WEBVTT - Hermanos Gutiérrez 0:00:15.476 --> 0:00:23.476 Pushkin. Hermano Scutierrez may be an instrumental guitar band, but 0:00:23.516 --> 0:00:27.836 they have zero interest in shredding. Instead, the Swiss Ecuadorian 0:00:27.876 --> 0:00:32.236 brothers Estevan and Alejandro Gutierrez take a minimalist approach to playing. 0:00:32.836 --> 0:00:37.596 They create hypnotic, sweeping compositions inspired by classical Latin guitar, 0:00:37.796 --> 0:00:42.036 and also film scores from old spaghetti westerns. In twenty 0:00:42.076 --> 0:00:45.796 twenty two, after releasing three albums independently, Hermano Scutier is 0:00:45.876 --> 0:00:49.276 signed to Easy I Sound, a label owned and operated 0:00:49.316 --> 0:00:52.396 by Dan Aarbach, guitarist and vocalist of The Black Keys. 0:00:53.436 --> 0:00:56.876 Last October, they released the album Albueno e el Malo 0:00:57.036 --> 0:01:00.916 to critical acclaim. The album features the song trace Hermanos, 0:01:01.076 --> 0:01:04.716 where Arbach joins the brothers on guitar. Today we'll hear 0:01:04.836 --> 0:01:08.076 Estevan and Alijandro played that song, along with a couple 0:01:08.076 --> 0:01:11.716 other songs, live from our Bach studio in Nashville, Tennessee. 0:01:12.596 --> 0:01:15.316 I also talked to Hermano scutierres about how their brotherly 0:01:15.396 --> 0:01:19.396 spats sometimes fuel their plane. Then they recall a recent 0:01:19.436 --> 0:01:22.796 performance in Mexico City where they played during a volcanic 0:01:23.036 --> 0:01:26.436 eruption and how Dan Aarbach knew he wanted to meet 0:01:26.476 --> 0:01:30.836 with Hermano scutierres after seeing them play for just fifteen seconds. 0:01:33.436 --> 0:01:36.676 This is broken record liner notes for the digital age. 0:01:36.836 --> 0:01:39.716 I'm justin Mitchman. Before we jump into my interview with 0:01:39.756 --> 0:01:43.476 Hermano Scutierrez, let's hear them play Thunderbird live from Easy 0:01:43.476 --> 0:03:15.116 I Sound Studio in Nashville. 0:02:09.156 --> 0:02:38.236 At a. 0:03:32.556 --> 0:03:53.436 Day and. 0:04:06.636 --> 0:04:43.076 At every. 0:04:33.956 --> 0:04:51.476 County and again at fun. 0:04:52.836 --> 0:04:53.396 About the. 0:05:17.636 --> 0:05:20.916 So beautiful listening to you guys, thank you so much. Yeah, 0:05:21.156 --> 0:05:23.716 those are sweet guitars. Those are beautiful, thank you man, 0:05:23.876 --> 0:05:25.436 you man. Those both gretches. 0:05:25.796 --> 0:05:27.036 I have a gretch, yes, sir. 0:05:27.276 --> 0:05:29.756 I have a silver Tone fourteen forty six. 0:05:31.316 --> 0:05:31.516 Yeah. 0:05:32.316 --> 0:05:33.836 Have you guys always played those guitars? 0:05:34.636 --> 0:05:35.516 No, not always. 0:05:35.956 --> 0:05:40.076 I played a Fender Mexican Series when I started straight. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:40.196 --> 0:05:41.556 that's the guitar I started with. 0:05:41.996 --> 0:05:45.276 And I played a Gibson I think it was a 0:05:45.596 --> 0:05:48.916 three thirty nine or thirty five, like the small one 0:05:49.036 --> 0:05:49.836 and so cool. 0:05:49.836 --> 0:05:51.796 I want to gratch. I really want to gratch. That's 0:05:51.876 --> 0:05:52.516 like my dream. 0:05:52.916 --> 0:05:54.836 Yeah, these are cool. I mean I should just do it. 0:05:54.876 --> 0:05:56.836 I don't know why I don't just yeah, but sometimes 0:05:56.836 --> 0:05:58.436 I like to have these dreams that are kind of 0:05:58.956 --> 0:06:00.436 it's not so hard, bro. 0:06:03.236 --> 0:06:04.396 Go buy what. 0:06:06.556 --> 0:06:10.036 Did you guys program? The the play us on your Spotify. 0:06:10.276 --> 0:06:13.316 There's a few artists playlists on there. You won't call 0:06:13.436 --> 0:06:15.716 the Sounds of the World that's us, that's from Yeah 0:06:15.756 --> 0:06:17.716 we did that. Yeah, I was I was loving. I 0:06:17.836 --> 0:06:19.596 was loving the Volume. I was loving all of them. 0:06:19.636 --> 0:06:21.676 The Volume ones in particular. 0:06:21.636 --> 0:06:23.276 Always the first ones, they're the best. 0:06:24.116 --> 0:06:28.796 Obviously, being part Ecuadorian, part Swiss growing up in Europe, 0:06:29.316 --> 0:06:31.876 did you have access to a lot of music from 0:06:31.996 --> 0:06:32.636 Latin America? 0:06:32.796 --> 0:06:33.476 Man, not really. 0:06:33.556 --> 0:06:36.676 I think when we could listen to this music was 0:06:36.836 --> 0:06:39.476 every time. Then we went to Ecuador to visit the family, 0:06:39.476 --> 0:06:41.916 you know, and so our grandfather was the one who 0:06:42.036 --> 0:06:43.836 showed us like a lot of stuff. 0:06:43.916 --> 0:06:44.516 I remember that. 0:06:44.596 --> 0:06:48.156 I have a little tape of Julio Haramo that he 0:06:48.236 --> 0:06:50.516 bought me on the corner of our town and I 0:06:50.636 --> 0:06:53.476 still have it, and it's like it's like my first 0:06:53.556 --> 0:06:57.236 memory of having like the access to Latin Latin music. 0:06:57.876 --> 0:07:02.276 I remember I bought one of those copies in Ecuador, 0:07:02.716 --> 0:07:06.476 you know, the black copies, not the original ones from Fania, 0:07:06.676 --> 0:07:10.036 and they had those compilations from Fanya with a lot 0:07:10.116 --> 0:07:13.156 of salsa. That was the first time, but not until 0:07:13.236 --> 0:07:17.276 I was maybe fifteen sixteen years old. So I got 0:07:17.356 --> 0:07:21.636 back to Switzerland, I was listening to those kind of tracks, 0:07:21.756 --> 0:07:24.756 and I think they were not so available here in Switzerland. 0:07:25.236 --> 0:07:26.796 I was lucky enough to grow up in La where 0:07:26.996 --> 0:07:29.476 you know, there's like lots of Spanish music, but you know, 0:07:29.556 --> 0:07:32.236 it's always just whatever it's programmed on the radio, you know, 0:07:32.436 --> 0:07:35.276 and so like there is a radio station though, called 0:07:35.356 --> 0:07:37.676 k Jazz. I was at a long beach and they 0:07:37.756 --> 0:07:39.476 used to have a show called Jazz on the Latin 0:07:39.556 --> 0:07:42.636 side on like on Saturday night. So we would always whenever, 0:07:42.836 --> 0:07:45.116 you know, we'd always jam like late and then turn 0:07:45.196 --> 0:07:46.996 on like around midnight or one am Jazz on the 0:07:47.076 --> 0:07:49.356 Latin side, and it would be like Ray Burretto and 0:07:49.556 --> 0:07:52.556 like all these rare like they called them, like rare groove. 0:07:52.636 --> 0:07:55.156 At the time, it sounded like the coolest thing. It 0:07:55.236 --> 0:07:57.516 sounded inaccessible, you know, like it was like, I don't 0:07:57.556 --> 0:07:59.876 know what this music is. I don't really speak Spanish. 0:07:59.956 --> 0:08:02.276 I don't know what they're saying. It sounds like rock 0:08:02.396 --> 0:08:04.636 music and like jazz, but it's coming from like you know, 0:08:05.156 --> 0:08:07.876 Ecuador or Peru, and it just was like, it felt 0:08:07.916 --> 0:08:08.596 like it was a whole. 0:08:08.436 --> 0:08:10.596 New world of things to discover and that's amazing. 0:08:10.876 --> 0:08:12.676 It was such a cool thing to have as a 0:08:12.756 --> 0:08:13.236 music fan. 0:08:13.356 --> 0:08:15.716 I like the name rare grooves. That's cool. 0:08:16.476 --> 0:08:18.636 Yeah, that's that's what I don't know why I was 0:08:18.716 --> 0:08:19.916 called that at the time, but at the time I 0:08:19.956 --> 0:08:21.396 think it was a lot of DJs would spend it 0:08:21.436 --> 0:08:24.156 and call it rare groups. Cool man, What were you 0:08:24.196 --> 0:08:26.516 guys listening to when you first started playing guitar? What 0:08:26.596 --> 0:08:29.076 were your guitar inspirations? Who were your guitar heroes. 0:08:29.676 --> 0:08:31.996 I started to play the guitar when I was in 0:08:32.156 --> 0:08:34.796 second grade and I started to play. 0:08:34.996 --> 0:08:37.276 The Argentinian folk music. 0:08:37.556 --> 0:08:40.756 There's a special type of it's called milonga and this 0:08:40.876 --> 0:08:43.476 is like this fingerpicking style and I fell in love 0:08:43.516 --> 0:08:46.116 with that music. And I just played this kind of 0:08:46.156 --> 0:08:49.116 style because my teacher also just showed me that. Yeah, 0:08:49.196 --> 0:08:51.916 so that was my first access to guitar music. Was 0:08:52.356 --> 0:08:55.396 classical guitar? You had a classical Yeah, I still have 0:08:55.596 --> 0:08:57.436 the one that I got it from my father, and 0:08:57.636 --> 0:09:00.036 that's the one when I learned to play the guitar. 0:09:00.156 --> 0:09:00.356 Yeah. 0:09:00.716 --> 0:09:02.156 Wow, how did you fall in love with that. 0:09:02.316 --> 0:09:02.716 What made you? 0:09:02.996 --> 0:09:06.436 I think you could like hear the the sadness and 0:09:07.076 --> 0:09:11.956 like the melancholy melan Coleah, I say, melancho melankly in 0:09:12.116 --> 0:09:14.996 the sounds, even without somebody to sing it, you know. 0:09:15.596 --> 0:09:18.036 And that impressed me because I was also able to 0:09:18.756 --> 0:09:22.716 put my feelings into the way how I played the guitar, 0:09:22.796 --> 0:09:25.476 because that was my teacher told me, Hey, you can 0:09:25.556 --> 0:09:29.236 play a tone different. You can play just to play it, 0:09:29.676 --> 0:09:32.916 but you can also put feelings into it. And that's 0:09:32.996 --> 0:09:35.876 what I really learned. And yeah, I'm grateful for that 0:09:36.476 --> 0:09:37.076 that I learned. 0:09:37.116 --> 0:09:40.676 That was that in Switzerland, Yes, where you took lessons, Yes, yes, 0:09:40.916 --> 0:09:44.396 were you in the music before you discovered Milano. 0:09:44.156 --> 0:09:45.436 It's called Milonga. Yeah. 0:09:45.836 --> 0:09:47.836 I think that was actually the first thing that I 0:09:48.076 --> 0:09:51.476 really learned of music. Yeah, because I didn't know. Our 0:09:51.556 --> 0:09:55.516 father didn't listen to rock music or all the cool stuff. 0:09:55.956 --> 0:10:00.476 He listened to classical orchestra music Sunday mornings. 0:10:00.516 --> 0:10:01.116 I remember that. 0:10:02.036 --> 0:10:04.756 I think I got to know the cool sound when 0:10:04.796 --> 0:10:08.476 I was like around fifteen to twenty years old. So 0:10:08.556 --> 0:10:12.036 then I I discovered, oh, there's way more cool music, 0:10:12.076 --> 0:10:13.756 you know, like rock music and all this stuff. 0:10:13.836 --> 0:10:15.636 Were you into the music your dad played, like the 0:10:15.676 --> 0:10:16.476 classical stuff. 0:10:16.956 --> 0:10:19.396 Not really, it was like, okay, it's Sunday morning, you know, 0:10:19.516 --> 0:10:22.476 but it was like also kind of interesting to know 0:10:22.596 --> 0:10:27.956 that there exists music that is just instrumental and you 0:10:28.036 --> 0:10:30.196 can feel all the passion and all the feelings in 0:10:30.236 --> 0:10:30.716 that music. 0:10:30.996 --> 0:10:32.716 What's the age difference between you two. 0:10:33.156 --> 0:10:35.236 It's eight years older that guy. 0:10:36.836 --> 0:10:40.876 So was Alejandro was a Sunday morning classical sessions. Was 0:10:40.916 --> 0:10:42.836 that so happening when you were young to. 0:10:42.916 --> 0:10:44.476 Yeah, it was just about going to tell you it 0:10:44.636 --> 0:10:47.356 was my brother Esteban who inspired me to pick up 0:10:47.396 --> 0:10:50.596 the guitar because I grew up with this sound every 0:10:50.676 --> 0:10:53.276 time he was playing the guitar. It was just a 0:10:53.436 --> 0:10:56.636 big inspiration. So when he left for one period, like 0:10:56.796 --> 0:10:59.596 for one year he went to Ecuador, there was just 0:10:59.636 --> 0:11:01.716 an absence of that kind of music in our place. 0:11:02.516 --> 0:11:03.116 So what I did. 0:11:03.196 --> 0:11:04.796 I picked the guitar and I was like, I want 0:11:04.836 --> 0:11:07.636 to learn how to play the guitar, and I watched 0:11:07.676 --> 0:11:10.636 a lot of YouTube tutorial and back in that time 0:11:10.716 --> 0:11:13.476 it was the time of Jack Johnson sing a songwriter, 0:11:13.636 --> 0:11:16.796 the surf tool, you know, and I really tried to 0:11:16.876 --> 0:11:19.236 learn those courts but I never like to play covers, 0:11:19.716 --> 0:11:21.996 so I really tried to have my own style from 0:11:22.036 --> 0:11:25.876 the beginning. And one guy which inspired me a lot 0:11:26.036 --> 0:11:29.516 was Gone Silence, like the Swedish argentineing guy with his 0:11:29.716 --> 0:11:32.356 guitar and the first record that he played like Crosses, 0:11:32.996 --> 0:11:35.236 that's such a good track and such a good album. 0:11:35.596 --> 0:11:38.796 And there's the other side, which is more coming from 0:11:38.956 --> 0:11:44.596 film and cinema, like the movies from Alejandrinati to the 0:11:44.716 --> 0:11:49.916 Mexican director with the collaboration with Gustavo Santolaya, which you know, 0:11:50.516 --> 0:11:52.316 so I think it was just a mix of a 0:11:52.356 --> 0:11:54.276 lot of things happening around that time. 0:11:55.196 --> 0:11:59.396 Gustavo's yeah, he's the king all around. 0:11:59.596 --> 0:12:01.916 Yeah, even like on the last series with the Last 0:12:01.956 --> 0:12:05.116 of Us, you know, like he's he's so present and 0:12:05.276 --> 0:12:08.956 gives so much depth to movies and it's incredible. 0:12:09.916 --> 0:12:11.796 Yeah, he's a bit of a magine, it seems like 0:12:11.836 --> 0:12:15.156 to me. Of course, So you didn't have guitar lessons, 0:12:15.196 --> 0:12:16.796 you kind of lead it on your own. 0:12:16.796 --> 0:12:18.756 Ever, it's just on my own. 0:12:18.996 --> 0:12:20.916 And the funny thing is when he told me, hey, 0:12:21.116 --> 0:12:23.436 I'm learning the guitar, because I knew that he kind 0:12:23.476 --> 0:12:26.396 of started to play a bit when before I left, 0:12:27.036 --> 0:12:30.236 But then he like told me, hey, I learned in 0:12:30.316 --> 0:12:30.836 that year. 0:12:31.076 --> 0:12:31.716 To play the guitar. 0:12:31.756 --> 0:12:33.836 And I was like, okay, cool, he can play chords 0:12:33.836 --> 0:12:34.076 a bit. 0:12:34.316 --> 0:12:35.316 And then I came back. 0:12:36.076 --> 0:12:38.876 Yeah, I was so impressed, you know, like fingerpicking, and 0:12:38.996 --> 0:12:41.916 also he came up with stuff that I was like wow, 0:12:42.516 --> 0:12:46.676 and so yeah, I'm really grateful that he started to 0:12:46.836 --> 0:12:48.916 do that. And then the first time that we played 0:12:48.956 --> 0:12:52.196 together was just magical, you know, which just connected and 0:12:52.916 --> 0:12:55.196 we felt like, hey, that's it's it's really cool what 0:12:55.316 --> 0:12:55.516 we have. 0:12:56.116 --> 0:12:58.756 Before he even started playing guitar as the Bomb, were 0:12:58.756 --> 0:13:00.716 you playing music with other people? 0:13:00.836 --> 0:13:00.876 No? 0:13:01.076 --> 0:13:01.836 Not really no No. 0:13:02.036 --> 0:13:05.756 I was always like playing by myself sometimes jamming with friends, 0:13:05.796 --> 0:13:08.996 you know, but it I also never liked to play covers. 0:13:09.516 --> 0:13:12.796 It felt always like I don't know. And then when 0:13:12.836 --> 0:13:15.156 we started to play, he came up and he said, hey, 0:13:16.556 --> 0:13:18.476 why don't you visit me. I have like an idea 0:13:18.516 --> 0:13:21.036 on the guitar, bring your guitar. Then he showed me 0:13:21.276 --> 0:13:23.476 a song and he said, hey, something is missing. Why 0:13:23.516 --> 0:13:26.236 don't you play over it? And I came up with 0:13:26.316 --> 0:13:29.196 a melody and he was like, that's exactly what I 0:13:29.396 --> 0:13:32.996 was missing. And that's like how we write songs, you know, 0:13:33.116 --> 0:13:35.116 it's always one of us comes up with an idea 0:13:35.196 --> 0:13:38.076 and then something is missing and the other fills it 0:13:38.196 --> 0:13:41.036 up without telling or asking the other one. Hey what 0:13:41.116 --> 0:13:43.316 do you need and you know, like a melody or something. 0:13:43.956 --> 0:13:46.356 It's really we have a gift and they were very 0:13:46.396 --> 0:13:47.036 grateful for that. 0:13:47.756 --> 0:13:49.796 Aleander, do you remember what that idea was that you 0:13:49.836 --> 0:13:50.836 played on that first idea? 0:13:50.996 --> 0:13:54.516 Yeah, it was the first track Elmar. That was the 0:13:54.596 --> 0:13:56.276 first song we ever written together. 0:13:56.916 --> 0:13:58.556 Do you do you mind playing some of the playing 0:13:58.596 --> 0:14:01.196 some of the chords, Yeah, of course, without Askteban first, 0:14:01.356 --> 0:14:03.316 just maybe just like just the chords as he brought. 0:14:03.156 --> 0:14:03.516 It to them. 0:14:21.356 --> 0:14:21.956 Yeah, that's it. 0:14:22.756 --> 0:14:24.836 And actually we played it the other way, so he 0:14:24.996 --> 0:14:27.636 had the melody and I had the courts. But now 0:14:27.716 --> 0:14:30.436 with the set and trying to blid like a certain dynamic, 0:14:30.556 --> 0:14:32.956 we changed it so I applied the melody now. But 0:14:33.116 --> 0:14:37.916 that was the first melody ever from their mannos, So cool. 0:14:38.716 --> 0:14:40.636 Was there ever a thought early on, like in those 0:14:40.716 --> 0:14:43.796 initial times you guys have those first ideas to put 0:14:43.876 --> 0:14:46.636 words or well do you guys singers and you feel like. 0:14:46.836 --> 0:14:51.796 Luckily, no, no, no, no, never we never thought about it, 0:14:51.876 --> 0:14:55.316 and since we're huge fans of just soundtracks and film scores, 0:14:56.516 --> 0:15:00.196 and within our limitations, we were like, no, it's it's. 0:15:00.116 --> 0:15:01.356 Not going to work with vocals. 0:15:01.996 --> 0:15:05.236 And to be honest, it was not like a conceptional 0:15:05.356 --> 0:15:07.916 thing like Okay, if we don't have vocals, we have 0:15:08.196 --> 0:15:11.636 like the potential to maybe travel more, you know, around 0:15:11.636 --> 0:15:14.716 the world because there's no boundaries because no vocals, like 0:15:14.756 --> 0:15:17.636 everyone can understand. So yeah, it was just very clear 0:15:17.716 --> 0:15:20.076 from the beginning on it just got to be instrumental. 0:15:20.756 --> 0:15:24.716 Were you guys growing up before music, did you guys 0:15:24.756 --> 0:15:27.196 get along very well? Or were you guys like combatitive 0:15:27.196 --> 0:15:27.956 as siblings? 0:15:28.276 --> 0:15:31.476 No, what you guys, we always had a close connection. 0:15:31.556 --> 0:15:33.676 I think we're battling now more than when we did 0:15:33.756 --> 0:15:34.436 when we grew up. 0:15:34.636 --> 0:15:34.796 You know. 0:15:35.036 --> 0:15:38.196 Yeah, yeah, maybe is keeping us together right now. It's 0:15:38.276 --> 0:15:38.996 really that way. 0:15:39.676 --> 0:15:39.876 Yeah. 0:15:39.916 --> 0:15:43.116 But then I'm the oldest, he's the youngest. We're in 0:15:43.236 --> 0:15:46.236 total four and we always had this connection, you know, 0:15:46.356 --> 0:15:49.356 and then when he got older, we kind of start 0:15:49.436 --> 0:15:52.116 to have like the same interest, you know, like in. 0:15:52.396 --> 0:15:53.836 Fashion, jewelry. 0:15:54.316 --> 0:15:58.476 We love vintage stuff, and yeah, it's everything that we 0:15:58.756 --> 0:16:03.196 produce by ourselves. Was always so natural and so much fun, 0:16:03.276 --> 0:16:08.116 you know, to do artwork songs like all these merge 0:16:08.156 --> 0:16:09.636 that we produce by ourselves. 0:16:09.716 --> 0:16:12.236 It was always very cool and it still is. 0:16:12.516 --> 0:16:14.476 Yeah, are you guys designing it by yourselves too? 0:16:15.076 --> 0:16:15.516 Yeah, we did. 0:16:15.636 --> 0:16:18.316 For the first four records, we did all the artwork 0:16:18.436 --> 0:16:19.076 and stuff. 0:16:19.676 --> 0:16:22.236 At what point after those ideas started percolating, did you 0:16:22.316 --> 0:16:24.396 guys realize you wanted to record stuff. 0:16:24.556 --> 0:16:27.476 It was actually that night because we were jamming. We 0:16:27.596 --> 0:16:31.116 had like three four songs of that that song that 0:16:31.396 --> 0:16:34.716 we played you, and so his roommate came into the 0:16:35.356 --> 0:16:37.556 in our room and he was like, wow, that's amazing 0:16:37.716 --> 0:16:38.756 from which band is that? 0:16:39.156 --> 0:16:41.076 And we were like, that's our music. 0:16:41.836 --> 0:16:43.396 And then he was the one that said, hey, you 0:16:43.436 --> 0:16:47.436 guys should record, play concerts and then put out an 0:16:47.596 --> 0:16:48.356 LP and whatever. 0:16:48.436 --> 0:16:51.276 And we were like, all right, yeah, let's do it. 0:16:51.596 --> 0:16:52.676 Where were your first shows? 0:16:52.916 --> 0:16:53.796 We played in Zurich. 0:16:54.076 --> 0:16:57.276 We started to play in Zurich like small venues, and 0:16:58.316 --> 0:17:01.516 then we decided to record our first album, which is 0:17:01.596 --> 0:17:06.236 called Ochuanius because of our age difference in Berlin. We 0:17:06.356 --> 0:17:08.356 went to a friend, we did a road trip. We 0:17:08.476 --> 0:17:11.476 packed all our amps and stuff, and we didn't know 0:17:11.596 --> 0:17:13.556 what we're going to do. You know, we just wanted 0:17:13.596 --> 0:17:18.236 to record and then yeah, it happened and it got 0:17:18.356 --> 0:17:21.996 how do you say words around? Like friends were passing 0:17:22.076 --> 0:17:27.076 our music, and we never had like the the idea 0:17:27.156 --> 0:17:31.996 of yeah, getting more known by our music. We always 0:17:32.156 --> 0:17:33.956 like to do it and to have it as a 0:17:33.996 --> 0:17:37.036 memory for ourselves because it's beautiful what we do. 0:17:37.196 --> 0:17:42.316 And I never heard my brother talking. So I feel good, man, 0:17:42.356 --> 0:17:44.596 I feel good. Yeah. 0:17:44.836 --> 0:17:47.156 Usually he's the shy guy and he's like, yeah, I'm 0:17:47.196 --> 0:17:48.316 in the back, But I don't know. 0:17:48.396 --> 0:17:49.516 There's a connection between you. 0:17:50.036 --> 0:17:52.036 It's just between you and me, you know, all right, 0:17:52.156 --> 0:17:55.156 because otherwise when there's some people, I don't like to 0:17:55.236 --> 0:17:55.836 talk that much. 0:17:55.916 --> 0:17:57.036 And I'll feel good right now. 0:17:57.276 --> 0:18:04.356 So, yeah, were you guys exploring other like career paths 0:18:04.436 --> 0:18:05.996 or anything? Like? What were you guys up to at 0:18:05.996 --> 0:18:08.236 the time beside music? Was there any man? 0:18:08.276 --> 0:18:11.076 I was working in the coffee place and I did 0:18:11.156 --> 0:18:14.636 those flat whites with the swans and the hearts and 0:18:14.876 --> 0:18:19.636 all that shit. But I'm glad I left that place 0:18:19.796 --> 0:18:23.276 and just this whole career and now we're into art 0:18:23.436 --> 0:18:27.276 and it's much more meaningful and important to us. 0:18:27.916 --> 0:18:30.436 What's the music scene in Zurich, like what's going on 0:18:30.596 --> 0:18:30.996 over there? 0:18:31.316 --> 0:18:33.876 To be honest, I never I was never really into 0:18:33.916 --> 0:18:37.116 the music scene in Zurich. But there are some venues 0:18:37.156 --> 0:18:41.796 which they're popular to invite like international artists. But the 0:18:41.916 --> 0:18:45.516 local scene I would live. I would tell you a 0:18:45.596 --> 0:18:48.956 naymore like even tell you it looks like it's hard, 0:18:49.316 --> 0:18:52.596 it's hard to capture. Maybe there's not a big music scene. 0:18:52.596 --> 0:18:56.196 That's why it's not so present. It's not like here 0:18:56.276 --> 0:18:59.556 in Nashville, where you know, like you come to the 0:18:59.596 --> 0:19:02.796 airport and you see like Gibson guitars and they look 0:19:02.876 --> 0:19:03.756 like they're in a museum. 0:19:03.876 --> 0:19:05.356 That's so unique. 0:19:05.476 --> 0:19:08.076 You don't have that culture in Zurich, not at all. 0:19:08.596 --> 0:19:11.756 What's it like being in a place like Tennessee just 0:19:11.796 --> 0:19:13.596 as a musician just kind of soaking that stuff in 0:19:13.716 --> 0:19:17.356 because so much of the music did you guys play, 0:19:17.356 --> 0:19:19.356 at least to my ear, it sounds like coming a 0:19:19.396 --> 0:19:21.196 lot of it coming from America as whether it's Latin 0:19:21.196 --> 0:19:24.076 America or you know, the States of course. What's it 0:19:24.236 --> 0:19:27.476 like to soak in the music culture around Tennessee? 0:19:27.836 --> 0:19:30.676 I mean, it's an honor to be here. You know, 0:19:32.356 --> 0:19:35.236 it's incredible. You can feel that music is like number 0:19:35.276 --> 0:19:40.116 one in the city and there's so much history. Also, yeah, 0:19:40.156 --> 0:19:42.676 it's like coming home. We have friends here, we have 0:19:42.796 --> 0:19:46.076 our studio here, and yeah, it's a lot of fun. 0:19:46.156 --> 0:19:47.516 You know, it's really cool. 0:19:48.196 --> 0:19:52.276 Being so international as you guys are. How do you 0:19:52.316 --> 0:19:54.996 guys organize your home lives? Like where you guys live in? 0:19:55.876 --> 0:19:58.316 I mean, we always go back to Switzerland because our 0:19:58.396 --> 0:20:01.556 family is there, so it's like the safe heaven, the 0:20:01.636 --> 0:20:05.196 safe place because everything is just working there so nasty, 0:20:05.276 --> 0:20:07.676 so you can just lay back and like rest a 0:20:07.716 --> 0:20:10.476 little bit. But we're traveling a lot in this year 0:20:10.516 --> 0:20:12.996 and even the last year it's been a lobbying on 0:20:13.116 --> 0:20:16.876 the road, so it's a mixture between being in hotels 0:20:16.956 --> 0:20:19.076 and being back with the family. 0:20:19.796 --> 0:20:21.676 But it's nice. I really enjoy it. 0:20:21.756 --> 0:20:24.076 It's also very inspiring to be on the road and 0:20:24.836 --> 0:20:28.156 meet new people and connect with different parts of the world. 0:20:29.476 --> 0:20:30.756 We have to take a quick break and then we'll 0:20:30.796 --> 0:20:37.956 come back with more from Hermano's Gutiers. We're back with 0:20:38.076 --> 0:20:41.596 more from Hermano's Gutiers. Do you guys mind playing. 0:20:41.516 --> 0:20:45.476 Course, So let's start with the Windard Malone. That was 0:20:45.516 --> 0:20:48.756 the first track that we actually recorded in the studio 0:20:49.196 --> 0:20:51.196 and it was here in this room, so it feels 0:20:51.196 --> 0:20:52.116 special to be back. 0:20:53.116 --> 0:20:54.036 All right, man, we're. 0:20:53.836 --> 0:21:50.156 Ready anything AKA. 0:22:57.236 --> 0:23:56.836 The Sometime Sime way. 0:24:13.756 --> 0:24:16.716 Such such a great energy than oh man, thank you 0:24:16.836 --> 0:24:19.356 so much. How did you guys get connected with Dan 0:24:19.436 --> 0:24:21.196 Ourbrock in the studio out there? 0:24:21.876 --> 0:24:25.276 Our management, which is also based in Los Angeles, knows 0:24:25.356 --> 0:24:30.076 the management of Easy I Sound, so the management of 0:24:30.156 --> 0:24:33.676 Easy tom Osborne. He showed Dan on a weekly meeting. 0:24:34.276 --> 0:24:37.116 Before the meeting started, actually he said, hey, Dan, check 0:24:37.156 --> 0:24:40.236 out these these two brothers. And so Dan watch it 0:24:40.316 --> 0:24:43.716 on the laptop, like ten fifteen seconds of our first video, 0:24:44.796 --> 0:24:46.796 and then he closed the laptop and said, yeah, let's 0:24:46.796 --> 0:24:47.756 have a call with the boys. 0:24:48.196 --> 0:24:48.676 So that's it. 0:24:48.796 --> 0:24:51.236 It's pretty pretty short, pretty cool. 0:24:51.276 --> 0:24:53.396 And then we had a call for like fifteen twenty 0:24:53.436 --> 0:24:57.556 minutes with Dan and and Alan the sound engineer, and 0:24:57.876 --> 0:25:00.476 it was clear that we wanted to do something together 0:25:00.596 --> 0:25:02.076 and it felt like that's it. 0:25:02.836 --> 0:25:05.036 I get why it only took fifteen seconds, man, because 0:25:05.116 --> 0:25:07.636 like the sound is pretty immediate, like it's it's like 0:25:08.276 --> 0:25:10.796 it doesn't take very long to realize what you're listening to. 0:25:11.316 --> 0:25:13.116 It's like, oh, this is a sound you know. 0:25:13.476 --> 0:25:16.596 I think it's harder for us to realize what's happening. Yeah, 0:25:16.676 --> 0:25:18.956 sometimes we're on stage and we're like, what are we 0:25:19.116 --> 0:25:21.916 doing here? You know, like are people gonna get it? 0:25:22.076 --> 0:25:26.556 And it's just yeah, apparently it's happening. It's working. 0:25:26.876 --> 0:25:26.996 You know. 0:25:27.076 --> 0:25:28.996 If you're on stage with the band and like a 0:25:29.076 --> 0:25:31.316 lead vocalist or something like that, there's stuff you can 0:25:31.396 --> 0:25:33.956 kind of hide behind where it's just you two on 0:25:34.076 --> 0:25:36.836 stage and you're seated with your guitars and you're playing, 0:25:36.956 --> 0:25:39.316 like you can't kind of hide behind a ton of 0:25:39.396 --> 0:25:42.476 theatrics or behind other people, and it's like, you guys 0:25:42.556 --> 0:25:45.156 are kind of really exposed as I'm thinking about it. 0:25:45.236 --> 0:25:49.716 Yeah, And funny thing is also every time still feels 0:25:49.796 --> 0:25:53.156 like the first time that we've kind of played in 0:25:53.276 --> 0:25:56.356 his room, you know, so it's always like we're in 0:25:56.436 --> 0:25:58.756 front of a lot of people, but it still feels 0:25:58.836 --> 0:26:01.836 like it's just the two of us playing, And it's 0:26:01.876 --> 0:26:04.516 really cool because sometimes I forget about it, you know, 0:26:04.836 --> 0:26:07.236