WEBVTT - Whistling! 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:10.400 Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.640 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.079 Chuck and Jerry's here too. And it's become clear to 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.120 me that I used the slide whistle on the wrong episode. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.680 This is stuff you should know. Oh, would they have 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.680 gotten annoying to you? 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:27.960 I think the slide whistle work perfect. And this isn't 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:28.920 about slide whistles. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.680 No, it's about whistle whistles, which means your mouth with 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.200 your lips pursed. That's right, So let's just go out 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.120 of the gate. For the three people who don't know 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.680 what whistling is, Whistling is the act of making a 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:47.480 sound by forcing air through your mouth through a narrow passage, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.159 typically with your lips pursed. And that is actually a 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.280 specific kind of whistling, as we'll see, called pucker whistling. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.040 There's other kinds, but that is by far the most 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.800 common form of whistling. If you can move your tongue 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.000 a little bit, you can start to get pretty good 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.200 at whistling. One other thing to start set everything up. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.520 There is no genetic basis for not being able to whistle. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.479 It's just a lack of practice. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.200 Do you whistle right out of the gate, let's hit 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:20.200 me with that info. You bet, I don't mean. Can 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.800 you whistle? Yes? 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:29.200 I find myself more going like that, Like I'm not 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.360 trying to do a song. I don't even know I'm 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.399 doing it. I like realize I'm doing it as I'm 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.600 doing it. It's just something to occupy the space around me. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.479 I guess. Okay, what about you, Chuck? Do you whistle? Chuck? 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.000 Are you a whistler? 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.360 Yeah? I whistle sometimes. I wonder if I annoy people 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:47.960 by whistling. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.440 Oh, you've never annoyed me by whistling. I can tell 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:50.680 you that. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.800 But back when, you know, in the early days of 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.160 HowStuffWorks dot com, when we worked in a big office 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.720 with you know, fifty people, I used to wonder about 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.640 stuff like that, like, well, yeah, you know, am I 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.400 whistling around the office? Is that annoying to people? Kind 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.760 of like remember the guy who walked around in his 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.800 sock feet? Oh my god? 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.360 Why did that bother me so much? 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.600 Because he walked around in office with sock feet, including 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:17.959 the bathroom. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:22.680 Yes, including the bathroom. That's why urinoal in socks it was. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.320 I mean, I know that that's just objectively wrong. But 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.720 I don't the rest of it. I never understood why 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:28.720 it bothered me so much. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.839 But you just you don't do that. You don't do that, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:31.320 that's why. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.040 But you're also not supposed to whistle around the office 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:34.960 to FYI. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.560 Yeah, and I think I literally kind of was like, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.640 I probably shouldn't do that around here, because that was 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.080 the first office job I ever had. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.240 I mean, like, I know for a fact I've noticed 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.359 you whistling before, but I can tell you it's never 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:48.440 bothered me. Ever. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.360 I appreciate it. I'm a pretty good whistler, so I 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:52.720 like to whistle songs and things. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.080 You are a very good whistler. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.079 I appreciate that. So well, you know, maybe I'll try 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.400 a little bit out here and there. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.680 Jerry whistles too. You just can't hear it. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.440 Oh she's whistling right now. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:04.400 Way to go, Jerry, you're champ. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.160 So you mentioned the pucker whistle. That's the most common, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.760 you know, whistle that most people walk around doing. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:12.680 That's this. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.480 That that's right. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.920 I'm going to try to demonstrate them all, so you 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.200 go through them all, demonstrate them. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.200 Okay, that sounds great. Okay, my good friend Eddie whom 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:27.200 you've met before. He does what's called the palettal whistling, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.920 which is sh that's right, except it makes a whistle 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.160 sound right, and that is when you put the tongue 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.400 on the roof of your mouth. I can't do it. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.120 Eddie does it really well, so it's always kind of fun. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.920 And I'm a big it's just a nostalgia last for 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.920 me when whenever Eddie breaks out the pal little whistle? 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.800 Can he spit like that too? You know how you 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.440 can do like a little little thing of spit like 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.800 really fast from your mouth by by touching your palette 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:57.360 with your tongue. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.240 Oh oh, gleaking? 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.120 Yes, can you do that? 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:03.640 I can gleek, but I don't know. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.760 If Eddie can, well, then I'll bet you could pallette 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.960 whistle and I can't. All right, what's the next? 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:16.240 The old finger whistle? It's like uh yeah, except again caveat, 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:17.520 except it makes a whistles sound. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:17.880 Okay. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.560 I've never been able to do this. There are different methods, 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.600 number of fingers where you place them, and stuff like that. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.960 The old taxi whistle, that's a that's a finger whistle. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.560 Usually I've always been jealous of people who could really 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.200 bust out a loud finger whistle. I could never do it. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:40.400 Are you jealous the finger whistlers? I mean that's very 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:41.920 low on the scale, but sure a little bit. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.479 Ok, all right, I mean they're putting their fingers in 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.039 their mouths, yeah, and walking around New York City. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.160 Yep. That's really loud, though. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.680 But if you could just Pallett whistle, you can usually 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.960 whistle as loud as a finger whistle. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.640 In my oh, aren't very loud. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.840 It's like this right? 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.240 Oh no, no, I think you're thinking of two different things. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.440 Are you thinking of a palette whistle as like a 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.040 taxi call without fingers? 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.440 Uh? Yeah, it's the kind of where like your your 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.039 lips kind of press back in your in your face 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.200 a little bit and your teeth cairt explosed and your 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.919 tongue goes up to the roof of your mouth. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.080 I think we have a different version of palette whistle. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.440 Then maybe I can get Eddie Eddie to record his 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:27.560 Pallett whistle. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.279 So I know what you're talking about. Then I've seen 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.000 video of that. Yes, it's coming. It's almost like it 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.520 comes from the back of the throat. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.680 Yeah, I mean I wish I could do it. When 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.799 I try to do what he does, it's just nothing 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.360 comes out. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.280 At all palattle whistling except to mix this sound. 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.320 And then there's throat whistling, which is a very strange 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.919 looking whistle because your mouth is open. You're you're not 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.200 you don't have like a puckered purse lip. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.080 Oh, that's what I'm thinking of. I don't know what 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:58.279 palattal whistling is. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.000 If it's not, you know what, I'll at the very 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.200 least I'll get Eddie to send me an audio thing 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:04.960 that I'll text you. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.279 Okay, can you text him now? Sure, I'll talk you. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:11.640 Just text for a minute. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.840 For the throat whistling. I would want to recommend did 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.919 you watch those videos I sent you? By any chance 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.760 I didn't, chuck, I'm sorry. Oh man, that's all right. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.360 You have to though, you owe it to yourself, okay, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:28.520 because they're just go to YouTube and type in Ralph Whistler, guys, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.679 I guess g I E. S. E. On Kelly and Company, 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.440 nineteen eighty four, and just witness the beauty of this 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.320 guy Ralph doing his throat whistling to Georgia on my mind, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.400 which got about a half a million, five hundred and 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.479 fifty thousand views. Then right afterward, in fact, you'll be 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.120 proddedge to watch the next video, which is best singer 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:57.000 ever Whistler redub which is somebody who redubbed him with 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.840 his strange facial movements. As actual we won't even call 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.920 it singing, but other mouth noises. That has gotten two 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.440 and a half million views. Nice and I watched it 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.040 seven times a day and laughed just as hard every 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.640 single time. It's man, got funny, It's amazing. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.440 Okay, I'll definitely watch it, so Chuck. We can't actually 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.880 say when whistling started. Some people say that it actually 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.920 was a proto language, which I find is absolutely fascinating totally. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:30.160 We do know that the that well back into prehistory 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:36.000 and the Neolithic Age, people were using maybe even Neanderthals too. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.480 We're using bone whistles, the grimmest kind of whistle, which 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.960 would indicate that we were already familiar with whistles. We 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:47.200 probably had figured out how to whistle by then. There's 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:52.920 a bioacoustician named Julian Meyer who says the muscles it 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.560 takes the amount of brain power it takes to whistle 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.760 is so much less than it is to speak and 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.800 to use words and creative vocabulary like that. That it 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.440 just makes sense that we would have evolved to whistle first, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.040 at the very least, to get somebody's attention, right, and 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.360 then once you have somebody's attention, you want to express 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:17.480 an idea that just inherently follows. It's almost inevitable that 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.760 we whistled before we learn to speak. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.280 Yeah, there have been legitimate whistling languages discovered on every 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.320 continent on planet Earth. And then once we move on 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.560 to recorded history, we know for sure that Greeks and 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:36.040 Romans and ancient Greece and Rome whistled because they whistle 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.760 like to jeer from the audience, like people still do 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.240 in Europe, at least Europe. I'm sure they do that 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.120 in other countries, but we boo here in the United States, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.320 But in the UK and Europe they whistle when they 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.520 want to express displeasure. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:56.160 Yeah. There was also so Herodotus in his histories described 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.720 a community in Ethiopia that lived in caves and spoke 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.120 like and you know the term troglodites. These were the 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.720 original troglodites. Yeah, and it's been taken her Auditus has 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.080 to be taken with a grain of salt because he 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.400 himself was relying on probably a lot of unreliable sources. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.640 He sounds like somebody who would have really bought the 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.080 stuff that he read on Facebook and put a lot 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.800 of stuff onto Facebook if you were alive today. But 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.720 that doesn't mean that there was not like some kernel 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.000 of truth. And this the Troglodites who spoke like bats 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.720 has been taken to mean that they had a whistle 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.440 based language. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.439 Yeah, they were all over the place. People just took 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.760 took whistling and his buddies, Hey, look at this mastad 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.240 On over here. Let's take this thing down. He says 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:46.080 that all in a whistle. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.479 He's like And also, have you heard the new Mastodon album? 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.360 By the way, shout out to Mastodon. I was just 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.680 the for the second year running the Celebrity Judge quote 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.640 unquote Celebrity Judge and the Chicken Wing contest for the 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.720 Kirk with Spring Fling, and one of the other judges 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.880 was Braun, the drummer of Mastadon Awesome, and he was 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:07.920 a super cool dude. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.839 Oh I'm sure, how could you not be if you're 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:11.480 in Mastadon. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.040 Yeah, we'd said there and ate chicken wings together and 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.679 very seriously reviewed them and rated them. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.680 So I'm sure you'd take that seriously. I would too. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.840 I would be very disappointed if you just took that 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:23.640 as like a lark. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:28.440 Yeah, sixteen chicken wings, wow, lucky. Yeah. Well I didn't 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.720 eat them all. I ate a house to like four 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.400 of them, and then most of the rest were just 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:33.000 a bite or two. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.160 Okay. Do you like smoked wings like you know the 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:38.200 Fox Brothers ilk? 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.400 Yeah, smoke. I have a love hate with smoke on 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.080 any food it can it's okay, But the same with mezcal. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.360 I like it and just little bits and blasts. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.920 M uh yeah, I'm with you. Uh. With the smoked 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.280 wings though, that's that's kind of what I'm on right now. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.200 I can eat a lot. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:59.600 Of those those. I mean they the Fox Brothers wings 0:10:59.600 --> 0:10:59.920 are great. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.079 Well, nothing compliments and is complimented by Ranch more than 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.360 a smoked wing. To me, It's even better than like 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.280 a regular straight ahead buffalo wing. As far as the 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.199 Ranch combo works, I. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.440 Don't need buffalo anymore at all. I'm a dry lemon 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.040 pepper guy. Oh all right, These. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.320 Days, I always associate that with sports betting and watching 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.200 like sports on Sunday for some. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.760 Reason, well, I do a bit of both. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.719 Speaking of dude, have you seen Sorry to all the 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.079 people who are new to every podcast, have you seen 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.560 the roast of Tom Brady? 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.240 Oh? I saw parts of it, but there's no way 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.880 I could sit through that in earnest, it's so bad. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.880 Like the stand up comedians and some of the podcasters 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.240 did pretty well, Nicky Glazer won the night easily, handily, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.360 but when you finally get to Tom Brady's part, it 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.400 like like it's unwatchable. You just can't you can't look. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:01.400 It's so it's so bad. He's like so going with 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.280 the joke of how he's the greatest that it becomes 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.920 kind of painfully clear that he's actually being dead serious 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.680 at that point. It's not joking at all. It's really tough. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.280 I would actually recommend just watching like the first minute 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.600 and a half of it and see if you can 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:16.320 make it that far. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.959 I don't know if I could, but shout out on 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.200 the key Glazer one time stuff you should. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.079 Know listener at least yeah, that one time. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.240 I mean, I don't know if she still is. In 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.640 other words, I know what you mean you're just joking. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.120 All right, Can we get back to whistling. Yes, that's 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.760 all my fault. We can move past the history. People 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.240 get what's going on here. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.480 Well, we need to talk about when whistling was like 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.160 a big deal though in history. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.000 Yeah, that's what I was getting to. Okay, we're talking Initially, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.040 you know that ancient history stuff was like hey, look 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.840 over here, Hey what should we do? Hey, we're communicating. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.960 But if you're talking about whistle why you work? Musical 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.960 whistling and other words, it's kind of tougher to trace 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:04.640 that history because there's nothing, you know, there's no fossil 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:09.760 that would indicate anything. But Linda Hamilton, who is a 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:15.760 historian and loves whistling, has definitely referenced whistlers in the 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:20.040 sixteen hundreds. My bet is that it goes back even 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.720 further because if people learn to whistle, I believe people 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:28.080 are inherently musical, then people are, in my mind, whistling 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.120 for enjoyment and pleasure. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.720 Pleasure. Yeah. Well, even in the Canterbury Tales, Chaucer says 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.120 the young squire spends his days singing and whistling. So 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.199 I mean, yeah, that's yes, I agree, I think the 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.680 first time somebody realized they could whistle, it immediately kicked 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:51.199 off the human I guess pastime of whistling for pleasure. Yeah, absolutely, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.440 so yeah, they were like, hey over here, Hey, I 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.240 like that a lot. I'm just going to keep saying 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.320 hey over here a bunch of times. That was the 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:59.560 first time it happened. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.280 The first song written by a whistle was called hey 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:02.880 over here. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.400 So there were actual songs. There were professional whistlers late 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.000 nineteenth century vaudeville that makes sense, like Vaudeville of George. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.280 They had so many acts doing so many different things. 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.440 Of course there were whistlers, but it caught on, and 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.880 in the first pretty much half of the twentieth century, 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.920 there were a lot of whistling acts, whistling performers. They 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.760 have names like Ronnie Ronalde, Muzzy Marcellino, just perfect names 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.920 like that, and they were big enough that I think 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.400 in nineteen forty nine Ronnie Ronalde sold out Radio City 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:40.240 Music Hall for ten weeks and he was a whistler. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.400 Every night for ten weeks. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.520 Yes, yeah, not just like once and then ten weeks later, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.400 I mean like every night for ten weeks. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.440 Yes, that's a six thousand cap venue. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:50.880 He was a whistler. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.880 Oh man, I mean that just so was how big 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.760 it was. It was usually people. I mean, if you 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.240 had a whistling act, you were doing one or you 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.200 were doing usually both of two things, which is whistling 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.600 songs and things and then mimicking song birds. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.960 Yeah, and that's still a thing. I watched Pucker Up, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.480 the documentary on whistling. Did you see it? 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:13.320 I did. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.440 It's great almost in the way that it starts out too. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.000 I was like, this is indistinguishable from an episode of documentary. Now, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.800 like the first half hour, it really was not tell it. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.400 Apart, Yeah, except there was no Fred Armiston her Yeah. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:30.920 But I was just waiting for him to pop up. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.480 It was like that go on. But it's a really 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.760 really sweet, charming documentary and all the people involved are 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.560 pretty great. But one of the first people, I think, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.160 the first whistler they introduce you to a guy named 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:47.600 Joe Siddano. He as doing bird impressions out in the 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.440 woods and the birds are responding to him. It's really 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.600 neat to see. You're like, wow, this guy's communing with 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.040 the birds right now out in the world. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.840 Yeah, he's talking better watch what you say though, buddy, Yeah, 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:01.160 for sure. So it was going on pretty well, whistling 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.320 very very big in vaudeville, like you said, in a 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.240 popular act just period, so much so that there was 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.120 an academy. In nineteen oh nine, the Agnes Woodward, California 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.960 School of Artistic Whistling opened up, and she had some 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:19.240 pretty high profile clients, including John Wayne. I guess wanted 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.320 to learn how to whistle really well, Pat Boon, Bing Crosby. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.680 If you're in a Western, you better know how to whistle. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.560 That's my guess why John Wayne needed to learn at. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.360 Least whistle for your horse at the very least. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.120 Sure. Yeah, your horse loves to hear you whistle. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.600 That's a funny joke though in a Western, it's like 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.120 the cowboy who can't whistle probably feels pretty bad about himself. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.760 Probably that reminds me of the singing horse in Top Secret. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:47.520 Oh yeah, that was just on an episode of Scott 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.280 hasn't seen, so that's fresh in my mind. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.840 Oh okay, good, So you remember the singing Horse. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.960 I remember that, and that it just made me remember 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.600 how funny that movie is. It is really is. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.680 So I think you were a kind of getting to 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.200 this point where all of a sudden, almost overnight, every 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.880 whistling act just went away. The world said, we're done 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.760 with whistling. Stop whistling, And very interestingly, whistling is like 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.959 not just a musical act, but just kind of as 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.200 a pastime, something that people just generally did. Went away 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.000 at the same time too, And I saw that it 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.560 was chalked up by some people to the advent of 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.920 the transistor radio, and then eventually the walkman and the 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.200 iPod I think it was somebody on Pucker Up kind 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.919 of made this case. And it really makes sense because 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.359 one of the reasons people would whistle before is because 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.440 you're just keeping yourself occupied, you're keeping yourself entertained, you're 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:46.840 creating music for yourself to enjoy. And that need for 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.240 that went away when we were able to carry around 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.399 things that could do that for us, starting with the 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:53.399 transistor radio. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.240 Yeah, for sure. It also had a bad reputation, even 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.320 in certain instances in the eighteen hundreds in the UK 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.720 there were stores that banned whistling because it was used 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.480 as a sort of language basically between pickpockets and thieves 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:14.680 to warn each other. It is still sort of sort 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.280 of a trophy shorthand for someone that's up to no good, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.000 usually somebody trying to play it off as if they 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.800 are carefree. Oh yeah, like if you were, Yeah, if 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.040 you were doing a sketch, a comedy sketch about a shoplifter. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.679 Every time the shop owner looks over at the shoplifter, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.800 they would probably like look up at the sky, and 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.480 that would kill absolutely. And it's just become sort of 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:45.040 a trope. Is a shorthand again, just another sort of 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:46.840 weird use for whistling. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.320 So it's just like roller skating. You remember how like 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.919 roller skating was huge in the late seventies and all 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.320 of a sudden, just overnight, it went away, But like 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.879 Black culture was like, nope, we're still roller skating, and 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.320 roller skating continue to be a thing. That kind of 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.600 happened with whistling. The world was like, we're done with whistling, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.919 but a subset of people were like, no, we're going 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.600 to keep whistling and kept the dream alive of whistling 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.320 over the years. And I say, we take a break 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.119 and we come back and talk about a few contemporary whistlers. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:47.240 Let's do it, okay, Chuck, So we're talking about people 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.360 who whistle today sometimes for a living. There was an 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.040 artist in the nineties named Marge Carlson who whistle a 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.320 lot of saccharine Christian songs and was known as America's 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.480 Sweetheart of bird songs. She was quite a good whistler, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:06.240 but she had albums like she released albums where rather 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.080 than singing, it was all instrumental, and one of the 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.600 instruments was her whistling. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.680 Yeah, and that's still a thing. I'm sure you looked 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.040 at these videos, Josh, but there is big things to Anna, 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.359 by the way, who put this together for us, very cool, 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.960 robust article. But she found Molly Lewis, who is a 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:33.480 contemporary professional whistler, just a wonderful whistler, releasing that She 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.880 has an EP called The Forgotten Edge. She performs live 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:41.800 in concert. There's a very fun YouTube with Molly on 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.280 one of those Sunday morning shows. 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.880 I can't remember, yes, Sunday Morning. It was good little segment, Yeah. 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.639 Very good little segment, like you said, and she just 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.920 Molly just seems terrific, very enthusiastic about whistling. 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.040 Yes, she's a whistler, but at the same time she's 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.680 like bewildered that she's actually making a career of whistling, 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:02.080 like she's able to do that. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.159 Yeah, she's kind of laughing about it, and not like 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.159 in a put down way. You just kind of like, 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:07.960 I'm good at this weird thing and it's just kind 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:08.399 of crazy. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:08.800 Yeah. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:09.439 Yeah. 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:14.160 She's got some contemporaries too, a lot of I think 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.040 actually Molly competed too, a lot of the people who 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.200 you would have heard of as whistlers at least now 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.280 if you really dig into whistling, you'll end up hearing 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.880 about him like Chris Olman, Yurt or sorry hert Chatrow, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:32.159 who's just an amazing person. Apparently they competed in like 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.040 the International Whistling Finals, And as you kind of start 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.200 to dig into the world of whistling, some names kind 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.680 of bubble up to the top. And that's because they're 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:45.400 essentially competitive whistlers. There's whistling competitions that are held over 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.760 the years, and some people who are just the best 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.959 of the best at whistling will compete. So in addition 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.479 to Molly Lewis, you'll run across the guy named Chris Olman, 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.320 who's a champion whistler, a guy named hert Chatrow, who's 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.240 another champion whistler, and they're just amazing and if you 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.320 if you listen to them, it's like, especially if you 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.479 just just go watch Pucker Up the documentary. I think 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:09.920 it's even on YouTube for free. Yeah, like you'll start 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.639 to realize that people have their own style, their own techniques. 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.480 It's not just like there's one way to whistle. People 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.479 have figured out a bunch of different ways to whistle 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.879 in different combinations of those ways to whistle, and they're 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:22.840 keeping it alive. 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.600 Like I said, that's right. I mean, Sammy Hagar may 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.280 say there's only one way to rock, but he will 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.000 also say there's a lot of ways to whistle. 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.160 That's right. And he said for those about to rock, 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.480 we salute you, and. 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.840 We salute Sammy because he just got a star on 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:39.840 the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:41.160 Oh really, congrats. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.719 Yeah, way to go, Sammy. So if you are a 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.560 great whistler and you, you know, maybe compete in these 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.800 competitions and you're like, well, not popular enough to get 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.160 my album out there, like Molly Lewis, you probably could 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.879 find a home. It sirked us Ola because they have 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.159 had quite a few whistlers over the years perform with 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.640 them as circus is a bit of a modern day vaudeville, 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.159 and they have all kinds of fun things like that. Yeah, 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:07.840 we go every year here in Atlanta. It's a nice 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.639 fun tradition for the fam. You can also whistle on 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.400 songs and soundtracks. Molly Lewis whistled on that Barbie soundtrack. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.200 That's so great. Of course, who can forget the good, 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.800 the bad, and the ugly Sergio Leoni's famous famous spaghetti 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:30.919 Western in which Alessandro Alessandroni did that very sort of 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.399 iconic whistle for that movie. 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.440 Oh, it's iconic for sure. I mean it signifies anytime 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:42.000 somebody is you're suddenly like potentially in danger because an 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.399 extraordinarily capable killer has showed up? 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:46.480 Is that? 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.160 I don't know if I'd described that. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:52.240 Correctly, No, like if the s was about to go down? 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:53.639 Yeah, I guess so. 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.640 And as a refresher, of course, Clinty Sort was a good, 0:23:57.720 --> 0:23:59.760 Lee Van Kleep was a bad and Eli Wallach was 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.080 the ugly anyway, I know, do you want to bust 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:04.960 that one out for us. 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:09.640 Like that? 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:10.720 Yeah? That was great. 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.040 I got another one too. There's actually a name you 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.199 know that whistling part where eld Driver is going to 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.240 kill the bride at the very beginning of Kill Bill 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:28.199 Volume one. Yeah, that song is called Twisted Nerve and 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.840 it's like the creepiest song you've ever heard in your life. 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.480 And it's from a nineteen sixty eight British thriller called 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.800 Twisted Nerve. You know the song I'm talking about. 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.840 I mean, i'd probably recognize that it's been wat since 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:39.520 I've seen that though. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.200 It's just creepsville. And for some reason, I think it's 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.840 because it's whistled in part is why it's creepy. It's 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:46.600 a creepy song. 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.720 All right, I'll have to check that out. You want 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:49.679 to take a stab at it her? 0:24:49.760 --> 0:25:03.080 Now? Sure you know the song? 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:05.280 No, but I feel like applauding. 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.879 I think we should overdub the actual song where I 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.520 start just impress everybody. 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.120 That'd be pretty great. Of course, we have to name 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.359 the fact that sometimes people will whistle as a character. 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.760 Let's say, if you're Woodstock in Peanuts, Jason Saranus did 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:29.240 the Woodstock whistles. And there's got any Percy Edwards who 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:33.399 is an animal impressionist and he voices whistles for a 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.680 lot of animated characters. 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.040 He also was the voice er I guess the character 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.480 of Fiz Gig in the Dark Crystal. Essentially that one 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.600 of the pets. 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.960 You just whistled, And what did I just whistle? What 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.080 did I do? I indicated something, didn't I? 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.000 You expressed emotion, in this case admiration or being impressed. 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.960 That's right, And what we're talking about is why people whistle. 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.359 And we've kind of poked around here and there. You 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.280 know first about the fact that there were languages and 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.960 stuff like that. If you lived in a mountainous region, 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.040 A very good way to communicate over a longer distance 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.280 like that and maybe give a direction is to have 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.639 some whistles that you agree on. Rather than try and 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.840 get someone to understand you saying you know, there is 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.040 wood over here, you might have a whistle that can 0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.920 indicate that a little more clearly. Over a great echoe. 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.080 Distance, there's also yes. And that's the whole point. Echoe 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.639 distances are basically the basis of what are known as 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:40.400 whistled languages, and they're a whistled version of your local language. 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.400 So like if you were saying there's wood over there, 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:48.160 you'd be like, right, and it actually works, like your 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.800 whistle can travel way farther. I saw something like five 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.440 hundred and fifty meters on like a nice spring day, 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.040 compared to forty meters for just speech one hundred and 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.679 twenty meters for shouting. One hundred and fifty meters is 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.440 what your whistle will carry. And there's like neurologists and 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.119 linguists are just fascinated by this, Like how could you 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:12.560 kind of imitate a sentence in whistle and the receiver 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.600 here's the sentence essentially in the same way as if 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.440 you spoke it. Like it goes to show like there's 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.280 a lot that you can strip out of speech and 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.440 still get the point across. That's what whistle languages to you. 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.240 Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, there's only 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.800 a handful of words that you might want to communicate. 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.040 You don't have to say, hey, we have firewood over here. 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.240 You just have to be able to say fire here 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.080 or or vegetable here, you know, And you can just 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:47.919 combine very rudimentary expressions to one another informative expressions. What 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.600 would you call that? Information? Sure, an informative expression. 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.679 I like that, actually, I like that a lot more 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:59.280 than dumb old information. Also, the other person says, what 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.280 kind of a right, the initial person says tomatoes, and 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.359 the second person goes tomatoes a fruit, and the initial 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.359 person says, is it? And it just keeps going on 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.560 like this. But imagine people doing that whistling. 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:15.080 Yeah, that'd be pretty great. We have the legendary wolf whistle, 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:20.399 which of course is the that originated they believe as 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.560 a call like shepherds was used. Would use that to 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:27.080 communicate that there are wolves about, and then that evolved 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:33.120 to something that you know, a street manhole repair cover 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.680 person in New York City might do to any woman 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:36.240 that walks by. 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.600 Still supposedly, in twenty eighteen, France banned wolf whistling with 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.760 a seven hundred and fifty euro fine on the spot. 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.600 You would be like, you need to pay this on 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.640 the spot, And that fascinating because it's a it's a 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.040 form of sexual harassment. 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:52.360 Yeah, look at France. 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.480 And I saw that the or furthest back that a 0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.760 wolf whistle in that context can be traced to is 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:02.680 that nineteen forty three Tech Savery cartoon Red Hot Riding Hood, 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.240 where the cartoon wolf is like watching Riding Hood like 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.880 perform on stage and just completely loses his mind. 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:14.200 Any wolf whistles, that's right, you know earlier the old uh? 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.920 I mean that can that one in itself can mean 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.920 several different things. You could be impressed by something and 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.840 go like that, or you could use it sort of 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.400 derisively if someone did something really embarrassing or bad at 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:28.800 a party. 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.480 True, you just made my stomach turn? Wow? Well yeah, 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.800 effect of a whistle in certain contexts. 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.920 And usually like an eye roll and something along with 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.200 it will help indicate that expression. But it's just really 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.840 fascinating how many different sort of you can express disappointment 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.400 or excitement, Like, how many different things you can do 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.479 from just a simple whistle. 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:49.680 Wonder where your car is? 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:56.200 Yeah, how would you do that? Wait? I thought that 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.160 was vegetable here. 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.200 And one other thing we have to talk about. We 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.840 mentioned communicating with animals, and we talked about this in 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:08.440 I think They're communicating with animals episode appropriately enough. The 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.120 greater honeyguide, which is a type of bird found in 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:16.800 Tanzania Mozambique that honey foragers. Human honey foragers have learned 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.800 to communicate to whistle to the greater honey guide to 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.040 get them to come out of the trees and lead 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:23.240 them to a beehive. 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:24.959 Amazing. 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:29.120 I love that. Communicating with animals, I think is just fantastic. 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.640 It's the best. Maybe we'll take a break in a sec, 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.520 but we'll go over some quick superstitions involving whistling, and 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.040 you know, instead of going through all these I think 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:45.479 they can all almost be lumped into. Whistling in a 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.080 certain place or at a certain time can bring bad luck. 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:57.480 It seems like Polynesia, Iceland, Hawaii, Mexico, Hong Kong, Scandinavia. 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.360 There's so many countries where if you whish, like I said, 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.400 in the wrong place or at the wrong time, it 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.400 can be a bad omen. It can mean there's ghosts about, 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:10.600 or there's spirits about, just sort of depending on when 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:11.479 and how it's done. 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.640 Yeah, usually it's whistling in the dark or after dark. 0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.120 Is a terrible idea in a lot of these cultures 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.840 around the world, and that the bad luck that you're 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.760 going to bring yourself is summoning spirits, demons, that kind 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.560 of thing who will snatch your soul essentially. But I 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.200 find it fascinating that whistling in the dark or whistling 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:34.760 after nightfall is like almost a universal superstition. 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:36.840 Well, I've never heard of that. 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.120 I hadn't either, but I mean all of the different, 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:45.880 like widespread cultures that share that belief, it suggests that 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.000 it's a very very very old superstition. 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:50.280 Yeah, for sure. 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:52.840 So you want to take that break. 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.040 Yeah, we'll take the break and we'll talk more about 0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:19.400 whistling and basically how you do it right after this. Okay, 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.600 all right, we're back with promise on teaching you to whistle. 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.440 It is very cute when you have a kid and 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:37.480 they try to learn to whistle and think and claim 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.160 that they are whistling when they are not. At least 0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.480 that was my case early on, when Ruby was trying 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.520 to learn how to whistle, she'd be like, Daddy, I 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:50.280 can whistle. Oh, let's hear it. And what can you 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.800 say besides hey, that sounds great, keep at it. 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:58.040 You were like, and gave Brad and iyrol exactly and 0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:59.000 she was like, what is that? 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.960 That is not even a whistle. But it does take 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.440 some time to learn how to whistle. Some people never learn, 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:10.880 but you can teach yourself. What you're doing basically is 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:15.320 creating your mouth becomes an instrument and becomes a chamber. 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:20.400 Basically where you are passing air from one small opening 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.960 from your lungs where the air comes from out of 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.959 your puckered lips. And you do that with the standard 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.920 pucker whistle by placing your tongue. And you might even 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.480 realize at first, I was like, wait a minute, the 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.560 tongu's not on the roof of your mouth. But the 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.720 tongue is absolutely at the roof of your mouth. The 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.240 very back of your tongue is at the very back 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.360 of the roof of your mouth, not the front of 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.760 your tongue. The front of your tongue is pressed against 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.720 the bottom row of teeth. And that's what you do. 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.960 You just start blowing. You form that O shape with 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.360 your mouth and just practice, practice. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.440 Practice, Yeah, it's really neat. It's called the Helmholtz chamber 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.000 that you're forming, which is a type of resonance chamber. 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.479 And because you're forcing air through a large from smaller 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.000 holes into a larger hole back into a smaller hole 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.560 and your tongue's there by moving your tongue, you can 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.640 adjust like all sorts of weird currents that you're creating 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.279 in the air pressure and that creates the vibrations that 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.560 make the sound, which is why when you move your 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.239 tongue around, you change notes and pitch and timber and 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.080 all sorts of crazy stuff. And that's whistling. That's pucker whistling. 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.879 That's what you're doing. I love it. I love that 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.480 there's like an explanation that makes total sense. It's deeply 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.640 satisfying to me. It would suck if we're like, we 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.399 still don't know how we whistle. I think I would 0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.160 lose my mind if that were the case. 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.320 Yeah, And you know, when we're saying things like moving 0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.040 your tongue around and the tongue is pressed against the 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.040 top of your mouth, like if you don't know how 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.200 to whistle, and that's frustrating you and you're just moving 0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.520 your tongue all over the place, it's they're very very 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.880 subtle movements. Like I said, I didn't even realize my 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.359 tongue was a against the back of the roof of 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.239 my mouth. I didn't either until I started whistling and 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:05.759 I was like, oh, wait a minute, I guess it is. 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:10.360 And then the back of my tongue, very subtly moving 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.279 back and forth against the back of the roof of 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.240 my mouth is what creates the different tones and pitches 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.319 and warbles and what have you. So it's not it's 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.000 just all just very, very slight movements. You're going to 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.200 frustrate yourself if you don't know how to whistle and 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.839 you're trying just all these crazy things with your tongue 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:28.319 in your mouth. 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:32.960 Yeah. Chris Olman, that champion professional whistler, he spoke with 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.279 Vox and said, I'll give you four steps to whistling. First, 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.120 form and O with the shape of your mouth. Second, 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.400 press the tip of your tongue to your teeth, usually 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.799 the bottom row of the inside of the bottom row 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.080 of your teeth. And then he said, blow gently. This 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.640 is important. You want your air to be focused and constant, 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.680 not necessarily hard. The hearder you blow, it's actually it 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.480 makes it more difficult to whistle. You just wanted to 0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.960 kind of blow concertedly but not hard. And then lastly, 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.879 you just keep practicing. And the way that he put 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:08.560 it is you practice each one of those steps in secession. 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.000 So you just keep forming an over and over until 0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:12.959 you've got the mouth position going. 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:17.640 Yeah. I feel good because my steps were exactly like 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:18.160 the pros. 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.480 Yeah, I guess you just intuitively knew how to whistle. 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.399 You just taught yourself like that? Is that what you're saying? 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:25.840 No, no, no, I'm saying the way I described it 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.560 how to do it was. Oh, of course he's. 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.440 A pro, So you're a pro podcaster. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.760 So should we talk a little bit about famous whistling stuff? 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:38.560 I think so. I mean, at the very least, we 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.120 have to talk about to Have and Have Not? 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.200 Uh yeah, the I mean take it away. 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.880 Then, okay. So there's an adaptation of a Hemingway novel 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:54.040 To Have and Have Not, with Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart, 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.960 and there's a very famous line where Bacaull says, you 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.319 know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:03.200 your lips together and blow. And that's probably the most 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:07.400 famous movie line about whistling ever. Uttered everybody knows that one. 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.440 Then you might not know a movie it's from or 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:13.000 who said it, but you've heard that line. Don't even 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:13.720 kid yourself. 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.280 The very famous whistle while you work from Stow White 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.960 and the Seven Doors. Of course, the Andy Griffith Show. 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.200 I remember very distinctly when my brother, when I first 0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.960 visited him in Los Angeles in the early nineties, he 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.080 drove me up and up and around, and finally I 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.319 came upon through the Hollywood Hills and I came upon 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.440 this weird lake and I was like, well, what is this? 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.520 And he just started whistling Andy Griffith and I was like, no, 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.480 He's like, yep, this is it. I knew it wasn't Mayberry, 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.359 but I didn't know really anything about how movies were 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.960 made at the time. Sure, so it was just surprising 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.400 to see that, Like the bat Cave is the Hollywood 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.880 Hills and the Andy Griffith Lake is right there. 0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:01.600 Yeah, same with the Hills in mash the Hills of Korea. Yeah, 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.560 there's a lot of songs too. We gotta we gotta 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.840 name check a few of these songs that have whistling 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.480 in them. Yes, there's walk like an Egyptian. It's a 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:18.880 good one, precisely, Okay, Yeah, demonstrate them all. Otis Redding's 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:22.720 Dock of the Bay very nice. 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.920 My whistle is very dry. Right now, I'm not at 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:26.520 my top. 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.000 Form Scorpions, Winds of Change. 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.280 I can't think of that one. I know that song? 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:31.880 What is it? 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.600 Oh, that's right, Yeah, it's good. There's also a bunch 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.040 of others. Me and Julio down by the schoolyard, Don't worry, 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:47.720 be Happy. Maybe the iconic whistling song, that one sudden 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.360 part where Axel Roses starts whistling in patience. 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.359 Yeah, that was on my list. That's a great whistle. 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.719 Lile, I Love You The Pixies song. 0:38:56.239 --> 0:39:00.000 Uh huh yeah, yeah, I'm going to see them next week. 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.359 You're going to see the Pixies yea where. 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.560 They're playing Chastain with Modest Mouse. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.879 Oh neat, So is Kim deal back with them yet? 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:09.160 Or no? 0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.399 Oh no, no, no, she's she's never coming back. 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:12.480 Oh okay. 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.799 And not only that, they kicked out pause their their 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.719 bass player that they've had for the past eight or 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:18.480 nine years. 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.479 Wow. We black Francis is going on a tear. 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.160 Huh yeah. I don't want to speak out of school 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.000 about why that may or may not have happened, but 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:30.320 it seems fairly disappointing from what I've read. Wow, yeah, 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.360 but I'm still going. 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.920 Uh, what else was there? Oh? Mariah Carey is a 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:36.760 famous whistler. 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:41.080 Well, eh, I know you're kidding around there. Mariah Carey 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:46.960 is noted for singing in what's called the flute register, 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.719 or the whistle register, which is a vocal register. It's 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.960 the highest one in the vocal register, higher than falsetto. 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:57.560 Even that very very few people can do. And they 0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.320 call it the whistle register or the flute register because 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.320 those pitches can generally only be made by flutes and 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.600 whistles rather than a singer like Mariah. 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.520 Once you hear it described as the whistle register, and 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.440 you hear those notes that she's sitting, you're like, oh 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.520 my god, that sounds exactly like a whistle. It's like 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.520 a perfect name for it. Yeah, but she's singing it. 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.520 It's absurd. Yeah, and all it should be essentially impossible 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.240 what she's doing. She's not the only one. Minnie Ripperton 0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:27.080 is another famous one who hit the whistles register. Yeah, 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:31.680 the famous seventies souls songstress. All those are the two 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.040 of that come to mind. Okay, but that's I'm just 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:36.640 impressed to no end by that. 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.239 What about the what's the name Aguilera. 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:42.400 Christina Aguilera. 0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.480 Yeah, Yeah, she's got that whistle range. I've heard it. 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.160 Does she really sure? Okay? 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.520 I think she's there's a couple of younger artists. Actually, 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.600 she's not one of the younger artists anymore either. 0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.839 Really No, we're pretty old chun Yeah. Uh. 0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:01.920 You mentioned those competitions. The I think granddaddy of them 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.560 all was shuttered unfortunately in twenty fourteen. It started nineteen 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.200 seventy three, the Louisbourg or louis Bourg, I don't know 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.480 how they say it. They're in North Carolina, and it 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.879 was a big one, and like I said, it shut 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.920 down in twenty fourteen, and I believe it's now just 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.520 its own event. It was part of the Louisbourg College 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.239 Folk Festival and now it's the National Whistlers Convention. So 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:27.560 it more morphed then shut down. 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.960 Yeah. I think it just became so popular people are like, 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.160 we want this to be its own event. Yeah. Somehow, 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.759 for some reason in twenty fourteen, that was the last one, 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.520 and that was the competition that's featured on Pucker Up 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.840 by the way. That National Whistler's Convention, I think it 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.760 was international. And then luckily a ficionaudo named Caroline Kaufman, 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.200 who said, hey, we're going to keep this going, created 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:56.600 the Masters of Musical Whistling competition in Pasadena, I think 0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.360 starting in twenty twenty. This year's and off year, but 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.440 the website promises it's coming back in twenty twenty five. 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:07.240 I love it. We should finish probably on some Guinness 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.600 records because my friend, if we want to take the 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.759 time and do a lot of paperwork, we could very 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.919 easily hold our own Guinness World record, and I kind 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.320 of think we should do it. What well, in twenty fourteen, 0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.640 there was a Guinness record for the most people whistling 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.239 at the same time at a single venue, and it 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.680 was a mere eight hundred and fifty three people at 0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:33.800 the Spring Harvest in the United Kingdom. We could bust 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.920 that record at one of our live shows very easily. 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.359 Oh yeah, we totally. That's a great idea. We got 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:41.920 to get that in the works chuck. 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.160 Yeah, which means who's going to do all the work, 0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.000 because we talked about about, oh god, how much work 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:50.640 it is, and most people give up because there's so 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.960 much work to officially get a record, you know verified. 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:59.360 This feels like a jerry job. Oh yeah, right, what 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.000 are we going to get everybody to whistle? 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.200 Oh goodness, I mean probably the stuff you should know 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:06.480 jingle theme. 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.440 Oh that's a good idea. I was thinking winds are 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.840 change and we would invite the escorpions to sing a 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:13.000 capella to the whistling. 0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:14.839 That's a good idea. We could just get up there 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:24.360 and go what were you doing? 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.560 I think it was a Christmas Carol. I don't know 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:28.319 which one though. 0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.640 Wow. All right, well, as long as no one does 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.640 what you do, we'll be just fine. 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.120 I thought we harmonized quite nicely. Oh okay, Well, let's 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.680 talk about some world records, because yes, I agree, we 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.120 should break that one, and we'll ask Jerry to help 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:43.600 us with that. 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:48.640 We could do that everywhere, but probably DC, that's right, 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.200 or Atlanta. Well, we'll get in Atlanta. 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.440 Yeah, we'll see. So in two thousand and four, this 0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.719 is insane. Okay, no, this isn't a saying. This is 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.960 still pretty impressive. Marco Ferrera in two thousand and four, 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:09.440 and then Luca Zoki or Zochi Nozoki in twenty fourteen. 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.680 They hold the record for the world's loudest whistle. They 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.759 each reached one hundred and twenty five decibels. Again, I 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.160 don't remember what episode we were in, but that's like 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:23.240 rock concert level decibels. I think it was our plane travel. 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:25.600 That's that is amazing. Yeah. 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:29.799 Yeah, uh, the one that really knocks my socks off, though, 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.280 Is the one that Joshua Lockert broke? 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.880 Oh the highest pitch? Yes, dude, I don't even know 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:36.520 what that means. 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.480 Okay, so he has the world record for the world's 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:44.080 highest whistle in frequency ten five hundred and ninety nine hertz, 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:50.200 which is almost eleven kill it hurts, right, go look 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:54.160 up on YouTube eleven kill it hurts tone. And I 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.360 played it and I had my volume up about halfway 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:00.640 and it was just silent, and I was like, is 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.480 this a prank? Is this a joke? Like somebody goes 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.800 around and puts up like videos like they're playing a tone, 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.560 but then doesn't put any sound to it. And I 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.200 turned it all the way up and only then could 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.640 I hear it. It was that high pitched. It was 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:16.799 almost above like audible range of hearing. That's how high 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.840 pitched it was. That guy did that with a whistle. 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.920 It was It's amazing. I didn't hear it, but just 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.600 from knowing what that tone sounds like, I can't imagine 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.880 a human being doing that. 0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.640 I'm playing it right. Oh wait, turn it. 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.680 Way up, but keep your wineglasses out of the room 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:35.960 because they will shatter. 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.080 I'm hearing nothing, right, turn it up. No, it's up 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:41.520 all the way. 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.960 Okay, well that's what I'm saying, like it's it's amazing, 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.239 Like I finally did hear it. I can confirm it's 0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:49.080 not just a prank. 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.200 Oh wait, I got it. Mm hm, oh my god. 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.880 Somebody whistled like that. 0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:57.680 That's crazy. 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.880 Yeah, we should just tell everyon We've been playing it 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.479 this whole time, just to prove our point. You can't 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:04.880 hear it because it's so high. 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.200 Occasionally, ever since Ruby was a kid, I'll be in 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:11.280 the car here and there, and I'll go, everyone knows 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.279 I can sing lower than the new human, and then 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.359 she'll try and sing lower, and then I'll go, and I. 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.720 Can sing higher than any Oh, that's pretty high. 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:22.360 She will always, but it's not singing, of course, and 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.000 then she responds back fussly and is also not singing. 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:29.120 Do any of you have the whistle register ability? 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:33.319 Uh? No? No? And I feel bad that I really 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.320 lamed out on whistling, because I'm a prettyod whistle. I 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.680 can do some good warbles and stuff, but of course 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.960 under the gun, I'm all dry mouth. It's just not happening. 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:41.600 Were you nervous. 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:51.000 Yeah that too. I'm not no, but I'm not even 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:51.880 getting any warble. 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.040 It's like a beautiful little lark flew into the room. 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.000 As soon as we had stop, I'll be whistling like 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.839 a songbird. I guarantee it. It just I'm locking up right now. 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.719 I've got that last whistle was great. I've got one 0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:05.200 little fact to share. 0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:05.840 Okay. 0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.640 So in one of the nineteen eighty four editions of 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.800 the British Medical Journal, there was a case study about 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.120 a patient who suffered a stroke and as they were recovering, 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.040 there are only way to communicate. They couldn't talk. They 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.239 had an elated mood. I saw it, described it so 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.680 imagine a really happy person who could only whistle. That's 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.480 how the guy was communicating as he came back as 0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.400 he was recovering from his stroke. Isn't that amazing? I 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.239 couldn't talk. He whistled. He wasn't whistling in words. He 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:38.560 would just whistle as if he were communicating. That is 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:43.120 really sweet, I thought, so too. Yeah what else? Anything else? 0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:44.200 I got nothing else? 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.600 Well then, everybody. That means, of course it's time for 0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:48.399 listener mail. 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:54.279 Hey guys, this is a follow up on trash in 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.439 the book plug this seems just like a wonderful thing. Hey, guys, 0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.719 wanted to write in and give an extra big hat 0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.680 tip your recent New York City trash episode. What joy 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.880 That episode brought me. I live in New York City 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:08.000 and I have what one may say is an obsession 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.520 with trash here Wow started during COVID as I was 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.360 locked down with my partner who then lived on Roosevelt 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.600 Island and his apartment head views of the East River 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.439 the path of the container garbage barges from ninety first 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.880 Street Marine transfer Station. I watched them, made efforts to 0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.840 identify them, film them, and eventually it led to me 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.040 writing a children's book about New York City trash. 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:29.880 Awesome. 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.719 It's so cool. Seeing the multitude of the garbage was 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:36.200 jarring and all very fascinating. The book is about Gary, 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:40.040 a city rat, and his adventures with Marge. The garbage barge. 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.840 Is definitely not a full capture of the city's garbage, 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.680 but a story of one of its many routes. I 0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:47.560 now live in Brooklyn with my partner, so I no 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:51.120 longer have regular views of the garbage barges boo, but 0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.520 I still visit the river to look at them. Needless 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.960 to say, I love your other previous garbage related episodes 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.040 as well, and I want to say general thank you 0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.320 for your show. I've been a listener since twenty sixteen, 0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:05.280 learn so much from you across so many topics. And lastly, 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.360 I'm greatly looking forward to your live show in New 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:09.640 York at the end of the month. That is from 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.160 Jessica Chang in Brooklyn, New York. And Jessica's book is 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.960 Gary meets Margethebarge. 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.520 That's awesome. Congratulations, Jessica. That's a great book idea. Yeah, 0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:21.920 I gotta get that one. 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.240 So go go buy it, go to some independent bookseller 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.200 of your choice or look it up online and it's 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:27.880 port Jessica. 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.080 And then yeah, just walk in and say I'll take 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:35.600 one copy of Jerry meets Marche the Barge please, that's right, 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:36.600 and they'll go. 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.600 Another one. 0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:43.799 If you want to be like Jessica and let us 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:46.200 know about an awesome book you wrote, we would love 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.680 to hear that. You can write about your book in 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.440 an email and send it off to Stuff podcast at 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:55.799 iHeartRadio dot com. 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.799 Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. 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