1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: February two thousand four, Maura Murray empties her bank account, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: drives four hours from school, crashes her car, and vanishes. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Joined the search as an investigative reporter, uncovers new evidence 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: in terrogates new witnesses, traces down new leads in this 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: riveting new investigative series, The Disappearance of Maura Murray Saturday's 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: seven sixth Central and nine eight Central on Oxygen, The 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: new Network for Crying Clime Stories with Nancy Grace on 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: Sirius XM Triumph Channel one thirty two. You Know the Films, 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Shakespeare and Love, Goodwill, Hunting, Silver Linings, Playbook The Man 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Behind Them. Legendary Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein after multiple sexual 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: harassment allegations, movie mogul Harvey Weinstein has been forced out 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: of his own company. His movies have won a total 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: of seventy five oscars. Eight women, including actress Actually Judd, 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: forward to accuse Weinstein of sexual misconduct. At the Times 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: uncovered sexual harassment allegations that span almost three decades. The 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: film executive announced plans to take a book leave of 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: absence on the Famous Guys Very Uncomfortable, Right Now, Coming 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Now and one minute and if you want to leave 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: when the guy comes. I'm used today? Are you're used 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: to that? Will it never end? With Harvey Weinstein, the 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: very very powerful Hollywood movie director and executive head of Miramax, 22 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: head of the Weinstein Company, creating films such as The 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Crying Gang, Shakespeare and Love pulp Fiction. It goes on 24 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and on and on, sex, lies and video type. I mean, 25 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and another thing, why am I even bothering to list 26 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: his movie credits? Because he could have another kind of 27 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: credit pretty soon. It's called a rap shape. If these 28 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: allegations are true, I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories, 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: and I am so angry, upset, nause, just disappointed. As 30 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: now twenty nine different women repeat to nine twenty nine 31 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: claim that this Hollywood hit maker star maker, Harvey Weinstein 32 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted them or harassed them. Let me tell you something, 33 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Troice Slaton, veteran defense attorney, with me right now. You 34 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: show up without your clothes on and say will you 35 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: take a share with me? Uh? Number one, you're gonna 36 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: hold out a hand and pull back a nub, and 37 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: number two you're going to jail. But before I start 38 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: with you, Slayton, I also Welcome to Crime Stories, Alexis 39 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Terres chuck twenty nine? Did I get that number wrong? 40 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: And why isn't he And if these allegations are true, 41 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you say twenty nine, and I'm not trying to discount 42 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: what you said, but it just went up to thirty. 43 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: A brand new actress has just come out and said 44 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: that she was a victim of Harvey Weinstein's Also, you know, 45 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: by the time we're through with this hour, there will 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: probably be another one because Gloria already is in on 47 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: it now. And let me tell you something, that's who 48 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to have a fender bender width. Can 49 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: you imagine a hit running to somebody and outcomes Gloria already. 50 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: I would hide under the floor, Matt if I was 51 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: in that car. Gloria already is on it now. But 52 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: before I go off on Gloria already, I want to 53 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: get so now the numbers thirty, all right? Tell these 54 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: accusations start dating back to nineteen eighty four up until 55 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: around two two thousand fifteen, two thousand sixteen. That is 56 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: eighty four to nine to oh four oh four to fourteen. 57 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: That's over thirty years of sex assault, slash harassment, allegations. 58 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Alexis Torres, help me understand. It's not even just sex harassment, 59 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: as she said, it's rape. Multiple women have accused Harvey 60 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: mind Scene of raping him. They said they were young, 61 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: they wanted parts in Hollywood, and they were led to 62 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: believe that things would be safe with him because there 63 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: were other women that initially were around them. When they 64 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: would take meetings with this very powerful Hollywood producer, his 65 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: staff or assistance. There would be females and they would 66 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: all be together in a meeting that was strictly about 67 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: a career. Then miraculously these assistants would disappear. Harvey would 68 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: trick these women up into his hotel room, and that's 69 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: when he would pounce and attack them. Hold on right there, 70 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: Alexis Torres, Chuck, what you're describing is a repeated, according 71 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: to these ladies, a repeated scenario, and what we call 72 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: that under the law. Troy Slayton, veteran trial lawyer and 73 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: no stranger to the entertainment industry, Troy, that's what we 74 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: called a similar transact. And that's what it's called when 75 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: someone repeats the same behavior over and over and over, 76 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: so it becomes like a fingerprint. A common emo, modus operandi, 77 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: method of operation to show course of conduct, uh, frame 78 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: of mind scheme. That's what a similar transaction is. Now 79 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these cases, as I mentioned day back 80 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: to night four, and the statute some jurisdictions has run. However, 81 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: those cases, the older cases, can be brought in if 82 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: this goes to trial to bolster a new case where 83 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the statute has not run. Troyce Layton, that's true, and 84 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: what would otherwise be hearsay evidence or evidence of prior 85 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: bad acts could be brought in. But Nancy, what a 86 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of what alexis is describing? It may be untoward, 87 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: it may sound ikey, but if if too uh, people 88 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: of age over eighteen years old decide that they want 89 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: to engage in sexual relations with each other, even if 90 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: there was oh hey maybe I can you know, get 91 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: you in front of some people or something like that, 92 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: that is not necessarily a crime. None of these women have. 93 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Can I ask you something, Troy Slaighton, what part of 94 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein allegedly coming out of the bathroom button naked 95 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: with an erection, go and give me a massage and 96 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the woman runs out the door allegedly, what part of 97 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: that is consensual other than him. Well, we would depend 98 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: on the circumstances. Why a woman is going unaccompanied to 99 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: a man's hotel room. Uh, I've done it many times, 100 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: many many and what I have gone to a man's 101 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: hotel room to h Let's see, when I was covering 102 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: the Scott Peterson trial and I was away from home 103 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: for how long three six months? I got to tons 104 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: of colleagues hotel room and watch TV, would order rooms service. 105 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: When I was on the road with my h Len show, 106 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: my executive producer Dane and I we kicked back and 107 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: order stuff off room service and and watch TV until 108 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, I could go to sleep after a long 109 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: day reporting and in court. We did it all the time. 110 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I never thought anything about it. I certainly didn't expect 111 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: him to emerge from the bathroom buck naked with an 112 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: erection and ask for a massage. No, I didn't see 113 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: that coming. You're right, Well, look, if somebody is going 114 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: to expose themselves and it was that's a crime. That's 115 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a crime. I agree that would be a crime. But 116 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: if there's some sort of sexual relationship and it was 117 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: just on, hey, you know, um, I might let me 118 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: introduce you to this person later on, that is not 119 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: necessarily a crime. I don't know what you're saying. These women, 120 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: according to accounts, if they are true, many of them 121 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: were called Alexis. Let me come to you on this 122 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: before we go to our shrink. Joining me and boy, 123 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: do we need a shrink today? Dr Tiffany Sanders is 124 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: with us, a psychiatrist out off Chicago, also with me, 125 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: Alexis to rest Chuck from Radar online dot Com. The Duke, 126 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Alan Duke joining me out of l A Jackie here 127 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: in the studio with me and Troy Slayton, veteran trial 128 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: lawyer Alexis. Here's the deal. Okay, a woman Weinstein allegedly 129 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: would meet a woman. She could be an assistant, she 130 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: could be a secretary, she could be a model, she 131 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: could be an actress. And then suddenly this person, this 132 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: woman gets a call from a female with the Weinstein 133 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Company or Merrimax, and they set up a meeting to 134 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: discuss her future roles. Okay, she comes to the meeting, 135 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: there are women sitting around. All of a sudden, at 136 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: one by one they go to take a call or 137 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: they go to a meet, and all of a sudden, 138 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: the victim, the alleged victim is alone with Weinstein, and 139 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: that's when the bathrobe appears. Right, Zack, Right, It's a pattern. 140 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: It's the exact same set up for every alleged assault 141 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: that he did. He would lure these women into being 142 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: comfortable by having other women there because you know what, 143 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: all of these women said, they never expected it from Harvey, 144 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: because he was somebody who Gwyneth Paltrow a list star. 145 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: She won an oscar after her encounter. She said, I 146 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: thought of him as uncle Harvey, and she had a 147 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: mother and a father in the industry. She's basically Hollywood royalty. 148 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: With anybody, you would think that Harvey wouldn't try to 149 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: take advantage of be Gwyneth Paltrow. And you know what 150 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: he did. He manipulated these women into feeling safe and 151 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: then pounced on them. It's disgusting how many women he 152 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: did this too. Well, if you don't believe it, Troy Slayton, 153 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: take a listen to this. One actress actually raced to 154 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: the nyp D New York Police Department after she claims 155 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein sexually harassed her. She goes to police, she 156 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: tells them what he did, reaching his hand up her 157 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: skirt trying to par her, and they wire her. She 158 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: wears a wire and sees wine stain again and reportedly, 159 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: if this secret tape is to be believed, listen, I'm 160 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: telling you right now, what do we have to do here? 161 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Think I'm gonna take a shower. You sit there and 162 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: have a drink. Don't drink, and I stay on the bar. 163 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: You must have you now, Please, I'm not doing anything 164 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: like embarrassing. I'm sorry. I think yesterday was a kind 165 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: of aggressive for I need to know a person, don't 166 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: you think. Please? I swear I won't just sit with me. 167 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Don't embarrass me in the hotel here all the time? 168 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: Can you listen to me? I want to go downstairs. 169 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do You'll never see me again 170 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: at if you if you embarrassed me in this lit 171 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm not embarrassing you. It's just that I don't I 172 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: don't feel portable. I mean, you don't have a thing 173 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: with me. Please, I'm not going to do anything. I 174 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: swear my children please come in on everything. I'm a 175 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: famous guying very incomfortables coming now and one minute and 176 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: if you want to leave, when the guy comes with 177 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: my touch, my brace please, I'm sorry. Just come on, 178 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm used to that. You're used to that. No, but 179 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm not used to that again. Please, No, I don't 180 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: want to now a baron call me again. I'm sorry 181 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: right anything I know, but yes, I will never do 182 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: another thing to you. Five minutes. Don't win your friendship 183 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: with me for five minutes? Is it? I know, but 184 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's so much for you. Please, 185 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: you're making a big scene here, but I want to leaven. 186 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: Let me go out to psychologist from Chicago, Dr Tiffany Sanders. 187 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Dr Sanders, what do you make of that type recording 188 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: that we've just listened to Harvey Weinstein. Still she's saying, no, no, 189 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't want this. I don't want to go in there. 190 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: You touched my breasts yesterday. I didn't like that. And 191 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: he's trying to he says, he's not trying to say. 192 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: He says, don't waste your whole career over five minutes 193 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: with me in this room. You know, I was concerned 194 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: with his pressured tone, like he was like trying to 195 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: apologize and trying to make it amends of it. You know, 196 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know that's how I that's how I 197 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: always acted, and you know, trying to beg her in 198 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: core soor to come into the bathroom where it was 199 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: really very uh sad to listen, because when you hear 200 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: that sort of pressure speech, that's often an indicator as 201 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: someone struggles with the mental health issue. Uh can't diagnose 202 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: him and won't diagnose him, but that's really a hallmark sign. 203 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: And he's leaving allegedly to go to Europe for sex 204 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: addiction treatment and when you think about it, place he's 205 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: probably hold up right now at the Rits in Paris 206 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: sexual addiction treatment meetment. Come on, I mean to me, 207 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: this is just to weigh out Troy Slight. There is 208 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: nothing mentally wrong with him. He, if these accounts are true, 209 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: is just a bully that has taken advantage of one 210 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: woman after the next. And three women according to a 211 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: report by Ronan Pharaoh says that three women say they 212 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: were raped by Harvey wine Stein. Rape are ape. According 213 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: to these women, rape is wrong. Nancy, I can't defend rape, 214 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: but I do have to agree with Sears Fans Jr. 215 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: The d A in New York, who says that based 216 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: on that recording, there is no prosecution, There is no evidence, 217 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: and the d A is rejecting that case. Nancy, it's 218 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: not just based on that recording, it's based on her 219 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: testimony as to what happened then. I before there was 220 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean Troy Slayton. If I said to you, Troy, Troy, 221 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't want you on the I don't want you 222 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: on my serious show because you remember that time you 223 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: grab my breast, you wouldn't go don't worry about it. 224 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: You'd say, what that didn't happen. That never happened. He 225 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: never said that, Troy, he never said that. It corroborates 226 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: what she says happened the night before. That is a crime. 227 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: If it's true, that's a crime. And she was so 228 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: victimized and so upset with it that she's back up 229 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: in his hotel room the next day. Uh with wearing 230 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: a police wire. She's wearing a police wire. That's why 231 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: she's back. Alexis explained what happened with this woman. So 232 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: she meets Harvey Weinstein, he and she claims you don't. 233 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: He of course promises her a job in the industry. 234 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: He can put her in movies, make her famous. She 235 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: goes to his hotel room, he attacks her, She is 236 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: so upset by this. She is basically, as far as 237 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: we know, as far as everybody has said so far, 238 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: she is the first person to go to the police, 239 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and she does it promptly. The police work with her. 240 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: They set her up with a wire so that she 241 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: can record Harvey admitting that he groped her, that he 242 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: grabbed her against her wishes. So she goes back to 243 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: meet with him. She's wearing the wire. She gets him 244 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: on tape. It is the most chilling tape. It's terrifying 245 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: to hear this band admit what he's done to her. 246 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: And she turns it over to the cops. Within one week, 247 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: they decide to drop the case. The district attorney down. 248 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: Oh my, that was an extensive investigation. Hold on alexis 249 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: What about Rose meg Allen? What does she say happen 250 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: to her? Rose McCallen claims that she was raped by 251 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein. She claimed it happened in his hotel room. 252 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: She has never actually said his name. She reportedly signed 253 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: a deal with him. He gave her one hundred thousand 254 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: dollars after she complained about the assault. She says she 255 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: donated that money to a rape center to help other victims, 256 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: but she has been aggressive in her last couple of 257 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: weeks of claiming talking about her rape, and she says 258 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: that she says, imagine this big man, this huge man, 259 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: he's so imposing, attacking you. She says, in that one second, 260 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: your life is not yours. The path that you had 261 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: chosen for your life is completely taken away from you. 262 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: She says she was attacked by him, and then she 263 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: was forced to go to a press conference with him 264 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: because he was doing her movie. She said Ben Affleck 265 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: was there and that then knew what had happened to her. 266 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: All of these people were, she claims, were complicit in 267 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: the cover up for all of these years. And she 268 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: says that she had no recourse, she could do nothing 269 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: about it, and in fact, she made a movie with 270 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: her husband. Years later, her husband sold that movie to 271 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein's company. She said, basically she felt revictimized all 272 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: over again. You know, I've dealt with so many rape victims, 273 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: and they're not Angelina Jolie, they're not Ande Paltrow, they're 274 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: not famous like Rose McGowan. But they were mistreated, they 275 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: were victimized. Dr Tiffany Sanders with me. Psychologists out of Chicago. 276 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, you live through a rape physically, but you're 277 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: never the same, doctor Nancy. These individuals are not the same. 278 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: They're they're dealing with the trauma. They replayed the scene 279 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: over and over again, thinking what could I have done 280 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: to have gotten away from it? And it's not their fault. 281 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean that person at Harvey Weinstein. He preyed upon 282 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: these young ladies. And they were young, they were impressionable. 283 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: They thought that they were at fault for some reason. 284 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Some of the women have said. So for these women, 285 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: the reminder, they feel dirty, they feel soiled, and he 286 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: did it repeatedly. He prayed on these young impressional girls, 287 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: impressionable girls around twenty two to twenty five years of age. 288 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: And and even if you're you know, famous, like one 289 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: of Paltrow, it didn't matter. He had It's almost like 290 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: he was. It was sick me. It's almost like he 291 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: really went after these girls. And it's just unfathomable, unfathomable. 292 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you why I believe them now these 293 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: if these allegations are true, this is why I believe them. 294 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: Alexa Stress, Chuck number one. They many of them, almost 295 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: all of them, made an immediate, as we say in 296 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: the law outcry. That means they told somebody at the time, 297 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: whether it was their parents, their boyfriend, their roommates, they 298 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: told somebody at the time what happened. That means now, 299 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: all these years later, they're telling the same story. It's 300 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: very likely true. Number Two, money settlements. Weinstein allegedly has 301 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars to make these 302 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: people be quiet, make these women go away. Somebody accused 303 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: me of rape, I would certainly not pay out a settlement. 304 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: I would fight it in collect say this is not true. 305 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: Number two, The similar the similar nature of all the claims. 306 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: These women are separated in time and space. How do 307 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: they know what one is going to say, but yet 308 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: all the facts are the same. It shows his modus operendi, 309 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: modus operandi, the way he makes these attacks happen, allegedly, 310 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: and also his enablers, the people that worked with him, 311 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: they knew what was going on. Several of them allegedly 312 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: say it made them sick to have to facilitate what 313 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: he was doing to young women. This goes back allegedly 314 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty four. Before I tell you the rest 315 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: of the allegations against Harvey Weinstein, the Hollywood big that 316 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: is now accused of multiple acts of sexual predator, including 317 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: three allegations that he has raped to people, and we're 318 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: waiting for more to appear. I want to thank our 319 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: partner that is making this very important program possible, and 320 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: it is a legal Zoom. When you run your own business, 321 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, time equals money. That's not just an old saying, 322 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: it's true. 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He 341 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: shooes them away, He tells them to go um, and 342 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: he says, let me walk you through. And we walked 343 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: through this kitchen into um like a vestibule where they 344 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: were like bathrooms and a hallway, and the door out 345 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to this restaurant was locked. It was closed, and that's 346 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: where he cornered me in this vestibule and um leaned 347 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: in and tried to kiss me, which I immediately rebuffed 348 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: and said, whoa, whoa, whoa. I had no idea that 349 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: that's what this was. I'm sorry. You know, I have 350 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: a very serious boyfriend and I'm not interested, and I 351 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: thought it would end there, but that's when he blocked 352 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: the entrance or exit for me and said, well, then 353 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: just stand there and be quiet. And that's when I realized, oh, 354 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: did you know what was about to happen? No idea, 355 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: no idea. I was completely shocked, and yet, what is 356 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: going to happen? Like stand up and stand there and 357 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: be quiet. I had no idea what was going to happen, 358 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: and it it happened very quickly, and he immediately um 359 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: exposed himself and you know, began pleasuring himself. And I 360 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: just stood there, dumbfounded. What are you thinking in this moment? 361 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: I was so shocked. I could not believe what I 362 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: was witnessing. Could not believe what I was witnessing. It 363 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: was disgusting and kind of pathetic really to stand there 364 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: and look at this man, you know, but more than 365 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: the disgusting act itself, which of course was gross, um, 366 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the the demeaning part of it all that that just, 367 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, twenty minutes earlier, he was having this great 368 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: conversation with me, and I felt so great and flattered, 369 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: A buy it and then stand there and be quiet 370 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: just a few minutes later just negated any any warm 371 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: feelings I had, and I realized, oh, that's what this 372 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: was all about. When he was done, you say he finished? 373 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: When he was done? Were their words exchanged? He finished, 374 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: and I said, can I go? Now? I was pretty 375 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: annoyed at that point that he had and what he 376 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: said blocked my way and he said, yes, let's go, 377 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: let's both go. Did you think it all in the 378 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: moment about getting out of there, pushing past him while 379 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: it was happening. The truth is, um, yes, I mean, 380 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: if I think back, I could have pushed past him. 381 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very he's a large man, and 382 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: so he was blocking the entrance. But I mean, I 383 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: think if my life was threatened, I absolutely would have 384 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: been able to fight my way out. But the shock 385 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: of what I was watching just kind of makes you frozen. 386 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: How long did it last? It was? I remember being 387 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: relatively quickly. Um, I don't remember it going on that long. 388 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: I was surprised, you know, I was like thinking that 389 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: I should go. I don't, you know, I don't know 390 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: what to do. Back to Alexis tres Chuck with Radar 391 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Online dot Com, you know, alexis one woman. Lauren O'Connor 392 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: sends a scathing email to executives and colleagues within Mirraormax 393 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: and the Weinstein Company, outlining sexual harassment and a toxic 394 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: work situation. One alleged victim rights a screenplay all Right 395 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: about Weinstein allegedly attacking her sexually. An the woman goes 396 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: to nyp D and agrees to wear a wire to 397 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: catch Harvey Weinstein. What more does it take, Alexis, do 398 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: I have to take out an ad on Third Avenue? 399 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein is a sex predator? I mean, if these 400 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: women are telling the truth, what else did it that 401 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: has to be done to get a prosecution? This district 402 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: attorney spent approximately zero time researching this case. They investigigated 403 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: it quote unquote investigated for one week, and they said 404 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: that the evidence just wasn't there to Convictorvy Weinstein. Meanwhile, 405 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: the Special Victims Unit, not just the TV show, the 406 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: real Special Victims Unit said everything that they did was 407 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: so by the book. They felt like they had rock 408 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: solid evidence. They handed it over to the d A. 409 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: They did everything they could. This is the cops did 410 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: everything right. This victim, alleged victim, if you will, did 411 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: everything right. In the district attorney still ignored it and 412 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: let Harvey Weinstein go. Harvey Weinstein has and arguably the 413 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: most powerful man in Hollywood for the last thirty years. 414 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: He has fingers in every business that there is. He 415 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: has friends in the media, he has friends in Hollywood, 416 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: and he managed to get these stories squashed for decades 417 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: about him, and it looks like he even managed to 418 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: get the d A to roll over and not prosecute him. 419 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: The other day, stage actor Nathan Lane outlined an incident 420 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: that he had with Harvey Wine, saying not of a 421 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: sexual nature, but a disturbing incident. He basically said, Lane, 422 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: who I have loved ever since bird Cage, Okay, I'll 423 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: never forget. Laugh until I cried at that. He said this, 424 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't have a film career. I can say the truth. 425 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm with you, Nathan Lane. I 426 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: don't have a film career, so I can say the 427 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: truth as I see it. And the truth is, if 428 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: these women are telling the truth, then there needs to 429 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: be a criminal prosecution. And let me ask you this choice. 430 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Light and you're the veteran trial lawyer, defense attorney out 431 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: in l A. Troy. We've got one woman from christ Church, 432 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: New Zealand. You've got another woman and several women from Europe. 433 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: You've got women from l A, You've got women from 434 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: New York. How do they all get together and then 435 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: collude with Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Julie and Rose McGowan. 436 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: How they all get together and come with the same 437 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: m Oh, Troy, isn't that quite the coinkie think? Well, 438 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: it's interesting, Nancy, that you're saying that all of these 439 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: incidents date back to the mid eighties and here it 440 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: is in seventeen and we're just hearing about it now, 441 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: and so you know, a lot of people might be 442 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: coming out of the woodwork hearing what others are saying 443 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: and trying to get in on any potential settlements. In fact, 444 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: Lauria Alread, his is asking trying to shame uh Harvey 445 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: Weinstein into into waving the statute of limitations that if 446 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: these stories are true, he should be a shame. You're 447 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: trying to shame him. I think it's not so much, 448 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: Gloria that it should make him a shame, but the 449 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: three counts of alleged ray should be a little embarrassing. 450 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: And what is he talking about Gloria already allegedly shaming, 451 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: which I disagree with. Laton Alexis toss Chuck Well. Gloria Alread, 452 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: during her press conference called on Harvey Wine, said, Harvey, Look, 453 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: there are so many cases out there, women that have 454 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: come forward with their names. Women that have not revealed 455 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: their names, but they've reached out to lawyer. She said, 456 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: they are going to be so many cases against you. 457 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: I am calling on you to do one of two things. 458 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: Enter into confidential mediation with these women, or enter into 459 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: arbitration where you would go in front of a judge, 460 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: you would present your side, these women would present their side, 461 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: and then a judge would decide what happened. She said. 462 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: She was challenging him basically to do the right thing. 463 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: She says, if you're vindicated, then you're vindicate it. If 464 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: you're saying that you didn't do any of this, then 465 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: an impartial judge will decide if you are guilty of it, 466 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: then you need to take responsibility and basically pay up, because, 467 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: as she said, the statute of limitations has passed on 468 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: so many of these cases in so many states, and 469 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: so she wants Harvey Weinstein to step up and do 470 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: the right thing. You know, it's it's bigger than that, 471 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: I believe Troy Slaton, because if these accounts are true, 472 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: than the Weinstein Company and Mirrimax are on the hook 473 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: because they knew what was going on and even facilitated it. 474 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Come on. As soon as these allegations went public, four 475 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: of the eight all male board members left the Weinstein company. Coincidence. Now, 476 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: if this is true, Nancy, then they better hope that 477 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: their business liability insurance is really the premiums have been 478 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: paid because they are not kidding for a lot of money. 479 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, just go with me, Troy, and I know 480 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: you're defending Weinstein, and all of these at this juncture 481 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: are allegations that have not been proven in a court 482 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: of law. It's hard not to believe it with now 483 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: thirty women claiming basically the same scenario. And I mean, 484 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: is what is Gwyneth Paltrow says the same thing. She 485 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: tells The New York Times that Weinstein touched her inappropriately 486 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: and suggested having joint massages in the bedroom before she 487 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: started shooting Emma she had. She gave an outcry, as 488 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: we call it in the law to her then boyfriend 489 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, and he confronted Weinstein. I mean, if he 490 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: will allegedly confirmed he confirmed through his reps that he 491 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: did confront Harvey Weinstein. Dr Tiffany Sanders joining me out 492 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: of Chicago. If he would dare to allegedly do that 493 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: to a star like Gwyneth Paltrow, What do you think 494 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: he'll do? Just some receptionists answering the phone attempt from 495 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: an agency, What's gonna happen to her? Absolutely his he 496 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: has his abuse of the power of powers is problematic, Nancy. 497 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: And he has no shame, no guilt, no remorse. And 498 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: he repeatedly does these actions over and over and over again. 499 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: He's not thinking of any consequences. How is emotionally impacting 500 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: his victims. He moves on to the next prey, makes 501 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: the next big movie, and then goes on about life. 502 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: Mary's a beautiful woman, makes millions of dollars with no 503 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: thought of any repercussions. And I'm very happy to see 504 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: that this is finally coming from light because these victims 505 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: really need to have their voices heard and someone advocate 506 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: for them. Let me ask you something, Troit. I'm gonna 507 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: take off my prosecution and crime victim hat, and you 508 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: take off your defense attorney hat, and let's say analysis 509 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: for real, what's the likelihood that any criminal prosecution is 510 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: going to have? You know, there are jurisdictions where there 511 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: is no statute of limitations on ripe. New York City 512 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: is one of those, and the law recently changed in 513 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: California to eliminate the statue of limitations for rape. And 514 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: so the short answer is, I don't know. I don't 515 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: know what evidence would be admissible. Of course, the habit 516 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: and routine evidence of the prior bad acts could be 517 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: brought in. Uh. He's certainly not clear of criminal legal jeopardy. 518 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: But as far as him waving his rights, uh, with 519 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: regard to the statue of limitations, I don't see that happening. 520 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Regardless of what Gloria already is saying. You know, alexis 521 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: when I read some of these accounts. Oh hey, speaking 522 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: of Gloria already, take a listen to what Gloria tells us. 523 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: A number of accusers have contacted me about their allegations, 524 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: but I've had to inform them that the statute of limitation, 525 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: that arbitrary time period set by law has expired and 526 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: is therefore too late for them to assert a legal claim. 527 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Mr Weinstein could, however, decide that he would like to 528 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: resolve these allegations and wave and agree not to assert 529 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: the statute of limitations. That is exactly what we believe 530 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: that he should do. Mr Weinstein may believe that some 531 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: of these claims are false, or he may believe that 532 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: some are true. He may believe that he has not 533 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: had his day in court on these allegations, and that 534 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: he has not been treated fairly. Many women who allege 535 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: that they are his victims feel the same way. I 536 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: believe that there is a way to provide justice for 537 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: these alleged victims and for Mr Weinstein. I am inviting 538 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: him to agree to engage in an arbitration of these claims. 539 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: With these alleged victims and with an agreed upon retired judge. 540 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: The women could present their claims of sexual harassment, and 541 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: Mr Weinstein can present his defense. If the judge finds 542 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: in favor of the victims, the judge could award damages 543 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: according to proof at trial. If Mr Weinstein prevails, he 544 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: would be able to announce the result to the public. 545 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: In the alternative, he could also agree to a confidential mediation. 546 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: This is a process to resolve these claims. This proposal 547 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: is similar to what I suggested to Bill Cosby. He 548 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: was not wise enough, however, to accept my invitation to 549 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: resolve the allegations against him. Will Mr Weinstein accept the 550 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: offer of a process that is fair to him and 551 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: will help to provide a system of justice to his accusers. 552 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: There is an actress that says she was called to 553 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: a late night meeting with Weinstein in two thousand eight 554 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: and many places assests within the statute. He led Tolie 555 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: emerged and guess what a bathrob and told her he 556 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: would green light her and maybe script if she watched him. 557 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: Let's see, how should I say this on a public station? 558 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Um pleasure himself? Sheilla aft the mating take a listen 559 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: to it. Louise sett Guiss has to say. I first 560 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: met Harvey Weinstein at the Cannes Film Festival. I next 561 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: saw him at the Sundance Film Festival in two thousand eight. 562 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: He invited me to his premiere of Where in the 563 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: World as Osama bin Laden. After the premiere, he asked 564 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: me about my music company and the script that I 565 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: had written and was pitching at the festival. We agreed 566 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: to meet at the hotel restaurant we were where we 567 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: both were staying. When we arrived, we were asked to 568 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: leave shortly after at the restaurant as they were closing. 569 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: Harvey then offered to reconvene the meeting in his office, 570 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: which was adjacent to his hotel room. M Obviously, I 571 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: was hesitant. I had heard some stories previously about Harvey's 572 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: behavior with women. So there was a hotel security camera 573 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: right above us, and I said to him, I will 574 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: take this meeting with you if you will shake my 575 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: hand that you will not touch me. And he shook 576 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: my hand and kind of laughed it off. We went 577 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: to his office and we had a great conversation about 578 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: his current film and the film that I was kitching. 579 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: He seemed genuinely interested and I was excited. After about 580 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: thirty minutes, he asked to excuse himself and go to 581 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: the bathroom. He returned in nothing but a robe with 582 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: the front open, and he was buck naked. He told 583 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: me to keep talking about my film and that he 584 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: was going to hop into his hot tub that was 585 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: adjacent to the room, just steps away. When I finished 586 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: my pitch, I was obviously nervous and just kept asking 587 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: me to watch him masturbate. I told him I was leaving. 588 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: He quickly got it out of the tub and grabbed 589 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: my forearm as I was trying to grab my purse, 590 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: and he led me to his bathroom, pleading that I 591 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: just watched him masturbate. My heart was racing and I 592 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: was very scared. I pulled my arm away finally and 593 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: headed to the door. He started following me and telling 594 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: me that he could introduce me to Bob Wine scene 595 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: and that I could get a three picture deal and 596 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 1: that he would green light my script. But I had 597 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: to watch him masturbate. I was on the very verge 598 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: of tears, but I pulled it together and quickly exited. 599 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: I told my sister, and I told a good friend 600 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: of mine immediately after, and over the years when people 601 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: asked me why I got out of the movie industry, 602 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: I would tell them this story. Even though my parents 603 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: raised me to be a strong and independent woman, I 604 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: never ever, ever thought that I would have any chance 605 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: to stand up for myself against Harvey Weinstein. I knew 606 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: if I said anything that he would have a ton 607 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: of lawyers on my on my back, and no one 608 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: would trust me over him. I know I'm not special. 609 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: I know that this has happened to many women, and 610 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: it's the fear and pain of sexual harassment that is 611 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: released on one's mind, body, and soul that I'm trying 612 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: to stop. Sexual harassment has become commonplace in the entertainment industry. 613 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: And to be fair, most women that I now have 614 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: a story about being sexually harassed or abused in this business. 615 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: I am only now feeling confident enough to come forward. Okay, 616 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: I got another one, and it's not jess Rose McGowan 617 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: and Gwyneth Paltrow. Angelina Jolie, who is now known around 618 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: the world for her good works and humanitarian positions. Jolie 619 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: told The Times she had to turn down advanced sex 620 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: advances from Harvey Weinstein, and that she chose then to 621 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: never work with him again. She said she warned other 622 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: women about Weinstein. Now she had the luxury of not 623 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: having to work with him, But a lot of women 624 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: across this country don't have the luxury. If they want 625 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: to put food on the table, they have to put 626 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: up with this kind of crap, this kind of criminal 627 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: activity allegedly. I'm thankful that Jolie, after all she has 628 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: lived through in her life. Yeah, I know she's beautiful. 629 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: I know she's got this beautiful family and all this money. 630 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: She's lived through a lot. Okay, I'm glad you did 631 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: had the choice not to have to work with him. 632 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: A lot of women don't have that choice. Look around, 633 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: Look around, Think of the people you know in your life. Statistically, 634 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: one in four, some studies say, one in five women 635 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: have been sexually attacked, have been sexually harassed, have been 636 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted. You know them. They may have never told you, 637 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: You may not know who they are, but you're around 638 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: them every day. And I pray to God my daughter 639 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: and son never have to endure the life long shame 640 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: and revulsion and sometimes self loathing that sex victims have 641 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: to live with the rest of their lives. We're waiting 642 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: on justice, and we're waiting to find out if these 643 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: allegations are true. Okay, grab some popcorn, getting your favorite spot, 644 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: feed the cat and the dog, and join me Sunday 645 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: Night on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries for the third installment 646 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: of Halley Dean Murder Mystery. It's called Dating is Murder 647 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: and Joining me right Now. Special guest co executive producer 648 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: of the movie Josh Sabera, also best selling author Josh. 649 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, Thank you for having me. Hey, 650 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: Alan the Deep, joining me out of l a roll. 651 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: Some sound from this Sunday Night's movie. Give me a 652 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: sneak peek still here. I had to be the one 653 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: to break you to you. But you're honey, bun just 654 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: made a run for it. I know I thinks I'm 655 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: waiting for someone else, waiting for someone else. Wow, you 656 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: sure don't waste any time, you know. I've heard about 657 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: women like you. You get a guy, but you're always 658 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: on the lookout for the better deal. Right, No, it's 659 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: it's not what it looks like. I'm sure it's not. 660 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: You know what. You don't have to explain to me, honey, 661 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: I've heard it all. Well, you must have already met 662 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: your prince. What Mr Wright, you know you're signor Well? 663 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of Mr Right, here comes the next one. Wow, 664 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: you could use a revolving door, maybe even a conveyor belt, 665 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: but I can tell you from fifty ft Awaite, that 666 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: is not Mr Right. Thanks for your help, Hi, Margharite? 667 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Does to please? Sure Margarite is? I'll make yours a 668 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: double on the house? Oh? Thank you, Josh. What is 669 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: the premise of dating is murder? Well, it's basically uh 670 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: focuses on Hailey Dean having to um put herself in 671 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: the pathway of Dane You're at this time in order 672 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: to catch the killer. Because okay, you know what, Josh, 673 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 1: break it down. Have you ever met anybody online? Don't 674 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 1: don't lie? Okay, just just tell me and uh from 675 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: what I recall if you're let me just say colorful history. 676 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: Some worked out and some didn't correct. Would that be 677 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: fair to say? To say? But none of them turned 678 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: out to be serial killers? And that, sadly is what 679 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: Haley is up again. Well, not that we know of, Josh, 680 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: not that we know of You know, you're so picky. 681 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: You could have gotten rid of a serial killer without 682 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: even knowing it. You could maybe you didn't like the 683 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: way you looked or rewalked or whatever. Long story short 684 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: been a shame. Isn't that a shame? If if, if 685 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: I let the good one go? But my point is, 686 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: so many people, I mean, it's so common. Now, how 687 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: did you guys meet online? You know for a long 688 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: time that people will be embarrassed. They're not embarrassed, and 689 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be embarrassed. Oh no, it's become you know, 690 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: it's become more um, it's become more you know, acceptable, 691 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: socially acceptable to meet somebody through an online app or 692 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: even through social media than it is to meet somebody 693 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: at a bar. I mean people are no are no 694 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: longer happy to say either that you know, I met 695 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: I met him at a bar, sitting on a bar 696 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: stool next to me. So I think now it's very 697 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: commonplace for people to be using apps like, you know, 698 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: similar to match dot com or okay, Cupid or plenty 699 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: of Fish. I mean there's so many of them now, 700 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: tender um. And so in this movie, um, you know, 701 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: somebody who an acquaintance of Hayley Dean's um meet somebody 702 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: online and uh, it doesn't go well, let's just leave 703 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: it that. Now here's a little tidbit that nobody knows 704 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: when Josh and No we're working on the screenplay, and 705 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: these characters come from uh the novel my novels on 706 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: Haley Dean, a prosecutor turned therapist. Um, when we were 707 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: working on screenplay, I mean it's pretty obvious Halley has 708 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: to Helly Dean has to go onto the website and 709 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: start dating people, start meeting them to try to figure 710 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: out which one could be a killer. And I had 711 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: written in all these scenes uh that are from true life, 712 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: Like one woman has a date from online and the 713 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 1: guy picks his nose all the way through dinner. Okay, 714 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Jackie here in this studio was just like 715 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: holding holding her face. Yeah, I mean a real excavation. 716 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: It was an archaeological excavation into his nose, all right. 717 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: For some reason, hallmart xna that why, I don't know. Okay. 718 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: Then I had one. I wrote one in where she 719 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: has his dinner and the guy was like talking about 720 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 1: how he saved money all the time. Then he leaves 721 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom and they leave her with 722 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: he leaves her with a check and leaves. Okay, that 723 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 1: one somehow ended up on the editing floor. But I 724 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: had all these awesome, awful dates, Josh. Do you remember 725 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: all the dates that we came up with that I 726 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: absolutely loved. But for the sake of brevity, they have 727 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: to cut some of them out. Well, and not just brevity, 728 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: but we're telling them their serious story here. I know. 729 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: But you didn't like the booger scene. Well, I mean, 730 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: I come on, Josh, it was an awesome moment in 731 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: TV movie history. Come on, Okay, maybe next time we'll 732 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: save that. And that's what what would have punched the 733 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: AMBI for sure. Hey, you know what is you like 734 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: to say? Let's put a pin in that. Maybe we'll 735 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: use it next time. So the point of the movie 736 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: is it's a thriller. It's a thriller about can she 737 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: catch a killer before he kills again or kills her. 738 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: But there is another note to this, and it's about 739 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: online safety. All are joking aside, it's about online safety 740 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: and dating safety online, Josh. So some of those safety 741 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: tips are. First of all, don't include a surname or 742 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: any reference to your workplace or your school name okay, 743 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: because anybody can find you whether you want them to 744 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: or not. Don't give out your name, your full name, 745 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: your location, your real phone number, information that a creep 746 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: could use to track you down. Don't have somebody call 747 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: you on a friend's number. That can be just as 748 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: dangerous as giving out your own number. Stop all communications 749 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 1: if someone doesn't respect those boundaries or they insist on 750 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: this personal information too soon. Be careful of the photos 751 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: you post. Do not post photos with your license plate 752 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,959 Speaker 1: showing the outside of your home, your mailbox, or surroundings 753 00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: that can identify your location. And all of these have 754 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: been highlighting on our website crime online dot com. Subtle 755 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: but important tips for online safety and that's the tip 756 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: of the iceberg. Agree or disagree, Josh, well, I totally agree, 757 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: having having having been dating online myself at one time. 758 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: So yes, so you're off the market. I didn't say 759 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: one way or the other. I just said at one 760 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: time I dated online. Man of Mystery. Okay, guys, I 761 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 1: know this, you're a mysterious but I know where you're 762 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 1: going to be on Sunday night at nine o'clock. That's 763 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: October fifteen, Sunday night. You're gonna be right in front 764 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: of the TV watching the movie Dating as Murder along 765 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: with me. I'm sure you'll have a fat free, gluten free, 766 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: blah blah blah free snack. I will be showing down 767 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: on caramel popcorn. I had to buy like ten bags 768 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 1: of it from John David's Boy Scouts l And you 769 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: know what, I'm all against wasting food. Okay, that's wrong. 770 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be having that all ten bags of it 771 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: in front of the TV set Sunday night. Guys, come 772 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: join us Hallmark Movies and Mysteries Sunday Night, Dating as Murder. 773 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: I really hope you can join. 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