Speaker 1: This is Let's be clear with Shannon Dorty.
Speaker 2: All right, hi, everybody, welcome to another episode. Let's be
Speaker 2: clear with Shannon Doherty. This is our second Q and A.
Speaker 2: I kind of love these because they're just so interesting
Speaker 2: what you guys want to ask, and it's not stuff
Speaker 2: that I would have thought to address. So now I'm
Speaker 2: going to let's get to this question.
Speaker 1: Holly Murray.
Speaker 2: Combs announced that all the cast members are ready for
Speaker 2: the reunion of Charmed. The only problem is the rights
Speaker 2: to the series, which they don't have right now.
Speaker 1: Is this true?
Speaker 2: Yes, So the way that it works is us as actors,
Speaker 2: unless we wrote the show, created it, produced it, we
Speaker 2: have no rights to it. I believe it's CBS who
Speaker 2: owns the show. So the only person or the only
Speaker 2: company that can make a reunion happen is CBS. So
Speaker 2: if you guys really want one, then you have to
Speaker 2: barred their Instagram, their Facebook, right mail.
Speaker 1: I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do any of that,
Speaker 2: but that's the only way. You know, do petitions and
Speaker 2: send them in. That's pretty much the only way that
Speaker 2: it would happen, and it would have to happen pretty
Speaker 2: quickly unless you want to see all of us as Grandma's. Okay,
Speaker 2: what is your most memorable moment, both professionally and personally
Speaker 2: and would you have done anything differently? Most memorable moment?
Speaker 2: You know, I have so many amazing memories with my
Speaker 2: family and particularly with my dad growing up that and
Speaker 2: because he's no longer with me, I couldn't name just
Speaker 2: one at all, because every single one of them is
Speaker 2: incredibly precious to me. Personally, I think probably working with
Speaker 2: Michael Landon was one of the most amazing professional moments
Speaker 2: that I had because he was so kind, so nice,
Speaker 2: such a good man. I learned a lot from him,
Speaker 2: so he was Yeah, he was amazing, absolutely amazing. I
Speaker 2: I've gotten to work with a lot of fantastic actors
Speaker 2: and also with friends like James Glenbressak, Like, those are
Speaker 2: very memorable moments that we've had. What do you value
Speaker 2: most in others and what do you wish you can
Speaker 2: improve in yourself? Honesty, honesty, and loyalty is what I
Speaker 2: value the most in others, even over a sense of humor,
Speaker 2: which is incredibly important to me. If you're an honest person,
Speaker 2: if you're loyal, I am going to forever be by
Speaker 2: your side, and if you're not, you're not going to
Speaker 2: be by my side. What do you wish you could
Speaker 2: improve in yourself? Probably my directness. I wish I could
Speaker 2: soften my edges a little bit. I think that I
Speaker 2: was raised to be very direct and no bullshit, and
Speaker 2: because of that, I can come across harsh and abrasive.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'll tell you guys, I did it
Speaker 2: five minutes before I started filming this podcast because Brian,
Speaker 2: my wonderful engineer, couldn't hear me on the mic and
Speaker 2: I've been rushing today and we were, you know, running late,
Speaker 2: and so he was like, is the mic plugged in?
Speaker 2: I'm like yes, He's like, it's not really plugged in
Speaker 2: because I can't hear you. And I was like, here's
Speaker 2: the plug. It doesn't plug into the damn computer. And
Speaker 2: then I found the thing and I was like, oh God.
Speaker 2: So I think I had to soften my edges and
Speaker 2: not be so direct sometimes maybe and more patients. I
Speaker 2: need a lot more patience. I find that, particularly lately,
Speaker 2: I don't have as much patience as I have had,
Speaker 2: and it's probably because of the protocol that I'm currently
Speaker 2: on and I struggle with pain a lot currently, which
Speaker 2: we'll get into in another episode coming very soon. All Right,
Speaker 2: what's your favorite Charmed episode and if you could play
Speaker 2: any other Charmed character, who would it be and why?
Speaker 2: My favorite Charmed episode is the Western because I got
Speaker 2: to ride horses and I love horses. I'm obsessed with horses.
Speaker 2: And I directed it and I thought it was one
Speaker 2: of my better episodes.
Speaker 1: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: The whole thing, just the script felt cool to me,
Speaker 2: the clothes were cool, the visuals, my DP did an
Speaker 2: amazing job. I just loved that episode. I also loved
Speaker 2: my last episode because I directed it. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: because I died, that's definitely a reason to hate it,
Speaker 2: but because I thought the acting was on point. Out
Speaker 2: of every single cast member, everybody was fantastic in that episode.
Speaker 2: As an actress, how does it feel when you know
Speaker 2: the screenplay of the series, show, or movie you'll be
Speaker 2: a part of, is if not stupid or at least senseless.
Speaker 1: Oh that means.
Speaker 2: That there's something I did in my career that you
Speaker 2: felt was senseless. The person asking this question, I mean,
Speaker 2: what I'll tell you is if I did something senseless,
Speaker 2: either A I needed the money, or B I had
Speaker 2: no control over the episode. So if I had no control,
Speaker 2: that means that I was, you know, on a series
Speaker 2: and there was a really stupid episode or something, and
Speaker 2: and back then, you know, I didn't have that much control.
Speaker 2: But if it was not on a TV show and
Speaker 2: I did something sinceless, I promise you it was for
Speaker 2: the money, yeah, you know, I mean I helped support
Speaker 2: a family. So there were a lot of jobs that
Speaker 2: I took, not a lot, but a few that I
Speaker 2: took that was strictly for the paycheck. And I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily regret those because being able to help support.
Speaker 1: My family and my dad when.
Speaker 2: He was so sick is really important to me and
Speaker 2: something I'm very proud that I was able to do
Speaker 2: for him, and for my mom and for my brother.
Speaker 2: You've been traveling all over doing various comic con appearances,
Speaker 2: and many of us have traveled a great distance to
Speaker 2: meet you in parentheses, and while worth it, many of
Speaker 2: us will walk away from this experience having lived an
Speaker 2: absolute bucket list moment. What is that you take away
Speaker 2: from these experiences and what have been some highlights for you?
Speaker 2: I think, honestly, for me, the it shocks me every
Speaker 2: single time I do a comic con. It shocks me
Speaker 2: that anybody cares enough to meet me. I do not
Speaker 2: think I'm that special. I don't think that I'm somebody
Speaker 2: that should be on anybody's bucket list. I think that
Speaker 2: probably the only thing that truly makes me special is
Speaker 2: cancer and being able to reach people and help people.
Speaker 2: By the way, I deeply appreciate if I'm on anybody's
Speaker 2: bucket list, that's pretty amazing and it's such an ego
Speaker 2: boost and super flattering. But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I maybe I'm just a very insecure person. So I'm
Speaker 2: not quite sure right anybody cares about me at the
Speaker 2: end of the day. But those EXPERI chiances make me
Speaker 2: believe in that short weekend that maybe I am special
Speaker 2: for more than just having cancer. Maybe it's cancer and
Speaker 2: the acting. Maybe it's all of it combined. And what
Speaker 2: really touches me is when people share with me their
Speaker 2: own journeys and their journeys that have been not so
Speaker 2: easy and rough, and whether it's that we got somebody
Speaker 2: through a very rough childhood watching Charmed and how much
Speaker 2: that helped them, or whether I helped a daughter go
Speaker 2: through cancer with her mom, or a husband go through
Speaker 2: or a wife go through it. Those moments mean the
Speaker 2: absolute most to me. And honestly, walking out on that
Speaker 2: stage when we do the Q and a's and everybody
Speaker 2: at the comic con just of plouding, it's like, for
Speaker 2: one second, you feel like a rock star. You feel
Speaker 2: just so good and good about yourself in that brief moment.
Speaker 2: So my experience always as I walk away, going wow,
Speaker 2: that was super cool, and that I have like the
Speaker 2: best most loyal fans anybody could ever ask for, and
Speaker 2: I feel extremely blessed. So those are my highlights, and
Speaker 2: that's my takeaway is just you guys. My takeaway is
Speaker 2: you guys, right hey, lifelong fan here. My question is,
Speaker 2: I really loved the movie Friends till the end, but
Speaker 2: it reminded me of the Brende slash Laura storyline from
Speaker 2: season four of Beverly Hills nine oh two zero. I
Speaker 2: just want to hear thoughts on this. You know, I
Speaker 2: had never thought of that. I had never thought of
Speaker 2: like the comparison, But you're right, You're one hundred percent
Speaker 2: right there is yeah, because Laura ended up being crazy too.
Speaker 2: And Jennifer who played sort of my Friend slash Rival
Speaker 2: at the end she ended up being crazy as well,
Speaker 2: so they are similar. The cool thing about Friend Cilienne
Speaker 2: was that I got to sing and I can still
Speaker 2: like google it and hear the tracks that I put down.
Speaker 2: Thought I just sounded like I'm trying to be a
Speaker 2: recording artist with tracks put down. But anyway, it was
Speaker 2: an amazing experience. I loved every single second of doing
Speaker 2: that movie. I know your biggest source of inspiration is
Speaker 2: your mom, but if not, is there an actor actress
Speaker 2: who has inspired you? Okay, well, my biggest source of inspiration, yes,
Speaker 2: is my mother, but it's also my father, and that is,
Speaker 2: in fact, my two biggest sources beyond an actor and actress.
Speaker 2: Like I would never swap my mom and my dad
Speaker 2: as my inspirations for anybody else, but actors are actresses.
Speaker 2: I mean I was heavily influenced by Catherine Hepburn and
Speaker 2: Bert Lancaster and Henry Fonda growing up, and then that
Speaker 2: sort of went into you know, Robert de Niro and
Speaker 2: Al Pacino, heavily influenced by the director Martin Scorsese, Joe Wright,
Speaker 2: Quentin Tarantino, Steven Soderberg. I was you know, greatly inspired
Speaker 2: by my most serious boyfriend, which was Rob Weiss, his
Speaker 2: dedication to work, his writing, all of it. So I've
Speaker 2: had a lot of inspirations. As far as more female actresses,
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I think Nicole Kimman is amazing. I've
Speaker 2: probably been the most inspired by Michelle Pfeiffer, and I
Speaker 2: just find her to be remarkable in every way, shape
Speaker 2: and form. I mean, yes, she's a stunning woman. But
Speaker 2: if you view her body of work from Scarface to
Speaker 2: the Fabulous Baker Boys to Tequila Sunrise, you know, to uh,
Speaker 2: I mean to everything, like the span is ridiculous. She
Speaker 2: just she she changes and I don't see any effort
Speaker 2: in the change, which is really stunning. So she's a
Speaker 2: very very very very big inspiration to me. And as
Speaker 2: far as like a much younger generation, there's god, there's
Speaker 2: so many young kids nowadays that are like fantastic, really
Speaker 2: really really fantastic. But those are my those are my
Speaker 2: main sources, right there. Hi, And will you have Rose
Speaker 2: mcgallan as a guest on your podcast? I yes, that's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent positive. Rose and I get along really well,
Speaker 2: We adore each other, and I really like respect her
Speaker 2: her foundation, Like I don't mean foundation like a you know,
Speaker 2: charity foundation, I mean like her foundation in herself. I
Speaker 2: sort of view our bodies as like we sit in
Speaker 2: a foundation. It's basically how we were raised. Our morals,
Speaker 2: our beliefs, everything like that. That's our foundation. And uh,
Speaker 2: and I admire hers. I think that. I also admire
Speaker 2: the fact that her you know, her book Brave aptly
Speaker 2: titled Brave, she she went against a lot of people
Speaker 2: and suffered for it. And I admire her bravery also
Speaker 2: her wit. She's very, very, very witty. When you did Charmed,
Speaker 2: how did the nine to two and zero cast rate act?
Speaker 2: I have no idea how they were acted? Were they
Speaker 2: shocked that you were working with spelling? Again, I have
Speaker 2: no idea. I don't even know the timing. I don't
Speaker 2: know if nine O two was already canceled. I don't
Speaker 2: know who had already left nine O two and Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like you guys could probably educate me
Speaker 2: if there was like a lap over, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Once I was done with nine O two and Oh,
Speaker 2: I did not sort of look back in that direction.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get fired from something, you sort
Speaker 2: of tried to move on because it's hard. How much
Speaker 2: of yourself do you think Brenda and yourself are similar?
Speaker 2: I would say that we were more similar in the
Speaker 2: beginning because I always felt like a fish out of
Speaker 2: water as well and a little bit naive. But I
Speaker 2: think as time went on, and I can't say this
Speaker 2: for sure, right, but perhaps some of the writers and
Speaker 2: perhaps one of the producers look at my outside persona.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of lies and bad you know,
Speaker 2: bad journalism. You can't call it journalism. It's just trash
Speaker 2: writing people trying to make a book at the expense
Speaker 2: of somebody else, like the National Inquirer, Star Magazine and
Speaker 2: all of those. They made up a lot of lies.
Speaker 2: And I think that some people that I worked with
Speaker 2: correlated myself and those lies together and wrote them into Brenda.
Speaker 2: And the more angsty Brenda got, the more unhappy I
Speaker 2: got with her. And also when the whole you know, Dylan, Brenda,
Speaker 2: Kelly trying what happened, there was like nothing similar because
Speaker 2: Brenda eventually forgave Kelly. And I can tell you that
Speaker 2: if one of my friends cheated with somebody that I
Speaker 2: absolutely loved, there would be no forgiveness. I would know
Speaker 2: ever speak to them again, because I'm a pretty resolute
Speaker 2: person about loyalty and about boundaries and how you treat
Speaker 2: another human being, so we're not very similar. We'd love
Speaker 2: to hear stories about Luke and Shannon's friendship over the years.
Speaker 2: You know, it's changed a lot, right, So it like
Speaker 2: like true friends, true brother and sister, true boyfriend, girlfriend,
Speaker 2: truex ex's relationships go in waves, and Luke and I
Speaker 2: definitely had our waves. There were moments that we got
Speaker 2: along so well, moments that we fought, then we would
Speaker 2: make up, then we would fight, then we would make up.
Speaker 2: A lot of that was just when we were working
Speaker 2: together on the set. I think once we stopped working
Speaker 2: together on the set and we matured a little bit,
Speaker 2: our friendship just grew and grew and grew and got
Speaker 2: a lot stronger, and there was a deeper appreciation for
Speaker 2: one another.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Somebody told me that the nine on two O cast
Speaker 2: minus me did a convention, a con and that in
Speaker 2: a Q and A Luke said something to the effect of,
Speaker 2: you know, none of us would be here without Shannon,
Speaker 2: And if that is true, I've not looked it up
Speaker 2: because probably I just want to believe it's true. But
Speaker 2: that kind of sums up like our relationship now or
Speaker 2: what it was. What it ended once he passed away
Speaker 2: was a deeper appreciation for one another and what we
Speaker 2: brought to each other's careers and to our lives. Will
Speaker 2: you ever sing the songs you're saying on friends, Tilly?
Speaker 2: And if somebody pays me a lot of money, sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've probably also can't like drink ginger ail. I'll have
Speaker 2: to get you know, I have like nodules in my
Speaker 2: vocal cords, So even for that, I was having to
Speaker 2: get steroids shots to get those nodules down.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done theater? And if not, would you I?
Speaker 2: When I was very young I did like local theater,
Speaker 2: and then at the Burbank Playhouse they did a production
Speaker 2: of a play called The Mound Builders. And then for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, I guess, I became very, very very self conscious.
Speaker 2: So and I think it definitely happened during nn Tuna
Speaker 2: where I just felt so judged and misunderstood, sometimes rightfully
Speaker 2: so right Sometimes I put out a bad message and
Speaker 2: I didn't behave or whatever. So I take full responsibility,
Speaker 2: not full. I take some responsibility for some of it.
Speaker 2: But it made me so self conscious that I have
Speaker 2: turned down some really good plays because I think it's
Speaker 2: easier to be in your TV or on your screen
Speaker 2: as opposed to not getting a laugh in real time
Speaker 2: if you're doing a play that's comedy, or just glancing
Speaker 2: out and seeing that somebody is not happy with your performance,
Speaker 2: it's so real and it's so palpable how the audience
Speaker 2: is responding to you in a play. I'm not quite
Speaker 2: sure I could handle it. I think I'm I think
Speaker 2: I'm too fragile for it now, and my days of
Speaker 2: challenging myself to that degree, I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I have it in me anymore.
Speaker 2: I like to challenge myself, but it's in a lot
Speaker 2: of other areas in my life. I don't think I
Speaker 2: want to be judged anymore.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 2: Doing this podcast has become it's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of it that I love, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot lately that I don't love. The part that
Speaker 2: I don't love is, you know, mean comments or I'm
Speaker 2: not dishing enough dirt for certain people. They you know
Speaker 2: I have said, well, it's called let's be clear, and
Speaker 2: you're not being clear because you're not naming names.
Speaker 1: Let me just remind you, let's be clear. Is about me.
Speaker 2: It's about my journey. It's about me telling my truth.
Speaker 2: My truth I don't I don't always have to throw
Speaker 2: somebody under the bus in order to tell my truth.
Speaker 2: My main objective of doing this podcast, and I know
Speaker 2: I'm going way off of what the question was doing
Speaker 2: the podcast is in fact a diary. It is a
Speaker 2: diary of the past, the present, and the future.
Speaker 1: It is a.
Speaker 2: Version of a memoir. I am not a person who
Speaker 2: will ever do a scandalous tell all memoir. I've been
Speaker 2: offered a ton of money, a ton for years and
Speaker 2: years and years. I have refused to do it. If
Speaker 2: something is incredibly obvious and somebody else has called me out,
Speaker 2: sure I can then bring up their name, because they've
Speaker 2: already fired first shot. If somebody got me fired, sure
Speaker 2: I'm going to have that conversation. But if I see
Speaker 2: that somebody's changed, or or if I don't see the
Speaker 2: benefit to either person, or if I feel it's nothing
Speaker 2: but dr and the person and I didn't even get
Speaker 2: a chance to clean it up, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: feel like there is a line that you have to
Speaker 2: draw in the sand of integrity and pleasing certain people
Speaker 2: who are listening to your podcast. And I will always
Speaker 2: choose integrity over somebody listening to my podcast, because integrity
Speaker 2: wins every time. So I don't know why I went
Speaker 2: on that. I'm so sorry you guys. Oh, I was
Speaker 2: talking about judgment. So yeah, no, theater, probably not. I'm
Speaker 2: in a place in my life where if I'm going
Speaker 2: to work in acting ever again, then it's got to
Speaker 2: be with people that I really love and respect. And
Speaker 2: this podcast will continue until I feel too judged, and
Speaker 2: then I will stop it because I'm you know, I've
Speaker 2: judged myself enough in my life and found myself guilty
Speaker 2: far too many times, and punish myself far too many
Speaker 2: times and continue to make bad choices. Because I was
Speaker 2: punishing myself, I would beat myself so up so much
Speaker 2: that I had, you know, lack of self esteem, lack
Speaker 2: of a lot of things. So I and I've worked
Speaker 2: on myself quite a bit, and now with cancer, I
Speaker 2: just don't think that I can handle it.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite quote of all time? Gosh, now that
Speaker 2: I'm on this, Botto, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: actually quote it correctly, but I can do all things
Speaker 2: through Christ, who strengthen with me.
Speaker 1: And it's from the Bible. Favorite books of all time.
Speaker 1: There's too many. There's too many, And there's one that
Speaker 1: I like adore right now, but I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: to the rights to it, so I can't say what
Speaker 1: it is. I have a really like vast range of
Speaker 1: books that I like. I like. I love books about history.
Speaker 2: I love learning about the past because I feel like
Speaker 2: the past always comes into our present and helps shape
Speaker 2: our future to some degree.
Speaker 1: So I love books like that. But I also love,
Speaker 1: you know, just.
Speaker 2: Complete fiction that takes me into a completely different world
Speaker 2: in a different space. And sometimes I'll even read a
Speaker 2: ya novel just because they're fun and they're easy. It
Speaker 2: just depends on my mood. Who makes you laugh the
Speaker 2: best and hardest? From the belly h This is a
Speaker 2: hard one for me because some of my friends are
Speaker 2: getting it very upset hearing that it's not them. My
Speaker 2: friend Julie makes me laugh really, really, really hard. We
Speaker 2: were just on vacation together and I laughed until I
Speaker 2: fell asleep, Like it was a problem. I laughed so
Speaker 2: hard that I came back from vacation with ABS because
Speaker 2: I was laughing that hard. My other friend Amrie has
Speaker 2: always made me laugh, and Chris and I we just
Speaker 2: we find moments that nobody else would find funny and
Speaker 2: we laugh hysterically. So and you know what, my dog
Speaker 2: makes me laugh.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I love laughing. And I'm really fortunate to have the
Speaker 2: people in my life that I have now because they
Speaker 2: do make me laugh. And I think that they all
Speaker 2: realize the importance of laughter for me because so many
Speaker 2: other things are hard that if they can make me laugh,
Speaker 2: if I can make them laugh, if we have those moments,
Speaker 2: they're so special and something to be really valued. Would
Speaker 2: you voice Prue in a Charmed animated series? Absolutely? I
Speaker 2: love Charmed, I love Prue, I love our audience, I
Speaker 2: love our fans, So of course I would absolutely in
Speaker 2: a heartbeat. Can you share a special memory from working
Speaker 2: girls just want to have fun? Was it as fun
Speaker 2: to film as it looked on screen?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: I have a really embarrassing moment that still to this
Speaker 2: day is an embarrassing moment for me as an actor,
Speaker 2: which was that moment where my character who I can't
Speaker 2: remember her name Jonathan Silverman was playing my brother's friend
Speaker 2: who my character had a crush on, and I think
Speaker 2: he called me a punker, said I looked punk or something,
Speaker 2: and I had to show excitement, and even as a
Speaker 2: little girl, I was never somebody who was very girly
Speaker 2: and showed excitement in a very girly or demonstrative way.
Speaker 2: And so I did a couple of takes and the
Speaker 2: director wanted me to be more excited and of a
Speaker 2: girl that age with a crush, how she would react
Speaker 2: fair fantastic note he was right, But I was so
Speaker 2: confused on how to do that because it was so
Speaker 2: outside of my own personality and I was not a
Speaker 2: girl who had experienced a crush yet. So it was
Speaker 2: really digging from nowhere essentially to come up with an
Speaker 2: appropriate reaction that would make everybody happy with my performance.
Speaker 2: So I think sarcastically because I didn't really want to
Speaker 2: do any more takes. I jumped up and down and
Speaker 2: in circles and squealed. And I'm not somebody who ever
Speaker 2: is a squealer like that, but I actually squealed and
Speaker 2: jumped in a circle. If you watch it, you'll note
Speaker 2: the scene it's It's at the dance off. When I
Speaker 2: watched that years and years later, because I don't like
Speaker 2: watching anything that I am in, but people kept on
Speaker 2: talking about girls just want to have fun, I thought, huh,
Speaker 2: should probably watch it. People really liked it. I cringe
Speaker 2: when that scene came on. Cringe. My face turned red.
Speaker 2: I wondered how I could buy up every DVD. How
Speaker 2: I could because that's probably how long ago it was
Speaker 2: that I watched it. I was humiliated and embarrassed by
Speaker 2: my performance, and I deeply apologized to the director Chuck
Speaker 2: that I had that performance. It was really bad. But
Speaker 2: that's my most memorable moment, just because it was awful.
Speaker 2: And also working with Sarah Jessica Parker and Helen Hunt,
Speaker 2: who seemed to me like the absolute coolest girls in
Speaker 2: the world, and they were cool. They were wonderful to
Speaker 2: work with. In season three of Charmed, we saw the
Speaker 2: show get darker and add more action. Was this something
Speaker 2: you fought for and had influence over or suggested? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I definitely had a hand in the direction
Speaker 2: of Charmed. It could either go very light and silly
Speaker 2: at times, or it could go very emotional and deep
Speaker 2: and intellectual and dark, which has always been my preference. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think you can certainly afford to lighten the mood
Speaker 2: sometimes with some silliness, but I've always been more of
Speaker 2: a more serious human being, so for me, it was
Speaker 2: more attractive to do episodes that were a little bit darker.
Speaker 2: But also because I didn't understand why, we just ended
Speaker 2: up getting used to these crazy demons in front of us,
Speaker 2: and sometimes would make jokes like, this is serious business.
Speaker 2: We need to kick their asses, and we don't know
Speaker 2: how strong they are, so let's be a little bit serious.
Speaker 1: So I think I did. But also also I.
Speaker 2: Just think our writers were really good and they helped
Speaker 2: take it into that direction, and our directors certainly played
Speaker 2: a part with how they directed us and got us
Speaker 2: in to those moments. And then you add Rick, our
Speaker 2: DP and how he lit everything.
Speaker 1: So it was a collective.
Speaker 2: Effort in taking the show in that direction while I
Speaker 2: was on it. What was your least favorite storyline on nine?
Speaker 2: Oh too and Oh definitely the cheating. Definitely, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: The cheating. The Dylan cheating on Brenda with her best friend.
Speaker 2: I still to this day can't stand it. I think
Speaker 2: I don't know what friend does that to another friend.
Speaker 2: I literally cannot get over that. And I don't really
Speaker 2: like cheaters, So there's that as well. Would you ever
Speaker 2: do a guest spot on any TV shows currently on Airon?
Speaker 2: What TV shows would you like them to be? Ooh, well,
Speaker 2: my number one choice would have been Succession, but it's
Speaker 2: now done. But oh my goodness. So on the drama side,
Speaker 2: there's a new show called The Veil with Elizabeth Moss
Speaker 2: and I am obsessed with it. I would love to
Speaker 2: guest star on that show. As far as lighter comedy,
Speaker 2: I of course would still love to be on Sex
Speaker 2: and the City, and just like that, they're sort of
Speaker 2: a new name, just because I was obsessed with that
Speaker 2: show and I still kind of am. I watch it
Speaker 2: when I'm depressed or whatever, and it makes me a
Speaker 2: little bit happier. How about a TV show with you
Speaker 2: and Jason Priestley The wash Twins? Aha, Patty uh I,
Speaker 2: he's on a TV show. I don't know what would
Speaker 2: we do as the wash Twins. There's something about Brenda
Speaker 2: I never want to play again now to no question,
Speaker 2: ignoring the reboot CW series, do you think that Brendan
Speaker 2: Dylan wound up together absolutely. I do think that they
Speaker 2: wound up together. I think it was more than just
Speaker 2: about first love. I think for them it was a
Speaker 2: true soul connection and that never went away. When you're
Speaker 2: that young, you can make mistakes or think that you
Speaker 2: should venture out, like Dylan did with other women or
Speaker 2: with men. But I think as you grow older, you
Speaker 2: look back on certain relationships and think, wow, I wish
Speaker 2: I was still with that person, or I wish I
Speaker 2: had met them later in life when I was ready
Speaker 2: for that kind of relationship. And I feel that with
Speaker 2: Brenda going off to London and getting her own identity
Speaker 2: right away from her twin, away from her parents, away
Speaker 2: from Beverly Hills, and doing something that.
Speaker 1: She loved, theater, I feel.
Speaker 2: That that probably gave her a confidence and a maturity
Speaker 2: that she was lacking. And I do feel that Dylan
Speaker 2: and her would have run into each other, would have
Speaker 2: seen each other or something, and that that spark would
Speaker 2: still be there, but they would be in different places
Speaker 2: in their life where they could handle each other, and
Speaker 2: that there wasn't There was no more drama, It was
Speaker 2: just about this soul connection. So yeah, I do think
Speaker 2: that they would be together. What is a skill or
Speaker 2: talent you have that fans probably don't know about. I'm
Speaker 2: a really good cook. I'm a really, really really good cook.
Speaker 1: And I'm a really good photographer.
Speaker 2: That photo that's right back there is a wild horse
Speaker 2: at a sanctuary called Return to Freedom, and I took
Speaker 2: that photo. I have six more that are scattered around
Speaker 2: that I took. So I'm a very good photographer and
Speaker 2: I'm a really good chef. So those are my secret talents.
Speaker 2: Was there a role that you really wanted didn't get
Speaker 2: and then when you saw the show or movie you said, phew,
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't get it. No, the roles that
Speaker 2: I really wanted, I saw them and I was like,
Speaker 2: damn it. I really wish I had gotten that role.
Speaker 2: But the person that they chose was better than me
Speaker 2: for that role. I would like her to talk about
Speaker 2: her Native American heritage and have it shaped her as
Speaker 2: a person. Yeah, and thank you for that question. A
Speaker 2: lot of people aren't aware that I'm partially Native American.
Speaker 2: I am Irish and Native American I have I'm a
Speaker 2: fairly decent percentage of Native American and it does impact me.
Speaker 2: It impacts me because I feel like Native American Indians
Speaker 2: are often overlooked, often, if not always, overlooked, and that
Speaker 2: that that is a big concern for me and something
Speaker 2: that I've diligently, behind the scenes investigated and looked into
Speaker 2: and tried to figure out how to help. I think
Speaker 2: there's I think I definitely get some personality from my ancestors.
Speaker 2: And I believe that this is going to sound super cooky.
Speaker 2: I believe that my Native American ancestors protect me quite
Speaker 2: a bit. They protect my home, they protect my house,
Speaker 2: they protect me, and I'm and in those senses, I
Speaker 2: am deeply, deeply, deeply connected to it. So Jason was
Speaker 2: already on your podcast, and I really wanted for you
Speaker 2: all to clarify the comment he made about you in
Speaker 2: his memoir when you went to visit you on the
Speaker 2: side of Charmed and you made the comment of it's
Speaker 2: either Alyssa or me, What do you have to say
Speaker 2: about that? I never said that, so I remember him
Speaker 2: being on the set. I certainly never said that. I
Speaker 2: did not have the the I probably had the power,
Speaker 2: but I didn't have There was no reason for me
Speaker 2: to say it, like I didn't really know her.
Speaker 1: I had never worked with her.
Speaker 2: I never experienced her, and my concern was always what
Speaker 2: is best for the show, and Alyssa had a large, large,
Speaker 2: large fan base. I wanted the show to be successful.
Speaker 2: So the bigger star my co star is, the more
Speaker 2: successful the show is going to be. So I don't
Speaker 2: really know where that came from. Jason and I could,
Speaker 2: you know, debate this all day long, probably, but I'm
Speaker 2: not a person who says stuff like that, and certainly
Speaker 2: not to Jason, because there's no reason for me to
Speaker 2: say something like that to him. I'm It's just it
Speaker 2: would be over sharing with someone that you're not close with.
Speaker 2: And he, meanwhile, was very close with Aaron Spelling, so
Speaker 2: me saying it to him would put me in a
Speaker 2: bad position with Aaron Spelling, and because he would obviously
Speaker 2: go and probably tell Aaron and not And by the way,
Speaker 2: I love Jason, but this is just you know, facts.
Speaker 2: So I did not say that. Sorry, sorry, not sorry, right,
Speaker 2: And I think there was was that the question that
Speaker 2: I saw and I was like, Oh, nobody's gonna breate
Speaker 2: that down for me to answer because they're gonna think
Speaker 2: it's too controversial, Like there's really no controversy.
Speaker 1: I just didn't say it. Period.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it. Maybe somebody else said it, but
Speaker 2: I did not say it. How would you want Prue
Speaker 2: to return? If Charmed ever got a proper reunion, Charmed
Speaker 2: fans dream for Proun Paige to meet. I would love
Speaker 2: Prune Paige to meet. I think Prue would be the
Speaker 2: strongest elder where she could be with the sisters, be physical,
Speaker 2: be there. I and I think that her page would
Speaker 2: just form like an instant rapport. I like to think
Speaker 2: that Pru has been watching over them this entire time. Anyway,
Speaker 2: how is your relationship with Jenny Garth?
Speaker 1: It's good, you know.
Speaker 2: I see her at conventions and we talk and you know,
Speaker 2: like we laugh. I mean those conventions. We work really hard,
Speaker 2: but we're all good. We're you know, we were Jenny
Speaker 2: and I were young, and I don't there are things
Speaker 2: that perhaps I would have done different back then, way
Speaker 2: back then. But I don't really particularly hold any grudges
Speaker 2: against anyone from that show. I just think that we
Speaker 2: all were experiencing something for the very first time, and
Speaker 2: when you are experiencing something for the first time, you
Speaker 2: have to allow, if to give an allowance for mistakes
Speaker 2: and sometimes poor judgment on my part.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm theirs. I don't really know.
Speaker 2: But I think that we're all good now, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I hope we are, so I would say our relationship
Speaker 2: is good. What is your favorite Brendan Dylan moment slash episode?
Speaker 2: It's when we went to Gosh, you guys on this show?
Speaker 2: Did we go to Rosa, Rita? Or did we go
Speaker 2: to Baja? I can't remember which place it was, but
Speaker 2: I loved, loved that episode. I think Luke and I
Speaker 2: had an amazing time. We were sort of isolated with
Speaker 2: our crew but away from the rest of the cast
Speaker 2: shooting that. And there was that scene where you know,
Speaker 2: Dylan started spinning Brenda around and we were dancing, and
Speaker 2: Luke and I had such a fun time shooting all
Speaker 2: of that that I will forever ever hold that as
Speaker 2: one of my favorite memories of nine period. What scene
Speaker 2: are you the most proud of from nine and Charmed
Speaker 2: n No, I'm not sure because it's been so long
Speaker 2: since I watched it, but probably Maggie playing Maggie the
Speaker 2: cat and doing those lines Tennessee Williams. It's not easy
Speaker 2: to do, and I think that actually having to like
Speaker 2: perform even a very small part of that was something
Speaker 2: that I'm proud of and Charmed, So obviously I'm most
Speaker 2: proud of two of the episodes I directed, not all
Speaker 2: of them, but two of them. But as far as
Speaker 2: the scene goes, But what was it? Was it the
Speaker 2: second season that Andy died, you guys, but it was
Speaker 2: when Prue was dealing with the aftermath of his death.
Speaker 2: I was dealing with a lot of tension on the
Speaker 2: set and it came out in my performance. But it's
Speaker 2: probably to date one of my best performances because it
Speaker 2: just was raw and you could see that Prue was raw, anguish,
Speaker 2: and those tears and those emotions and the voice cracking
Speaker 2: was like me literally just feeling so ostracized and alone
Speaker 2: and lonely that it came out in the performance. And
Speaker 2: I'm very proud that I was able to channel everything
Speaker 2: that I felt in real life that is incredibly destructive
Speaker 2: to my mental health, but that I was able to
Speaker 2: channel that into good which was my performance. So probably
Speaker 2: the most proud of that scene and doing any of
Speaker 2: my stunts.
Speaker 1: Because guys, that stuff is hard.
Speaker 2: Which goes what was the hardest scene to film and
Speaker 2: Charmed stn't work and that scene that I just mentioned
Speaker 2: my absolute favorite song.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so hard. That is so hard.
Speaker 2: I guess I would have to say Neil Diamonds Forever
Speaker 2: and Blue Jeans because it was my dad's and I
Speaker 2: song and it just reminds me of him. Outside of
Speaker 2: that song, I'm a very very very big You Two fan,
Speaker 2: like the largest You Two fan, and.
Speaker 1: I find.
Speaker 2: All of their songs, all of their albums to be
Speaker 2: incredibly inspirational and they make me think and want to
Speaker 2: do more in all aspects of my life. So any
Speaker 2: song by You two really, and it was such a
Speaker 2: deep respect for musicians like pink Ough. I'm her voice,
Speaker 2: her lyrics, her everything. She's unbelievable. Do you regret not
Speaker 2: coming back for the final Charmed No. I regret it
Speaker 2: in one sense. I regret it for the fans, but
Speaker 2: I don't regret it for me because I was so
Speaker 2: incredibly wrecked from getting fired that I think, even years
Speaker 2: and years and years later, I had I walked on
Speaker 2: that set, and I think it just would have stirred
Speaker 2: everything back up for me, and it had questioned me
Speaker 2: all over again. Please tell us about the support you
Speaker 2: got from the male producers Brad Kern and Charles Rosen.
Speaker 2: I do feel they both are what responsible one for
Speaker 2: the lack of support from both shows. Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent lack of support, particularly from Charles Rosen.
Speaker 1: You know, to each their own.
Speaker 2: But I won't say anything mean about him except that
Speaker 2: he was not supportive.
Speaker 1: Uh. And Brad. You know, Brad's an interesting one for me.
Speaker 2: Because I I didn't struggle with Brad as some others did.
Speaker 2: I and I and I didn't have any like inappropriate
Speaker 2: moments with Brad. I I felt like Brad was listening
Speaker 2: to me, and I was listening to Brad. I think
Speaker 2: later you find out that you know, it was all
Speaker 2: pretend and he wasn't listening, but then later apologize for
Speaker 2: that in a letter. And yes, I know you guys
Speaker 2: have said, can you read the letter? I'm getting there.
Speaker 2: Some of this is very hard, because you know, when
Speaker 2: you've buried it for so long or packed it in
Speaker 2: like a foul cabinet in my brain and locked the
Speaker 2: foul cabinet and hidden the key from myself, to dig
Speaker 2: for the key again and unlock that and start talking
Speaker 2: about it again can be emotionally draining. And I think
Speaker 2: sometimes some things will take me a little bit longer
Speaker 2: to get to, but I will. Is there anywhere you
Speaker 2: would like to go and visit that you haven't yet
Speaker 2: and what would be your bucket list of things to do?
Speaker 2: Crazy or low key places to go or people to meet? Ah, Tanzania, Botswana, Vietnam, Thailand. God,
Speaker 2: there's so many places I want to go that I
Speaker 2: haven't been yet, and there are so many places that
Speaker 2: I have been that I want to go back, and
Speaker 2: those are all of my bucket list I really wanted
Speaker 2: to really really really want to do. There is a
Speaker 2: safari that you can do in Tanzania and it's all
Speaker 2: on horseback, and I've talked to my girlfriend Julie about
Speaker 2: doing it with me, So that's that's definitely something that
Speaker 2: I'm going to do before I die, because that's a
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, it's a crazy idea to
Speaker 2: do a safari on horseback because I'm pretty sure the
Speaker 2: lions run faster than the horses, so it's a little crazy.
Speaker 2: But I love animals so much, and I know that
Speaker 2: when I went to South Africa and I did a safari,
Speaker 2: it changed my life. Not only because of the safari
Speaker 2: and the respect for animals that I've always had, but
Speaker 2: that just heightened it.
Speaker 1: But seeing the people.
Speaker 2: So I went to South Africa and I went to Mozambique,
Speaker 2: and I remember in Mozambique, I came across in like
Speaker 2: the village that the locals lived in, a fifteen year old.
Speaker 2: We were doing like a you know, ride through it
Speaker 2: and a car ride through it, open jeepear ride. And
Speaker 2: the fifteen year old kept talking about how badly he
Speaker 2: wanted to go to college. And I said, why do
Speaker 2: you want to go to college? And he said, I
Speaker 2: want to study medicine. I want to become a doctor.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, that's amazing. Why do you
Speaker 2: want to become a doctor and he said because I
Speaker 2: want to come back here and heal my village. And
Speaker 2: it just I broke down in tears. Like the purity
Speaker 2: of this boy and what he wanted to do to
Speaker 2: help his family and to help the people in his
Speaker 2: village was unbelievable. That place touched my heart and rocked
Speaker 2: my soul unlike any other place I've ever been, So
Speaker 2: anywhere in Africa, I want to go.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: As a director, do you have a say on how
Speaker 2: characters look like? For example, on your final Charmed episode
Speaker 2: shown for the first time, but looks completely different from
Speaker 2: other appearances.
Speaker 1: How does that work? Okay? I did. Yes.
Speaker 2: You would have to ask the other directors if they
Speaker 2: had an influence. My influence was I didn't pick out
Speaker 2: people's wardrobe, but I based everything the look of the show.
Speaker 2: The last episode that I was in and directed, I
Speaker 2: based it on a salvad Or Dolly painting. So I
Speaker 2: wanted the whole color scheme to be from this painting,
Speaker 2: and that meant that each character had to sort of
Speaker 2: stay in that color scheme. The lighting had to be
Speaker 2: within that color scheme, and the source had to be
Speaker 2: a certain look. It was all about a salvad Or
Speaker 2: Dolly painting for me. All right, that is definitely all
Speaker 2: I have time for. But thank you guys so much
Speaker 2: for listening to another episode of Let's Be Clear with
Speaker 2: Shannon Dherty. Get ready, you, guys, I have a couple
Speaker 2: of great episodes coming up about healing, about how I
Speaker 2: have been struggling for the last month with some depression,
Speaker 2: what I'm doing to combat it, and also some fun episodes.
Speaker 2: So I hope you all have a great week and
Speaker 2: that you enjoyed this week's podcast.
Speaker 1: Ye bye,