WEBVTT - Conversations About Illegal Immigration 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.520 Sillers podcast with your host. Now, funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:19.680 low glasses, Malone. What's happening today down in Florida? The 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.560 only one fucked up thing, feel me? And fucking Florida 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:30.720 is fucking storms. I'll take those. I'll take those. That's 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.480 worth it. The taxes alone is worth it. Oh yeah, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.760 I mean you forget I lost every possession I ever 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.519 owned in the fire in the Western US. So two times. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.160 How do you feel about rhand des sentis man? Those 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:54.440 fantastic It's guy, that's my man. That's my man right there. Okay, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.680 So is it the fact that California is liberal that 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.880 they tend to make the proud white man the villain? Ore? 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.119 Is it because history shows that, Like I noticed, how 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.720 the media covers Ryan de Santis in California is totally 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:15.520 different than I would imagine people in Florida phil about him. Totally. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:21.000 I mean, Rhonda Santis is basically the champion for the 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:28.160 anti you know, machine movement. I mean he was. He 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:33.759 was anti COVID lockdowns, he was anti vaccine mandates. He's 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.680 anti I mean this case. He's on the news because 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:44.520 he's sending along with the governor of Texas, you know, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:49.400 open border illegal immigrant residents up to places where the 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.640 people who vote for all of them, you know, live, 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.680 which has led to some great sound by It's including 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.360 maybe the mayor of d C or Chicago, somebody up 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.600 there saying, oh, it's a tremendous strain on our resources. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.400 We don't we're not equipped for this, like the border 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.799 towns are what border town is equipped for that, it 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.160 is Laredo equipped to take on people in a in 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.160 a month. I am not going to lie. I find 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:31.360 that ship hilarious. Else it's captivating the fucking the fucking 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:36.480 governor of Texas and the governor of fucking Florida taking 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:44.400 people that illegally enter the country in busses and planes 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.240 and ship and flying them and driving them to the 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:54.320 states that act like they are pro you know that 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.000 they are pro uh prop borders. It's it's easy to 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.560 be pro open borders and massach us. It's I'm a 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.720 little bit you're afraid of a bunch of Canadians coming 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:10.400 down with all their syrup and weird accents. No Canada 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.160 border is so tight they like you is not crossing 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.000 over this ship Jesus, dude, it's crazy. I talked to 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:21.920 two Cuban guys in an eight day period who both 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:27.840 had family here that wired them ten thousand dollars each 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.440 so they could go from Cuba to Nicaragua, through Honduras, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.560 through Guatemala to link up with a cartel team at 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.280 the border of Mexico and gaut and Mexico and Guatemala. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.800 And they got trafficked by a cartel team all the 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:46.480 way to the San Diego Tijuana porta entry, both of them, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.240 one in June, one in August. Both of them went 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.960 through San Diego all the way to San Francisco, where 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.880 they were able to have a flight flight from San 0:03:54.920 --> 0:04:01.400 Francisco to Florida, same exact track, same exact um trafficking 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.200 apparatus through Mexico and they and they had nothing bad 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.240 to say about Nicaragua, Honduras and Guatemala and everything bad 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.360 to say about Mexico. They said, every rumor you here 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:16.720 is true times ten. Because I asked on the second guy, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.240 I'm like, I'm just gonna ask. These guys are cool 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.160 because they were just trying to learn English, so so 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.880 like there's certain words that they don't know, like the 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.800 little serious. I'm like, well, like the NEOs, They're like, yeah, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.440 oh you know Spanish. I don't know Spanish. I know 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.000 a few words. Yeah, and they were like, oh, Mexico 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.240 is like um, and they're like trying to around like 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:38.200 Poro Bardio like so they do that. But I was like, 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.159 let me, are they really are they really like raping 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.359 these girls all over the place and they go, oh yeah. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:50.719 I'm like what I would like that. I don't want 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:55.560 to be that, you know what. I yeah. They was 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.920 like score down. Um. He didn't say like he was 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.960 the guy is being moved up. To be clear, aren't 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.080 the ones doing it? It's the guys. It's like cattle 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.480 hurters like you have ever seen the movie See Slickers. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.800 It's it's like it'd be like the old cowboy guy, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:16.119 but it's they're not moving cattle. They moving people. Mm hmmm. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.320 Why aren't they dropping off the bus filled with people 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.599 to California. They are. California just doesn't complain about it. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.120 I mean like, if you go to parts of the 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.200 Central Valley and like the west Lake District and spots 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.680 like that, it's just packed out with people. But California 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.240 is content to let them be there and just take 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.320 the federal funding as they can get it. Mm hm, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.840 who is the governor of Texas? For guys, the guy 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.000 in the wheelchair? I forgot his name. I really like, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.880 that's it hilarious. You know what's funny? Policies politics hasn't 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.520 been this entertaining in a long time, ever since Trump 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.160 came and then since it's been in there taining it 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:06.240 has been I like how I mean, like God, Like, 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.760 you could go to a certain school district in California 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.680 that have more illegal residents within the you know, the 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.720 the zip code of the school district, and you get 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.400 less than that, and some of these things they declared 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.000 a state of emergency, like to city in New York, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:23.880 which has ten million people, the clear state of emergency. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.920 Funny because I've seen that the earlier news report you're 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.000 talk about. It was like, yeah, it's all these people 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.120 is going against all and that we don't have enough resources. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.160 And I was thinking to myself, like, yeah, you are 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.520 a country. That's okay, So here here's a better question. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.719 Here's a better question. Okay, Now I'm not quite sure 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.120 this is more of your expertise, because so I'm I'm 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.719 gonna speaking just from what I knew or what I've heard. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.279 So the whole idea of America, right was built on 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.239 to some level of illegal immigration, right, Like, that's part 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.680 of the idea, person, I mean, if you want to 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.960 consider it depends on how you define boundaries, like people 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.560 coming from the Old Country coming through the eastern border 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:13.440 of the United States. True, that was really only true 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.360 for a small period of time, and the broader scope 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.520 because by the early twentieth century, like once like the 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.120 Italians and the Southern Medicrans started coming through. They came 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:27.560 through in big, big, big numbers, illegally at first, and 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.520 then they cut it off pretty quick. That that's when 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.480 they established the laws. We had to come through Ellis 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.960 Island and register, and there was a cap and a 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.520 quota cap. There's been for over a hundred years. M 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.040 there's been a quota cap for like over a hundred years, 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.960 I believe, of how many people that should be able 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.440 to come from the Old Country to this, yeah, like 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.880 per country, and the total and how the total number 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.560 we allow and will be divvied up in that kind 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:57.120 of thing. Mm hmmm. So is it the model that 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.760 America created to build his country? Is it not sustainable. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:09.000 It depends. I mean, like you scale matters, you know, Um, 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:13.440 there's to me the real Like if you ask my 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.680 personal opinion, the issue isn't the people. The issue is 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.960 There's also been a lot of policy changes along the 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.960 way with various things like if you if you was 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.520 asked me, do you want fifty million illegal umorists moving here? Sure? 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.800 But everybody is now entitled to all these various government 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:34.679 programs that cost money. So in eighteen ninety if Billy 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:40.800 Oh O'Malley or whoever from Ireland, yeah, if he came 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.520 through where a German guy came through, they didn't get dick. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.240 They just got to be here, you know, which is true? 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.400 I heard, I heard a lot of people are a 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.760 lot of people from the Old Country got land at 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.800 a certain time there was land rushes and stuff like that, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:58.480 but a lot of people died on the land and 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.320 died on their way trying to get there. You know. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.320 So just because like if you dumped me out in 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.680 the middle of South Dakota with ten acres, I'm gonna die. Sure, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.000 because you don't know how to do all of this 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.760 stuff that needs to be done to build to land. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.040 And even if I knew if you just dumped me 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.480 off their flat ass broke, I'm not gonna be able 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.240 to have the means to do it, you know. Like 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.760 like my great grandparents from southern Italy. They were teenagers 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.000 there I think we're fourteen fifteen. Their families put them 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.560 on a boat and said see it by themselves, and 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.400 they met each other on the boat and got married. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:37.000 Um Reggio, Calabria and Sicily like a small town outside 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:41.320 of Palermo. So like the mafia towns. Why do people 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.880 Why would somebody from Sicily send somebody to America? Oh, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.719 I mean if you look at at the time, what 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.320 a ship show it'll well. I mean that's like the 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.880 poor region of Italy. But Italy was such it was, Yeah, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.800 it was such a dilapidated mess. I think of how 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:02.080 dilapidated a Messa country has to be to pursue Mussolini. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:11.839 Those aren't the best of times, No sailors, Gail, my boy, Peter, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.760 we're in here talking that talk. So DESI for the 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.360 desight for the mentally weak. So if you're mentally weak, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.439 if you don't have enough fortitude to think, if you 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.640 don't have time to think, if you're watching your children. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.280 If you getting caught up in sports of the New 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.200 Dahmer program on Netflix, this might be a little bit 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:36.280 too much for you. So can I stay yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:44.080 So this is one of those conversations. Um okay. So 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.800 Italy at that point had to be a ship show, right, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:54.199 most European countries total ship show. Okay, So the first 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.600 let's let's let's let's let's let's back back a little 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.960 bit right to the beginning of this motherfucker right too, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.480 as people start coming over here, which is the four hundreds, right, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.840 four hundred, fifteen hundreds, I think there was trace in 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.880 the fifteen in the sixteen it was you know, an 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:15.080 accelerating scale, right. So the first people that came to 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.679 establish I think Plymouth Rock was in the fifteen hundreds, 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.400 and that was like the first person on continental United States. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.640 You said, oh, it's like Plymouth Rock and like the 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.320 Pilgrims that was like fifteen hundreds. That was like you know, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.640 first white phone, yeah, or the earliest white phone. Yeah. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.480 In theory. Okay, so when they illegally immigrated to this, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.760 I'm sure that the native people at law. So when 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:54.520 they illegally immigrated here, right. Um. A lot of the 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.559 people that came here, right, came because they were under Okay, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.520 now this is again this is loose because I'm aware 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:08.880 of history, but I'm really and there's I'm conus of 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.720 how I accept how people tell me stories. I know 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.920 the winners, like when I look at it, like the 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.000 n w A movie. I'm really conscious of how the 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.640 story is told because the winners are telling the story. Yeah, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.520 gang Cub being the winners. Um, just like America. So 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:28.160 throughout you know, history classes, I've always been conscious like, okay, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.640 the winners are telling the story. So I always listened 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.320 to both sides of the stories as much as I 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.000 can get and start trying to figure out in the 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.600 middle which actually makes sense. So the rule in England 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:46.240 was super oppressive at the time, just to stop. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.840 it's pretty like they was enslaving you but you couldn't 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.400 get ahead. Yeah yeah, I mean like Europe has always been. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.400 And we talked about that, like I looked up at death. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.640 I remember of several episodes back talked about um serfdom 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.520 and the feudal system. Remember the definition of it was 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.840 you had a lord who owned the land. This is 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.560 such this. This is some slick ass white people ship here. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.840 This definition is good. This is Clintonian. This is Bill 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:22.440 Clinton ducking that blowjob type slick Biden and the printedtor 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:29.720 super predators. Uha. It was the land is owned by 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:35.080 the lord, and the people are owned by the land. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:41.200 The people are the property of the land. So it 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.160 wasn't I own the people, it was I own the 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.960 land and the people there are the property of the land. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:54.600 So if you're staying here your mind not technically yes, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.760 but yes, absolute degree of street type degree. Okay, So 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.079 you saw that in the beginning of that was playing 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.720 out pretty decently in the beginning of the movie Braveheart 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.679 where the lord comes and knocks down the guy's wife 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.920 and this is my girl. Oh this you're what? No, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:17.079 she's my I on this land and yeah, you're my subject. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.000 That was ill. So I can see why England got 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:25.360 mad because it was like, oh you motherfucker, that was sup. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.120 The Irish people hard so moving forward, Um, so they 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.480 were leaving so they said, okay, So then that that 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:41.760 means in theory they had to escape the rule. I'm 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.240 not sure how much it was like Cuba, like escaping Cuba, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.920 not a slave escaping a plantation, right, not a slave. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.960 And this is also like slightly post Magna carta. So 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.920 you're in a bit of a transitional period. It's it's 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.720 not like the year thousand, it's like the year fifteen hundred. 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.280 So it's you're escaping like religious persecution and a shitty 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.960 economy and a lot of stuff like anything. Any yeah, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.680 reasonable sense of oppression. Yeah, and but yeah, but like 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:19.120 when you look at you were free to leave. You 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.560 just couldn't really pull it off very easily. It's not 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.560 like Cuba or they don't want you to leave, like, 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.360 but you can't leave, yeah, which is why I said 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:33.400 escape lightly, not escape, but escaped lightly. You you get 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.000 on this boat to America, whatever they charge you, you're 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.160 gonna come to this free land. You know, you come 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.960 into this land. And then when you get to this land, right, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:49.600 it's still so underdeveloped, right, so they still have the 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:57.920 power to tax you from over there. Yes, yes, so 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:02.080 like you were here, and that was largely because I 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.240 mean if you look at and and here's a couple 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.040 of things that I here discussed, like the idea that oh, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:13.800 if European columnists didn't take over North America, then these 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.520 people from Central America could move up to North America 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:22.200 and whatever else anyway, which is not true. Um, the 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:27.440 reason why Spain was able to conquered the Aztecs like 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:32.400 Aztec hegemony was enormous, you know. I mean they had 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.760 taken over like half of North America. They had every 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.320 advantage in numbers and force and whatever you could think of. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:48.920 England gets a hard deal France, Spain did the exact 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:53.520 same thing. And and and the Dutch that the big 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:58.600 footprint England drove them out. New York was New Amsterdam 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.520 before it was New York. Oh was New Incident. And 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.439 the Ducks don't get enough slander for being a huge 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.399 central part of the slave trade because if you start talking, 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.520 they start dancing in those wooden clocks and they just 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.560 drowned your right on out, or they or they fly 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.639 you to the red light district and have the prostitutes 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.919 in the weed problems. Brother, for sure, we forget that 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:23.840 we were picking you up from Africa and sell you 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.280 all over to the Western region. And they're also smart 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.399 because their country kind of has two names. Are they 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.920 the Netherlands? Are they Holland? If it's good news, they're 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.399 the Netherlands. If it's bad news, they're Holland. Fuck it, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.280 it's pretty slick. I mean, I'm in, I'm in. So 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:43.439 those European countries, I like to call them Western, the 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.960 west coast of Europe. Yeah, you know, to sub degree, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:55.720 were like these super aggressive you know. Uh, I'm trying. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:01.080 They were the maritime economies, so they were tres economies, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.840 were heavily involved with oceanic trade, and that led to 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:10.240 them expanding on the reach of their economics capacity. Know 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.600 that New York was originally New Amsterdam, but most people 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.159 don't realize New York is not one word. It's the 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.479 New York England. It's York England. Yeah, maybe like New 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:26.800 Yorkshire or something. You know, it's York England, New York England. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.880 So it's the New York. Uh. England is the New England. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:37.320 Uh Hampshire or Hampshire is Hampshire England. So like Edward, 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.280 they want to rename it, like, well, this is the 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:45.280 better version of York. Yeah, I'm not sure Albuquerque is 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.160 a better version of Mexico, though I think New Mexico 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:54.680 some marketing cree card Monty there. They for sure did 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.600 not get that right. But um, and you kind of 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.399 saw the same thing play out with like the the 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.879 French and Indian wars that you saw with like Spain 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.240 and the Aztecs. I mean, the Aztecs were brutalizing like 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.159 tons of tribes, and they were pretty arcane in the 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.080 way that they would go about that they would conquer 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.520 and sacrifice people. So in Spain and a very limited 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.240 force rolled up and said, hey, we kind of have 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.960 enough to like funk with these guys. You want to 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.000 get rid of these Aztecs. And they're like, yeah, we're 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.800 tired of getting burned at the steak and our heads 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.280 lopped off shore. So they united tons of tribes to 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.880 work with them to fight against the Aztecs. And Aztecs 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.920 are pretty brutal, so it wasn't yeah so easy. As 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.600 like Indian nations were established, they fought each other. You 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.040 couldn't sure, I mean any any time those nations. They 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.720 don't matter whether the exact same or completely different, they're 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:56.000 going to find people just I mean, whether you believe 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.840 in and and you know, if you're into the Bible, 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:04.200 Adam and Eve kids were squabbling and somebody got knocked off. Yeah, 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:08.960 human beings if it's too. They're gonna fight, have to 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.720 escape people one, he's going to fight itself. Yeah, okay, 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:18.119 so now so now so now they're illegally immigrating into 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:24.080 this new land, right and it's people here establishing in 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.600 theory the same thing that was established in England ahead 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:35.200 of time. Um, railroad systems. Oh yeah, yeah, they're bringing 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.560 Western technology, all the same things that create the wealth. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:44.520 Mhm um. So they illegally immigrated. So England is the 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:50.639 first group of Western European West coast European folks that 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.400 came to America at at at at a high pain, 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.280 not not completely because I think Spain Christopher Columbus, he 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.600 gets a lot of slacking. I think, right, no, he's 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.600 he's he He was Italian, but Italy didn't want to 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.800 front of the money, so Spain started fronting Italian seafarers 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:14.800 like Magellan and Columbus and guys like that. Okay, so 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.560 who is the first? Who was the first mass grove 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.840 of people coming to the New Land? Do we know 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.880 that to be true? It was really it was all 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.720 those countries, um, because I noticed the English were super 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:33.920 prejudiced to a lot of Irish people, initially Italian people Initially, 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.560 I don't think the French ever came and grows. Yeah 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.760 they did, they did. I mean I think they were 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.359 around the first time when everybody was coming to discover 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.200 because I know the French has some kind of locked on. 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.800 French Canada had Louisiana. They had that, but they also 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.639 had French Canada. Yeah, so so the top part of 0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:00.399 where we're at. But outside of Louisiana, I guess they 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.040 did come and grow. That's why they was able to. 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.000 They were both because they had Haiti, they had a 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.680 lot of those islands, Martinique, all those places in the Caribbean. 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.560 They had New Orleans and all that. But they also 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:13.760 I think that happened probably be a little bit later 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:15.400 or man, I don't know, I'm not sure. Don't quote 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:16.479 me on that, don't qute me on that. But they 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:22.800 also they were you know, um, you know, like like Montreal. 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.080 I mean that's that whole region French Canada has been 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.800 there since. I think like, yeah, yeah, my homeboys, a 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:32.399 lot of my homeboys beak frieze. A lot of the 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:36.919 boxers that are life in Canada speak freeze. Um. Did 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:41.720 the Spanish ever come in huge grows illegally yeah, I 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.520 know that, like down here, they're like, who's the because 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:50.359 Pons de Leon came up they they went down they 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.800 were they were like like Ponce de Leon in Florida. 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.679 There's still you know, even like in Jamaica, like Spanish Town, Utos, 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.960 Riosty had all those islands. They came to Mexico with 0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:59.840 the Catholics and the Conkys to doors and then they 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:03.000 were all through South America, Central America. They went that way, 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:07.960 and then Portugal went and grabbed Brazil. Okay, so yeah, 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:09.720 I know they went down further. For sure, they went 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.400 to the southern part of the western parts of the land. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.760 What I'm saying, so in in America they came for sure, 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.919 they had to be in Florida. That's true. They had 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:25.360 to be in Florida if they came from that way. Um, 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.040 so they came from Florida. Okay, that makes sense. So 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.520 then how did England I feel like it had ownership 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.200 over the illegal immigrants that came here from England when 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.639 it was so it had to be they had to 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.920 be the most because they were super oppressive. I heard 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.399 the English people who I read the English people were 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:47.360 super oppressive over Irish and Italian people that were here 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:53.639 in like the hundreds or sixteen seventeen, even up to 0:23:53.840 --> 0:24:00.080 low key to the eighteen hundreds, the average English and 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.120 that was in America. I heard Irish people in Italian 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:07.240 people got the stick. Yeah, Irish people were not looked 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.960 at very well. Italians were looked at worse. I mean 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.440 it was Italians were kind of like the like what 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.720 you see now with black people at like bar districts. 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.840 I know for sure they would call them Irish niggers. Yeah, 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520 like the Patti wagon was a big wagon that they 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.639 would pull up to Irish bars and rest all the 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:31.040 guys when they were leaving drunk. Yeah. But I remember 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:35.600 watching Gangs of New York. I remember watching Gangs in 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.240 New York and how oppressive they were in that movie. 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.920 So I've read it, you know, for years, and then 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.080 they had a film talking about it. And those people 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.159 were coming to the US. They weren't coming to like 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:50.560 like the established US. They weren't really coming in in 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:54.880 the colonial establishment period. So it's a couple hundred year distinction. Yeah, 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:59.080 this is early. Yeah, but I know that to some degree, 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.040 the at least immigrants from English had to feel the 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.560 illegal immigrants from England had to have some kind of 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.880 feel like they had claim over this. Yeah, they did, 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.800 I mean, and I think that they felt that way 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:16.600 because you would get essentially, if not for any of 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.720 the reason, it was a it was an area that 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:24.640 was being fought for. So you had English people who 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.679 were there who had good relationships with the old country 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.879 to some degree, and there'd be French people there, and 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:34.840 then the French would try to probably or Dutch or 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.800 whoever else would try to you know, push them over, 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.000 and the next thing you know, there would be a 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.600 fight for territory and the English. One. English were pretty 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.320 prolific militarily at that time, and they just don't even 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.720 the rejects, the legal immigrants that came here because to 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.840 some degree they had to have some kind of business 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:58.280 going with England. Still, there was there was a time 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:05.080 lapse between Revolutionary War seventeen seventy, right, Yeah, but there 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.959 was like between like the early like Pilgrims, I think 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.639 we're kind of almost like quakery type of people. But 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:20.480