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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Bett MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty.

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Speaker 1: So last week the regular season is on tap and

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Speaker 1: as the lines, as you might expect, are all over

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Speaker 1: the place, but with me to break it all down

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Speaker 1: is Ian Hartitz, NFL analysts for Rotal World. You can

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Speaker 1: find them on Twitter at Iheartit's Ian. Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, Man, it's going good.

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Speaker 4: I was like Week seventeen, especially from just a DFS

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Speaker 4: and gambling perspective, because you know, it's one of those

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Speaker 4: weeks where if you really grind your research, you know,

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Speaker 4: find out what teams are doing with their starters.

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Speaker 3: I can get more of an edge of normal. So

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Speaker 3: we'll see what we can do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely more than any other week. I feel like

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Speaker 1: sports betters need to be really really focused on the

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Speaker 1: lines because when news comes out, the lines that we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about before we started recording can shift

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Speaker 1: in an instant. We've already seen it Monday, right, so

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Speaker 1: the lines really just books mostly reopened on Sunday already

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Speaker 1: We're seeing shifts of three, four or five points in

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Speaker 1: some places, so you definitely want to be on it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, you do a lot

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Speaker 1: of fantasy work. I do a lot of fantasy work.

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Speaker 1: I really like this time of the year because like

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen, you've still got dfs and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: But with the playoffs, we can not only just enjoy

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Speaker 1: football for what it is, but also focus on it

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Speaker 1: from a more sports betting perspective and not from how

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Speaker 1: many people are going to be mad at me for

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Speaker 1: telling them that they could start Nick Chubble, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's what I do to, you know, focus on some

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Speaker 4: of those individual match up, specially more when the playoffs come,

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Speaker 4: and you know, we can really make ourselves go crazy.

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Speaker 4: I remember last year in particular, it was like seemed

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Speaker 4: like every single week I convince myself that this was

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Speaker 4: when the Patriots were finally going down because of X,

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Speaker 4: Y and Z.

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Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes that's just the way I cook

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Speaker 3: the crumbles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll be saying that again next year

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Speaker 1: after they win another Super Bowl. This year, come on, dude,

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Speaker 1: I am a Jets fan living in New England, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much my nightmare.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's start, really, I mean, we.

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Speaker 1: Can talk about the Patriots, but let's start with the

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Speaker 1: one game that every sports better. It's really just every

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Speaker 1: football fan, frankly in America is really dying to see

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Speaker 1: the Browns at the Bengals, brown playing two and a

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Speaker 1: half with the total of forty five. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I really this is why there is sports betting, because

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Speaker 1: otherwise there would be nobody outside of the state of

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Speaker 1: Ohio watching this game. But the Browns, they put up

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Speaker 1: a fight against the Ravens in the beginning. You know,

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Speaker 1: it looks like they might actually hold Lamar Jackson in check,

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Speaker 1: especially since they won that first game. But really, in

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Speaker 1: the end they are just no match. But then they're

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Speaker 1: completely dysfunctional. The Bengals almost draw the inside straight against

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins for that miraculous comeback, they can't make it happen.

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Speaker 1: They are now as short of the top pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft, so who knows where their head is at.

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Speaker 1: But how do you feel here anything? With the Browns

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Speaker 1: lank two and a half and the total at forty five?

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Speaker 3: Real quick, how amazing was that Bengals Dolphins game?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Like you talk about someone of the best games ever

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Speaker 1: Really really entertaining, and you had that one and the

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Speaker 2: These terrible games that everybody was loving.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean, by the way, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what has changed, but all of a sudden, teams

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that nowhere At first half of the season,

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Speaker 1: there was just because they changed the rules so you

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Speaker 2: You've just got to be where you are. So they

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Speaker 1: Right, we need two on side kicks. Yeah we could

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Speaker 1: do that, no problem. So yeah, it is weird, but

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Speaker 4: For sure, for sure, And I think that's you know,

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Speaker 4: just looking at this game, it's not a team has

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Speaker 4: anything to play for. With that said, we've at least

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Speaker 4: seen more glimpses from this Browns team, especially in the

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Speaker 4: they came back and they were able to make that

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Speaker 4: Dolphins game a pretty entertaining, contested contest. But with that said,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Brown's the only team in this game

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Speaker 3: So I'm seeing the lines right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, Cleveland only minus two and a half and

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Speaker 4: I think I'm I think, I'm I'm down to lay

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Speaker 4: I think in the second half a season. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: and the big issue for the Browns first time they

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Speaker 4: I'm not positive. We'll see what injury reports say later

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Speaker 4: in a week. But if William Jackson's out, like that's

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Speaker 4: one of the last remaining two difference makers on that

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Speaker 4: and then more talented offense.

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Speaker 3: How successful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it under a field goal.

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Speaker 1: It opened at a field goal, so the fact that

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I never feel good about backing the Browns, right,

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Speaker 1: and it's not about their talent. I mean, you know again,

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Speaker 1: They were by far the most bet Super Bowl winner

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Speaker 1: lot of that is just public perception rather than whether

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Speaker 1: I feel dirty because you don't want to back the

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Speaker 4: I think, real quick, I think we got this. We're

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Speaker 4: not betting on the Browns, We're betting against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: That will definitely make me feel better when the Bengals

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Speaker 4: So I think as long as they have something to

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Speaker 4: to be playing Patrick Mahomes and Tyre kill and all

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Speaker 4: good portion, which one of the spreads, you know, fairly modest.

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Speaker 4: I think seven and a half, that's fine. That's all

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Speaker 4: fighting for their playoff lives. Just to back up here,

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with this level of a you know, playoff

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Speaker 3: When they just blew out the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: I that this could still at least be a pretty

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Speaker 4: It just has not been a great year at all

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Speaker 4: for Rivers. In fact, it's been a second War season

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Speaker 4: all on Fill, but with that said, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just could soon be his last swan song, if

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Speaker 4: it's not already. I think in this spot, the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: are clearly the better team. I think lost in a

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Speaker 4: lot of this Ravens hype recently is that the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: might have found themselves a defense man since the week

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Speaker 4: twelve by you know, they've were able to beat the

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Speaker 4: Pats in Foxborough and other than that, they just shut

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Speaker 4: down everyone, only thirty one points total allowed in December.

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Speaker 4: I know we're used to Patrick Mahomes having an outscore everybody,

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Speaker 4: and I think they're still capable of doing that, especially

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Speaker 4: we've seen this offense finally get healthy in recent weeks,

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Speaker 4: but the defense all of a sudden isn't quite the

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Speaker 4: same pushover. So, like I was on a pop last week,

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Speaker 4: man and I had to give a bold take for

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Speaker 4: the rest of the way, and I think the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: even take down Lamar Jackson and Coast. So I think

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Speaker 4: this will definitely be a good first start to get

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Speaker 4: that one.

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Speaker 2: I like it. That is bold, but I think there

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Speaker 2: is one team that can do it.

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Speaker 1: It is then, because yeah, they are clicking on all cylinders,

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Speaker 1: not just offensively but also defensively. Here. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: you're laying more than the touchdown. It's always a little

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Speaker 1: nerve wracking. But in the end, we've seen Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: you know, although the classic Philip Rivers is you know,

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Speaker 1: this point, I just whatever is going on with him?

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Speaker 2: It's been odd.

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Speaker 1: Not only of course is he playing terribly, but the

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to my Jets at the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Bills here are laying one with a total of thirty six.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you that they've looked better recently. They've

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Speaker 4: Now they've the wins I've come against Giants, Redskins, Raiders,

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Speaker 3: So not the most impressive victories.

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Speaker 4: But what that said, man, Like, you know, you see

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Speaker 4: based on what we've seen from them, Buffalo being at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can totally see that. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: I think I'd probably lean towards the Jets. I think

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Speaker 4: So I'm the thinly veiled Afots.

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Speaker 1: You got well to be fair man. I went to

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Speaker 1: That does not bode well for their offense. It's going

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Speaker 1: So Saints laying a big number on the road here

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's so they could be forcing to do. I mean

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Speaker 4: Hey man, it's the fact that McCaffrey has done what

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Speaker 4: I don't think nothing in this offense over the past

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Speaker 3: They look competitive at times.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they still even though their run defense is

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the Panthers and the Jaguars. If

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Speaker 4: you want to make money in DFS, you just play

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Speaker 4: whatever running backs are going against those guys. I mean,

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Speaker 4: not even close. Shaq Thompson's banged up. It's not all

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Speaker 3: So I think the Saints probably roll here.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen's a lot like I probably wouldn't put a ton

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Speaker 3: So I do like Saints minus thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am probably going to stay away from this game,

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Speaker 2: I just can't take that many points, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean these games right where there's only one other

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Speaker 1: This one it's just a game where I can't I'm

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Speaker 1: It's one of these things where I look at them

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Bears and the Vikings. Vikings

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Speaker 1: laying seven with the total at forty one and a half.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this before Monday Night football, so we don't

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is not gonna play tonight. Probably Alexander Madison

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Speaker 2: Mis Trubisky has certainly disappointed, you know, especially our good

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a little difficult to analyze this one,

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Speaker 4: Half, I do agree the Vikings do seem like a

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Speaker 3: Man, this bears offense.

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Speaker 4: It really seemed like they were starting to gel and

437
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Speaker 4: I know the matchups were nothing, which is why we

438
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Speaker 4: got to be careful, you know when really evaluating good

439
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Speaker 4: three game stretches. But played really well against the Giants, Lions,

440
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Speaker 4: and especially Cowboys. Theybe just get these back to back

441
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Speaker 4: duds against the Packers and Chiefs. There are impossible, trust men.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with you. It's like I want to

443
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Speaker 4: take the Bears plus seven. I still think their defense

444
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Speaker 4: is very solid. The biggest problem with the defense, they've

445
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Speaker 4: had some injuries, like Keem Hicks most notably, although he's

446
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Speaker 4: been backed the last few weeks.

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Speaker 3: But their defense isn't the problem.

448
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Speaker 4: The problem is the offense can't keep their defense off

449
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Speaker 4: the field for even a little bit. And like obviously

450
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Speaker 4: they're not scoring points either. So unless the defense once

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Speaker 4: you know, find a way to put points up on

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Speaker 4: their own. It's been a struggle all year. So if anything,

453
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Speaker 4: Bears plus seven, because you know, I do think the

454
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Speaker 4: Vikings are gonna be trending towards resting stars.

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Speaker 3: That happens and we'll go see a line sync.

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Speaker 4: But you know, kind of like you're saying you don't

457
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Speaker 4: want to bound the Panthers, I don't want to bet

458
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Speaker 4: on this Bears team, so I'm probably gonna be staying away.

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Speaker 1: Look, man, I don't know what you're talking about. If

460
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Speaker 1: you heard Chris Collinsworth last night. He basically was like,

461
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Speaker 1: Missy is as good as Patrick Mahomes, So I don't

462
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Speaker 1: know more weapons, man, right, that's Alan Rotport. You know,

463
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Speaker 1: if only had somebody better than Alan Robinson, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: it would be like the eighth best receiver on the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I saw them do like a side It wasn't a

467
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Speaker 4: side by side, but they're like showing a Mahomes throw

468
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Speaker 4: and then Chubisky throw after, like yeah should It's like, no,

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Speaker 4: these are not even comparable. Mahomes is making like three dudes,

470
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Speaker 4: miss and Tubisky's rolling out of a clean pocket. It's

471
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Speaker 4: so annoying we get these comparisons, but hey man, it

472
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Speaker 4: is what it is. Trying to make some money on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's just trying to make people want

474
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Speaker 1: to watch a game that was over after the first

475
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Speaker 1: quarter over there. So look, first of all, I love

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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is one of my favorite receivers, so I'm

477
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Speaker 1: really disappointed that he has had to play pretty much

478
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Speaker 1: his entire career with terrible quarterbacks. And I feel bad

479
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Speaker 1: for the Bears defense, which you just know, right as

480
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Speaker 1: soon as like they give up a score or something

481
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Speaker 1: they got, they're like, well this game's over.

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Speaker 2: We have nothing we can do.

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Speaker 1: So but with that said, for me, I'm gonna watch

484
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Speaker 1: this game closely tonight. If the Vikings lose, I feel

485
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Speaker 1: very confident that they're going to rest everybody going and

486
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Speaker 1: you know, they's it's a winnable and they're a great team.

487
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Speaker 1: It's a winnable NFC. A lot of the teams are good,

488
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Speaker 1: but they can beat any one of those teams. They're

489
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Speaker 1: a really really solid team. I think they're gonna rest guys.

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Speaker 1: If so, I'm gonna take the plunge and go for

491
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Speaker 1: the Bears at seven before the line drops, because I

492
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Speaker 1: do think that again, you mentioned it there, they can

493
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Speaker 1: look competent offensively at times, right they They certainly can

494
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 1: in some of it was matchup based, but you know,

495
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Speaker 1: I really think they can. And you know, the Vikings

496
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 1: are really beatable against the past, especially if they rest

497
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Speaker 1: you know, their starters offensively. I think the defense can

498
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Speaker 1: at least go out in a high notes. So if

499
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Speaker 1: they lose, If they lose tonight and they're locked into

500
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Speaker 1: the wild card spot, they've got nothing to play for

501
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Speaker 1: next week. I'm just gonna pound the Bears.

502
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Speaker 5: Getting the seventh I'd bust say, I feel so much

503
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Speaker 5: better about backing the Bears with like the one like

504
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Speaker 5: like you said, the one weakness in this Vikings team

505
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 5: is their secondary and specifically their cornerback group, and that

506
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Speaker 5: just so happens to be like we have to now

507
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Speaker 5: trust Mitch Schubisky to exploit that, so.

508
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Speaker 3: Defensive, I feel so much better.

509
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Speaker 1: That's funny, because I would feel not at all better

510
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Speaker 1: trusting David Montgomery behind that line.

511
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Speaker 3: You know what, That's a very good point all the

512
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Speaker 3: way through.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather trust that Robinson and Anthony Miller and everything

514
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Speaker 1: like that. But anyway, let let's see what happens tonight.

515
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Speaker 1: Then that'll really color how we feel about the game.

516
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Speaker 1: Let's move on here to the Falcons at the Bucks.

517
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Speaker 1: Bucks here are laying one with a total at forty

518
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Speaker 1: nine and a half. Falcons finishing strong here, Julio Jones

519
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Speaker 1: needs about one hundred yards to finish with his sixth

520
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Speaker 1: consecutive season of at least fourteen hundred yards receiving. The

521
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: defense is playing much better over the second half of

522
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Speaker 1: the season. But you know what, the Bucks defense playing

523
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Speaker 1: a little bit better too. They've been you know, everybody's

524
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Speaker 1: been talking about how weak their pass defense is for

525
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Speaker 1: most of the season. It's but a little better as

526
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Speaker 1: we've gotten here to the end. James Winston's going to

527
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Speaker 1: turn the ball over three times in this game, but

528
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Speaker 1: he'll also complete passes to Justin Watson and Britshad Perriman

529
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Speaker 1: and the tight ends. HOWE do you feel here about

530
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Speaker 1: the Bucks laying one with a total forty nine and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm looking at that total and I'm agreeing

533
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Speaker 4: with everything you just said about the defenses. I under

534
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: could be the play here, and it's just if through

535
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Speaker 4: getting the full versions about these offenses, sure, I think

536
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Speaker 4: they would be good enough to put up points on

537
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Speaker 4: each other.

538
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Speaker 3: But Julio has done his thing lately.

539
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Speaker 4: But like, the reason the Falcons be able to run

540
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Speaker 4: the ball at all this year is because they've gotten

541
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Speaker 4: games against the Jaguars and Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's it again, you can run those teams.

543
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Speaker 4: Devonte Freeman really, you know, looking like kind of an

544
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Speaker 4: older Marion Barber for the rest of the season unless

545
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Speaker 4: he's been playing one of the least worst rush defenses.

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Speaker 3: And then Buccaneers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Trudeo's to jamis for getting for Shaan Perriman

548
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 4: over one hundred yards last week, and he still made

549
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Speaker 4: that game competitive. But you know, four picks, I think

550
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Speaker 4: we kind of saw what this offense is like. When

551
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Speaker 4: you take away the top two wide receivers are just

552
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Speaker 4: so just so happened to also be two the leagues

553
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Speaker 4: more talented wide receivers and just at the position in general.

554
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Speaker 3: So I mean nothing on Jamis.

555
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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously he needs to clear up the turnovers a

556
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Speaker 4: little bit, but like expecting him to produce without Goblin

557
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 4: without Evans is just kind of asking a lot. They

558
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Speaker 4: haven't been to run the ball all season. The Falcons

559
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: have been playing better on defense since their bye week,

560
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Speaker 4: and they've been a pretty average so above average team

561
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Speaker 4: in general over the last month month and a half.

562
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Speaker 4: So I'm not quite sure who wins this game. But yeah,

563
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Speaker 4: under forty nine and a half is my play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, And the total is trending down.

565
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Speaker 1: It opened at fifteen and a half, so I think

566
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Speaker 1: the sharp betterers are probably with you and it might

567
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Speaker 1: continue to turn down, So if you like it, get

568
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Speaker 1: involved with it now. I agree with you on the total.

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Speaker 1: If forced to go one side or another, I'd probably

570
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Speaker 1: go to the Falcons, just because again he's so decimated. Man,

571
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Speaker 1: I mean, losing the big two at wide receiver is

572
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Speaker 1: really tough. Breshad Perriman played great, and you know Justin

573
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Speaker 1: Watson was involved, but I just I don't think in

574
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Speaker 1: the end they're gonna be able to pull this one out.

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Speaker 2: But I don't have a strong feeling about it.

576
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Speaker 1: I agree with you completely that the under is the play,

577
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Speaker 1: and I think that if you do like the under,

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Speaker 1: you should get it now because I think it's going

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Speaker 1: spread here. Dolphins at the Patriots currently Patriots laying sixteen

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Speaker 1: with a total of forty five and a half. Pats

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Speaker 1: have locked up the division. They need to win to

610
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Speaker 1: ensure that they've got the buy, which they desperately need.

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Speaker 1: They don't look particularly good right now. I mean still

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Speaker 1: defensively they're strong, but offensively it's been a struggle for

613
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Speaker 1: pretty much the whole year. But no one is going

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Speaker 1: to want to play them in the playoffs just because

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Speaker 1: they're the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins fight and they fight hard.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to get the topic in the draft,

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Speaker 1: but you know, if this magic is going to always

619
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Speaker 1: try to keep them in there. So it's a big

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Speaker 1: number here, Patriots laying sixteen with a total forty five

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Speaker 1: and a half.

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Speaker 4: So the one thing that really sticks out to me,

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Speaker 4: I have seen, you know, fitzpatrick AND's offense be entertaining,

624
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Speaker 4: specifically downfield to Devonte Parker and Mike Jasickie. But the

625
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Speaker 4: one thing that hasn't changed was Dolphins team all season.

626
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Speaker 4: Just how atrocious their defenses. I mean, in their last

627
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Speaker 4: six games they've allowed thirty seven, forty one, thirty one,

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Speaker 4: twenty two, thirty six and thirty five points. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you cannot ask for a better just get right spot

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Speaker 4: for the Patriots before the playoffs, and then they've had

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Speaker 4: the best schedule layout all season long, so why stop now?

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Speaker 4: But the Dolphins aren't playing better on offense like I said,

633
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Speaker 4: they got shut out by the Patriots forty three and

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Speaker 4: nothing back when they played in Week two. I think

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Speaker 4: we could both agree that was kind of a different

636
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Speaker 4: Dolphins team and also clearly a different Patriots team since

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Speaker 4: Antonio Brown was suiting.

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Speaker 3: Up in that week.

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm seeing forty five and a half as

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Speaker 4: the over right now, but on some other books it's

641
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Speaker 4: been a little bit lower.

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Speaker 3: If it's underneath forty four. I kind of like the

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Speaker 3: over here.

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Speaker 4: I just think that the Dolphins can't stop anyone and Fitzpatrick,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the guy's going to be slinging it out there,

646
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Speaker 4: and I think he can maybe do enough to give

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Speaker 4: him the end zone once or twice, and at that

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Speaker 4: point that's all we need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think because of that kind of like the

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Speaker 1: taking the points here with the Dolphins. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: get it, they're not gonna win the game, they're not

652
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: gonna keep it close, but there's so many opportunities here

653
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: for a backdoor cover, right because fitz is just gonna

654
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: keep going he I mean, you know, you worry a

655
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: little bit about Gilmour taking away Parker, which he's able

656
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: to do, and they're not really gonna be able to

657
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: run the ball. I mean, even Miles Gaskin is gonna

658
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: be out for this game, I'm sure, so it's gonna

659
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: be Patrick laired, so they really can't do anything there.

660
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: But I think there's gonna.

661
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Be enough there to probably get Sixteen's just I mean

662
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: before this season, numbers like this did not exist. Just

663
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: as a matter of course. Right now, all of a sudden,

664
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what's the spread up seventeen? Great, maybe

665
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: we'll take that. There's just for me, there's too much

666
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: value here with the Dolphins and the pageot. They're just

667
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: not that good offensively. Like, even with how bad the

668
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins are defensively, I don't think they're gonna be able

669
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: to put up like a forty spot on this team

670
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: and just sort of win going. I mean, all you

671
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: got to do for the Dolphins to be able to

672
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: cover this number is like to put up i don't know,

673
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: put up fourteen points or something, score two touchdowns, and

674
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to. So for me, I'm

675
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: looking more at the spread here at sixteen.

676
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: It's just it's too much.

677
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: It's too much, yeah, me, And one thing I would add, like, yeah,

678
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: it's not looking good for Devonte Parker this matchup. But

679
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: the one guy I mean I was rewatching that Bengals

680
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: and Dolphins gamer each today, well, I think I had

681
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: stood out in that Dolphins offense was Albert Wilson. He

682
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 4: had a lot of hype going in the season, but

683
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: was really dealing with the calf injury for most of

684
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: the year, and he really has explosive this back. And

685
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 4: you know, just watching what Cole Beasley did that Patriots

686
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 4: secondary with Jonathan Jones out last week with that groin injury,

687
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: we was gonna do some damage out there. That there's

688
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: holes in the Patriots defense.

689
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: That's why.

690
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I could see them covering that sixteen points,

691
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 4: and I could also see both teams getting over that

692
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 4: you know, forty three, forty four more.

693
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again they're involving Gasicki a lot more now

694
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: as well. So the fact that that that's happening, I mean,

695
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be able to move the ball and

696
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: with sixteen, man, I just doesn't take that much to

697
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: cover that spread. So I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the

698
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: points and probably feel.

699
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Pretty dirty doing it, but whatever.

700
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Packers at the Lions Packers

701
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: laying ten and the total of forty one and a half.

702
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: We just talked about the fact that we have not

703
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: yet seen tonight's game. If the Packers win, then I

704
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: believe they secure a bye. If they win next week,

705
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: and if they lose, then they're going to be in

706
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: the position where they'll need to win to get the division.

707
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: So I think under all circumstances, they're going to be

708
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: motivated here. And then you've got the Lions. David Blau

709
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: is not really an NFL quarterback. They continue to do

710
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: whatever they can. Karrie and Johnson came back, but certainly

711
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect them to be able to hang with

712
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: the Packers. Although the Packers are not that good of

713
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: a team, despite the fact that they may get by here.

714
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: So what do you think your Packers laying ten total

715
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: of forty one and a half.

716
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: I think it's that last point, man, you know.

717
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: I think they could be a good team, but particularly

718
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: their defense just isn't the same kind of group of

719
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: world beaters. I thought they were kind of looking like

720
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: earlier in the season. I mean just with I mean

721
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 4: weeks one, two three, I won. The big story lines

722
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: was like how ya a, Alexander's one of the league's

723
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: nextpecs corners, and then you know, Marii Cooper kind of

724
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: decided that.

725
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: That was not going to be the case.

726
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: But you know, I think Addams, Darius Smith, Prust and

727
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: Smith and they were getting some pressure. But with that said,

728
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: teams have really bit of a run on them. They

729
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: also haven't been great at stopping explosive plays or Kevin

730
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: King has been banned up. The defense really is anything

731
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: pressive impressive, and I agree with you, David Blow not

732
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: an NFL quarterback. With that said, they've scored seventeen to

733
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: twenty points in three or four games underneath the center.

734
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 4: I think forty one and a half is just too low.

735
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: The Lions defense has been very rough recently, starting to

736
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: deal with some injuries in their defensive line line. Kind

737
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: of one thing they've done somewhat well over the last

738
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 4: few months has been stopped to run, but now that's

739
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 4: starting to get jeopardized to draw Davis and the ir recently,

740
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: and thanks to that nature and look the Packers, they've

741
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: done a good job getting Devonte Adams going, and really,

742
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 4: other than Aaron Jones, kind of a little bit more sporadically.

743
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: It's been tough elsewhere, so I do think we're going

744
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 4: to see them continue to try to get this offense

745
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: to Joe kind of like similar to New England. We

746
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: have not seen them peaqual yet on offense, so this

747
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: could be a really good spot for them and try

748
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: to get that rolling ten. I think they can get

749
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: that too. I don't hate back in the Packers here,

750
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: but I'm just more confident. I think these teams combining

751
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: for forty two or more.

752
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like it. I don't want any piece

753
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: of this spread.

754
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to go one way, it'd

755
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: be the Packers just because you know, you can see

756
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be motivated. They desperately need to win,

757
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: regardless of what situation they find themselves in. But I

758
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: agree with you that the total is going to be there.

759
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions again, they find a way to

760
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: put up points.

761
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: Every week.

762
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: They put up seventeen, you know this past week against

763
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, not not an easy matchup against Denver. And

764
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: I do think the Packers they you know, offensively, they're

765
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: really not that impressive because they haven't found that second

766
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: option in the receiving game other than Devonte Adams. You

767
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: know who's their number two wide receiver right now? Is

768
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: it Alan Lazard?

769
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean who is at this point?

770
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: That's probably Lazarre. You know, you got Jimmy Graham's corpse

771
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: running out there. We'll be doing a few things.

772
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: But now it has been rough and they're talking about

773
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: like their big change going to this game is like

774
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: Jake Cumero is getting more reps.

775
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: And nothing against Jake Cumro, but like Clue is the team.

776
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: You know, I all these draft pundets talking about how

777
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: this twenty twenty wide receiver class is just like the

778
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: best ever in there's a team that really needs to

779
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: invest in number two receiving options to the Packers.

780
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, But again, you know, part of what the

781
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Packers have done this year is they've run the ball

782
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: pretty effectively all season. You can run on the Lions,

783
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: so I do think that going to be able to

784
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: put up points, you know, somewhat on both sides.

785
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: So I agree with you with the total. I do

786
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: not want any part of the spread right now.

787
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: If I had to, would be the Packers, but I

788
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't want to get involved with it. Let's move

789
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: on to the Redskins. At the Cowboys. Cowboys here are

790
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: laying ten and a half with a total at forty

791
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: four and a half. This game kind of epitomizes this

792
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: week in that it's a game I've absolutely no idea

793
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: the handy gap. I mean, the Redskins. They continue to

794
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: play hard, they lose an overtime against the Giants. Doyne

795
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: Haskins has already been declared out case. Kingum is certainly

796
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: capable of moving the ball as he did against the Giants. Meanwhile,

797
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys likely lose the NFC East over here with

798
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: their loss to the Eagles, Dak prescott shoulder did not

799
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: look particularly you know right in that game. Mark Cooper

800
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: was left on the bench at various points, so was

801
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: Reynald Cobb. The Cowboys can still get into the playoffs

802
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: if they win and the Eagles lose to the Giants,

803
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: which is certainly a possibility to get to that game.

804
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: So there's motivation here, right.

805
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: They're not completely going to be like, Okay, we're done,

806
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: But ten and a half points and a total forty

807
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: four and a half. I don't know about you. I

808
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: prefer the Redskins getting that amount of points. But let

809
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: me hear your thoughts.

810
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think this Cowboys team deserves to be

811
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: favored by double digits right now really against anyone, anyone.

812
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: At the same time, you know, there's like world beaters

813
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: two weeks ago against the Rams. I mean, it's just

814
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: been such a check going high team all season long.

815
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: And the one thing that really sticks out to me

816
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: in this game, like other than the Cowboys just kind

817
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: of general inconsistency, is just this Redskins defense has really

818
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: fallen apart, and they've just had so many injuries. I

819
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: mean number one cornerback Quitting Dunbar, their slot cornerback Faban Moreau,

820
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: both of them are all sorts of banged up. I mean,

821
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: they've been trying to bench like Josh Norman for the

822
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: entire second half, and they actually had to run them

823
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: out there a little.

824
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: Bit just because so many other guys were banged up.

825
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: But I mean they're fresh off allowing thirty seven and

826
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: forty one points the Eagles and Giants, who you know,

827
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: I think we'd agree don't really have the same offensive.

828
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: Fire part of the Cowboys said.

829
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: With that said, I mean, there's no reason why the

830
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 4: Cowboys should just score nine points against that Eagles secondary

831
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: that was down to the backup quarterbacks by the second half.

832
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: So I think I'm just staying away here. You know,

833
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: it would make sense to me if it goes over

834
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: and the Cowboys win. But I did not have a

835
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: read with this Cowboys team right now. I mean, they

836
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: have to play hard because again that they win the

837
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 4: NFC East if the Eagles lose the Giants and they

838
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: get this win. So based on what's happened this division

839
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: all year, certainly want to be the craziest thing, you know,

840
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: the greatest way to end the season.

841
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: Seems like this is kind of what we're destined to

842
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: see happened.

843
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: But I just thought enough confidentially in the Cowboys to

844
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: put any money on him here.

845
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys could easily win this game by

846
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 1: twenty five points, right or they could lose it. I

847
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: mean that's the problem, right you go in, You're like,

848
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I really have no idea what we're gonna see. I mean,

849
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: I think for me, what it comes down to is this.

850
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins are going to be able to

851
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: put up points here. You know, their offense has not

852
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: been embarrassing. I mean, Haskins has played better in recent

853
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: weeks than I expect it. And again, I think Keenum

854
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: improves the offense because he's a capable.

855
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: Sort of backup quarterback.

856
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin is still playing well Adrian Peterson, It's still

857
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: effective in that backfield somehow, So I do think they're

858
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna be able to put up points. And I really think, honestly,

859
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: what this comes down to is, I really don't I

860
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: think Prescott's shoulder is messed up.

861
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: I think, you know, he made one.

862
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Throw yesterday where I was like, ooh, that that looks

863
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: kind of like the dack of old. But other than

864
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: that really wasn't there. So I don't think they're just

865
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna be able to go crazy with it. I mean,

866
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: they'd be smart to just kind of pound Zeke.

867
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: But we'll see. But in the end, you're getting more

868
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: than the key number of ten. I would take that.

869
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: And again, this is trending down by the way, it

870
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: opened up at eleven and a half. It's now a

871
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: ten and a half, so I could see it continuing

872
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: to go down. I think the sharp money's probably going

873
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: to come in on the Redskins on this one, So

874
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: for me, I'd probably take the Redskins if you can

875
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: get that hook with over ten. Once it drops to

876
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: ten or a little bit below, i'd be a little

877
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: more nervous about it. But as now, I'm going to

878
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: fire a couple of bets on the Redskins getting that hook.

879
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Let's move on here to Red real quick.

880
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 4: It also seems like a Marii Cooper can't be one

881
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: hundred percent on now. I mean they're talking about he

882
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: wasn't on the field on you know, that fourth and

883
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: AD play because it wasn't a formation they were calling

884
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: all day. But i mean, come on, man, and like

885
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: four or five weeks ago, it's like how you couldn't

886
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: watched one game without seeing just five awesome route running

887
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: hillies from the guy creating like ten yards of separation

888
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: and we just haven't seen that. And he was listed

889
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: on the injury report pretty regularly with kind of like

890
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: knee calf injuries throughout the first half the season, and

891
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: just kind of once they established that he was going

892
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: to keep playing through this, I think they kind of

893
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: took him off. So same thing with Dak. You know,

894
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: if he's out there and kind of toughened it out,

895
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent.

896
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.

897
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Great point there, I guarantee you almost as soon as

898
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys season is over, you're gonna hear that Amari

899
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Cooper is scheduled first. Certain Yeah, right exactly. So yeah, look,

900
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: he's trying to gut it out, but you know they're

901
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: not at one hundred percent. For me, again, the bigger

902
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: thing is Dak because I think if you can't make

903
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: those throws that he's capable of making it. Just you know,

904
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: the offense. Certainly at ten and a half, there's enough

905
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: of a reason to think that there'd be a backdoor

906
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: cover at absolute worst. Let's move on here to the

907
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: Colts at the Jaguars. Colts playing three and a half

908
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: with a total of forty three. The Colts win handledly

909
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: against the Panthers, but they really do very little offensively.

910
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: It's mostly two punt returns from Naim Heines and and

911
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: inept offense by Carolina that we talked about earlier. Meanwhile,

912
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are a complete disaster on both sides of

913
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: the ball. They lose against the Falcons by twelve. If

914
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: not for that game that they somehow won against the

915
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Raiders in the last game in Oakland, we'd just be

916
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: betting against them completely last time these two teams met,

917
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: the Colts one by twenty.

918
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about you at this point.

919
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: I honestly I thought the spread would be more like

920
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Colts minus five. So I you know, I like it

921
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: at three and a half. But let me know your

922
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: thoughts three and a half total at forty three.

923
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like the Colts here. I mean, you're right,

924
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: nim Hines took those parking turns back and that was

925
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 4: kind of big plays. But I mean, the Panthers couldn't

926
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 4: slow down this Colts rushing offense the entire game, both

927
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: Marlon Mack and Jeorde Wilkins, who were just kind of

928
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: having their way with them. And that's because one the

929
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 4: Panthers are awful. Like I said, four Panthers and oh

930
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: look here we go the Jaguars, the two defenses that

931
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: you can run on no matter what. And the Colts,

932
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: you know, the one constant they've had this season, you know,

933
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: wide receivers banged up, Backfield's banged up, to Kobe's been

934
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: a little bit inconsistent. The one consistent factor has been

935
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 4: their offensive line. Now this is maybe the only offensive

936
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 4: line injury you need to truly like, hang your hat

937
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: on this week, but Quentin Nelson is currently in the

938
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: concussion protocol. If he gets like, if he's clear, then

939
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: I think the Colts can just run the ball down

940
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 4: in Jaguars throats all game. I never want to say

941
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: a team is just quitting because I think, just like

942
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: the nature of NFL football, you can't just quit out there.

943
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: You're going to get hurt, You're get embarrassed, and these

944
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: guys are still out there playing for a job. Like

945
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: even last week, you know, the Falcons got up quick

946
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: on the Jaguars still only won that game by twelve points,

947
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 4: So I think saying they just kind of quit on

948
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: the whole thing is lit bit strong. With that said,

949
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, other than that Raiders come

950
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 4: back that just came out of nowhere, the Jaguars have

951
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: lost by twenty three points, twenty points, twenty two, seventeen,

952
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: thirty five, and twelve. I mean it's not They're not

953
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: just losing, They're getting blown out. And I think this

954
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: is just a bad matchup for them stylistically, with the

955
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: Colts offense that all they want to do is run

956
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: the ball, and the Jaguars with they have five or

957
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: six off ball linebackers on IR at this point, they

958
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: just can't stop anybody on it. I like the Colts

959
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: and yeah, i'd like them a higher number as well.

960
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah me too, man, We're we're in agreement on this one.

961
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: That Jaguars like the defense looks like they just don't

962
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: have all that much interest in tackling people.

963
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I wondered whether or not the firing of Tom Coughlin

964
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 1: would like sort of signal something. They'd be like, oh,

965
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it would, We're released. Let's play lady.

966
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: They were just terrible in that game. So yeah, I'm

967
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: completely I'm all over. The Colts are at three and

968
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: a half, and I'd be willing to do it even

969
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: if it rose a couple points, which you know right

970
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,480
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971
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986
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles. That the Giants Eagles laying four and a

987
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: half with a total of forty five and a half ian.

988
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: What are you up to next weekend? Do you have

989
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: any plans next weekend? This weekend?

990
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: No?

991
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: No, this weekend coming up? Do you have any plans?

992
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm about to watch my Hogs day Buckeyes get

993
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 4: that w over Clemson back.

994
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Well, good luck with that.

995
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: But if you get bored, do you want to catch

996
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: any passes for the Eagles? Because I just checked on

997
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: LinkedIn and there are I know, I froze.

998
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: You a little bit.

999
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to see I wanted to lead you a

1000
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: little bit, but it's all right, man, I like your style.

1001
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Legitimately they have nobody the ball is zach Ertz fractures

1002
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: his ribs. He's uncertain for next week. Jj R Thaka

1003
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: Whiteside is banged up. I don't know about his status.

1004
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: They hold their destiny in their own hands, but it's

1005
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard and Greg Ward and Miles Sanders. Apparently Jordan

1006
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: Howard is going to come back for this game. I

1007
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: don't think that matters whatsoever, because the one bright spot

1008
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: has really been Sanders in that offense. What they have though,

1009
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: my being up against the Giants, who defensively continue to

1010
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: look awful. Offensively, Saquon Barkley dominates the Redskins both golden taint,

1011
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Surling Shepherd heavily involved. Darius Slayton plays through an injury.

1012
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: But still they've got some offensive juice, just not much

1013
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, specifically, especially since getting rid of

1014
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Jenero Shenkins. So Eagles with the destiny in their own

1015
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: hand four and a half over under forty five and

1016
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: a half.

1017
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be so much easier to just put all

1018
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: of our bank roll on Philly if they were just

1019
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: even remotely, not just bang up like as much as possible.

1020
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: So man Daniel Jones has gotten good at balling out

1021
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: against bad teams. He's gone for three hundred dollars and

1022
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 4: four touchdowns against the Redskins, Lions, and Jets, also a

1023
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: big game against the Buccaneers. Problem is, we've seen him

1024
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: pretty much collapse against everyone else. And I know, you know,

1025
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: we saw Devonte Parker just go nuts against the Eagles.

1026
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: We saw Dwayne Haskins really after weeks of just not

1027
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: doing anything, all of a sudden the competent against the secondary.

1028
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: With that said, once they got Mills and Darby Helsy together,

1029
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: they've allowed seventeen or fewer points in six of their

1030
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: last eight games. I mean this Eagles defense, they have

1031
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: enough difference makers at the line of scrimmage. They can

1032
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: stop the run game, and even if their secondary can't

1033
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 4: always hold up, they at least get pressure.

1034
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: So it's not like this is just an awful defense.

1035
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: They have talented players with different spots, just sometimes their

1036
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: cornerbacks get attacked. I'd be much more comfortable laying the

1037
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: points with the Eagles if we can get some confirmation

1038
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: that Darby and Mills are gonna be back. I know

1039
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: they're not very good to begin with, but dating back

1040
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: to like last year too, and when the Eagles really

1041
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: fall apart, it's when they have injuries in the secondary.

1042
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 4: At full strength, they're not really all that great to

1043
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 4: begin with, but once you take away those guys, it

1044
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 4: gets really bad. So I'm probably gonna stay away if

1045
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: those guys are out.

1046
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: It's the NFC East.

1047
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: If there's one thing we've learned this season, it's that

1048
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: who the hell knows what's going on in NFC East.

1049
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, got into my head.

1050
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: I do think the Eagles win this game. Maybe not

1051
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: by four and a half though, so god, Giants plus.

1052
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Four and a half.

1053
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing. That's exactly how I feel.

1054
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: I I bet you if you're the Giants, who I mean,

1055
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: I think they probably love this, right, They would love

1056
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: to win this game, and basic right, they are going

1057
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: to come in here.

1058
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: It's this divisional game.

1059
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: They like to play spoiler in this and you know

1060
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: it would be just so perfect, you know, indicative of

1061
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: what the season was.

1062
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: If the ego both.

1063
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: The Eagles and the Cowboys lose you know, their finals,

1064
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what would really be poetry in this point.

1065
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: For me, I mean, I agree with you. Everything you're saying,

1066
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Darby sounds a little worrisome to me, But you know,

1067
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: I am gonna I think I like the Giants with

1068
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: the points. I just I don't think that the Eagles

1069
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: have enough offensive firepower to be able to take advantage

1070
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: of that horrible Giants defense. I mean, and we're talking

1071
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: how the Redskins just did it. I have more faith

1072
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: than the Redskins offense and the Eagles offense right now,

1073
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: given all the injuries.

1074
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: So I think I lean towards.

1075
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: The Giants, but I don't feel all that confident in it, frankly.

1076
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: But that's around where we are.

1077
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Steelers at the Ravens is

1078
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: one of the games that has moved the spread by

1079
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: multiple points. It was Ravens two and a half, it's

1080
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: now Steelers laying to. The total has dropped by three

1081
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: and a half points. Open at forty one and a half,

1082
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: it's now thirty eight. The Ravens are are They've already

1083
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: come out, they're Markingham's hurt, so he's clearly not.

1084
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: Going to play.

1085
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be back to the playoffs with this cat strain.

1086
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is resting this game, so you will see

1087
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: RG three. The Steelers defense remains strong, but offensively they

1088
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: are terrible. Dock Hodgs is going to get another start

1089
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: here because of Mason Rudolf's injury, but it sounds like

1090
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: James Connor is probably going to miss this game. From

1091
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: last thing I read, there's no tenth of.

1092
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: Them going anywhere.

1093
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: Even if they make the playoffs, they can get in

1094
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: if they win and the Titans lose. So what do

1095
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: you think here? I don't know how you even analyze

1096
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: this game. Steelers laying to and the total thirty eight,

1097
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: so the.

1098
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 4: One important thing I'd also know with the rest, I mean,

1099
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 4: it was not only Lamar Jackson's been ruled out right,

1100
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: it's Earl Thomas Marshall, Yanda, Brandon Williams, and honestly, like

1101
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: last on Sunday, Jimmy Smith and Marcus Peters were each

1102
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: banged up at different points the kind of had to

1103
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: miss certain times. This is looking like it could be

1104
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 4: a full on like first team entirely benched. Now Ken

1105
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: Duck Hodges beat the second string Ravens in Baltimore, I'm

1106
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: not really sure. So it's seems to me like a

1107
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 4: stay away. I mean, it sucks that this awesome Pittsburgh

1108
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: defense is kind of being wasted on a you know,

1109
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 4: just this offense and this kind of team in general.

1110
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: I know, makeu fits. Patrick's got in a lot of

1111
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: the praise, but more often not. Joe Hayden's been awesome.

1112
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: Devin Bush, after a real kind of first after a

1113
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: rough stretch, kind of started his career. He's helped give

1114
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: them that sideline, the sideline their linebacker they've been missing

1115
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: ever since Ryan Shazier, and I think really when you

1116
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: have that kind of speed in the middle of their

1117
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: defense just helps kind of raise the performance of everyone else.

1118
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: So I would really like to know for sure who

1119
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: the Ravens are sitting, because you know, if we're only

1120
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: kind of missing those four guys, then I think they

1121
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: could probably still get the job done. But to me,

1122
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: it sounds more like a full on benching and just

1123
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 4: kind of in the passing. We saw this in the

1124
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: I know, a completely different situation, but you know, Panther Saints,

1125
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: like Week seventeen last year, we've seen bad teams beat

1126
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 4: good teams that are arresting like most of their major

1127
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: and I think the Steelers, they're still well coach, their

1128
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: defense is anyone's idea of the league. I would take

1129
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: the Steelers' points gun to my head, but kind of

1130
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: like the NFC East, I just don't want anything to

1131
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: do with the Steelers team because it's been tough to

1132
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: get a grip on them all season long.

1133
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: There's only one part of the Steelers team I want,

1134
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: and that's the under and that's you know, this game

1135
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: has dropped to thirty eight. That is a low total.

1136
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's where it's stopping. I think it's

1137
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: going to continue to go down. I think you're going

1138
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: to end it around thirty seven.

1139
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that call. I mean, I'm here, I'm

1140
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: here on the spot they're.

1141
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: At right because you know they're not gonna the defense

1142
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: is going to be playing it. You know, it's not

1143
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: gonna be all backups, and they're gonna be you know,

1144
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: formidable enough.

1145
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: And they're at home.

1146
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: They're not you know, and and uh Dave Cocan I

1147
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: guess from last week talked about how John Harbaugh really

1148
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: hates to lose, so he's going to have them playing hard.

1149
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to see the Steelers really being able to

1150
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: move the ball well. And if you've got RG three

1151
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: out there for the Ravens, it's hard to see them

1152
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: moving the ball against the Steelers. So I'll take the under.

1153
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: I'll enjoy a ten to three win by one of

1154
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: the teams, and then I'll move on from there.

1155
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: That's an awesome point about Harbor. I forgot about his

1156
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: you know, just always a ma preseason record.

1157
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: Correct. Yes, he's like the most winning his coach, and

1158
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: he doesn't like to lose. It was a great point.

1159
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: So certainly he's not gonna just roll over here. But

1160
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: in the end they probably won't have enough offensive firepower

1161
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: to put up points on that Steelers defense. So I'll

1162
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: go with the under, and I'll hit it now before

1163
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: it drops even further. Let's move on to the Cardinals.

1164
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: At the Rams, Rams lank seven and a half with the.

1165
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: Total at forty nine.

1166
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: We're almost certainly gonna be without Kyler Murray here, I think,

1167
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean, there was some optimism on his.

1168
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: Hands own ran you think he's gonna play.

1169
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury is saying like, if he's so enough to play,

1170
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: he's gonna play. And then reports come out that the

1171
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: MRI showed nothing significant. It's just a regular minor hamstring pool.

1172
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 4: I have no idea why you play it doesn't make sense,

1173
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: and he probably won't be a one hundred percent if

1174
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: he does.

1175
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: But I to me, it sounds like legit questionable.

1176
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: That's okay. I think that that's fair.

1177
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's certainly not in any way ruled out at

1178
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: this point, but again, you know he was battling hamstring

1179
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: injury a couple of weeks ago. It really seems pretty

1180
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: dumb to mess with the soft tissue injury at this point.

1181
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: Although God forbid something happened, he'd have plenty of time

1182
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: to recover before next season, so you know, you have

1183
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: to take that into account. If not, it's going to

1184
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: be Brett Hunley, who's capable of running the same type

1185
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: of offense, just not nearly as effectively. Meanwhile, the Rams

1186
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: they nearly pulling out against the forty nine ers, they're

1187
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: going to miss the playoffs though it's really just about pride.

1188
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: So how do you feel here?

1189
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: Rams at home link seven and a half with the

1190
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: total forty nine, With the understanding that it's a bit

1191
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: uncertain with Kyler Murray, not to.

1192
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: Say forty nine just seems too high. With a the

1193
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: whole Kyler situation. I mean, yeah, Brett Humley, it's kind

1194
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: of like the Ravens. You know, RG three can step

1195
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: in and run the same offense as Lamar.

1196
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 3: They don't need to completely change styles.

1197
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: But with that said, I think we're also seeing a

1198
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 4: fairly big drop off in talent like we would also

1199
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: see in Baltimore here in Arizona. So I think under

1200
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: forty nine. Yeah, the Rams offense, I thought they were

1201
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: kind of turning around. They've looked great against the Cardinals,

1202
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: and they played the first time Seahawks and then you

1203
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 4: know they had that Cowboys though, before actually being competitive

1204
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: again next week or last week against the forty nine ers.

1205
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: So I feel better about the Cardinals plus seven and

1206
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: a half if we had more of an assurance on health.

1207
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: But kind of seeing how that game went the first

1208
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: time around two bad teams, I'll know we see both

1209
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 4: offense like put together a great performance here.

1210
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want any piece of this. I honestly,

1211
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: I feel like there are so many teams that I

1212
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: feel like I don't have a read on the Cowboys.

1213
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: We've talked, you know, who knows what you know? The

1214
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: Bucks were like that for us of the season. The

1215
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Titans were like that for a lot of the season

1216
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: before they switch to ten l The Rams are a

1217
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: team I don't have a read on. I just don't

1218
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm going to get any any game from

1219
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: one to the next, you know, I it depends. I mean,

1220
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: even if Murray plays, I can't imagine it's going to

1221
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: be that effective. So, you know, I guess I think

1222
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: you make good points there. But for me just to

1223
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: stay away game, I think let's move on to the

1224
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: Raiders at the Broncos. Broncos laying three and a half

1225
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: with the total of forty one, Raiders are halfway home

1226
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: to the ten leg parlay or whatever they had to

1227
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: try to make the playoffs.

1228
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: They win this game, the Titans.

1229
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: The Steelers, and the Jaguars all lose, they will get

1230
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: in as the sixth seed. That is, you know, seems unlikely,

1231
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: but not crazy unlikely at this point when you look

1232
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: at those games. The Bronco's not a pushover, though they

1233
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: continue to play hard. Drew Lock has not been great,

1234
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: but he's done enough. The Broncos defense continues to play

1235
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: pretty well. So how do you feel here about the

1236
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Broncos at home? Length three and a half of the

1237
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: total forty one.

1238
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 4: I've been pretty presently surprised at what Drew Lock's done.

1239
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: I mean, look, he had the dud and arrowhead, but

1240
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: that was kind of a weird snow game. They weren't

1241
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: even able to run the ball, and I think that

1242
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 4: was just kind of a he wasn't gonna look good

1243
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 4: in that situation really no matter what. So if we're

1244
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: remove that, yeah, you know, looking pretty good against the Chargers,

1245
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: Texans and Lions. If you remove the Lions, at least

1246
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 4: the Chargers and Texans have They're not good defenses either,

1247
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: but they're not complete, you know, just utter pushovers. So

1248
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: I think Drew Lock can move the ball on the

1249
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: Raiders defense, which is a complete and utter pushover that

1250
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: you know. I thought Phils philp Rivers company were gonna

1251
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: get going last week, but just with their inability to

1252
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 4: protect them, it's been a better offense in Denver. I mean,

1253
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: the one thing Lock has done has shown he can

1254
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: enable Courtland Sutton. We saw Lindsay in that run game

1255
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: get going a little bit more last week. They're different teams,

1256
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: but you know, Raiders still playing for playoffs, but spot

1257
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: they did win this game in Week one, so they

1258
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: can move the ball. I the over runners a little

1259
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: bit low here of forty one. I'm kind of liking

1260
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: the over here just with the Raiders. They are fighting

1261
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 4: for the playoff lives and the Broncos, you know, with

1262
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: this momentum with Drew Locke, I don't think they're really

1263
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: trying to take the foot off the gas either. I mean,

1264
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: they're in a situation where they win this day and

1265
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: they can kind of feel good about the direction they're

1266
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: heading into the offseason. So uh, not the best to back,

1267
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: you know, Derek Carr and Drew Locke in the game.

1268
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: I hope for the over end, but I think forty

1269
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 4: one is long enough will take that chance.

1270
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they just won what twenty seven seventeen

1272
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: I believe against the Lions, right, so that would that

1273
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: would go over there's no reason to expect this one

1274
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: to be all that different.

1275
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you here.

1276
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are going to win this game

1277
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: just because I think that that's how I think maybe

1278
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: everything else falls perfectly for the Raiders to make the playoffs,

1279
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: and they've done this, so yeah, that would be bad, But

1280
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: I think they win the game, but I'm not sure

1281
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: I love them at more than the key number of three.

1282
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I expect it to be probably a tight game,

1283
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: but I agree with you. I think they're both going

1284
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: to be able to put up points. Broncos surely are

1285
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: because the Raiders defense is really not good and as

1286
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Broncos continue to play tough. They've been

1287
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: dealing with some injuries on the defense side of the ball,

1288
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: and the Raiders' offense is competent. You might see Josh

1289
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: Jacobs in this game. I mean he's you know, Gooden

1290
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: came out to end said he might play. But DeAndre

1291
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: Washington is a perfectly capable fill in running back. So

1292
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: I do think that there are going to be points.

1293
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: So I like the call. I like over at forty

1294
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: one and the spread I'm probably staying away from. If anything,

1295
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: I lean a little bit towards the Broncos. Let's move

1296
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: on here to the Titans. At the Texans. Titans now

1297
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: are laying five with the total of forty five and

1298
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: a half. Pretty simple for the Titans. This is a

1299
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: playoff game. If they win, they are in. If they lose,

1300
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: they need some help. You can probably expect Derrick Henry

1301
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: to be back here. That was probably more about them

1302
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: managing knowing that they would need to win this game. Meanwhile,

1303
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: the Texans are in but Bill Brian has suggested that

1304
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: the team is going to play their starters, although it's

1305
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: a little ambiguous. You know, they want to win every game.

1306
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what that means. They would be

1307
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: wise to probably rest to Shaun Watson since he was

1308
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: getting his butt kicked by the Bucks and getting hit

1309
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: at the best they could do is the three seed.

1310
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: They can't get the buy, so it's really between the

1311
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: three and the four seats. So how do you feel

1312
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: here texting Titans on the road.

1313
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: Laying five with the total forty five and a half.

1314
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, please rest Deshaun Watson?

1315
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, man, Like you know you're talking about

1316
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: like how the Bills should rest Josh Allen and when

1317
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 4: we're talking about these types of quarterbacks too that are

1318
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 4: running around more often, you know, I don't think that

1319
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: just because you're a scrambling quarterback, you're necessarily more prone

1320
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: to injury. I mean, I think those quarterbacks are kind

1321
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: of able to be be more athletic and kind of

1322
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: avoid those big shots make these miss get out of bounds,

1323
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: like you don't just want to be a statue in

1324
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 4: the pocket getting teed off on either. So I think

1325
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: that's a little bit of a misnomber sometimes. With that said,

1326
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: I mean Deshaun Watson. He makes magic happen sometimes. He

1327
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 4: also takes some bad sacks sometimes because he doesn't you know,

1328
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 4: he doesn't give up on plays, which is awesome when

1329
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 4: it works out, but you know, just too many times

1330
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: he's trying to throw the ball with guys around his legs.

1331
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 4: And if there's ever a quarterback that let's just take

1332
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: him off the field less go into the playoffs healthy

1333
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: with him. I think it's Deshaun Watson, and he is

1334
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: the only reason why I would back up Texas in

1335
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: this game. So I think the Titans have better position

1336
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 4: groups pretty much across the board. You know, obviously DeAndre Hopkins,

1337
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 4: uh you know, is better than a J. Brown, which

1338
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 4: people might be trying to bay after this last month.

1339
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: So I don't know, but you know.

1340
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: In general, just line play, I think overall talent across

1341
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: the board, I think the Titans are better than the Texans.

1342
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: Three and a half is a little bit high, but uh.

1343
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: No, no, it's all the way up to five. Man.

1344
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: Oh wow. So yes, I wrote down three and a

1345
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: half a couple of hours ago.

1346
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: What that's exactly right. It's moved all the way up

1347
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: to five.

1348
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

1349
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1350
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: So they must be assuming that they're going to be

1351
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 3: sitting the starters.

1352
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 2: And I honestly, I think that that is a safe assumption.

1353
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean again, O'Brien came out said he wasn't going

1354
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: to do it, and and or he was vague about it,

1355
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: which I think. By the way, there are a couple

1356
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: of injuries which I guess we should mention Fuller's out

1357
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: for this game. Willfuller who left with a growing injury.

1358
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: He's definitely out of this game, which again, that's that's huge.

1359
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: It takes away the field stretcher that really kind of

1360
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: hurts their offense a little bit. And Corey Davis is

1361
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol, I believe, so he may miss

1362
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: the game. He's obviously not a huge part of the

1363
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: passing game at this point, but his presence means something.

1364
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: I think for me, what's going to happen is.

1365
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: They're going to talk about it, like Deshaun Watson is

1366
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: playing coming into the game, and then the day before,

1367
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: maybe two days before, you're.

1368
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: Going to hear that he's going to be benched. It

1369
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: would be ridiculous to play him in this game, Absolutely ridiculous.

1370
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're the third or the fourth seed.

1371
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: He's a guy who, like you said, his big thing

1372
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: is he hangs in that pocket so he gets hit.

1373
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: You saw him he was limping around against the Bucks

1374
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: after getting hit a bunch of time. So I think

1375
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: in the end they're going to be smart about it

1376
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: and they're going to wind up sitting. I think Watson

1377
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: it's hard. Sometimes in these games you feel like the

1378
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: coach is like, well, I owe it, you know, to

1379
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I'd want somebody to do it, you know,

1380
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: to put our guys out there. But in the end,

1381
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: the other thing is that if the Titans jump to

1382
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: a lead, a little bit of a lead, you can

1383
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: see them then pulling Watson right or if he takes

1384
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: a shot, you can see them saying, okay, we're going

1385
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: to be careful air and pull him at this game.

1386
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: So for me, even at five I'm getting in, I

1387
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: think the number is actually going to continue to rise

1388
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: at this point. So if you like the Titans, like

1389
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: I do, I jump in on it now. Let's move

1390
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: on to our final game forty nine the Seahawks forty

1391
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: nine ers length three and a half with the total

1392
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: at forty seven. Chris Carson down with the fractured hip,

1393
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: CJ prosize down with the broken arms. So it looks

1394
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: like it actually might be time for Marshawn Lynch. There

1395
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: is optimism that he was coming back, which I love it.

1396
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: Make the spread Seahawks minus you know, seventeen, because they're

1397
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to lose that game if Lynch

1398
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: comes back. There is a ton on the line here.

1399
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers win and they are the number

1400
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: one seed. Well, the Seahawks would likely be the fifth seed,

1401
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: possibly the sixth if they lose. Meanwhile, if the Seahawks win,

1402
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: they win the division and the possibility of the two seed.

1403
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: But it depends. There's just a ton up in the air.

1404
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about the forty nine ers

1405
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: length three and a half with the total of forty

1406
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: seven in Seattle?

1407
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 4: Like, Seattle has nothing new with marsh On Lynch, but

1408
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: I just look what's been the biggest problem with the

1409
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 4: Seattle offense kind of all year. The issue has been

1410
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 4: when they just refuse to pass, they take the game

1411
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 4: out of Russell Wilson's hands. Carson more often than not,

1412
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 4: was good, but come on, like eight nine fumbles where

1413
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: we've had this year certainly hasn't helped his cause for

1414
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: the entire our season. As far as astoncerned, they should

1415
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 4: be getting Davian Clowney back, hopefully to kill Griffin, who

1416
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 4: is easily the best cornerback in a secondary that has

1417
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 4: always been been pretty pretty putrid all season.

1418
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: I think it's a close game. We saw them play

1419
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: very close.

1420
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: It's you know, winner gets the division to be over

1421
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: that key number on a team that's home and has

1422
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: clearly the better starting quarterback.

1423
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: He lean toward Seattle, Yeah, I did initially when I

1424
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: looked at it.

1425
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: Okay, look, okay, okay, Well here's the one thing.

1426
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: Okay, this game against Arizona, this clearly struck me as

1427
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: something where the Shawks were just completely looking past it. Right,

1428
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: they knew that this was the game that was coming on.

1429
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: So the fact that they played so poorly overall, I'm

1430
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: willing to throw out and they are going to get

1431
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: healthier on the defensive side. This is just tough. It's

1432
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: a really tough game. I I don't want to back

1433
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: either a team at this point because I agree it

1434
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: was the look ahead was three at that point. It

1435
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, really that enticing either way at three

1436
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: and a half. I kind of agree that the Seahawks

1437
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: like the play at this point point, but I just

1438
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: it feels like the forty nine Ers at this point

1439
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: are just a.

1440
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: More complete team. Overall.

1441
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: The Seahawks all year have not been as good as

1442
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: their record has been. Of course, it's been mostly Russell

1443
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: Wilson finding ways that win a ton of close games.

1444
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't really have a good feel.

1445
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: For it, honestly. You know, I like that you're a

1446
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: little more confident in the Seahawks than I am. But

1447
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, I could see the forty nine Ers just

1448
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: you know, being the spirit team and coming in here

1449
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: and winning it, but again with more than three points. Basically,

1450
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm just basically saying, I like, kind of don't like

1451
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: this side, but I kind of don't like this side,

1452
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: and that's where.

1453
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaving it.

1454
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: So in the end, all right, you're gonna get in

1455
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: there on the three and a half, and frankly, I

1456
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: think the number is gonna continue to move up. I

1457
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: think the sharpbetterers are liking the forty nine Ers here.

1458
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: They've been fading the Seahawks a lot during the season,

1459
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: and again, the Seahawks have have won a ton of

1460
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: close games. I think they've won by more than eight

1461
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: points just one time this entire season. So all right,

1462
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the three and a half. Any feelings

1463
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: on the total, by the way, at forty seven.

1464
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: I kind of like the under a little, but just

1465
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: more we think about it. I'm just you know, I

1466
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: think his store the second game between division opponents. You

1467
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 4: know that we have seen lower scores in those games,

1468
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: you know, the second time you're running into that offense

1469
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 4: and healthier Seattle defense. Obviously we know about the forty

1470
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: nine Ers defense, which is also I mean, it was

1471
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 4: gonna see them get Richard Sherman, Kawan Williams back lass.

1472
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: I think the falcons that they have, which is kind

1473
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: of more due to having five defensive stars out than anything.

1474
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: I can see the undergo here and just you know,

1475
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: a hotly contested, you know, kind of throwback mid to

1476
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: mid twenty tens.

1477
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: Forty nine Ers Seahawks clash.

1478
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.

1479
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard because you know, the

1480
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks like to as much as you know, they probably

1481
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: do better just to turn over to Russell Wilson.

1482
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: They like to run the ball a lot.

1483
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: As good as fun as it will be to see

1484
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: Marshall Lynch back in Seattle, They're not gonna be able

1485
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: to do it as effectively as they were able to

1486
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: do when they had both Penny and Carson, So I

1487
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: think that leads to lower points. So I'm inclined to

1488
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: agree with you on the over under it With this spread,

1489
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm just staying away and I'm just gonna, you know,

1490
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: enjoy watching the game from a lovelier ball perspective. All right,

1491
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: that's going to do it for today's show. Ian, thanks

1492
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: for joining me. Remind everybody where they can find more

1493
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: of you and your work.

1494
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: Thanks. That's fun.

1495
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: Foind me on Twitter at iHeart it's I H A

1496
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 4: R T I t Z NFL analysts over at rotal World.

1497
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: I'll tweet out all my stuff throughout the week. Plenty

1498
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 4: of stuff on the way. I know the season long

1499
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 4: fans football is over, but the grind never stops throughout

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