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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: There's Charles W Chuck Bryan, and there's guest producer Noel who, frankly,

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Speaker 1: I think he's done enough times. I we should just

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Speaker 1: be like our other producer Noel, and then if we're

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Speaker 1: in France, I would say our other producer. So just

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Speaker 1: removing the interim tag the guests fag. I think he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's earned it, don't you? What is with

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Speaker 1: you in these snacks? All right? Everyone, you should know

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Speaker 1: Josh has a largish cup. This is not large. It's

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Speaker 1: a small tumbler at best, tumbler full of jelly beans

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Speaker 1: and animal crackers as if you are a four year old.

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Speaker 1: Four year old should not be eating the stuff. Weird.

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Speaker 1: I don't like jelly beans, so well, whatever do you

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Speaker 1: put them in your mouth at the same time? Is

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Speaker 1: that the idea? Because they're all this mixed in there together? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, really, you're eating an animal cracker

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Speaker 1: at the same time as a jelly bean. Ohh no, no, okay, no,

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Speaker 1: I suit you me. I thought about the different flavors

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Speaker 1: of jelly beans are those of the weird jelly beans

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Speaker 1: are like, hey, this is fart snake oil. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to be, though, I think they turned. It

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be just lime and great snake. That's

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Speaker 1: a good, good one. Uh. So, I've been singing the

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Speaker 1: Indigo Girls song in my head all day because of

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Speaker 1: water Sheds. I just want to throw that out there.

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Speaker 1: Is that one of the songs? I knew it was

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Speaker 1: one of their restaurants? Yeah, I didn't know it was

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Speaker 1: named after a song. Yeah. Up on the Watershed is

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Speaker 1: how it goes. Yeah, it's a good restaurant. It's Emily

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Speaker 1: from the Anigo Girls. It was. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: it still is, but yeah, I think it still is. Well,

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Speaker 1: so she named water shed after her song. She named

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Speaker 1: her song after the actual hydrological unit of watersheds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think she thought that naming a song um kid

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Speaker 1: fears would be weird. Oh is that the song? No

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Speaker 1: watershed is the song? But I was just making a

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Speaker 1: joke about another one of their songs, Okay, I thought maybe. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This is the most confusing Indigo Girls conversation I've ever had,

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Speaker 1: including the famous uh Indigo Girls conversation of ODT three.

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Speaker 1: This is more confusing. This is the worst, the worst

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Speaker 1: intro we've ever had in our lives. Alright, Well let's

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Speaker 1: continue then, Alright, so chuck watershed. Well, I already kind

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Speaker 1: of gave it away a little bit by saying it's

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Speaker 1: a hydrological unit. So watershed is basically Actually, it's even

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Speaker 1: easier to say, what's not a watershed? Not a watershed

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Speaker 1: is a ridgeline or a hilltop, or a large body

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Speaker 1: Everything else is basically a watershed, yeah, which is to say,

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Speaker 1: a place where water sheds rain water, water comes down

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Speaker 1: upon the earth and then eventually finds its way to

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Speaker 1: a larger body of water via watersheds. That's right. I

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Speaker 1: just saw that there was this cool thing. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember the exact name of it, but a thing that

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Speaker 1: you can do here in Georgia where you can follow

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Speaker 1: the water from Atlanta all the way to Sapelo Island. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's a tour. I think you like, canoe part

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Speaker 1: of it and you just sort of, you know, follow

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Speaker 1: its path. It's like a little echoed So I see,

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Speaker 1: I thought you meant like online. No, no, no, you

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Speaker 1: actually do it. Forget it? No, it does sound pretty cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw them where that um, one drop of water,

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Speaker 1: This is on a kid's website, but one drop of

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Speaker 1: water stays in a lake for about a hundred years

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Speaker 1: for it moves along. Is that why you're eating the

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Speaker 1: kid's website. Nice? All right, so we know what watersheds

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Speaker 1: are and are not. Uh, if you want the strict

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Speaker 1: definition from the e p A, they said as anybody

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Speaker 1: of land that flows downhill into a waterway. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: they can be very big, they can be very small.

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Speaker 1: I saw somewhere that made reference to uh, something the

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Speaker 1: size of a footprint could conceivably constitute a watershed. Right.

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Speaker 1: So basically, anything that's defined by some sort of higher elevation, um,

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Speaker 1: Because if you, as this article puts it, if you

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Speaker 1: watersheds and your mortal enemies, right exactly, if you're a

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Speaker 1: half field and you're a McCoy uh. The the our

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Speaker 1: own article UM had a nice little analogy with the umbrellas.

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Speaker 1: Like if you turn over let's say five or six

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Speaker 1: that main umbrella, which would be whatever main body of

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Speaker 1: water it flows into, right, so ocean or a lake

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And then each each watershed is defined by

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Speaker 1: the um the headwater of the water it goes into correct, right,

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Speaker 1: so um the well you have three things as far

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Speaker 1: the river. And there it goes there it's off headwaters

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Speaker 1: release and then um, with that flow water hits another

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Speaker 1: um where they end, say like they go into a

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Speaker 1: the Mississippi empties into the Gulf of Mexico. Where it

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Speaker 1: empties into the Gulf of Mexico. That's the mouth that's right.

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Speaker 1: And all of this water it moves downhill or uphill,

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Speaker 1: It moves towards the equator. The bulge in the earth

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Speaker 1: I will say that one time I was in a

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Speaker 1: are uh a lot of different things that can happen

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna all end up in the Mighty Mississippi

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Speaker 1: or that ocean and here they are. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: that's right. Uh. Infiltration is one of the big ones. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The rain falls on the dry ground. Obviously, water's gonna

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Speaker 1: uh um. And then that's going to move downhill through

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Speaker 1: that soil still UM into let's say an aquifer or something. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's um infiltration, right. Yeah. And sometimes it goes

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Speaker 1: And those um underwater rivers are pretty interesting. You've got

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Speaker 1: like a cave. But you also have underground rivers UM

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Speaker 1: rivers underneath rivers. Right. So you have a river bed.

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Speaker 1: All of the sediment and soil and dirt and um,

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Speaker 1: of the other ways that water can kind of flow

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Speaker 1: invisibly to us underneath the river through the ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and that infiltration and how that water flows, it

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Speaker 1: You know, it can only get so saturated, and then

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Speaker 1: parking lot. You do not like that song really, all right? Um,

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Speaker 1: you seem shy about admitting that I don't only to

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Speaker 1: that's great. Uh So, Anyway, what we've done is paved

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Speaker 1: Geological Service calls impermeable surfaces a fast lane for rain, water, stormwater, right,

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Speaker 1: and it is true. And the built environment definitely alters

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Speaker 1: that prevents it from ultimately going to its destination or

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Speaker 1: with that water. Yeah, Like if we drink it, tinkle

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Speaker 1: They're faster. Are you encouraging that? Nothing wrong with that? Man?

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about some of the other

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Speaker 1: things that can happen to water once it's the ground.

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Speaker 1: All right. So, um we teased everyone that other things

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Speaker 1: can happen to water. We can turn into wine, all right,

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Speaker 1: if you believe the Bible, it can evaporate and then

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Speaker 1: turn into rain part of the rain cycle. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: evaporation or just clouds. That's probably where we covered that

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Speaker 1: of it does go back up into the atmosphere through evaporation,

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Speaker 1: and that depends on how hot it is, a temperature, wind,

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Speaker 1: atmospheric pressure, a lot of other things. Then there's also transporation.

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite, is it. Yeah, we'll take it away.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, basically when you have plants, they're also taking

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Speaker 1: of that stuff. Uh. And in the meantime, it's time

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Speaker 1: for listener mail. I'm gonna call this kitty Genevese follow up. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: recently listened to that episode and had a few observations.

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Speaker 1: I've read much about the case before and have read

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Speaker 1: Abe Rosenthal's thirty eight witnesses account, but it never occurred

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Speaker 1: to me that I knew basically nothing about Miss Geneviez

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Speaker 1: other than how she died. Like you guys were saying,

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Speaker 1: you made that point and then made an effort to

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Speaker 1: add some color in her life, uh to her life.

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Speaker 1: I appreciated. That inspired me to watch the documentary The

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Speaker 1: witness which you recommend. Um. The documentary was heartrending knowing

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Speaker 1: more about Miss genevie Seeing the footage of her dancing

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Speaker 1: in the park with her friends made me really, really sad.

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Speaker 1: But like Josh, I struggled to see any common understanding

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Speaker 1: between Miss Geneviez's brother and Winston Moseley's son. That was

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Speaker 1: certainly a fascinating interaction to watch. Honestly, though, the final

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Speaker 1: that was I was gonna be corny and ended up

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Speaker 1: moving me. She was not moved. Now are this is us?

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Speaker 1: Don't know if it's a lady or dude could. But honestly, though,

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Speaker 1: the final scene with the screaming actress, such a very

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Speaker 1: bitter taste in my mouth left me feeling that a

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Speaker 1: good documentary had been finished with a tasteless hackey stunt

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Speaker 1: that achieved nothing. Um yeah, I could see I could

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Speaker 1: be taken that way, I guess. So that is from

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Speaker 1: Chris Downing in Sydney, Australia p S. I will balance

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Speaker 1: my commendation of that episode always love that PS. I'll

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Speaker 1: balance my commendation above with the observation that evil Kinevil

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Speaker 1: was not a man worthy of a double episode. But

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Speaker 1: I forgave you immediately for that. Yeah, that was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I remember like the look on our face faces when

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Speaker 1: we decided to make it too. Yeah. I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe it, but we plowed ahead. Yeah. I'll always say

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Speaker 1: Isaac Newton got one evil says a lot about us. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's the way it worked out. We still did one

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Speaker 1: on Isaac Newton. They'll get off our bats. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll do a part two one day on that even score. Uh.

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