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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's

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Speaker 2: Chuck and Jerry's here too. And it's become clear to

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Speaker 2: me that I used the slide whistle on the wrong episode.

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Speaker 2: This is stuff you should know. Oh, would they have

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Speaker 2: gotten annoying to you?

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Speaker 1: I think the slide whistle work perfect. And this isn't

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Speaker 1: about slide whistles.

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Speaker 2: No, it's about whistle whistles, which means your mouth with

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Speaker 2: your lips pursed. That's right, So let's just go out

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Speaker 2: of the gate. For the three people who don't know

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Speaker 2: what whistling is, Whistling is the act of making a

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Speaker 2: sound by forcing air through your mouth through a narrow passage,

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Speaker 2: typically with your lips pursed. And that is actually a

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Speaker 2: specific kind of whistling, as we'll see, called pucker whistling.

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Speaker 2: There's other kinds, but that is by far the most

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Speaker 2: common form of whistling. If you can move your tongue

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you can start to get pretty good

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Speaker 2: at whistling. One other thing to start set everything up.

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Speaker 2: There is no genetic basis for not being able to whistle.

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Speaker 2: It's just a lack of practice.

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Speaker 1: Do you whistle right out of the gate, let's hit

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Speaker 1: me with that info. You bet, I don't mean. Can

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Speaker 1: you whistle? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I find myself more going like that, Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to do a song. I don't even know I'm

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Speaker 2: doing it. I like realize I'm doing it as I'm

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Speaker 2: doing it. It's just something to occupy the space around me.

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Speaker 2: I guess. Okay, what about you, Chuck? Do you whistle? Chuck?

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Speaker 2: Are you a whistler?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I whistle sometimes. I wonder if I annoy people

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Speaker 1: by whistling.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you've never annoyed me by whistling. I can tell

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Speaker 2: you that.

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Speaker 1: But back when, you know, in the early days of

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Speaker 1: HowStuffWorks dot com, when we worked in a big office

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Speaker 1: with you know, fifty people, I used to wonder about

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, like, well, yeah, you know, am I

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Speaker 1: whistling around the office? Is that annoying to people? Kind

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Speaker 1: of like remember the guy who walked around in his

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Speaker 1: sock feet? Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Why did that bother me so much?

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Speaker 1: Because he walked around in office with sock feet, including

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Speaker 1: the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: Yes, including the bathroom. That's why urinoal in socks it was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know that that's just objectively wrong. But

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Speaker 2: I don't the rest of it. I never understood why

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Speaker 2: it bothered me so much.

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Speaker 1: But you just you don't do that. You don't do that,

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Speaker 1: that's why.

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Speaker 2: But you're also not supposed to whistle around the office

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Speaker 2: to FYI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I literally kind of was like,

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Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't do that around here, because that was

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Speaker 1: the first office job I ever had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I know for a fact I've noticed

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Speaker 2: you whistling before, but I can tell you it's never

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm a pretty good whistler, so I

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Speaker 1: like to whistle songs and things.

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Speaker 2: You are a very good whistler.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So well, you know, maybe I'll try

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Speaker 1: a little bit out here and there.

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Speaker 2: Jerry whistles too. You just can't hear it.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's whistling right now.

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Speaker 2: Way to go, Jerry, you're champ.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the pucker whistle. That's the most common,

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Speaker 1: you know, whistle that most people walk around doing.

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Speaker 2: That's this.

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Speaker 1: That that's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to demonstrate them all, so you

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Speaker 2: go through them all, demonstrate them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds great. Okay, my good friend Eddie whom

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Speaker 1: you've met before. He does what's called the palettal whistling,

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Speaker 1: which is sh that's right, except it makes a whistle

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Speaker 1: on the roof of your mouth. I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Eddie does it really well, so it's always kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a big it's just a nostalgia last for

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Speaker 1: me when whenever Eddie breaks out the pal little whistle?

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Speaker 2: Can he spit like that too? You know how you

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Speaker 2: can do like a little little thing of spit like

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Speaker 2: really fast from your mouth by by touching your palette

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, gleaking?

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Speaker 2: Yes, can you do that?

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Speaker 1: I can gleek, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If Eddie can, well, then I'll bet you could pallette

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Speaker 1: The old finger whistle? It's like uh yeah, except again caveat,

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Speaker 1: except it makes a whistles sound.

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Speaker 1: I've never been able to do this. There are different methods,

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Speaker 1: number of fingers where you place them, and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: The old taxi whistle, that's a that's a finger whistle.

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Speaker 1: Usually I've always been jealous of people who could really

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Speaker 1: bust out a loud finger whistle. I could never do it.

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Speaker 1: Are you jealous the finger whistlers? I mean that's very

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Speaker 1: low on the scale, but sure a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Ok, all right, I mean they're putting their fingers in

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Speaker 2: their mouths, yeah, and walking around New York City.

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Speaker 1: Yep. That's really loud, though.

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Speaker 2: But if you could just Pallett whistle, you can usually

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Speaker 2: whistle as loud as a finger whistle.

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Speaker 1: In my oh, aren't very loud.

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Speaker 2: It's like this right?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I think you're thinking of two different things.

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Speaker 1: Are you thinking of a palette whistle as like a

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Speaker 1: taxi call without fingers?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, it's the kind of where like your your

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Speaker 2: lips kind of press back in your in your face

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Speaker 2: a little bit and your teeth cairt explosed and your

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Speaker 2: tongue goes up to the roof of your mouth.

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Speaker 1: I think we have a different version of palette whistle.

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Speaker 1: Then maybe I can get Eddie Eddie to record his

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Speaker 1: Pallett whistle.

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Speaker 2: So I know what you're talking about. Then I've seen

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Speaker 2: video of that. Yes, it's coming. It's almost like it

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Speaker 2: comes from the back of the throat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wish I could do it. When

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Speaker 2: At all palattle whistling except to mix this sound.

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Speaker 1: And then there's throat whistling, which is a very strange

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Speaker 1: looking whistle because your mouth is open. You're you're not

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Speaker 1: you don't have like a puckered purse lip.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I'm thinking of. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: palattal whistling is.

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Speaker 1: If it's not, you know what, I'll at the very

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Speaker 1: least I'll get Eddie to send me an audio thing

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Speaker 1: that I'll text you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can you text him now? Sure, I'll talk you.

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Speaker 2: Just text for a minute.

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Speaker 1: For the throat whistling. I would want to recommend did

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Speaker 1: you watch those videos I sent you? By any chance

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Speaker 1: I didn't, chuck, I'm sorry. Oh man, that's all right.

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Speaker 1: You have to though, you owe it to yourself, okay,

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Speaker 1: because they're just go to YouTube and type in Ralph Whistler, guys,

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Speaker 1: I guess g I E. S. E. On Kelly and Company,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, and just witness the beauty of this

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Speaker 1: guy Ralph doing his throat whistling to Georgia on my mind,

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Speaker 1: which got about a half a million, five hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand views. Then right afterward, in fact, you'll be

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Speaker 1: proddedge to watch the next video, which is best singer

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Speaker 1: ever Whistler redub which is somebody who redubbed him with

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Speaker 1: his strange facial movements. As actual we won't even call

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Speaker 1: it singing, but other mouth noises. That has gotten two

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll definitely watch it, so Chuck. We can't actually

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Speaker 2: say when whistling started. Some people say that it actually

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Speaker 2: was a proto language, which I find is absolutely fascinating totally.

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Speaker 2: We do know that the that well back into prehistory

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Speaker 2: a bioacoustician named Julian Meyer who says the muscles it

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Speaker 2: takes the amount of brain power it takes to whistle

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Speaker 2: is so much less than it is to speak and

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Speaker 2: to use words and creative vocabulary like that. That it

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Speaker 2: just makes sense that we would have evolved to whistle first,

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Speaker 2: then once you have somebody's attention, you want to express

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Speaker 2: an idea that just inherently follows. It's almost inevitable that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there have been legitimate whistling languages discovered on every

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Speaker 1: to recorded history, we know for sure that Greeks and

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Speaker 1: Romans and ancient Greece and Rome whistled because they whistle

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Speaker 1: in other countries, but we boo here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: But in the UK and Europe they whistle when they

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There was also so Herodotus in his histories described

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that there was not like some kernel

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Speaker 2: of truth. And this the Troglodites who spoke like bats

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were all over the place. People just took

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Speaker 1: took whistling and his buddies, Hey, look at this mastad

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Speaker 1: On over here. Let's take this thing down. He says

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Speaker 1: that all in a whistle.

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Speaker 2: He's like And also, have you heard the new Mastodon album?

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Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to Mastodon. I was just

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Speaker 1: the for the second year running the Celebrity Judge quote

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Speaker 1: unquote Celebrity Judge and the Chicken Wing contest for the

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Speaker 1: Kirk with Spring Fling, and one of the other judges

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Speaker 1: was Braun, the drummer of Mastadon Awesome, and he was

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure, how could you not be if you're

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Speaker 2: in Mastadon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd said there and ate chicken wings together and

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Speaker 1: very seriously reviewed them and rated them.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure you'd take that seriously. I would too.

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Speaker 2: I would be very disappointed if you just took that

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Speaker 2: as like a lark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen chicken wings, wow, lucky. Yeah. Well I didn't

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Speaker 1: eat them all. I ate a house to like four

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Speaker 1: of them, and then most of the rest were just

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Speaker 1: a bite or two.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Do you like smoked wings like you know the

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Speaker 2: Fox Brothers ilk?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, smoke. I have a love hate with smoke on

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Speaker 1: any food it can it's okay, But the same with mezcal.

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Speaker 1: I like it and just little bits and blasts.

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Speaker 2: M uh yeah, I'm with you. Uh. With the smoked

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Speaker 2: wings though, that's that's kind of what I'm on right now.

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Speaker 2: I can eat a lot.

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Speaker 2: Well, we need to talk about when whistling was like

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Speaker 1: But if you're talking about whistle why you work? Musical

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Speaker 2: Pleasure. Yeah. Well, even in the Canterbury Tales, Chaucer says

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Speaker 2: So there were actual songs. There were professional whistlers late

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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty nine Ronnie Ronalde sold out Radio City

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Speaker 1: Every night for ten weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean that just so was how big

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's still a thing. I watched Pucker Up,

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: It's great almost in the way that it starts out too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talking better watch what you say though, buddy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. So it was going on pretty well, whistling

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Speaker 1: an academy. In nineteen oh nine, the Agnes Woodward, California

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Speaker 2: If you're in a Western, you better know how to whistle.

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Speaker 2: That's my guess why John Wayne needed to learn at.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, your horse loves to hear you whistle.

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Speaker 1: That's a funny joke though in a Western, it's like

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Speaker 2: Probably that reminds me of the singing horse in Top Secret.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, good, So you remember the singing Horse.

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Speaker 2: So I think you were a kind of getting to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. It also had a bad reputation, even

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Speaker 2: So it's just like roller skating. You remember how like

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Speaker 2: over the years. And I say, we take a break

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, okay, Chuck, So we're talking about people

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Speaker 2: but she had albums like she released albums where rather

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's still a thing. I'm sure you looked

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Speaker 1: robust article. But she found Molly Lewis, who is a

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Speaker 1: has an EP called The Forgotten Edge. She performs live

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, yes, Sunday Morning. It was good little segment, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Very good little segment, like you said, and she just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of laughing about it, and not like

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Speaker 2: She's got some contemporaries too, a lot of I think

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Speaker 2: if you really dig into whistling, you'll end up hearing

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Speaker 2: essentially competitive whistlers. There's whistling competitions that are held over

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Speaker 2: It's not just like there's one way to whistle. People

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Speaker 1: Like I said, that's right. I mean, Sammy Hagar may

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Speaker 2: That's right. And he said for those about to rock,

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Speaker 2: we salute you, and.

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Speaker 1: We salute Sammy because he just got a star on

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Speaker 1: the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, way to go, Sammy. So if you are a

437
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: great whistler and you, you know, maybe compete in these

438
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: competitions and you're like, well, not popular enough to get

439
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 1: my album out there, like Molly Lewis, you probably could

440
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: find a home. It sirked us Ola because they have

441
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: had quite a few whistlers over the years perform with

442
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: them as circus is a bit of a modern day vaudeville,

443
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: and they have all kinds of fun things like that. Yeah,

444
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: we go every year here in Atlanta. It's a nice

445
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: fun tradition for the fam. You can also whistle on

446
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: songs and soundtracks. Molly Lewis whistled on that Barbie soundtrack.

447
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: That's so great. Of course, who can forget the good,

448
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: the bad, and the ugly Sergio Leoni's famous famous spaghetti

449
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: Western in which Alessandro Alessandroni did that very sort of

450
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: iconic whistle for that movie.

451
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: Oh, it's iconic for sure. I mean it signifies anytime

452
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: somebody is you're suddenly like potentially in danger because an

453
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: extraordinarily capable killer has showed up?

454
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: Is that?

455
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd described that.

456
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: Correctly, No, like if the s was about to go down?

457
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.

458
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: And as a refresher, of course, Clinty Sort was a good,

459
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Lee Van Kleep was a bad and Eli Wallach was

460
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the ugly anyway, I know, do you want to bust

461
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: that one out for us.

462
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: Like that?

463
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was great.

464
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: I got another one too. There's actually a name you

465
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 2: know that whistling part where eld Driver is going to

466
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: kill the bride at the very beginning of Kill Bill

467
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: Volume one. Yeah, that song is called Twisted Nerve and

468
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: it's like the creepiest song you've ever heard in your life.

469
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: And it's from a nineteen sixty eight British thriller called

470
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: Twisted Nerve. You know the song I'm talking about.

471
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd probably recognize that it's been wat since

472
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I've seen that though.

473
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: It's just creepsville. And for some reason, I think it's

474
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: because it's whistled in part is why it's creepy. It's

475
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: a creepy song.

476
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: All right, I'll have to check that out. You want

477
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: to take a stab at it her?

478
00:24:49,760 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: Now? Sure you know the song?

479
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: No, but I feel like applauding.

480
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: I think we should overdub the actual song where I

481
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: start just impress everybody.

482
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: That'd be pretty great. Of course, we have to name

483
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: the fact that sometimes people will whistle as a character.

484
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Let's say, if you're Woodstock in Peanuts, Jason Saranus did

485
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: the Woodstock whistles. And there's got any Percy Edwards who

486
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: is an animal impressionist and he voices whistles for a

487
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: lot of animated characters.

488
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: He also was the voice er I guess the character

489
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: of Fiz Gig in the Dark Crystal. Essentially that one

490
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: of the pets.

491
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: You just whistled, And what did I just whistle? What

492
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: did I do? I indicated something, didn't I?

493
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: You expressed emotion, in this case admiration or being impressed.

494
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: That's right, And what we're talking about is why people whistle.

495
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: And we've kind of poked around here and there. You

496
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: know first about the fact that there were languages and

497
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. If you lived in a mountainous region,

498
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: A very good way to communicate over a longer distance

499
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: like that and maybe give a direction is to have

500
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: some whistles that you agree on. Rather than try and

501
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: get someone to understand you saying you know, there is

502
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: wood over here, you might have a whistle that can

503
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: indicate that a little more clearly. Over a great echoe.

504
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: Distance, there's also yes. And that's the whole point. Echoe

505
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: distances are basically the basis of what are known as

506
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: whistled languages, and they're a whistled version of your local language.

507
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: So like if you were saying there's wood over there,

508
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: you'd be like, right, and it actually works, like your

509
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: whistle can travel way farther. I saw something like five

510
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty meters on like a nice spring day,

511
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: compared to forty meters for just speech one hundred and

512
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: twenty meters for shouting. One hundred and fifty meters is

513
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: what your whistle will carry. And there's like neurologists and

514
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: linguists are just fascinated by this, Like how could you

515
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: kind of imitate a sentence in whistle and the receiver

516
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: here's the sentence essentially in the same way as if

517
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: you spoke it. Like it goes to show like there's

518
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: a lot that you can strip out of speech and

519
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: still get the point across. That's what whistle languages to you.

520
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, there's only

521
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: a handful of words that you might want to communicate.

522
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to say, hey, we have firewood over here.

523
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: You just have to be able to say fire here

524
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: or or vegetable here, you know, And you can just

525
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: combine very rudimentary expressions to one another informative expressions. What

526
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: would you call that? Information? Sure, an informative expression.

527
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: I like that, actually, I like that a lot more

528
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: than dumb old information. Also, the other person says, what

529
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: kind of a right, the initial person says tomatoes, and

530
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: the second person goes tomatoes a fruit, and the initial

531
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: person says, is it? And it just keeps going on

532
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: like this. But imagine people doing that whistling.

533
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be pretty great. We have the legendary wolf whistle,

534
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: which of course is the that originated they believe as

535
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: a call like shepherds was used. Would use that to

536
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: communicate that there are wolves about, and then that evolved

537
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: to something that you know, a street manhole repair cover

538
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: person in New York City might do to any woman

539
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: that walks by.

540
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Still supposedly, in twenty eighteen, France banned wolf whistling with

541
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: a seven hundred and fifty euro fine on the spot.

542
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: You would be like, you need to pay this on

543
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: the spot, And that fascinating because it's a it's a

544
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: form of sexual harassment.

545
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at France.

546
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: And I saw that the or furthest back that a

547
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: wolf whistle in that context can be traced to is

548
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: that nineteen forty three Tech Savery cartoon Red Hot Riding Hood,

549
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: where the cartoon wolf is like watching Riding Hood like

550
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: perform on stage and just completely loses his mind.

551
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: Any wolf whistles, that's right, you know earlier the old uh?

552
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean that can that one in itself can mean

553
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: several different things. You could be impressed by something and

554
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: go like that, or you could use it sort of

555
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: derisively if someone did something really embarrassing or bad at

556
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: a party.

557
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: True, you just made my stomach turn? Wow? Well yeah,

558
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: effect of a whistle in certain contexts.

559
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: And usually like an eye roll and something along with

560
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: it will help indicate that expression. But it's just really

561
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: fascinating how many different sort of you can express disappointment

562
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: or excitement, Like, how many different things you can do

563
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: from just a simple whistle.

564
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: Wonder where your car is?

565
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, how would you do that? Wait? I thought that

566
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: was vegetable here.

567
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: And one other thing we have to talk about. We

568
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: mentioned communicating with animals, and we talked about this in

569
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: I think They're communicating with animals episode appropriately enough. The

570
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: greater honeyguide, which is a type of bird found in

571
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: Tanzania Mozambique that honey foragers. Human honey foragers have learned

572
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: to communicate to whistle to the greater honey guide to

573
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: get them to come out of the trees and lead

574
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: them to a beehive.

575
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: Amazing.

576
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: I love that. Communicating with animals, I think is just fantastic.

577
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: It's the best. Maybe we'll take a break in a sec,

578
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: but we'll go over some quick superstitions involving whistling, and

579
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, instead of going through all these I think

580
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: they can all almost be lumped into. Whistling in a

581
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: certain place or at a certain time can bring bad luck.

582
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: It seems like Polynesia, Iceland, Hawaii, Mexico, Hong Kong, Scandinavia.

583
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: There's so many countries where if you whish, like I said,

584
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: in the wrong place or at the wrong time, it

585
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: can be a bad omen. It can mean there's ghosts about,

586
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: or there's spirits about, just sort of depending on when

587
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: and how it's done.

588
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually it's whistling in the dark or after dark.

589
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: Is a terrible idea in a lot of these cultures

590
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: around the world, and that the bad luck that you're

591
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: going to bring yourself is summoning spirits, demons, that kind

592
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: of thing who will snatch your soul essentially. But I

593
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: find it fascinating that whistling in the dark or whistling

594
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: after nightfall is like almost a universal superstition.

595
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: Well, I've never heard of that.

596
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: I hadn't either, but I mean all of the different,

597
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: like widespread cultures that share that belief, it suggests that

598
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: it's a very very very old superstition.

599
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

600
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: So you want to take that break.

601
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take the break and we'll talk more about

602
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: whistling and basically how you do it right after this. Okay,

603
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: all right, we're back with promise on teaching you to whistle.

604
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: It is very cute when you have a kid and

605
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: they try to learn to whistle and think and claim

606
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: that they are whistling when they are not. At least

607
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: that was my case early on, when Ruby was trying

608
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: to learn how to whistle, she'd be like, Daddy, I

609
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: can whistle. Oh, let's hear it. And what can you

610
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: say besides hey, that sounds great, keep at it.

611
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: You were like, and gave Brad and iyrol exactly and

612
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: she was like, what is that?

613
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: That is not even a whistle. But it does take

614
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: some time to learn how to whistle. Some people never learn,

615
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: but you can teach yourself. What you're doing basically is

616
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: creating your mouth becomes an instrument and becomes a chamber.

617
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Basically where you are passing air from one small opening

618
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: from your lungs where the air comes from out of

619
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: your puckered lips. And you do that with the standard

620
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: pucker whistle by placing your tongue. And you might even

621
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: realize at first, I was like, wait a minute, the

622
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: tongu's not on the roof of your mouth. But the

623
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: tongue is absolutely at the roof of your mouth. The

624
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: very back of your tongue is at the very back

625
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: of the roof of your mouth, not the front of

626
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: your tongue. The front of your tongue is pressed against

627
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: the bottom row of teeth. And that's what you do.

628
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: You just start blowing. You form that O shape with

629
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: your mouth and just practice, practice.

630
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: Practice, Yeah, it's really neat. It's called the Helmholtz chamber

631
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: that you're forming, which is a type of resonance chamber.

632
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: And because you're forcing air through a large from smaller

633
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: holes into a larger hole back into a smaller hole

634
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: and your tongue's there by moving your tongue, you can

635
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: adjust like all sorts of weird currents that you're creating

636
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: in the air pressure and that creates the vibrations that

637
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: make the sound, which is why when you move your

638
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: tongue around, you change notes and pitch and timber and

639
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: all sorts of crazy stuff. And that's whistling. That's pucker whistling.

640
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: That's what you're doing. I love it. I love that

641
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: there's like an explanation that makes total sense. It's deeply

642
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: satisfying to me. It would suck if we're like, we

643
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: still don't know how we whistle. I think I would

644
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: lose my mind if that were the case.

645
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, when we're saying things like moving

646
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: your tongue around and the tongue is pressed against the

647
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: top of your mouth, like if you don't know how

648
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: to whistle, and that's frustrating you and you're just moving

649
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: your tongue all over the place, it's they're very very

650
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: subtle movements. Like I said, I didn't even realize my

651
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: tongue was a against the back of the roof of

652
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: my mouth. I didn't either until I started whistling and

653
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wait a minute, I guess it is.

654
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: And then the back of my tongue, very subtly moving

655
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: back and forth against the back of the roof of

656
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: my mouth is what creates the different tones and pitches

657
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: and warbles and what have you. So it's not it's

658
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: just all just very, very slight movements. You're going to

659
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: frustrate yourself if you don't know how to whistle and

660
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: you're trying just all these crazy things with your tongue

661
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: in your mouth.

662
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Chris Olman, that champion professional whistler, he spoke with

663
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: Vox and said, I'll give you four steps to whistling. First,

664
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: form and O with the shape of your mouth. Second,

665
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: press the tip of your tongue to your teeth, usually

666
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: the bottom row of the inside of the bottom row

667
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: of your teeth. And then he said, blow gently. This

668
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: is important. You want your air to be focused and constant,

669
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: not necessarily hard. The hearder you blow, it's actually it

670
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: makes it more difficult to whistle. You just wanted to

671
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: kind of blow concertedly but not hard. And then lastly,

672
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: you just keep practicing. And the way that he put

673
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: it is you practice each one of those steps in secession.

674
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: So you just keep forming an over and over until

675
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 2: you've got the mouth position going.

676
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel good because my steps were exactly like

677
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: the pros.

678
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you just intuitively knew how to whistle.

679
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: You just taught yourself like that? Is that what you're saying?

680
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying the way I described it

681
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: how to do it was. Oh, of course he's.

682
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: A pro, So you're a pro podcaster.

683
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: So should we talk a little bit about famous whistling stuff?

684
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, at the very least, we

685
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: have to talk about to Have and Have Not?

686
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the I mean take it away.

687
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: Then, okay. So there's an adaptation of a Hemingway novel

688
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: To Have and Have Not, with Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart,

689
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: and there's a very famous line where Bacaull says, you

690
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put

691
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: your lips together and blow. And that's probably the most

692
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: famous movie line about whistling ever. Uttered everybody knows that one.

693
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: Then you might not know a movie it's from or

694
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: who said it, but you've heard that line. Don't even

695
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 2: kid yourself.

696
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: The very famous whistle while you work from Stow White

697
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: and the Seven Doors. Of course, the Andy Griffith Show.

698
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: I remember very distinctly when my brother, when I first

699
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: visited him in Los Angeles in the early nineties, he

700
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: drove me up and up and around, and finally I

701
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: came upon through the Hollywood Hills and I came upon

702
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: this weird lake and I was like, well, what is this?

703
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: And he just started whistling Andy Griffith and I was like, no,

704
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: He's like, yep, this is it. I knew it wasn't Mayberry,

705
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: but I didn't know really anything about how movies were

706
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: made at the time. Sure, so it was just surprising

707
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: to see that, Like the bat Cave is the Hollywood

708
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Hills and the Andy Griffith Lake is right there.

709
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, same with the Hills in mash the Hills of Korea. Yeah,

710
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of songs too. We gotta we gotta

711
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: name check a few of these songs that have whistling

712
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: in them. Yes, there's walk like an Egyptian. It's a

713
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: good one, precisely, Okay, Yeah, demonstrate them all. Otis Redding's

714
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: Dock of the Bay very nice.

715
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: My whistle is very dry. Right now, I'm not at

716
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: my top.

717
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Form Scorpions, Winds of Change.

718
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: I can't think of that one. I know that song?

719
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: What is it?

720
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, Yeah, it's good. There's also a bunch

721
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: of others. Me and Julio down by the schoolyard, Don't worry,

722
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: be Happy. Maybe the iconic whistling song, that one sudden

723
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: part where Axel Roses starts whistling in patience.

724
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was on my list. That's a great whistle.

725
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: Lile, I Love You The Pixies song.

726
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, yeah, I'm going to see them next week.

727
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: You're going to see the Pixies yea where.

728
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: They're playing Chastain with Modest Mouse.

729
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: Oh neat, So is Kim deal back with them yet?

730
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Or no?

731
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, she's she's never coming back.

732
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

733
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: And not only that, they kicked out pause their their

734
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: bass player that they've had for the past eight or

735
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: nine years.

736
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 2: Wow. We black Francis is going on a tear.

737
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: Huh yeah. I don't want to speak out of school

738
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: about why that may or may not have happened, but

739
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: it seems fairly disappointing from what I've read. Wow, yeah,

740
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: but I'm still going.

741
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Uh, what else was there? Oh? Mariah Carey is a

742
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: famous whistler.

743
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Well, eh, I know you're kidding around there. Mariah Carey

744
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: is noted for singing in what's called the flute register,

745
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: or the whistle register, which is a vocal register. It's

746
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: the highest one in the vocal register, higher than falsetto.

747
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Even that very very few people can do. And they

748
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: call it the whistle register or the flute register because

749
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: those pitches can generally only be made by flutes and

750
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: whistles rather than a singer like Mariah.

751
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: Once you hear it described as the whistle register, and

752
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: you hear those notes that she's sitting, you're like, oh

753
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: my god, that sounds exactly like a whistle. It's like

754
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: a perfect name for it. Yeah, but she's singing it.

755
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: It's absurd. Yeah, and all it should be essentially impossible

756
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: what she's doing. She's not the only one. Minnie Ripperton

757
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: is another famous one who hit the whistles register. Yeah,

758
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: the famous seventies souls songstress. All those are the two

759
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: of that come to mind. Okay, but that's I'm just

760
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: impressed to no end by that.

761
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: What about the what's the name Aguilera.

762
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Christina Aguilera.

763
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, she's got that whistle range. I've heard it.

764
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: Does she really sure? Okay?

765
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I think she's there's a couple of younger artists. Actually,

766
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: she's not one of the younger artists anymore either.

767
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: Really No, we're pretty old chun Yeah. Uh.

768
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned those competitions. The I think granddaddy of them

769
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: all was shuttered unfortunately in twenty fourteen. It started nineteen

770
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: seventy three, the Louisbourg or louis Bourg, I don't know

771
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: how they say it. They're in North Carolina, and it

772
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: was a big one, and like I said, it shut

773
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: down in twenty fourteen, and I believe it's now just

774
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: its own event. It was part of the Louisbourg College

775
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: Folk Festival and now it's the National Whistlers Convention. So

776
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: it more morphed then shut down.

777
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it just became so popular people are like,

778
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: we want this to be its own event. Yeah. Somehow,

779
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: for some reason in twenty fourteen, that was the last one,

780
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: and that was the competition that's featured on Pucker Up

781
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: by the way. That National Whistler's Convention, I think it

782
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: was international. And then luckily a ficionaudo named Caroline Kaufman,

783
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: who said, hey, we're going to keep this going, created

784
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: the Masters of Musical Whistling competition in Pasadena, I think

785
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: starting in twenty twenty. This year's and off year, but

786
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: the website promises it's coming back in twenty twenty five.

787
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: I love it. We should finish probably on some Guinness

788
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: records because my friend, if we want to take the

789
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: time and do a lot of paperwork, we could very

790
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: easily hold our own Guinness World record, and I kind

791
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: of think we should do it. What well, in twenty fourteen,

792
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: there was a Guinness record for the most people whistling

793
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: at the same time at a single venue, and it

794
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: was a mere eight hundred and fifty three people at

795
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: the Spring Harvest in the United Kingdom. We could bust

796
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: that record at one of our live shows very easily.

797
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we totally. That's a great idea. We got

798
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: to get that in the works chuck.

799
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, which means who's going to do all the work,

800
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: because we talked about about, oh god, how much work

801
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: it is, and most people give up because there's so

802
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: much work to officially get a record, you know verified.

803
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: This feels like a jerry job. Oh yeah, right, what

804
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: are we going to get everybody to whistle?

805
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I mean probably the stuff you should know

806
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: jingle theme.

807
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good idea. I was thinking winds are

808
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: change and we would invite the escorpions to sing a

809
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: capella to the whistling.

810
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. We could just get up there

811
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: and go what were you doing?

812
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: I think it was a Christmas Carol. I don't know

813
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: which one though.

814
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Wow. All right, well, as long as no one does

815
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: what you do, we'll be just fine.

816
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: I thought we harmonized quite nicely. Oh okay, Well, let's

817
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: talk about some world records, because yes, I agree, we

818
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: should break that one, and we'll ask Jerry to help

819
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: us with that.

820
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: We could do that everywhere, but probably DC, that's right,

821
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: or Atlanta. Well, we'll get in Atlanta.

822
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. So in two thousand and four, this

823
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: is insane. Okay, no, this isn't a saying. This is

824
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: still pretty impressive. Marco Ferrera in two thousand and four,

825
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: and then Luca Zoki or Zochi Nozoki in twenty fourteen.

826
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: They hold the record for the world's loudest whistle. They

827
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: each reached one hundred and twenty five decibels. Again, I

828
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: don't remember what episode we were in, but that's like

829
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: rock concert level decibels. I think it was our plane travel.

830
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: That's that is amazing. Yeah.

831
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, the one that really knocks my socks off, though,

832
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: Is the one that Joshua Lockert broke?

833
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Oh the highest pitch? Yes, dude, I don't even know

834
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: what that means.

835
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so he has the world record for the world's

836
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: highest whistle in frequency ten five hundred and ninety nine hertz,

837
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: which is almost eleven kill it hurts, right, go look

838
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: up on YouTube eleven kill it hurts tone. And I

839
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: played it and I had my volume up about halfway

840
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: and it was just silent, and I was like, is

841
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: this a prank? Is this a joke? Like somebody goes

842
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: around and puts up like videos like they're playing a tone,

843
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: but then doesn't put any sound to it. And I

844
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: turned it all the way up and only then could

845
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: I hear it. It was that high pitched. It was

846
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: almost above like audible range of hearing. That's how high

847
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: pitched it was. That guy did that with a whistle.

848
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: It was It's amazing. I didn't hear it, but just

849
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: from knowing what that tone sounds like, I can't imagine

850
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: a human being doing that.

851
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm playing it right. Oh wait, turn it.

852
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: Way up, but keep your wineglasses out of the room

853
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: because they will shatter.

854
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm hearing nothing, right, turn it up. No, it's up

855
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: all the way.

856
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's what I'm saying, like it's it's amazing,

857
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: Like I finally did hear it. I can confirm it's

858
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: not just a prank.

859
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I got it. Mm hm, oh my god.

860
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: Somebody whistled like that.

861
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

862
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should just tell everyon We've been playing it

863
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 2: this whole time, just to prove our point. You can't

864
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: hear it because it's so high.

865
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Occasionally, ever since Ruby was a kid, I'll be in

866
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: the car here and there, and I'll go, everyone knows

867
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: I can sing lower than the new human, and then

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Speaker 1: she'll try and sing lower, and then I'll go, and I.

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Speaker 2: Can sing higher than any Oh, that's pretty high.

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Speaker 1: She will always, but it's not singing, of course, and

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Speaker 1: then she responds back fussly and is also not singing.

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Speaker 2: Do any of you have the whistle register ability?

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Speaker 1: Uh? No? No? And I feel bad that I really

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Speaker 1: lamed out on whistling, because I'm a prettyod whistle. I

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Speaker 1: can do some good warbles and stuff, but of course

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Speaker 1: under the gun, I'm all dry mouth. It's just not happening.

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Speaker 2: Were you nervous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that too. I'm not no, but I'm not even

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Speaker 1: getting any warble.

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Speaker 2: It's like a beautiful little lark flew into the room.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we had stop, I'll be whistling like

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Speaker 1: a songbird. I guarantee it. It just I'm locking up right now.

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Speaker 2: I've got that last whistle was great. I've got one

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Speaker 2: little fact to share.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So in one of the nineteen eighty four editions of

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Speaker 2: the British Medical Journal, there was a case study about

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Speaker 2: a patient who suffered a stroke and as they were recovering,

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Speaker 2: there are only way to communicate. They couldn't talk. They

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Speaker 2: had an elated mood. I saw it, described it so

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Speaker 2: imagine a really happy person who could only whistle. That's

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Speaker 2: how the guy was communicating as he came back as

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Speaker 2: he was recovering from his stroke. Isn't that amazing? I

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Speaker 2: couldn't talk. He whistled. He wasn't whistling in words. He

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Speaker 2: would just whistle as if he were communicating. That is

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Speaker 2: really sweet, I thought, so too. Yeah what else? Anything else?

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Speaker 1: I got nothing else?

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Speaker 2: Well then, everybody. That means, of course it's time for

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Speaker 2: listener mail.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is a follow up on trash in

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Speaker 1: the book plug this seems just like a wonderful thing. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: wanted to write in and give an extra big hat

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Speaker 1: tip your recent New York City trash episode. What joy

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Speaker 1: That episode brought me. I live in New York City

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Speaker 1: and I have what one may say is an obsession

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Speaker 1: with trash here Wow started during COVID as I was

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Speaker 1: locked down with my partner who then lived on Roosevelt

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Speaker 1: Island and his apartment head views of the East River

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Speaker 1: the path of the container garbage barges from ninety first

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Speaker 1: Street Marine transfer Station. I watched them, made efforts to

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Speaker 1: identify them, film them, and eventually it led to me

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Speaker 1: writing a children's book about New York City trash.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's so cool. Seeing the multitude of the garbage was

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Speaker 1: jarring and all very fascinating. The book is about Gary,

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Speaker 1: a city rat, and his adventures with Marge. The garbage barge.

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Speaker 1: Is definitely not a full capture of the city's garbage,

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Speaker 1: but a story of one of its many routes. I

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Speaker 1: now live in Brooklyn with my partner, so I no

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Speaker 1: longer have regular views of the garbage barges boo, but

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Speaker 1: I still visit the river to look at them. Needless

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Speaker 1: to say, I love your other previous garbage related episodes

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Speaker 1: as well, and I want to say general thank you

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Speaker 1: for your show. I've been a listener since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: learn so much from you across so many topics. And lastly,

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Speaker 1: I'm greatly looking forward to your live show in New

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Speaker 1: York at the end of the month. That is from

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Speaker 1: Jessica Chang in Brooklyn, New York. And Jessica's book is

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Speaker 1: Gary meets Margethebarge.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Congratulations, Jessica. That's a great book idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta get that one.

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Speaker 1: So go go buy it, go to some independent bookseller

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Speaker 1: of your choice or look it up online and it's

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Speaker 1: port Jessica.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, just walk in and say I'll take

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Speaker 2: one copy of Jerry meets Marche the Barge please, that's right,

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Speaker 2: and they'll go.

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Speaker 1: Another one.

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Speaker 2: If you want to be like Jessica and let us

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Speaker 2: know about an awesome book you wrote, we would love

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Speaker 2: to hear that. You can write about your book in

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Speaker 2: an email and send it off to Stuff podcast at

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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