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Speaker 4: We support you as long as you're don't hurt nobody.

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Speaker 3: Chuck Spear says, if the Rolling Stones, Guns and Rolls

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Speaker 3: You're like, okay, man, yeah, I mean you can have it.

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Speaker 3: The poe for episode six sixty seven, Trader Toes was

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Speaker 4: Some people are just devious that way.

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Speaker 3: Yes they are, honey, Her sister just sound like she

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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine the scenario that you try to

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Speaker 4: Man or woman?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Juwan says Rod. I agree with Karen on this one. Well,

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Speaker 3: I figured everybody would. I'm not surprised. People are just

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Speaker 4: Sex is it should be about choice.

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Speaker 3: I think we have an obligation to reveal our potential

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Speaker 3: Sexually assaulted had that choice and sexual agency taken from them.

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Speaker 3: may not affect their partner. Well, I will say this

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Speaker 3: This is the me who I'm meant to be, So

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Speaker 3: I didn't This isn't a choice I'm making. You're having

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Speaker 3: However, STD analogy came up as well, and I hate

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Speaker 3: So I think it's the difference between like if you

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Speaker 3: You should probably tell somebody, you know, but you can't

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Speaker 3: But what choice are you taking from them.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't understand what choice are you taking

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Speaker 8: Ok yeah, because you know for me, yeah to me

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Speaker 2: But give me that right and give me that choice.

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Speaker 8: When I don't have all the facts, I can't make

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Speaker 8: Because if I tell you the truth and I come

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 8: You're you're stripping the other person of the option and

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Speaker 2: You on the full truth of you and who you are.

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Speaker 8: Because if this is the real you, as you were saying,

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is the real you, Well, then let me

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Speaker 8: Your history and who you used to be is also

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Speaker 8: different story because in that case, everybody's that they're fucking

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Speaker 8: All they know is your funk, your body far so

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Speaker 3: Well also, though we're taking his word for it, like

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Speaker 3: I would want to hear from Rhanda. Was she really

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Speaker 2: And that's true too.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what for three months they had never

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Speaker 3: who married her sister is right, you know what I mean?

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00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: Like this is this something about just this scenario doesn't

442
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: seem one hundred percent to me. I feel like you

443
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: can't possibly know that she was going to or not

444
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 3: going to sleep with him. And when you confront somebody,

445
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He doesn't sound like he

446
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 3: was the most level added about his confrontation. Part of me,

447
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: who knows what the fuck kind of answers to you? Oh, well,

448
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna win to you after we had sex.

449
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I don't know it just I

450
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 3: don't feel as cut and dry about it as everybody else.

451
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: I guess it doesn't.

452
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 3: It seems like life is more murky and gray than

453
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: this then just oh, and you naturally know you just

454
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 3: tell them on the first day, the second date, and

455
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: I don't know right before he sticks it in, Like,

456
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't know when you tell somebody this kind of shit.

457
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: I also don't know if you're obligated to tell anybody

458
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 3: something like this, because I might want to be sexually

459
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: intimate with you, but not emotionally intimate with you. I

460
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: might not want you, know what I mean. I might

461
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: not feel safe in that kind of way. And people

462
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 3: have all kinds of sex out here without trust and

463
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: love and all this shit. So to me, it's means

464
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: like we're trying to change the because it involves someone

465
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 3: that was that's transactional. We want to raise the bar

466
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 3: into like, hey, you need to come clean with everything.

467
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know that you do need to

468
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 3: have to come clean when somebody to have sex with them.

469
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Speaker 4: I don't know that you do.

470
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Speaker 8: And I guess for me, that's one reason why I'm

471
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 8: glad I'm not dating, because that's some shit that I

472
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 8: straight gave by.

473
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Speaker 2: Whatever you are, I will have issues with that because

474
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: if I'm laying with you, if you.

475
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 8: Sticking your penis inside of me, I would hope that

476
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Speaker 8: you love and care about me enough to tell me.

477
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Speaker 2: But that's just me, you know, that's just me.

478
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: Now, I would actually, honestly, I would hope you would.

479
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 3: That's the thing. I hope you would tell me, you

480
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean, But I don't feel that you're

481
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: obligated to. But I hope that we have a kind

482
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: of relationship enough where we can I've given off at

483
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 3: least enough of a vibe, and we have a built

484
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: up a reporter where you could tell me that where

485
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Speaker 3: you feel safe saying that.

486
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Speaker 4: I would. I would like to, you know what I mean,

487
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Speaker 4: I don't, but I would like that in a whole.

488
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: Bunch scenarios, not just this, but any That's just the

489
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: way I view sex and love is. I would like

490
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: for that person to feel like, if we're going to

491
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: have sex, we should be able to talk about a

492
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: lot of stuff.

493
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Speaker 2: And be comfortable with each other.

494
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Speaker 8: And I think the thing is a lot of people

495
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 8: get into relationships regardless of your sexuality. People jump into

496
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 8: relationships and they are not ready, they're not mature to them, like,

497
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 8: they bring a lot of other things.

498
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: To the relationship.

499
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Speaker 8: And I think that that also plays a part into

500
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Speaker 8: telling and not telling. People have been hurting the past

501
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 8: and all kinds of you know, things in the past

502
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 8: which made people put up these cards.

503
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Speaker 2: I mean, so I completely I understand, don't get me wrong.

504
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 8: I understand why people were like, well, what the fuck

505
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 8: you got to know about what I was in the past.

506
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: Well, she might not have wanted to tell them also, because,

507
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: like I said, she might not have felt comfortable around

508
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: this dude. This dude too, you know, people drop little

509
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: hints and shit like she might have felt like this

510
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: dude was not somebody she could safely tell, you know,

511
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 3: from the way, thank god we hadn't been ed, you know,

512
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: like there's a kind of a vibe there like, yeah,

513
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: you weren't the person to tell, Like if she would

514
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: have told you, who knows you might have got violent.

515
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: Maybe y'all had kissed already, who knows, you know? Also,

516
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: what do you know, Wendy, if you kiss me? Should

517
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: I tell you?

518
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: If we hold hands? For I suck your dick? Like?

519
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 4: What should I tell you?

520
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 10: Like?

521
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: What is the sex act? What you need to know?

522
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: It's just it's a very complicated thing. I think people

523
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: talk about it like it's black and white. I'm just

524
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: stressing that it's not.

525
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 2: And it is.

526
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 8: And I think when it comes to love and feelings

527
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 8: and emotions and things like that, for most people, even

528
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 8: a lot of people that are are are completely just

529
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 8: against the whole concept of this. A lot of those people,

530
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 8: when they get in their feelings male and females, they

531
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 8: delines a blurred and for a lot of people they

532
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 8: rail against this, but in the reality, nobody really knows

533
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 8: how they would deal with the situations until it's really

534
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 8: placed at their feet.

535
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing is, a guy like this, it's

536
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: probably better they didn't sleep with together, because you know,

537
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: from reading the article, I gathered he would have felt tricked,

538
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? If she would have slept

539
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: with him and then like a couple of days later

540
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: or a week later, even a monthly, just was like

541
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 3: I used to be a man.

542
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: He would have been like you tricked me.

543
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 3: From his perspective, it would have been a violation of

544
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: his trust and I and it was obvious that it

545
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: would have been a violation of his trust. So I,

546
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: you know, I do understand that on both sides. I

547
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: can see how it's murky and great. There's other issues

548
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: child you know, can we have a child? There's other

549
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: issues too that somebody shouldn't know before, you know, getting

550
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: serious with somebody, you know, because children might be something

551
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: they want to do organically.

552
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 7: You know.

553
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: Uh, this leads to complicated, different situations, costly different situation

554
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: involving childbirth and stuff like that.

555
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: Like, I get it.

556
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: You know the history of you know, when you go

557
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: when we go back to your house, when we go

558
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: back to visit your family, uh, you know, your high

559
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: school friends, it'll you know, things can be different. I

560
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: get that it's complex, and I guess I just equate

561
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: that with a little bit different than just sex, you

562
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, I feel like that's almost

563
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: more intimate than sex. So and I think other people

564
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: might think sex is more intimate than that, but I

565
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: don't know. I feel like knowing those other things is

566
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: something that you know, uh, is almost more.

567
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: Important that then if you're gonna fuck or not?

568
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah too.

569
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 8: And then and I think for a lot of people

570
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 8: it is reverse because they feel like sex is just

571
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 8: you and me versus you know, outside is you know,

572
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 8: like you say, once I get involved, I am also

573
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 8: a part of this world, whether or not I want

574
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 8: it to be or not, because.

575
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

576
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 8: So it's just one of those things where I have

577
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 8: to deal with people not being accepting and I like, so,

578
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 8: you know, when my thing, give me that option of saying,

579
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 8: this is something that I want to deal with because.

580
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: That part is a part of you.

581
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 8: Also, Yeah, that you can erase and regardless of how

582
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 8: much you try to hide those things, somebody somewhere knows

583
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 8: and it will come out because just the age of

584
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 8: the internet, things like that eventually will come out.

585
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: All right, So let's see what else it said, but

586
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: not taking away to do the takes with my choice?

587
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: Got that, Let's see.

588
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: I also understand the underline fear of the transgender people

589
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: have when revealing their identity the potential partners, and it's

590
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: unfortunate these people have to live in the potential threat

591
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: of violence. By doing so, we definitely have a long

592
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: way to go and educating and create and save spaces

593
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 3: for people to openly have those difficult conversations.

594
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: However, by the tone.

595
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: That the guy's emails, he may have been understanding had

596
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: he not felt lied to.

597
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

598
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: The tone is email did not sound like he would

599
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: have been understanding, sound like he would have just been like, Okay,

600
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: now we can break up because I'm you know, I'm glad,

601
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: Like I'm glad I found out because we could have

602
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: been intimate. That seemed like the way that he nothing

603
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: about that dude seemed very understanding. Fucking her sister, marry

604
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: her sister. None of that shit seemed like a person

605
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: that was very understanding to me. It also bringing pact

606
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: that he's asshole.

607
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

608
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: However, by the time of guy's emails, sound like would

609
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: have been understanding. Had he not been felt lied to,

610
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: they could have worked it out amicably. But anyways, those

611
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: are my thoughts. Loved to show killed the great work.

612
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 4: Thanks. Jawaan Marco says, I would say this.

613
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: I knew my answer definitively at the start of conversation,

614
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: but then Rod had to be all logical and reasonable.

615
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: The main issue is when Rob pointed out that sexual

616
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: encounters are not always between soul mats. There's a lot

617
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: of she owes him that sentiment, but does she? In

618
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: this case, it was three months and they hadn't done it,

619
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: So maybe this was supposed to be a relationship milestone.

620
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: But if the guy was able to so easily hook

621
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: up with her sister, that ain't the case. But what

622
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: I will say is that atually she needs to say something. Yeah, eventually,

623
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: I think I would lean. I would say, eventually you

624
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: do have to tell you someone that you want to

625
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: spend a significant portion of your life with. I don't

626
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: know what the cutoff is, but eventually the goal should

627
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: be to tell somebody something like that because it has

628
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: affected your life in such a significant way, and if

629
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: you're sharing lives, that person will have to deal with

630
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 3: this at some point. No matter how progressive you think

631
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: America is, this will be an issue somehow, at some point,

632
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: It's just the way the world is. Like Karen said,

633
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: it's almost like it's almost like if you had a

634
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: sex tape. At some point, no matter how cool, no

635
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: matter where you live, some kind of motherfucking shit might happen,

636
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: so you want to prepare the other person. Yep, once

637
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: it gets to the point where phelis are involved. The

638
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: issue is that at that point the news could be damaging.

639
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 3: The only other thing I could think of similar as

640
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: wanting to say waiting to say one is dying. He

641
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: doesn't have to know one for one night stand. But

642
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: when he's all in, now what keep up to good

643
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: work you too, That's why I listen.

644
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: Thanks Marco.

645
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: I know some people probably did not appreciate the discussion

646
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: and all this shit, but.

647
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: Fuck those people.

648
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: This is our show, I know so, and we talk

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: about whatever we want to, whenever we want to, however

650
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: we want to. So it's just the reason that our

651
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: show is separate from so many other shows, and I

652
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: think better is because we're willing to talk about this shit.

653
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: You know, we're going to talk about that. Other people won't,

654
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: you know.

655
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of shows have just been

656
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: like Noah or yes and then moved the fuck on,

657
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: and I would have been like, That's why I don't

658
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: fuck with your show as much as my own.

659
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: Yes, Prince Lauren.

660
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: Says, Ronda don't owe that guy. Shit, he was being

661
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: dishonest throughout the whole exchange.

662
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other part.

663
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: This dude was this still fucked their sister and made

664
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: her I don't even understand, y'all. Sometimes I have no

665
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: sympathy for this asshole. If she would have told him

666
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: herself he was, he still would have freaked out.

667
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: Yes, he would have. That's my personal belief.

668
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: He sounded freaked out to hear it from the sister,

669
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: but not just because the violation of trust, because he

670
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: had that sentence of like, ew, we almost had sex,

671
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: Like thank god.

672
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah for me, it had been more of a violation

673
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: of trust.

674
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 8: But yeah, he was more like, I'm almost gay. I

675
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 8: was almost found out I was gay.

676
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: Gosh almost was there?

677
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: You believe that my sister tells him, Uh, telling him

678
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: just gave him. The sister telling him gave just gave

679
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: him an easy out. It's not that it's not that

680
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: she used to be a man's the fact that she

681
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: lied to me. Get the fuck out of here. I

682
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: just curious. I'm just curious to win the decession. Stop

683
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: being part of the game. Why is it that this

684
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: is why the line has to be where the line

685
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: has to be drawn. I admit that I did sympathize

686
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: to him during the first part of the letter. I

687
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: think all of us kind of did like, wow that,

688
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: you know, that is kind of messed up, and you know,

689
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: I get it, you know why you could feel thrown off.

690
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: And then it just switches tongue where it's like and

691
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: then I fucked her sister, right, and we married and

692
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: fuck her family. Guys, Okay, I don't give damn we

693
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: having a baby. I told her cut a family off.

694
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, nigga, what who wrote this?

695
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: I changed?

696
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: I changed when I realized that he still would not

697
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: let this ship go. She lied to him, but they

698
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: didn't have sex. Why the hell is he still so mad?

699
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: Lastly fucked the sister. That can novin ass bitch, she's

700
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: the worst. Yeah that that that the sister to me

701
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: came off like the worst person in the whole story.

702
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: And it's funny because the family is actually trying to

703
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: reconcile and the sister is even like kind of leaning

704
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: towards it.

705
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: And now he's the one like, don't even go talking

706
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: talk to your.

707
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Family because he was wrong.

708
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like on.

709
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: Some level, what like that's the real question that maybe

710
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: that'd be the poe today.

711
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: But like, should this family not be a reconciled.

712
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Because of this this lie quote unquote that happened so

713
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: long ago, you know what I mean? Like, should should

714
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: just continue to be a rift in their family forever?

715
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: Because uh, you know, because of this one time three

716
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: months of everybody's life. Just I don't know, seems bigger

717
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: than just I was lied to, seems bigger than that.

718
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: Can a rapper have a career making albums after fifty

719
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: years of age? Yes, I don't see why not. No,

720
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: that's too old and uncool.

721
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 8: Thirteen percent of people say no, eighty seven percent people

722
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 8: have no problem with it. So people still love Wang

723
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 8: Mike and London says, speaking as someone much nearer the wait,

724
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 8: people still love. We just had a poe that said

725
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 8: people said Whutan needs to stop caring?

726
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? People's No, everybody said Bhutan

727
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: needs to stop in the poll.

728
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: This is science, just citing stuff that the facts that

729
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: you mess with a scientific formula.

730
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 8: Okay, but I'm a red bone sonya well on that,

731
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 8: you know, if that if that's gonna keep bad risond

732
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 8: doing from bad movies, keep themping.

733
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Mikea and London says, speaking of someone much nearer to

734
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: sixty than fifty, I could tell you that what was

735
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: I going to say?

736
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: I know it was something. It'll come back to me.

737
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: Prince Lawron says no.

738
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: So the problem with hip hop is that is that

739
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: it changes very quickly and artists are very slow to adapt.

740
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: That is the reason why n why artists are losing

741
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: right now. They are too busy trying to bring back

742
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety six instead of progressing with the times.

743
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: Most fans don't care about many artist's album by the

744
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: time they turn fifty.

745
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: What keeps them going are the live shows.

746
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: Most rappers do not take that aspect serious enough for

747
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: them to live off that. Also, hip hop is not

748
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: really meant to be performed in large stadiums. The music

749
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: will always sound exponentially better in your headphones than it

750
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: will at a live performance when I was younger and

751
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: with the rap concerts because of the energy, not the

752
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: quality of performance. When rappers star taking performance performing serious

753
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: and professionally, they can have careers like Bruce Deyne, Springsteen

754
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: and the Rolling Stones. Well, I feel like Prince Lawn

755
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: jay Z's gonna prove you.

756
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: Wrong, you know it. And like I said, and I

757
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, and to an extent, I disagree.

758
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 8: There are some people that love live shows, like there

759
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 8: are a lot of people that actually love the energyr

760
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 8: live shows.

761
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: You just sound like somebody don't like to go to concerts.

762
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: Well, also, I just think the cream of the crop

763
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: artists do take their live show serious. And when you

764
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: bring up the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen, you bring

765
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: up the cream of the crop live bands, you know

766
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, it wouldn't like you wouldn't be

767
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: saying that about you know, a rock and roll group

768
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: that's that we you know, it was like, well, these

769
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: people didn't take that shit serious. And you know what

770
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Like if Blond Melon, it doesn't matter that

771
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: they drop an album next month or do a live

772
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 3: show in the next month, You're not coming to that shit.

773
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: But if it was the Rolling Stones, and it's like, Okay,

774
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: I'll fucking come.

775
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: Out to that.

776
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 8: And one thing, especially being in a black community, Earth

777
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 8: Winning five them niggas been ton for like forty five

778
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 8: years and everywhere they go they constantly sell out, So

779
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 8: which is one of those things where it can.

780
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: Happen like well, but that's not rap. He's talking. He

781
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: didn't say black people, we said rap. I'm saying there's we.

782
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: Rap hasn't gotten old enough yet to us to truly know.

783
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: And some of the rappers have moved into other genre.

784
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, COOLJ is now act and Ice

785
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: teams acting, but ICEQB was acting.

786
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: But like, I wonder if a dude like say.

787
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: Kanye jay Z, if they'll be because they take their

788
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: live performances very very seriously they do, if they'll be

789
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: able to do that at fifty because I feel like

790
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't see why they wouldn't, you know, I guess

791
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: is my point. Even a dude like Tech nine the

792
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: Due could probably make money off his live performances till

793
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: he's seventy years old, the way that he's built his

794
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: own fan base.

795
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

796
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, they are steal rappers. They tour and make a

797
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 8: lot of a lot of money. They might not be

798
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 8: quote unquote like you said, the queen of the crop

799
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 8: like a jay Z and all that stuff, but a

800
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 8: lot of them do and make a lot of money

801
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 8: off of it.

802
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: I just wonder that's all we'll see.

803
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: I mean, those good news is that we just gotta

804
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: wait till they get fifty, right.

805
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: Won't be that long?

806
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: I sure won't do.

807
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Dave says, I'm waiting for these rappers to be featured

808
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: on the casino circuit. Also, did jay Z really just Drake?

809
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: Either way that what's Drake going to do? So Bell

810
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: Knox is not a porn star a great show as always.

811
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: I don't know why people are defensive with the star

812
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: part of porn star.

813
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: But okay, I don't really I only was using the

814
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 3: terminology and the article.

815
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: Guys.

816
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I get it.

817
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 3: Rapresent dresses is the poll for episode six sixty nine.

818
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Dudes in dresses, rapersent dresses is a sign of the

819
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: destruction of our modern day society fifteen not a big deal.

820
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: Twenty three percent or sixty two percent. It's weird, but that's.

821
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 4: About it, which is kind of where I'm at.

822
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: Red Bone Science says, there are so many reasons that

823
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: this world is feeling, but a dude wearing a dress

824
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: takes the cake. We all find to die not from violence,

825
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: not from disease, not from climate change, but from Tyler

826
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: Perry Martin, Eddie Murphy, and yeezus making all the black

827
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: men in the world where dresses and skinny jeans. The

828
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: white man wants to take all our black men in

829
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: to gate them with them so they can live in

830
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: the Greek Old Roman sodoma more times. So you gonna

831
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: do homie homie, Hey homae. But wait, didn't everyone wear

832
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: dresses robes in the BC except for the two that

833
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 3: wore leaves and even after the coming?

834
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

835
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: I do feel like it's just a big ass topic

836
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: people want to talk about. But it's really until the

837
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: day I see like eight niggas walking down the street

838
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: wearing dresses together, I refuse to acknowledge this as a

839
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: topic that I want to really discuss in depth.

840
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, y'all are just disasturbating, you know what I mean?

841
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all are talking about something that isn't even happening

842
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: because like one whack rapper wears a dress, young thug

843
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: warred dress. Oh now to drop a seven hour podcast

844
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: about this, Like I don't need to hear that shit.

845
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: Nobody else does't.

846
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: A dove says what these rappers do fashion wise is

847
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: their business, I guess, but I can promote, but I

848
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: can promise you my big ass won't be in a

849
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 3: fucking dress just like, I never wore my clothes backwards

850
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: doing the high of crisscross popularity. But I do feel

851
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: like k bad that if I see one of these

852
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: kids rocking the shirt, I'm always I'm all the way judged. Well,

853
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: I judge everybody judges all the time, you know what

854
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean. People see me and go look at this fact, dude,

855
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: and they judge me. People see a woman who could

856
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: barely walking hills and they judge her. People see chick

857
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: at the gym and the clothes too tight, they judge that. Like,

858
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about in your brain judging somebody. That's

859
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: gonna happen. That's natural and no one can fucking control

860
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: your brain. Okay, But as far as like coming up

861
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: and grabbing a young dude being like this ain't gonna

862
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: happen around me, I feel like that's too much.

863
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and most people won't do that.

864
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

865
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: So that's what I was saying, is too much. I

866
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: don't really think it's that big a deal, honestly, uh six'

867
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: seventy be silent Woman. The poe was was Jonie urst

868
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: Hall castration campaign a good ad.

869
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: Karen thought it was good. I thought it was bad.

870
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 11: Nah.

871
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: No, one's gonna vote for that or yes, it will

872
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: work for her.

873
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: In our thirty five percent of people said it will

874
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: work and sixty five percent of people said no.

875
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: Okay, we're talking about cutting off people's nuts.

876
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: You gotta know your audience.

877
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: We had comments on the Best on the Tippies twenty

878
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: fourteen Tippy nominations. Don't forget guys, you can always nominate

879
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: stuff for twenty fourteen. So if you are listening to

880
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Speaker 3: episodes this year and you're going, wow, this is really good.

881
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Speaker 3: I wish this moment was nominated for Tippy Best Argument,

882
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 3: Best Impression, all this stuff, you guys can always vote

883
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: at the thread that I just put in the chat.

884
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Episode six sixty two spades having Eline on

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Speaker 3: the Regular Show. It is also my hollered. This episode

886
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: is what em Scott said. Natasha Pete second it. This

887
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: episode had me in stitches, so there you go. She

888
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: seconds this nomination for the episode the year It's that Easy,

889
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Boss d Sport forty five Global African American. The episode

890
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: we actually just put out last night, me and Justin

891
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: just talking different stuff for sports.

892
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: Had a real good time.

893
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: Man, Cratic is right sing If you don't watch the

894
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: full spree cast version of this episode. You are missing

895
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Speaker 3: out yes on like an hour of Fantastic Rod justin

896
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: discussion about music, bet uncut and the plots and messages

897
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: of BTU and cut videos, including a full breakdown of

898
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Speaker 3: Jason's classic baby Mama drama.

899
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Speaker 2: Oh that's my jam if I said you got.

900
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: It, well, we played it during the show, yes, I

901
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: mean before the show. We during the pre show yesterday,

902
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: and we had a real good time. Man Like I

903
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: just might go back and get that audio and put

904
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: it out for something else, premium or something I don't know, like,

905
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: but it.

906
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 4: Was just fun, you know, like me andsin it for

907
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: people that tune in the ball z.

908
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: E know, we probably bullshit for thirty minutes to an

909
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: hour before the show anyway.

910
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: Yep, before you ever pushed recording.

911
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 8: So it is it is worth for those of you

912
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 8: premium and you get that email if you're at work

913
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 8: or anything like that, or you might do like.

914
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: Me at my job, I actually go in and I

915
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Speaker 2: actually take a little.

916
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 8: Napkin and come up my phone so people don't see

917
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 8: rot and just on like popping in the back, popping

918
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 8: on my phone, ask me what the hell you looking?

919
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 8: At when I'm listening, but all they go see is

920
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 8: the moving picture and as soon as I'm watching.

921
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of times too that whatever we

922
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: joke about before the show is upcoming running joke during

923
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: the show.

924
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, so some people like, what the fuck are they

925
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 8: talking about a lot of times it's because, like you say,

926
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 8: it's a running joke before you press start.

927
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: The only thing that made this better is that by

928
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: the end of the show there was a serious discussion

929
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: about the nuanced and racial identity politics. This was a

930
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: fantastic episode that really shows just how wide ranging and

931
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: crazy this show is. Yeah, we talked about Kobe Bryant

932
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: and how people basically demonize that man's comments over for

933
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: this weekend Mama. You know the segment we do on

934
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: Kobe every week, how they kind of demonize his comments about, uh,

935
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: the Miami heat and without really thinking. And it was

936
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, like, well, why don't we think

937
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: about it and talk about it from every you know,

938
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: different angles, Because I feel like people just want to

939
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: be so quick to tell somebody fuck you that they

940
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: forget that, you know, people aren't out here actively trying

941
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, I'm gonna say something to piss

942
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: off all the black people today, like and also it

943
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: was a out of context quote from the article that

944
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: have that that really like, two years after the events

945
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: that led to Trayvon Martin's death, he gets asked about it,

946
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, it's got to be at

947
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: least a ten to twelve page article, full pages.

948
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: That's the one quote.

949
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: And also the the way that it was framed in

950
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: the article that was pointing out what happened was like

951
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant not impressed by Miami heat show up, that's

952
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: not what happened, and that's what he said. He didn't

953
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: say I wasn't impressed, But it's the same thing to

954
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: happen with Keenan. Motherfucker's fall for it because you get

955
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: presented this information. You just read the title, read a quote,

956
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: and it's already put in your head to go the

957
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: fuck off. You go on Twitter a couple hours later

958
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: and Kobe's like, no, I thought that the motherfucker got

959
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: murdered and that George Liman got away with murder. How

960
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: about that? Some white do hit him up, like, well,

961
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: that's not what the fact show that says. I'm not

962
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: gonna discuss this with you, cuz you see it differently.

963
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: This is what I believe happened. I believe a young

964
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: black kid lost his fucking life over nothing. So how

965
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: is he the bad guy? Because that's the same conclusion

966
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: I came to, the exact same conclusion and probably the

967
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 3: same conclusion we all came to. And it didn't happen

968
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: because I'm black. It happened because I'm fucking a human being.

969
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: That can be factual, you know what I mean. And

970
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: I think his whole point was I wouldn't react, like

971
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: you can't expect me to put on a hoodie just

972
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: because I'm black.

973
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: That's fucking stupid.

974
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: Like if I was gonna like, I want to know

975
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: what happened, that's when I react to something. And then

976
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: there was a post on Instagram that he dropped two

977
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: days after the verdict that was like a quote from

978
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: Frederick Douglas, just you know where it's just crazy man

979
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: like people, it's that online raid shit Like I'm gonna

980
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: be mad, Like, well, what about the context of what

981
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: fuck that?

982
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: Okay, my bad dog be mad, just keep it away

983
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: from me.

984
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: We got voicemails, like I said, I'm man A doub

985
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: left was a voicemail. But that shit was six and

986
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: a half minutes, and it was about college football and

987
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: paying players and shit. We talked in a private but

988
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: the consent. I told him, I don't think we disagree

989
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: that much. I think anybody that would sit down and

990
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: talk to me about it would realize that I'm not

991
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: some crazy person who wants to abolish the nc double A.

992
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 4: Or some shit.

993
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: We're only talking about a handful of athletes literally, probably

994
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: less than.

995
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: Definitely less than one percent.

996
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: But I'm saying in real numbers, we're probably talking about every.

997
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: Single year, less than ten kids.

998
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: On the face of the earth that we're really talking

999
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: about in basketball, and probably in football less than fifty.

1000
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 9: True.

1001
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: That is causing the NCAA to have a moral crisis.

1002
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: It's the greed of needing those athletes to basically fund

1003
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 3: the entire rest of all sports and many other things

1004
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: that happen on campus. It's that that's leading to the

1005
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: more hypocrisy that has them in such dire straits. Now,

1006
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: you know, Northwestern School, the students have been allowed to unionize.

1007
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: You know, like this is going to I'm going to

1008
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: be right on this, regardless of what the fuck people say.

1009
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to be right. I'm not saying there's no

1010
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: benefit to student athletes. My whole, my whole, my entire

1011
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: solution was to actually let students be student athletes by

1012
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: taking out the athletes who should be earning money and

1013
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: letting them do go earn money.

1014
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 8: Yep, letting the student athletes literally be student athletes. But

1015
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 8: the thing about it is that if you literally let

1016
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 8: student athletes be student athletes, you affect money because nobody's

1017
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 8: gonna fucking watch the dude. That's gonna vent you to

1018
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 8: be a lawyer, be a doctor, be a teacher, be

1019
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 8: or whatever. They're not gonna watch you go out there

1020
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 8: and fuck around and be boring.

1021
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: That is that is the big question, right, What what

1022
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: are you really rooting for in college basketball and football?

1023
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: What are you rooting for Duke the university or are

1024
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: you rooting for Duke as long as you guys can

1025
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: have Jabari Parker and Hood Because if that's the case,

1026
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: then then everybody's complicit in this. Yes, And I don't

1027
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 3: think people want to examine that, you know, but yeah,

1028
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: you can find a way.

1029
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I don't have to know what you know?

1030
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't have to know exactly

1031
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: what how to pay these people to know that it's

1032
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: wrong for some of these kids to be taking advantage

1033
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: of this way. And it's not all the kids, just

1034
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: some of them, that's all I'm saying. Just there's a handful.

1035
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: If you actually get rid of those handful, I don't

1036
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: think there's even any argument that you can have against

1037
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: the NC double A.

1038
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 8: Really no, because you wouldn't have people paying the athletes

1039
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 8: and all that stuff, because nobody's going to give the

1040
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 8: money to the real student athletes.

1041
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1042
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 8: A double was like, well, right now, I mean some

1043
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 8: boosters take care of the money. They give it to them.

1044
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 4: I was like, one, it's not nearly enough money.

1045
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: But because honestly, if you give me forty thousand dollars

1046
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: when I know my skills are worth four million dollars

1047
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL, what's the fuck is forty thousand dollars

1048
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: to me? And kids are starting to realize this shit,

1049
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: by the way, which is leading the more NC DOUBLEA

1050
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: violations and schools getting caught in hindsight because kids don't

1051
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: give a fuck. I'm out of school. What are you

1052
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: gonna do to me? Yes, I got a card, I

1053
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. I'm playing for the Detroit Lions.

1054
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: Now have to do with USC go take those games.

1055
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: They got shit to do with me, don't. But also,

1056
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: you know, more importantly, that's illegal. The boosters aren't supposed

1057
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: to be doing that, you know what I mean, So

1058
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: to school like, it's still a flaw in the program

1059
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: if this is has to go on under the table,

1060
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because when you do get caught,

1061
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: and sometimes you do, is a fucking up the whole program.

1062
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: So you know, it's the fact that you even would

1063
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: have to have this is a calculated risk. What you

1064
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: could completely do away with it if you just were

1065
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 3: like the guys who need to get paid to play

1066
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: this sport should go somewhere else. It's not really our business.

1067
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: But anyway, there's a ton of different ways people try

1068
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: to solve it. I don't I don't have all the

1069
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: answers or any of that shit, but I just know

1070
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 3: that shit can be dirty sometimes's uh so.

1071
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 4: But that was his voicemail. Let's play other people's.

1072
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 5: Can this is Howard? Yeah, I'm so dying about that.

1073
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 5: You who about Blackbard? I had this stuff with me

1074
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 5: so that that is fucking true, like you can tell

1075
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: that sort of stuff about all those videos. For me,

1076
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: I can't go to the actual porn shop here in

1077
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 5: Atlanty to get DVD's because it is literally on I'll

1078
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: make no, I'm not right. This is It is on

1079
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: Martin Luther King Blaulevard between the KNC and Popeye's on

1080
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 5: the south side. I can't go there.

1081
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 12: I'll run it.

1082
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 5: So what I know it's about to happen, I just can't.

1083
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 5: That's why I go get those two hour, three hours,

1084
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 5: five hour DVDs at like, you know.

1085
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 9: The liquor stores, because the liquor stores.

1086
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 5: Around here, some will sell those cheap ass dvs, some

1087
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: like five dollars of pop or like twenty dollars or five,

1088
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 5: like they don't give a shit. So yeah, I feel

1089
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 5: you all that.

1090
00:49:59,800 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 12: CA.

1091
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: What was hour talking about the point shop?

1092
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 8: Remember before we was talking, I brought up the story

1093
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 8: about going to the porn shop, which you was talking

1094
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 8: about going to the point shop. He was talking about

1095
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 8: his experience going to a point shop.

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00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I don't know. Somehow he lost me. I

1097
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: just blanked out in the middle of that. It's like,

1098
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. Sorry, Alert we had someone

1099
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: else called less an eight and a half minute message.

1100
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: I'm not playing all of this while I'll play some

1101
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 3: of this, but just think. I just want you guys

1102
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: to hear the topic and just think to yourself. She

1103
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about this for eight and a half minutes.

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Speaker 11: All right, Good morning to the black guy who tips

1105
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 11: radio show. I am a new fan of your show.

1106
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 11: I was just introduced to your podcast about a couple

1107
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 11: of weeks ago. My cousin introduced me to the whole

1108
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 11: Stitcher app and I was low key where there are

1109
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 11: some great shows, and I stumbled upon your show and

1110
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 11: I took the time to listen to a couple of episodes,

1111
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 11: and I am recommending it to my friends. And I

1112
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 11: think you all bring up a lot of great categories

1113
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 11: and a lot of great concerns in our community overall,

1114
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 11: I mean, just overall, you all have a great framework

1115
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 11: on how you're presenting information to the public. So I

1116
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 11: just want to applaud you, want of appoll for your

1117
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 11: efforts and wanting to bring out some things in the community.

1118
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 11: And my reason for calling was mainly because of the

1119
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 11: first show. I'm not the first show, I'm sorry, the

1120
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 11: first show that really sparked my interest to call was

1121
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 11: the most recent one about the Black guys' addresses where

1122
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 11: you talked about multiple issues, but that one really stuck

1123
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 11: out with me because cousins of the epidemic that's been

1124
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 11: going on, not just between Young Thug or Kanye West

1125
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 11: or r Kelly, it's a whole issue. Like Rod was

1126
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 11: saying that men within the past ten or fifteen years

1127
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 11: on men dressing in women's clothing, and just to round

1128
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 11: it up, you don't have to respond, but my take

1129
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 11: on it is that for the past you know, number

1130
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 11: of years, ten fifteen years, even before that, we can

1131
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 11: go to the first person who is documented to do

1132
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 11: that with Flip Wilson when he did Gerald Bean with

1133
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 11: it here comes the Judge. Can even go a little

1134
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 11: bit further when they attempted to put Red Fox in

1135
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 11: a dress, and then it goes later on to Wesley

1136
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 11: Snipes and Tuang Fu and Bing Rains in the couple

1137
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 11: of movies that he's done. There's just right now, what

1138
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 11: I believe that happened in the past was they got

1139
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 11: us come pable with the fact that it's okay for

1140
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 11: especially our black men to get women's clothing like it's

1141
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 11: okay for them to portray themselves as being genderless, which

1142
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 11: I think is dangerous because they've set it up in

1143
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 11: the past ten or fifteen years for us to be

1144
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 11: okay with it to where now when you're seeing these

1145
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 11: dresses that men are wearing now, it's like, well, it's

1146
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 11: no big deal, and it's actually a very big deal.

1147
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 11: So I wanted to recommend a I wanted to recommend

1148
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 11: humans by the name of Irritated gen Irritated Genie has

1149
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 11: many many YouTube videos. He can explain it in a

1150
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 11: more elegant and a more visual way than I can

1151
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 11: on the effeminization of black males. So the effeminization in

1152
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 11: black males in summary to the best of my ability

1153
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 11: to explain it, is that there is a overall setup

1154
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 11: for our men who are strong, black, wonderful masculinity, you

1155
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 11: know type of men are being portrayed as feminine and

1156
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 11: it's safer to put them in this attire with the

1157
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 11: women's attire as dresses to make them seem docile to

1158
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 11: the public. So it's more than just putting the man

1159
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 11: in the dress. It's about putting the man in the

1160
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 11: dress and have a mind frame of being feminine. So

1161
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 11: even though we're seeing the result of it with all

1162
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 11: of these multiple quote unquote celebrities, because I don't I

1163
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 11: don't celebrate people who don't matter to me, but celebrities

1164
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 11: to the public when we're seeing them and when they're

1165
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 11: being emulated, I think that it's an overall plan to

1166
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 11: make our men seem docile, to have the woman seem

1167
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 11: more of a man than the man, and then it

1168
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 11: just changes the order on how our men and women

1169
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 11: are supposed to, you know, act with each other. So

1170
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 11: once short, it just shows a breakdown in the African

1171
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 11: American family because it's changing the gender perception. So now

1172
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Speaker 11: it's okay for our children to wear the dresses are

1173
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 11: for them to express themselves in the way that they

1174
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 11: want to be expressed, and it's just confusing. So now

1175
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 11: we're becoming a genderless society and a colorless society, which

1176
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 11: makes it safer for And.

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Speaker 4: That's why we don't play even voicemails over three minutes.

1178
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 3: So now everybody knows, just you know, in case somebody

1179
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: else gets a little bit of a hey, I think

1180
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: what I have to say is probably worth ten minutes

1181
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 3: of the show. It's not you guys know now for

1182
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: one hundred century, it's no voicemail. I can play like

1183
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: most people don't have more to say than like one minute, honestly,

1184
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 3: Like you can conduce most voicemails down to like one

1185
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: to two minutes period anyway, but we start getting the

1186
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: full five, six, eight minutes.

1187
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: Nobody want to hear it.

1188
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: Guys, it's no you know, and you're probably like, in

1189
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: real talk, she's probably listening to this right now, like

1190
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: I was going on for a long fucking time, you

1191
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like she probably was, Like I

1192
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 3: could have cleaned that up, made it a little more concise.

1193
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 3: Second of all, I don't believe that this is worth

1194
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: a discussion.

1195
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 4: I really don't.

1196
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: I honestly think niggas wearing dresses is completely overhyped.

1197
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 4: Niggas do not wear dresses. For one.

1198
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 3: You talk to me when it's not weird, you know

1199
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Talk to me when it's not weird, man,

1200
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: But when when When? When when you walk in the

1201
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: bar and seventeen dudes have on a fucking dress. I'm

1202
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 3: willing to have a discussion and be like, wow, that's

1203
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: a lot of niggas is wearing dresses.

1204
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 4: These days. I'm willing to talk about the fashion trend

1205
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 4: at that point.

1206
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: Until then, I don't give a fuck. Will Smith put

1207
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: on a dress in one movie. Nigga got so much

1208
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 3: more money than me, you know, Like I don't care,

1209
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: and he don't either. You know, I don't care if

1210
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 3: Tyler Perry's wearing a dress. Last time I went to church. Never,

1211
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: last time I went to church, there wasn't no black

1212
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: men in dresses in there. All the niggas had on suits. Like,

1213
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: nobody's doing this. It's not a trend. People are obsessed

1214
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: with this shit. It is crazy. Like I'm starting to

1215
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: think the people that object to it the hardest are

1216
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: the ones who actually have the obsession with it.

1217
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 4: I don't you know what I mean.

1218
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm definitely not dedicating any shows to these niggas wearing dresses. Bro,

1219
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, okay, but it's not an epidemic. I don't

1220
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: think it's a threat to black masculinity or feminization.

1221
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1222
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: I don't even know why that's a bad like supposedly

1223
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: a bad thing. I don't think any of the men

1224
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: that I know have this issue. I don't think any

1225
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: of the women I know have this issue where like

1226
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: they need to be hyper masculine. Now, I don't feel

1227
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: like it's a conspiracy. And a lot of times these

1228
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: dudes are all these five percenter theories about masculinization and

1229
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: mid feminization of men Black men and women are just

1230
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: over compensating for the fact that niggas need to stick

1231
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: around and raise their kids.

1232
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: You stick around and raise your kids in the skirt.

1233
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, just stick around.

1234
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be a lot happier in the Black

1235
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: community if niggas wore skirts but raise their kids.

1236
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: How about that?

1237
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: With all the goddamn skirts you want then.

1238
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, YouTube that shit. How about that? Put on the

1239
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: skirt and raise your fucking son. I will actually be

1240
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: okay with that.

1241
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 8: I buy you right now, we have niggas in pants

1242
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 8: and they leaving their kids to feel for themselves.

1243
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 4: Maybe that's just me sh shit.

1244
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 8: Father's Day, I know, I know some some stunned skirts

1245
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 8: I can buy you, yeah, for Father's Day, but like, ooh,

1246
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 8: that is hit nail and it is dope. Here you go, son,

1247
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 8: keep all paying that child to put in care of

1248
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 8: your kids.

1249
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day, Yeah, no, no offense to whatever the

1250
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: god rational Genie or irritated Gene.

1251
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: I thought there was a woman.

1252
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: No she no, she said to go listen to Oh okay.

1253
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: Soone they irritated Genie on Twitter, like on YouTube. No

1254
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: offense to him. I haven't heard him, not not thising

1255
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: that dude or anything. I'm not even trying to get

1256
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: into the YouTube whole shit, because I know those dudes

1257
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: have like YouTube beats with each other and all this.

1258
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, and and and I think for me, and this

1259
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 8: is just my personal opinion. I know that she is

1260
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 8: a new listener, but it's just one of those things where.

1261
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: We don't take it that seriously.

1262
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 7: You know.

1263
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 8: It's one of those things where we kind of talk

1264
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 8: about it and move on. There are all topics that

1265
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 8: we do take seriously, but the topic like this, we're

1266
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 8: not going to have a running and longgoing discussion about it.

1267
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it just ain't that important.

1268
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: Sorry, but definitely not eight minutes thirty second is important.

1269
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 9: Hello, Rod care this is a statement, Richard, Try to man.

1270
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 9: I guess I thought it's been a little while since

1271
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 9: you heard.

1272
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 5: From the uh.

1273
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 9: I was kitchen up, oh shittows all right? Show about

1274
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 9: the tippings and everything like that. Aymen, Uh, I gotta

1275
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 9: give a lot of respect to old Leonard Brothers. Man,

1276
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 9: I tell you I didn't think he came from out

1277
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 9: of nowhere, man, and uh just just kind of shut

1278
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 9: up the competition down, if you know.

1279
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 11: What I mean.

1280
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 12: But I ain't.

1281
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 9: Man, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what Leonard. Okay,

1282
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 9: listen to listen to me. Let's know, Steve Richards, Hey,

1283
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 9: I'm coming for each bood O, Kate, I'm coming for

1284
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 9: you all right down now next year, it's not gonna

1285
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 9: leave this okay. Now, I'm gonna thank all my supporters

1286
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 9: voting for me. Okay, now now I appreciate each and

1287
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 9: every last one of Yet for those who didn't vote

1288
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 9: for me, you know, but well I'm gonna.

1289
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 12: Be better for you.

1290
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 9: Okay. I guess I got a little a little uh think,

1291
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 9: a few days to think about something like that, and uh,

1292
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 9: I'll tell them to reevaluate my situation.

1293
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 12: And I'm gonna come.

1294
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 9: Back stronger this year, and uh, you know I'm gonna

1295
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 9: put my a game on it. You understand what the plan? Hey, guys, Uh,

1296
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 9: thank you for everything. And uh, you guys are the

1297
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 9: greatest hard chants out there, man, I tell you. I

1298
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 9: like you guys hitters than Chris harden with for Barker

1299
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 9: or I had a Caroller or any any of those guys. Hey,

1300
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 9: you guys have a good one.

1301
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: Thank you all right, well, thank you so much. Good

1302
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 3: luck in the Timm's next year.

1303
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 8: Yes, you come up to your spot. People already threatening

1304
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 8: and ready for next year.

1305
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: They ain't playing around.

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Speaker 8: Lord, I hate to see what next year campaign is.

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01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 8: We might have confetti and everything, having parade, won't know.

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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 4: Some podcasters didn't take it serious enough, you know.

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01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then you had some they were pushing in

1310
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 8: promoting and vote and voting every day for themselves.

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Speaker 2: Oh y'all, don't blame it. Do what you gotta do

1312
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: to win.

1313
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: They were not fucking around.

1314
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Speaker 3: It's like I got a work computer, a home computer,

1315
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: a laptop, a phone.

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01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: A tablet.

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Speaker 8: Shit, I'm voting everywhere my mama and them gonna vote

1318
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 8: to They don't even know shit about it.

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Speaker 2: Give me your log again, I vote for you.

1320
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: Make their homepage the black dot com.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Ry, Hey Karen, this is Dianna.

1322
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 5: I wanted to give you guys.

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01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 10: Some feed back because this Saturday and it's a steed

1324
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 10: that show. So anyway, I wanted to talk specifically about

1325
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 10: the information right that you were talking about about black

1326
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 10: women and us having a higher rate of being murdered,

1327
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 10: and more specifically what Karen was saying about the reasons

1328
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 10: that black women don't reach out for resources and you know,

1329
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 10: police and things like that. And it really touched on

1330
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 10: with me because just this week I got some information

1331
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 10: about a relative of mine.

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01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 12: Who is a total He's just a total asshole. I

1333
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 12: really wish we.

1334
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 10: Could just annex him from the family. But any who,

1335
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 10: he's he's just not he's just a he's a cheater,

1336
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 10: he's you verbally abused to his wife.

1337
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 12: He's just the worst.

1338
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 10: But anyway, there was a situation this week where he

1339
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 10: threatened his wife and he threatened her mother, and she

1340
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 10: didn't call the police, and I was, you know, I

1341
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 10: couldn't figure out why, and I'm talking to her and

1342
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 10: I'm like, why would you not call the police on him?

1343
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 10: And it turns out last year there was a situation

1344
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 10: where she called the police and they came out and

1345
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 10: they have they have a young son, and the police

1346
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 10: officer said to her, She asked him, Hey, is that

1347
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 10: your son over there? And so she said yeah, and

1348
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 10: the police officer actually told her that she should be

1349
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 10: grateful that he is there in the home with their son,

1350
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 10: because a lot of black men aren't even in the

1351
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 10: home and she should be grateful for that, which was

1352
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 10: just so sickening to hear. And so Carolyn you mentioned that,

1353
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 10: I'm like, damn, like that is you know, that is

1354
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 10: just such a great point about how you know there

1355
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 10: we don't reach out because of things like that. So

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01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 10: I just wanted to comment on that. Like I said,

1357
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 10: that really touched home from me this week. So as always,

1358
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 10: a great show, Love you guys and have a great day.

1359
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 10: Shout out to Black Active Nation.

1360
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Speaker 2: Like you THEES.

1361
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 8: And to comment on what she was saying. The officer

1362
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 8: came because she called over probably what was the domestic

1363
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 8: violence this issue, And yet you're gonna look at this

1364
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 8: person who's calling you, because this nigga showing his ass,

1365
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 8: and you're gonna say you need to be thankful that

1366
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 8: he's here.

1367
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1368
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 8: Like this is how I feel at the end of

1369
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 8: the day, when it comes down to it, the most

1370
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 8: valuable man, le female, or what a transgident transaction, whoever

1371
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 8: you are as a human being. The thing that's the

1372
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 8: most valuable to anybody, regardless of the status of regardless

1373
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 8: of how much money you make, is your piece of mind.

1374
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 8: It is priceless. It is something that you cannot put

1375
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 8: a fucking dollar sign on. And it's just one of

1376
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 8: those things where being by yourself with your child, working

1377
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 8: minimum wage and struggling and having a piece of mind,

1378
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 8: it's more valuable than having an ain't shit man in

1379
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 8: your house, regardless of what color you are, or partner

1380
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 8: or whoever your domestic partner is, regardless of having them

1381
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 8: in the house, fucking stress sending you the fuck out,

1382
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 8: and you do not have a piece of mind, And

1383
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 8: it's one of those things where the world is so

1384
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 8: fucked up. Your home needs to be your sanctuary for

1385
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 8: you at all means, as far as I'm concerned, because

1386
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 8: my thing is this. You deal with stress at work,

1387
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 8: you deal with traffic, you deal with all these things

1388
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 8: around you. Your home is the only place of sanctuary.

1389
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 8: And your home is one of the few places that

1390
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 8: you have control and you can dictate what the fuck

1391
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 8: happens in your house, who you will put up with,

1392
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 8: who you want don't put up with. If you got

1393
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 8: to pick up the phone, if you gotta answer the email.

1394
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 8: You can do this in your house. That's one thing

1395
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 8: I like about being grown, because here at my house,

1396
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 8: I'm the queen and I can tell you if you

1397
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 8: can and cannot come in here.

1398
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: You know, my thing is this at my home.

1399
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 8: I don't get paid put like this, even when it

1400
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 8: comes into simple things like cleaning up and things like that,

1401
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 8: I have the option to do that. Why because I'm

1402
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 8: not getting paid to do the shit. So if I

1403
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 8: don't want to do I don't have to do it.

1404
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 8: And it's just one of those things. But I'm not

1405
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 8: putting up with bullshit in my home period.

1406
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: You're not stressing me out.

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Speaker 8: And on top of that, also people fail to realize,

1408
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 8: especially women and men that are in situations of domestic

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01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 8: balance where you have children. You do not realize how

1410
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 8: many fuck the adults are walking around right now, and

1411
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 8: how many men beat their girlfriends because they watch they

1412
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 8: daddy beat they beat they mama. How many girls are

1413
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 8: in domestic relationships because they feel like this is how

1414
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 8: he's you supposed to love me, even though you act

1415
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 8: like children are stupid and children and I even children

1416
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 8: are don't they're not and.

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: They pick up on the context clues.

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 8: Of what love is based on what you show them,

1419
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 8: regardless if you're together or not. And the thing is

1420
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 8: that people use children as an excuse, in my opinion,

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 8: to have these terrible relationships around their children. Children know

1422
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 8: when their parents don't love each other. The children know

1423
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 8: when their parents don't get along. Children pick up with

1424
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 8: when they're fussing, when they're fighting, when they're tension, and

1425
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 8: you don't have to say a word. Children are not

1426
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 8: stupid and they're not ignorant children. Rather, you be in

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 8: two separate households and everybody has a peace of mindseholds,

1428
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 8: I mean households, then everybody be in two different households

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01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 8: and mama and daddy get along. Then for y'all to

1430
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 8: be together fussing and fighting and punching and fighting each

1431
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 8: other all the time, that's not that's not healthy for

1432
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 8: anybody involved.

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 3: I mean the other thing too, is when people don't

1435
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: see law, the law as like a resource that you

1436
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: can rely upon, then you know, the odds of them

1437
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: calling and getting involved, getting along involved as much lower.

1438
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 4: When people put.

1439
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: On the stigma that you're lucky to even have a man,

1440
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, in the community, where people like advise people

1441
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 3: like just keep the abuse, because honestly, you're lucky to

1442
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: have a man.

1443
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 4: It's hard to get a man in these streets.

1444
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: That's bad.

1445
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 4: Lower in the bar like that.

1446
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, and and and my thing is this, and and

1447
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 8: and and and I know we got to move on,

1448
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 8: but this is something I want to say.

1449
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: I was a child, I was a really really.

1450
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 8: Small child, and this was before I knew and could

1451
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 8: understand domestic violence. I would literally hear my aunts would

1452
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 8: sit and I'll remember them having conversations literally when I

1453
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 8: was a child about a husband's beating on them, boyfriend's

1454
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 8: beating on them. I remember my aunt was telling me

1455
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 8: one time that her and all members a boyfriend and

1456
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 8: ex husband was fighting and he ended.

1457
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 2: Up pushing off the porch and breaking her. I remember

1458
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,959
Speaker 2: them talking about one of my aunts.

1459
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 8: Her and her husband was together and he ended up

1460
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 8: beating her so bad that the only way you could,

1461
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 8: you know, recognize her was by her eyes because he

1462
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 8: had bashed her face in so bad. I remember them,

1463
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 8: you know, talking about, you know, holding children and getting

1464
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 8: beat while having childrens in their hands, breaking arms and

1465
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 8: all this shit. And this is when I was a

1466
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 8: small child, and so this is why I tell you

1467
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 8: that children listening and children are aware. And it was

1468
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 8: one of those things where I don't even realize that

1469
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 8: they knew I was sitting around listening, but I was there,

1470
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 8: and it was one of those things where at that

1471
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 8: early age, I was like, I don't ever want a

1472
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 8: man to hit me. I mean I said this to myself.

1473
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 8: I was like, and when I get in a relationship,

1474
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 8: I don't ever want a man to hit me. And

1475
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 8: a lot of them said the same things that a

1476
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,480
Speaker 8: lot of women say when they are in domestic relationships.

1477
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 8: That first time he said he was sorry, I forgave him.

1478
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 8: That second time it went a little further. Or it

1479
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 8: first started with views and then it got physical. It

1480
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 8: first started with pushing and then it with the beating

1481
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 8: or or you know. So, so it's something that that

1482
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 8: they say it gradually happened over time, and it's one

1483
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 8: of those things. And also in our community, it's something

1484
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 8: else that really really really pisces me off. And another

1485
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 8: reason why a lot of women don't leave, because when

1486
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 8: it comes to leaving an abusive relationship, it's a lot

1487
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 8: of shame. It's almost the same shame you get in

1488
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 8: rape like it is your fault?

1489
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: Why didn't you leave?

1490
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 7: Ye?

1491
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: As a woman, why couldn't you make this work? Because

1492
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: it's the woman's woman's job to make it work.

1493
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 8: Yes, and it's one of those things where people turn

1494
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 8: around in society.

1495
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: Well why didn't you leave?

1496
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 8: And and and and and you should have left for

1497
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 8: this is why I don't help.

1498
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: Well fuck when she does go.

1499
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 8: Out to help, there's no sympathy and empathy in that

1500
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 8: situation for her, for her to go and get help.

1501
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 8: But then you look at her crazy when she sits

1502
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 8: in the situation. And a lot of times when people

1503
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,480
Speaker 8: fail to realize when it comes to situation did these situations?

1504
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 8: The problem is it's about control, period. This person is

1505
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 8: controlling the other person, regardless if it's a male control

1506
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 8: on the female or a female control on the male.

1507
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 2: It's about control.

1508
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 8: You having complete and ultimate control over this other human being,

1509
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 8: and not only over them, over their children, over their household.

1510
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 8: You isolate them from their family, you isalate them from

1511
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 8: their friends, you make them feel alone. These are tactics people,

1512
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 8: And the thing about it is that these things don't

1513
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 8: happen overnight. Like right, you say you're in a relationship

1514
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 8: for years and you wake up one day and realize,

1515
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 8: what shit I've been with this person ten fifteen, twenty years.

1516
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 8: We got these kids, and you're fucking abusing me. People

1517
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 8: don't come to this conclusion overnight. And it's one of

1518
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 8: those things where until that person realize that they have

1519
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 8: to leave, sometimes there's nothing you can do. And that's

1520
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 8: what's painful as somebody that can see somebody in an abusive relationship,

1521
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 8: and you can encourage somebody all you want, but until

1522
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 8: they're ready to leave, a lot of people just stay

1523
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 8: because they feel like this is all I have because

1524
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 8: society perpetuates that.

1525
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 3: In chat room, Professor saying she remember kids, women and

1526
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: kids staying with her for to family for days. The

1527
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: women have bruises and casts, she pointed to as it,

1528
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 3: saying same way she learned avoid unhealthy relationships listening to

1529
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 3: our aunts. Like so it's definitely a community type problem.

1530
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: And I'll go one step further, man, and you know,

1531
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 3: probably gonna end up losing listeners over this. But put

1532
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: these niggas in some dresses. Bro, It's time we got

1533
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 3: to feminize the shit out.

1534
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 4: Of these dudes. Some of these dudes need some femininization.

1535
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: Apparently they need to learn how to deal with shit,

1536
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 3: not so fucking hyper masculine with their beating, putting their

1537
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 3: hands on people. Maybe they can stand to have some empathy,

1538
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 3: learn to use their words, be a little bit softer.

1539
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: Maybe the solution isn't the hyper masculinity of black men

1540
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: and the homophobia of black men.

1541
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 4: Maybe part of.

1542
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: Our culture needs to be feminized, and dudes need to

1543
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: put on some goddamn dresses and learn that the whole

1544
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 3: world isn't about testing your manhood all the time.

1545
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 8: No, and and and the thing is that when when

1546
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 8: it comes down to it, it's not. And and the

1547
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 8: funny part about it is that when you deal with it,

1548
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 8: the woman gets all the backlash. But it's a lot

1549
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 8: of men that are listening to my voice right now.

1550
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 8: They got brothers, they got uncles, they got friends and

1551
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 8: buddies that do this shit. And some of them because

1552
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 8: at times men don't talk about this, and sometimes they know,

1553
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 8: and it's about like that rape thing. You don't correct them,

1554
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 8: You let this shit slide, versus say, look, you ain't

1555
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 8: got to put your hands on her. Look you ain't

1556
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 8: got to yell at her. Her hearing is perfect. She

1557
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 8: can under hear, she can hear you, and she can

1558
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 8: comprehend you. You don't have to beat her. You don't

1559
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 8: have to smack her, you don't have to abuse her.

1560
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 8: And if you with somebody that you feel like this

1561
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 8: is the only way I can control you, you don't

1562
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 8: need to beat them. You know what's funny, right because

1563
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 8: unlike the rape thing, I don't know anybody that's ever.

1564
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 4: Bragged or even talked about hitting a woman.

1565
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 3: I know a bunch of dudes that do the well,

1566
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 3: you know, if she's coming at you with a knife

1567
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: type whenever there's like a news article or something. But

1568
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 3: I really don't know. Like, I've known dudes who are

1569
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 3: proud to cheat. I've known dudes who were proud to

1570
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: you know, do a bunch of shit that I think

1571
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: is negative. But I've never known dudes that were actually

1572
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 3: proud to not raise their kids and told people or

1573
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 3: put their hands on a woman and told people.

1574
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 4: Now, it could just be my.

1575
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,839
Speaker 3: Limited circle of friends and I just but in general,

1576
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 3: I just don't know these dudes, you know what I mean.

1577
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 3: And I'm saying you would think that, well, why would

1578
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 3: I know the dudes at cheating shit?

1579
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Why would.

1580
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: I know that There's gotta be a ton of dudes

1581
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 3: that don't raise their kids. But they know that they're

1582
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: wrong too, and they know they will get checked, so

1583
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: they don't bring it up on the possibility that somebody

1584
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: will say something like this is like, it's funny because

1585
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: this might be one of those things where it's cultural.

1586
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: But it's cultural because people aren't talking about it, not

1587
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: because they are, you see.

1588
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. Like some things I think, like I think.

1589
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: The rape thing in high school and especially with sports

1590
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 3: teams is cultural because those dudes do talk about it

1591
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 3: and they do think it's okay.

1592
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 8: That's true, and it's the thing that somebody has to

1593
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 8: accept it because it goes on.

1594
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: And yeah, for the record, but you okay, you say

1595
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 3: accept it. I'm saying it's like this, right, if you

1596
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: came home every day and you smack me in my face,

1597
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell nobody about this shit, probably because

1598
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: I'm ashamed. You ain't gonna walk out the house and

1599
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: be like I smack right in his face every day either. Yeah,

1600
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 3: So is it acceptable or is it that we aren't

1601
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 3: talking about it? On both sides, you have victims that

1602
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 3: don't want to talk about it unless they're talking to

1603
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: other victims, or you have people that or you have

1604
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 3: people that are abusers, they damn sure ain't gonna talk

1605
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 3: about It's illegal, and motherfuckers are not sign that shit.

1606
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 3: So I don't even think it's like black men sitting

1607
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: around high five in each other like.

1608
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta beat your woman.

1609
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: I really, I mean if in some cases it might be,

1610
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: but I very rarely think that dudes are sitting around

1611
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: like co signing each other on that behavior. I think

1612
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: motherfuckers know who they can say that shit to him

1613
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: and who they can't. Yes, and in general they know

1614
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: that you can't walk around in public like I beat

1615
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 3: my woman.

1616
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 4: That's what's up.

1617
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: That's true. And also I think too, it.

1618
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 8: Would be listen, I'm not crazy, it would be in

1619
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 8: rap songs. It would be in our movies if it

1620
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 8: was this culture acceptable.

1621
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: Because we got drug dealing in movies, We got all

1622
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 3: this shit that we think is kind of cool, pimping,

1623
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 3: We have shit that is fucked up that we really

1624
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 3: do promote as the bee's knees.

1625
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: This is not one of them. And there's a reason

1626
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 4: for that.

1627
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers know it's fucked up, you know what I mean,

1628
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 3: it's the motherfuckers are doing it, but they know it's

1629
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: fucked up. Yes, And this is one of those things

1630
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 3: that I know is because y'all are women, and you know,

1631
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 3: women are like you know, but this is one of

1632
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 3: those things that I hate to be this way.

1633
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 8: But y'all don't know because y'all not a dude. I

1634
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 8: talk to these I talk to dudes. I go in

1635
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 8: the locker room.

1636
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: There's certain things y'all aren't privy to that I'm like, yeah,

1637
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: this happens, y'all just aren't privy to it. This is

1638
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: one of those things I've never seen, and I'm willing

1639
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: to bet most dudes will say they've never seen like

1640
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 3: a group of dudes that were actively like, we beating

1641
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 3: our women.

1642
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 4: Let's talk about it. I really don't think it's a

1643
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 4: thing like that.

1644
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: I really think it's motherfuckers that do this shit, and

1645
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 3: they don't talk about it. And that's why it keeps

1646
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 3: going on, because if motherfucker's knew, okay, they would say something,

1647
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But even still, there is

1648
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 3: another reason people don't talk about it is because you're

1649
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: powerless to really do anything, because how many of these

1650
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 3: relationships someone finds out. You're like, well, go to the cops.

1651
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: Let's you know, maybe I can help you, and it's

1652
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 3: like no, no, no, no, I love them.

1653
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1654
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 4: And also and this is I'm not, by the way,

1655
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 4: not blaming the victim.

1656
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's more complicated than people think on

1657
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: the outside.

1658
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 4: Yes, and you try to intervene, it's like, Nope, it's

1659
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 4: not gonna work.

1660
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1661
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 8: And also this also, and let me know if I'm wrong,

1662
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 8: but this is why a lot of the law enforcements say,

1663
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 8: if you come to us, we're gonna press the charges.

1664
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 8: Like that's another reason we're not gonna allow you to

1665
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 8: drop it, because we don't want to have to come

1666
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 8: back in three weeks and you're dead, or we don't

1667
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 8: have to come back next week, or we've already been

1668
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 8: to this on fifteen times and if you come to

1669
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 8: us after I don't know if it's the first time

1670
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 8: or if it's something repetitive. This the state says, we're

1671
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 8: going to fuck what you say. We're gonna press charges against.

1672
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: And regardless, we talked about this on the show yesterday,

1673
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 3: Our Balls Deep.

1674
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 4: It was kind of a joke, but kind of serious.

1675
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 3: Ray Rice is engaged to the woman that he knocked

1676
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: the fuck out on camera a couple of months ago

1677
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: or a month ago maybe right, Me and Justin both said, well,

1678
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: if you're smart, he was like, she'll get married so

1679
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 3: that she can get half his shit. She'll like upgrade

1680
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 3: herself in the marriage so that if he does it,

1681
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 3: get divorced and she can get half his stuff. And

1682
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 3: I said, if he's smart, he'll get married so she

1683
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: can't testify against him for domestic views.

1684
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 4: Guess what happened today? They got married.

1685
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just this is just a joke on

1686
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 3: the show yesterday they got married for real and real like.

1687
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 12: This.

1688
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying.

1689
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 3: Ray Rice didn't get high fives from his friends for

1690
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 3: punching that girl. Everybody goes, this is despicable. But I

1691
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: can't help you, know what I mean. This is an

1692
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 3: internal thing that these people need to work on themselves.

1693
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 3: I can't personally make them not do this to each other.

1694
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 3: I can't make this relationship go. The police can't even

1695
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 3: stop it. And I think that's why people don't get involved,

1696
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: and that's why people don't talk about it, because at

1697
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 3: the end of the.

1698
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 4: Day, only those two folks can.

1699
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: Actually stop it true, you know, and nobody's co signing

1700
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 3: either behavior. Nobody is well, I shouldn't say that nobody's

1701
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 3: co signing dudes beating women. I put it that way,

1702
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: like as far as a like, if you brought this

1703
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 3: up in a group of guys, it's real dicey that

1704
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 3: someone would actually be on your side that you can

1705
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 3: beat your woman.

1706
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: And it's even more dicey that like they won't be vehemently.

1707
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 3: Opposed, you know what I'm saying, Like, it won't just

1708
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: be one of those things where it's like, oh, you

1709
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: beat your woman, that's not cool, and they'll walk away.

1710
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 3: They might go, oh, you beat your woman, I'm going

1711
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 3: to fuck you up. Yeah, it's not like it's that controversial.

1712
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't think dudes with risk bringing this up because

1713
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 3: this isn't like like like it's not it's not one

1714
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 3: of those things where dudes high five on this.

1715
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, This just isn't one of

1716
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 4: those things. I don't know.

1717
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: I know women might not understand, but I'm telling you,

1718
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 3: as a man, every man sees a dude is less

1719
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 3: when he talks about I beat my woman or I

1720
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, if they said, uh, I touch kids like

1721
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: just there's too many dudes that are like, I will

1722
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 3: fuck you up, like just for even bringing that up,

1723
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: like violently react to that, you know, cause who knows

1724
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: what their past is with that. Maybe so like mama

1725
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 3: get beat, maybe their sisters being beat by dude. But

1726
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: it's not it's very risky to bring up some shit

1727
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 3: is not risky if I go to like, I'll go

1728
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 3: to the why and make a joke like yeah, you know,

1729
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 3: I still get bitches or something, and niggas be like, nigga,

1730
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 3: you've been married.

1731
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,919
Speaker 4: A whole life. What are you talking about?

1732
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 3: But like that joke is way more acceptable than yeah,

1733
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: I beat my wife.

1734
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 4: Niggas will be like, are you serious right now? Like nah, nah,

1735
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 4: I was just joking.

1736
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: Do I need a contact her to be sure.

1737
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 4: She I ain't?

1738
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 7: Nah?

1739
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 4: Do I need to fuck you up? Do I need

1740
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 4: to call the police? You know what I mean? Cheating

1741
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 4: is something different like you can make uh.

1742
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 3: I know dudes who really cheat that bring it up

1743
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 3: in a group of strangers and nobody gives a fuck.

1744
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 3: That to me, that more of a co sign, right, Okay,

1745
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 3: if you bring up I hit my wife today.

1746
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be okay. It's not I know people

1747
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 4: think less of.

1748
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: Guys, and I know, especially in this new like culture

1749
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: on the internet where everything dudes do is terrible and

1750
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 3: all this shit. I'm telling you, this is one of

1751
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 3: those things you don't bring up around a bunch of dudes.

1752
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: It won't happen. I've been around two many men in

1753
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 3: my entire fucking life. It would have happened by now,

1754
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Maybe I'll go out next

1755
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: week and it'll happen and everybody will secretly, everybody will

1756
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: high five around me and start dancing and share stories,

1757
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 3: and I'll come on the show and go I'm wrong.

1758
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: I was wrong, But I promise.

1759
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: You this first time.

1760
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, my entire life, you know how much time I

1761
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 3: spend around dudes playing ball in situations where there are

1762
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 3: no women at all, and that this has never come

1763
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: up as a it's okay topic. It's not okay. I

1764
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: really think it's the silence that's causing people to live

1765
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 3: in these cycles forever.

1766
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 4: Both.

1767
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 3: It's people that like, at the end of the day,

1768
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 3: they're so fucked up, They're like, I still don't want

1769
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 3: to report them because I do have a man now,

1770
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 3: so society judges me for not having one, so at

1771
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: least I got one and two. The women around me

1772
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: are just sharing their stories. They're not even saying like, yeah, girl,

1773
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: you need to leave them because of this. It's well, shit,

1774
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 3: it happened to me too, yeah, or even worse, even worse, Well,

1775
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: it's not happening to me, but you need to deal

1776
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 3: with it because you should be happy, you know. It's

1777
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: so I don't know, I think it's more complicated than uh,

1778
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't even know how we.

1779
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: Got on this.

1780
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 4: How do we get on this?

1781
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 9: Oh?

1782
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lady who called thanks Leanna, I was like, I.

1783
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: Know, you started a good conversation over here.

1784
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry about that, but yeah, I do think that,

1785
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: you know, it's the silence that's that's causing it to grow,

1786
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 3: not or keep stay alive.

1787
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 4: It's not yeah, unlike rape. Shit.

1788
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: I think motherfuckers will sit around in certain environments like

1789
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 3: football team and shit like that and share stories and

1790
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 3: think that it's okay because no dude had the balls

1791
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 3: to step up and be like, hey, actually, guys, that's disgusting.

1792
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 4: It as a crime, and y'all should all go to prison, you.

1793
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Because that's the environment where people

1794
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 3: are scared because it's like, well, this team, it's about

1795
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 3: team first and all this shit as opposed to this shit.

1796
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: I ain't never been in a group of people talking

1797
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 3: about some Yeah, man, so I punched in a motherfucking face,

1798
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: and you know, it's all right, you gotta do that sometimes,

1799
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 3: Like nah, bro, that's that's not you know what I mean.

1800
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 3: The odds of me, there's a higher odds that I

1801
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 3: meet a dude like Darren Sharper who thinks it's okay

1802
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: to put women to sleep and fuck on. Then I

1803
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 3: meet a dude who thinks it's okay to punch women

1804
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 3: in the face until talk about it in public.

1805
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1806
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: I rape, but I won't beat them.

1807
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 4: Right, I ain't. No, I said i'd be raping bitches.

1808
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: I didn't say nothing about him.

1809
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: They gotta stay pretty. I ain't messing up their faces.

1810
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll knock an ass out with some drugs, but

1811
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 3: not my fist.

1812
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 4: Come on, now, I'm not savage eyes.

1813
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 3: All right, let's read these see mail, get out there,

1814
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 3: shade and right saying hey, Karen and Rod really enjoyed

1815
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 3: that very poor Oh wait, I'm sorry the title with

1816
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: some thoughts on this week shows. Really enjoyed that very provocative,

1817
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 3: the very provocative discussions on this week's shows. Just wanted

1818
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: to share my thoughts on two things that are very

1819
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 3: close to my heart.

1820
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: The first the hobby lobby debacle.

1821
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 3: When we talk about this issue, I think it is

1822
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 3: important to understand the class dimensions of the conversation. Rod

1823
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: was spot on when he said that workers have rights.

1824
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 3: At the heart of the issue are reproductive rights and

1825
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 3: accessible healthcare. Is the idea that it is poor women

1826
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 3: who should not have these things and should have their

1827
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 3: sexuality police.

1828
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 4: Oh yes, agreed.

1829
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 3: Because what's so funny is statistically, if you look at

1830
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 3: who gets abortions, it's actually not women that need to

1831
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 3: go to fucking playing parenthood to get these abortions.

1832
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: The people that can pay cash for There's.

1833
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 4: People who have access to money.

1834
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: So that's the reason that it's even a quote unquote

1835
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: black women's issue in the first place, Black equating to

1836
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: underclass as poor in this situation in America, because a

1837
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: lot of people see class and race in the twine.

1838
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 3: This is not a white women's issue. White women have

1839
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 3: access to money and resources typically in the American you know,

1840
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 3: in the stereotypes that Americans truck in, so they don't

1841
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 3: see it that way. They simply see it as a

1842
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 3: way to control and police poor people.

1843
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 4: Minorities, et cetera.

1844
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree, I think class is about it

1845
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 3: is a lot of it, because it ain't like these

1846
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 3: CEOs of hobby lobby. If their daughter gets pregnant, Uh,

1847
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like, well, she shouldn't have access to

1848
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 3: this thing either. You know, you better stay off birth control.

1849
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: I bet their daughters and wives on birth control right now.

1850
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: For people who can afford private doctors or pay for

1851
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 3: birth control out of pocket, they are unaffected. For instance,

1852
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 3: these organizations that are targeting birth control clinics are not

1853
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: bombing the homes of private doctors who can also give abortions.

1854
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 3: Poor working class women stand to benefit most from rebirth control.

1855
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 4: As a result, they will lose the most.

1856
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 3: They will lose the most of hobby lobby ones the case,

1857
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 3: and it is more important than just being able to

1858
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: not have unwanted children. Historically, social service programs, both government

1859
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 3: programs and nonprofits have used quote unquote charity as a

1860
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 3: way of dictating what poor women can and cannot do

1861
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 3: with their bodies. Accessible birth control would mean that the

1862
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 3: government and religious organizations would no longer have a say

1863
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 3: so in what women do with their bodies. Hold on,

1864
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 3: got call, yo, what's up? Oh shit, that didn't work?

1865
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 4: All right? I'm sorry about that.

1866
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Let's see, in spite of all the shade that Rod

1867
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 3: gets for apparently being tough on Christians, whatever that means,

1868
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 3: why is this thing doing this?

1869
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 4: What is going on? All right?

1870
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, in spite of all the shade that Rad gets

1871
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 3: for apparently being tough on Christians whatever that means, I'm

1872
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 3: really glad you all talked about this.

1873
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 4: All right.

1874
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 3: Now, we got a call. Let's see if this works. Yo,

1875
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 3: Y're on with the blackout tips?

1876
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 7: Hey? What's up? People? I got it? What's up? What's up? Sweetheart? Hey?

1877
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 7: I got a question? Roy?

1878
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 6: Have you ever suggest that did that you and your

1879
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 6: boys play basketball and dresses?

1880
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm wearing a dress right now doing the show.

1881
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 6: So yeah, I just I just look, I ain't trying

1882
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 6: to you know, be able to subject whatever and all

1883
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 6: that shit, but I'm just I'm just curious, like everybody.

1884
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 6: I'm just like you, everybody freaking out over dudes wearing

1885
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 6: dresses whatever. So I'm thinking, is it the same as

1886
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 6: like when back in the day women weren't supposed to

1887
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 6: wear pants and shorts and all of that ship. You know,

1888
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 6: it's that kind of thing. So so what happened? Remember

1889
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 6: they thought, so this woman put on a pair of pants,

1890
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 6: she's gonna turn into this manly motherfucker and and all

1891
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 6: of this ship.

1892
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 7: So I'm thinking this is that the same thing? I

1893
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 7: I don't get it.

1894
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: I got it.

1895
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 3: I got a question. I got a question for any

1896
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 3: woman that got a problem with dudes wearing dresses.

1897
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 4: Do you listen to Prince.

1898
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 8: H Come on now, because it's so I don't want

1899
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 8: to hear If I see any Prince on your iPod,

1900
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 8: your Spotify playlist, I don't want to hear it. Prince

1901
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 8: and Chills, you got to you got the Prince Pandora channel.

1902
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up? How about that feminization? My ass?

1903
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 7: Yeah? You know, but all do you know? Respect the

1904
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 7: miss first time lady call her?

1905
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's cool except for the eight and a half

1906
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 3: minute voice. Man, I really didn't have much of a problem.

1907
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 3: It's just it was so long. I'm not talking about

1908
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 3: dresses for that long dog.

1909
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1910
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I just don't get how it's a

1911
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 6: conspiracy and all of that, whether I really because I'm like,

1912
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 6: it's the reason that motherfucker's a five percent. It's not

1913
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 6: a destination. Please don't come, Please don't come looking for me. Yeah,

1914
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 6: but I'm just it's a reason, y'all. Five percenters, y'all, y'all,

1915
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 6: y'all gone, man, y'all, y'all, dinosaurs and ship, I mean,

1916
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 6: y'all gone.

1917
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 7: You really, y'all, y'all.

1918
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, you know, but you know I'm I'm anyway,

1919
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 6: just just whatever.

1920
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 7: That't even when I call for Leonard uh way at brouh.

1921
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 6: Okay, Uh, you was given the crown by the people,

1922
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 6: and uh you ain't representing Oh Lord listening, I ain't

1923
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 6: hear no voicemail last week from you, and I ain't

1924
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 6: heard on this week.

1925
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 7: I Uh, that's not how you represent the crown. Bro.

1926
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 6: I gotta get back on my grind. Okay, I will

1927
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 6: be coming to take my title back. That's that's real talk,

1928
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 6: because you ain't represented right already, got damn you.

1929
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 7: You're just gonna get the motherfucking crown and just go

1930
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 7: and just go chill and go to bed and go

1931
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 7: to sleep.

1932
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: I get everything.

1933
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 7: That's all right, bro, I get this. This ain't right, man,

1934
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 7: this ain't right.

1935
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 6: Oh and Stephen, Stephen, it's son, brother, it's onn Okay, you.

1936
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 7: Say you're gonna put your head back in the ring.

1937
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, Well we both gonna do get out here

1938
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 6: because Lena don't want this motherfucking crown.

1939
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 7: He'll he don't you know, to do with it? He

1940
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 7: just what the fuck? He's like a piece, he's a pussy.

1941
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 7: It's like, oh, what do I do with it? Now?

1942
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 7: What do I do with it?

1943
01:30:58,600 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 9: There?

1944
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 7: And oh, she did you stick your dick in it? Leonard?

1945
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 7: That's what the fuck?

1946
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 2: You do?

1947
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 7: You stick your deck head? And that's what you're dealing

1948
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 7: with it, Leonard. Okay, so yeah, it's finna be on again.

1949
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 6: Uh and then then you know what I just I

1950
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 6: just listen to all this ship, you know, your feedback.

1951
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 6: It's just like it's amazing. I just I just love

1952
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 6: the different points of view and ship. But like, I

1953
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 6: ain't trying to keep y'all all because I got conk

1954
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 6: fitters and kunk selling and frying comp they're gonna make

1955
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 6: and I know y'all trying to get up out of here.

1956
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 7: But yeah, I just want to say, Leonard is all,

1957
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 7: you ain't repping right. You ain't rapping right.

1958
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 6: We're gonna see next year right about this time, were

1959
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 6: gonna see.

1960
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 7: You ain't gonna be it. It's gonna be out of

1961
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 7: me or Steven, it's gonna be out of me. Different

1962
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 7: because it ain't gonna be you.

1963
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 4: Leonard is in the chat. Leonard's in the chat talking ship.

1964
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 7: In the chat, he's, well, you're here in the chat.

1965
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 7: Get your ass on the phone and talk to you.

1966
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 7: I can't hear no chat. Did you play? Did you

1967
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 7: play chat mail?

1968
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 12: No?

1969
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: Talking about he sounds he said, y'all sound mad at

1970
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 3: y'all lost.

1971
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 6: Look bore, Yanks, ass keyboy, Yanks, get on, get on

1972
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 6: the mic, niggas.

1973
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 8: Get off you on the mic, Leonard, get your ass

1974
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 8: on the motherfucking mic.

1975
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 7: Ship. Who mad? Who made you gonna be mad?

1976
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 8: Nigga?

1977
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 7: You gonna be mad?

1978
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 6: You ain't gonna win ship from this point, I put

1979
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 6: my fucking put on your throat. Finer, motherfucking steps Cappa stomp, nigga, you.

1980
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 7: Man, Stephen, it's song, bro, Let's go ahead and turn

1981
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 7: this mother for y'all cause it don't want nothing. Let

1982
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 7: it over there, litter.

1983
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 6: Still mad called North Carolina the way they.

1984
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 7: Got bounced down the cat there.

1985
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 4: Hold on me too.

1986
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 6: You over there looking salty ship. So it's all good, Litterard.

1987
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 6: You know what, it's okay. When you wanna get back

1988
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 6: in the game, bring gass linen, bring you, bring your

1989
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 6: ass linen.

1990
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 4: It's time to play with the big Take the dress off, Lenard.

1991
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, got all this good pussing on there?

1992
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 4: What to do right now?

1993
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 7: Hold on?

1994
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 3: Let me he say it was called call back, Leonard.

1995
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 3: I'll put you on, brother, you really think you want

1996
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 3: some of them?

1997
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 2: No, I'll put him on with you.

1998
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 4: I put him on with you. Call the show, Lenny.

1999
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 4: Take your dress off and stop?

2000
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, leave it out, video, dress on and stop stop

2001
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 3: trying to fight uh these women?

2002
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 4: Leonard?

2003
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 7: You there?

2004
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 12: Yes, sir?

2005
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 4: All right now chill, go ahead and say what you

2006
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 4: have to say to him.

2007
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 7: What you got to say? Bro? What I mean? What's

2008
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,839
Speaker 7: going on talking all that show and the keyboard?

2009
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 6: Talk to me. Stephen then called you out. I'm calling

2010
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 6: you out. Well yet get your little crown? Did you

2011
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 6: go hid think? Oh what you're gonna do about it. Brother,

2012
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 6: this is a.

2013
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 12: Man you want right now. You know what you sound like.

2014
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 12: You sound like an angry feminist.

2015
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: Oh damn.

2016
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,919
Speaker 7: But I'll take that because don't forget.

2017
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 12: Like angry.

2018
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 5: Gonna come.

2019
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 7: I did with that argument. That's why I got my tippy.

2020
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 11: Uh huh.

2021
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 12: You want to tip your award? You want to tip

2022
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 12: your award?

2023
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 5: This ship.

2024
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 12: Can live on that home set, can I live?

2025
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? Chill is it?

2026
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 3: Is it?

2027
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: Okay?

2028
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 3: If Lenna gives his acceptance speech, because he never did

2029
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 3: give us his seven speech, his time, Okay, Okay, Well

2030
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 3: I guess you gotta do it on your own time, Leonard.

2031
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 7: I did president and thank the people like I did.

2032
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 12: This is my time. You know why my time? Because

2033
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 12: you felt so set about it that you said, you

2034
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 12: know what I'm going through. I'm gonna call the black

2035
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 12: guy who tips and talk about this.

2036
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 5: Nigga.

2037
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 12: I was on your mind every since my man said

2038
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 12: the winner is one of the brothers. You've been nad

2039
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,520
Speaker 12: Really you better nag? Yeah, Lena, did you have anybody

2040
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 12: to why call me off?

2041
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 5: Man, Leonard?

2042
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 3: Did you have anybody you on the thing? Did you

2043
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 3: have anybody you want to thank Leonard for for your award.

2044
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 7: Man.

2045
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I wanted to think all of the Hankey's, the

2046
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 12: moon cricket chinamen and the people whose back ain't dry

2047
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 12: it is possible. That's who I wanted to think. And

2048
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 12: of course black guys articipation, and I wanted to get

2049
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 12: a shout out to everybody else that was in my category.

2050
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 12: But you know, I've got two people coming from my neck,

2051
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 12: so you know.

2052
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 7: You ain't representing.

2053
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 12: Listen, listen, listen. Nobody told you how to represent your crowd.

2054
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 12: You got your crown from that artument. Nobody called in

2055
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 12: and said, Chittle, you ain't representing your ship right, You

2056
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,560
Speaker 12: ain't failing your ship right. Let me letting me have

2057
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 12: the mark. I want to have the mind lady.

2058
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 6: Nobody had to call me and tell me nothing. Nigga,

2059
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 6: I said, wasn't happening to do with the show I

2060
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 6: called in the game two cent?

2061
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 7: What you gonna deal?

2062
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 5: Bruh?

2063
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 6: You got to represent every week. You can't represent once

2064
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 6: a year.

2065
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 12: Child. I represent in the chat woman that got the

2066
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 12: way babies. That's why I got nominated.

2067
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,919
Speaker 4: Nigga, What I doing in the stitcher?

2068
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 12: I can't hear no shot, but you hear rock say

2069
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 12: when a brother says bare blah and then you hear

2070
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 12: him laugh, and then you see people on Twitter like

2071
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 12: then that was fast ship.

2072
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's what it is now. So that's feedback. Okay,

2073
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 6: So feedback is representation, and.

2074
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 12: That's a big feedback because that's the only other way

2075
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 12: that I remember that I hadn't. I haven't that's a

2076
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 12: voicemail or anything like that in a long time. So

2077
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 12: why would I've been in the category. That means my

2078
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 12: shit was so good that they had to come through

2079
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 12: and give me the nomination. Don't be mad, baby, they say, chill,

2080
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 12: I'm just a place. This hurts my art. You know

2081
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 12: what I'm saying. I'm gonna have to call you offline.

2082
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 12: We're gonna have to have a power about this ship.

2083
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 12: We might have to get open ball on the ball

2084
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 12: and have ship down.

2085
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 2: She ain't the boss of me. She ain't the boss

2086
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 2: of me.

2087
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 12: Neither you let the boss of me either. You don't

2088
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 12: call me Listen, Look, look when is your birthday?

2089
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 7: When it is right, it's today, I was born.

2090
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 12: That's what my mother birthday was yesterday.

2091
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 7: You know.

2092
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 3: To me, to me, to me, this sounds like y'all

2093
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 3: are just trying to win Best Award for Best Argument

2094
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 3: next year.

2095
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 4: That's all. It sounds like.

2096
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 12: It sounds like, y'all guess what it is. And I

2097
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 12: think she's trying to win that category twice in the

2098
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 12: road by stars and ship.

2099
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 6: Ain't no competition my business?

2100
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 12: My business? Are you saying? Ultra said in the shade room,

2101
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 12: she's a boss? She said, she is a boss. But

2102
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 12: you gotta said about that. You aren't represent your ship

2103
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 12: right him here on your relationship down she was the ball.

2104
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 12: What's up with that? You thirteen dick? But she got

2105
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:16,839
Speaker 12: the mother with more control.

2106
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 7: I know that's the real. First of all, that's real.

2107
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 5: Okay, s.

2108
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 12: Let's let's ask the question, though, Let's ask a question.

2109
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 12: Who is wearing the pants and your relationship? Let me

2110
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 12: find out you ain't learning the dress.

2111
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 6: Man dis nigga, the same person who wearing the dicks?

2112
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 6: He who has the dicks run?

2113
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 12: I don't know.

2114
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 7: I don't know dicks and dresses.

2115
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 4: Never know.

2116
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 12: You sounded like DRIs my nigga. You sounded like drinks

2117
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 12: over there.

2118
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 7: Hey are you serious? Are you serious? Bro?

2119
01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:59,799
Speaker 12: She was your first name, Aubrey.

2120
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 2: Is that the best you can do?

2121
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 8: Bro?

2122
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 7: Bro? That's all you got, bro.

2123
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 4: All right, guys, I gotta enough. I've got to get

2124
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:15,879
Speaker 4: back to the feed.

2125
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 12: Back man, shout out the start y'all.

2126
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 3: I love you too, man, thanks, thanks, letters, he's out.

2127
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 4: I love those guys that.

2128
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 3: I really do think that's the early front runner for

2129
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,440
Speaker 3: the Argument of the Year, though, I mean, we surprised

2130
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 3: that doesn't get nominated.

2131
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:43,480
Speaker 4: How you gonna are you about an award for last year? Uh?

2132
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 4: We were reading I'm sorry, Shaney was reading your song.

2133
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:48,919
Speaker 2: Turned in, professor.

2134
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, Shane can't get through an email no more.

2135
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 4: Let's see.

2136
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 3: Despite all the shade that Rod gets for apparently being

2137
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 3: tough on Christians, whatever that means, I'm really glad that

2138
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 3: you all talked about this. Early this week there was

2139
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 3: an episode about assist gender Man who discovered that his

2140
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 3: partner was a trans woman. Uh well transsexual, not just

2141
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:12,560
Speaker 3: trans as for the record, not transgender transsexual. This is

2142
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 3: a hard one for me on the other On the

2143
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 3: one no punt, This is a hard one for me.

2144
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 3: On the one hand, I am a member of the

2145
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 3: queer community. I have been in relationships with trans people,

2146
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 3: and I am in solidarity with trans issues, particularly on

2147
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: a right to bodily privacy and integrity. On the other hand,

2148
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 3: I believe in looking at the world as it is

2149
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 3: rather than as it should be or as I want.

2150
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 7: It to be.

2151
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 3: All Right, I would like to know more about that,

2152
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 3: like transgender, transsexual? Did they come out and nobly tell you?

2153
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,440
Speaker 3: When did they tell you?

2154
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, I wonder how it works,

2155
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 4: I really do.

2156
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 3: That's what I need to do. I need to get

2157
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 3: a transgender person on the show.

2158
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 4: That's what I do. Well.

2159
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 3: I certainly understand all the points that were raised. I

2160
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 3: could take a joke because, after all, nothing's wrong, it's funny. Yeah,

2161
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 3: if you've been listening to show, don't cobear me. Okay,

2162
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 3: we've been talking shit about every other category of.

2163
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,879
Speaker 2: Human being everybody else to take for years.

2164
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 3: I really, you know, let's not act like today was

2165
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 3: the day that we can't make a joke. I was

2166
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 3: admittedly uncomfortable with the repeated use of the word quote

2167
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: unquote trick to describe what this woman was doing.

2168
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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing is I think because we had

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Speaker 3: just read the article and we were using kind of

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01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 3: his mindset to discuss, like from his point of view,

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01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,879
Speaker 3: what happened I think he would have felt quote unquote

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01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 3: tricked after after having sex with somebody and then finding

2174
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 3: out that they used to be a man that like,

2175
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 3: I don't know that because even in my mind, I

2176
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 3: was like, you know, if you quote unquote tricked me,

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01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 3: then you got me, what the fuck am I supposed

2178
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 3: to say? Like, you know, at that point, it's kind

2179
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 3: of nothing I can do about it, So I'm not

2180
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 3: gonna be violent. I don't think I won't feel like, well,

2181
01:41:57,160 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 3: now I'm gay. I don't know what the thing other

2182
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 3: than well, you lied to me or you didn't feel

2183
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 3: that you could share that with me. But even at

2184
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 3: that point, I don't know that anger is the thing

2185
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 3: that I would feel, you know what I mean. I

2186
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 3: just don't you know, or at least maybe it's one

2187
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 3: of those things that has to happen to you before

2188
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 3: you know.

2189
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 4: But I just can't imagine my mind.

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01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 3: The first place I would go to is I'm mad

2191
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: at you. You know, I might be hurt, like, wow,

2192
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,600
Speaker 3: you thought I was one of those motherfuckers that was

2193
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 3: going to react badly, so you didn't tell me. I

2194
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 3: might be hurt that kind of way, But I just

2195
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 3: can't imagine being like now I'm a fuck your sister

2196
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 3: and marry her and not let the kids see the family.

2197
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 4: I can't see myself going that far. I just couldn't.

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01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 3: So I think during the discussion the only reason we

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01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 3: were using the kind of the term trick is because,

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01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 3: at least in my mind, that's what he would have felt.

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Speaker 4: And that's how people that were.

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01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 3: Offended by her not saying anything felt, they would feel tricked.

2203
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 3: Like I said, that's my guess, setting aside the issue

2204
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 3: of communication or miscommunication for second, to put it simply,

2205
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: she's a trans woman who is straight. She may not

2206
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 3: want to be part of the LGBT community and just

2207
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 3: live as a straight woman. So she has a conundrum,

2208
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 3: knowing that straight men have a complex about dating trans women,

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01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 3: even those that have had surgery, She has to make

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01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 3: a choice between being upfront about it and risk any rejection,

2211
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 3: keeping it a secret and risking being found out, or

2212
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 3: living life alone.

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01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2214
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, especially the part about rejection. That's something

2215
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 3: we really didn't get to discuss. But yeah, part of

2216
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 3: the reason she could not tell is also and this

2217
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 3: is more manipulative and more fucked up in my opinion,

2218
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 3: But if you're only doing it because you think they'll

2219
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 3: reject you, not because of like violence or anything, but

2220
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 3: just because you know that this person has been open

2221
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 3: about the fact that they would not want to be

2222
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 3: in this situation. And if you go, well, I'm just

2223
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 3: not gonna tell you, then that would be fucked up,

2224
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 3: because to me, that would be like if you were

2225
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 3: married and you were dating somebody on the side and

2226
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 3: then you were like, I'm just gonna hide it I'm

2227
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 3: married from them, and they find out you're married and

2228
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 3: they go, WHOA, I wouldn't be fucking a married man. Yeah,

2229
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 3: So why so you hear this from me on purpose?

2230
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 3: Because you know that my choice would be no. So

2231
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 3: that's why you didn't tell me, I think. And obviously

2232
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 3: there's no way to notice in what's going on in

2233
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 3: someone's brain. But that's the only situation where I would

2234
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 3: feel manipulated is if somebody said I didn't tell you

2235
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 3: because I knew that you weren't gonna be cool with this.

2236
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 3: That's when I would be upset. If you just told

2237
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 3: me I didn't tell you because I wasn't ready, or

2238
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 3: I was worried about how you would perceive me after this,

2239
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 3: or something like that, I would be way less disturbed

2240
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 3: at all, Like as opposed to if you said, no,

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01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 3: I knew for a fact this you weren't okay with this.

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01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 4: I just said, I'm not telling you. That's when I

2243
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 4: would be mad, I think.

2244
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 3: But if you just said I didn't know how you

2245
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 3: felt and I just didn't want to, you know, bring

2246
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 3: it up because I didn't know, I would be a

2247
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 3: little less mad.

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01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Okay? All right?

2249
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 3: This must This might be an unpopular opinion among my

2250
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 3: wall hold on way, where was I these emotional difficulties

2251
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 3: or yeah, risk of being rejected, being found out, living

2252
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 3: life alone? Because I have seen transparent trans people deal

2253
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 3: with the kinds of emotional difficulties when dating, and for

2254
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 3: many of them, if there was no stigma, they would

2255
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 3: be honest with their partners. I emphasized with this woman's situation.

2256
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 3: I empathize with this woman's situation. Yeah, I see, Yeah,

2257
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 3: if there was no stigma, I bet people would be

2258
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 3: way more upfront. If it was just as easy as

2259
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 3: saying I'm a Christian or I'm uh, you know, I

2260
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 3: I pledged out of for THEATA or some ship like

2261
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 3: I bet you people wouldn't. If people didn't look at

2262
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 3: this as well, now I'm going to beat you up,

2263
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 3: or I'm going to out to you, or I'm going

2264
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 3: to uh, you know, be.

2265
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 4: Upset with you or whatever.

2266
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 3: I think people would be if it didn't feel like

2267
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 3: it had to be a secret. I think people wouldn't

2268
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 3: it like one, because you could fuck somebody's life up

2269
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 3: with this knowledge, and that's something that nobody wanted to acknowledge.

2270
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 4: And just telling somebody on a date.

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01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 3: Or something like yeah, I'm you know, transsexual, I was

2272
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,759
Speaker 3: born to man blah blah blah, and then that person

2273
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 3: goes ew I kissed a man and goes on your

2274
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 3: Facebook page or goes on to call your job or

2275
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 3: like you could theoretically fuck someone's life up. Now, on

2276
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 3: the other other side, I think that being open before

2277
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 3: you have sex with someone is an issue of emotional

2278
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 3: and physical safety for both parties. Trans women in particular

2279
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 3: targets for violence, so for one's own safety, I think

2280
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 3: you should disclose that information as a system. Yeah, that's

2281
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 3: another way I was thinking about it too, because it's

2282
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 3: twofold one.

2283
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 4: If I'm going to fuck you and.

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01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 3: Never tell I like there, I think if I was

2285
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 3: gonna have sex with somebody I was transgender and I

2286
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 3: had surgery. I would either hell you kind of upfront

2287
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 3: so that you can get used to this idea before

2288
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 3: we do anything. Or I would never fucking tell you

2289
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 3: and just wouldn't have a relationship or anything with you, okay,

2290
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 3: because I couldn't deal with the this shit hanging over

2291
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 3: my head. I couldn't deal with, uh, whatever your reaction

2292
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: is gonna be, you know what I'm saying. Like, I

2293
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 3: would either just go my plan was the fuck you

2294
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 3: would never tell you, or my plan was to tell

2295
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 3: you before we had sex.

2296
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 4: That would probably be my reaction, you.

2297
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

2298
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 3: I can't speak for anyone else because I'm not in

2299
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 3: that situation really, but that, in my thinking, that's the

2300
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 3: safest ways because telling it seems like this is the

2301
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 3: most risky way to fuck somebody in there and be like,

2302
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 3: guess what, you know what I mean?

2303
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 4: They might not Yeah, they might not act right.

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01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 12: You know.

2305
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 3: As a CIS woman who was dated trans women, I

2306
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 3: often feel like SIS privilege meant that I was not

2307
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 3: allowed to have any kind of feelings about having a

2308
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 3: trans partner. But the reality is that it is emotional. Uh,

2309
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 3: it is emotional and communication was essential to a healthy relationship.

2310
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 3: This might be unpopular among my queer friends, but I

2311
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 3: think the guy had a right to know and make

2312
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 3: decisions about what he would do with his body.

2313
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 4: Secondly, and that's what Carol's saying.

2314
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 3: Secondly, health professionals assigned risk levels to people who have

2315
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 3: engaged in certain types of sexual relationships. For instance, even

2316
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 3: though I always have safe sex, I'm honest with my

2317
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 3: female proudner's about the fact that I've had sex with men,

2318
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 3: because people deserve to know what risk they are getting

2319
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 3: into when having sex so that they can make informed choices.

2320
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 3: While I respect the woman's choice to disclose information on

2321
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 3: her own time, I think to wait until after they

2322
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 3: had sex is refusing to give him his own rights

2323
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 3: to body integrity.

2324
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,959
Speaker 4: And to reiterate, I don't think it's about trickery.

2325
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 3: It's about healthy communication and allowing all parties to make

2326
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 3: informed choices.

2327
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, there's two parts, right.

2328
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it's quote unquote about the I feel

2329
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 3: like calling it something other than trick ory might be

2330
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 3: an issue for some people or whatever. Saying the word

2331
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 3: trick for me personally, I feel like that's being dishonest.

2332
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 3: The person in this situation who has found out after

2333
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 3: having sex that this that they did not have all

2334
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 3: the information, is going to feel the word quote unquote

2335
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 3: trick like like that would be denying their feelings to

2336
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 3: say that, well, no, it's it's it's about other things.

2337
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 3: It's about healthy communication. That well, the reason that they

2338
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 3: would go this was not healthy communication. You didn't tell me,

2339
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 3: so they would feel trick. That's kind of the whole

2340
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 3: point of his discussion, you know, of his not his

2341
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 3: discussion his letter, yes, is that he did feel trick

2342
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 3: and this is all a reaction to that. The validity

2343
01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 3: of of him feeling tricked and all that shit, I

2344
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 3: think it is up for debate, you know. But as

2345
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 3: far as that initial feeling, I think a lot of

2346
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 3: people would feel that way. I don't think that they're wrong.

2347
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 3: I don't think they'd be wrong to say I felt

2348
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 3: tricked or I was tricked. I don't think they would

2349
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 3: feel be wrong to say that. It's just, you know,

2350
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 3: it's just not uh this. I don't know what the

2351
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 3: PC word for this is, because I don't think it's well,

2352
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 3: I just feel unhealthily communicated to is not natural for

2353
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 3: people to say people are gonna be like I felt

2354
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 3: like she tricked me, you know what I mean.

2355
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 4: That's for the rest of the story.

2356
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 3: The that woman's sister is a fuck ass bitch and

2357
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 3: heeds are asked.

2358
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 4: I agreed she was the worst.

2359
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 6: Amy.

2360
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 4: I'll never forget Amy. What an ass though? Who does that?

2361
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 3: Hey, you're fucking my sister right? She used to be

2362
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 3: a dude. All right, If you want to hang out

2363
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 3: any time, just call me. Sorry for the long email

2364
01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 3: is always thanks for to talk on hard issues about

2365
01:50:59,400 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 3: with honesty.

2366
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 4: Oh you?

2367
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 2: Oh you welcome sweet any time.

2368
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 3: Matthew wrote us he's my Facebook friend and I made

2369
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 3: a comment on Facebook that he felt he wanted to

2370
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 3: write the show about.

2371
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 4: And now my Gmail is freezing up. Well what is

2372
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 4: going on?

2373
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 8: Oh Gmail?

2374
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 2: It's like you ain't gonna get this one in.

2375
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 3: Let me try refreshing guys. I don't know what that

2376
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: was about. Hey Rod, I thought that America's pastime. Oh yeah,

2377
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 3: I made a post on Facebook and it was has

2378
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,839
Speaker 3: masturbation officially passed baseball as America's number one pastime?

2379
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 5: Yet?

2380
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 4: Hey Rod, I thought the timing of this was too funny.

2381
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 3: You had asked on Facebook where the masturbation was America's pastime.

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Speaker 3: Apparently it is to someone in my surrounding neighborhood. I

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01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 3: get home from work a couple of days ago and

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01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 3: have this notice from my neighborhood Watch. My thought was,

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Speaker 3: what sort of purv does this? But still laugh because

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Speaker 3: of the questions that came to mind. I'm in Michigan

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Speaker 3: and it's only been above freezing maybe seven times the

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01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 3: last four months, and the holdest window I can't imagine

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01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 3: he accidentally hit sin before he could send it, but

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Speaker 3: he added this, So I thought to myself, aren't there

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Speaker 3: better ways to stay so warm that in zero degrees outside?

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Speaker 3: If they were caught, does the person who calls the

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Speaker 3: cops have to go to the station and make an id?

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Speaker 3: How awkward would that be? And how do you get

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01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 3: that close to someone when it's that early in the

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01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 3: morning to be able to tell what's happening? When I'm

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Speaker 3: presuming it was still somewhat dark in the morning and

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Speaker 3: probably out of coat on he wod to go work

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Speaker 3: with the shows, Matt, so he attaches this, and it

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Speaker 3: says Neighborhood Watch March twenty six, twenty thirteen. Alert crime

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Speaker 3: prevention truly is a community commitment. We must look out

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Speaker 3: for one another and report any and all suspicious activity

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01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 3: with that sin is come to our attention that in

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Speaker 3: the past few weeks a person that's been observed masturbating

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01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 3: on our property in the early morning hours. The police

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01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 3: were made aware of the situation and responded promptly when called. Further,

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01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,759
Speaker 3: as a result of diligent neighbors reporting sus suspicious behavior,

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Speaker 3: the police have increased for patrols in our neighborhood. We

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01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 3: were like members to continue to look out for any

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01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 3: suspicious person's and or behavior and report all incidents to police.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, his dick was was about three inches. I don't

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01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 8: think he was, you know, fully erect.

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Speaker 3: Uh described to dick please, well it was black. He

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01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 3: was wearing nikes. Okay, six feet tall. We know this guy.

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Speaker 2: We'll get them open the ship case.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we'll sprinkle some crack on Himsel the arrest some

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Speaker 3: brother for fitting the description.

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Speaker 4: Of a dick. Of course, you were wearing your hat backwards.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Tweet on tweet tweaking off that tweeked audio from h

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Speaker 3: mister Biggs.

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Speaker 4: He says, Hey, guys, this is anima sparks to here.

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Speaker 3: Just had to write about those tweet these tweeked audio

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Speaker 3: headphones with the inevitable one side goes completely dead happened

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Speaker 3: last week. I instantly thought of tweaked Audio dot com.

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Speaker 3: I hopped on the computer, placed in order using discount code.

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Speaker 3: Of course, TBG T and BAM new headphones Yoga. Ordered

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Speaker 3: them Jinks on Friday. Use them to flood my ear

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Speaker 3: holes with sound on Monday. That's a quality product right there.

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Speaker 3: Finding good headphones. It's so hard these days. Thanks again, Roddy,

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Speaker 3: Karen and Tommy from Martin Voice. Get up on these

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Speaker 3: tweaks Audio headphones.

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Speaker 8: Dog Yeah, order them on Friday, got him on Monday.

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Speaker 8: Come on, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thank you Anime and Sparkster, and thanks to the

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01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 3: rest of the people who saying feedback. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: tomorrow at ten am on three Cast. Our guests will

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Speaker 3: be Lily Nelson, actress. She's been on the podcast for

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01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 3: we last time we did a show with Shout It

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Speaker 3: Out Productions. Also, we will have supposedly knock on Wood.

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Speaker 3: We'll have Ratt Blackami's Chick formerly of Brown, Brownskin and

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Speaker 3: Glasses on the show seven o'clock on Wednesday and Tuesday.

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01:54:55,960 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 3: We should have Brandy back on the show, comedian from Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: So uh all, that's all that to say. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you guys soon. And we have guests all over

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Speaker 3: the show this week, so don't forget you guys can

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01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 3: nominate those guests for tippies and all that good stuff too,

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01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 3: nice chat turn out in the chat glad, so many

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Speaker 3: people could come out, new people and old people.

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Speaker 4: Will like yes.

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Speaker 3: And we need to get on the road soon, So

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to you guys in a bit.

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Speaker 4: Until then, I love you, h