1 00:00:15,476 --> 00:00:23,476 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hermano Scutierrez may be an instrumental guitar band, but 2 00:00:23,516 --> 00:00:27,836 Speaker 1: they have zero interest in shredding. Instead, the Swiss Ecuadorian 3 00:00:27,876 --> 00:00:32,236 Speaker 1: brothers Estevan and Alejandro Gutierrez take a minimalist approach to playing. 4 00:00:32,836 --> 00:00:37,596 Speaker 1: They create hypnotic, sweeping compositions inspired by classical Latin guitar, 5 00:00:37,796 --> 00:00:42,036 Speaker 1: and also film scores from old spaghetti westerns. In twenty 6 00:00:42,076 --> 00:00:45,796 Speaker 1: twenty two, after releasing three albums independently, Hermano Scutier is 7 00:00:45,876 --> 00:00:49,276 Speaker 1: signed to Easy I Sound, a label owned and operated 8 00:00:49,316 --> 00:00:52,396 Speaker 1: by Dan Aarbach, guitarist and vocalist of The Black Keys. 9 00:00:53,436 --> 00:00:56,876 Speaker 1: Last October, they released the album Albueno e el Malo 10 00:00:57,036 --> 00:01:00,916 Speaker 1: to critical acclaim. The album features the song trace Hermanos, 11 00:01:01,076 --> 00:01:04,716 Speaker 1: where Arbach joins the brothers on guitar. Today we'll hear 12 00:01:04,836 --> 00:01:08,076 Speaker 1: Estevan and Alijandro played that song, along with a couple 13 00:01:08,076 --> 00:01:11,716 Speaker 1: other songs, live from our Bach studio in Nashville, Tennessee. 14 00:01:12,596 --> 00:01:15,316 Speaker 1: I also talked to Hermano scutierres about how their brotherly 15 00:01:15,396 --> 00:01:19,396 Speaker 1: spats sometimes fuel their plane. Then they recall a recent 16 00:01:19,436 --> 00:01:22,796 Speaker 1: performance in Mexico City where they played during a volcanic 17 00:01:23,036 --> 00:01:26,436 Speaker 1: eruption and how Dan Aarbach knew he wanted to meet 18 00:01:26,476 --> 00:01:30,836 Speaker 1: with Hermano scutierres after seeing them play for just fifteen seconds. 19 00:01:33,436 --> 00:01:36,676 Speaker 1: This is broken record liner notes for the digital age. 20 00:01:36,836 --> 00:01:39,716 Speaker 1: I'm justin Mitchman. Before we jump into my interview with 21 00:01:39,756 --> 00:01:43,476 Speaker 1: Hermano Scutierrez, let's hear them play Thunderbird live from Easy 22 00:01:43,476 --> 00:03:15,116 Speaker 1: I Sound Studio in Nashville. 23 00:02:09,156 --> 00:02:38,236 Speaker 2: At a. 24 00:03:32,556 --> 00:03:53,436 Speaker 3: Day and. 25 00:04:06,636 --> 00:04:43,076 Speaker 4: At every. 26 00:04:33,956 --> 00:04:51,476 Speaker 5: County and again at fun. 27 00:04:52,836 --> 00:04:53,396 Speaker 4: About the. 28 00:05:17,636 --> 00:05:20,916 Speaker 1: So beautiful listening to you guys, thank you so much. Yeah, 29 00:05:21,156 --> 00:05:23,716 Speaker 1: those are sweet guitars. Those are beautiful, thank you man, 30 00:05:23,876 --> 00:05:25,436 Speaker 1: you man. Those both gretches. 31 00:05:25,796 --> 00:05:27,036 Speaker 6: I have a gretch, yes, sir. 32 00:05:27,276 --> 00:05:29,756 Speaker 7: I have a silver Tone fourteen forty six. 33 00:05:31,316 --> 00:05:31,516 Speaker 3: Yeah. 34 00:05:32,316 --> 00:05:33,836 Speaker 1: Have you guys always played those guitars? 35 00:05:34,636 --> 00:05:35,516 Speaker 6: No, not always. 36 00:05:35,956 --> 00:05:40,076 Speaker 7: I played a Fender Mexican Series when I started straight. Yeah, yeah, 37 00:05:40,196 --> 00:05:41,556 Speaker 7: that's the guitar I started with. 38 00:05:41,996 --> 00:05:45,276 Speaker 8: And I played a Gibson I think it was a 39 00:05:45,596 --> 00:05:48,916 Speaker 8: three thirty nine or thirty five, like the small one 40 00:05:49,036 --> 00:05:49,836 Speaker 8: and so cool. 41 00:05:49,836 --> 00:05:51,796 Speaker 1: I want to gratch. I really want to gratch. That's 42 00:05:51,876 --> 00:05:52,516 Speaker 1: like my dream. 43 00:05:52,916 --> 00:05:54,836 Speaker 6: Yeah, these are cool. I mean I should just do it. 44 00:05:54,876 --> 00:05:56,836 Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't just yeah, but sometimes 45 00:05:56,836 --> 00:05:58,436 Speaker 1: I like to have these dreams that are kind of 46 00:05:58,956 --> 00:06:00,436 Speaker 1: it's not so hard, bro. 47 00:06:03,236 --> 00:06:04,396 Speaker 3: Go buy what. 48 00:06:06,556 --> 00:06:10,036 Speaker 1: Did you guys program? The the play us on your Spotify. 49 00:06:10,276 --> 00:06:13,316 Speaker 1: There's a few artists playlists on there. You won't call 50 00:06:13,436 --> 00:06:15,716 Speaker 1: the Sounds of the World that's us, that's from Yeah 51 00:06:15,756 --> 00:06:17,716 Speaker 1: we did that. Yeah, I was I was loving. I 52 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:19,596 Speaker 1: was loving the Volume. I was loving all of them. 53 00:06:19,636 --> 00:06:21,676 Speaker 1: The Volume ones in particular. 54 00:06:21,636 --> 00:06:23,276 Speaker 7: Always the first ones, they're the best. 55 00:06:24,116 --> 00:06:28,796 Speaker 1: Obviously, being part Ecuadorian, part Swiss growing up in Europe, 56 00:06:29,316 --> 00:06:31,876 Speaker 1: did you have access to a lot of music from 57 00:06:31,996 --> 00:06:32,636 Speaker 1: Latin America? 58 00:06:32,796 --> 00:06:33,476 Speaker 6: Man, not really. 59 00:06:33,556 --> 00:06:36,676 Speaker 8: I think when we could listen to this music was 60 00:06:36,836 --> 00:06:39,476 Speaker 8: every time. Then we went to Ecuador to visit the family, 61 00:06:39,476 --> 00:06:41,916 Speaker 8: you know, and so our grandfather was the one who 62 00:06:42,036 --> 00:06:43,836 Speaker 8: showed us like a lot of stuff. 63 00:06:43,916 --> 00:06:44,516 Speaker 6: I remember that. 64 00:06:44,596 --> 00:06:48,156 Speaker 8: I have a little tape of Julio Haramo that he 65 00:06:48,236 --> 00:06:50,516 Speaker 8: bought me on the corner of our town and I 66 00:06:50,636 --> 00:06:53,476 Speaker 8: still have it, and it's like it's like my first 67 00:06:53,556 --> 00:06:57,236 Speaker 8: memory of having like the access to Latin Latin music. 68 00:06:57,876 --> 00:07:02,276 Speaker 7: I remember I bought one of those copies in Ecuador, 69 00:07:02,716 --> 00:07:06,476 Speaker 7: you know, the black copies, not the original ones from Fania, 70 00:07:06,676 --> 00:07:10,036 Speaker 7: and they had those compilations from Fanya with a lot 71 00:07:10,116 --> 00:07:13,156 Speaker 7: of salsa. That was the first time, but not until 72 00:07:13,236 --> 00:07:17,276 Speaker 7: I was maybe fifteen sixteen years old. So I got 73 00:07:17,356 --> 00:07:21,636 Speaker 7: back to Switzerland, I was listening to those kind of tracks, 74 00:07:21,756 --> 00:07:24,756 Speaker 7: and I think they were not so available here in Switzerland. 75 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:26,796 Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to grow up in La where 76 00:07:26,996 --> 00:07:29,476 Speaker 1: you know, there's like lots of Spanish music, but you know, 77 00:07:29,556 --> 00:07:32,236 Speaker 1: it's always just whatever it's programmed on the radio, you know, 78 00:07:32,436 --> 00:07:35,276 Speaker 1: and so like there is a radio station though, called 79 00:07:35,356 --> 00:07:37,676 Speaker 1: k Jazz. I was at a long beach and they 80 00:07:37,756 --> 00:07:39,476 Speaker 1: used to have a show called Jazz on the Latin 81 00:07:39,556 --> 00:07:42,636 Speaker 1: side on like on Saturday night. So we would always whenever, 82 00:07:42,836 --> 00:07:45,116 Speaker 1: you know, we'd always jam like late and then turn 83 00:07:45,196 --> 00:07:46,996 Speaker 1: on like around midnight or one am Jazz on the 84 00:07:47,076 --> 00:07:49,356 Speaker 1: Latin side, and it would be like Ray Burretto and 85 00:07:49,556 --> 00:07:52,556 Speaker 1: like all these rare like they called them, like rare groove. 86 00:07:52,636 --> 00:07:55,156 Speaker 1: At the time, it sounded like the coolest thing. It 87 00:07:55,236 --> 00:07:57,516 Speaker 1: sounded inaccessible, you know, like it was like, I don't 88 00:07:57,556 --> 00:07:59,876 Speaker 1: know what this music is. I don't really speak Spanish. 89 00:07:59,956 --> 00:08:02,276 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're saying. It sounds like rock 90 00:08:02,396 --> 00:08:04,636 Speaker 1: music and like jazz, but it's coming from like you know, 91 00:08:05,156 --> 00:08:07,876 Speaker 1: Ecuador or Peru, and it just was like, it felt 92 00:08:07,916 --> 00:08:08,596 Speaker 1: like it was a whole. 93 00:08:08,436 --> 00:08:10,596 Speaker 7: New world of things to discover and that's amazing. 94 00:08:10,876 --> 00:08:12,676 Speaker 1: It was such a cool thing to have as a 95 00:08:12,756 --> 00:08:13,236 Speaker 1: music fan. 96 00:08:13,356 --> 00:08:15,716 Speaker 6: I like the name rare grooves. That's cool. 97 00:08:16,476 --> 00:08:18,636 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I don't know why I was 98 00:08:18,716 --> 00:08:19,916 Speaker 1: called that at the time, but at the time I 99 00:08:19,956 --> 00:08:21,396 Speaker 1: think it was a lot of DJs would spend it 100 00:08:21,436 --> 00:08:24,156 Speaker 1: and call it rare groups. Cool man, What were you 101 00:08:24,196 --> 00:08:26,516 Speaker 1: guys listening to when you first started playing guitar? What 102 00:08:26,596 --> 00:08:29,076 Speaker 1: were your guitar inspirations? Who were your guitar heroes. 103 00:08:29,676 --> 00:08:31,996 Speaker 8: I started to play the guitar when I was in 104 00:08:32,156 --> 00:08:34,796 Speaker 8: second grade and I started to play. 105 00:08:34,996 --> 00:08:37,276 Speaker 6: The Argentinian folk music. 106 00:08:37,556 --> 00:08:40,756 Speaker 8: There's a special type of it's called milonga and this 107 00:08:40,876 --> 00:08:43,476 Speaker 8: is like this fingerpicking style and I fell in love 108 00:08:43,516 --> 00:08:46,116 Speaker 8: with that music. And I just played this kind of 109 00:08:46,156 --> 00:08:49,116 Speaker 8: style because my teacher also just showed me that. Yeah, 110 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:51,916 Speaker 8: so that was my first access to guitar music. Was 111 00:08:52,356 --> 00:08:55,396 Speaker 8: classical guitar? You had a classical Yeah, I still have 112 00:08:55,596 --> 00:08:57,436 Speaker 8: the one that I got it from my father, and 113 00:08:57,636 --> 00:09:00,036 Speaker 8: that's the one when I learned to play the guitar. 114 00:09:00,156 --> 00:09:00,356 Speaker 3: Yeah. 115 00:09:00,716 --> 00:09:02,156 Speaker 1: Wow, how did you fall in love with that. 116 00:09:02,316 --> 00:09:02,716 Speaker 3: What made you? 117 00:09:02,996 --> 00:09:06,436 Speaker 8: I think you could like hear the the sadness and 118 00:09:07,076 --> 00:09:11,956 Speaker 8: like the melancholy melan Coleah, I say, melancho melankly in 119 00:09:12,116 --> 00:09:14,996 Speaker 8: the sounds, even without somebody to sing it, you know. 120 00:09:15,596 --> 00:09:18,036 Speaker 8: And that impressed me because I was also able to 121 00:09:18,756 --> 00:09:22,716 Speaker 8: put my feelings into the way how I played the guitar, 122 00:09:22,796 --> 00:09:25,476 Speaker 8: because that was my teacher told me, Hey, you can 123 00:09:25,556 --> 00:09:29,236 Speaker 8: play a tone different. You can play just to play it, 124 00:09:29,676 --> 00:09:32,916 Speaker 8: but you can also put feelings into it. And that's 125 00:09:32,996 --> 00:09:35,876 Speaker 8: what I really learned. And yeah, I'm grateful for that 126 00:09:36,476 --> 00:09:37,076 Speaker 8: that I learned. 127 00:09:37,116 --> 00:09:40,676 Speaker 1: That was that in Switzerland, Yes, where you took lessons, Yes, yes, 128 00:09:40,916 --> 00:09:44,396 Speaker 1: were you in the music before you discovered Milano. 129 00:09:44,156 --> 00:09:45,436 Speaker 6: It's called Milonga. Yeah. 130 00:09:45,836 --> 00:09:47,836 Speaker 8: I think that was actually the first thing that I 131 00:09:48,076 --> 00:09:51,476 Speaker 8: really learned of music. Yeah, because I didn't know. Our 132 00:09:51,556 --> 00:09:55,516 Speaker 8: father didn't listen to rock music or all the cool stuff. 133 00:09:55,956 --> 00:10:00,476 Speaker 8: He listened to classical orchestra music Sunday mornings. 134 00:10:00,516 --> 00:10:01,116 Speaker 6: I remember that. 135 00:10:02,036 --> 00:10:04,756 Speaker 8: I think I got to know the cool sound when 136 00:10:04,796 --> 00:10:08,476 Speaker 8: I was like around fifteen to twenty years old. So 137 00:10:08,556 --> 00:10:12,036 Speaker 8: then I I discovered, oh, there's way more cool music, 138 00:10:12,076 --> 00:10:13,756 Speaker 8: you know, like rock music and all this stuff. 139 00:10:13,836 --> 00:10:15,636 Speaker 1: Were you into the music your dad played, like the 140 00:10:15,676 --> 00:10:16,476 Speaker 1: classical stuff. 141 00:10:16,956 --> 00:10:19,396 Speaker 8: Not really, it was like, okay, it's Sunday morning, you know, 142 00:10:19,516 --> 00:10:22,476 Speaker 8: but it was like also kind of interesting to know 143 00:10:22,596 --> 00:10:27,956 Speaker 8: that there exists music that is just instrumental and you 144 00:10:28,036 --> 00:10:30,196 Speaker 8: can feel all the passion and all the feelings in 145 00:10:30,236 --> 00:10:30,716 Speaker 8: that music. 146 00:10:30,996 --> 00:10:32,716 Speaker 1: What's the age difference between you two. 147 00:10:33,156 --> 00:10:35,236 Speaker 7: It's eight years older that guy. 148 00:10:36,836 --> 00:10:40,876 Speaker 1: So was Alejandro was a Sunday morning classical sessions. Was 149 00:10:40,916 --> 00:10:42,836 Speaker 1: that so happening when you were young to. 150 00:10:42,916 --> 00:10:44,476 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just about going to tell you it 151 00:10:44,636 --> 00:10:47,356 Speaker 7: was my brother Esteban who inspired me to pick up 152 00:10:47,396 --> 00:10:50,596 Speaker 7: the guitar because I grew up with this sound every 153 00:10:50,676 --> 00:10:53,276 Speaker 7: time he was playing the guitar. It was just a 154 00:10:53,436 --> 00:10:56,636 Speaker 7: big inspiration. So when he left for one period, like 155 00:10:56,796 --> 00:10:59,596 Speaker 7: for one year he went to Ecuador, there was just 156 00:10:59,636 --> 00:11:01,716 Speaker 7: an absence of that kind of music in our place. 157 00:11:02,516 --> 00:11:03,116 Speaker 3: So what I did. 158 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:04,796 Speaker 7: I picked the guitar and I was like, I want 159 00:11:04,836 --> 00:11:07,636 Speaker 7: to learn how to play the guitar, and I watched 160 00:11:07,676 --> 00:11:10,636 Speaker 7: a lot of YouTube tutorial and back in that time 161 00:11:10,716 --> 00:11:13,476 Speaker 7: it was the time of Jack Johnson sing a songwriter, 162 00:11:13,636 --> 00:11:16,796 Speaker 7: the surf tool, you know, and I really tried to 163 00:11:16,876 --> 00:11:19,236 Speaker 7: learn those courts but I never like to play covers, 164 00:11:19,716 --> 00:11:21,996 Speaker 7: so I really tried to have my own style from 165 00:11:22,036 --> 00:11:25,876 Speaker 7: the beginning. And one guy which inspired me a lot 166 00:11:26,036 --> 00:11:29,516 Speaker 7: was Gone Silence, like the Swedish argentineing guy with his 167 00:11:29,716 --> 00:11:32,356 Speaker 7: guitar and the first record that he played like Crosses, 168 00:11:32,996 --> 00:11:35,236 Speaker 7: that's such a good track and such a good album. 169 00:11:35,596 --> 00:11:38,796 Speaker 7: And there's the other side, which is more coming from 170 00:11:38,956 --> 00:11:44,596 Speaker 7: film and cinema, like the movies from Alejandrinati to the 171 00:11:44,716 --> 00:11:49,916 Speaker 7: Mexican director with the collaboration with Gustavo Santolaya, which you know, 172 00:11:50,516 --> 00:11:52,316 Speaker 7: so I think it was just a mix of a 173 00:11:52,356 --> 00:11:54,276 Speaker 7: lot of things happening around that time. 174 00:11:55,196 --> 00:11:59,396 Speaker 1: Gustavo's yeah, he's the king all around. 175 00:11:59,596 --> 00:12:01,916 Speaker 7: Yeah, even like on the last series with the Last 176 00:12:01,956 --> 00:12:05,116 Speaker 7: of Us, you know, like he's he's so present and 177 00:12:05,276 --> 00:12:08,956 Speaker 7: gives so much depth to movies and it's incredible. 178 00:12:09,916 --> 00:12:11,796 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a bit of a magine, it seems like 179 00:12:11,836 --> 00:12:15,156 Speaker 1: to me. Of course, So you didn't have guitar lessons, 180 00:12:15,196 --> 00:12:16,796 Speaker 1: you kind of lead it on your own. 181 00:12:16,796 --> 00:12:18,756 Speaker 6: Ever, it's just on my own. 182 00:12:18,996 --> 00:12:20,916 Speaker 8: And the funny thing is when he told me, hey, 183 00:12:21,116 --> 00:12:23,436 Speaker 8: I'm learning the guitar, because I knew that he kind 184 00:12:23,476 --> 00:12:26,396 Speaker 8: of started to play a bit when before I left, 185 00:12:27,036 --> 00:12:30,236 Speaker 8: But then he like told me, hey, I learned in 186 00:12:30,316 --> 00:12:30,836 Speaker 8: that year. 187 00:12:31,076 --> 00:12:31,716 Speaker 6: To play the guitar. 188 00:12:31,756 --> 00:12:33,836 Speaker 7: And I was like, okay, cool, he can play chords 189 00:12:33,836 --> 00:12:34,076 Speaker 7: a bit. 190 00:12:34,316 --> 00:12:35,316 Speaker 6: And then I came back. 191 00:12:36,076 --> 00:12:38,876 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was so impressed, you know, like fingerpicking, and 192 00:12:38,996 --> 00:12:41,916 Speaker 8: also he came up with stuff that I was like wow, 193 00:12:42,516 --> 00:12:46,676 Speaker 8: and so yeah, I'm really grateful that he started to 194 00:12:46,836 --> 00:12:48,916 Speaker 8: do that. And then the first time that we played 195 00:12:48,956 --> 00:12:52,196 Speaker 8: together was just magical, you know, which just connected and 196 00:12:52,916 --> 00:12:55,196 Speaker 8: we felt like, hey, that's it's it's really cool what 197 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:55,516 Speaker 8: we have. 198 00:12:56,116 --> 00:12:58,756 Speaker 1: Before he even started playing guitar as the Bomb, were 199 00:12:58,756 --> 00:13:00,716 Speaker 1: you playing music with other people? 200 00:13:00,836 --> 00:13:00,876 Speaker 5: No? 201 00:13:01,076 --> 00:13:01,836 Speaker 3: Not really no No. 202 00:13:02,036 --> 00:13:05,756 Speaker 8: I was always like playing by myself sometimes jamming with friends, 203 00:13:05,796 --> 00:13:08,996 Speaker 8: you know, but it I also never liked to play covers. 204 00:13:09,516 --> 00:13:12,796 Speaker 8: It felt always like I don't know. And then when 205 00:13:12,836 --> 00:13:15,156 Speaker 8: we started to play, he came up and he said, hey, 206 00:13:16,556 --> 00:13:18,476 Speaker 8: why don't you visit me. I have like an idea 207 00:13:18,516 --> 00:13:21,036 Speaker 8: on the guitar, bring your guitar. Then he showed me 208 00:13:21,276 --> 00:13:23,476 Speaker 8: a song and he said, hey, something is missing. Why 209 00:13:23,516 --> 00:13:26,236 Speaker 8: don't you play over it? And I came up with 210 00:13:26,316 --> 00:13:29,196 Speaker 8: a melody and he was like, that's exactly what I 211 00:13:29,396 --> 00:13:32,996 Speaker 8: was missing. And that's like how we write songs, you know, 212 00:13:33,116 --> 00:13:35,116 Speaker 8: it's always one of us comes up with an idea 213 00:13:35,196 --> 00:13:38,076 Speaker 8: and then something is missing and the other fills it 214 00:13:38,196 --> 00:13:41,036 Speaker 8: up without telling or asking the other one. Hey what 215 00:13:41,116 --> 00:13:43,316 Speaker 8: do you need and you know, like a melody or something. 216 00:13:43,956 --> 00:13:46,356 Speaker 8: It's really we have a gift and they were very 217 00:13:46,396 --> 00:13:47,036 Speaker 8: grateful for that. 218 00:13:47,756 --> 00:13:49,796 Speaker 1: Aleander, do you remember what that idea was that you 219 00:13:49,836 --> 00:13:50,836 Speaker 1: played on that first idea? 220 00:13:50,996 --> 00:13:54,516 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was the first track Elmar. That was the 221 00:13:54,596 --> 00:13:56,276 Speaker 7: first song we ever written together. 222 00:13:56,916 --> 00:13:58,556 Speaker 1: Do you do you mind playing some of the playing 223 00:13:58,596 --> 00:14:01,196 Speaker 1: some of the chords, Yeah, of course, without Askteban first, 224 00:14:01,356 --> 00:14:03,316 Speaker 1: just maybe just like just the chords as he brought. 225 00:14:03,156 --> 00:14:03,516 Speaker 3: It to them. 226 00:14:21,356 --> 00:14:21,956 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. 227 00:14:22,756 --> 00:14:24,836 Speaker 7: And actually we played it the other way, so he 228 00:14:24,996 --> 00:14:27,636 Speaker 7: had the melody and I had the courts. But now 229 00:14:27,716 --> 00:14:30,436 Speaker 7: with the set and trying to blid like a certain dynamic, 230 00:14:30,556 --> 00:14:32,956 Speaker 7: we changed it so I applied the melody now. But 231 00:14:33,116 --> 00:14:37,916 Speaker 7: that was the first melody ever from their mannos, So cool. 232 00:14:38,716 --> 00:14:40,636 Speaker 1: Was there ever a thought early on, like in those 233 00:14:40,716 --> 00:14:43,796 Speaker 1: initial times you guys have those first ideas to put 234 00:14:43,876 --> 00:14:46,636 Speaker 1: words or well do you guys singers and you feel like. 235 00:14:46,836 --> 00:14:51,796 Speaker 7: Luckily, no, no, no, no, never we never thought about it, 236 00:14:51,876 --> 00:14:55,316 Speaker 7: and since we're huge fans of just soundtracks and film scores, 237 00:14:56,516 --> 00:15:00,196 Speaker 7: and within our limitations, we were like, no, it's it's. 238 00:15:00,116 --> 00:15:01,356 Speaker 6: Not going to work with vocals. 239 00:15:01,996 --> 00:15:05,236 Speaker 7: And to be honest, it was not like a conceptional 240 00:15:05,356 --> 00:15:07,916 Speaker 7: thing like Okay, if we don't have vocals, we have 241 00:15:08,196 --> 00:15:11,636 Speaker 7: like the potential to maybe travel more, you know, around 242 00:15:11,636 --> 00:15:14,716 Speaker 7: the world because there's no boundaries because no vocals, like 243 00:15:14,756 --> 00:15:17,636 Speaker 7: everyone can understand. So yeah, it was just very clear 244 00:15:17,716 --> 00:15:20,076 Speaker 7: from the beginning on it just got to be instrumental. 245 00:15:20,756 --> 00:15:24,716 Speaker 1: Were you guys growing up before music, did you guys 246 00:15:24,756 --> 00:15:27,196 Speaker 1: get along very well? Or were you guys like combatitive 247 00:15:27,196 --> 00:15:27,956 Speaker 1: as siblings? 248 00:15:28,276 --> 00:15:31,476 Speaker 8: No, what you guys, we always had a close connection. 249 00:15:31,556 --> 00:15:33,676 Speaker 8: I think we're battling now more than when we did 250 00:15:33,756 --> 00:15:34,436 Speaker 8: when we grew up. 251 00:15:34,636 --> 00:15:34,796 Speaker 5: You know. 252 00:15:35,036 --> 00:15:38,196 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe is keeping us together right now. It's 253 00:15:38,276 --> 00:15:38,996 Speaker 7: really that way. 254 00:15:39,676 --> 00:15:39,876 Speaker 3: Yeah. 255 00:15:39,916 --> 00:15:43,116 Speaker 8: But then I'm the oldest, he's the youngest. We're in 256 00:15:43,236 --> 00:15:46,236 Speaker 8: total four and we always had this connection, you know, 257 00:15:46,356 --> 00:15:49,356 Speaker 8: and then when he got older, we kind of start 258 00:15:49,436 --> 00:15:52,116 Speaker 8: to have like the same interest, you know, like in. 259 00:15:52,396 --> 00:15:53,836 Speaker 6: Fashion, jewelry. 260 00:15:54,316 --> 00:15:58,476 Speaker 8: We love vintage stuff, and yeah, it's everything that we 261 00:15:58,756 --> 00:16:03,196 Speaker 8: produce by ourselves. Was always so natural and so much fun, 262 00:16:03,276 --> 00:16:08,116 Speaker 8: you know, to do artwork songs like all these merge 263 00:16:08,156 --> 00:16:09,636 Speaker 8: that we produce by ourselves. 264 00:16:09,716 --> 00:16:12,236 Speaker 6: It was always very cool and it still is. 265 00:16:12,516 --> 00:16:14,476 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you guys designing it by yourselves too? 266 00:16:15,076 --> 00:16:15,516 Speaker 6: Yeah, we did. 267 00:16:15,636 --> 00:16:18,316 Speaker 7: For the first four records, we did all the artwork 268 00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:19,076 Speaker 7: and stuff. 269 00:16:19,676 --> 00:16:22,236 Speaker 1: At what point after those ideas started percolating, did you 270 00:16:22,316 --> 00:16:24,396 Speaker 1: guys realize you wanted to record stuff. 271 00:16:24,556 --> 00:16:27,476 Speaker 8: It was actually that night because we were jamming. We 272 00:16:27,596 --> 00:16:31,116 Speaker 8: had like three four songs of that that song that 273 00:16:31,396 --> 00:16:34,716 Speaker 8: we played you, and so his roommate came into the 274 00:16:35,356 --> 00:16:37,556 Speaker 8: in our room and he was like, wow, that's amazing 275 00:16:37,716 --> 00:16:38,756 Speaker 8: from which band is that? 276 00:16:39,156 --> 00:16:41,076 Speaker 6: And we were like, that's our music. 277 00:16:41,836 --> 00:16:43,396 Speaker 8: And then he was the one that said, hey, you 278 00:16:43,436 --> 00:16:47,436 Speaker 8: guys should record, play concerts and then put out an 279 00:16:47,596 --> 00:16:48,356 Speaker 8: LP and whatever. 280 00:16:48,436 --> 00:16:51,276 Speaker 6: And we were like, all right, yeah, let's do it. 281 00:16:51,596 --> 00:16:52,676 Speaker 1: Where were your first shows? 282 00:16:52,916 --> 00:16:53,796 Speaker 6: We played in Zurich. 283 00:16:54,076 --> 00:16:57,276 Speaker 8: We started to play in Zurich like small venues, and 284 00:16:58,316 --> 00:17:01,516 Speaker 8: then we decided to record our first album, which is 285 00:17:01,596 --> 00:17:06,236 Speaker 8: called Ochuanius because of our age difference in Berlin. We 286 00:17:06,356 --> 00:17:08,356 Speaker 8: went to a friend, we did a road trip. We 287 00:17:08,476 --> 00:17:11,476 Speaker 8: packed all our amps and stuff, and we didn't know 288 00:17:11,596 --> 00:17:13,556 Speaker 8: what we're going to do. You know, we just wanted 289 00:17:13,596 --> 00:17:18,236 Speaker 8: to record and then yeah, it happened and it got 290 00:17:18,356 --> 00:17:21,996 Speaker 8: how do you say words around? Like friends were passing 291 00:17:22,076 --> 00:17:27,076 Speaker 8: our music, and we never had like the the idea 292 00:17:27,156 --> 00:17:31,996 Speaker 8: of yeah, getting more known by our music. We always 293 00:17:32,156 --> 00:17:33,956 Speaker 8: like to do it and to have it as a 294 00:17:33,996 --> 00:17:37,036 Speaker 8: memory for ourselves because it's beautiful what we do. 295 00:17:37,196 --> 00:17:42,316 Speaker 6: And I never heard my brother talking. So I feel good, man, 296 00:17:42,356 --> 00:17:44,596 Speaker 6: I feel good. Yeah. 297 00:17:44,836 --> 00:17:47,156 Speaker 7: Usually he's the shy guy and he's like, yeah, I'm 298 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:48,316 Speaker 7: in the back, But I don't know. 299 00:17:48,396 --> 00:17:49,516 Speaker 6: There's a connection between you. 300 00:17:50,036 --> 00:17:52,036 Speaker 8: It's just between you and me, you know, all right, 301 00:17:52,156 --> 00:17:55,156 Speaker 8: because otherwise when there's some people, I don't like to 302 00:17:55,236 --> 00:17:55,836 Speaker 8: talk that much. 303 00:17:55,916 --> 00:17:57,036 Speaker 6: And I'll feel good right now. 304 00:17:57,276 --> 00:18:04,356 Speaker 1: So, yeah, were you guys exploring other like career paths 305 00:18:04,436 --> 00:18:05,996 Speaker 1: or anything? Like? What were you guys up to at 306 00:18:05,996 --> 00:18:08,236 Speaker 1: the time beside music? Was there any man? 307 00:18:08,276 --> 00:18:11,076 Speaker 7: I was working in the coffee place and I did 308 00:18:11,156 --> 00:18:14,636 Speaker 7: those flat whites with the swans and the hearts and 309 00:18:14,876 --> 00:18:19,636 Speaker 7: all that shit. But I'm glad I left that place 310 00:18:19,796 --> 00:18:23,276 Speaker 7: and just this whole career and now we're into art 311 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:27,276 Speaker 7: and it's much more meaningful and important to us. 312 00:18:27,916 --> 00:18:30,436 Speaker 1: What's the music scene in Zurich, like what's going on 313 00:18:30,596 --> 00:18:30,996 Speaker 1: over there? 314 00:18:31,316 --> 00:18:33,876 Speaker 7: To be honest, I never I was never really into 315 00:18:33,916 --> 00:18:37,116 Speaker 7: the music scene in Zurich. But there are some venues 316 00:18:37,156 --> 00:18:41,796 Speaker 7: which they're popular to invite like international artists. But the 317 00:18:41,916 --> 00:18:45,516 Speaker 7: local scene I would live. I would tell you a 318 00:18:45,596 --> 00:18:48,956 Speaker 7: naymore like even tell you it looks like it's hard, 319 00:18:49,316 --> 00:18:52,596 Speaker 7: it's hard to capture. Maybe there's not a big music scene. 320 00:18:52,596 --> 00:18:56,196 Speaker 7: That's why it's not so present. It's not like here 321 00:18:56,276 --> 00:18:59,556 Speaker 7: in Nashville, where you know, like you come to the 322 00:18:59,596 --> 00:19:02,796 Speaker 7: airport and you see like Gibson guitars and they look 323 00:19:02,876 --> 00:19:03,756 Speaker 7: like they're in a museum. 324 00:19:03,876 --> 00:19:05,356 Speaker 6: That's so unique. 325 00:19:05,476 --> 00:19:08,076 Speaker 7: You don't have that culture in Zurich, not at all. 326 00:19:08,596 --> 00:19:11,756 Speaker 1: What's it like being in a place like Tennessee just 327 00:19:11,796 --> 00:19:13,596 Speaker 1: as a musician just kind of soaking that stuff in 328 00:19:13,716 --> 00:19:17,356 Speaker 1: because so much of the music did you guys play, 329 00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:19,356 Speaker 1: at least to my ear, it sounds like coming a 330 00:19:19,396 --> 00:19:21,196 Speaker 1: lot of it coming from America as whether it's Latin 331 00:19:21,196 --> 00:19:24,076 Speaker 1: America or you know, the States of course. What's it 332 00:19:24,236 --> 00:19:27,476 Speaker 1: like to soak in the music culture around Tennessee? 333 00:19:27,836 --> 00:19:30,676 Speaker 8: I mean, it's an honor to be here. You know, 334 00:19:32,356 --> 00:19:35,236 Speaker 8: it's incredible. You can feel that music is like number 335 00:19:35,276 --> 00:19:40,116 Speaker 8: one in the city and there's so much history. Also, yeah, 336 00:19:40,156 --> 00:19:42,676 Speaker 8: it's like coming home. We have friends here, we have 337 00:19:42,796 --> 00:19:46,076 Speaker 8: our studio here, and yeah, it's a lot of fun. 338 00:19:46,156 --> 00:19:47,516 Speaker 6: You know, it's really cool. 339 00:19:48,196 --> 00:19:52,276 Speaker 1: Being so international as you guys are. How do you 340 00:19:52,316 --> 00:19:54,996 Speaker 1: guys organize your home lives? Like where you guys live in? 341 00:19:55,876 --> 00:19:58,316 Speaker 7: I mean, we always go back to Switzerland because our 342 00:19:58,396 --> 00:20:01,556 Speaker 7: family is there, so it's like the safe heaven, the 343 00:20:01,636 --> 00:20:05,196 Speaker 7: safe place because everything is just working there so nasty, 344 00:20:05,276 --> 00:20:07,676 Speaker 7: so you can just lay back and like rest a 345 00:20:07,716 --> 00:20:10,476 Speaker 7: little bit. But we're traveling a lot in this year 346 00:20:10,516 --> 00:20:12,996 Speaker 7: and even the last year it's been a lobbying on 347 00:20:13,116 --> 00:20:16,876 Speaker 7: the road, so it's a mixture between being in hotels 348 00:20:16,956 --> 00:20:19,076 Speaker 7: and being back with the family. 349 00:20:19,796 --> 00:20:21,676 Speaker 6: But it's nice. I really enjoy it. 350 00:20:21,756 --> 00:20:24,076 Speaker 7: It's also very inspiring to be on the road and 351 00:20:24,836 --> 00:20:28,156 Speaker 7: meet new people and connect with different parts of the world. 352 00:20:29,476 --> 00:20:30,756 Speaker 1: We have to take a quick break and then we'll 353 00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:37,956 Speaker 1: come back with more from Hermano's Gutiers. We're back with 354 00:20:38,076 --> 00:20:41,596 Speaker 1: more from Hermano's Gutiers. Do you guys mind playing. 355 00:20:41,516 --> 00:20:45,476 Speaker 7: Course, So let's start with the Windard Malone. That was 356 00:20:45,516 --> 00:20:48,756 Speaker 7: the first track that we actually recorded in the studio 357 00:20:49,196 --> 00:20:51,196 Speaker 7: and it was here in this room, so it feels 358 00:20:51,196 --> 00:20:52,116 Speaker 7: special to be back. 359 00:20:53,116 --> 00:20:54,036 Speaker 6: All right, man, we're. 360 00:20:53,836 --> 00:21:50,156 Speaker 3: Ready anything AKA. 361 00:22:57,236 --> 00:23:56,836 Speaker 9: The Sometime Sime way. 362 00:24:13,756 --> 00:24:16,716 Speaker 1: Such such a great energy than oh man, thank you 363 00:24:16,836 --> 00:24:19,356 Speaker 1: so much. How did you guys get connected with Dan 364 00:24:19,436 --> 00:24:21,196 Speaker 1: Ourbrock in the studio out there? 365 00:24:21,876 --> 00:24:25,276 Speaker 8: Our management, which is also based in Los Angeles, knows 366 00:24:25,356 --> 00:24:30,076 Speaker 8: the management of Easy I Sound, so the management of 367 00:24:30,156 --> 00:24:33,676 Speaker 8: Easy tom Osborne. He showed Dan on a weekly meeting. 368 00:24:34,276 --> 00:24:37,116 Speaker 8: Before the meeting started, actually he said, hey, Dan, check 369 00:24:37,156 --> 00:24:40,236 Speaker 8: out these these two brothers. And so Dan watch it 370 00:24:40,316 --> 00:24:43,716 Speaker 8: on the laptop, like ten fifteen seconds of our first video, 371 00:24:44,796 --> 00:24:46,796 Speaker 8: and then he closed the laptop and said, yeah, let's 372 00:24:46,796 --> 00:24:47,756 Speaker 8: have a call with the boys. 373 00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:48,676 Speaker 1: So that's it. 374 00:24:48,796 --> 00:24:51,236 Speaker 7: It's pretty pretty short, pretty cool. 375 00:24:51,276 --> 00:24:53,396 Speaker 8: And then we had a call for like fifteen twenty 376 00:24:53,436 --> 00:24:57,556 Speaker 8: minutes with Dan and and Alan the sound engineer, and 377 00:24:57,876 --> 00:25:00,476 Speaker 8: it was clear that we wanted to do something together 378 00:25:00,596 --> 00:25:02,076 Speaker 8: and it felt like that's it. 379 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:05,036 Speaker 1: I get why it only took fifteen seconds, man, because 380 00:25:05,116 --> 00:25:07,636 Speaker 1: like the sound is pretty immediate, like it's it's like 381 00:25:08,276 --> 00:25:10,796 Speaker 1: it doesn't take very long to realize what you're listening to. 382 00:25:11,316 --> 00:25:13,116 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is a sound you know. 383 00:25:13,476 --> 00:25:16,596 Speaker 7: I think it's harder for us to realize what's happening. Yeah, 384 00:25:16,676 --> 00:25:18,956 Speaker 7: sometimes we're on stage and we're like, what are we 385 00:25:19,116 --> 00:25:21,916 Speaker 7: doing here? You know, like are people gonna get it? 386 00:25:22,076 --> 00:25:26,556 Speaker 7: And it's just yeah, apparently it's happening. It's working. 387 00:25:26,876 --> 00:25:26,996 Speaker 9: You know. 388 00:25:27,076 --> 00:25:28,996 Speaker 1: If you're on stage with the band and like a 389 00:25:29,076 --> 00:25:31,316 Speaker 1: lead vocalist or something like that, there's stuff you can 390 00:25:31,396 --> 00:25:33,956 Speaker 1: kind of hide behind where it's just you two on 391 00:25:34,076 --> 00:25:36,836 Speaker 1: stage and you're seated with your guitars and you're playing, 392 00:25:36,956 --> 00:25:39,316 Speaker 1: like you can't kind of hide behind a ton of 393 00:25:39,396 --> 00:25:42,476 Speaker 1: theatrics or behind other people, and it's like, you guys 394 00:25:42,556 --> 00:25:45,156 Speaker 1: are kind of really exposed as I'm thinking about it. 395 00:25:45,236 --> 00:25:49,716 Speaker 8: Yeah, And funny thing is also every time still feels 396 00:25:49,796 --> 00:25:53,156 Speaker 8: like the first time that we've kind of played in 397 00:25:53,276 --> 00:25:56,356 Speaker 8: his room, you know, so it's always like we're in 398 00:25:56,436 --> 00:25:58,756 Speaker 8: front of a lot of people, but it still feels 399 00:25:58,836 --> 00:26:01,836 Speaker 8: like it's just the two of us playing, And it's 400 00:26:01,876 --> 00:26:04,516 Speaker 8: really cool because sometimes I forget about it, you know, 401 00:26:04,836 --> 00:26:07,236 Speaker 8: and it just feels good to play with my brother. 402 00:26:08,116 --> 00:26:10,876 Speaker 1: How much you guys just in your day to day 403 00:26:10,916 --> 00:26:13,076 Speaker 1: lives trying to come up with ideas to bring to one. 404 00:26:12,996 --> 00:26:18,836 Speaker 7: Another always, man, I think it's part of my daily 405 00:26:18,956 --> 00:26:21,996 Speaker 7: routine just to pick up the guitar. And sometimes it's 406 00:26:22,076 --> 00:26:25,396 Speaker 7: just like even like ten minutes, maybe five minutes. Maybe 407 00:26:25,396 --> 00:26:27,836 Speaker 7: it's an hour, maybe it's two hours. But I try 408 00:26:27,916 --> 00:26:31,476 Speaker 7: to do to play the guitar every day and just 409 00:26:31,636 --> 00:26:35,516 Speaker 7: like create something. Yeah, it always depends because sometimes I 410 00:26:35,596 --> 00:26:36,476 Speaker 7: play like every. 411 00:26:36,356 --> 00:26:39,476 Speaker 8: Day, but sometimes I also feel like that my body 412 00:26:39,516 --> 00:26:42,236 Speaker 8: and my mind kind of need to take like a 413 00:26:42,356 --> 00:26:45,036 Speaker 8: distance from the guitar because it's also very personal, you know. 414 00:26:45,716 --> 00:26:49,396 Speaker 8: I try to put my feelings into songs, you know, 415 00:26:49,516 --> 00:26:51,756 Speaker 8: and sometimes it's just I don't know, I'm not in 416 00:26:51,836 --> 00:26:56,076 Speaker 8: the mood or I'm not I don't feel any inspiration, 417 00:26:56,716 --> 00:26:59,316 Speaker 8: and then I kind of give it the space, you know, 418 00:26:59,476 --> 00:27:00,796 Speaker 8: to be like, hey, it's okay not to. 419 00:27:00,876 --> 00:27:01,516 Speaker 6: Touch the guitar. 420 00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:04,196 Speaker 8: And then it's always cool because when I kind of 421 00:27:04,236 --> 00:27:08,116 Speaker 8: play again, I always come up with something small, something new, 422 00:27:08,276 --> 00:27:11,596 Speaker 8: or something different, and so I think sometimes the space 423 00:27:11,676 --> 00:27:13,516 Speaker 8: between you and the instrument is important. 424 00:27:14,156 --> 00:27:14,876 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. 425 00:27:15,276 --> 00:27:17,956 Speaker 1: Are you able to realize what inspires you or are 426 00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:20,476 Speaker 1: you unaware? Is it just sort of coming through and 427 00:27:20,516 --> 00:27:22,756 Speaker 1: you don't even know what it is? It's activated the 428 00:27:23,596 --> 00:27:24,276 Speaker 1: creative response. 429 00:27:24,316 --> 00:27:27,676 Speaker 7: Well, I don't think if something happens, I'm not sure 430 00:27:27,876 --> 00:27:30,036 Speaker 7: this is going to be a song, but for sure 431 00:27:30,076 --> 00:27:32,276 Speaker 7: it's going to be there and it's going to be 432 00:27:32,356 --> 00:27:36,996 Speaker 7: an inspiration. I think traveling and meeting people it's a 433 00:27:37,036 --> 00:27:41,076 Speaker 7: big inspiration, or even like touring. We went to Texas 434 00:27:41,636 --> 00:27:44,276 Speaker 7: two months ago, and I remember I came back and 435 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:47,476 Speaker 7: it was just such a great tour that I felt 436 00:27:47,516 --> 00:27:50,156 Speaker 7: so inspired just because I loved what we were doing. 437 00:27:50,276 --> 00:27:52,996 Speaker 7: So I said, like, Okay, if we're going to put 438 00:27:53,036 --> 00:27:55,076 Speaker 7: out more music, I'm going to be able to do 439 00:27:55,276 --> 00:27:57,476 Speaker 7: more of that kind of stuff, you know, stuff which 440 00:27:57,556 --> 00:28:00,716 Speaker 7: is fun. So that was interesting. But I think in general, 441 00:28:00,836 --> 00:28:04,356 Speaker 7: it's life, life, which is an inspiration to come up 442 00:28:04,436 --> 00:28:07,556 Speaker 7: with new ideas. So even the fights that we're having 443 00:28:07,596 --> 00:28:12,196 Speaker 7: as brothers, it's always like we're growing on this path together. 444 00:28:12,796 --> 00:28:15,436 Speaker 7: Sometimes we're more apart from each other, but it always 445 00:28:15,476 --> 00:28:19,476 Speaker 7: brings us back. So I think like this relationship is 446 00:28:19,796 --> 00:28:23,036 Speaker 7: maybe the main source for the inspiration they were having. 447 00:28:23,756 --> 00:28:27,516 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting point about the live show inspiring 448 00:28:27,636 --> 00:28:30,396 Speaker 1: things like because you guys just started in your bedrooms 449 00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:33,236 Speaker 1: and because you guys are like just so familiar with 450 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:36,716 Speaker 1: one another, it's so comfortable in another I mean, you know, 451 00:28:36,796 --> 00:28:39,516 Speaker 1: there must be such a huge difference between this is 452 00:28:39,556 --> 00:28:42,996 Speaker 1: a song we came up with in our room by ourselves, 453 00:28:43,036 --> 00:28:44,556 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now it's the same song 454 00:28:44,596 --> 00:28:46,356 Speaker 1: we're playing on stage, and again it's just the two 455 00:28:46,436 --> 00:28:49,476 Speaker 1: of us. But adding that live element really obviously must 456 00:28:50,036 --> 00:28:52,036 Speaker 1: feel like oh shit, like we're actually no, we're showing 457 00:28:52,676 --> 00:28:55,276 Speaker 1: like we need to we need to like move an 458 00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:57,636 Speaker 1: audience some sort of way. Like do you guys think 459 00:28:57,636 --> 00:29:00,356 Speaker 1: about crafting a record in a way that, oh, we 460 00:29:00,396 --> 00:29:01,876 Speaker 1: could go out and do this live. 461 00:29:01,836 --> 00:29:02,116 Speaker 3: Or is it? 462 00:29:02,476 --> 00:29:02,516 Speaker 1: No? 463 00:29:02,836 --> 00:29:06,236 Speaker 7: No, No, it's never like, hey, we need to be 464 00:29:06,356 --> 00:29:07,436 Speaker 7: able to play that live. 465 00:29:07,556 --> 00:29:07,596 Speaker 9: No. 466 00:29:07,716 --> 00:29:11,236 Speaker 8: No, it's always like something that we that we feed 467 00:29:11,316 --> 00:29:13,556 Speaker 8: at that moment. You know, it's like I have this idea, 468 00:29:13,996 --> 00:29:17,596 Speaker 8: let's check this out. And of course if it, I mean, 469 00:29:17,876 --> 00:29:21,596 Speaker 8: almost all songs that we wrote we are able to 470 00:29:21,636 --> 00:29:25,316 Speaker 8: play in life. That's also something cool because we sound 471 00:29:25,436 --> 00:29:28,876 Speaker 8: the same on the record or almost the same as 472 00:29:28,916 --> 00:29:31,356 Speaker 8: in life and it's just the two of us. 473 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:31,596 Speaker 3: You know. 474 00:29:32,236 --> 00:29:34,956 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're not trying to overproduce it, because that would 475 00:29:34,996 --> 00:29:39,476 Speaker 7: not be us. We were always just very restricted to 476 00:29:39,676 --> 00:29:44,276 Speaker 7: two instruments, which are a representation of two souls, and 477 00:29:44,956 --> 00:29:46,996 Speaker 7: I think we just want to keep it that way. 478 00:29:47,356 --> 00:29:49,556 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like you guys are trying to necessarily 479 00:29:49,636 --> 00:29:52,436 Speaker 1: impress anyone with fancy guitar playing, like with tricks. 480 00:29:52,516 --> 00:29:54,356 Speaker 6: You know, I don't even know how to do that. 481 00:29:55,836 --> 00:29:59,236 Speaker 8: I can't shread like I mean, today we were at 482 00:29:59,316 --> 00:30:02,676 Speaker 8: the do you know the Carter Vintage Guitar store that's 483 00:30:02,796 --> 00:30:05,716 Speaker 8: like one of the coolest stars here in Nashville, and 484 00:30:06,076 --> 00:30:07,836 Speaker 8: we were checking out some guitars and there were some 485 00:30:07,996 --> 00:30:12,356 Speaker 8: guys there like, you know, like, I'm like, I could. 486 00:30:12,276 --> 00:30:12,716 Speaker 3: Never do that. 487 00:30:12,996 --> 00:30:13,876 Speaker 6: We could never do that. 488 00:30:13,996 --> 00:30:18,076 Speaker 8: But it's like what we do is like honest and real. Yeah, 489 00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:20,436 Speaker 8: the thing that that what we feel. So that's I 490 00:30:20,476 --> 00:30:22,756 Speaker 8: don't know, it's kind of a mystery as well. 491 00:30:22,836 --> 00:30:24,756 Speaker 1: Do you guys have any desire to be able to 492 00:30:24,796 --> 00:30:26,156 Speaker 1: do that or not so much? 493 00:30:26,236 --> 00:30:30,796 Speaker 7: No, not really, No, it's okay. I just want to 494 00:30:30,956 --> 00:30:36,676 Speaker 7: sound authentic, authentic and different. I think that's the main inspiration, 495 00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:40,796 Speaker 7: and maybe that's always the point that we inspire to. 496 00:30:41,356 --> 00:30:44,116 Speaker 7: We're not trying to copy someone. It's really about that. 497 00:30:44,396 --> 00:30:46,636 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the coolest thing, man, because it gets so easy, 498 00:30:46,716 --> 00:30:48,916 Speaker 1: especially when you're a guitar player and like, you know, 499 00:30:49,076 --> 00:30:51,676 Speaker 1: like just to copy other people or like to get 500 00:30:51,716 --> 00:30:54,836 Speaker 1: caught up and showing off. To be able to actually 501 00:30:55,076 --> 00:30:58,716 Speaker 1: articulate who you are as an individual on the instrument 502 00:30:58,956 --> 00:31:01,396 Speaker 1: is like it's a last art. It feels like, you know, 503 00:31:02,196 --> 00:31:05,356 Speaker 1: have you guys played with the vocalists before, like a 504 00:31:05,436 --> 00:31:09,116 Speaker 1: third person? Has anyone ever tried to in certain things? 505 00:31:09,556 --> 00:31:10,796 Speaker 1: I mean you guys, yeah. 506 00:31:10,836 --> 00:31:12,556 Speaker 8: I mean the next song that we're gonna play is 507 00:31:12,596 --> 00:31:15,516 Speaker 8: called Dressermanos because we wrote that song with Dan. 508 00:31:16,276 --> 00:31:18,996 Speaker 6: You know, that was also kind of a cool story. 509 00:31:19,076 --> 00:31:22,396 Speaker 8: We were at the studio, we almost recorded the song, 510 00:31:22,476 --> 00:31:24,916 Speaker 8: and then he came and he said, hey, he's hearing 511 00:31:25,316 --> 00:31:27,636 Speaker 8: like a melody on on on a part of the song, 512 00:31:28,556 --> 00:31:31,516 Speaker 8: and he sang, us, just what he he heard, you know, 513 00:31:32,356 --> 00:31:34,996 Speaker 8: and we tried to play his melody, but we couldn't 514 00:31:35,036 --> 00:31:37,116 Speaker 8: play it like he wanted to play them. And we 515 00:31:37,316 --> 00:31:39,796 Speaker 8: just handed him over the guitar and said, why don't 516 00:31:39,836 --> 00:31:42,236 Speaker 8: you play over it? And he just did a one 517 00:31:42,316 --> 00:31:44,756 Speaker 8: taker and and that's then when we just call it that. 518 00:31:45,156 --> 00:31:48,156 Speaker 8: The song is called Dressermanos because we also kind of 519 00:31:48,436 --> 00:31:51,556 Speaker 8: became friends with him. We have same interests and it 520 00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:53,676 Speaker 8: was so cool, you know, you. At the beginning, it 521 00:31:53,836 --> 00:31:57,436 Speaker 8: was oow, it's Dan Ourbuck and it's still Dan our Buck. 522 00:31:57,476 --> 00:31:59,236 Speaker 8: We had we have the biggest respect for him, but 523 00:31:59,396 --> 00:32:02,596 Speaker 8: we kind of became friends and we kind of got 524 00:32:02,676 --> 00:32:06,116 Speaker 8: to know him as a as a person and he's beautiful, 525 00:32:06,196 --> 00:32:09,876 Speaker 8: he's so nice and he's he has a good and yeah, 526 00:32:09,956 --> 00:32:12,236 Speaker 8: that's that's cool that we have like this in common. 527 00:32:12,556 --> 00:32:14,996 Speaker 1: Did you guys play live together or did he play over? 528 00:32:15,196 --> 00:32:18,316 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he came to shows. Sometimes We tell him, hey, 529 00:32:18,556 --> 00:32:20,356 Speaker 8: do you want to come to a show in Los 530 00:32:20,356 --> 00:32:22,996 Speaker 8: Angeles or we might be there, and he said, yeah, 531 00:32:23,076 --> 00:32:24,956 Speaker 8: I want to go with you, and then he flies 532 00:32:25,036 --> 00:32:28,476 Speaker 8: in and we have an after party and it's always cool. 533 00:32:28,636 --> 00:32:31,276 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys play together so much. Is that energy 534 00:32:31,276 --> 00:32:33,116 Speaker 1: feel a little different when you have someone else come 535 00:32:33,156 --> 00:32:33,716 Speaker 1: in to play? 536 00:32:34,396 --> 00:32:34,596 Speaker 3: Yeah? 537 00:32:35,196 --> 00:32:39,996 Speaker 7: Oh yeah. Playing with Dan on stage was really and 538 00:32:40,156 --> 00:32:43,036 Speaker 7: even he said that like because he's aware of that 539 00:32:43,196 --> 00:32:45,836 Speaker 7: tide space that we're having, Like he doesn't want to 540 00:32:46,156 --> 00:32:49,996 Speaker 7: come and like destroy that energy. But with him and 541 00:32:50,116 --> 00:32:53,236 Speaker 7: even with Adrian Casana from the Black Pumas, he's sometimes 542 00:32:53,636 --> 00:32:56,996 Speaker 7: also like joining the stage with us, it always felt 543 00:32:57,076 --> 00:33:00,476 Speaker 7: like an enrichment. It's not like what is that guy 544 00:33:00,556 --> 00:33:04,036 Speaker 7: doing here, So we're aware, aware of that, and we're 545 00:33:04,116 --> 00:33:06,916 Speaker 7: just trying to play with the right people and it's 546 00:33:07,356 --> 00:33:09,596 Speaker 7: one more time. It's like it's the feet that were 547 00:33:10,076 --> 00:33:12,676 Speaker 7: trusting and we know, Okay, this is gonna be a fit. 548 00:33:13,076 --> 00:33:14,116 Speaker 1: How do you guys know Adrian? 549 00:33:14,796 --> 00:33:16,596 Speaker 6: We know Adrian. It's a funny story. 550 00:33:16,596 --> 00:33:19,476 Speaker 7: I met him in Los Angeles in a store in 551 00:33:19,636 --> 00:33:23,436 Speaker 7: mister Freedom and I saw him and we recognized each 552 00:33:23,436 --> 00:33:25,916 Speaker 7: other and I was like, you're He was like you're 553 00:33:26,436 --> 00:33:32,076 Speaker 7: just like. Since then we kept in touch and then 554 00:33:32,156 --> 00:33:34,956 Speaker 7: we saw each other in when was the second time, 555 00:33:35,036 --> 00:33:38,316 Speaker 7: I think in Austin. First time we played together in 556 00:33:38,556 --> 00:33:42,196 Speaker 7: Austin at the Onton's Anton's and he came with us 557 00:33:42,596 --> 00:33:45,076 Speaker 7: to play on stage. And since then we just we're 558 00:33:45,116 --> 00:33:46,876 Speaker 7: in touch. And he's such a cool guy as well. 559 00:33:47,476 --> 00:33:49,876 Speaker 8: And he even flew out to We had a big 560 00:33:49,956 --> 00:33:53,236 Speaker 8: concert in Mexico City last month and he flew in 561 00:33:53,476 --> 00:33:55,956 Speaker 8: and we had time to hang out together. And yeah, 562 00:33:56,076 --> 00:33:59,436 Speaker 8: he's another brother and and it's really cool. We have 563 00:33:59,516 --> 00:34:01,076 Speaker 8: a cool connection with him as well. 564 00:34:01,476 --> 00:34:04,356 Speaker 1: He's a great d he knows so much about music. 565 00:34:04,476 --> 00:34:07,676 Speaker 7: He's an amazing guitar player. He's so talented. 566 00:34:07,956 --> 00:34:09,876 Speaker 1: Yeah, how was a Mexico City show? 567 00:34:09,956 --> 00:34:10,516 Speaker 3: What was that like? 568 00:34:11,156 --> 00:34:15,516 Speaker 7: It was a chaotic experience in so many ways because 569 00:34:16,156 --> 00:34:18,556 Speaker 7: we had a show in an open air space. It 570 00:34:18,676 --> 00:34:21,876 Speaker 7: was a beautiful venue. I remember when we told our 571 00:34:21,956 --> 00:34:23,516 Speaker 7: friend that was living there, we're going to have a 572 00:34:23,556 --> 00:34:26,036 Speaker 7: show made in Mexico and he was like, it's the 573 00:34:26,156 --> 00:34:26,676 Speaker 7: rain season. 574 00:34:26,716 --> 00:34:28,436 Speaker 6: What are you guys doing? You know, Like we're like, 575 00:34:28,556 --> 00:34:28,916 Speaker 6: I don't know. 576 00:34:30,036 --> 00:34:33,596 Speaker 7: So we had soundcheck and everything was prepared, and I 577 00:34:33,676 --> 00:34:36,196 Speaker 7: got back to the hotel room, I had a shower, 578 00:34:36,316 --> 00:34:39,076 Speaker 7: I was ready, like ready, ready, and I heard the 579 00:34:39,156 --> 00:34:42,236 Speaker 7: first thunder and I was like, no, bro, you're kidding. 580 00:34:43,396 --> 00:34:45,516 Speaker 7: So I was like, no, this is really happening. So 581 00:34:45,596 --> 00:34:47,676 Speaker 7: we went back and it started rating so much so 582 00:34:47,756 --> 00:34:49,956 Speaker 7: we had to cancel the show and a lot of 583 00:34:50,196 --> 00:34:53,356 Speaker 7: people were annoyed and like how can you do that, 584 00:34:53,596 --> 00:34:57,596 Speaker 7: Like we just came for this show. And then on 585 00:34:57,716 --> 00:35:01,876 Speaker 7: Saturday there was another nature thing happening. A big volcano 586 00:35:01,956 --> 00:35:04,396 Speaker 7: which is close to Mexico City started to be active, 587 00:35:05,956 --> 00:35:08,676 Speaker 7: so a lot of people who tried to go back 588 00:35:09,516 --> 00:35:11,556 Speaker 7: I had to stay again in Mexico City. 589 00:35:11,596 --> 00:35:12,196 Speaker 6: They were stuck. 590 00:35:12,836 --> 00:35:14,596 Speaker 7: So they were able to come through the show, which 591 00:35:14,676 --> 00:35:18,236 Speaker 7: we postponed to Sunday and there was an indoor place 592 00:35:18,916 --> 00:35:21,796 Speaker 7: and in the end it was an amazing show with 593 00:35:21,956 --> 00:35:25,036 Speaker 7: Dan and Adrian Cassana on the stage. But we got 594 00:35:25,076 --> 00:35:26,676 Speaker 7: back home and we're so tired. 595 00:35:26,556 --> 00:35:28,036 Speaker 1: In the active volcano in the back. 596 00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:32,596 Speaker 6: Things very easy, but it's funny. I like to talk 597 00:35:32,636 --> 00:35:32,956 Speaker 6: about it. 598 00:35:33,076 --> 00:35:34,596 Speaker 7: It's it's a nice experience. 599 00:35:35,916 --> 00:35:37,836 Speaker 1: We have to pause for another quick break and then 600 00:35:37,876 --> 00:35:45,476 Speaker 1: we'll come back with more from Harmono Scutierres. Before we 601 00:35:45,556 --> 00:35:48,796 Speaker 1: jump back into my conversation with Hermano Scutierres, let's hear 602 00:35:48,876 --> 00:35:51,996 Speaker 1: them play their song Trace Harmano's Live. 603 00:36:54,796 --> 00:40:10,236 Speaker 3: Over the ha ha ha mm hm m le h 604 00:40:13,676 --> 00:40:14,156 Speaker 3: m hm. 605 00:40:20,956 --> 00:40:22,116 Speaker 9: Hm. 606 00:40:37,596 --> 00:40:41,036 Speaker 1: Wow, man, I get lost. Listen to you guys, Thank 607 00:40:41,076 --> 00:40:44,116 Speaker 1: you man. How long have you been playing a lap steel? 608 00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:46,236 Speaker 6: Four years now? 609 00:40:46,676 --> 00:40:49,516 Speaker 7: And uh it happened on the on the journey that 610 00:40:49,596 --> 00:40:52,756 Speaker 7: we had through California and death welly and we did 611 00:40:52,836 --> 00:40:56,076 Speaker 7: like a commercial for this Swiss airline and it was 612 00:40:56,596 --> 00:40:58,956 Speaker 7: such a cool thing. And then we got back to 613 00:40:59,116 --> 00:41:03,396 Speaker 7: l A and there's a store in Santa Monica, Santa 614 00:41:03,476 --> 00:41:06,956 Speaker 7: Monica True to Music, and we got oh yeah, we 615 00:41:07,236 --> 00:41:10,356 Speaker 7: we visited that store and I just saw this lapstill 616 00:41:10,436 --> 00:41:11,916 Speaker 7: on the wall hanging. 617 00:41:12,636 --> 00:41:13,196 Speaker 1: So I bought it. 618 00:41:13,716 --> 00:41:15,476 Speaker 7: It was actually my brother said, yeah, get it, man, 619 00:41:15,596 --> 00:41:18,796 Speaker 7: you should should just buy it. And it just opened 620 00:41:18,796 --> 00:41:22,076 Speaker 7: a new dimension for us because it's like more western 621 00:41:22,236 --> 00:41:25,396 Speaker 7: now and it has this desert sound. So yeah, I'm 622 00:41:25,436 --> 00:41:27,316 Speaker 7: happy that I'm able to play that instrument. 623 00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:30,116 Speaker 1: How long did it take for you to feel comfortable playing? 624 00:41:30,196 --> 00:41:33,316 Speaker 7: I felt comfortable since the first moment was really like wow, 625 00:41:34,196 --> 00:41:38,076 Speaker 7: from the first string that I was sliding. 626 00:41:38,076 --> 00:41:40,836 Speaker 8: I just realized that I helped him to play the 627 00:41:40,916 --> 00:41:42,356 Speaker 8: guitar and the slide guitar. 628 00:41:42,596 --> 00:41:43,196 Speaker 3: So it was me. 629 00:41:44,316 --> 00:41:46,876 Speaker 8: I remember he was standing there. I mean he had 630 00:41:46,956 --> 00:41:51,036 Speaker 8: this white what was it, Pearla slide guitar and it 631 00:41:51,196 --> 00:41:53,316 Speaker 8: was so beautiful and the price was okay, and he 632 00:41:53,516 --> 00:41:56,676 Speaker 8: was thinking, hey, should I buy the And I'm so 633 00:41:56,836 --> 00:41:58,956 Speaker 8: happy that he did it, you know, and he's so 634 00:41:59,116 --> 00:42:02,116 Speaker 8: talented because sometimes he came up with ideas on the slide. 635 00:42:02,836 --> 00:42:05,116 Speaker 7: It's crazy, that's his instrument. 636 00:42:05,556 --> 00:42:08,236 Speaker 1: By the way, Like, no matter what arguments you guys 637 00:42:08,276 --> 00:42:10,876 Speaker 1: have now you know, it's like brotherly arguments typing. It's 638 00:42:10,916 --> 00:42:12,996 Speaker 1: like you have to credit your whole career. 639 00:42:15,316 --> 00:42:17,196 Speaker 6: I was about to say, I love how my brother 640 00:42:17,316 --> 00:42:18,156 Speaker 6: credits himself. 641 00:42:18,396 --> 00:42:21,956 Speaker 1: Sometimes do you gravitate more towards one or the other 642 00:42:21,956 --> 00:42:23,476 Speaker 1: in terms of like when you're gonna just pick something 643 00:42:23,556 --> 00:42:23,956 Speaker 1: up to play. 644 00:42:24,476 --> 00:42:26,996 Speaker 7: It's easier for me to play the lamp steel, for sure. 645 00:42:27,716 --> 00:42:31,436 Speaker 7: It's less like pressure and it's very smooth, it's very light. 646 00:42:32,596 --> 00:42:35,796 Speaker 7: But with the guitar, I usually play first the guitar 647 00:42:36,196 --> 00:42:37,956 Speaker 7: and I come up with a melody and I try 648 00:42:37,996 --> 00:42:39,956 Speaker 7: to play something with the lap steel. So this is 649 00:42:40,036 --> 00:42:44,316 Speaker 7: actually the guidance for a song. So I need both 650 00:42:44,356 --> 00:42:47,316 Speaker 7: of them. It's like I can't decide. 651 00:42:47,596 --> 00:42:49,596 Speaker 1: And you'll and you'll come up with a melody on 652 00:42:49,796 --> 00:42:50,676 Speaker 1: the lap Still. 653 00:42:51,116 --> 00:42:54,636 Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes I do. I mean, for this song, my 654 00:42:54,676 --> 00:42:57,916 Speaker 7: brother came up with the melody and it was clear 655 00:42:57,956 --> 00:43:00,756 Speaker 7: from the beginning that it just needs a lap still, 656 00:43:00,916 --> 00:43:02,036 Speaker 7: I don't have to play the guitar. 657 00:43:02,756 --> 00:43:05,876 Speaker 6: And yeah, it really depends what was the. 658 00:43:05,996 --> 00:43:10,276 Speaker 1: Reception in Switzerland, Like, I mean, I guess, at what 659 00:43:10,356 --> 00:43:11,876 Speaker 1: point did you realize you're going to be able to 660 00:43:11,876 --> 00:43:13,476 Speaker 1: take this outside of Switzerland. 661 00:43:14,196 --> 00:43:15,916 Speaker 7: I think it was the first concert that we had 662 00:43:15,956 --> 00:43:19,836 Speaker 7: in Mexico City. It was before the pandemic, and that 663 00:43:20,036 --> 00:43:23,956 Speaker 7: was the first show overseas, and there was a friend 664 00:43:24,036 --> 00:43:28,276 Speaker 7: inviting us and just seeing that kind of attention and 665 00:43:28,396 --> 00:43:31,036 Speaker 7: the presence and that people can get it in a 666 00:43:31,116 --> 00:43:34,356 Speaker 7: different country. That was amazing to see. And oh wow, 667 00:43:34,436 --> 00:43:36,796 Speaker 7: there's so much more that we could discover with our 668 00:43:36,916 --> 00:43:39,076 Speaker 7: music there, like there are no boundaries. 669 00:43:40,196 --> 00:43:43,836 Speaker 1: What was it like growing up Latino in Switzerland? Was 670 00:43:43,876 --> 00:43:44,916 Speaker 1: that a weird experience? 671 00:43:45,316 --> 00:43:46,116 Speaker 6: No, not weird. 672 00:43:46,196 --> 00:43:50,916 Speaker 8: It was always I realized, like when I was around twelve, 673 00:43:51,636 --> 00:43:54,516 Speaker 8: that it's like gift that had I have like both 674 00:43:54,636 --> 00:43:56,956 Speaker 8: sides in me, you know, because we had like in Switzerland, 675 00:43:57,036 --> 00:44:00,676 Speaker 8: you had like the Swiss boys and then you have 676 00:44:00,836 --> 00:44:04,436 Speaker 8: like the how you say, the foreigners, no like but 677 00:44:04,556 --> 00:44:07,716 Speaker 8: the immigrants. Yeah, And so I was always part of both, 678 00:44:07,796 --> 00:44:09,916 Speaker 8: you know. I could be with this with with friends, 679 00:44:09,956 --> 00:44:13,076 Speaker 8: and I could be with the like with my soccer friends. 680 00:44:13,676 --> 00:44:16,236 Speaker 8: And it was always like I'm both and also like 681 00:44:16,356 --> 00:44:19,956 Speaker 8: to talk Spanish in Ecuador and to come home and 682 00:44:20,076 --> 00:44:22,476 Speaker 8: to understand yeah German. 683 00:44:22,596 --> 00:44:24,756 Speaker 6: It was it was really a gift. 684 00:44:24,876 --> 00:44:25,356 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a way. 685 00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:28,516 Speaker 7: It's also there's a feeling of feeling lost sometimes of 686 00:44:28,556 --> 00:44:32,036 Speaker 7: course that's not part of either this culture or the other, 687 00:44:33,156 --> 00:44:36,756 Speaker 7: which is I think a refreshing feeling sometimes and sometimes 688 00:44:36,956 --> 00:44:39,436 Speaker 7: you just want to have that thing. Okay, I belong 689 00:44:39,476 --> 00:44:41,676 Speaker 7: to this kind of culture, but I think it was 690 00:44:41,756 --> 00:44:45,116 Speaker 7: the coolest thing to grow up with, the with the 691 00:44:45,236 --> 00:44:48,356 Speaker 7: Latin part, you know, even like the possibility to go 692 00:44:48,476 --> 00:44:53,236 Speaker 7: to Ecuador and visit our grandfather and grandmother all the cousin. 693 00:44:54,556 --> 00:44:57,036 Speaker 7: I think that was an inspiration for us as well, 694 00:44:57,396 --> 00:45:00,996 Speaker 7: and we try to transmit that through music. I mean, 695 00:45:01,036 --> 00:45:04,236 Speaker 7: we have two songs in the set it's especially dedication 696 00:45:04,436 --> 00:45:07,516 Speaker 7: to the Latin culture, and whenever we play those tracks, 697 00:45:07,556 --> 00:45:11,436 Speaker 7: it reminds of us abuela and just the primos and 698 00:45:11,636 --> 00:45:15,556 Speaker 7: just being there with the whole family. So and that's 699 00:45:15,596 --> 00:45:19,036 Speaker 7: something I think. The family, the meaning of family, it's 700 00:45:19,116 --> 00:45:22,236 Speaker 7: not so present. Maybe in Switzerland it's different. 701 00:45:22,596 --> 00:45:24,196 Speaker 1: What is it like, I don't know. 702 00:45:24,476 --> 00:45:28,156 Speaker 7: I think Swiss people are more They're holding back their 703 00:45:28,156 --> 00:45:31,036 Speaker 7: emotions a little bit. It's not so easy to share 704 00:45:31,196 --> 00:45:33,556 Speaker 7: emotions or even like tell someone I love you, I 705 00:45:34,196 --> 00:45:37,436 Speaker 7: care for you. It's I'm not saying like it's not happening. 706 00:45:37,516 --> 00:45:40,876 Speaker 7: It's just like different in Ecuador. We went there when 707 00:45:40,916 --> 00:45:43,516 Speaker 7: we were like you were sixteen, maybe I was eight. 708 00:45:43,636 --> 00:45:43,996 Speaker 3: I don't know. 709 00:45:44,156 --> 00:45:46,236 Speaker 7: It was like after a lot of a few years. 710 00:45:46,356 --> 00:45:48,516 Speaker 7: Maybe I got it wrong, but It was a trip 711 00:45:48,636 --> 00:45:50,756 Speaker 7: that we haven't been in an Ecuador for a long time. 712 00:45:51,556 --> 00:45:54,596 Speaker 7: And I saw my aunt and I didn't see her 713 00:45:54,636 --> 00:45:56,716 Speaker 7: for like, I don't know, ten years, and she cried 714 00:45:56,836 --> 00:45:59,556 Speaker 7: and she was so emotional, and I was like overwhelmed 715 00:45:59,596 --> 00:46:02,636 Speaker 7: by so many emotions. And I don't think that's something 716 00:46:02,716 --> 00:46:06,196 Speaker 7: you see in Switzerland. Like whereat people are able to 717 00:46:06,356 --> 00:46:10,036 Speaker 7: express theirselves through emotions, it's different. 718 00:46:11,116 --> 00:46:13,156 Speaker 1: Yeah, that really is a gift. Then to be able 719 00:46:13,196 --> 00:46:14,996 Speaker 1: to get both of those, I mean, to be able 720 00:46:14,996 --> 00:46:18,716 Speaker 1: to operate on both those two cultures that are distinctly different. 721 00:46:18,916 --> 00:46:21,116 Speaker 1: In those emotional ranges, you know, you can kind of 722 00:46:21,156 --> 00:46:24,516 Speaker 1: be more reserved and also to be able to express 723 00:46:24,556 --> 00:46:26,196 Speaker 1: yourself completely and full. 724 00:46:26,276 --> 00:46:29,236 Speaker 8: The thing is also about Switzerland, which I get now, 725 00:46:29,436 --> 00:46:34,076 Speaker 8: is like in Switzerland everything looks perfect, and in almost 726 00:46:34,116 --> 00:46:36,876 Speaker 8: every sense it is perfect. You know, you have everything there, 727 00:46:37,436 --> 00:46:40,636 Speaker 8: and so it's kind of difficult to act or to 728 00:46:40,796 --> 00:46:43,916 Speaker 8: tell something that something is not perfect. You know, for example, 729 00:46:43,996 --> 00:46:46,556 Speaker 8: in a relationship, if you have issues with your family, 730 00:46:46,916 --> 00:46:50,036 Speaker 8: and I think in Latin America and especially Ecuador, it 731 00:46:50,156 --> 00:46:52,836 Speaker 8: is common. You know that you know that you have 732 00:46:52,996 --> 00:46:55,836 Speaker 8: fights and you get loud and you scream at each 733 00:46:55,876 --> 00:46:58,636 Speaker 8: other and in Switzerland everything is more reserved, which is 734 00:46:59,596 --> 00:47:03,076 Speaker 8: also good because the culture is different. But that's something 735 00:47:03,476 --> 00:47:05,876 Speaker 8: that I got to know now when I'm older. 736 00:47:06,436 --> 00:47:07,436 Speaker 1: How did your parents meet? 737 00:47:08,276 --> 00:47:09,036 Speaker 6: That's the funniest. 738 00:47:09,116 --> 00:47:12,156 Speaker 8: Sorry, my father was maybe thirty years old and then 739 00:47:12,236 --> 00:47:15,676 Speaker 8: he worked for a European company but in Ecuador for 740 00:47:16,356 --> 00:47:20,756 Speaker 8: the pharmacy, pharmacy business, and then our mother was his secretary. 741 00:47:21,436 --> 00:47:24,916 Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a perfect story. 742 00:47:25,316 --> 00:47:27,436 Speaker 8: And so he had to go back or he wanted 743 00:47:27,476 --> 00:47:30,236 Speaker 8: to go back, and then our mother showed us the letters, 744 00:47:30,276 --> 00:47:31,996 Speaker 8: and then our father wrote her a letter. 745 00:47:32,196 --> 00:47:32,836 Speaker 6: Do you remember that? 746 00:47:33,436 --> 00:47:37,156 Speaker 7: Yeah, the most honest letter, like selling there's like a 747 00:47:37,196 --> 00:47:39,796 Speaker 7: fifty to fifty chance that you're gonna make it because 748 00:47:39,796 --> 00:47:42,036 Speaker 7: of this this, and he just told her all the 749 00:47:42,156 --> 00:47:46,196 Speaker 7: factors that are different from being in Ecuador, just like 750 00:47:46,276 --> 00:47:49,596 Speaker 7: a very Swiss approach, you know, like she's hate it. 751 00:47:50,116 --> 00:47:52,796 Speaker 7: She was, she was all in and like she left 752 00:47:52,916 --> 00:47:53,956 Speaker 7: Ecuador forever. 753 00:47:54,556 --> 00:47:55,636 Speaker 1: How old was she at that time? 754 00:47:55,796 --> 00:47:59,836 Speaker 7: Like she was twenty she was twenty five, twenty six, Yeah, 755 00:48:00,356 --> 00:48:00,956 Speaker 7: she was young. 756 00:48:01,276 --> 00:48:01,476 Speaker 3: Wow. 757 00:48:01,676 --> 00:48:05,596 Speaker 8: And also like German, like the language that's so hard 758 00:48:05,716 --> 00:48:08,596 Speaker 8: to learn. But our mother big respect for her that 759 00:48:08,716 --> 00:48:12,596 Speaker 8: she did it, and she I mean nowadays, she's more Swiss. 760 00:48:12,756 --> 00:48:13,316 Speaker 6: Than we are. 761 00:48:13,396 --> 00:48:13,556 Speaker 1: You know. 762 00:48:14,076 --> 00:48:17,796 Speaker 8: It's funny in my opinion, but yeah, big respect that 763 00:48:17,916 --> 00:48:22,436 Speaker 8: she she left her parents in Ecuador, her sisters, brothers, 764 00:48:22,516 --> 00:48:25,876 Speaker 8: and she just moved to Switzerland without knowing anybody. 765 00:48:26,556 --> 00:48:29,996 Speaker 6: She told me that she always gotta marry a foreigner. 766 00:48:30,236 --> 00:48:32,916 Speaker 6: She always worked, that's through she had that vision. 767 00:48:33,516 --> 00:48:35,836 Speaker 1: Was her family upset, No, I think they got it. 768 00:48:36,156 --> 00:48:38,756 Speaker 7: I think they were like, yeah, if you have to 769 00:48:38,836 --> 00:48:41,476 Speaker 7: do it, you leave, but you can always come back. 770 00:48:41,556 --> 00:48:43,916 Speaker 7: This is your place, don't worry about it. 771 00:48:44,476 --> 00:48:47,516 Speaker 8: It was also a chance, you know, in the late seventies, 772 00:48:47,636 --> 00:48:50,076 Speaker 8: you know, to go to Europe from Ecuador and our 773 00:48:50,556 --> 00:48:55,036 Speaker 8: grandparents there were middle class, middle class, lower class a 774 00:48:55,076 --> 00:48:55,716 Speaker 8: bit also like. 775 00:48:57,196 --> 00:48:59,876 Speaker 6: How do you say humble people? 776 00:48:59,916 --> 00:49:00,076 Speaker 3: You know? 777 00:49:00,236 --> 00:49:00,556 Speaker 6: And so. 778 00:49:02,196 --> 00:49:04,676 Speaker 8: I remember that her grandfather talked to my father and 779 00:49:04,836 --> 00:49:07,836 Speaker 8: also like he just said, yeah, just treated with respect 780 00:49:07,916 --> 00:49:09,716 Speaker 8: and she can us come back. 781 00:49:10,796 --> 00:49:13,636 Speaker 1: Did you guys speak German primarily at home? 782 00:49:14,036 --> 00:49:14,236 Speaker 3: Yeah? 783 00:49:14,276 --> 00:49:20,716 Speaker 6: It was German. When I speak Spanish, it's always it's always, it's. 784 00:49:21,076 --> 00:49:25,036 Speaker 7: Always the same thing, man, the big brother being mean 785 00:49:25,156 --> 00:49:29,116 Speaker 7: to the little brother. No, I am it's it was 786 00:49:29,196 --> 00:49:34,036 Speaker 7: mostly German with my father, but our father left they 787 00:49:34,116 --> 00:49:37,476 Speaker 7: got separated when I was seven, so I mostly spoke 788 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:41,036 Speaker 7: Spanish to my mom. That's why he speaks better Spanish. 789 00:49:40,756 --> 00:49:46,756 Speaker 6: Than my brother's that's the reason. 790 00:49:48,396 --> 00:49:50,636 Speaker 1: So so, and when they got separated, your mom just 791 00:49:50,676 --> 00:49:51,916 Speaker 1: decided to stay out there still. 792 00:49:52,276 --> 00:49:54,796 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they lived pretty close to each other, 793 00:49:54,956 --> 00:49:57,556 Speaker 8: so yeah, yeah, it was clear that she's kind of 794 00:49:57,556 --> 00:49:58,396 Speaker 8: stay in Switzerland. 795 00:49:59,316 --> 00:50:01,316 Speaker 1: It feels even more brave in a way. 796 00:50:01,436 --> 00:50:03,076 Speaker 6: I don't know why she's super brave. 797 00:50:03,836 --> 00:50:06,516 Speaker 1: The first few records, you guys recorded, no label on 798 00:50:06,596 --> 00:50:10,316 Speaker 1: anyone until the most recent records. Yes, it's correct. What 799 00:50:10,516 --> 00:50:12,996 Speaker 1: was it like putting now records all by yourself? Did 800 00:50:13,036 --> 00:50:16,076 Speaker 1: you guys have a vision or a strategy or is 801 00:50:16,116 --> 00:50:18,916 Speaker 1: it sort of just like let's make some stuff, put 802 00:50:18,956 --> 00:50:20,116 Speaker 1: it up, see what happens. 803 00:50:20,196 --> 00:50:20,996 Speaker 6: No strategy. 804 00:50:21,796 --> 00:50:24,516 Speaker 7: We just wanted to have our own collection of vinyl 805 00:50:24,796 --> 00:50:28,236 Speaker 7: because it's just such a strong thing to have in 806 00:50:28,316 --> 00:50:31,516 Speaker 7: your mind, just to pass it on. So it was 807 00:50:31,596 --> 00:50:35,796 Speaker 7: important that we create something which is honest. And then 808 00:50:36,036 --> 00:50:40,636 Speaker 7: it was also very organic, like creating new music was easy. 809 00:50:41,076 --> 00:50:45,116 Speaker 7: It was just like, yeah, happening so fast, and looking back, 810 00:50:45,156 --> 00:50:48,356 Speaker 7: it's crazy, like every year we had a new record coming. 811 00:50:49,276 --> 00:50:51,196 Speaker 7: But it was at the same time so much fun. 812 00:50:51,316 --> 00:50:53,476 Speaker 7: It was because it was a side thing for us. 813 00:50:53,916 --> 00:50:56,796 Speaker 7: It was like the thing which kept us alive in 814 00:50:56,876 --> 00:51:00,436 Speaker 7: a way, you know, from maybe the routines and all 815 00:51:00,516 --> 00:51:04,436 Speaker 7: that stuff, which is not so inspiring. But we're happy 816 00:51:04,516 --> 00:51:07,596 Speaker 7: now that we're having this label in the back of us. 817 00:51:07,716 --> 00:51:11,076 Speaker 7: It's a beautiful feeling to have people around you. 818 00:51:11,196 --> 00:51:15,196 Speaker 1: Now, how did you guys record the first few records? 819 00:51:15,276 --> 00:51:16,396 Speaker 1: Is that? Did you guys do it on your own 820 00:51:16,476 --> 00:51:17,036 Speaker 1: or did you do it? 821 00:51:17,436 --> 00:51:18,156 Speaker 3: We had a studio. 822 00:51:18,236 --> 00:51:22,476 Speaker 8: The first two records were recorded in Berlin at the 823 00:51:22,556 --> 00:51:27,156 Speaker 8: friends place. He had his studio and he offered us, hey, 824 00:51:27,236 --> 00:51:30,916 Speaker 8: if you ever want to record something, this is your studio. 825 00:51:30,996 --> 00:51:34,916 Speaker 8: And then we did this twice like this journey road trip, 826 00:51:34,996 --> 00:51:39,476 Speaker 8: you know. And after that we found a cool studio 827 00:51:39,596 --> 00:51:43,556 Speaker 8: and the cool recording engineer in Zurich, and so the 828 00:51:43,756 --> 00:51:46,756 Speaker 8: last two albums we recorded in Zurich because we also 829 00:51:46,836 --> 00:51:49,516 Speaker 8: didn't have the time to do another road trip. 830 00:51:49,556 --> 00:51:49,716 Speaker 3: You know. 831 00:51:50,276 --> 00:51:52,676 Speaker 8: It was like, we want to record now and we 832 00:51:52,796 --> 00:51:55,836 Speaker 8: have everything here, and so in total we did like 833 00:51:56,476 --> 00:52:01,036 Speaker 8: four albums and one single, two singles. 834 00:52:01,196 --> 00:52:03,636 Speaker 1: So yeah, when you guys realized you were going to 835 00:52:03,756 --> 00:52:07,836 Speaker 1: record with Easy, I did you have the songs for 836 00:52:08,516 --> 00:52:10,556 Speaker 1: the new record ready or did you have to? 837 00:52:10,756 --> 00:52:14,596 Speaker 8: I mean, we knew, like in December we're going to 838 00:52:14,676 --> 00:52:18,396 Speaker 8: record in March, and we had ideas, you know, we 839 00:52:18,516 --> 00:52:22,276 Speaker 8: were always playing. But then we had like, okay, let's 840 00:52:22,316 --> 00:52:25,796 Speaker 8: write this album. And it was a very intense and 841 00:52:25,956 --> 00:52:30,076 Speaker 8: special two months because we wanted to we wanted to 842 00:52:30,196 --> 00:52:33,716 Speaker 8: impress then, you know, and he was impressed by the 843 00:52:33,836 --> 00:52:37,076 Speaker 8: way that we were because after two days we were 844 00:52:37,156 --> 00:52:39,596 Speaker 8: done with recording the bass, you know, like we did 845 00:52:40,116 --> 00:52:43,636 Speaker 8: eight songs in two days, and he was like, so, 846 00:52:43,756 --> 00:52:45,516 Speaker 8: what should we do now, and we were like, let's 847 00:52:45,516 --> 00:52:48,316 Speaker 8: do start with overdubs and everything, and then we came 848 00:52:48,516 --> 00:52:51,716 Speaker 8: well prepared. But it was like also two months before 849 00:52:51,876 --> 00:52:56,476 Speaker 8: every day playing together, writing songs and looking for new melodies, 850 00:52:56,676 --> 00:52:59,356 Speaker 8: and it was not always that easy, you know, but 851 00:52:59,476 --> 00:53:02,956 Speaker 8: it was cool to come to the studio, pluck the 852 00:53:03,036 --> 00:53:04,636 Speaker 8: guitar in, and to be ready. 853 00:53:04,796 --> 00:53:07,716 Speaker 1: Dang, So you guys record. You guys wrote the record 854 00:53:08,436 --> 00:53:11,516 Speaker 1: in two months and then basically recorded the majority of it, 855 00:53:11,636 --> 00:53:13,356 Speaker 1: like the vast majority of it, in two days. 856 00:53:13,476 --> 00:53:14,596 Speaker 6: Yes, the base of it. 857 00:53:14,836 --> 00:53:18,636 Speaker 7: Yeah, we recorded in two days. But there were overdubs 858 00:53:18,956 --> 00:53:23,076 Speaker 7: of course, happening in the next days, but the base 859 00:53:23,156 --> 00:53:24,276 Speaker 7: of the record was done. 860 00:53:24,956 --> 00:53:26,916 Speaker 1: I love how quickly you got I mean, that's just it. 861 00:53:27,476 --> 00:53:30,196 Speaker 1: It feels like I mean we had to work that, 862 00:53:30,356 --> 00:53:31,476 Speaker 1: we had to in a way. 863 00:53:31,556 --> 00:53:34,276 Speaker 7: Yeah, there was I don't think you get this always 864 00:53:34,276 --> 00:53:38,676 Speaker 7: in your life's one lifetime experience. So we took it 865 00:53:38,916 --> 00:53:41,516 Speaker 7: very seriously and we felt a little bit of pressure, 866 00:53:41,556 --> 00:53:44,916 Speaker 7: of course. Yeah. From the first moment, we felt like, Okay, 867 00:53:44,996 --> 00:53:46,236 Speaker 7: this is going to be okay, this is going to 868 00:53:46,316 --> 00:53:49,196 Speaker 7: be great because the connection with Dan was so on 869 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:53,196 Speaker 7: the same level, which made it so easy to perform 870 00:53:53,316 --> 00:53:56,116 Speaker 7: here in the studio, which this energy because it's an 871 00:53:56,156 --> 00:54:00,036 Speaker 7: amazing and unique place. So that pressure that we felt 872 00:54:00,356 --> 00:54:04,596 Speaker 7: before going to Nashville just disappeared. From the first moment 873 00:54:04,636 --> 00:54:07,476 Speaker 7: that we got here. There was not such a thing 874 00:54:07,636 --> 00:54:10,796 Speaker 7: like hey, you have to It's like about creating something 875 00:54:10,836 --> 00:54:15,436 Speaker 7: beautiful together. That was nice to see how it works 876 00:54:15,796 --> 00:54:17,516 Speaker 7: and how he approaches a record. 877 00:54:18,036 --> 00:54:19,116 Speaker 6: I didn't feel the pressure. 878 00:54:19,316 --> 00:54:26,516 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Are you guys gonna record another record out there? Yeah? 879 00:54:26,636 --> 00:54:28,596 Speaker 6: Yes, this year we're gonna come back. 880 00:54:28,716 --> 00:54:29,996 Speaker 1: Do you have some material already? 881 00:54:30,116 --> 00:54:31,076 Speaker 6: Yeah, we have ideas. 882 00:54:31,436 --> 00:54:33,636 Speaker 8: After this tour, we're gonna go home and we're gonna 883 00:54:33,676 --> 00:54:38,276 Speaker 8: start like working, but we have new stuff ready and 884 00:54:38,676 --> 00:54:41,196 Speaker 8: we just have to check it out to be together 885 00:54:41,316 --> 00:54:41,956 Speaker 8: and play together. 886 00:54:42,516 --> 00:54:46,036 Speaker 1: I know you're talking about Gestavo and film as an inspiration. 887 00:54:46,116 --> 00:54:48,596 Speaker 1: Do you guys want to do soundtracks ever? 888 00:54:49,196 --> 00:54:49,396 Speaker 3: Yeah? 889 00:54:49,476 --> 00:54:53,076 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, We're waiting for the right director with the 890 00:54:53,676 --> 00:54:57,916 Speaker 7: perfect story which fits in, just like to create an experience. 891 00:54:58,196 --> 00:55:01,516 Speaker 7: But there's no rush, I mean, and also right now 892 00:55:01,636 --> 00:55:04,556 Speaker 7: there's no time. I mean, we're busy with own things, 893 00:55:04,836 --> 00:55:07,836 Speaker 7: own projects, and this next record we want to take 894 00:55:07,876 --> 00:55:10,676 Speaker 7: it as series as possible, and that's just be lazy 895 00:55:10,676 --> 00:55:10,996 Speaker 7: about it. 896 00:55:11,116 --> 00:55:11,236 Speaker 3: Then. 897 00:55:11,556 --> 00:55:13,916 Speaker 7: I think it's just all very natural and we trust 898 00:55:13,996 --> 00:55:17,516 Speaker 7: in the process and things are coming they've not It's okay. 899 00:55:18,116 --> 00:55:20,476 Speaker 1: Oh man, Thank you guys of course, man, the pleasure. 900 00:55:20,636 --> 00:55:22,636 Speaker 1: Glad we got to talk and thanks for coming on. 901 00:55:23,156 --> 00:55:26,076 Speaker 7: Man, it was an amazing conversation, really cool. 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