1 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. Late Kick is Live. It is 2 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Thursday night. 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: It is August thirteenth, the year of our Lord, twenty twenty. 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: What a concept on the air right here at the 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: top of the hour, just like the good old days. Colin, 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: remember when we used to do this. Yeah, the Sunday 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: night show was a disaster. We've apologized for it. I've 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: explained myself and if you want a really in depth explainer, 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: go listen to this week's edition of the Late Kick 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: Extra podcast. And that is the last time we will 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: ever talk about the Sunday night edition of Late Kick. 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: We do have hopefully a very clean version of the 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: show for you tonight. I'm going to deliver as best 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: I can the very latest intel, whispers, etc. That we've 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: been hearing about the college football season. Think we probably 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: have hit a pause button for just a second, so 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: we had a lot of craziness Sunday, Monday Tuesday. Well, 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: now maybe a little bit of a reprieve, and then 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: we'll probably have a second edition of Roller Coaster Hills 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: coming up. We are also going to talk about something 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: that I have to talk about the future of college football, 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 2: and then also something that I have to talk about 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: because you have essentially forced me to. 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I see George is in. 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: Here with that little Gator logo next to his name. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Appropriate because we got to talk about Florida tonight. You know, 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: I have set behind this microphone and a number of 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: times and very forceful manners, I have said, Florida's got 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: to pick it up in recruiting, Like they're good, but 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: they got to pick it up in recruiting, or how 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: am I going to expect them to win an SEC championship? Well, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: between then and now, Florida's kind of well, I don't know, 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: picked it up in recruiting. All that, plus some questions 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: that may or may not be moot by seasons end, 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 2: how should the college football playoff happen? 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna. 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: Just kind of hit a pause button and let's just assume, 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: for the sake of the argument that we'll have towards 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: the end of the show, that the remaining three, the 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: Big Twelve, the SEC, the ACC you we're going to 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: talk all that in a second. Let's just say they 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: get through a season. How should you handle a college 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: football playoff? Absent two of the Power five conferences? We'll 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: talk about all that, So let's dive into it. This 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: stuff changes by the minute. But the very latest intel 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: that we have in the world of college football right now, 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: this is certainly not a recap show. 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: This is Late Cack Live. 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, it is August thirteenth, and right 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: now it is seven oh three pm Central Standard time. 51 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: By the time we go off the air, maybe things change. 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: I don't think they will, But we're not going to 53 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: recap what's happened this week. I think anyone who knows 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: how to find this show probably understands what all has 55 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: happened this week. Big ten postpone the season. You could 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: insert the word cancel if you want to. That's kind 57 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: of what I've chosen to do. The Pac twelve, like 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: a child whose father yells across the playground it's time 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: to go home, follows the Big Ten. 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: They also have postponed their season. And so now we 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: have the SEC, the Big twelve, and the ACC four now. 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Saying hey, we're in this and are thus far our 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: medical advisory folks have not told us that we need 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: to cancel the season, and so until they do, we're 65 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: going to soldier ons. 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: So two out three still in. 67 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: I expect it to remain that way for a little while, 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: and we'll have a couple of more hurdles. 69 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about both those in just a second. 70 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: You guys know, I don't know how much you were 71 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: able to hear Sunday night when we discussed it, So 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I'll kind of reiterate. I've been talking since May about 73 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: that old five ninety five rule. I've talked about it 74 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: so much I'm tired of listening to me talk about it. 75 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not really going to go down this road 76 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: a whole lot. But i will say this for everyone 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: who listened to that and everyone who was tweeting me 78 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: about it over and over again over the last several. 79 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: Months, this was it. 80 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: This was not just some fancy little saying that we 81 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: wanted to take as our own. The five ninety five 82 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: rule was on full display, the five ninety five rules 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: quite simply this. It was readily apparent to anyone who's 84 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: been paying attention to this nonsense that in a lot 85 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: of corners of the country, there were precious few people 86 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: that were either equipped or willing to take stands and 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: make decisions, who were, unfortunately in the positions that leaders 88 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: are normally in the five percent. 89 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: We're willing. 90 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: The ninety five percent were willing to sit back and 91 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: wait on someone else to make a move. And how 92 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: do you know that, Well, take a look at how 93 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: things unfolded. I think a lot of people in the 94 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: Big ten were rubbed the wrong way, not just because 95 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: their season got postponed well before. You probably need to 96 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: make a call on it. Listen if if they had 97 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: given you guidance this entire time, says very doubtful we're 98 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: going to have a season, and then Kevin Warren and 99 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: everyone had walked together to a podium and lockstep, arms crossed. Well, 100 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: I guess six feet apart, given the current set of circumstances, 101 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: and they were to have told you, we just can't 102 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: get it done. That's why we didn't release a schedule 103 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: to you, we can't get it done. It would have 104 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: been one thing, but alas, that's not how things went down. 105 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: And so what ended up happening, and a perfect illustration 106 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: of the kind of garbage that can end up occurring 107 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: when you have the five ninety five rule in effect, 108 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: is you could have a conference, you could have a 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: league office, you could have a conference network. 110 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Not only release and promote the release of. 111 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: A schedule, Well you can have that same conference six 112 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: days later, not even a full calendar week, look you 113 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: in the eye, and not only postpone that season that 114 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: they released a schedule for. But in their own words, 115 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: folks tell you that it was abundantly clear, quote unquote 116 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: that they needed to make that move. That is the 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: five ninety five rule. There were three conferences still out 118 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: there that were wise enough to think independently, and that 119 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: got us over really the first hurdle, because if you 120 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: think about this, what we have discussed a lot, especially 121 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: over the past month, as you start to get closer 122 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: to a decision date, was is it going to be 123 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: one domino equals five dominoes on the power five level 124 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: or are these conferences going to make their own decisions? Now, 125 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 2: it was pretty widely assumed, and it came to fruition 126 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: that this was the case, that the big ten in 127 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve were going to be one and the same, 128 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: and that's happened. The big question mark was Okay, well, 129 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: if two of those go down, I mean, are the 130 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: other three just inevitably going to follow? Not yet, And 131 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: I do believe that while it is certainly a possibility 132 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: that ultimately no one plays college football this year. I 133 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: don't think those decisions will have been linked nearly as 134 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: much as we previously thought they may be. So the 135 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: first hurdle we have an answer to. It is not 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: one domino falls. They all fall. Now over the last 137 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: couple of days. What have we been hearing the very latest, 138 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: at least from our end, is this Those final three, 139 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: the final sec acc Big twelve, the final one standing here. 140 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: They are very committed to playing a season. 141 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: They are conscious of the fact that we got to 142 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: continuously update our data and intel, and we got to 143 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: listen to the proper experts in the room. But they 144 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: are very, very committed to playing, and there is legitimate 145 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: optimism in those circles. A lot of folks out there, 146 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: I think, are still of the opinion, and you may 147 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: well end up being right. I'm on the fence here, 148 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: but I'm telling you a lot of you are of 149 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: the opinion that two of them already canceled. 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: It's only a matter of time till the other three do. 151 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: I may end up happening. What I can tell you 152 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: right now again, it is August thirteenth. What I can 153 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: tell you is on August thirteenth. There is optimism that 154 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 2: they're going to get a season off the ground. Getting 155 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: it off the ground and getting it back on the 156 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: ground two different things. But they really do believe they're 157 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 2: going to be able to get it off the ground. 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: Now here is the other underlying factor that you know. 159 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I wouldn't even say it's 160 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: underlying anymore. 161 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I' say it's right there on the surface. 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: When all this started going down, when the Big Ten 163 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: announced their postponement, I tweeted out several things, but one 164 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: thing that a lot of you saw me tweet out 165 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: is the big question now is how many dance partners 166 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: does the. 167 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: SEC think they need? 168 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: Because I can tell you this, I don't see any world, 169 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: nor does Greg Sanki, and he's gone on the record 170 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: as saying this where the SEC just plays on an 171 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: island that's not happening. 172 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: It may sound cool, but it's not practical. 173 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: My question has been and continues to be, do they 174 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: think they need one other dance partner. By dance partner, 175 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: I mean other conference playing football simultaneously, or do they 176 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: need two of them? 177 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Right now? 178 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: They got two of them, and there's been this talking 179 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: point out there that's gotten kind of popularized, and I 180 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: don't know how accurate it is, but it's gotten kind 181 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: of popularized that the Big twelve holds all the cards 182 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: right now, and if the Big twelve bows out, then 183 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: the other two are gonna have no choice but to 184 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: bow out. 185 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Now. 186 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: That could be one of those things that, since there 187 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: is precious little legitimate information out there, when someone says something, 188 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: everyone just kind of lashes onto it. 189 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: That could be the case. 190 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Or it could be that it's perfectly valid that the 191 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: SEC and the ACC are depending on the Big twelve 192 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: to stay in this thing, and if they don't stay 193 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: in this thing, then the other two will quickly fold 194 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: up shop as well. Here is the best guidance that 195 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: we have. There's been the L word out there the 196 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: whole time. Anyone in any group that you have spoken 197 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: about this subject to, they have tried to use the 198 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: word liability. You know, they want you to know that 199 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: you're thinking right here, they're thinking just a little bit 200 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: higher than you are. They actually know legalese terminology liability. 201 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: What are we talking about here, Well, essentially you being 202 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: on the hook for something terrible that happens, and that 203 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: is a very obvious, legitimate fear of any kind of 204 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: athletic department or program or conference. 205 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Yes, all of that's on the table. 206 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: How in the world does it intertwine with the SEC 207 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: needing the Big twelve and the ACC needing the SEC 208 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: and likewise, well, here's how we were privy to some 209 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: information about how this all would work. 210 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: You know, how does liability work. 211 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: If that's your worst fear and then your worst fears 212 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: are realized? Some people postpone their seasons. You go ahead 213 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: and play your seasons, and then the worst it happens 214 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: and you have a COVID outbreak and kids have permanent 215 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: damage because of it. Like, that's clearly worst of worst case, 216 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: and you're on the hook for liability. Well, how does 217 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: that really intertwine with how many conferences are playing? Well, 218 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: the best information and intel that we could get is liability. 219 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: It was a long way in determining one way or 220 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: the other based on whether you are maintaining the industry 221 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: standard or not you're conforming, let's say, to the industry standard. 222 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: And now once I tell you that, now you understand 223 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: why it becomes a lot more important for as many 224 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: players to be at the table as possible conferences. When 225 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: I say players, if you've got the SEC for example, 226 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: and the worst were to happen and they were to 227 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: be sitting in a courtroom several years later, and you're 228 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: talking about liability. If you had the Big twelve playing, 229 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: and you had the ACC playing, you had several G 230 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: fives playing, then you could reasonably say we were maintaining 231 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: the industry standard. We weren't the only ones out there playing, 232 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: so certainly we were right in line with what the 233 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: industry standard still was at the time. However, if you 234 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: were the only game in town and everyone else had 235 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: closed up shop and you weren't, you understand that you'd 236 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: probably get laughed at by anyone wearing a black robe. 237 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: So what's the next step here? The next step is 238 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: CAM in classes. Those are the big seas right now, 239 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: the two Seas camps are opening all across the country, 240 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: and classes are opening all across the country. Now, let 241 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: me go ahead and spoil the ending for you here. 242 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: There are going to be cases of outbreaks. I think 243 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: it's all but inevitable that that's going to happen. I'm 244 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: not necessarily even talking about in a locker room or 245 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: in a team but you're eventually going to wake up 246 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: and look through one groggy eye at that iPhone one 247 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: of these mornings coming up, and you're going to see 248 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: a dozen two dozen, three dozen students that fill in 249 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: the blank university have tested positive for COVID. 250 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: I know there have been some of those headlines out 251 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: there today. 252 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: My point is that's coming, how big is it, to 253 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: what degree is it managed? And secondly does it impact 254 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: the football program on said campus? And thirdly are people 255 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: prepared for it in the decision making circles with college football? 256 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: I think they are. 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: I think with the SEC, Big twelve and ACC, I 258 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: think the minds in those rooms are wise enough to 259 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: understand we're not getting through this unscathed. There are going 260 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: to be hiccups here. How do we deal with them? 261 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: How do we overcome them? Because you can't come all 262 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: this way and then say, okay, but the first sign 263 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: of trouble, after all these months and after all these 264 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: protocols that have been put in place, you know, if 265 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: we have a six hour period of some bad news 266 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: that comes out, we'll just scrap it. I don't think 267 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: that's going to be the approach if you've stood this long. 268 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: I think you're probably going to try and stand a 269 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: little bit longer and be smart about it and weather 270 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: the storm. 271 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: But let me tell you what my biggest what if is. 272 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: And I kind of said this the other night, and 273 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: I've really kind of said this about the past month 274 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: where everyone else has been thinking about worst case, you know, 275 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: like if you are the Big ten and you postpone 276 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: and then some others don't, all you're thinking is, oh, 277 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: you'll be sorry, because I mean, you know, we have 278 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: taken precaution, you didn't. 279 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: What happens if on your watch, if. 280 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: You're Greg Sanki, you know, if you're on your SEC watch, 281 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: you have some breakouts and you have some some bad 282 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: things happen. 283 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: And that's naturally where the mind goes. 284 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: And I understand that, but could I please present this 285 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: alternative hypothetical that we may. 286 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: Or may not see play out one way or the other. 287 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: If let's say the season does get off the ground 288 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: and there is a lot of fighting behind the scenes. 289 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: Trust me, there's a lot of fighting by those who 290 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: have already canceled their seasons to pressure the others to 291 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: cancel their season two because they don't want the possibility 292 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: of what I'm about to say happening. The last thing 293 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: in this world that Big ten presidents and chancellors and 294 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: athletic directors and conference commissioners of the PAC twelve and 295 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: Big ten, last thing in the world they want is 296 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: to have postponed their season. And then us be sitting 297 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: here in the third week of October, first week in November, 298 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: and the SEC and the ACC and the Big twelve 299 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: are still playing football, and they've had some hiccups, but 300 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: largely it turns out the protocols that they had in 301 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: place the whole time worked, And as it turns out, 302 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: you probably did need to postpone your season. You voluntarily did. 303 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: If you think people are mad right now, and believe me, 304 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: they are. What happens when your fan bases and your administrations, 305 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: especially the ones who weren't on board with this decision 306 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: to begin with, your head coaches, your coaching staffs. What 307 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: happens when they've got their feet propped up on Saturday, 308 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: having to watch Alabama play against LSU, having to watch 309 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: Texas play against Oklahoma and you aren't doing anything. And 310 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: as it turns out, what was told to us at 311 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: one time to be abundantly clear ended up being anything 312 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: but So those are just some things to think about. 313 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: That's where we are right now, and we try and 314 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: bring you as much up to date but also sourced 315 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: logic based information as we can, which means there are 316 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: a lot of whispers out there that we don't address 317 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: on this program at least all Right, So I was 318 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: looking the other day at our homepage for twenty four 319 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: seven sports dot com because I am in our slack rooms. 320 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Most of you know what's black is. 321 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: If you don't, it's just basically a way to communicate 322 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: with your entire company, and a lot of little individual 323 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: chat rooms on there, so you know, we have one 324 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: for recruiting, we have one for podcasting, we have the 325 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: national channels, we have team channels, anything and everything you 326 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: could ever want. 327 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not giving you the password, though, but just know 328 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: they exist. 329 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: And so in our editorial meeting the other day, and 330 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: then subsequently in that chat room, I saw our Chris Hummer, 331 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: who's done a lot of really good work lately. I 332 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: saw him throwing together some things to watch for in 333 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: the future of college football, the immediate and then midterm 334 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: future of college football, and I said, that looks like 335 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be pretty good. Let me remember that 336 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: and come back when he actually publishes it. So I did. 337 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: He published it. I think even right now it's still 338 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: on the front page. If it's not, you can find 339 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: it if you scroll down, but on the front page 340 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: there of twenty four seven sports dot Com. Chris Hummer 341 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: did a really good job, and it came at this 342 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: from a lot of different angles. Like I told you, 343 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: I know, the lower third really says rapid reaction, but 344 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: we're kind of reacting to what this is going to 345 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: do in the future. Anyone can sit here and just 346 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: talk about how they can't belave what's happened so far. 347 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: I think you come to this program for a little 348 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: more than that. So let's avoid the emotion and let's 349 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: dive a little bit deeper here, as Chris Hummer did, 350 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: and I wanted to kind of read some of the 351 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: highlights that I took away from this and then dive 352 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: into it a little bit further. The first question that 353 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: I think is on a lot of minds right now, 354 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: including the ones watching this show, is playing in the spring, 355 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: which you know, the Big Ten says they're going to 356 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: try and do. Pac twelve says they're going to try 357 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: and do how feasible is that I've done radio hits 358 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: in four or five time zones. The last two days, 359 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: I was on in Honolulu for the first time. I 360 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: didn't tell you that Colin Charleston, the Honolulu yesterday, a 361 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: lot of places today, and everyone wants to know the 362 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: same thing. Could they really play in spring? Well, I 363 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: guess they could. But as optimistic as I have been 364 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: and try to continue to be about having football in 365 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: the fall, I am that much more cynical and jaded 366 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: towards the concept of spring football. And I'm going to 367 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: tell you why. Well, I think the reasons are obvious, 368 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: but let me give you an additional reason why. I 369 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: couldn't care less how forceful the language has been from 370 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. I don't care how resolved they seem 371 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: to this concept. This is again, the same league office 372 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: who delivered me a schedule and then postpone their season 373 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: six days later. So if they're able to turn on 374 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: that short of dime, then imagine what they could do 375 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: with five months to go until it's time to really 376 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: do anything. So I really don't think that we're going 377 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: to see it, and I don't even believe that a 378 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: lot of folks who are pitching the ideas believe that 379 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: we're going to see it. I guess we could see 380 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: it selfishly, of course, I'll be rooting for it to happen. Now, 381 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: don't think for a second I don't want to see 382 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: it happen. I'm not one of these folks out there 383 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: that you're ever going to accuse of rooting against the 384 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: season happen. I can assure you of that, but I 385 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: think there are many reasons to be less than optimistic 386 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: about that. Having said that, what in the world does 387 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: it do to the twenty twenty one fall season? If 388 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: you do have a spring season, this is where things 389 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: could become a mess. Let me give you actually several 390 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: ways here that I'm going to talk about where things 391 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: could get a whole lot muddier and sticky even than 392 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: they already are. If you have three Power five conferences, 393 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: let's say that go ahead and get a fall season, 394 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: m and then you've got two Power fives who or 395 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: just even one of them who attempt to and successfully 396 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: do pull off a spring season. What does fall of 397 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one look like? Because I can tell you 398 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: confidently the acc if they get an entire fall season 399 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: in right now, are gonna be business as usual for 400 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: the entirety of twenty twenty one, up to and including 401 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: the regular season. But if the Big Ten ends up 402 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: playing spring ball, first off, they're not going to play 403 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: twelve games in the spring, and I can also assure 404 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: you they're not going to play a full twelve game 405 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: season in the fall. And so if we were to 406 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: hit the fast forward button a year from now, hopefully 407 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: virus talk is a thing of the past. Probably still 408 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: cognizant of it, but hopefully it's a little bit more 409 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: in our rearview to where it's not impacting the season 410 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: happening or not. You're gonna have some folks sitting there 411 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: on the bench saying, we didn't postpone our season last year, 412 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: we got an entire season in, we're gonna play our 413 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: full twelve games. And then you may have some other 414 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: folks in there saying we're going to play nine or 415 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: ten of them maybe, And then you're going to have 416 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: the natural question, which we may very well be sitting 417 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: at this desk asking this next year, how do you 418 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: marry up some teams from conferences that only play nine 419 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: or ten games with teams from other conferences that play 420 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: twelve games, if you don't put yourself in that vulnerable 421 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: position to lose games as much as some of these. 422 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: Other teams are. 423 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: How do we equally weigh that, you know, how does 424 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the college football playoff and the bowl picture? How does 425 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: that work in twenty twenty one? Very interesting to note. Also, 426 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: your scholarship limits are going to have to be changed. 427 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: You've got an eighty five twenty five right now. You 428 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: got an eighty five man scholarship limit, and then you 429 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: got the twenty. 430 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Five per year that you can sign. 431 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: And there's some ways to slightly fudge these numbers, but 432 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: those are the pretty hard in stone written numbers right now. Well, 433 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: if you have a spring season, and you also maintain 434 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: the eligibility for guys that wanted to opt out and 435 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: all that, then you certainly when you can for early 436 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: enroll leaves too, you're going to have to extend the 437 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: eighty five man scholarship limit for anyone who's playing spring football. 438 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: And when I say spring ball, I mean an actual 439 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: football season in the spring. So if eligibility is extended 440 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: for people who opt out, meaning they're still eligible a 441 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: year longer than you thought they were going to be, 442 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 2: and if your early enroll lees are on campus by 443 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: the time your season starts, which they would be if 444 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: you had. 445 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: A spring season. 446 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: Are you going to extend your scholarship limits to one 447 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: to ten? Is that how that's going to happen? And 448 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: that would last into the fall, and let me tell 449 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: you where it really gets money. No one cares about 450 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: it in the spring. But Chris Hummer makes a good 451 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: point in this piece here. Auburn is supposed to play 452 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: Penn State next year. That's one to look forward to. 453 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: Do you honestly think that the SEC League office or 454 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: Gus Malzon is going to look at his eighty five 455 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: man roster and just be ready, willing and able to 456 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: play against teams with one hundred and ten man rosters 457 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: and have no problem with that. If you do, then 458 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: that makes one of us, because I really don't think 459 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: that speaking of early in roll leides, there is potentially 460 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: a massive loophole here that you could take advantage of 461 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: if you do end up playing spring football. I want 462 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: you to just think about this. It's very simple to understand. 463 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: If you are James Franklin at Penn State, if you're 464 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: Ryan Dave, if you're Jim Harbaugh and you've got a 465 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: situation where your season doesn't start until January. Let's say 466 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: you could have two years that you get from a player, 467 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: two seasons that you get from a player, using up 468 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: one year of eligibility. If that is indeed the way 469 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: that works, because you arrive, especially if you arrive in January. 470 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: You know, we can kind of compound matters a little 471 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: bit more here. What if I arrive in January as 472 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: an early in role leade and I'm a five star kid, 473 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a kid who is ready to contribute. Well, normally, 474 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: what you're looking at is for these teams who are 475 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: going to play for national championship, their early en roees 476 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: arrive and they participate in and playoff practice and national 477 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: championship practice. They're not going to play in the game, 478 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: but it's just a nice way to get them a 479 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: little bit of early acclamation to the way that things 480 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: work in that program. Well, if you're having a spring season, 481 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: your early enrollees theoretically are going to be able to 482 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: arrive on campus and be eligible to play the entire season. 483 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: Never seen that before. And then the last one, which 484 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: is kind of a morbid way to end this whole thing, 485 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: is surviving the financial impact. There is no easy way 486 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: to answer this. A lot of programs aren't going to 487 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: be able to I'm not just talking about football, I 488 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: mean athletic departments. A lot of them are going to 489 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: have to close the doors. You get the PAC twelve 490 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: openly talking about bailouts and loans and leveraging their future 491 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: TV deal as collateral to take out loans and whatnot. 492 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: But there's no easy way to answer that. I mean, 493 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: unless you have some very philanthropic billionaires who just decided 494 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: to come to the table and say, I think we're 495 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: going to rename the Sun Belt Conference after me in 496 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: exchange four me bailing you guys out. 497 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I don't really know how that's gonna work. But I 498 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: don't know how. 499 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: Many futures are going to be affected because we really 500 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: still ultimately don't know how this season even plays out. 501 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: Kind of fascinating, kind of sad, kind of interesting. Wish 502 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: we could fast forward ten years and just be reading 503 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: the history book on it, though. Let's get it down 504 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: to some more nuanced matters here, shall we. How long 505 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: has it been, Colin? It's probably been about two months, 506 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: about a month and a half, two months since we 507 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: took kind of an interest in Florida recruiting, and not 508 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: just the University of Florida we're about to talk about them, 509 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 2: but the recruiting situation in the state of Florida, I 510 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: think has had ripple effect and continues to do that 511 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: impacts the entire sport. 512 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: So even if you're a Michigan. 513 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Fan right now watching a Texas fan, if you're an 514 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Arkansas fan, I think this impacts all of you. I 515 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: normally talk about topics on this particular show that impact 516 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: the broadest majority of the audience for obvious reasons. 517 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: So I want you to just kind of walk along 518 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: with me here. 519 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: The general thinking has been the inability for any of 520 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: the Big three in the state of Florida, Miami, FSU, 521 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: and Florida all the respect to Central Florida, the Big 522 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: three remain the big three in the state of Florida, 523 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: and their inability to stop the bleeding of their own 524 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: high school talent from leaving and going to Tuscaloosa and 525 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: Clemson and Columbus Ohio has had a big impact in 526 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 2: the world of college football because not only is that 527 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: making you inept on a national level and has been 528 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: for a while Florida has been better on the field 529 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: than the other two significantly, not saying they haven't, but 530 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: they also haven't been in national championship contention, and the 531 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: other two obviously have been nothing to ride home about. 532 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: Not only has that happened, but places like Clemson, I 533 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: mean they have loaded up places like Alabama, they've loaded 534 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: up rosters with talent from Florida and one championships. How 535 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: much would the sports course be reversed if some of 536 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: that talent stayed home? How much more parody would you 537 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: have in the Atlantic Coast Conference. Let's say if Florida 538 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: State and or Miami were to have gotten their collective 539 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: recruiting efforts together for a few years and been able 540 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: to challenge Clemson. Don't know, don't know the answers to 541 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: all these things, they're rhetorical, but anyway, that's just to 542 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: briefly recap the thoughts that we've had here, and now 543 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: we move forward a little bit, because I think it's 544 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: just been a golden opportunity unrealized for the University of 545 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: Florida because the other two don't have something that Florida has. 546 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: Florida has had the ability to walk in living rooms 547 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: and say I'm a proven head coach. If I'm Dan 548 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: Mullum and number two, we're winning already. We're good already. 549 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: We're not trying to recover from a disastrous six and 550 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: seven back to back campaign run. 551 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: We've been in. 552 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: New Year six games the last two years, and you 553 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: need to realize that opportunity because eventually, if you don't, 554 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: someone else will. So that's been my thinking with Florida. 555 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that's even all that out of line 556 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: with the way a lot of Florida fans think. Fast 557 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: forward to five days ago. Five days ago, I was 558 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: very busy. I was working on a show, and I 559 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: was simultaneously doing like five other things, and I look 560 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: down at my phone and it may be Wilfong. Somebody 561 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: texted me and said Jason Marshall to Florida, and I 562 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: looked at it. I get a lot of texts per 563 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: day and a lot of alerts and stuff like right now, 564 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 2: even just from this show. My phone's blown up. So 565 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: I looked at it, but I didn't see it, if 566 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: that makes any sense. I glanced at it, but I 567 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: didn't really know what I looked at. Fast forward two 568 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: hours later, and I get another text said, can you 569 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: believe what Florida pulled off? 570 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: I said, what are they talking about? What are they 571 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: talking about? Oh wait a second, let me go back 572 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: and look at that text. 573 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: And I go back and look at the text, and 574 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: there it is, sure enough, Jason Marshall, five star corner 575 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: by the way out of South Florida. 576 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: We've been talking about him for quite a while, but 577 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: we've been. 578 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: Talking about him in the context of Alabama leading for him, 579 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: Miami looking like they were surging maybe to the forefront 580 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: for him. We had not talked about the University of 581 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: Florida all that much, nor had anyone else. This was 582 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: a genuine shocker for a lot of people, myself included, 583 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: and it just didn't register at the moment when I 584 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: looked at my phone. So you know, I thought it 585 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: must be a twenty twenty two kid, because it was 586 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: so out of the realm of possibility to me that 587 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: this was happening on this day. 588 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: But it ended up happening. If you suggested to me. 589 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: That this is the biggest, or at the very least 590 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: one of the biggest commits that Dan Mullins had in 591 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: his time at Florida, I'm certainly not going. 592 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: To argue with you, it was Miami, it was Bama. 593 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: We thought he silently committed to Miami last week in Boom, 594 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: he's committed to Florida. So let's get rid of the 595 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: whole prerequisite here. Yes, it's a verbal commitment. Yes, anything 596 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: could change with any verbal commitment. So okay, now that 597 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: we got all that out of the way, let's talk 598 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: about this because this was a golden opportunity for Miami. 599 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Make no mistake. 600 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: They had already landed the verbal commitment of James Williams, 601 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: and they had already landed the verbal commitment of Leonard Taylor, 602 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: a couple of more five star products out of South Florida, 603 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: and if they were about to make a move from Marshall, 604 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 2: it was going to be a really big deal. And instead, 605 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: Florida swoops him. And so you're sitting around and if 606 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: you're if you're a fan of Florida foot ball, the 607 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: state of Florida, Florida high school football, and you've been following, 608 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: for instance, the recruiting scene down there, you know about 609 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: all these kids from Palmetto down there, the Palmetto five 610 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: as they call them, A lot of the loaded this 611 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: year that high school program is loaded this year, not 612 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: the first time, probably won't be the last. Next day 613 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: they land Marshall does Florida. Next day, there's another alert. 614 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: Corey Collier. Now this was a scheduled commitment, but Corey Collier, 615 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: four star safety out of the aforementioned Paul Meadow five, 616 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: also commits to University of Florida. 617 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: That's another top one hundred kid. That's a high four 618 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: star safety. 619 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden you're looking around and saying, 620 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: wait a second, it seems like we've been talking for 621 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: months about Dan Mullin in company and Dan Mullen in 622 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: Florida meeting some kind of spark, and they got it yesterday, 623 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: and now this is back to back. In some worlds, 624 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: they would even call this a hot streak. They would 625 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: call them Domino's falling. And so I knew what was 626 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: coming before I even opened the Twitter, DMS or the 627 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: email inbox. But I did it anyway, and I had 628 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: I would safely say several dozen messages that in some 629 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: shape form or fashion, sometimes in all caps, sometimes not 630 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: said what are. 631 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: You gonna say about Florida? Now? Well, I'm gonna say 632 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: good things about him? 633 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: Now I'm not sure what the interpretation I was supposed 634 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: to have to those messages was. Was I supposed to 635 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: know this was coming? Did you guys know this was coming? 636 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't think you did. 637 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: So. 638 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: Basically, my strategy has been, let me be mildly critical 639 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: of the recruiting effort at Florida until the recruiting effort 640 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: at Florida turns a corner. Then I will praise the 641 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: recruiting effort at the University of Florida. So now it's 642 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: time to heap some praise on the recruiting effort at Florida. 643 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: This is a big deal. They need to duplicate it. 644 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: This does not need to be a one month deal 645 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: or a one cycle deal. 646 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: This should be an annual deal. 647 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: Now we can cross that bridge later because right now 648 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: things have been good over the last week. And think 649 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: about this, if you zoom it out just a little bit, 650 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: if we were to rewind three months ago and I 651 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: got the names in front of me here, you know, 652 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: James Williams was thought to be a Georgia line and 653 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: that's a five star athlete out of South Florida. He 654 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: was thought to be a Georgia Lean For a long time. 655 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to Georgia. Leonard Taylor was 656 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: he was down to Florida or Miami. So that was 657 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: a guy that it was pretty widely thought was going 658 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: to stay in state. But Jason Marshall Alabama had a 659 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: lot of smoke trending very very strongly. It looked like 660 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: for Jason Marshall, Corey Collier, all of these guys. 661 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: My point is, if I were to tell you three months. 662 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: Ago, hey, Taylor and Collier and Marshall and Williams, none 663 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: of them are leaving the state of Florida, that is 664 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: what would have shut me up. 665 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: That is what would have taken a lot. 666 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: Of those segments that we did on the state of 667 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: the State of Florida, the Sunshine State recruiting, and I 668 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: would have wadded it up and. 669 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Thrown it over my shoulder because this is how it 670 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: should be. This is how it should be. 671 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: If you're going to have success for the big three 672 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: in the state of Florida, this is the way it 673 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: should be. And if you're winning consistently, if you're contending 674 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 2: for SEC Eastern Division championships, you're going to New Year 675 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: Six Bowl games, you shouldn't have a problem pulling a 676 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: whole lot of talent out of your own state. You 677 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: certainly should not be finishing runner up consistently two programs 678 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: that come in from out of state. I don't care 679 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: how noteworthy they may be. So what's next? I don't know. 680 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: I was hearing whispers and rumors and it was smoke 681 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: today about maybe another commit coming from Florida or for Florida. Listen, 682 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: you never know if Jason Marshall popped out of the blue. 683 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: No one ever knows what's coming. 684 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: But just if you go to that swamp twenty four 685 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: to seven message board, for example, isn't it nice for 686 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: a change to log on there and actually be able 687 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: to talk about legitimate, high profile recruiting rumors. Isn't it 688 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: nice even if half of them don't pan out to 689 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: think that? Again, we are in it now for big names. Oh, 690 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: someone just decommitted from Ohio state. 691 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: We're in it. 692 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: And we just landed a five star from South Florida. Good, 693 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: what's going to happen next day we get a four 694 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: star safety from South Florida. Hey, we're in it now, 695 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: so we're in squarely in the top ten of the 696 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: team rankings. But also now we are trafficking in some 697 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: of the same rumors that Alabama fans traffic and Clemson 698 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: fans and Ohio State fans. This is what it's supposed 699 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: to feel like when you are recruiting the way you're 700 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: supposed to. So now you got to hit the repeat 701 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: button and over and over and over again. So yes, 702 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: praise is due for the Florida recruiting effort over the 703 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: last week. To wrap it up, I'm going to go 704 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: into the late kick inbox. Jaden sent us something on 705 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: Twitter and at late Kick Josh is where you can 706 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: do that, by the way, and he asked kind of 707 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: a version of a question a lot of people have 708 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: been asking, and that is how should they handle the 709 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: college football playoff if it is to happen this year? 710 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: So I'll answer it kind of like Kevin Warren dealt 711 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: with Nebraska. I'm not gonna beat around the bush about it. 712 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to say as normal. That's how two words period, 713 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: as normal, handle it as normal. I think the trick 714 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: here is not to use August logic for a December question. 715 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: What I mean there is this doesn't have to be 716 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: decided now. It's not going to be decided now. Half 717 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: the room, if not more than half the room doesn't 718 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: even think we're going to make this matter anyway, because 719 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people think the season isn't gonna get in. 720 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: But the point is, if we end up having to 721 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: worry about the answer to this question, that means that 722 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: we have gotten a college football season end. So forget 723 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: about the August logic. That's where we are right now. 724 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: Let's pretend it's early December. Let's pretend that we're creeping 725 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: ever so close to conference championship games and the ACC 726 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: and the Big twelve and the ACC. 727 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: And who knows how many G fives could end. 728 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: Up at this dance this year, they have actually gotten 729 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: a season en well, if we get to that point, 730 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: that means just that entire seasons have been able to 731 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: have been gotten in. At that point, you got to 732 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: think about how bad Big ten is gonna look. You 733 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: got to think about how negative the pr towards the 734 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: PAC twelve is gonna look. At that point, I don't 735 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: think there's very much sympathy for the fact that those 736 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: two voluntarily, not forced to voluntarily postpone their seasons. That, 737 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: as it turns out, according to the evidence in front 738 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: of us, and it's plentiful by this point in December didn't. 739 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: Need to be postponed. 740 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: So at that point, I think the overwhelming sentiment will 741 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: be you choose from the folks who are at the 742 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: table right now. And we got three of them who 743 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: were bold enough to stand firm in what their medical 744 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 2: advice was, their medical advice validated and verified, and they're 745 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: here now. So if we got a couple from the SEC, 746 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: if we got a couple from out there into Big twelve, 747 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: the ACC, whoever we have, we're taking four of you 748 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: and we're going to have our college football playoff and 749 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: that's it. 750 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: That's really the end. 751 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes we like to stretch these out a little bit 752 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: because it's better for our SEO when we put the 753 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: individual edit of the video up later. And this is 754 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: kind to me stretching now, but that's how you do it. 755 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: There were choices made. There are choices still to be made, 756 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: but there are choices that have already been made by 757 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: the Big ten and the PAC twelve, just as there 758 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: will be very consequential choices made by the SEC, PAC 759 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: twelve or Big twelve rather and the ACC. The choices 760 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: have consequences. This is part of it. If you make 761 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: the choice and hopefully a very informed decision to have 762 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: your seasons and someone else didn't. You're not going to 763 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: get opportunities taken away from you. I don't care how 764 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: many people write in newspaper columns, Oh this is going 765 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: to have an asterisk next to it. Oh, this won't 766 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: be a valid championship. Do you think it's valid? Because 767 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: if you do, forget what anyone else says, and I 768 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: can promise you, I can guarantee you we don't do 769 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: that very often. If these three conferences are able to 770 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 2: get seasons in, at least one man on this program 771 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: is going to have no problem whatsoever sitting here at 772 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: this desk and looking you in the eye and saying, 773 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: whoever has confetti raining down on them in where is. 774 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: It at this year? 775 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: That's how preoccupied I've been. I don't even where the 776 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: national championship is Houston. Maybe anyway, wherever it is, that's 777 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: my champion. That'll be my champion. 778 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Now. 779 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: You can play for the Big ten title in the spring. 780 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: You can play for the PAC twelve championship. 781 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: In the spring. 782 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: If no one else wants to hold that championship is valid, 783 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: I'll hold that playoff in that champion as valid, a 784 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: valid show tonight, one that we have gotten through with 785 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: relatively few, if any hiccups. 786 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: So Colin, congratulations to me and you. 787 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: I think this has been a really good night for 788 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: us and by default a good night for you too. 789 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: A reminder, we spend a little bit of time on 790 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: the goings on in college football right now, but I 791 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: didn't react a ton to the Big ten. I planned 792 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: on doing it, and we made a decision about an 793 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: hour ago. Forget that's that's several days old. But if 794 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 2: you are interested in what the broad takeaways were there, 795 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: because we didn't have a show since that happened, you 796 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: can download the Late Kick Extra podcast. I would suggest 797 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: you do that anywhere. There's a lot of really good 798 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: stuff there. You can find that wherever you get your podcast. 799 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: We release it every Wednesday, and really good stuff there 800 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: this week, and I had an extended, probably twenty to 801 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: twenty five minute period where I hit that whole situation 802 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: from every angle possible, also took several of your questions. 803 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 2: That's the normal format of the Late Kick Extra podcast. Also, 804 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: if you subscribe there, you get every one of these 805 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: shows too in audio form, thus the name Late Kick Podcast. 806 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: So we'll be back here Sunday night. We have got 807 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: a lot going on. We'll keep you as up to 808 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: date as we possibly can. Make sure you follow me 809 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: on Twitter at late Kick Josh. It's been about as 810 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: active this past week as. 811 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: It ever has been. 812 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: That's where a lot of information gets out to you 813 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: if it's between shows. 814 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Which most of the time it is because these shows 815 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: are only like forty minutes long. 816 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: So until next time, take care for director Colin. I 817 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: am Josh bade have a great rest of your weeks. 818 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: They say, God bless