you get a team fired up like that, and we

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Speaker 1: all know Dan Quinn here, I mean, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that you know is easy to love, and uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure those guys are gonna go out and play hard.

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Speaker 1: What kind of game do you think you're gonna see?

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Speaker 1: Is this gonna be a win for your falcons there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it is gonna be a back against the

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Speaker 1: wall type game for him. Give coming off of the

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Speaker 1: speech and coming up on how bad they've played the

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Speaker 1: whole uh you know part first half of this season.

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Speaker 1: You know, um, they need to show something. And I

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: think Sundays they're kind of all in gang before they

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Speaker 1: go into the bye week. So you know, if they

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Speaker 1: can stop Chris, Chris Carson will be coming home, uh

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Speaker 1: former park you high stand out here in Atlanta, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, just not let Russell kill him on the

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Speaker 1: scrambled place to lock it. Maybe they got a shot

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Speaker 1: here to pull one off before they go to the

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Speaker 1: bye That's kind of how I'm thinking this one might

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Speaker 1: work out. All right, Orlando, Well, we appreciate you staying

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Speaker 1: up late and giving us a preview, and hopefully we'll

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Speaker 1: see you out in Atlanta. All right. I think I

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Speaker 1: appreciated Dave, Paul and Michael. You guys take care and

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Speaker 1: have a great evening. All right, Thank you, sir. There

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Speaker 1: he goes Orlando led Better from the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

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Speaker 1: He's a mainstay there in Atlanta. Have a legend good

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Speaker 1: legendary newspaper writer there, you know what, And they have

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Speaker 1: so much talent. I mean, you know, Devanta Freeman was

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Speaker 1: At one point I thought one of the best running backs,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of he had a really slow start

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Speaker 1: beginning of this year. He's he's come on lately. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll give him a little bit more in the passing

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00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: game as well. But you know, cam Ridley is I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's legit. You know, they've got I mean Julio Jones.

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought when they got rid of you know,

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Speaker 1: Mohammed there, I thought, you've got to be kidding me,

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Speaker 1: you know, But at one in six and you get

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Speaker 1: what you can. Probably at this point they probably don't

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00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: think they can make the playoffs. But they got a

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Speaker 1: great tight end, they got a great running back, they

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00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: got a couple of great wide receivers. They got a

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Speaker 1: wife or quarterback who can throw it if he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: You know, nineteen sacks isn't a great thing, but they're talented.

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Speaker 1: If Matt Ryan plays this weekend, that is exceptional. I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen a guy turned a round off behind hand.

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Speaker 1: Let's sprain that quickly. Saw. I'm interested to see if

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Speaker 1: he does. Devonte Freeman tried to start a fight with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Everybody's calling him dumb. I'm like number one,

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Speaker 1: I say he's got stones because he's a five eight,

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Speaker 1: two hundred pounder going up against Aaron Donald. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is you're not rational going into a fight. People

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Speaker 1: are like, that's not very smart. Well, smart has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with it. When you're angry and you're going

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00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: into a fight, you're not sitting thinking you're gonna get whooped.

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Speaker 1: I liked it. I'm not the biggest person in the world.

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Speaker 1: If a man lists me off my feet, I gotta

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Speaker 1: throw my hands tap out. I got my head. I'm

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Speaker 1: not tapping out. I'm throwing hands at him. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't let a person disrespect you, like, yeah, he

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00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: picked him up like a small child. I'd be kicking

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Speaker 1: my feet in your legs. Just to give you all

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Speaker 1: a visual there. Oh, I actually had that happen to me.

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Speaker 1: Randall McDaniels, guard he picked you up, dude. That guy

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Speaker 1: was the strong. Somebody told me he had a two

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Speaker 1: thousand square foot weight room in his house. He was

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Speaker 1: just a ridiculously strong guy. And yeah, he got me

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Speaker 1: by the shoulder plate pads, the chest plate just kind

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Speaker 1: of like all of a sudden, my feet went up

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Speaker 1: and I was like that my feet were going Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not good. Two thousand have a two thousand square

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wough poor Paul living in Bellevue, the slums

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Speaker 1: of Bellevue. I got you. Now we're going to break.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're gonna go around the NFL check

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Speaker 1: in with the Professor John Clayton. That's next on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: to Hawks Live. Paul Moyer, Dave Wyman, Michael bump Us,

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Speaker 1: and right now on the phone, we got the professor. Professor.

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Speaker 1: Actually we're not on the phone. We're on your I

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Speaker 1: SDN line. So you're gonna sound nice and clear. Are

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Speaker 1: you enjoying the Thursday night game? Not really? No, it's

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00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: pretty bad. It's like nineteen to nine Vikings leading the Redskins.

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00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Jim Moore is happy that it's

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00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: not seventeen points yet and it's not a blowout, but

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00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: it's been a pretty bad game. I mean, Cousins hasn't

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00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: been able to generate touchdown drives. Now you got Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Haskins in there, and he's just simply not ready because

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00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: of the concussion of case Keenom not a real good

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00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: football game. Yeah, you know, unless you like field goals.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you like field goals, I guess it's

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00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: a good game. Maybe we say this every year or

699
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: more often than I think, but it just seems to

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00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: me like it's a weird year that you look at

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00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: the teams that are, you know, undefeated, like San Francisco

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00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: and New England, and you go, yeah, they didn't play anybody.

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00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: It just seems like there's not many Am I wrong

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00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: about that? It just seems like there's a lot of

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00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: really bad teams this year. And when you look at

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00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: these good teams and they're good records, it seems like

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00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: more often than not, you look at their schedule and

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00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: they feasted off the weaker opponents. Yeah, because I mean

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00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: you particularly see it in the AFC, where I mean

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00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: you can Buffalo, I mean, Buffalo, how good are they?

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Speaker 1: But the only team they they played with a winning

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Speaker 1: record is going to be New England. Close game, but

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00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: they lost that game. And then you look around the

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Speaker 1: whole AFC, they're just I mean a lot of two

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Speaker 1: win teams, a lot of really bad teams like Miami

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and all that. And you know, this to need

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00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: is a repeat of the two thousand and fourth season.

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00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: And in two thousand and four the AFC it was

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Speaker 1: really good, had Peyton Manning and had Tom Brady, some

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Speaker 1: real good teams. Pits Burg had Ben Roethlisberger and they

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Speaker 1: won forty four and twenty in the interconference games. And

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00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: so I think New England and New York Giants that

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: year won thirteen games, and there may have only been

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Speaker 1: about three or four other teams that had winning records.

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Speaker 1: To me, it reminds me of two thousand and four.

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: John the forty nine ers go out and get Emmanuel Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the move to get Diggs by the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks is a direct counter to that or do you

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Speaker 1: feel he was available guy in the backfield or at

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Speaker 1: the defensive backfield and we just picked him up, available

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Speaker 1: guy and they just picked him up. It's the same

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00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: thing as what happened today with Michael Bennett, you know,

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Speaker 1: being available because of the fact that he got suspended.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't happy about his playing time, and all of

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00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: a sudden they start shopping him around at a discounted price.

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Speaker 1: Dallas grabs him up for a seventh round pick in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one to can upgrade to maybe

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Speaker 1: a sixth round pick. Same thing. I think you can

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00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: see with Diggs, and you can see the reaction in

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00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Detroit how bad it is because the Lion players are furious.

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Darius Slay not only had tweeted out on

742
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday but follow it up on Wednesday. How mad he

743
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: was about that. And so whatever it was with the

744
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: Lions and Digs is that here's a guy that was

745
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl older than last year, may not have

746
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: had as good as season for whatever reason this year,

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: and they decided to just dump him. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: you get him for a fifth round pick, you get

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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick back in twenty twenty one. And

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00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: so it's like, no, they just did that because it's like, Okay,

751
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: he's available, We've got ten draft choices, let's do it.

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00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Chacole Bennett was fired, suspended, and traded. Did you ever

753
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: hear that? I mean now he's in Dallas. He's in Dallas. Yeah,

754
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: he screamed at Jim Moore and said you would be

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00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: fired and suspended. It's like, yeah, I think you got those.

756
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: It was a little little Strand traded John last week

757
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: a pivotal play fourth and two the Ravens, and all

758
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden horribou goes from I guess he's a

759
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: genius now because he was going to kick a few

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00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: goal calls the time out and then they decided to

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: go for What did you see down there that made

762
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: that happen? What transpired on that It was all Lamar Jackson,

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: because Lamar Jackson ended up talking Harball into doing it,

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: both with his action and his words. Because what happened is,

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00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: here's Jackson. He runs and gets the fourth and two.

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00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: They're at the eight yard line and so on that play. Ironically,

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00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, his little play card on his left wrist

768
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: got ripped off. Okay, so now he picks it up

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00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: and he starts screaming at Harball be putting the field

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Speaker 1: goal unit on. So he's walking over right in front

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Speaker 1: of me. He takes the card and he throws it

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Speaker 1: almost into the stands because he was so mad. And

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00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: so you know, police officer was able to bring it

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00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: back and get it back to you know, the coaching

775
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: staff and all that stuff, and so you know, then

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00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: they start to talk and you know, basically Lamar says,

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Speaker 1: how can we not go for this? Let's go for it,

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00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: and so Harball says, okay, fine, So he runs down,

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00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: gets the time out. Let's Lamar Jackson go on the

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00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: field and he gets the eight yard touchdown. That's not

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00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: a brilliant play by John Harball, It's a gutsy play

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00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: by Lamar Jackson that engages him to be even more

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00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: of a coaches guy that you have to trust because

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00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: he was able to get the eight yard touchdown. I

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00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: like how Clayton tells these stories, but they're scrubbed down.

786
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Speaker 1: You leave all the expletives out. Oh no, he was.

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Speaker 1: There were some bad words there. There we go, Michael

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Speaker 1: bumpus your thoughts about the NFL. I love the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I loves talking to John clay too. John. How special

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00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson? I mean we've seen a lot of

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks in the NFL, or Russell Wilson and Colin Murray,

792
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: David and Paul Well. Actually Paul thinks Lamar is the

793
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: greatest rushing quarterback of all time. How do you feel

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00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: about that? Ah, he's up there. I mean he's either

795
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: Michael Vick two point zero, Russell Wilson two point zero

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00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: or a combination of the two. He's just sensational. I

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00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: mean again, as a runner, I think he is actually

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Speaker 1: better than Michael Vick. And I don't know if he's

799
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Speaker 1: a thrower, but again, what is a thrower. He went

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: from like fifty eight percent completions to sixty five percent

801
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: completions just in the matter of this year, and so

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00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: he's getting better and better and better. I mean, clearly,

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00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: this guy is going to be sensational. You know, when

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00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: you went into the season, you didn't know for sure

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00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: whether you can endorse it because of the fifty eight

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Speaker 1: percent completion percentage. Now you can indorse it because I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's that good. And last year he came out of

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Speaker 1: the blue for an aging probably not too good Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco got them into the playoffs with four wins in

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Speaker 1: five games, and now he's having him sitting at five

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Speaker 1: and two. I just don't know if you can hold

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00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: up getting what's going to probably be two hundred carries

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Speaker 1: in a season. That's way too much. But so far,

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Speaker 1: so good. All right, professor, we appreciate the update and

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Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your evening. Hey, thank you, There

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Speaker 1: he goes John Clayton will be talking to him tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at four o'clock. You know, it's funny. Last week I

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Speaker 1: remember saying that I thought that Colin Kaepernick was skinnier

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Speaker 1: than Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson was beefier, Paul said, he

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Speaker 1: disagreed with me. But yet you came back today and

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Speaker 1: said that you thought Michael than Michael Vick. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a little bigger because I think Kaepernick at

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Speaker 1: one point, but you were talking about how he's like six,

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Speaker 1: Yeahpernick wasn't two thirty five? Well, I go look at it.

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Speaker 1: I think in his heyday might have been close to that.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty thick back in the day. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna check the records on that one. What's the

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Speaker 1: what's the most rushing yards by a QB for a season? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fourteen hundred. All right, let's see if Lamar Jackson gets

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, Paul, I know, I just threw it.

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Speaker 1: My dad would call that a wag, a wild something. Guess,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, I stand correct. Okay, that's not a

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844
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: the snow Quami Casino. This is an interesting move getting

845
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Quandre Diggs. Yes, you put that in my mind. Um, yeah,

846
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. I thought the safety position, I've been

847
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: kind of unsettled about that. I know, the big debates

848
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: on well, for a while there they were talking, people

849
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: were talking about the corners. Are they good enough? I

850
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: think that question's pretty much been answered. Those guys both

851
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: played really well and then you know there's the handwringing

852
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: over the sacks. But to me, I've been worried about

853
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: your old position, Paul, and that's safety because I just

854
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: they were so good at that position. I think they

855
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: need a hammer on defense, somebody who's a hitter. I

856
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: love Marquise Blair, I like the way plays, I like

857
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: every thing about him. But you know, it's still kind

858
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: of unsettled. Brandon McDougal having some back spasms, and then

859
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: Lano Hill has been hurt and Tedrick Thompson has kind

860
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: of fallen out of favor. I'm with you on that, Paul.

861
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: I just been saying that all week that Look, it

862
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: was two plays. They were glaring, and they were I've

863
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: never we've never heard Pete used the word distasteful. But

864
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: you know he's played well too. I mean the interceptions

865
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: he got in LA and Cleveland against the Rams and

866
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: the Browns, those were fantastic. I'm not sure if there's

867
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the league that can make

868
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: that play. But Quandre digs kind of interesting. Five to nine,

869
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. He can play safety, you can play

870
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: nickel corner. What do you think he uh he brings

871
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: to this team? Guys? You know what was interesting. I

872
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: think we are all surprised. And you know, he started

873
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: doing some research on him and you go, okay, he's

874
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: he's a seahawk kind of player they love. He's a thumper,

875
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, pound for pound, that guy will knock you out,

876
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: and he can cover, and he makes plays and he's

877
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: a leader. I'm curious. I'm curious that the move is

878
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: less about Tedrick and all the injuries. We got a

879
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: lot of young secondary guys other than McDougal, right, I

880
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: just don't think you can live with your four three

881
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: based defense seventy percent eighty percent of the time. You're saying,

882
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: we're not going to play man in those situations. And

883
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: in this league at some point you have to play

884
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: man and shut things down. You can't play zone on

885
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: third and three to an extent. You can't play a

886
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: steady diet of it at the very least. And here's

887
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: a guy that they can bring in potentially in the nickel.

888
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: And again I am speculating, like you know, nobody's business

889
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: right now. Can they bring him in there in the nickel?

890
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: And they say, Okay, we still feel pretty good against

891
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: the run and is tackling ability, you know, and maybe

892
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: they moved into free I don't know. I think right

893
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: now they're trying to figure out what is the best matchup,

894
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: and maybe it is. Eventually it's Blair, or it's Digs

895
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: at the strong safety position and you put MacDougall back

896
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: at free or maybe Diggs is that free. I gotta

897
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: see that as well. He is such an interchangeable type

898
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: of player because he can play him, he does play nickel.

899
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: He can play either one of the safety positions, and

900
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: you cannot put him and say, oh, he's only five nine,

901
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: he can't play strong safety. Yeah he can, And so

902
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to how this plays out in the

903
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: next few weeks. I think that's why they bring him

904
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: in because he can play so many positions and there

905
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: is a question at free safety because of health, and

906
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: strong safety because of hell, and the nickel because they

907
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: don't run him. And I think as the season goes along,

908
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: and especially this week, there has to be more nickel.

909
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: I think last week we didn't see it much because

910
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: of the beast rub against the double type fullback type

911
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: says there's no real need for a nickel. But I

912
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: think going forward, when you play the Falcons and you

913
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: play the Niners now who have a number one receiver

914
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders, you have to adjust a little bit.

915
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: The Hawks are always gonna say they're gonna stick by

916
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: their base stick by what they do, but this move

917
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that their thing about doing some

918
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: other things. And another thing I like about Diggs is

919
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: that maybe he teaches Blair how to play the position

920
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: in that way, because Marky's Blair wants to play the

921
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: position the way that Diggs play plays the strong state,

922
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: the free state, the position coming downhill, playing fast, hidden, hard.

923
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: So maybe there's some guidance there no matter what they're thinking.

924
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: I like the move just because of the health and

925
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: the production. And people will highlight Edred Thompson on his

926
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: two big plays he gave up. He's also made some

927
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: big plays, and I think it's just inconsistency. Man. When

928
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: you're not consistent in the spot, you can't expect the

929
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: hall just to sit down and do nothing right. They

930
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: have to make a move. You know. It's interesting, not

931
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: that this tells the whole story, but one of the

932
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: thirty yards scramble, Nickel was in you It wasn't because

933
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: they had their three linebackers and actually they got a

934
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: great blitz and Jamar Taylor came off the edge and

935
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: came all the way around and almost got him. But

936
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: you know, you take that scramble away and it puts

937
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: him down to at eighty five yards or something like that.

938
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not so sure if that's hurting them

939
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: or not. So here here's my point, because when we

940
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: play Nickel, I think we are fifth in the league

941
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: giving up thirty three percent on third down situations. That

942
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: is good, we'll take that. But when they do the

943
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: matchup on first and second down and we're giving up,

944
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, the seventy percent completion percentage, and we're bending, bending, bending,

945
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: at some point you got to get them in the

946
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: second long situation, their second and ten or third and

947
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: ten situations. And that's why I just to play sixty

948
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: five seventy percent with your base defense on first and

949
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: second down the whole time. I get the reasons, but

950
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: at some point you gotta match up and say what

951
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Are you gonna blitz? Are you

952
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: gonna play man? Are you gonna play zone? You're gonna

953
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: drop a safety? What are you doing? I know one

954
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: thing in the base defense on first second you're offensively,

955
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea what we're gonna do,

956
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: and we have to do a better job. I think

957
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: in first, second down, Yeah, you know you mentioned those

958
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: those down and distant situations. The side have to start coming.

959
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a huge play. We've been kind of

960
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: explaining that away this year that there's only four teams

961
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: that have less sacks than one of them's Atlanta. They

962
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: have five sacks. But that's a huge play, man. And

963
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: the other thing about it, it's a drive killer. I mean,

964
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: you're in second and five, that's a great situation. You

965
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: get sacked for ten yards. Now all of a sudden,

966
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: it's third and fifteen. You're pretty much most likely getting

967
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: off the field. So those have to start coming. And

968
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: it's I just to me, that's the one thing they've

969
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: really got I don't want to say clean up, but

970
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: they've got to get that going because and I'm not

971
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: saying blitz, but these guys gotta, you know, pin their

972
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: ears back and get after the quarterback, especially this week.

973
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if they have Matt Ryan out there, he's

974
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to go anywhere. Yeah. So you know,

975
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of times we've been saying, well they've

976
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: been throwing these five yard outs and things like that. Yeah,

977
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, the hurries, the quarterback hits all that, that's

978
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: all great. But they need sacks, they need to get

979
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: after the quarterback. And because I think they're equipped to

980
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, you would think this is the week

981
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: that it happens. Hobble Matt Ryan, the squab comes in.

982
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. If I'm on this defensive line,

983
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, this is the week that it happens.

984
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you a question, paul Um.

985
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: You mentioned personnel, right, So when when coaches are up

986
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: in the booth, they see what personnel the offense is

987
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: bringing out. So you're telling me that the Hawks are

988
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: sitting there and they're seeing the personnel. They're saying, doesn't matter,

989
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: We're just gonna we're just gonna stay in our base making. Yeah. Well,

990
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: they they've done that for the most part through the

991
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: first seven games. There's a little bit less I think

992
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: over the last two games, but the first four or

993
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: five games, Yeah, we were seventy plus percent you know,

994
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: base defense. And I think partly they felt confident with

995
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: their linebackers. They can all run, they can cover well.

996
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: But you're not putting a line You're not putting Kendricks

997
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: on a slot. You're not gonna put him on Ridley.

998
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: You know, and if you do, we're playing zone right

999
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: and for the most part, um and I just think

1000
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: you've got to have someone in that slot position where

1001
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: you say, all right, but we're just going to play

1002
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: a four to three defense. You're an outside linebacker, we're

1003
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: gonna play zone there. And we're looking at the run

1004
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: on first and second down, and most teams do that.

1005
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: They match up and they see eleven personnel boom, they

1006
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: immediately put five defensive backs out, sometimes six. They don't

1007
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: care if it's first or second down. The Seahawks have said,

1008
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop the run, keep things in front of us,

1009
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: and when third down comes to play and we get

1010
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: into red zone, we're going to tighten things up. And

1011
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: we have. We're great on third down. We're fantastic in

1012
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: the red zone. Defensively, we're five and two, so this

1013
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: is not a doom and globed situation. But if you

1014
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: really want to get these guys three and out, I

1015
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: think we've got to start matching up a little bit

1016
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: more in first and second let me ask you guys

1017
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: really quick, we've gotta go to break right now. But

1018
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: there's been some talk about Michael Kendricks speaking of that

1019
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: he's the one guy. And when Paul's talking about Nicol,

1020
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: you're bringing a receiver in for or I'm sorry, a

1021
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: dB in for a linebacker, and eleven personnels, one tight end,

1022
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: one running back, three wide receivers. Michael Kendricks misses a

1023
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: lot of tackles. But here's what I've said about him.

1024
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: He's and Bob Stealton made this comparison, it's like a

1025
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: short stop with really really good range, Like he's gonna

1026
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: get to a lot of balls and maybe it's gonna

1027
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: tip off his glove, but another short stop wouldn't even

1028
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: get there. I feel like that's the story with Kendrick. Yes,

1029
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: I've seen him slide off a few tackles, but I

1030
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: also think he gets there more or more easily, more

1031
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: often than other linebackers. Agree or disagree, Yeah, I see that.

1032
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: And when you just look at him, you look at

1033
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: the size Michael Kendricks. I don't know his measurements, but

1034
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: I would guess he's about six foot maybe five level,

1035
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: two hundred forty five pounds like he's When you look

1036
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: at him, he looks like he has a lot of range.

1037
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: And when I do, when I see him miss tackles,

1038
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: it's almost like on a punt return. I I was

1039
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: a gunner on the punt team and I had tackle

1040
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: guys since freaking high school. But they put me on

1041
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: a gun as a punt team and my job was

1042
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: just to go down and just take a shot at

1043
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: the first guy to slow him down, and everyone else

1044
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: come clean him up. So maybe that's kind of the

1045
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: approach that they're taking with He'll get there, he might

1046
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: not make the tackle, but he'll slow the guy down,

1047
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: and there's a bobby, there's a kJ to come clean

1048
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: it up. Well. And I think as coaches, you battle

1049
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: with this one. And I'll throw this out at you.

1050
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a guy who makes ten tackles

1051
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: a game and missus two or a guy who makes

1052
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: six tackles a game and missus nuneat? You know, but

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Speaker 1: those two are they're glaring. You go, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: So it's the battle of Yeah, but he gets to

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Speaker 1: the ball so much that you know, he makes some mistackles.

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Speaker 1: Other guys maybe play a little more cautious. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's the challenge you're looking at and that trade off

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Speaker 1: all the time. All right, Coming up next, we'll go

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Speaker 1: inside the film room with Coach Moyer and Coach Bumpus

1060
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: look at three of the most critical plays from the game,

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Speaker 1: including what looked like a throwaway from Russell Wilson. That's

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Speaker 1: we appreciate them hosting us. All right, let's go into

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Speaker 1: the film room, guys. First thing, first play. This is

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Speaker 1: what I mentioned in the teas Russell Wilson. I turned

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Speaker 1: away from this play. It ends up being an eight

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown. I really I missed a really good play.

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Speaker 1: I should have just kept my eyes on the ball.

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00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: But Russell looked like he was throwing the ball away.

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00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: But out of nowhere came Tyler Lockett. Russell has time

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00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: pump fakes. Now he looks now he's got to get

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00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 1: rid of it. A flag is down, but the throat

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Speaker 1: of a corner of the inso was caught by Tyler

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Lockett for a touchdown. The flag is down. Russell took

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00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: a shot, but he throws it up to the quarner

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00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: of the Enzo and lucky number sixteen, Locket comes up

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00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: with the touchdown. I'm telling you, Russell Wilson is an

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00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: absolute magician. An eight yard touchdown catch. When I thought

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Speaker 1: he was throwing the ball, do you think he was

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00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: throwing it away? Bump, No, I don't think he was.

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Speaker 1: He was throwing away. He wouldn't make sure he's in

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00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. Well, he put it

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Speaker 1: in a place where I'll say this, where only Tyler

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00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: could get to it. But the thing that worried me

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00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: about it is he kind of got hit as he

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: was releasing the ball. He was sort of falling down.

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00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah he was. He was careful with it

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00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: in that instance. So what I see here once the

1095
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: Hawks getting to the red zone, they love that trips

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00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: formation if they want to throw the ball. And there's

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: been a week where Tyler Lockett has been the closest

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00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: receiver to the tackle. He runs a corner, they throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. The week before against the Browns. Jeron Brown

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Speaker 1: was the guy who was the number three receiver, runs

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Speaker 1: the corner, throws the ball. So what they do is

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00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: they give the Ravens the same look they did last

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00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: the week before. Thought, hey, look we're gonna get into trips.

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00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: We're gonna put Jeron Brown as a number three receiver.

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00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they think that he's gonna run the corner. They

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00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: put Tyler Locket in motion. He becomes the number three

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Speaker 1: and he it's the corner um and now Russell just

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00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: throws it up. He sees Humphrey has his back to him,

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00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: and just like against the Rams, when Russell sees a

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00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: dB with the back to him and he wants to

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00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: go to a guy, he's gonna take that chance and

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00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: throw the ball. It wasn't the greatest ball he did

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00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: get hit. But end of the day, if I am

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Speaker 1: the opposition, if I'm going against the Seattle Seahawks in

1115
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: the red zone, I'm gonna look for the slant slant

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00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: corner combination all day because they've been really good at

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Speaker 1: it and they've been successful at it. I got nothing

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Speaker 1: to add there. Yeah, you know, it's another Russell Wilson

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00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: magic at it makes something out of nothing. Yeah. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's why it's so shocking. And you have to give

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00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: Russell a break. But you know the interception he throws

1122
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, You go, wow, that was bad. But

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Speaker 1: come on, man, I was driving to the stadium and going,

1124
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen at some point he's gonna throw an interception.

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Speaker 1: Oh you thought it. I'm not. No. I did not

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Speaker 1: say it out loud. Okay, it was not my fault. Okay,

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Speaker 1: didn't you ask Tyler Lockett? Like he said he threw

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Speaker 1: the ball, he spiked it a little harder. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: was it His answer to that? He said that, Uh

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Speaker 1: he told his girlfriend he was that was for her. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. He just said, uh, he just

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Speaker 1: felt a little something extra now that Tyler Lockett such

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00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: a mean guy. He spiked it hard. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: he's a you know, he recited poetry for us. I

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Speaker 1: asked him, you know, I thought I was gonna get

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Speaker 1: like a couple of lines. He did like a whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and he had to all memorize. Of course it was.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. So yeah, pick up his book Reflections, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I know you like, I love poetry. I love it

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Speaker 1: when the less uh sort of familiar and popular man

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Speaker 1: from Nantucket series. That's what Paul likes to read. All right,

1142
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: coming up next, Uh, Marquise Blair comes up. I just

1143
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: love the way he played. They gotta get him on

1144
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: the field, I believe. But he has a beautiful past

1145
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: hip and remind of the nearest side. kJ Wright is

1146
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: on him. Trit set right, the throw across the formation

1147
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: knocked down. Blair was right there, Marquise Blair, I'm knocking

1148
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: away from a tight end. Mark Andrews. Marquis Blair is

1149
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: the real deal now. He Their coaches have loved him.

1150
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: He's just been a matter dave of trying to kind

1151
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: of understand what the Seahawks defense is all about. But

1152
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to a physical ability, he has been

1153
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: on every plant. So Mark Andrews their tight end coming in,

1154
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: who is really good. He had kind of a rough day.

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00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: He had a couple of good catches, but he drops them.

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00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 1: But he just runs like a six yards stick route.

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00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: So he's gonna stick his foot in the in the

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00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: ground and go to angle right towards the sidelines. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about his footwork there, Paul, Marquis Blair, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He kind of stopped a little bit, but he sort

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00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: of kept him going. And the thing I liked about

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Speaker 1: him is, I know that a lot of times dbs

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00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: will kind of panic and grab the guy. He didn't

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: grab him with the upfield shoulder, reached with the long

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00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: arm and just tipped it away. Beautiful. There's no panic indeed,

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Speaker 1: bes But I get your point there, Dave. Um. Here,

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Speaker 1: here's here's what I press the eighties wearing number twenty.

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Speaker 1: I never got. I never got called for it though.

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Speaker 1: Um you never got a pass interference. Oh, I'm sure

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00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: once it was wrong. But what impressed me was just

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00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: his closing speeder. I mean he got his feet down.

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Speaker 1: Mind me, a little bit of Coleman last year. Once

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: he gets his feet down, and when you have a

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Speaker 1: speed cut like that, and it doesn't matter if it's

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00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: a running back, a wide receiver, a tight end, a

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Speaker 1: tight end who can run a four to seven four eight,

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Speaker 1: you know when he does a speed cut, that first

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00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: step separation it's there, and it's really hard for a

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Speaker 1: dB on a timing route to undercut that and make

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: that play. He did. I mean he as soon as

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: he made it, he was immediately on the tight ends

1182
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: hip and then he undercut and knocked the ball away.

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: He is a playmaker. I mean, he makes plays, and

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00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: it's that's never been the issue. Their whole thing was

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00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: he's got to learn the defense. He's got to learn

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: you know what you can't do, you know, Chuck Knox

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: and bring those up here for you, Dave. He used

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00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: to say it all the time, it's you're all gifted guys,

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00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: but the great ones know what they can't do, and

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Speaker 1: you avoid that. And I think he's starting to understand

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00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: that now. Is Hey, they're sometimes it's okay to get,

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, a ball thrown underneath you. It's okay to

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00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: let other guys make plays. Do your job, and I

1194
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: think that's what we saw last week. All right, next play, unfortunately,

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00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: something the Seahawks did not do. Lamar Jackson with a

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00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: big scramble a thirty yard gain on third and eight.

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00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: Jackson steps up to the center. Talk just about tick down.

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Jackson steps up in the pocket. He's gonna break free.

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Speaker 1: He's got running room twenty five. Lookout thirty down. The

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Speaker 1: sidelife tripped up and dropped at the forty yard line.

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Speaker 1: Far side. Making the tackle was Tedric Thompson. He looks

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Speaker 1: like he's hurting, and this guy Jackson can take nothing

1203
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: and turn it into a thirty yard gain in a heartbeat. Yeah,

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00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: it looked like Bobby was the spy guy again, a

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00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: well designed designed to scram because it looks like the

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Speaker 1: full back comes out of the backfield and blocks Bobby

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Speaker 1: and just gets just enough a piece of him. I thought, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: you look like he was running hard, but you know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna who's gonna be able to catch Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 1: And then when you put a blocker on him, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they were looking at kJ. Wright was on

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Speaker 1: their tight end. He was definitely looking for the tight end.

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Speaker 1: It was a stick route. Also, uh, kJ had great

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Speaker 1: coverage on him, and that in that situation, it almost

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Speaker 1: looked like it was a designed run. It's not. I

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Speaker 1: mean here about that. Yeah, go look at it him

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Speaker 1: he pulls the ball down. I mean he's looking at

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Speaker 1: him and the and Bobby a few times in spied

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Speaker 1: in that game. Whether go look at the running but

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Speaker 1: running backs looking to see if anybody is getting through

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Speaker 1: the line, and he's looking to pick up one of

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Speaker 1: the defensive line. He looks real quick to his left

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Speaker 1: and then he steps up and he gets Bobby Wagner,

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Speaker 1: but he is looking hard look at the end zone.

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Speaker 1: When he looking hard at that tight end, pulls it

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Speaker 1: down and then takes off on scram But we actually

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Speaker 1: come off the corner with our nickel on the slot

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Speaker 1: side to there there left or right, we come off

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Speaker 1: the corner with our nickel. So we got five guys

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Speaker 1: uh going after quarterback there. So yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: not a designed run, but it is a well if

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Speaker 1: that you want to call it your secondary playoff of

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Speaker 1: that that you say, hey, if it's not there, we scramble.

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Speaker 1: I am gonna say I'm gonna say give Teddrick Thompson

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Speaker 1: some credit here though. That was a great tackle. He

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: had a guy right in front of him. He shed

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Speaker 1: that guy. And I've never seen Bobby run faster and

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Speaker 1: have a guy pull away from him faster. I mean,

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01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is world class feet. Another thing that makes

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01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: me even further believe that Lamar Jackson is super fast.

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: Whenever you got a defender chasing after you, you do

1242
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Speaker 1: nothing and he stumbles, that means he's he's given everything.

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Speaker 1: He has everything, like man, that's it. That's all I got. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm cramping up running all right. Coming up next, we'll

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Speaker 1: go around the NFL, look at some of the trades,

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Speaker 1: some of the teams, and I want to hear from

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Speaker 1: you guys. This is a weird year. Like we talked

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Speaker 1: to the professor about, there's a lot of good teams

1249
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Speaker 1: that are feasting on week schedules and we'll evaluate the

1250
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Speaker 1: Seahawks schedule and whether or not they're for real five

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Speaker 1: and two team. That's next on Hawks Live. Hawks Live

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Speaker 1: trip around the NFL here, talk about rumors and you know,

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Speaker 1: talk behind people's backs and things like that. Get together

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Speaker 1: like us girls like to do. And the first guy

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01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: probably on the list, Michael Bennett. Michael Bennett getting traded

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: shipped off out of New England. Bill Belichick doesn't put

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Speaker 1: up with a lot of stuff there. But you know,

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: my first question was, so he got suspended last week

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01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: because of what conduct detrimental to the team however they

1264
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: want to say that, but there were some yelling. So

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: my first question was was it on the field or

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: was it in an office? Yeah, because that makes a

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: big difference. Though you yell out on the field, that's

1268
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: one thing. But it turns out it was in an

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01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: office and he was screaming and yelling about playing time.

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01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: They suspended him, and I know in his press conference

1271
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: he came out and they asked him, did you learn anything?

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: And he's like no, So, I mean he was being

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: kind of defiant about it, and now he got traded

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: to the dollars. Stop. I mean, Dave, you've seen him

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: yell in a room before, and it was disturbing five

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01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: feet away. It was disturbing. I mean, his behavior was

1277
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: not normal. It wasn't rational. It was disturbing on how

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: he did. So take that moment and you remember the moment,

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01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: and now put that in someone who's your authority and

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01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: you come in there and start screaming. I don't care

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01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: who you are, what it is. You don't scream it

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: your coach in a room because you don't like what

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01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: he says. Was the coach screaming at him? I seriously

1284
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: doubt it. I loopen it. It's just time, you know.

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01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in Dallas. I watched the first

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01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: game he played this year and I was like shocked.

1287
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: I wow, he still got it and for some reason,

1288
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: whether he wasn't doing what he was supposed to do,

1289
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: which is you know that's probably eighty percent chance that's true.

1290
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: And they just said, you know what, we're a team defense.

1291
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: You can't just go do whatever you want. He only

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: played eleven in the last fifty play or the last game,

1293
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: and I look, I'm not a fan of him. I

1294
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: know he's done some great things, but I've still come.

1295
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: You always say bad behaviors, bad behavior. When you keep

1296
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: having it, you get tired of it. Our producer, that's

1297
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: un Toby hit on the head. He goes, okay, the

1298
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: two franchises that kind of real guys in the Seahawks

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01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: and the pages of both giving him boot. Then he

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01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: goes to Dallas with Garrett, who I feel like has

1301
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: really no control over the team at all, and it's

1302
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: all the upstairs with with the owner there. So I

1303
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: want to see does he learn from this experience as

1304
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: you go to Alice got I got a fresh start.

1305
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm playing for the Cowboys that's changed things up? Or

1306
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: does he allow the non authords hate of Garrett to

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: enable his I guess his bad behavior. You guys ever

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: have that conversation with a coach before, because I have.

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01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: My last year in Denver, I went to Shanahan, who

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: was both the GM and the coach. You know who

1311
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 1: I went to first. I went to John Elway, said

1312
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: what do you think about I think I should be playing.

1313
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: And there's a guy playing, Dante Jones, who was a

1314
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Bears, and he came there and I

1315
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: turned out I end up playing the last eleven games

1316
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: because he got hurt. But there's no screaming and yelling.

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01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: You just go in and say, hey, look, I think

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01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: i'm I've done enough to be the starter and to

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: play more. Why am I not out there? There's no

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: scenario where you would go in and scream and yell

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01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: at a coach when you're asking for more playing time

1322
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: or just having a disagreement with him about whether you're

1323
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: starting or anything that happens on the field. But my

1324
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: dilemma was if I was a free agent and um

1325
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: I had a solid first year and I worked my

1326
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: way up the depth chart. I'm like the fourth receiver

1327
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: at this time, and for some reason, I wasn't getting

1328
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: reps in practice. And you know, if you're gonna play

1329
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: by the reps, you're getting practice. And I'm and my

1330
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: reps are getting cut short. And I'm not a yell

1331
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a screamer, but I'm making plays. I'm making plays,

1332
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: and I don't understand why I'm not getting red. So

1333
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: finally I make a play in practice over a veteran.

1334
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: It was a huge player. Everyone's going crazy and I

1335
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: slammed the ball and I just yell out, give me

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01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: more reps. And that's as far as I went. I

1337
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: didn't talk to a coach and I just put it

1338
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: on film. I'm gonna make a play, I'm gonna scream out,

1339
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: give me more bleeping reps. Yeah. But on the field,

1340
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: on the field, yeah, So that's a huge difference. I mean,

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: you go into an office and do that, that's yeah,

1342
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: it's no longer that in practice or a game. There's

1343
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: a motion. I get it. You don't want to see

1344
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: it often, and I get it happens every once in

1345
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: a while. You go into someone's office and you start

1346
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: doing I mean, it's premeditated, you're not willing to listen.

1347
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: And I and your heart at hearts, you really already

1348
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: know you you know, if you're why you're not playing,

1349
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, if the guy starting, if he's truly better

1350
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: than It's rare that I didn't know. I'm just you know,

1351
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying most times, you know, though, I mean

1352
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: you do know. And again, all you can do is

1353
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: say why, and if they give you the answer, you say, Okay,

1354
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on that, and that's all you can do.

1355
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: So again, Bennett, we probably talked to him. Were blue

1356
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: in the face? Move on? Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo, I'm just

1357
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: looking at his numbers and I'm looking at his completion

1358
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: percentage really bad last week, but that was because of

1359
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: that pig flop they played in out in Washington the

1360
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: Redskins and fifty seven percent completion there through an interception,

1361
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: no touchdowns. But he's got two four, five interceptions and

1362
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: six touchdowns. You guys think Jimmy Garoppolo is for real?

1363
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: I quite frankly in San Francisco, all I care about

1364
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: is that running game. I think they do a really

1365
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: good job with their running game, and that's really that

1366
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: in their defense. Is what makes their defense is leget

1367
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: their running game will be a problem. I mean, it's

1368
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna be something we're gonna really have to prepare for.

1369
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is one of those guys you watch on film.

1370
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: I go, Okay, good decision, Oh wow, it's quick release.

1371
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh that was really accurate, And then all of a sudden,

1372
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: he'll just throw some bonehead throws. You go, what was

1373
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: he thinking there? Um, So, I'm not one hundred percent

1374
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: sold on him, but he can beat you. He's good

1375
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: enough to beat you. And if he hands it off,

1376
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: he can make all the throws. It's just if he

1377
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: has to throw it thirty forty times, I just think

1378
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: he will put them in harm's way and they'll lose

1379
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: because of that. That's That's what I'm I'm waiting to see,

1380
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: is can he win a game? And when you have

1381
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: a good defense and a good running game, like you're

1382
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: just asked to manage the game pretty much. I kind

1383
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: of lost faith in Jimmy during the preseason when he

1384
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: said he threw into like a triple cover so and

1385
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, you just practiced on things like that

1386
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: during the preseason, and the answer just didn't make sense.

1387
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: It made me feel like there's a guy who who's

1388
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: just kind of winging it right now. I don't think

1389
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: he's wining it. He's professional. He wins ball games. What

1390
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: he lost two games or something as a as a

1391
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: starter for the Feigners. I don't know what. It's something crazy,

1392
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: but I don't believe in him yet because he hasn't

1393
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: been asked to win a game. Once you're asked to

1394
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: win a game, and you gotta make this drive, you

1395
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: gotta put put these series together. Then you earn some

1396
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: kind of respect in the league. But they are six

1397
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: and oh, so he's doing something. They can win with him.

1398
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: But I think the point you brought up is they're

1399
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: down fourteen and the fourth quarter. Can he go win

1400
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: that game for him? I don't know that answer yet. Yeah,

1401
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: we know number three can. Yes. Yeah. So well, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get your guys predictions here coming up next. What

1403
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: you think is gonna happen? Like I said, it's too

1404
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: bad that Julio Jones speech about winning. Come on, Dave,

1405
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: come on, almost automatic win. Okay, No, I'm kidding, it's kid,

1406
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not like the win one for the

1407
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: Gipper or anything like that. But we'll wrap it up up,

1408
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Speaker 1: make our make our predictions, and get you ready for

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Speaker 1: the air sitting up here. But I was mentioning going

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Speaker 1: into the break, So Julio Jones went and gave this

1415
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: big save the coach speech to everybody. And it's easy

1416
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: to imagine that because Dan Quinn, the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, was here for a number of years.

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Speaker 1: Just a great guy. Everybody loves dan Quinn Quinny as

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01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: they call him, and so you can understand why. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I wish that Julio Jones

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: had waited maybe a week or two so that the

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks wouldn't be going into that. But but what is

1423
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: a speech? Really? What is a charge? I think we

1424
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: had a number of those. It's usually means you're on

1425
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: a big time losing street. Paul I was gonna say

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: we had a number of those in the ninety two season. Yes.

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01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: We were two and fourteen that year. Yes, I said,

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 1: after the twelfth team only player meeting, I said, I

1429
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: think that's enough. Yeah, they're not working. Yeah, when when

1430
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: you kicked the coaches out and say hey, we need

1431
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: to have a player meeting, sometimes the wrong guy gets

1432
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: up there and starts talking, screaming and yelling, and everybody's like,

1433
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: what's this guy talking about? Plus you made a point, Michael,

1434
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: and during the break like, how much does that really

1435
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: get you? It only lasts you about a series or

1436
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: a play or a few plays, because at the end

1437
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: of the day, you got to line up and execute

1438
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: to play against a defense or gets an offense, and

1439
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: maybe that gets one guy hyped up and he makes

1440
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: a play, but you need eleven guys moving at the

1441
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: same page at the same time. So I think in

1442
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: high school maybe it helps a little more the higher

1443
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: you go up in college, a little less. In the NFL.

1444
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a business. You know. You gotta get

1445
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: guys to realize, like you're fighting for your livelihood. Forget

1446
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: this emotion. If you're if you've to this point, you're

1447
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna play with enough emotion, enough passion on your own.

1448
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: Now it's just about doing your job. So at the

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: college level, I don't think it matters that much. I

1450
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: think great speeches and at the excuse me, at the

1451
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: NFL level, great speeches at the NFL level or after

1452
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: a game after you won a super Bowl or a

1453
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: big win or a game ball or something. That's where

1454
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it matters the most. We've had, We've

1455
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: had some good wins the night before games and it's emotional.

1456
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: But I'll ask you, guys, I mean you don't have

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Speaker 1: to say who or maybe can think about it the

1458
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: greatest speech you ever heard the night before a game

1459
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: or during the week and now opening kickoff? Do you

1460
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: remember that speech at all? No, not one second. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: we had a guy named Dick Menini who was a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator at Stanford and he was an old marine

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Speaker 1: guy and he had this thing. I have to leave

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Speaker 1: some of the exploitters out, but it was like charge

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Speaker 1: the hill and plant the bleeping flag and everybody was

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01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: fired up and then it's like, now we have to

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: go to bed. This was the night before. You know,

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to time those the right way. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll throw this out. You though, what about

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01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner's speech on the Cleveland sidelines. That's different about

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: I feel like you're you're in the fight. You know,

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: it's not before the fight. It's not halfway through the

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: fives I have to fight. You are in the fight.

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: You're throwing haymakers. And I think that that matters the

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: most if a leader can grab some guys in the

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01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: middle of the situation, because now it's real, you really

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: feel what the speech is about. Either you're getting your

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: bust kick or you're doing the butt kicking. You feel

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: it before and after stuff. There's so much time to

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01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: lose that feeling. I think, Yeah, you're in the moment.

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01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: It's it's like a slap in the face, you know,

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: where some guys you're just you're out of control. It's

1483
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 1: like the slap of it. Okay, you're focusing. So you

1484
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: get a guy who's you know, you know you can't

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 1: do it all the time. I mean it's like you know,

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: calling you know, you know, you know, yelling wolf. You

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: can't do that over and over people stop listening. But

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01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: you can time it right on the sideline. That has

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Speaker 1: an impact to me. Yeah, you know, Ring of Honor

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01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: member Jacob was great. I don't know if a second

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: year or third year. But he got up and I

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01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: didn't know him that well, and he was the leader

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: of the defense. But he got up and I think

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: we were on two and he goes, who's gonna make

1495
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: a play? I'm gonna I'm gonna get three sacks, and

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: he wrote it up on the chalkboard and I was

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01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, boy, this guy's full of crap. There's

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: no chance that that's gonna happen. He went out three

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01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: sacks in that In that game. I was like, I'll

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01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: never doubt Jacob Cretya. I went up on the board

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: said Jacob's gonna get three sacks. I wouldn't call him

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: myself out now. But Jacob was emotional. He would cry

1503
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: and it was real. I mean it was from the heart,

1504
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: and he would get me fired up and he you know,

1505
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: I think I did one speech. It was nineteen eighty eight.

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: We were playing the Raiders a day before we had

1507
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: to win to go to the playoffs. Was the last

1508
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: game of the year. Yeah, and we were gonna be

1509
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: nine and seven, we win the division, yes, if we won,

1510
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: and uh, and I you know, I was just emotional

1511
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: because you know, he's he'd been together with these guys,

1512
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: you don't know if you're gonna play with them again.

1513
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: And there was a group that I just loved being around.

1514
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: And we went out and one we did give up

1515
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: like thirty nine points on defense, but we did win

1516
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, I remember John L. Williams running a

1517
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: bunch of screen. He had a seventy five yards scoring screenplay.

1518
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: John L. Williams maybe one of the more underrated guys

1519
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: from Florida first round draft choice. Really good player, great

1520
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield, you know, catching passes. I

1521
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: remember that game as they were up six points, like

1522
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: forty three, thirty seven, whatever score was, and they throw

1523
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: a Hail Mary at the last play of the game

1524
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: and it's and I'm there and I'm next to Willie

1525
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: Gult and I go, all, this thing is coming right now.

1526
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: This is bad. I mean, he's positioned right. I remember

1527
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: stepping on his foot and taking my left hand and

1528
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: grabbing us hip pants and pulling him down. So if

1529
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: you ever go out to film, he goes to jump,

1530
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't get one inch off the ground. And you know,

1531
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: we knocked the ball away, thank goodness, But you're cheating

1532
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 1: your ass off. Weren't you if you get cut? Okay,

1533
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: all right, no get no cut there? Well what do

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: you what do you think about this weekend? I feel

1535
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: like they're just a superior team. I mean this their

1536
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 1: defense has given up a lot and you know, for

1537
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: for Russell to go in there, their number thirty one

1538
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: in scoring. I think Miami's the only team. Miami's like

1539
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: dead last in every category. Unfortunately, they're not on the

1540
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: schedule this year, but New England gets them again. Yeah.

1541
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: New England's already played the Jets twice, so they're kind

1542
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: of feasting off that. But yeah, that's just it's I

1543
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: don't care how many speeches that they get. It's it's

1544
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: not as good of a team as the Seahawks. And

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: I feel like they've done a really good job on

1546
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: the road this year. Yeah, I mean losses are at home.

1547
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at going. Man, if they can find a way,

1548
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: like if you could go six and two on the road,

1549
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: that would be a major accomplishment. I mean, you want

1550
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: to try to win all your home games and go

1551
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: five hundred on the road. But they're also an awfully

1552
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: good start. I think for all the things that the

1553
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: Hawks will want to do. This game is set up

1554
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: for it. The Falcons are twenty eighth against the past.

1555
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: They're giving up about one hundred and twenty yards a

1556
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: game on the ground. They have a quarterback whoever starts

1557
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: Matt ryaner Swab, who aren't mobile, so our defensive line

1558
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: could get some pressure on them. I think this is

1559
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: a game that just get back to normal, get back

1560
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: to what the Hawks like to do. Run the full

1561
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: ball that Russell shining bid and jumps start this defensive line.

1562
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: There has to be three to four sex. Yeah, you know,

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01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: I hope they're number two, you know passing in the league,

1564
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: and they throw it a ton and you know, Freeman

1565
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: starting to get on track. They got you know, Julio Jones,

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01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: they got a great tight endy, they got players. I

1567
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to score some points. I mean,

1568
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: they are defensive. I'm just looking hearing some of their stats.

1569
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: They're thirty second third down conversions, they're thirty thirtieth given

1570
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: up first down to thirty second sacks per game. I mean,

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01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: they're they're really struggled defensively. So we are gonna have

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: to take it to them offensively because I think they'll

1573
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: move the ball I think this is just an offense

1574
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: and I'm throwing that's if they got Matt Ryan, they

1575
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: got Shob in there, we should take care of business.

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks are plus four in turnover ratio. They're minus eight,

1577
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: so not good Matt Shob if we get the backup

1578
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: quarterback in there. I don't know if you guys remember

1579
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, the Seahawks go to Houston and Matt Shab

1580
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: had thrown two pick sixes the two games before the

1581
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks came in. Richard Sherman picks off that bootleg pass

1582
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: and scores a touchdown. That was that was the one

1583
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: where he ran out of his shoe. Yeah, yeah, And

1584
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: there's a picture at the vMac, huge blown up picture

1585
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: of him stepping out of his shoe returning that for

1586
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He threw a pick six the next week,

1587
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: so I saw the probably the likelihood of him throwing

1588
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: four pick sixes in a row. I didn't even know

1589
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: he's still in ten million. I didn't either. He's like

1590
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: sixteen years in the league and he's made a nice

1591
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: career for himself. But I wouldn't mind seeing Matt Shaub

1592
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: out there instead of Matt Ryan. All right. Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming everybody, We really appreciate it. Thanks for

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01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: and of course our awesome executive producer Nasa Choby for

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Speaker 1: Shaquille Griffin. I want to thank the Professor and Orlando

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01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: Ledbetter from Atlanta for giving us an opponent preview for

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer and Michael Bumpus. I'm Dave Wyman. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us on Hawks Live and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next Thursday,