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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: March second. It was a late night for your boy

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Speaker 1: and another early morning. I'm on a dispute it again

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Speaker 1: all week. In fact, to join today by LaVar Errington

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Speaker 1: should be fun as usual. You know, we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. The show has been great this week. The

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Speaker 1: feedback has been tremendous. He has even the haters, especially

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Speaker 1: all y'all Philly people listen. Guys, it was fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: It was a risk on my part. Um. I had

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Speaker 1: talked to my buddy Jeff season ticket holds, a great guy,

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Speaker 1: great skier in fact, and I was like, we should

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Speaker 1: know this MAVs game man, this is Luca don Che.

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Speaker 1: She's we'll do it, done deal. And then I get

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Speaker 1: the Undisputed morning show this week and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: of those like okay, let's see here. Do I force

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Speaker 1: and come back and not get as much sleep as

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Speaker 1: I should to be ready for and disputed. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta see Luka Dodges. Listen when when I talked him

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Speaker 1: up as the best player in the league, and I

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Speaker 1: said it to my buddy Jeff, and I think I

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Speaker 1: with us. A couple other guys went and I firmly believe, guys,

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna win the scoring title. But you just

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Speaker 1: look at that supporting cast man Okay Dorrian Finney Smith,

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bullock, Dwight Powell, uh Davis Burton's Maxie Kleiber. He

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Speaker 1: were very well coached by Jason Kidd, just a tremendous job.

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Speaker 1: Every single time Carmelo Anthony was on the floor, they're

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Speaker 1: they They waste no time in the Mavericks. You could

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Speaker 1: just you just watching every play and instantly it's Luca's calling,

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Speaker 1: give me Dwight Howard, give me Carmelo, and he's just

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Speaker 1: attacking him. But what really got interesting at in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, close game, Lakers had taken the lead, they

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Speaker 1: were down twenty in the first half. Incredible comeback by

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Lebron showing that he is still one of

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Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony was splashing like Malik Monk had a very

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Speaker 1: good game. Stanley Johnson hit three threes, like the Lakers

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Speaker 1: had a good game. They had fourteen and thirty four

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Speaker 1: from deep, hit of their free throws. And then at

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Speaker 1: the end, what happens. It's Luca Dodge. Basically, the final

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Speaker 1: seven minutes was just Luca Dodge. Here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna call for a pick and roll and if

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Speaker 1: Lebron and he wanted all the smoke and Luca Dontech listen,

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Speaker 1: you guys know I like Lebron. I'm a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: The guy's incredible. He's absolutely gassed right carrying this team, rebounding,

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Speaker 1: guard Luca Dontech. At the end of the game, and

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Speaker 1: Luca had a move where he hit a fade away

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Speaker 1: We're close enough to see. Luca turned to the crowd,

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Speaker 1: your king? And you know he was Jawn because lucas

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a long Wednesday for Lakers fans.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be consternation. How do we blow another fourth

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Speaker 1: losing their minds here. It was a tough game. They

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Speaker 1: all are tough right now. There are no moral victories

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers, which stinks. What else do you want

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Speaker 1: I don't want people to freak out about this, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand by what I said. When you add

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Speaker 1: Lebron is you know, one hit to the ground away

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Speaker 1: rookie undrafted. What do you expect, but Anthony Davis is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fulcrum in that offense. Also, less of

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Speaker 1: a load on Lebron James. Like, the trickle down from

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Speaker 1: They've still got to get to the playoffs. They are

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Speaker 1: and Lakers could miss the playoffs. I stand by, though,

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Speaker 1: what I said. If a D is healthy and Lebron

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Speaker 1: out of the West. I know that sounds insane. I

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Speaker 1: get it. You can write them off. It just count

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Speaker 1: out Lebron and a D at your own peril. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Today we have a great guest. He played college basketball

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Speaker 1: the highest level. He played the NBA. He's an announcer

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Speaker 1: for Fox. Casey Jacobson, really good guy, and we dive

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Speaker 1: deep into March madness to get you ready. You know it. Listen,

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Speaker 1: it's the month of March. Championship Week is coming up.

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Speaker 1: Then the n c A tournament draw, and you know

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Speaker 1: I'm heavy on the tournament. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: win your bracket, you want to win your cal Cuta.

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Speaker 1: You guys know what that is, right, You want to

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Speaker 1: win some money gambling on the tournament, which you definitely

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Speaker 1: will be. You need to tune in to this interview

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Speaker 1: with Casey Jacobson of Fox Sports. Jason likes to think

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. I know

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Speaker 1: what sports dance want, but for everything he doesn't. He

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Speaker 1: knows a guy who does. Let's just say I know

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Speaker 1: a guy who knows the guys. Another guy. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome back to straight Fire. One of the best

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna he doesn't like when I hype

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Speaker 1: him up that way, but he played in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Casey Jacobson how are you, man, Jason, I'm great, man.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's gonna be with you. It's March, so yes,

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Speaker 1: on the precipice of March Madness. And it's also my

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Speaker 1: birthday month. To wow, my birthday falls Jason on the

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Speaker 1: first round of the tournament. No way, March eighteenth. March nineteen, Okay,

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Speaker 1: my son is the eighteenth. And this has been an

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Speaker 1: ongoing thing. Like I'm like, listen to. The tournament is massive.

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Speaker 1: So we had to push his birthday the weekend before

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Speaker 1: most of years. Did you do that too? You gotta

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Speaker 1: do what you gotta do, man, Yeah, you gotta watch

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Speaker 1: March Madness. I know. Everything else gets pushed aside, including birthdays. Yes. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: I love my kid, But the worst birthday of my life, Jason, Well,

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Speaker 1: I've had two really bad birthdays. Okay, My first bad

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Speaker 1: my nineteenth birthday. Was my freshman year at Stanford. We

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Speaker 1: Joseph Forte, I thought he would be an awesome NBA player,

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Speaker 1: just never really materialized. Coda was a was a stud

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Speaker 1: So this is a really bizarre time in college basketball

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Speaker 1: transfer market and start to get get guys who are veterans,

424
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 1: who can you know, get I can get back to

425
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: winning because this young guy thing, I don't know if

426
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna work long term. Absolutely. Okay is a very

427
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: smart guy. And you know he had struggled with a

428
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: couple of young teams that really hadn't lived up to potential.

429
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 1: And I imagine that he and his coaching staff were

430
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: in rooms being like, what's going on? How do we

431
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: get in front of us? How do we change what's

432
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: happening here? And Kentucky is as unique or as good

433
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Speaker 1: as any program in the country, and I include like

434
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: Duke and Kansas in those at being able to recruit

435
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: any player in the country. Like they can recruit any

436
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: player they want in high school if they want to.

437
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: They can go out and get any transfer and say,

438
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm John Calipari. I will put you in the NBA

439
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Player film. One season you will win games and you

440
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: go to the NBA What what guy is going to

441
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: turn down that pin? It's It's like Saban with Alabama,

442
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: right if you go to say play for Saban you're

443
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: going to the NFL, So I am curious. Is there

444
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: an interesting story behind Oscar getting out of West Virginia

445
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: and to Lexington and our Huggins and Calipari. Do they

446
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: hate each other? Now? Like? How how does West Virginia

447
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: lose a guy who's probably gonna first team All American? Right? Yeah,

448
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: no question. I mean he's he's gonna be the player

449
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: of the year. I would say Oscar she Way Johnny

450
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: Davis at Weston are my two favorites just because of

451
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: how they both elevated their teams kind of put put

452
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: their team on their back at time. I mean, where

453
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: would Wisconsin be without Johnny Davis? That's pretty yeah a

454
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: that that's a good pivot point. Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Well,

455
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: I was just gonna comment on she Way. He left

456
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: unceremoniously from West Virginia. He was upset with with Huggins.

457
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: Huggins was displeased with him. You know, sometimes it's best

458
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: to just walk away, and and it worked out for

459
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: she Boy. Um it's been a great fit. Um. So

460
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: Johnny Davis, you mentioned him. It's funny. I looked him up.

461
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't remember this guy last year.

462
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: So he averaged seven points a game, and he was

463
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: not like a big time recruit. I don't even know

464
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Speaker 1: if he was the top one guy according to depending

465
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: on where you look. And then I do a list

466
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: of the top fifty college basketball players like the summer

467
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: before the season, and Johnny Davis was not on the list. Okay,

468
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: you average seven points a game last year and all

469
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: these people from Wisconsin, how do you don't know basketball?

470
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: You miss Davis? And I'm like thinking, let me look around, Casey.

471
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: He was not on any All Big Ten first team,

472
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: nothing anywhere, no preseason All American. How the hell does

473
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Speaker 1: a guy make that quick of a leap at Wisconsin?

474
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: So I call it the sophomore leap? Right, Which is

475
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: the biggest growth that you have as a college basketball

476
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: player in general? You know, there are exceptions, of course,

477
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: every rule, but in general, the biggest growth that you'll

478
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: have in your four years as a college basketball player

479
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: or student athlete is from your freshman year sophomore year.

480
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: When you go into your freshman no one really knows

481
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: what the hell they're doing as a friend, like they're

482
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: they're they're not used to um, you know, eating healthy,

483
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: they're not used to working out five six, seven days

484
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: a week in the weight room, and they're not used

485
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: to getting their butt kicked in practice like grown men

486
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: who are older and stronger and no more. Right, So

487
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: you you get, you take it on the chin your

488
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: freshman year, and the guys who are competitive and are

489
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Speaker 1: ready to um, you know, who are mentally tough, can

490
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: make that sophomore leap along with skills. Right, So that's

491
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: the other part of it is those guys have to

492
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Speaker 1: spend time in the off season developing their skill set.

493
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Davis showed small flashes of potential seven points game.

494
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Speaker 1: Keegan Murray, we've already mentioned him in Iowa also pieces

495
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: as a freshman seven eight points a game. Shows some

496
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: some some flashes, but was really inconsistent. Those two guys

497
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: have gotten in the gym and said I'm I'm gonna

498
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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to be the leading score of my team.

499
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: So not only did they work on their game, Jason,

500
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: but they were also given an opportunity. They were given like,

501
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: we need you Johnny Davis, We need you Keegan Murray

502
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Speaker 1: to take the ball and make something happen because we

503
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of people on our team that

504
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: can do that. So that's the other part of it

505
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Speaker 1: as well. And I'll throw in one other sophomore Jade

506
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Speaker 1: n Ivy for Perdue. Oh yeah, but last year as

507
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: a freshman was brilliant at times, and then there were

508
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: other games when I'm watching Jade and Ivy, I'm like, man,

509
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: this guy's trying to always got five or and he

510
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: can't shoot threes. Right, So like those are three guys

511
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: and which all happened to be in the big tent.

512
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: But that's just coincidence. Who all, we're okay as freshman

513
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: and then have taken that sophomore leap because of time

514
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Speaker 1: in the gym, because of taking that stuff on the

515
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: chin all freshman long and then third are given an

516
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: opportunity by their head coach and say, hey man, we

517
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: need you to step forward and make plays for us. Yeah.

518
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Speaker 1: I like those college basketball stories. I mean your story.

519
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: Of course, you were like, you know, prayed well, you

520
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: prayed American in high school. Yeah, yeah, you were, so

521
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: everybody knew, like oh, Casey Jacobs to talk about. I mean,

522
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and venture a lot of people

523
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: will turn on the tourn at me, like Johnny David,

524
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: this guy is amazing, and like, that's the story I

525
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: think that helps college basketball, doesn't it Because a lot

526
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: of college football and in the high level college basketball.

527
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: You know about these guys in high school. You know,

528
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: they got five thousand followers on Instagram because they've been

529
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: dunking for years. But like Johnny Davis, I think he's

530
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: one of the best stories in college basketball, is he not?

531
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Speaker 1: He is definitely one of the best stories in college

532
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: basketball for the reasons I just mentioned, you know, because

533
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: we love underdog stories. Yes, people that come out of nowhere.

534
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: That's part of our country, is part of our you know,

535
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, we we love it. So yes, I Jason,

536
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Speaker 1: I believe that there are a lot of people who

537
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: don't really follow college basketball, like you and I don't,

538
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: don't watch it all the time, who have no idea

539
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: who Johnny Davis, and he will pop right off of

540
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: your television screen. They'll be like, WHOA, who's that dude?

541
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: Plus he plays for Wisconsin kind of a slower pace.

542
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: They're not super athletic. And I don't mean to say

543
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: like they're just a bunch of white dudes. That's not

544
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but like like they are a slower

545
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: paced team and he jumps off the screen. Same thing

546
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: with Perdue. If you don't know who Jaden Ivy is,

547
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: he might watch Perdu and see. Okay, they also have

548
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: seven foot for Zach Eaty, who also like kind of

549
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: pops off the screen. But Jade and Ivy is a

550
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: different dude. I mean, he goes when he puts it

551
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: into another gear that everybody else in college basketball doesn't have,

552
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: it's like whoa. So there's a lot of people I

553
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: think that are really gonna enjoy watching Jade Nivey, Keegan Murray,

554
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Davis here for the first time. I don't know

555
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: if you remember last year's Oklahoma Gonzaga game in the tournament.

556
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm a nerd. I love the tournament way too much.

557
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: And I saw Austin Reeves go at the entire Gonzaga

558
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: team and he had like, I think, like twenty eight points,

559
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: but it was clear he was one of the best

560
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: guys on the court. And Suggs was out there too,

561
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: And I start reading up on Reeves and I'm like,

562
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I've seen this guy. I don't remember him being this good,

563
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: and he was like under recruited. I mean, you know,

564
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: he's starting games for the Lakers. Now, Casey, he's like

565
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: blocking Clay Thompson lay up potential, Like that's incredible. Like,

566
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: so give me other guys besides Johnny Davis who you

567
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: think could have like one of those March moments where

568
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: they're like, damn, this guy can go. He's gonna be

569
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: a problem. Uma is a shooting guard for Kansas Kansas

570
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: who is really good, Like he can score thirty on

571
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: any night against any team. And I know there's a

572
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, I know Kansas has a

573
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: massive fan base, but I think there's a general population

574
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: college basketball casual fans who don't know who is Um.

575
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: He's definitely like a first team All American guy that

576
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: can you know, steal the show. I would say, uh

577
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: in March madness, you know a guy like so it

578
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 1: was what Johnny Jusing did last year, right there you go.

579
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Johnny Jusing emerged on the scene as a twenty five

580
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: points per game score in his five tournament games. He

581
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: had that in him, but he hadn't really done it

582
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: consistently throughout the course of the year. So there's always

583
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: somebody like that. Another guy would throw into that, and

584
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: I hate, I hate keep going back to the Big Ten.

585
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: But E. J. Ladell for Ohio Ohio State Big is

586
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: a matchup problem. I don't know how good A J.

587
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Ladell will be in the NBA, I really don't, but

588
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: I can tell you this Jason in college, he's a

589
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: matchup nightmare because two d and thirty pounds, he's just yeah,

590
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: get him on the block, it's over. Yeah. You can't

591
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: put a really big guy on because he's got perimeter skills.

592
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Will just take him outside on the perimeter, go around

593
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: him or shoot threes. You can't put a little guy

594
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: on him because they'll just post him. Mops. He's one

595
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: of those matchup nightmares. Yeah, I I love those stories. Um,

596
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: all right, without pitting you down on Baylor, Uh, they

597
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: win the title last year and I don't I don't know, Casey,

598
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: there's like not a lot of talk about Baylor nationally.

599
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Well, so they started

600
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: fifteen and O and they were the number one team

601
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: in the country, so there was some talk about them,

602
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: and then they took on some losses. They lost back

603
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: to back, uh back to back games against Kansas and

604
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: Missouri this year, and then they kind of fell off

605
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the national Radar. They fell out of the top ten

606
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: in the country, and so people stopped really talking about

607
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: paying attention. Yeah, which happens. Um Drew was shaking all

608
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the like he's not a good coach. Right that that's

609
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: officially out the window Scott Drew's history, you know, I mean,

610
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: we win a title like I mean, and to be

611
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: back with their third in Ken Palm right now. Yeah,

612
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's uh. They're a bona fide perennial power.

613
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no other way around there, like Gonzaga. Now, um,

614
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: Baylor is on that level too. But the other thing

615
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: is so um, I think the key to Baylor is

616
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: James A Kin Joe. If you don't know who James

617
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Joe is the Arizona kid, right. He started his career

618
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: at Georgetown, playing for Patrick Georgia. Yeah, An he transferred

619
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: last year. He was at Arizona for one year with

620
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Sean Miller, and then when Miller was fired and Tommy

621
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Lloyd came aboard, James was like, I'm gonna go somewhere

622
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: else and finish my career. He goes to Baylor and

623
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: has been really good. He can be kind of a

624
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: roller coaster point guard though, like if he can turn

625
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: the ball over a ton, but when he's right, when

626
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: he makes good decisions and when he shoots the ball

627
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: really well. This this Baylor team is is really good. Now,

628
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Baylor did lose their starting center Jonathan Chamwa Chachua. He

629
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: blew out. He blew out. His knee was really ugly,

630
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: gross injury. Um. It was about two weeks ago, um,

631
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: and I I thought they might be in trouble. But

632
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: they have depth, they have flow. Thamba is now stepped

633
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: into his starting role there. Um. I mean this Baylor

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Speaker 1: team is. Yeah, they've been under the radar just a

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Speaker 1: bit over the last like two weeks, but I think

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Speaker 1: more the Providence of friars Um. Maybe the story that

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Speaker 1: nobody's talking about on the East Coast. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean twenty four and three, but Casey, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the metrics. They're not a great They're

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Speaker 1: not great at anything. They're not top twenty in offense

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Speaker 1: or defense. They they're not a great three point shooting team, Like,

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Speaker 1: what do they? How the hell are they twenty four

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Speaker 1: and three? Yeah, they've won uh ten of their eleven

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Speaker 1: games that are decided by twos sessions or less, which

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Speaker 1: is truly Think about that for a second and how

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Speaker 1: difficult that is to do. UM and Ken Palm Ken

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Speaker 1: Palm dot com, the analytics website. They have their UM

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Speaker 1: formula for luckiest teams and Providence is number one and wow,

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Speaker 1: And you know a lot of a lot of haters

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Speaker 1: will point to that and be like, yeah, they're so lucky.

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Speaker 1: They're so lucky. I dare you to watch this team

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Speaker 1: night in and night out. Now, I will admit there

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Speaker 1: is some luck, right, A shot goes in, a shot

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Speaker 1: doesn't go in, whatever, they get a foul call, they

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Speaker 1: don't get a foul call. Okay, So some of that

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Speaker 1: is they are getting the benefit of some bounces. Okay.

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Speaker 1: But if you win ten of eleven to possession or

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Speaker 1: less games, you're doing something right. And Ed Cooley is

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Speaker 1: their head coach. He's just so calm under pressure. I

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Speaker 1: love the way he talks to his men in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Jared Biningham is their point guard, A very good decision

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Speaker 1: maker and a fifth year senior. They also have their

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Speaker 1: starting centers Nate Watson, also a fifth year senior. Oldest

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Speaker 1: teams in the country. But to your point, Jason, their metrics,

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Speaker 1: like ken Pom has them overall, is the thirty ninth

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Speaker 1: best team in the country, their top ten in America,

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Speaker 1: the records twenty four and three. How can they be

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Speaker 1: that low? So let's say they win the Big East,

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Speaker 1: do you think they get like, can they be a

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Speaker 1: top four seed? Oh? They will guaranteed be a top

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna probably be overseated given how their metrics

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Speaker 1: pan out correct, Yes, they will be the one team

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Speaker 1: that you will be like, Okay, hey, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a three seed. But every other metric says that this

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Speaker 1: team is not elites, Like they're not shooting the ball. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: they're the sixtieth best defestive team in America. So will

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Speaker 1: you feel good about advancing them far in your bracket?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And and again I don't want to

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Speaker 1: put too much stock in Ken Pompa Casey's you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the the projections for their scores and like

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Speaker 1: they're spot on with so much I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: in his formula. One more to the Tennessee balls and

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Speaker 1: Rick Barnes like they're good again. They got great athletes

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Speaker 1: on the wing, and I just every year it feels

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Speaker 1: like I'm not bashing Rick Barnes, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: how good of a coaching is in March Casey. I

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Speaker 1: mean like, um, I think it's a good coach, Um,

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Speaker 1: And I trust this Tennessee team more than I trusted

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Speaker 1: Tennessee team. And the reason why it is offensively. So

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Speaker 1: last year's Tennessee team was awesome defensive. You remember they

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Speaker 1: were a top ten defensive team like pretty much all year.

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Speaker 1: This this year's team's top five again. Um, Offensively, I

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00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: think this team is way more dangerous. H Kennedy Chandler

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Speaker 1: is our freshman point guard, one of the fastest players

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Speaker 1: you will see with the ball in his hands. But

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Speaker 1: then they flank him with Santiago Vescobi. He was like

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Speaker 1: a it was a vet. I think it's a junior um.

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Speaker 1: Zakai Ziegler is another freshman who's who's kind of grown

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Speaker 1: up in his role a little bit. Um, but they

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Speaker 1: have they have versatility that a lot of other teams

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Speaker 1: wish they had Josiah Jordan James, John Fulkerson. These are big, strong,

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Speaker 1: rugged front court guys. There's not a lot that Tennessee

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Speaker 1: doesn't have. I understand that you have some trepidations because

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Speaker 1: of Rick Barnes return history, but I mean they're playing

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Speaker 1: well in the SEC. Like they had their bumps early,

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Speaker 1: but nice win over Kentucky recently. Alright, so Casey is there,

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Speaker 1: Um you know I don't. It's okay. How about this.

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Speaker 1: I give you Gonzaga Kentucky Duke or you can have

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Speaker 1: the field to win the title. Who you got? I

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Speaker 1: think I'll take Gonzaga Kentucky in Kentucky and my two

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Speaker 1: favorite teams. So those are the two teams that I

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Speaker 1: think are most equipped to win a national championship. If

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Speaker 1: I could, um really have my way, I would have

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Speaker 1: Gonzaga play Arizona in either a Final four or a

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Speaker 1: national championship game. As a West Coast guy, Jason, that

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Speaker 1: to me is a fantastic and fascinating storyline. Tommy Lloyd,

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Speaker 1: the head coach for Arizona and his first year ever

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Speaker 1: as a head coach, is going to have Arizona as

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Speaker 1: a number one seed. If things go well, they closed

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Speaker 1: the season out well, and he spent twenty years as

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Speaker 1: an assistant coach for Tom for for Mark few to

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Speaker 1: have those two meet and they play so similarly too,

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Speaker 1: it's it's creepy. It's really eerie how similar the style,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense because they're both from the same program, right,

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Speaker 1: But like, it would just be so much fun to

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Speaker 1: watch them play, and you have to do you have

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Speaker 1: reservations about how you know, they're kind of led by freshman.

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Speaker 1: Now they got some NBA freshman but the kid, um,

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Speaker 1: they're not freshman technically, so they're sophomores. Um, so what

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Speaker 1: Arizona does? I know, Like you're give me a weird look.

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Speaker 1: Arizona is one of those teams who lists their second

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Speaker 1: year players as freshman due to the COVID year, but

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Speaker 1: do not Arizona does not play a true freshman. Huh yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's listed on the roster. Is uh the six

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Speaker 1: six wing guy? But Thorny and he's awesome, mathe Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's incredible. Um, he's a future pro probably a

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Speaker 1: lottery pick, right, Yeah, it's definitely a lot of pick

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Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, But so tell your audience not to

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Speaker 1: go to the website and look at interesting. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: they look like an inexperienced team. Well, so why does

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Speaker 1: Arizona do that? None of them have played an NC

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Speaker 1: double A tournament games. That's the one. It is the

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Speaker 1: one thing that you could say, all right, hey, you

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Speaker 1: know these guys haven't been on the big stage before.

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Speaker 1: But um, you know the reason why is because Sean

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Speaker 1: Miller when he was there and when he was five,

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00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: a lot of guys left, right, So James and Kinjo

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Speaker 1: I already mentioned Terrell Brown, who's the leading score in

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve conference place for Washington. Now, he was

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Speaker 1: on Arizona's roster last year. They kind of had a

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Speaker 1: Max exodus. A lot of the young core stayed around

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Speaker 1: and uh they're playing well yeah alright, well Casey, good

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Speaker 1: good luck calling the games. Obviously, March Madness will be fun.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the birthday, you know, if you can before the

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Speaker 1: tournament begins. Thanks a lot, Man appreciate Jasin Sea Man