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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey Hey Elizabeth, Hey there, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's ridiculous, I do sure, Okay, this came from

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Speaker 1: the interns. Of course they don't have any original thoughts

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Speaker 1: of their own. Yeah, so this came from someone on

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Speaker 1: instant and their dogs and their dogs. So that's another

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Speaker 1: two strikes right there. So they they forwarded to me

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Speaker 1: from Instagram a message from a cool dad, a guy

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Speaker 1: named Stu dear Love out of New Zealand. He's got

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Speaker 1: two kids who are major rude dudes and apparently also

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Speaker 1: cool too.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to the deer loves Now.

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Speaker 1: Stu apparently does not abide by the Geneva Convention and

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Speaker 1: sent us an absolute war crime of a suggestion for

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Speaker 1: something ridiculous. Now, you may have noticed I have been

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Speaker 1: talking about mashups.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed that.

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Speaker 1: Because I got so disgusted with them and they all

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Speaker 1: were kind of the same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't fun for me anymore.

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Speaker 2: Then I got you.

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Speaker 1: This brought it all back. Yeah, and he was just

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Speaker 1: like super apologetic for having sent this. There's a company,

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Speaker 1: it's like a pub and and brewery in Wisconsin called

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Speaker 1: Drink Wis constably, ridiculously drink whis constantly and they have

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Speaker 1: all sorts of you know, various bruise and they make vodkas.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is not like a non alcoholic.

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Speaker 1: They like they have like beers whiskey, and so they

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Speaker 1: have this vodka that they make for the there's this

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Speaker 1: is the fifth year of something called curd Fest, like

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Speaker 1: Cheese Wisconsin, and so they had they throw this curd

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Speaker 1: Fest and they came up with cheese curd vodka.

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Speaker 2: Do they ferment the cheese curds or just kind of float?

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Speaker 1: It's like, what do you call it? I can't think

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Speaker 1: of the word where you infuse. So I think they

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Speaker 1: just let the cheese. I don't know. It's so it

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Speaker 1: looks like orangeina colored.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is just like cheddar cheese curds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uniquely Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones who gave us the orange cheddar differentiated

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Speaker 2: from New.

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Speaker 1: York checks exactly. And so their notion was that you

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Speaker 1: were going to use this in Bloody Mary's and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, they put so much garbage in Bloody Mary's.

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Speaker 1: I was, I was at a restaurant the other day

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Speaker 1: and I saw some of they put like bacon. There's

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Speaker 1: like a corn dog and there was a palm front

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Speaker 1: and then a flip flop.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but they do.

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Speaker 1: Told they put bacon. I hate bacon and everything. AnyWho,

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Speaker 1: They were going to use it in Bloody Mary's, but

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Speaker 1: then people start requesting shots of it, and then people

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Speaker 1: were getting a ranch chaser for.

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Speaker 2: It, like a shot glass of ranch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So you take a shot of cheese curd vodka

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Speaker 1: and then you chase it with you know, ranch. There's

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Speaker 1: a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's just gonna stick to your esophagus like nothing's gonna

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Speaker 2: hit your stomach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stu, thank you for bringing me back into the

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Speaker 1: world mash up.

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Speaker 2: You seem nice.

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Speaker 1: The article I found about it was in Vice, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know Vice was still.

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Speaker 2: They came back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're back anyhow. That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: You know what else is ridiculous, Elizabeth?

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Speaker 1: What else?

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Speaker 2: You have some time to talk about our lords and saviors?

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Speaker 2: The insane clown posse. Oh my god, what I'm really saying,

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth is have you heard of their fans? The Juggalos?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I got you for you. Yeah, this is ridiculous

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Speaker 2: crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. Heis, and

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Speaker 2: cause it's always ninety nine percent murder free, a one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh Elizabeth, oh.

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Speaker 2: Saren, Why are you looking at me like that? Do

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Speaker 2: you already know about the Juggalos? That's why you're like,

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Speaker 2: I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the face paint.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know about the face paint, so you're not

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Speaker 2: a juggle lette.

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Speaker 1: What I know about the Juggalos will fill your diaper?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know anythink about. I just

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Speaker 1: know that there's the face paint and there's a soda

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Speaker 1: that they like. Yeah, fago, yes see that's two things

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Speaker 1: some total of knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, boy, are you in for a surprise. And

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Speaker 2: they used to be phil a diaper.

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Speaker 1: They were the backup dancers for Taylor Swift for a while, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, choreographers actually, but also one was a backup dancer

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Speaker 2: other one was a backup dancer slash choreographer. I think

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Speaker 2: I should point that out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, double threat in fairness.

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Speaker 2: To violent Jay, so insane clown Posse is a rapper,

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Speaker 2: a duo from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: It's a duo. I thought it was like a full

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Speaker 1: on band.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's primarily a due There's been different lineups over

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Speaker 2: the years. So and you were right. They are huge

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Speaker 2: fans of the soda called Fago, which is also a

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Speaker 2: Detroit based soda company. The rappers are known to spray

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Speaker 2: the two liter bottles of Fago on their fans from

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Speaker 2: the stage, and the fans spray themselves and it's just

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Speaker 2: like fay Go everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Feo everyone Dicky.

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Speaker 2: So a little bit about their fans, Elizabeth, as you

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Speaker 2: know are now know they're called the Juggalos and the

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Speaker 2: fems and females are a juggle lets u lets. It's

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Speaker 2: just like how The Grateful Dead has dead heads, insane

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Speaker 2: clown Posse has jugglos and jugglettes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there aren't dead ets.

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Speaker 2: No, well the dead heads they don't have the Latin

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Speaker 2: version of like what's gender are? They're just everybody dead heads.

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Speaker 2: They're all dead. What does it matter? You've probably seen

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Speaker 2: these Juggalos on TV. They occasionally show up on shows

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Speaker 2: like Jerry Springer, Doctor Phil, maybe a Vice documentary. Right now,

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Speaker 2: the band Insane Clown Posse. Do you know much about

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Speaker 2: their music? Are you down with the ICP side?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I heard any song.

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Speaker 1: I could not tell you. I feel like they came

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Speaker 1: around the rap rock era.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually kind of predate. They do predate the

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Speaker 2: rap rock era in a lot of ways, but they

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Speaker 2: also come in right on the the the peaks of that.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to explain. I'll point it this way.

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Speaker 2: I have answers for you. Thank you so much, all

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Speaker 2: kinds of answers. Some of these answers you may not

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Speaker 2: even want, but I have them.

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Speaker 1: Don't they put the face makeup in their facial hair?

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Speaker 2: Yes they do, Elizabeth, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a little bit flash.

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Speaker 2: They're all coming back. Yeah, it's like watching someone with amnesia.

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Speaker 1: It's like a non flashback.

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Speaker 2: So welcome back to the war So Insane Clown Possis

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Speaker 2: I told you it consists of two rappers, both white

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Speaker 2: boys from Detroit. And if you were wondering, they weren't

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Speaker 2: riding Eminem's coat tails. They pre date Eminem Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and kid Rock. They were the first of the famous

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Speaker 2: white boys on the mic in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Did they play like festivals?

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Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of festivals they.

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Speaker 1: Play, like the Warp Tours.

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Speaker 2: I didn't look up to all their events, but I

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Speaker 2: maybe they might have. I can't say yes, or I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: To think if there was a place where I would

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Speaker 1: have seen them, but I don't think so, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You'll actually I do know, but I'll get to that later.

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Speaker 2: You know what they started spitting bars as ICP back

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: What yeah, what were they like their kids?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were kids were they were a little older

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Speaker 2: than that. But now there as they said, there's been

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Speaker 2: multiple line ups over the years, but the essentially it's

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Speaker 2: Violent j that's the bigger, taller one whose government name

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Speaker 2: is Joseph Ruse. And then there's his partner, Shaggy Too Dope.

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Speaker 2: His government the number two, Shaggy Too Dope, as.

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Speaker 1: In like two dopes in one.

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Speaker 2: There you go, perfect just like that, and the government

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Speaker 2: his government name is Joseph Utzler. It don't worry, We'll

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Speaker 2: just called them Violent Jay and Shaggy Too Dope and

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Speaker 2: keep things simple.

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Speaker 1: Lame of a band name is insane clown posse. What

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Speaker 1: are you talking about there with Cherry Poppin?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding, that's what you think when you when

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Speaker 2: I hear that the the insane clown posse, I don't

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Speaker 2: think of like the alliteration or sound rather of it,

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Speaker 2: but think of it this way. We're talking about a

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Speaker 2: group of insane clowns, like or it's a cowboy group

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Speaker 2: chasing a bunch of insane clown Is it modifying possi

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Speaker 2: clown or is people chasing them rounding them up? So

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Speaker 2: I don't know which one, but either way I want

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Speaker 2: to know about them. Well, Elizabeth, the Violent Jay, as

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Speaker 2: I told you, is the bigger one. The shorter one

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Speaker 2: is shaggy twoop. I don't have any photos, but in

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Speaker 2: case you see the ones, there's usually a height difference

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Speaker 2: in their photos. That way, exactly exactly, very much like Burtary.

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Speaker 2: Actually so violent Jay. He was born in Berkeley, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: which is not at all like the Berkeley you know

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Violent Jay was the last of three kids. His parents

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Speaker 2: were together when he was born, and but that didn't

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Speaker 2: last long because his pop split when he was about

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Speaker 2: two years old. Not only did he do the disappearing actors,

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Speaker 2: he also took all of the family's money before he bounced, right,

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Speaker 2: real class act totally, So that left violent Jay has

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Speaker 2: two older siblings and now their single mother. So Mama

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Speaker 2: gets a job pushing a mop as a janitor. She's

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Speaker 2: keeping a roof over their heads. But for food, the

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Speaker 2: family mostly counts on like local food pantries, canned food

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Speaker 2: drives at school. For clothes, the family relies on rummage

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Speaker 2: sales held at the kids school. That's always fun for

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Speaker 2: a kid to be wearing your classmates giveaway clothing, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and eating the cam food that they also are giving away,

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Speaker 2: because that never leads to bullying and.

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Speaker 1: Wearing all the face paint that.

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Speaker 2: Comes later, Elizabeth. So, of course, violin Ja, he's a

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Speaker 2: sensitive kid at heart. Essentially he's an artist. Right. Oh here,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a perfect example of this guy. There's

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Speaker 2: this butterfly. The butterfly you need to know about the butterfly.

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Speaker 1: Butterfly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, violin Ja seven years old. Right, he's outside his

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Speaker 2: older brother. They're doing like huckleberry finn stuff in Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: or Michigan. Rather now they're catching frogs, crawdads, chasing butterflies,

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, right, and at one point, they

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Speaker 2: catch a butterfly, right, and this is brilliant, beautiful butterfly, Elizabeth, Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this butterfly. It's a real looker, right,

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Speaker 2: it's the colors of its wings striking, mesmerizing. Right, this

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Speaker 2: kind of butterfly. If you're a kid, you see it,

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Speaker 2: you never forget it. That's what I mean. Remember seven

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Speaker 2: years old. So what do they do? Well, they catch it,

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Speaker 2: they put it in a glass jar, they take it home.

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Speaker 2: They want to own all this gentle, delicate beauty that

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Speaker 2: See, I knew you'd like that. Now you can say

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Speaker 2: Right then he moves, he changes schools into new school.

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Speaker 2: They're legit Elizabeth because they come to violent Jay's mama's

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Speaker 1: I see now.

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Speaker 2: Psychopathic Records. Right now, Elizabeth, do you know, as asked

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Speaker 2: before I had their music sounds like you're heard of

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Speaker 1: Basically, they just do the rappings about scary stuff.

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Speaker 2: Knew you'd like that. And the grave Diggas are like,

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Speaker 2: what if that song was a whole album, like just

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Speaker 2: this is coming out right and everybodle all that. Rizza

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Speaker 2: I want people to go is he insane?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: Is he a clown?

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Speaker 2: Like if these lyrics basically Elizabeth, they they spawn a

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Speaker 2: Overwhelmed by the wicked inspirations of an evil gin, I

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Speaker 2: I will introduce you to the Juggalos then juggle Lettes

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Speaker 2: and how they come into all this. Oh and more crime, yeah, way,

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Speaker 2: more crime. Oh, Elizabeth, we're back, look at us. Hey, Okay,

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Speaker 2: did you know Insane Clown Posse has two, count them

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Speaker 2: two platinum albums?

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Speaker 1: Platinum?

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Speaker 2: Okay, they also have five that's right, fiber than f

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Speaker 1: I can see. I mean, they have a pretty big

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Speaker 2: Oh they slouches, I'm telling you, like they're selling, They

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Speaker 2: So I guess we're gonna put the influence on. They

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Speaker 2: and it grows from there. So when you join the army,

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Speaker 1: But like, maybe are they clowning on people? And it's

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's I think it's dark they know, like

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Speaker 1: You cannot clown on someone while you're wearing face paint.

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Speaker 2: No, what are you talking about, Homie the clown?

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Speaker 1: You cannot clown clown.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you he is like you gonna tell Damon

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Speaker 2: Wayne's But other than how am I totally agree? So no,

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Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't call these guys like my men like

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Speaker 2: I sometimes do. But I've never been to an insane

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Speaker 2: clown posse show. I've never watched like Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to a gathering of the Juggalos. But

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Speaker 2: if I slip into calling them my men, it's because

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Speaker 2: either are underdogs. I pull for underdogs. Yeah, and they're insane,

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Speaker 2: so I want to keep them close, but not too close. Kidding, Oliva,

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Speaker 2: what do you know about the gathering of the Juggalos?

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Speaker 1: The only thing I know about Juggalos, aside from the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, community minded, like there's a lot of mutual aid exactly, exactly.

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00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a lot of economically disadvantaged people from

436
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: primarily the midwatt and also extending down to like New Mexico, California,

437
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: and they're all over the country, but you know, radiating

438
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: out from Detroit essentially, So the closer to Detroit, the

439
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: more likely you are to be a fan of theirs. Yeah,

440
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: and you have a bunch of basically economic disadvantaged youths

441
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: who all find them and then find like this kind

442
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: of like gesture like quality, this circus vibe, this carnival air,

443
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: but it's also very community minded, much like the Dead heads,

444
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: but without this like we're going to change the world

445
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 2: or need of the Hippi stuff. It's more like we're going

446
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 2: to take care of each other since no one's taking

447
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: care of us.

448
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like they're not wimpy, but the same time,

449
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: when you're.

450
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: Wild and reckless, but they also have mad love for

451
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: each other.

452
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like they're destructive.

453
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: They are. They're very destructive. They do the backyard wrestling,

454
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: they're offensive, they do all sorts of stuff. I mean,

455
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 2: there's like it's it's horrendous that you're gonna see, Elizabeth.

456
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk you through. I want but before we

457
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: walk into this circus, I want you to know these

458
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: are good people, all right.

459
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: I just hold my hand, are you just I feel

460
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: like you're setting me up like you did with the furry.

461
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm hold my hand. You're not going

462
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: to be You're not going to be judgmental.

463
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: We're just gonna the fall of no of dark Elizabeth,

464
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: just just keep so.

465
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: The gathering of the jugglers, right as I said, it's

466
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: like this carnival circus the last five days. These days

467
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: and it used to be shorter, but now it's five days.

468
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of entertainment if you went there right,

469
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, there's Juggalo Wrestling Championship. There's all sorts

470
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: of County Fair inspired games, like you know, things you'd

471
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: find on the midway, you know, like was wholesome. Yeah, totally,

472
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: but it done a little differently, like instead of like

473
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: knocking down milk bottles, it's like knocked down sex toys

474
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: or whatever. Then you get like, oh, here's a bear.

475
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: I thought they would be like very meta and you

476
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: you haven't you seen the ones where we have to

477
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: hit the clown.

478
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that's a lot of clown stuff, of course, clowns,

479
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: clowns everywhere. Yeah, a lot of clown violence, clown on clowns,

480
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: sexy clowns, ugly clowns, airy clowns, drunk clowns, hobo clowns, clowns.

481
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: So there's also like open mic comedy shows though, so

482
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: there's that kind of clown as well. Right, Oh yeah,

483
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: there's oil wrestling, wet t shirt contests if that's your thing.

484
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: There's there's at night there are theme parties. I'll just

485
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: leave it at there. There's also Juggalo karaoke because I

486
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: mean you gotta have the karaoke that's where the band started.

487
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: So anyway, for live music, there are multiple days of concerts.

488
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: There's obviously insane clown Posse performs the headliner, but they

489
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: share the bill with all sorts of other acts. Now,

490
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: some are underground acts, some are local favorites, Some are

491
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: like Juggalo cover band group things right. Some are big

492
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: name acts like Elizabeth Can you guess three big acts

493
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: that have played at the gathering of the Juggle heavy

494
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: on the hip.

495
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: Hop, heavy on the hip hop, just for you know, like.

496
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but not Mariah Carey. That's what I'm saying. Like,

497
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: no poppy, no feist, none of that.

498
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

499
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Thank your hometown. Just name any rapper from your hometown. Yes,

500
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: Too Short was that? No, not that I'm aware of,

501
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: But I can tell you that, uh, Digital Underground has

502
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: put performed there. Yeah, post Tupac, Yes, talk.

503
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: About how Too Short will play any.

504
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: Yes, guys you got ten grand they're there, A little

505
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: bit more of that. I don't know up in here.

506
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: You want to guess again?

507
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so we had Digital Underground. Is it another Oakland?

508
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: No, no move away from Oakland. But the name of

509
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: a wrap ack from the nineties. You know, uh, I

510
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: don't know.

511
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm blanking.

512
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: Just any wrap act from the nineties. Look, yes, what,

513
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Yes he's from the eighties. Yes, let's try again. You

514
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: want to keep rolling? Should we roll over your winnings?

515
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Or you want to stop there?

516
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, knows another wrap act from the nineties.

517
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: Any nineties rap act you can think of? Yes, isn't this?

518
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: So here's a full rather fuller list. O dB Old,

519
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: Dirty Bad, Ray Hwan Sadella Ice, George Clinton in Parliament, Funkadelic.

520
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: I wish it was George Clooney.

521
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: How about Morris Day in the Time I love?

522
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: I know you do?

523
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: Is they put them up on the list? Method Man

524
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: and Red Man? Uh huh? Digital Underground, I said, ice

525
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: Cube and Guard not together? Yes. Also there's that Buster Rhymes,

526
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: Little John, Exhibit Bone, Thugs and Harmony to Live Crew.

527
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: That's for you, Producer D three six, Mafia, Coolioh, Bubba Sparks,

528
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: Yang Twins, Scarface, Naughty by Nature, Warren G Cypress, Hill,

529
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: DJ Quick, Tome, Loke, Cheech and Chong, The Far Side,

530
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: Fat Boys, Cool Keith. That's again for your. Producer d

531
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: Onyx Swoom Dude and Master P and the Ghetto Boys

532
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: once again separate.

533
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

534
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: Sorry, isn't that nuts? How many people they're like, we

535
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: are keeping these boys?

536
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a lot. How many years has this thing

537
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: been going on?

538
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. I'm glad you asked about that. I'll

539
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: tell you that one second. But first, let's with nineteen

540
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: ninety seven. Okay, right, because that's well dateline Detroit, nineteen

541
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: ninety seven. Who else would be coming up in nineteen ninety.

542
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: Seven ninety seven as a rapper from Detroit? Eminem?

543
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Boo, do you know who also hates the insane clown

544
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: posse eminem? But he didn't always hate the insane clown

545
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: posse eminem? Same person.

546
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like, you know what, whose opinion I want?

547
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I'm not that. I will not linger that that

548
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: whatever he says hanging over this story, I have no

549
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: fifty cent opinion on this. I wish I know that

550
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: he is your great decider of like, well, what's fifty

551
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: cent thing about that?

552
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: No, if someone's shady, he'll let you know totally.

553
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he is like the BS detector. So there's

554
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: this young up and coming rapper making a name for

555
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: himself in ICP territory. Oh yeah, to be honest, he

556
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: sort of looks up to them from making it out

557
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: of Detroit as white rappers because you see Elizabeth Iss,

558
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: young and up and coming rapper. What's his name, Jack White? Eminem,

559
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: So I probably should have told you that earlier so

560
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: you'd have gotten it right. But anyway, you know what,

561
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: Eminem has a local show and while he's out putting

562
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: up flyers, he sees Violent J. He's like, oh, dude,

563
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: Violent jet Man. It goes over being ambitious because it's

564
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, the future Slim Shady. He goes up to

565
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: Violent J and shows him that he has included insane

566
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: clown posse on the flyer for his show. Eminem was he, yeah,

567
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: he was about to break joint his Slim Shady EP.

568
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: This is the release party for that, and the flyer

569
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: for his release party says and I quote featuring appearances

570
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: by Asham Kid Rock and ICP. Maybe. Oh so, Eminem

571
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: was like, look, white rappers of Detroit unite, right, But

572
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: Violent J isn't down for Eminem just using his name

573
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: like that, so he even calls him on it, standing

574
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: there in front of him. Now he asked him, like,

575
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: why did you think it was cool for like using

576
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: our name without hitting us up for permission? Right, nothing,

577
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: We didn't even reach out. Eminem being Eminem is like,

578
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: and I quote it says, maybe maybe you will be there.

579
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why I'm asking you right now.

580
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: You guys coming to my release party or what?

581
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: Hustle?

582
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: What do you think Violent Jay's reaction to Eminem's late

583
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: invitation to release party?

584
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Will they slap them.

585
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Now? Violent j told Eminem, no, I ain't coming to

586
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: your party. We might have if you would have asked

587
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: us first before putting us on the flyer.

588
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Like this, Oh hey, coming in hot right, And from

589
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: that point on, Insane clown Posse has made an enemy

590
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: of Eminem.

591
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: Now, in case you missed it, that dude can hold

592
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: a grudge Eminem.

593
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So.

594
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: Anyway back to Insane clowm Possey. By now, they're not

595
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: quite big time, but they're also not working day jobs

596
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: like they're making money. They're making it pay. They are

597
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: coming up in the world of hip hop, right, and

598
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: the success starts to go to their heads clearly as

599
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: we just saw, Oh yeah, yeah, he's also just reaching

600
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: out to him as a fan, as a local, as

601
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: somebody's part of possibly the posse. Yeah no, anyway. Also,

602
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: Eminem's about a quickly eclipse them, but we'll get to

603
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: that in a second. So at this point though, people

604
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: are starting to know about em Lisa Detroit and that's

605
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: making tensions a little tight. So in November of nineteen

606
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: ninety seven. That same year, Violent J tries to play

607
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: whack a mole with a microphone on a fan's face

608
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: down in Albuquerque, New Mexico, ICP. They had a show

609
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: and at one point Violent J. He beats this fan

610
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: with a microphone, and I don't mean like six seven times.

611
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: He hits the dude thirty times upside the.

612
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Dome and the guy didn't run.

613
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: It got him arrested, right, so baol five grand Yeah

614
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: he boom, he's out too.

615
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: Because was it a wireless mic Does that matter? Well? Yeah,

616
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: because if it has a wire you just move out

617
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: of the how far can you reach?

618
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: That's how you think the man's hitting me in the

619
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: head of the microphone. You're like when you scooch back

620
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: in this strip, give.

621
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: Me a little room and then I'm going to hit him.

622
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Give me some room, meaner niner.

623
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. That's devastating. I know, are you

624
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: in battle rap scenes finish At this point two months later,

625
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: this story has gotten out, like I have you beat

626
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: your own fans with a microphone. So January ninety eight

627
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: magazine comments on the Insane Clown Posse. They're growing fame, right,

628
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: they're fans the Jugglers introducing in the world to them

629
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: and de lunacy that is this world right. Spin runs

630
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: a cartoon, like a four page cartoon making fun of

631
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Insane Clown Posse in their own style basically yeah, and

632
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: Spin also says that Insane Clown Posse was bad not

633
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: because they were risking anything and failing. Instead, they were

634
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: offensive because quote not for their obscenity, but for their stupidity.

635
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Their intensive stupidity is amazing exactly.

636
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: So around the same time Violent Jay and Shaggy Too Dope,

637
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: they get into it again with a fan. This time

638
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: I think it was a confirmed hater. Though the band

639
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: was on tour. The tour bus pulled into a waffle

640
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: house in a town called Greenfield, Indiana.

641
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: Okay, never been there, but anyway, I hear it's beautiful.

642
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: They just wanted to eat. They weren't looking for trouble

643
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: in a waffle house that god knows what hour. But

644
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: you know you can always find it at a waffle house.

645
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: The short order cook will come out and beat your assafe. Am, yeah,

646
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: do not play with the waffle house. But anyway, customer

647
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: sees violent Ja starts in on them and talking bad

648
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: about Icy and how Eminem's better or something. I'm assuming now, Elizabeth,

649
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what all was said, but I do

650
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: know a fight broke out and apparently this one irate

651
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: customer took on the entire band, their manager, and their DJ.

652
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh whoa whole band in Posse was subsequently arrested for

653
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: fighting in the waffle house, as was this one customer

654
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: one guy. So charges of battery were eventually reduced to

655
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: disorderly conduct, which is a misdemeanors and no time boom

656
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: now ICP. They did they learn that it was a

657
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: bad business decision to beat up their fans and attack

658
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: their critics. I'm gonna say no, what kind of they did?

659
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: They learned that they need to repair their image. Okay,

660
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: so they hired old dirty bastard.

661
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Right, Well, they're done.

662
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: It's not exactly the safe choice but they also hired

663
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: Snoop Dog And if anyone knows something about image repair,

664
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: is Snoop do DOUBLEG?

665
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: Isn't that the truth? You know, murder was the case

666
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: that they gave him.

667
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: You remember his ninety three murder trial.

668
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: And then fast forward and he's at the Olympics watching dressage.

669
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: Totally nibble on on with Martha Stewart. So isn't it

670
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: wild to see Snoop like comes like such a darling

671
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: of the mainstream really is? And he and Snoop didn't

672
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: even have to die. I mean usually for a dangerous

673
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: black man, he has to die to become as beloved

674
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: as that to.

675
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: His face on T shirt?

676
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be mainstreamed like that. Anyway. Anyway, back to

677
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: Clown Posse and their image rehab. It's nineteen ninety eight,

678
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: Violent Jays and Shaggy two Dope. They offer Snoop a

679
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: payday to come and appear on their next album. They

680
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: offer Snoop forty grand to appear on one song.

681
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: That's a payday for Snoop in those days?

682
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: Is it ninety ninety eight? Yeah, it was a Couacter's

683
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: a come up. Now after that goes well, Snoop hooks

684
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: them up with ODB and the equally insane rappers like.

685
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Bat right like he's like, they're your problem.

686
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: Go downstairs with the basement b o dB is. So

687
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: he's down to be on their album. Right, and he's

688
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: cheaper than Snoop thirty grand for one song, right.

689
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: This song's a lot of money for one.

690
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Song, totally, and the song is not his best he did.

691
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Let's just say he did not spend much time on his lyrics.

692
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: The song is called Bitches and It It's basically ODB

693
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: rambling incoherently about his thoughts on the afore mentioned topic of.

694
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Bitches, just swaying back and forth.

695
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: It took them one week of editing to turn his

696
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: recording session into four rhymes.

697
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: That four couple producer Dave has to do it exactly.

698
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: Poor guy, I know he feels for this. The song

699
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: was later re recorded right, but the title stayed from

700
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: that original recording. You know right with this about yeah?

701
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: It was yeah.

702
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: Next up on their list of features for their new album,

703
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: they lined up one more legend from the game I

704
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: want to guess Who? No, don't whoa good guess?

705
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Right?

706
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: No, I'll just tell you it was iced Tea.

707
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: It was iced Tea fin No.

708
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: This is just before he became detective in two exactly.

709
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: So he was dropping features on Insane cloullin Posse's new album,

710
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: and you can see like why he may be so

711
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: keen to become a cop on SBU's I Gotta Take

712
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: this is like ten grand for this, that's what he

713
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: got paid ten He was a step like three steps down.

714
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: He's just a quarter of Snoop and his.

715
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Song they didn't feel it was strong enough to release

716
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: on their album. They didn't make the album.

717
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: Oh no, was he like? Now, that's what I call rapp.

718
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: It was eventually released on a later album. So anyway,

719
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: they're gambit of hiring old rappers, beloved legends of the game.

720
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: Pays off Insane Clown. Posse's able to repair their image,

721
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: but then they had more problems with another white rapper,

722
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: this time the Beastie Boys.

723
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: Oh you do not cross the Beastie Boys in my book.

724
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: The idea was for them to do a photo shoot. Right,

725
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: it's for the cover of an old weekly called Alternative Press,

726
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: which is inclean. You Membrolla is great old weekly. Yeah,

727
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: miss every city had one. They're so good listings of

728
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: all the stuff you could do, investigative local journalism. Yeah,

729
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: ads for bands looking for like new members, and people

730
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: selling like I don't know, claw Foot tub It was

731
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: just the best stuff. So ICP is doing a cover shoot, right,

732
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: and they're on this photo set and some cat from

733
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: their peer, their peer right, starts chatting them up about

734
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: their song the World, and specifically the lyrics that said

735
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: the Beastie Boys and the Dalai Lama now come on.

736
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: The cat from the PR team was like, you need

737
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: to change that lyric. It's hell of offensive. I mean

738
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: they deserve better. And violent Jay, you know, being violent

739
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Ja is having none of it, right, He's very much

740
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: against any type of like censorship. So he tells this

741
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: cat from his PR team that I will not be censored, right.

742
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: So the PR team then informs him that actually they're

743
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: good friends with the Beastie Boys, and more than that,

744
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: they are the Beastie Boys PR team. So you guys

745
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: are on essentially the same PR label if that puts

746
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: in your terms, So like, why don't you guys just

747
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: be cool? Change the lyrics plain ice and violent Jay

748
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: is like, no, how about your fired get out? And

749
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: he straight up kicks a pr team off their photoshoot

750
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: while they're repairing their image. So at this point we're

751
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: now moving into nineteen ninety nine, Elizabeth, they.

752
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: Seem like the way the Furries are, like I'm quirky,

753
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: They're all I am contrary.

754
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also like just but it's a little deeper

755
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: than that, because it's like I've been kicked in bent

756
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: and now if I roll over and hit something, it's

757
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: because I was kicked in bent. You know, that's the

758
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: attitude at this point. We're into nineteen ninety nine, right,

759
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: and you want to know something strange, Elizabeth. I know

760
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: for a fact that you once shared the same air

761
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: as Violent Jay and Shaggy Too Dope and the Insane

762
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Clown Possey and Woodstock ninety nine with Mothers. I was there,

763
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: so I got to did you ever steal away so

764
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: you could catch that ICP set? Is that why it's

765
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: bringing in the back.

766
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Of your memory to figure out what stage they would

767
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: have been?

768
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: The side stage definitely if their sideshow character, Yeah, I.

769
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: Don't know, there was a lot happening, then well they.

770
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: Were there too, Wow, Yeah, they were also part of

771
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: the lot.

772
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: Were they one of those like it's three pm.

773
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it was sunny when they played now this,

774
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: it was still a huge come up for them, right.

775
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: That meant that the Insane Clown Posse was accused of

776
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: settling out by their early fans because they played Woodstock

777
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: ninety nine, that kind.

778
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Of stuff, that chaos of that would be so like

779
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: that on brand.

780
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: No, No, that's like big labels trying to get to

781
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, that it was like obvious cash grabs

782
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: that they're like these independent like why are you getting

783
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: along with those people x Borros, So that sting of

784
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: rejection and you know, derision from their fans about their

785
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: choice that stayed with Violent Jay and Shaggy too. Dope. Yeah,

786
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: they were like, y'all just wait man, you'll see we

787
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: ain't sold out to nobody or nothing. Right, So now boom,

788
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: we're in the year two thousand. Remember Conan used to.

789
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: Do in the year two thousand.

790
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, year two thousand rolls around and Eminem now

791
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: a huge hit, way bigger than Sane clown Posse, and

792
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: he hasn't forgotten about the incident with the Flyer, so

793
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: whenever he gets a chance, he's running them down, bad

794
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: mouthing them in like radio interviews on the TV, just

795
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: pissing on their steps that things get so bad. In

796
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: the June of two thousand, one of Insane clown Pops

797
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: He's affiliates sees Eminem and.

798
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: A parking lot like a franchisee exactly right.

799
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: He's a car stereo shop in like Royal Oak, Michigan

800
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: in Detroit suburb basically. And this dude has a pistol

801
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: on him, so he goes after Eminem with his gun.

802
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: He gets all up in Eminem's face. He threatens him

803
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: with the firearm. The cops end up coming separating him.

804
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: The dude and Eminem both get arrested. Eminem has to

805
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: plead guilty to a lesser charge just to avoid jail time.

806
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: That's not fair.

807
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: The very next month, Insane clown Possean's initiates the first

808
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: in a long tradition in a town called Novy, Michigan, Elizabeth.

809
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: They host the very first gathering of the Juggalos. Take

810
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: a little break and get back. I'm gonna take you

811
00:38:37,360 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: inside the gathering of the Juggalos. Oh no, we're back. Hi,

812
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: So you're ready to go to Juggalo? Just hold my head.

813
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: We're gonna be fine.

814
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: I love I'm not not an Eminem fan, but I

815
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: love a grudge totally, and so now I'm an Eminem fan.

816
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah see, there you go. So uh Eminem right he uh.

817
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: He'll come back in the story. But at this point

818
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: we have the Insane Clown Pass. Their fans have been like,

819
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: you know, giving them a hard time about Woodstock, so

820
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: they're like, you guys, see, we'll come back with something

821
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: we haven't sold out to anybody, right, So Violent Jay

822
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: announces the Gathering of the Juggalos as the Juggalo Woodstock.

823
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 3: Right.

824
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: Instead of peace, love and music, the gathering is gonna

825
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: be three days of karaoke, oil wrestling, backyard wrestling, carnival

826
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: side shows, the country Fair midway, and of course insane

827
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: clown Posse concert along to Mother Acts. Oh there it is, woo,

828
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: so it is. It's a hit. First gathering the Jugglos

829
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: is such a hit that the band, riding this cresting

830
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: wave of success and proof of all their fans how

831
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: much they love them, they decided, let's do this again.

832
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: Let's make this an annual event. So they you know,

833
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: also they're like, as long as this doesn't take too

834
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: much from our legal defense fund. We're good, let's we

835
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: got the money. So the next time the band they

836
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: caught charges over Eminem. This was because of their tour

837
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: road manager, right, because, as I told you, Eminem would

838
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: come back to the story. Wasn't long? Wasn't too long?

839
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: Eminem the bitsical. The next year, their tour road manager decides, like,

840
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: you know, hey, while we have that legal defense fund,

841
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to dip into it. Boys, because he

842
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: chokes out a fan who's wearing an Eminem shirt. What

843
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: I imagine the fan was talking some trash about insane

844
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 2: clown posse and their beef with Eminem. Anyway, the tour

845
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 2: road manager gets released on charges of assault and battery

846
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: again felony charges later reduced to a misdemeanor.

847
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: That's low level grudging.

848
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: Oh totally.

849
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Who I had no opinion on before, But I now.

850
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: Growing up every time every time I mentioned him.

851
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: High level grudging, and I'm about that. Don't to this

852
00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: low level.

853
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna punk your fans. No, no, no, so Elizabeth, now

854
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: you're ready to go to the second gathering of the Juggalos.

855
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess are. Can we get beat up?

856
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, it was held in Toledo, Ohio

857
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: very safe place Home of the mud Hens went down

858
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: in July of two thousand and one. The attendance was

859
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: estimated at sixty six hundred hearty souls. On the bill

860
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: for the second gathering were some actual big names. There

861
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: was Bone Thugs in Harmony, also three six Mafia and

862
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: for the old heads Vanilla Ice. Yeah so yeah, this

863
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: was now a three day Juggalo woodstock rousing success, despite

864
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: the fact that the headliners Insane clown Posse. When they

865
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: took the stage during their show, their fans rushed the

866
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: stage so much so that Violent Jay and Shaggy two

867
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: Dope had to flee for their own safety out of

868
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: the concerns that the stage would collapse.

869
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: Oh no, yes right.

870
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: Local papers described the scene as a riot, Elizabeth a riot,

871
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: and that pretty much guaranteed the success of the third

872
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: gathering of the Juggalos.

873
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I feel like, was there stage just like a big trampoline?

874
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: I don't mean that would be good. So also I

875
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: forgot after the second one, just after they finished performing

876
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: and the pair like fled the stage. Violent Jay gets

877
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: arrested because there was an outstanding warrant after he'd beaten

878
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: up a Saint Louis radio DJ for making fun of

879
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: the posse of mentally unwell clowns.

880
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, he's gonna come after me pretty much.

881
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: So when the cops took down Violent Jay, it was

882
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: like a raid. Like it was like multiple cop cars

883
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: from multiple jurisdictions. The tour of bus I think they

884
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: were on gets pulled over a few miles from the

885
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: venue again, though he gets released on bail. Turn loose

886
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: next year. Third gathering of the Juggalos held in Peoria, Illinois.

887
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: Okayra been there, I have not, but I hear it'speutiful.

888
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: Eight thousand Juggalos show up in Peoria in July two

889
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 2: thousand and two. This was the gathering when Bubba Sparks

890
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: got booed off the stage.

891
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Bubba Sparks, didn't you mention him the

892
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: other Yeah?

893
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: Man, he shows up. He keeps popping up. You'd think

894
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: that if anyone would be patient and kind with a

895
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: white rapper, it would be the Juggalos. But nope, it's

896
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: always your own, Elizabeth, always your own. So after Bubba

897
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Sparks gets booed off stage by the Juggle, the fans

898
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: came up with the Bubba Sparks Award that was to

899
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: be given out to any future acts who also met

900
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: the same cruel fate of being booed off the stage

901
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: by drunken, sunburnt Juggalos. So okay. That same year, at

902
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: the third gathering, there was also another riot. This time

903
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: was because the police attempted to prohibit young women from

904
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: flashing their breast to the crowd from stage. The Juggalos

905
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: then turned on the police, demanding that they enjoy the

906
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: freedom of being flashed at by consenting women. The police disagreed,

907
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: the pushback turned into a riot. Eventually, tear gas was

908
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: fired into the crowd. When that wasn't enough for the

909
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: boob loving crowd, the police fired pepperballs and that resulted

910
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: in a stampede of confused boob lovers. The fans eventually

911
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: did settle down and the concert was resumed. Keep in mind,

912
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: this was all indoors, indoors. These have all been occurring indoors.

913
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Tops are like, you're under arrest for being tacking.

914
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: For the fourth gathering of the Juggalos, they opted to

915
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: hold it outdoors. They're like, look if a police all

916
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: target to fire tear gas into our crowd, we need

917
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: a good breeze.

918
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: The whole time I thought they were out in like

919
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: a mighty field that's inside like a high school gym.

920
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: Basically, or like a small basketball Yeah. So for the

921
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: first time the gathering of the Juggle was now last

922
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: for twenty four hours, non stop partying. And I think

923
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: I should point out there's a lot of drugs at

924
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: these gathering, Like people are selling drugs for like slices

925
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: of pods. Nobody, No, not at all. So just imagine

926
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: people like lying in the mud next to like where

927
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: people are walking there.

928
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: You go.

929
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So to this point, this crowd, who clearly needs

930
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: twenty four hours to get in all their partying this time,

931
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: there's no major incident at the fourth gathering, right, so

932
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: good on them. Maybe there's the right mix of Oh,

933
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: being outdoors really helped us.

934
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: We had twenty four hours, we could spread it out.

935
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, But being the insane clown posse, they couldn't help

936
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: it find their way into more legal trouble. They're like, well,

937
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: we don't need the gathering for that, we'll take it

938
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: on our own. Right. So you mentioned earlier their beloved

939
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: drink of choice feago. Now you're familiar with fago Have

940
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: you ever tasted it? Anything about it?

941
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: Orange soda is one of the flavors. There's multiple of them.

942
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: It was originally designed to taste like Russian cake decorations, buttercream. No, no,

943
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: like grape and weird like flavors are like fruity flavors

944
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: because it was invented by these Russian brothers who were

945
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: in the Detroit area. So they make these drinks and

946
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, these are party drinks. So it's like, yes,

947
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: grape icing and like yeah, anyway, look it up. So anyway,

948
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: while they're on world tour, they make it down Under, right.

949
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: About those Russian icing tips?

950
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, like imagine like they take from the

951
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred, like the late eighteen hundred's, early nineteen hundred.

952
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: Really yeah, exactly, No, imagine eating just that icing, like

953
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: just the piece that's called what would that taste like

954
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: like sugary grape? They're like that would be like a

955
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: great drink.

956
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh if you say so.

957
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: Anyway, they're these guys are down in Australia and they

958
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: get stopped by customs officer, right, and you're like why

959
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: they well, of course these guys look like they're smuggling drugs.

960
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: They're walking around with face paint and they're like no.

961
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: But it turns out it was their Fago that got

962
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: them in trouble because it looked like they were smuggling

963
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: in a commercial they had brought so much and the

964
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Aussis weren't hearing it. They're like, you can come in.

965
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: But the Fagos days with May and Bruce right and.

966
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Again, why do I love the Australian.

967
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I knew you thought that would be good. Now,

968
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 2: Violent Jay and Shaggy two Dope they're like, well we eat

969
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: that though we use it in our shows. Man, you

970
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: can't take that from us. And the Aussies were like,

971
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: well that doesn't seem healthy drinking that. Let's sea Paul

972
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: while you're singing, and Violent Jay was like, no, we

973
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: don't drink it. We spray the crowd with it man,

974
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: and the auss like, oh sorry, Mite, just you know

975
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to wet your crab with something else.

976
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: You can sit fostest now, Elizabeth. The next year, at

977
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: the fifth gathering of the Juggalos, their old buddy, old

978
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: dirty bastard came out to perform. Not only that bone

979
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Thugs and Harmony reunited for a surprise show at the

980
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: opening night. Jugglers.

981
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: They all got them at the room.

982
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got him their feels right. And now, speaking

983
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: of feels, that same year two thousand and five are

984
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: now in eminem and then the Insane Clown Posse were

985
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: able to put up behind their beef. They buried it, Yeah,

986
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: really did. Finally Detroit with no peace between their famous

987
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: white rappers. At the sixth gathering of the Juggle it

988
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: was Elizabeth, we got some real heavy hitters of hip

989
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: hop to come out of group that seemed perfect for

990
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: the Juggalos. It was two Live Crew once again produce

991
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: out to you. It's your third favorite rap group.

992
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: I believe that Miami Big Bass sounds exactly now.

993
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: The next year, the seventh Gathering of the Jugs. I

994
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: know what you're thinking, Elizabeth, is he going to walk

995
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: me down the memory of all the gatherings of the Juggalos.

996
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: I would never do that to you. I'm not that

997
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: recount Morgan will cover most of them, so buckle up. Anyway,

998
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: the seventh gathering of the Juggles was scheduled to be

999
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: held in Brooklyn, and so this is this is never

1000
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: some six six. Okay, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Michigan. I probably should

1001
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: have completed that. But when Brooklyn, Michigan heard that their

1002
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: fair town would be home to this, like the seventh

1003
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: gathering of the Juggles, the town was like, the hell

1004
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: you are right. So they're like, well they'd heard about

1005
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: the Juggles at this point everybody had They're all over

1006
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: doctor Phil and so forth. Right, So the town's council like,

1007
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: what can we do? What can we do with permits?

1008
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: We've got them, So they denied them permits.

1009
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't pay enough to are the costs for

1010
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: the town. There's absolutely well, they.

1011
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: Had got money because you know, money spends, so they

1012
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: were able to find a new location. A small town

1013
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: in Ohio is like, we will take that infusion of

1014
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: casting our small town. Yeah, and we don't care about

1015
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: all these Juggles. Most of them are look like our

1016
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: children anyway. So that year Oakland Royalty too short and

1017
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: digital underground they perform for the Juggalos. Right, So at

1018
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: this point the festival is now huge. There were one

1019
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: hundred bands that performed that year.

1020
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Hundred, yes, how many days does this thing go to?

1021
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: Four or five days? At this point Yeah. The next

1022
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: year was just as huge. Another hundred bands performed, including

1023
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: the Ying Yang Twins.

1024
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1025
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: That year was two thousand and eight, and again ICP

1026
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: got into legal trouble again due to their love of Fago,

1027
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: because one of the fans chose to sue Violent Jay

1028
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: for beating him in the head with an unopened bottle

1029
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 2: of Fago at a show in Fargo, North Dakota. Okay, yeah,

1030
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: that's got to suck to tell people that your favorite

1031
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: band nearly left you crippled for life and the band

1032
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: is insane clown posse. Anyway, I'm going to skip the

1033
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: ninth gathering of the Juggalos Elizabeth, but just Iced Tea performed.

1034
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: Oh and at that point he had SVU money, so

1035
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: he wasn't doing it for the money. He was doing

1036
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: it for the Juggalo It's for them anyway. Tenth gathering,

1037
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: the ICP pulled out the stops, hired even better rappers. Yeah,

1038
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: one name for a state of water ice Cube. That year,

1039
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: twenty thousand people showed up to the gathering. You know.

1040
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: It was also that year Gwar Oh also poly Shore

1041
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: he did stand up wait wild right, also very fitting somehow.

1042
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Nine yeah, oh that's timely exactly.

1043
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: No, he was still riding away at that point. Was

1044
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: he'd come back, Yeah, he'd come back, Swear to god.

1045
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: It was like his third wave. Now, the Eleventh Gathering,

1046
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 2: that was the one, Elizabeth. That's when things turned ugly, ugly,

1047
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: ugly or whatever. Method Man and Redman they performed that year,

1048
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: so did Naughty by Nature, Tell Lok Rob Bass and

1049
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: DJ Eazy Rock, Warren.

1050
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: Right, Warrant Orange. Yeah, it was like, wait, warrant was?

1051
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 2: It was a clear dark night, a clear white moon.

1052
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: I love that, But I really thought you were talking

1053
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: about Warrant.

1054
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: No you no, Warren G.

1055
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: Dang.

1056
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know if it was before or

1057
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: after Warren G performed, but I do know that it

1058
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: involved Tila Tequila. I bet you remember that name. I

1059
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: thought you would. But you know what, rather than me

1060
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: tell you about her, Elizabeth, I'd like you to close

1061
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: your eyes close to picture it. It's a warm summer night.

1062
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: Music floats through the air. Fireflies light up and disappear

1063
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: as they flit all around you. You can hear in

1064
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: the distance the insistent pounding of bass drums, but mostly

1065
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: you can hear yourself breathing as you squat behind a

1066
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: tree and pee. You Elizabeth, are at the eleventh annual

1067
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: gathering of the Juggalos, and the line for the porta

1068
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: potties is impossibly long, so you nipped into the woods

1069
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: to relieve yourself. Once done, you wash your hands at

1070
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: a little quarter of sinc Then you stroll back into

1071
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: the crowd and attempt to find the person who brought

1072
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: you here. You're frown Sarah T, but she is nowhere

1073
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: to be found, so you find yourself drawn to the

1074
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: sounds of music. At the edge of the crowd. You

1075
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: find a place where Sarah T might see you, but

1076
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: you can also see the stage and up there is

1077
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: wait is that? Yep? It's Tia Tequila. Apparently someone thought

1078
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: it would be a good idea for the MySpace era

1079
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: provocateur to taunt the Juggalos with her music, and I

1080
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: use that term loosely. There is an air of violence

1081
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: developing in the crowd, and then you start to see

1082
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: it erupt. A plastic bottle is the first sign of

1083
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: there it goes, plastic bottle of water sailing through the air.

1084
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: It lands on stage not far from Tia Tequila. The

1085
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: crowd of Juggles. They love that. You hear some cheers,

1086
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: some hoots, and of course if you woo now Elizabeth

1087
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Tia Tequila retreats behind a wall of security guards and

1088
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: continues to and I use this word again, loosely sing.

1089
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: And then you see another bottle go flying towards her,

1090
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: and another one and another. Now the crowd is really

1091
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: getting into it. They've officially turned on Tia Tequila. But

1092
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: she continues on and I use this term loosely performing.

1093
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 2: She's wearing a bikini top and a pair of Daisy

1094
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: Duke shorts, and she's sort of half dancing while also

1095
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: wrapping about DJs she's slept with, and how if given

1096
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: a chance, she would kick your it's a whole thing.

1097
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: Next you see a handful of what looks to be

1098
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: earth and mud fly through the air. At least that's

1099
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: what you hope it is. The other option is too

1100
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: gross to consider. The questionable brown clump hits Tia Tequila

1101
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: square in the face. The crowd of juggles loves that.

1102
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: They try to top one another. You see more bottles

1103
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 2: fly towards the stage, only now they're chaffled with yellow liquid.

1104
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: The bottles hit the security guards and Tia Tequila splashing

1105
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: them with the yellow liquid. More fec flies, more bottles

1106
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: of urine. It's a literal crab fest, and you cannot

1107
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: look away. Tia Tequila tries to win back the crowd.

1108
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: To do that, she flashes the juggles, but not even

1109
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: the sight of bare flesh can win them back. Seeing

1110
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: this slow motion train wreck go down, someone sends the

1111
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: comedian Tom Greene back out on stage. Oh god, he

1112
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: doesn't know what to do, so he sort of spast

1113
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 2: jerks and dances around and tries to distract the crowd

1114
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: from Tia Tequila, who, by the way, will not leave

1115
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: the stage for some reason. You snicker to yourself at

1116
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: this train wreck, mostly because you've never liked Tom green

1117
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: not after he played Drew Barrymore's Hearts, So you laugh

1118
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: when Tom Green catches a clump of soil or is

1119
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: that human theces right in the kisser. Then you turn

1120
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: and walk off to see if you can find seracs,

1121
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: because you know this show isn't going to get any

1122
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: better than Tom Green's smug, punchable face catching a steaming pile.

1123
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Elizabeth, you thought that weird little story

1124
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: of semi famous names and faces I got one that's

1125
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: even better for him. Oh no, no, it's not gross though,

1126
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: well he kind of is. Well whatever. You and I

1127
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: both love Jack White. Yes, we've both seen him perform

1128
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: a few times.

1129
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: Yes.

1130
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: Did you know that just before the twelfth gathering of

1131
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: the Juggalos, Jack White approached Insane Clown Posse about doing

1132
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: a song with him because he's down with that Juggalo life.

1133
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: So I swear to God this is true, Lizbe don't

1134
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: look at me like that. He did. He went to

1135
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: them and said, I want you to be on my

1136
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: next track. They didn't approach him this time. He came

1137
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: to them.

1138
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1139
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: I think it was because they're all from Detroit. I

1140
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: don't know, but Violent j thought it might be for

1141
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: other reasons. What are those other reasons? Great questions. I

1142
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: like how you've come around on this story.

1143
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1144
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: So the story goes in the week just before the

1145
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: twelfth annual gathering of the Juggalos, Jack White reaches out

1146
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: to Insane Clown Posse invites Violent Jay and Shaggy two

1147
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: Dope to come out to his crib right to chill

1148
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 2: with him, talk music culture and then maybe lay down

1149
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: a track together. The dudes from ICP. They're flattered. I mean,

1150
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: it's Jack White. So they roll out to his mansion.

1151
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 2: Jack White is there. He invites them in niggig Chilly

1152
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: the guest the vibes right because he asks them to

1153
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: listen to a track he's working on. He'd like them

1154
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: to cover it.

1155
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1156
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: Jack White goes over to his like high fidelity sound

1157
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: system and he hits play. The song is this track

1158
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: he's been working on. It's an old song, old old song,

1159
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: like a classic music song. It's by Wolfgang Amadeis Mozet,

1160
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: and he wants insane clown posse.

1161
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: It's just like the biggest prank.

1162
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: The song is called lech mikim arse iw me. To

1163
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: translate in English, that means lick me in the which

1164
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 2: was equivalent in the time of the song as our

1165
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: term kiss my right. So you see, Elizabeth. The song

1166
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: was a funny little tune Mozart composed as a composition

1167
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: in B flat major if you're curious, and it was

1168
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: meant to be sung by six people, sung in the

1169
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: round like a Christmas carol or something.

1170
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did not do that. In chorus, No, I.

1171
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: Don't you don't think he probably covered this one musical historians.

1172
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: They think of this song as like a party song

1173
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: that Mozart would perform with his like theater friends.

1174
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: Right.

1175
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: So Jack White he asked Insane clown Posse if they

1176
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: want to jam on this track, and Violent Ja is

1177
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: like offended. He's like, that's what you think, insane clown

1178
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: past he is about like dookie jokes for fuddy duddies.

1179
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and Jack White he calms him back down.

1180
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: He's like, no, man, we're all outsiders in this industry.

1181
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: They laugh at us like they did Mozart. We're gonna say,

1182
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: kiss my make it musical and Violent Jay and Shaggy

1183
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: two Dope they're like, still have their doubts, though, Jack

1184
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: White's gonna win them over. So he explains to them

1185
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: that Mozart was known for his devilish sense of humor.

1186
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: He was really into like scatological jokes. And they're like okay.

1187
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: He's like yeah, he's just like you guys. He's like word, yeah,

1188
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: he's like us. Mozart's like us, yeah, yeah, totally. Jack

1189
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: White sells them on the idea Mozart is just like

1190
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: insane clown Posse, And so they come back the next

1191
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: day to a studio, they nail their song in one take.

1192
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: Such the story goes, that track became the Jack White

1193
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: single Mountain Girl if you want to go listen to it.

1194
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: After that, they held the twelve annual Gathering of the

1195
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: Juggles and it was a mind bender. Each night the

1196
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: main stage was hosted by a celebrity. One night it

1197
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: was none other than Charlie Sheen at the height of

1198
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: his Tiger Blood era. Yeah, yeah, you remember, so think

1199
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: of that and then just expand out. So that's the

1200
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: culture at the time. Another night, the main stage was

1201
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: hosted by Flavor Flave at his like the Flavor of

1202
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: Love era. So the musical acts that year Little John Exhibit,

1203
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: Buster Rhymes, Ice Cube, Juvenile Mystical, and Parliament Funkadelic, A

1204
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: bad lineup. Whole thing streamed live on pay per view,

1205
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: just like Woodstock ninety nine. Things have come full.

1206
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah exactly.

1207
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 2: Now. That same year, perhaps bolstered by all their success,

1208
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: insane clown Boss, they decide, well, why don't we go

1209
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: for another win, So they take on their greatest rival yet,

1210
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: American law enforcement. The clown Face Rappers took the FBI

1211
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: to court wait for deeming the Juggalos to be quote

1212
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: a loosely organized hybrid gang.

1213
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing.

1214
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: The twenty eleven FBI reports stated that the Jugglos were

1215
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: quote recognized as a gang in only four states law

1216
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: enforcement officials, and at least twenty one states have identified

1217
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: criminal Juggalo sub sets. Now, personally, I think their lawsuit

1218
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: was more about getting publicity than expected judgment in their favor.

1219
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: R it's me they have the legal fund.

1220
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1221
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, after a year, in August twenty thirteen, the FBI

1222
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: lawyers quote filed a motion to dismiss the case, saying

1223
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 2: that they had already released several news media reports about

1224
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: Jugglos involved in criminal activity, which proved their report was

1225
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: not prejudicial. Then the ACLU got involved, that's right, Elizabeth.

1226
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: The American Civil liberties unions like, we're down with the insane.

1227
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: Clown possess we get donations, let's set them on fire,

1228
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: let's just throw theything else happened.

1229
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: There then throwing the sewer.

1230
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: Clown poles like, come.

1231
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: On, yes, in twenty eleven, twelve thirteen.

1232
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: If you gave money today those years.

1233
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: More of terror protesters might need some money from the anyway.

1234
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, got it, Violent Ja, Shaggy two Dope and

1235
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: the ACLU. They go in, they refile their lawsuit against

1236
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: the FBI. They step into court arm in arm like

1237
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: now they refiled the lawsuit immediately, not immediately, but rather

1238
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: quickly thrown out a court. Yeah, ACLU though, they got

1239
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: that dog in them right, So they appeal and insane

1240
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: clown Posse wins on appeal. No, the Juggalos beat the FBI.

1241
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, a federal appeals court took the side

1242
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: of Violent Jay and Shaggy two Dope and all their

1243
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: Juggalo fans, and the court ordered the FBI to remove

1244
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 2: the Juggalos from their federal list of known gangs, which

1245
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: is a touch ironic since the band started out as

1246
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: a gang. But you know, whatever, good for them. I

1247
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: love to see a bunch of face painted horror core

1248
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: white rappers from Detroit beat the FBI.

1249
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.

1250
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: So what's our ridiculous takeaway here.

1251
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Elizabeth oh Man, Uh, you know, face paint and fago.

1252
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. My takeaway is that I always say,

1253
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: as long as they aren't hurting anybody, and it sounds

1254
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: like they hurt people, but whatever.

1255
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 2: But people like who are on their level. I think

1256
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: for the most part.

1257
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 1: It's a little hurt within their group.

1258
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, I care now. To be honest, I used

1259
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: to judge the Jugglers. I was aware of them before

1260
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: I did this research. I used to look down on

1261
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: the gatherings as like the world's worst rave or something.

1262
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: And I'm sure real bad things do go down at

1263
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: the gatherings, right, But largely I had my mind changed

1264
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: about the Jugglers doing research for this one, which is

1265
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: always a good thing to give up a silly old bias. Yeah,

1266
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: I preferred always root for underdogs. I know you do too,

1267
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: even once you're wearing face paint and sound like idiots.

1268
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: That's true. So what's true?

1269
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: What's fresh in the mood for you? Are you in

1270
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: the mood for talkback? Could you favor us with one?

1271
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: Let's see what I got here?

1272
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love you.

1273
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, guys, I just got down listening to the

1274
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: Pokemon card theft episode, and I just want to confess

1275
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: that I used to be a getaway driver for some

1276
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: friends still Magic the gathering cards from Walmart, and even

1277
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 4: though they I got a cut from it, I never

1278
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 4: got anything good anyways. Still wenting on that cease and

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Speaker 4: desist from Elizabeth for being part of the furry community

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