Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host. Now, funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone. What's happening today down in Florida? The
Speaker 1: only one fucked up thing, feel me? And fucking Florida
Speaker 1: is fucking storms. I'll take those. I'll take those. That's
Speaker 1: worth it. The taxes alone is worth it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you forget I lost every possession I ever
Speaker 1: owned in the fire in the Western US. So two times.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about rhand des sentis man? Those
Speaker 1: fantastic It's guy, that's my man. That's my man right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So is it the fact that California is liberal that
Speaker 1: they tend to make the proud white man the villain? Ore?
Speaker 1: Is it because history shows that, Like I noticed, how
Speaker 1: the media covers Ryan de Santis in California is totally
Speaker 1: different than I would imagine people in Florida phil about him. Totally.
Speaker 1: I mean, Rhonda Santis is basically the champion for the
Speaker 1: anti you know, machine movement. I mean he was. He
Speaker 1: was anti COVID lockdowns, he was anti vaccine mandates. He's
Speaker 1: anti I mean this case. He's on the news because
Speaker 1: he's sending along with the governor of Texas, you know,
Speaker 1: open border illegal immigrant residents up to places where the
Speaker 1: people who vote for all of them, you know, live,
Speaker 1: which has led to some great sound by It's including
Speaker 1: maybe the mayor of d C or Chicago, somebody up
Speaker 1: there saying, oh, it's a tremendous strain on our resources.
Speaker 1: We don't we're not equipped for this, like the border
Speaker 1: towns are what border town is equipped for that, it
Speaker 1: is Laredo equipped to take on people in a in
Speaker 1: a month. I am not going to lie. I find
Speaker 1: that ship hilarious. Else it's captivating the fucking the fucking
Speaker 1: governor of Texas and the governor of fucking Florida taking
Speaker 1: people that illegally enter the country in busses and planes
Speaker 1: and ship and flying them and driving them to the
Speaker 1: states that act like they are pro you know that
Speaker 1: they are pro uh prop borders. It's it's easy to
Speaker 1: be pro open borders and massach us. It's I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit you're afraid of a bunch of Canadians coming
Speaker 1: down with all their syrup and weird accents. No Canada
Speaker 1: border is so tight they like you is not crossing
Speaker 1: over this ship Jesus, dude, it's crazy. I talked to
Speaker 1: two Cuban guys in an eight day period who both
Speaker 1: had family here that wired them ten thousand dollars each
Speaker 1: so they could go from Cuba to Nicaragua, through Honduras,
Speaker 1: through Guatemala to link up with a cartel team at
Speaker 1: the border of Mexico and gaut and Mexico and Guatemala.
Speaker 1: And they got trafficked by a cartel team all the
Speaker 1: way to the San Diego Tijuana porta entry, both of them,
Speaker 1: one in June, one in August. Both of them went
Speaker 1: through San Diego all the way to San Francisco, where
Speaker 1: they were able to have a flight flight from San
Speaker 1: Francisco to Florida, same exact track, same exact um trafficking
Speaker 1: apparatus through Mexico and they and they had nothing bad
Speaker 1: to say about Nicaragua, Honduras and Guatemala and everything bad
Speaker 1: to say about Mexico. They said, every rumor you here
Speaker 1: is true times ten. Because I asked on the second guy,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just gonna ask. These guys are cool
Speaker 1: because they were just trying to learn English, so so
Speaker 1: like there's certain words that they don't know, like the
Speaker 1: little serious. I'm like, well, like the NEOs, They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh you know Spanish. I don't know Spanish. I know
Speaker 1: a few words. Yeah, and they were like, oh, Mexico
Speaker 1: is like um, and they're like trying to around like
Speaker 1: Poro Bardio like so they do that. But I was like,
Speaker 1: let me, are they really are they really like raping
Speaker 1: these girls all over the place and they go, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like what I would like that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that, you know what. I yeah. They was
Speaker 1: like score down. Um. He didn't say like he was
Speaker 1: the guy is being moved up. To be clear, aren't
Speaker 1: the ones doing it? It's the guys. It's like cattle
Speaker 1: hurters like you have ever seen the movie See Slickers.
Speaker 1: It's it's like it'd be like the old cowboy guy,
Speaker 1: but it's they're not moving cattle. They moving people. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Why aren't they dropping off the bus filled with people
Speaker 1: to California. They are. California just doesn't complain about it.
Speaker 1: I mean like, if you go to parts of the
Speaker 1: Central Valley and like the west Lake District and spots
Speaker 1: like that, it's just packed out with people. But California
Speaker 1: is content to let them be there and just take
Speaker 1: the federal funding as they can get it. Mm hm,
Speaker 1: who is the governor of Texas? For guys, the guy
Speaker 1: in the wheelchair? I forgot his name. I really like,
Speaker 1: that's it hilarious. You know what's funny? Policies politics hasn't
Speaker 1: been this entertaining in a long time, ever since Trump
Speaker 1: came and then since it's been in there taining it
Speaker 1: has been I like how I mean, like God, Like,
Speaker 1: you could go to a certain school district in California
Speaker 1: that have more illegal residents within the you know, the
Speaker 1: the zip code of the school district, and you get
Speaker 1: less than that, and some of these things they declared
Speaker 1: a state of emergency, like to city in New York,
Speaker 1: which has ten million people, the clear state of emergency.
Speaker 1: Funny because I've seen that the earlier news report you're
Speaker 1: talk about. It was like, yeah, it's all these people
Speaker 1: is going against all and that we don't have enough resources.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking to myself, like, yeah, you are
Speaker 1: a country. That's okay, So here here's a better question.
Speaker 1: Here's a better question. Okay, Now I'm not quite sure
Speaker 1: this is more of your expertise, because so I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna speaking just from what I knew or what I've heard.
Speaker 1: So the whole idea of America, right was built on
Speaker 1: to some level of illegal immigration, right, Like, that's part
Speaker 1: of the idea, person, I mean, if you want to
Speaker 1: consider it depends on how you define boundaries, like people
Speaker 1: coming from the Old Country coming through the eastern border
Speaker 1: of the United States. True, that was really only true
Speaker 1: for a small period of time, and the broader scope
Speaker 1: because by the early twentieth century, like once like the
Speaker 1: Italians and the Southern Medicrans started coming through. They came
Speaker 1: through in big, big, big numbers, illegally at first, and
Speaker 1: then they cut it off pretty quick. That that's when
Speaker 1: they established the laws. We had to come through Ellis
Speaker 1: Island and register, and there was a cap and a
Speaker 1: quota cap. There's been for over a hundred years. M
Speaker 1: there's been a quota cap for like over a hundred years,
Speaker 1: I believe, of how many people that should be able
Speaker 1: to come from the Old Country to this, yeah, like
Speaker 1: per country, and the total and how the total number
Speaker 1: we allow and will be divvied up in that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Mm hmmm. So is it the model that
Speaker 1: America created to build his country? Is it not sustainable.
Speaker 1: It depends. I mean, like you scale matters, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: there's to me the real Like if you ask my
Speaker 1: personal opinion, the issue isn't the people. The issue is
Speaker 1: There's also been a lot of policy changes along the
Speaker 1: way with various things like if you if you was
Speaker 1: asked me, do you want fifty million illegal umorists moving here? Sure?
Speaker 1: But everybody is now entitled to all these various government
Speaker 1: programs that cost money. So in eighteen ninety if Billy
Speaker 1: Oh O'Malley or whoever from Ireland, yeah, if he came
Speaker 1: through where a German guy came through, they didn't get dick.
Speaker 1: They just got to be here, you know, which is true?
Speaker 1: I heard, I heard a lot of people are a
Speaker 1: lot of people from the Old Country got land at
Speaker 1: a certain time there was land rushes and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people died on the land and
Speaker 1: died on their way trying to get there. You know.
Speaker 1: So just because like if you dumped me out in
Speaker 1: the middle of South Dakota with ten acres, I'm gonna die. Sure,
Speaker 1: because you don't know how to do all of this
Speaker 1: stuff that needs to be done to build to land.
Speaker 1: And even if I knew if you just dumped me
Speaker 1: off their flat ass broke, I'm not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to have the means to do it, you know. Like
Speaker 1: like my great grandparents from southern Italy. They were teenagers
Speaker 1: there I think we're fourteen fifteen. Their families put them
Speaker 1: on a boat and said see it by themselves, and
Speaker 1: they met each other on the boat and got married.
Speaker 1: Um Reggio, Calabria and Sicily like a small town outside
Speaker 1: of Palermo. So like the mafia towns. Why do people
Speaker 1: Why would somebody from Sicily send somebody to America? Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean if you look at at the time, what
Speaker 1: a ship show it'll well. I mean that's like the
Speaker 1: poor region of Italy. But Italy was such it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was such a dilapidated mess. I think of how
Speaker 1: dilapidated a Messa country has to be to pursue Mussolini.
Speaker 1: Those aren't the best of times, No sailors, Gail, my boy, Peter,
Speaker 1: we're in here talking that talk. So DESI for the
Speaker 1: desight for the mentally weak. So if you're mentally weak,
Speaker 1: if you don't have enough fortitude to think, if you
Speaker 1: don't have time to think, if you're watching your children.
Speaker 1: If you getting caught up in sports of the New
Speaker 1: Dahmer program on Netflix, this might be a little bit
Speaker 1: too much for you. So can I stay yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So this is one of those conversations. Um okay. So
Speaker 1: Italy at that point had to be a ship show, right,
Speaker 1: most European countries total ship show. Okay, So the first
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's let's let's back back a little
Speaker 1: bit right to the beginning of this motherfucker right too,
Speaker 1: as people start coming over here, which is the four hundreds, right,
Speaker 1: four hundred, fifteen hundreds, I think there was trace in
Speaker 1: the fifteen in the sixteen it was you know, an
Speaker 1: accelerating scale, right. So the first people that came to
Speaker 1: establish I think Plymouth Rock was in the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: and that was like the first person on continental United States.
Speaker 1: You said, oh, it's like Plymouth Rock and like the
Speaker 1: Pilgrims that was like fifteen hundreds. That was like you know,
Speaker 1: first white phone, yeah, or the earliest white phone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In theory. Okay, so when they illegally immigrated to this,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that the native people at law. So when
Speaker 1: they illegally immigrated here, right. Um. A lot of the
Speaker 1: people that came here, right, came because they were under Okay,
Speaker 1: now this is again this is loose because I'm aware
Speaker 1: of history, but I'm really and there's I'm conus of
Speaker 1: how I accept how people tell me stories. I know
Speaker 1: the winners, like when I look at it, like the
Speaker 1: n w A movie. I'm really conscious of how the
Speaker 1: story is told because the winners are telling the story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gang Cub being the winners. Um, just like America. So
Speaker 1: throughout you know, history classes, I've always been conscious like, okay,
Speaker 1: the winners are telling the story. So I always listened
Speaker 1: to both sides of the stories as much as I
Speaker 1: can get and start trying to figure out in the
Speaker 1: middle which actually makes sense. So the rule in England
Speaker 1: was super oppressive at the time, just to stop. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty like they was enslaving you but you couldn't
Speaker 1: get ahead. Yeah yeah, I mean like Europe has always been.
Speaker 1: And we talked about that, like I looked up at death.
Speaker 1: I remember of several episodes back talked about um serfdom
Speaker 1: and the feudal system. Remember the definition of it was
Speaker 1: you had a lord who owned the land. This is
Speaker 1: such this. This is some slick ass white people ship here.
Speaker 1: This definition is good. This is Clintonian. This is Bill
Speaker 1: Clinton ducking that blowjob type slick Biden and the printedtor
Speaker 1: super predators. Uha. It was the land is owned by
Speaker 1: the lord, and the people are owned by the land.
Speaker 1: The people are the property of the land. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't I own the people, it was I own the
Speaker 1: land and the people there are the property of the land.
Speaker 1: So if you're staying here your mind not technically yes,
Speaker 1: but yes, absolute degree of street type degree. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you saw that in the beginning of that was playing
Speaker 1: out pretty decently in the beginning of the movie Braveheart
Speaker 1: where the lord comes and knocks down the guy's wife
Speaker 1: and this is my girl. Oh this you're what? No,
Speaker 1: she's my I on this land and yeah, you're my subject.
Speaker 1: That was ill. So I can see why England got
Speaker 1: mad because it was like, oh you motherfucker, that was sup.
Speaker 1: The Irish people hard so moving forward, Um, so they
Speaker 1: were leaving so they said, okay, So then that that
Speaker 1: means in theory they had to escape the rule. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how much it was like Cuba, like escaping Cuba,
Speaker 1: not a slave escaping a plantation, right, not a slave.
Speaker 1: And this is also like slightly post Magna carta. So
Speaker 1: you're in a bit of a transitional period. It's it's
Speaker 1: not like the year thousand, it's like the year fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1: So it's you're escaping like religious persecution and a shitty
Speaker 1: economy and a lot of stuff like anything. Any yeah,
Speaker 1: reasonable sense of oppression. Yeah, and but yeah, but like
Speaker 1: when you look at you were free to leave. You
Speaker 1: just couldn't really pull it off very easily. It's not
Speaker 1: like Cuba or they don't want you to leave, like,
Speaker 1: but you can't leave, yeah, which is why I said
Speaker 1: escape lightly, not escape, but escaped lightly. You you get
Speaker 1: on this boat to America, whatever they charge you, you're
Speaker 1: gonna come to this free land. You know, you come
Speaker 1: into this land. And then when you get to this land, right,
Speaker 1: it's still so underdeveloped, right, so they still have the
Speaker 1: power to tax you from over there. Yes, yes, so
Speaker 1: like you were here, and that was largely because I
Speaker 1: mean if you look at and and here's a couple
Speaker 1: of things that I here discussed, like the idea that oh,
Speaker 1: if European columnists didn't take over North America, then these
Speaker 1: people from Central America could move up to North America
Speaker 1: and whatever else anyway, which is not true. Um, the
Speaker 1: reason why Spain was able to conquered the Aztecs like
Speaker 1: Aztec hegemony was enormous, you know. I mean they had
Speaker 1: taken over like half of North America. They had every
Speaker 1: advantage in numbers and force and whatever you could think of.
Speaker 1: England gets a hard deal France, Spain did the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. And and and the Dutch that the big
Speaker 1: footprint England drove them out. New York was New Amsterdam
Speaker 1: before it was New York. Oh was New Incident. And
Speaker 1: the Ducks don't get enough slander for being a huge
Speaker 1: central part of the slave trade because if you start talking,
Speaker 1: they start dancing in those wooden clocks and they just
Speaker 1: drowned your right on out, or they or they fly
Speaker 1: you to the red light district and have the prostitutes
Speaker 1: in the weed problems. Brother, for sure, we forget that
Speaker 1: we were picking you up from Africa and sell you
Speaker 1: all over to the Western region. And they're also smart
Speaker 1: because their country kind of has two names. Are they
Speaker 1: the Netherlands? Are they Holland? If it's good news, they're
Speaker 1: the Netherlands. If it's bad news, they're Holland. Fuck it,
Speaker 1: it's pretty slick. I mean, I'm in, I'm in. So
Speaker 1: those European countries, I like to call them Western, the
Speaker 1: west coast of Europe. Yeah, you know, to sub degree,
Speaker 1: were like these super aggressive you know. Uh, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: They were the maritime economies, so they were tres economies,
Speaker 1: were heavily involved with oceanic trade, and that led to
Speaker 1: them expanding on the reach of their economics capacity. Know
Speaker 1: that New York was originally New Amsterdam, but most people
Speaker 1: don't realize New York is not one word. It's the
Speaker 1: New York England. It's York England. Yeah, maybe like New
Speaker 1: Yorkshire or something. You know, it's York England, New York England.
Speaker 1: So it's the New York. Uh. England is the New England.
Speaker 1: Uh Hampshire or Hampshire is Hampshire England. So like Edward,
Speaker 1: they want to rename it, like, well, this is the
Speaker 1: better version of York. Yeah, I'm not sure Albuquerque is
Speaker 1: a better version of Mexico, though I think New Mexico
Speaker 1: some marketing cree card Monty there. They for sure did
Speaker 1: not get that right. But um, and you kind of
Speaker 1: saw the same thing play out with like the the
Speaker 1: French and Indian wars that you saw with like Spain
Speaker 1: and the Aztecs. I mean, the Aztecs were brutalizing like
Speaker 1: tons of tribes, and they were pretty arcane in the
Speaker 1: way that they would go about that they would conquer
Speaker 1: and sacrifice people. So in Spain and a very limited
Speaker 1: force rolled up and said, hey, we kind of have
Speaker 1: enough to like funk with these guys. You want to
Speaker 1: get rid of these Aztecs. And they're like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: tired of getting burned at the steak and our heads
Speaker 1: lopped off shore. So they united tons of tribes to
Speaker 1: work with them to fight against the Aztecs. And Aztecs
Speaker 1: are pretty brutal, so it wasn't yeah so easy. As
Speaker 1: like Indian nations were established, they fought each other. You
Speaker 1: couldn't sure, I mean any any time those nations. They
Speaker 1: don't matter whether the exact same or completely different, they're
Speaker 1: going to find people just I mean, whether you believe
Speaker 1: in and and you know, if you're into the Bible,
Speaker 1: Adam and Eve kids were squabbling and somebody got knocked off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: human beings if it's too. They're gonna fight, have to
Speaker 1: escape people one, he's going to fight itself. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so now so now so now they're illegally immigrating into
Speaker 1: this new land, right and it's people here establishing in
Speaker 1: theory the same thing that was established in England ahead
Speaker 1: of time. Um, railroad systems. Oh yeah, yeah, they're bringing
Speaker 1: Western technology, all the same things that create the wealth.
Speaker 1: Mhm um. So they illegally immigrated. So England is the
Speaker 1: first group of Western European West coast European folks that
Speaker 1: came to America at at at at a high pain,
Speaker 1: not not completely because I think Spain Christopher Columbus, he
Speaker 1: gets a lot of slacking. I think, right, no, he's
Speaker 1: he's he He was Italian, but Italy didn't want to
Speaker 1: front of the money, so Spain started fronting Italian seafarers
Speaker 1: like Magellan and Columbus and guys like that. Okay, so
Speaker 1: who is the first? Who was the first mass grove
Speaker 1: of people coming to the New Land? Do we know
Speaker 1: that to be true? It was really it was all
Speaker 1: those countries, um, because I noticed the English were super
Speaker 1: prejudiced to a lot of Irish people, initially Italian people Initially,
Speaker 1: I don't think the French ever came and grows. Yeah
Speaker 1: they did, they did. I mean I think they were
Speaker 1: around the first time when everybody was coming to discover
Speaker 1: because I know the French has some kind of locked on.
Speaker 1: French Canada had Louisiana. They had that, but they also
Speaker 1: had French Canada. Yeah, so so the top part of
Speaker 1: where we're at. But outside of Louisiana, I guess they
Speaker 1: did come and grow. That's why they was able to.
Speaker 1: They were both because they had Haiti, they had a
Speaker 1: lot of those islands, Martinique, all those places in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: They had New Orleans and all that. But they also
Speaker 1: I think that happened probably be a little bit later
Speaker 1: or man, I don't know, I'm not sure. Don't quote
Speaker 1: me on that, don't qute me on that. But they
Speaker 1: also they were you know, um, you know, like like Montreal.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that whole region French Canada has been
Speaker 1: there since. I think like, yeah, yeah, my homeboys, a
Speaker 1: lot of my homeboys beak frieze. A lot of the
Speaker 1: boxers that are life in Canada speak freeze. Um. Did
Speaker 1: the Spanish ever come in huge grows illegally yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that, like down here, they're like, who's the because
Speaker 1: Pons de Leon came up they they went down they
Speaker 1: were they were like like Ponce de Leon in Florida.
Speaker 1: There's still you know, even like in Jamaica, like Spanish Town, Utos,
Speaker 1: Riosty had all those islands. They came to Mexico with
Speaker 1: the Catholics and the Conkys to doors and then they
Speaker 1: were all through South America, Central America. They went that way,
Speaker 1: and then Portugal went and grabbed Brazil. Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I know they went down further. For sure, they went
Speaker 1: to the southern part of the western parts of the land.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, so in in America they came for sure,
Speaker 1: they had to be in Florida. That's true. They had
Speaker 1: to be in Florida if they came from that way. Um,
Speaker 1: so they came from Florida. Okay, that makes sense. So
Speaker 1: then how did England I feel like it had ownership
Speaker 1: over the illegal immigrants that came here from England when
Speaker 1: it was so it had to be they had to
Speaker 1: be the most because they were super oppressive. I heard
Speaker 1: the English people who I read the English people were
Speaker 1: super oppressive over Irish and Italian people that were here
Speaker 1: in like the hundreds or sixteen seventeen, even up to
Speaker 1: low key to the eighteen hundreds, the average English and
Speaker 1: that was in America. I heard Irish people in Italian
Speaker 1: people got the stick. Yeah, Irish people were not looked
Speaker 1: at very well. Italians were looked at worse. I mean
Speaker 1: it was Italians were kind of like the like what
Speaker 1: you see now with black people at like bar districts.
Speaker 1: I know for sure they would call them Irish niggers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the Patti wagon was a big wagon that they
Speaker 1: would pull up to Irish bars and rest all the
Speaker 1: guys when they were leaving drunk. Yeah. But I remember
Speaker 1: watching Gangs of New York. I remember watching Gangs in
Speaker 1: New York and how oppressive they were in that movie.
Speaker 1: So I've read it, you know, for years, and then
Speaker 1: they had a film talking about it. And those people
Speaker 1: were coming to the US. They weren't coming to like
Speaker 1: like the established US. They weren't really coming in in
Speaker 1: the colonial establishment period. So it's a couple hundred year distinction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is early. Yeah, but I know that to some degree,
Speaker 1: the at least immigrants from English had to feel the
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants from England had to have some kind of
Speaker 1: feel like they had claim over this. Yeah, they did,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that they felt that way
Speaker 1: because you would get essentially, if not for any of
Speaker 1: the reason, it was a it was an area that
Speaker 1: was being fought for. So you had English people who
Speaker 1: were there who had good relationships with the old country
Speaker 1: to some degree, and there'd be French people there, and
Speaker 1: then the French would try to probably or Dutch or
Speaker 1: whoever else would try to you know, push them over,
Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, there would be a
Speaker 1: fight for territory and the English. One. English were pretty
Speaker 1: prolific militarily at that time, and they just don't even
Speaker 1: the rejects, the legal immigrants that came here because to
Speaker 1: some degree they had to have some kind of business
Speaker 1: going with England. Still, there was there was a time
Speaker 1: lapse between Revolutionary War seventeen seventy, right, Yeah, but there
Speaker 1: was like between like the early like Pilgrims, I think
Speaker 1: we're kind of almost like quakery type of people. But
Speaker 1: after that m it wasn't just people escaping that. It
Speaker 1: was like I think, I think Spain, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I believe started to capitalize on on being here and
Speaker 1: once you see commerce, now you see a commodity, so
Speaker 1: then you so then you send a military sees it. Mmm.
Speaker 1: So when that happened, you start getting people who are
Speaker 1: over there to make money, and now you need to
Speaker 1: secure your trade lines and you just secure your assets
Speaker 1: mm hm. And I think that was that was like
Speaker 1: the turning point. Pning was just they were just better
Speaker 1: at that stuff in the other countries at that time. Okay,
Speaker 1: So at which phase would America had noticed that they
Speaker 1: were starting to take into it? At which phase would
Speaker 1: the Mottel start to be questioned? How early? What aspect
Speaker 1: of the what do you mean? Questions? Like every last time? Sure,
Speaker 1: let's go ethnically at that point, because every last time,
Speaker 1: whoever was here complained about people sending more people here,
Speaker 1: like I read about it in certain books. And then
Speaker 1: you know again like when the English people they would
Speaker 1: be super oppressive when the Irish people would come, and
Speaker 1: then the Irish people felt that more claim than the
Speaker 1: Italian people because I think the Irish people came and
Speaker 1: grows before the Italian people, right, Yeah, the Italian people
Speaker 1: had to be the last people. They were like early
Speaker 1: twentieth century and Irish and German people came like the
Speaker 1: latter half of the nineteenth century exactly, like one thing
Speaker 1: on the time of your grandparents came. Yeah, it came
Speaker 1: in like the twenties something like that. That had to
Speaker 1: be the migrating, the Great migration for sure, if Italy
Speaker 1: had one coming into this country. Oh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: like that. The teens in twenties was when the moms started.
Speaker 1: Yeah late team would have been early, but that had
Speaker 1: been like the beginning. Yeah, and then the Irish people
Speaker 1: is a lot closer into the mid to early eighteens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you and there was a fair number of
Speaker 1: like Scandinavian people that came over. Um, you know that
Speaker 1: we're up in the like you know, you kind of
Speaker 1: hear that Scandinavian style accent and like the Minnesota parts
Speaker 1: of the country, and I never thought about that they
Speaker 1: were there for a long time. Um, it's it depends
Speaker 1: that there's do you do let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: This this is this could be a bit raised baby,
Speaker 1: but do you here for only became a problem once
Speaker 1: it was somebody that was it white, because well take
Speaker 1: that back, it was always a problem. Every last settler
Speaker 1: that was here always complained about the next group from
Speaker 1: somewhere else coming. Yeah, And and and another thing to
Speaker 1: keep in mind too, like you see and when you
Speaker 1: examine like a large group of people and their opinion,
Speaker 1: there's there's mixed opinions. So one group of people was
Speaker 1: looking at like say, manifest destiny, We're going to expand
Speaker 1: the boundaries of the United States all the way to
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. We're gonna grow, we're
Speaker 1: gonna develop, we want more people here. The more people
Speaker 1: that come here, the more we develop. Blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And you have other people who
Speaker 1: at the same time look at and going quit sending
Speaker 1: these people here because they're threatening my miniature local monopoly
Speaker 1: on commerce. So so you have that conflict all the time.
Speaker 1: And it would be the two things that people complain
Speaker 1: about because they take that they've taken our job is
Speaker 1: something that's been around since the sevent Yeah, like taking
Speaker 1: our jobs have been that whole model. Oh, they're taking
Speaker 1: our jobs has been around since the first Irish people
Speaker 1: started coming here. If we're being honest, it probably started
Speaker 1: in the old Country and people came here because someone
Speaker 1: back there took their job and then they finally got
Speaker 1: their fucking job back on the other side of the world.
Speaker 1: Some other asshole shows up. It takes it from the off.
Speaker 1: How I do all this for? I could have stay
Speaker 1: at home? Okay, So side note back before we before
Speaker 1: we can go here. You so it has sauthern Italy
Speaker 1: got it together at this point. Now no, still don't
Speaker 1: have it together. Still a mess. What is wrong? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean Italy and itself as a ship show.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's commerce there, there's stuff that happens there.
Speaker 1: Most of the innovation does occur in central and northern Italy,
Speaker 1: and down there there's nobody wants to go. To me,
Speaker 1: it's the most beautiful part of the country geologically, I
Speaker 1: mean beautiful. Yeah, I mean you can make that argument, certainly,
Speaker 1: Um I would. Uh, there's no tourism there. I've never
Speaker 1: met anybody who's gone. I mean, it's like a rite
Speaker 1: of passage among white people to go to Europe and
Speaker 1: backpack around or jerk off whatever the hell they do
Speaker 1: over there. I'm not going, but then they can go.
Speaker 1: But I've never talked to one that's been to either
Speaker 1: of those regions not one. Yeah, and that hurts. I mean,
Speaker 1: how much money to other people spend just walking around
Speaker 1: and looking at shipping rome every year? You know, as
Speaker 1: you say that a fucking a lot, and all the
Speaker 1: flavor comes from south of Italy. That's the funk up
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, um okay, So back into it. So
Speaker 1: when do you think that started to happen? Right, like,
Speaker 1: if this has been the American way the whole time
Speaker 1: to some degree, right, to some degree has been most
Speaker 1: people came here, most of the earliest settlers came here legally.
Speaker 1: Nobody literally, you know, even the whole Ellis Island idea
Speaker 1: probably worked for I think they said, I was reading
Speaker 1: it was somewhere about four out of ten people that came. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went through Alison, huge numbers. Yeah. Um, so is
Speaker 1: the Mottel a bad model from the start? No? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, look, my ideological prejudices are totally priced into
Speaker 1: my answer. I don't think it's really even a problem today,
Speaker 1: but for the fact that you cannot, like you have
Speaker 1: a balance sheet, you know, on on like our budgets
Speaker 1: a comedy routine at this point, but we're in debt
Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, trillions of dollars. And for people who
Speaker 1: don't like renegotiating the price of an orange at the checkout,
Speaker 1: as the dollar value collapses in real time, you have
Speaker 1: to understand, like, okay, we have as a matter of
Speaker 1: law now a lot of public services and a lot
Speaker 1: of like individual subsidies financially. So two things happened. When
Speaker 1: the horizon line on the physical area of the United
Speaker 1: States is expanding. It's not that big a deal if
Speaker 1: people are coming into fil empty space, but once you
Speaker 1: hit that other ocean, now you're packing it in. So
Speaker 1: that's one thing. The other thing, and I think is
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, is just simply you have new laws
Speaker 1: in place, and it's just very very expensive. I mean,
Speaker 1: like if you I mean most places where if you're
Speaker 1: like low income and it's in the public school, those
Speaker 1: are the most expensive per pupil prices for education. Your
Speaker 1: plus they have all the meal plans. So if you're
Speaker 1: a mom and dad with two kids, that's probably forty
Speaker 1: dollars a year for the education. You're getting some EBT
Speaker 1: money on top of that. Now you're up over fifty,
Speaker 1: you get free healthcare. You're now into the sixties. And
Speaker 1: if you get Housing subsidies are now into the seventies
Speaker 1: or eighties, depending on where you are in what are
Speaker 1: part of the country. That's a lot of money to
Speaker 1: take in when you start factoring there's other people here
Speaker 1: that probably have a better claim to that. So is
Speaker 1: it really a better claim if everybody came here illegally
Speaker 1: to some degree, even if they're now legally a resident. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: because if somebody, if somebody, really, what's the difference between
Speaker 1: the US and Mexican I get your point, right, I
Speaker 1: get the thought. It makes perfect sense. We can't afford it. Well,
Speaker 1: we can't afford to give away things the way we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if doing three million dollars earth, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: like three million people a year coming through the border
Speaker 1: right now, projected about if that costs and this is
Speaker 1: super this is comedy, low ball, but if it costs
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a person, that's thirty billion a year.
Speaker 1: And that's every year, year after year after year after
Speaker 1: year after year. So like that's that's an awful lot
Speaker 1: to ask, you know, so, and that number is gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot higher than that anyway, But like some
Speaker 1: of that all and generate revenue or is it not
Speaker 1: enough that's generating revenue, that's working jobs and being taxed. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're illegal, you can't really pay taxes is another thing.
Speaker 1: They have a set up for them to pay taxes,
Speaker 1: I know that for sure. Yeah, but they don't really
Speaker 1: have a great set up for them to be employed,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's illegal to hire them and and
Speaker 1: and and declare them jobs. Pretty fast, most people come
Speaker 1: into this country, especially from like the southern parts of
Speaker 1: the Western region, they come get jobs fast, for sure.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are cash paying. So when you
Speaker 1: get into a cash based off the book's economy, because
Speaker 1: you're because at that point the value then is undercutting labor.
Speaker 1: So like the what's the group the not the small business,
Speaker 1: the Chamber of commerce, it's it's the big you know,
Speaker 1: Chamber of commerce lobby that's always trying to bring more
Speaker 1: sub legal cost labor into the US that way, so
Speaker 1: they're always lobbying for open borders all the time. So
Speaker 1: like there's there's some value to that as well. I
Speaker 1: don't think it cancels itself out and on the aggregate
Speaker 1: as of the cancels itself out. So so for for you,
Speaker 1: it's the affordable cost, like because you could come here
Speaker 1: and immediately take advantage of the programs that are here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like the reality is like it's like to make
Speaker 1: it very very simple, Like the US and Mexico are
Speaker 1: both European colonialized nations, and one by spanning, one by England.
Speaker 1: Absolutely one of them built an economy that is very effective.
Speaker 1: The other one did not, or built one that's very ineffective. Whatever.
Speaker 1: So if you want to go from A to B,
Speaker 1: it's less about the sand and it's more about you know,
Speaker 1: what's happening on top of it. So now it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you have a right to be on the sand, sure,
Speaker 1: do you have a right to just grab you know,
Speaker 1: put your hand in the bucket? Now that's more of
Speaker 1: the debate to me personal Like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're here, but if you're here, you better
Speaker 1: be a value. Add you're not getting anything until you're
Speaker 1: on here, until until you're properly on paper here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I wouldn't say you gotta get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here, but I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay you to be here. You can't take advantage
Speaker 1: of free programs. Yeah, and it dumps on a lot
Speaker 1: of schools, like like California shouldn't be forty nine and
Speaker 1: the country and education forty eight, whatever the hell they are.
Speaker 1: It's a very sophisticated state. Because there's too many people
Speaker 1: in school, too many people and and and d. A
Speaker 1: c l U sued the Californi State Board of Education
Speaker 1: one to implement bilingual education, which makes education a lot
Speaker 1: of harder, you know. So it made it so much
Speaker 1: harder that the a c l you sued the California
Speaker 1: Board of Education again for having implemented what they sued
Speaker 1: them for the first time. Mm hm, just bizarre, but
Speaker 1: it happened. Um So, I mean, like said, I mean,
Speaker 1: suffice the same. You could go look at like South
Speaker 1: Dade County with all the Cuban immigrants. They're very Spanish.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Spanish money in Miami. It's not
Speaker 1: really so much like l A. They're fucking crushing it,
Speaker 1: you know. So there's there's all sorts of fluid different
Speaker 1: variable factors. There's already great examples. Yeah, I mean, there's yeah,
Speaker 1: playing there's I mean, it's like like there are plenty
Speaker 1: of examples, and you could close addressing point I mean
Speaker 1: San Gabriel Valley has a lot of Asian people that
Speaker 1: are doing very well. A lot of those people came
Speaker 1: here to flee, like the the Cultural Revolution under Mao.
Speaker 1: I mean, like my I was a a ring bearer
Speaker 1: and a wedding between two families that were from Hong Kong,
Speaker 1: but one of them was from mainland and came here
Speaker 1: circle Hong Kong. It was one guy. One guy on
Speaker 1: mainland during Mao's Cultural Revolution was trying to tell his family,
Speaker 1: you need to get out because they don't like us
Speaker 1: and they're gonna kill us. No, no, no, you're crazy,
Speaker 1: he said, funking, I'm out killed his whole family. My
Speaker 1: dad's friend has no lineage above his grandfather. They are
Speaker 1: all wiped off of existence. And this is out of
Speaker 1: Woods Country, China. So you have people like all in
Speaker 1: the San Gabriel Valley that came here with nothing but
Speaker 1: pants and do very very well. And there's people like
Speaker 1: you know, all throughout, like the Mexican American community who
Speaker 1: do very very well. It it's a little harder because
Speaker 1: like to to see because it's a constantly the number
Speaker 1: is getting is getting huge every day. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: as and as one guy moves from measurement of the best,
Speaker 1: you only seeing the the worst, actual wildcome, which is
Speaker 1: somebody that needs to come here and the met to
Speaker 1: take advantage of the programs exactly. And if you were
Speaker 1: to stare like, I'll use the West like district because
Speaker 1: you know it's a you know that neighborhood. You might
Speaker 1: look at it for twenty years and go, boy, it's
Speaker 1: been poor here for twenty years. They might not all
Speaker 1: probably half of them aren't the same people that were
Speaker 1: there twenty years ago. You're just looking at a block. Sure,
Speaker 1: so there's that too, and the other people might have
Speaker 1: moved on and done very well. Well, it's it's I
Speaker 1: always say that I can it's not really comparable because
Speaker 1: they come from you know, when you in Mexico, it's
Speaker 1: a different level of poverty, especially the northern parts of Mexico.
Speaker 1: Like poor in America and poor in Mexico is like
Speaker 1: night and day different. Um, I don't know uh about that.
Speaker 1: I've been I've hung in TJ for weeks. I've hung
Speaker 1: in the northern part. It is different. You've been to
Speaker 1: Oahaka and Chiapas not that far. Yeah, Okay, Like there's
Speaker 1: there's certainly different, Like Chiapas is so poor they tried
Speaker 1: to revolt and from Mexico in the nineties. Yeah, yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I think those places don't really even speak Spanish all
Speaker 1: the way. So here's another question, Um, is that why
Speaker 1: these countries try to become their own state? Like, is
Speaker 1: that why San Bernardino was trying to become its own state?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think some of the counties in
Speaker 1: California are trying to succeed California for a lot of reasons. Um,
Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do califol California's government.
Speaker 1: The rule is very oppressive. It's crazy because it's such
Speaker 1: a a place that gets regarded in its high regard
Speaker 1: as being a liberal place, but it's super oppressive on
Speaker 1: its own beliefs of how you should conduct business. And
Speaker 1: it's very regionally exploitative. So you have high concentrations of
Speaker 1: like minded voters in the metropolitan areas of Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and the greater San Francisco area that will vote to
Speaker 1: basically just rob like say, the Central Valley just dry.
Speaker 1: So so then the Central Valley and those places are
Speaker 1: like scool, We're out of here, m hm. And some
Speaker 1: of that might also include San Bernardino County. Sanbardino is
Speaker 1: a big county. There's a lot going on there from
Speaker 1: San Berdino. What was that McDonald's come from San Bernardino.
Speaker 1: I know that was just random San Bernardino. I mean
Speaker 1: San Bernardino is like huge. It's probably be the fifteenth
Speaker 1: largest state in the country physically by itself. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: it was a state is big. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're trying. I do, like and like, you see,
Speaker 1: the same thing happened with eastern and western Oregon, Like
Speaker 1: part of Oregon wanted to succeed and become the state
Speaker 1: of Idaho. Mm hm. And you could see that even
Speaker 1: like when I was in Oregon doing the cannabis thing,
Speaker 1: the opt out counties that didn't want to participate in
Speaker 1: legal cannabis were all on the eastern side and the
Speaker 1: western side were all into cannabis. They're just have two
Speaker 1: different perspectives mm hmm. So now so many people that
Speaker 1: even the states don't even have alignment. True true, And
Speaker 1: and you know that's probably more of an issue in
Speaker 1: the West when the where the states are really big.
Speaker 1: I assume it's probably more alignment. If you were dealing
Speaker 1: with states through the size of Vermont, you know, or
Speaker 1: like Wyoming is big, but there's like nine people there,
Speaker 1: eight of them think the same. Mm hm. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: So where does the FED sitting all of this immigration talk,
Speaker 1: the federal government or the Federal Reserve? The federal government,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Supreme Court basically said during the Obama
Speaker 1: administration that they have full authority that the question constitutionally
Speaker 1: is does the executive branch have the right? You know
Speaker 1: what the legislature passes the law, the executive branch is
Speaker 1: supposed to figure out how to enforce it. Oh, that
Speaker 1: means you have to enforce it. Figuring out how to
Speaker 1: enforce it isn't figuring out if you enforce it. It's
Speaker 1: it's how to enforce it. Yeah, So the current administration
Speaker 1: is a very strong constitutional case to be made that
Speaker 1: there like like impeachably unconstitutional. But they're not not they're
Speaker 1: not enforcing they're they're they're redefining policy and conflict with
Speaker 1: the actual law. M hm. And it's it's a ton
Speaker 1: of word legal games. I don't even know if it's
Speaker 1: that they're just saying here's the law, and the all
Speaker 1: imitate on the time that they have to go out
Speaker 1: in figure out how to apply laws. Is there a
Speaker 1: certain amount of time? I know, it's all the supposed
Speaker 1: to be faith Yeah, you know. I mean the instant
Speaker 1: that they came in is whatever, we're gonna stop building
Speaker 1: the wall, and we're gonna basically say, m you know,
Speaker 1: we're having a no what was it. There's catching release
Speaker 1: or you can have apprehend and uh XP and and
Speaker 1: deport or whatever else. They just said, just come just
Speaker 1: come on. We're not going to force it, so anything's open.
Speaker 1: We're not our border patrol, federal agents are not going
Speaker 1: to be in the business of rounding people up as
Speaker 1: they enter, detaining them and sending them back. So they said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna gather the people who want to be gathered.
Speaker 1: We're going to they're gonna claim asylum, and then that
Speaker 1: we're gonna process them out with a court date that
Speaker 1: they're never gonna go to and as long as they
Speaker 1: have their court debt date paper, they can just be
Speaker 1: here and definitely and that's not the immigration policy, because
Speaker 1: our immigration policy is not just come here and get
Speaker 1: a piece of paper and stay pending a court date
Speaker 1: that it's never gonna happen. You know what's weird. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me if this is wrong. It feels like the
Speaker 1: middle class will be affected the most by this negatively,
Speaker 1: and the lower class will be the most the middle class. Second,
Speaker 1: I think the middle class the most, and I think
Speaker 1: the wealthy will benefit from it the most. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: probably pretty fair. Yeah, I mean, because once you poor,
Speaker 1: you just poor. There's nothing the lowest class. You know,
Speaker 1: you you was gonna get a bad education before they can.
Speaker 1: You don't get a bad education when they come. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get the same pretty much mine on the county price.
Speaker 1: And it's always gonna be bad for you. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: when two things that I think, like you're you know,
Speaker 1: we'll use all SAMs is a great case study for
Speaker 1: this that could negatively impact l A. If you're poor
Speaker 1: and black in Los Angeles and your school is not
Speaker 1: great and then it becomes significantly more crowded and bilingual,
Speaker 1: it's gonna your qualite education is gonna go down. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be out quickly. Poor quality of education. Right, it
Speaker 1: was poor or it's been probably poor since the late seventies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, But like I mean, has it gotten worse? Sure,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying it was never quality to begin with it.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been quality probably since the fifties and the sixties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really even for California probably, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I know, like in other cities
Speaker 1: like New York, it was very good quality public education
Speaker 1: up until the sixties. So what's the what's the endplay?
Speaker 1: Is it really about you know, people being humane? Like
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the cover up, Like, oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: will we owe human beings an opportunity? Which is weird
Speaker 1: because there's people here that don't have I guess they
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to exist in poverty, and that's what
Speaker 1: they're saying. What's the endgame of allowing what's the end
Speaker 1: game of being a proponent of this? Ah, we saw
Speaker 1: that play out last year. That the thing that everyone
Speaker 1: wants to talk about, the Santists and Texas guy sending
Speaker 1: immigrants up north. Well, the federal government has been sending
Speaker 1: quietly plans and busses of illegal environs all over the
Speaker 1: country and largely into swing counties in red states. So
Speaker 1: the end of game, the beneficiaries of yet another like
Speaker 1: social engineering project, so to speak, would be that you
Speaker 1: can strategically redefine the body politics from a voter standpoint
Speaker 1: in your favor. So there's a political benefit for that.
Speaker 1: There's some maybe some kickback that might suggest it might
Speaker 1: not quite go so well as the people are planning
Speaker 1: it like this is going. That doesn't seem like the
Speaker 1: benefit because eventually it is not going to meet that.
Speaker 1: But what I'm asking is who would be well, that's
Speaker 1: a big benefit because it can really, it can really
Speaker 1: have a huge impact. Oh yeah, voting. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: eventually is going to rule you out, whoever the proponent
Speaker 1: is of it. Possibly, I think that could be. Okay,
Speaker 1: here you go the issue and a lot of these
Speaker 1: countries right there, we're talking about right the southern part
Speaker 1: of Italy, Mexico, all right, is in the China, there's
Speaker 1: a wealthy class. And there's what made America great to me,
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I'm jumping thoughts, but it's the same concept.
Speaker 1: What made America great to me is it's middle class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's ability to assent one of the greatest mass
Speaker 1: number of middle classes in all of the world. Japan
Speaker 1: has a good middle class, America has a great middle class.
Speaker 1: But the countries were talking about, right, Mexico, Um, Italy,
Speaker 1: especially South Italy is going to be wealthy poor. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really small amount of middle class people.
Speaker 1: And that's when your country is a ship show. Is
Speaker 1: that fair to say? Certainly? And so you're saying the
Speaker 1: tax you know, to to try to keep up with
Speaker 1: this budget, right, which is almost virtually impossible. So it's
Speaker 1: inflating the dollar, right, and we have to pass out
Speaker 1: more dollars to to to do by all of these
Speaker 1: people because we're not controlling the law of how people
Speaker 1: have to come in and what they have to do
Speaker 1: to to get the to get the assistance needed like
Speaker 1: to survive. Um, the middle class people will feel the
Speaker 1: worst part of the taxes. Yeah, they'll feel the worst
Speaker 1: part of it, and they'll feel in two ways. A
Speaker 1: lot a lot of people look at it like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they won't pay as much tax as like some rich
Speaker 1: guy or some business. But if you don't pay for
Speaker 1: it in taxes directly, you pay for on the back
Speaker 1: side of inflation, or you pay for it in the
Speaker 1: absence of opportunities from growth. Because those big companies, wealthier
Speaker 1: investors don't have the extra don't have that much extra
Speaker 1: money to to build and they're gonna pay list. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so where they hire some money to pay completely less totally, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get undercut a lot. And you see that like my like,
Speaker 1: are we on okay now? Um, Like my cousin and
Speaker 1: my uncle are driving mixer trucks in Nebraska. They've been
Speaker 1: in North Dakota and all in that part of the
Speaker 1: country doing contract work. Dad's got a house in Idaho's
Speaker 1: he kind of starts to retire and getting them into
Speaker 1: fishing more. And you see, like there's whenever there's a development,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. Even shoot, even when I was in
Speaker 1: New Orleans last year moving out here, there there was
Speaker 1: so many Hondurans at the hotel I was staying out
Speaker 1: on this on the outside of New Orleans that there
Speaker 1: was a Honduran restaurant temporary Honduran restaurant opened next door,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, yeah, they're they're gonna come up.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be construction contracts and they fill that stuff
Speaker 1: for cheap, you know, fifty cents on the dollar. So
Speaker 1: there is an advantage and cost for a lot of
Speaker 1: big companies. And there's there's a political advantage because even
Speaker 1: when when stuff is in disarray and there's stratified poverty,
Speaker 1: and political power reigns in that type of an environment
Speaker 1: because you have more dependence than independence. Good looking out
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