1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: You wanted more Pack twelve apostles, where you got more 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Pack twelve apostles. This is a quick bonus episode where 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: we get to the things you guys want to talk about. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: You guys, hit us up on Twitter, shoot us an email. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm mad, I am m a d at Unafraid show 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: dot com. We will get to you, and please make 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: sure you leave a five star rating wherever you listen 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: to podcasts, not a four star, and definitely not a 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: damn one star, which we are going to address today 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: from a Utah fan. Um, he's Ralph Amston. I'm George 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Rice Stir. You can find us on Twitter under those 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: handles follow at Pack twelve Apostles. So, Ralph, where do 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: where do we start? Where's the beginning today? Well, I 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: mean I've been chomping at the bits talking about this 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: one star review, um, because I had to figure one 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: was coming. Um. However, her, I'm not sure we properly 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: earned that one star review from this Utah fan. So 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: let's give people a little bit of backstory to what happened. 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: So we always encourage you guys to participate in the 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: podcast and of course leave five star reviews. And we 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: were joking on the last episode about Ralph being excited 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: about a four star review, and I was like, nobody 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: wants four star. We don't play for four star reviews. 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: But then and we got to talking about Morgan Scaly 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: from Utah. You gotta call him scally. That was part 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: of our one Scally Scally whatever. He's a he's a 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: dope at this point in point in time for for 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: what he did, But that doesn't mean we should not 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: call the man's name correctly. And he's Utah's defensive coordinator 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: who got caught using the N word. And apparently some 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Utah people don't like that it's being brought out or 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: even and voiced. People voiced in an opinion about it. 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: So Ralph, can you please for the people read the 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: one star review for us? Do I have to? It's 35 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: so long, it's okay, okay, just give us a cliffs 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: notes version. Well, here here's the thing I want to 37 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: I wanna before we even get to it, because I 38 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: know that it's it's fairly common for people to read it, 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to read something then go back and and then try 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: to like I guess rebut I just want to say. 41 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I just want to say, like from the jump, we 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: did not call for this man's job. Nope, So I 43 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: want that kept in mind that we did not call 44 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: for this man's job. And the other thing that I 45 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: think is really important to remember is Morrigan Scally admitted 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: to it. Yes, that was the thing happened. So I 47 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: just want to put those two things out there before. 48 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: I read this review from Guerrilla Bears with a z Ah, 49 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: the title of which was I can't even fathom how 50 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: pathetic this episode was. Uh and the episode was more 51 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: than just about that, but all right, here we go 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: from Guerilla Bears. I've listened to the podcast for a 53 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: few months now and have liked it decently so far. 54 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: The episode that came out today was utter Tracks, though 55 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: I I don't think I've listened to a worse podcast 56 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: episode of my life until today. I usually don't have 57 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: a problem with creators interjecting a little bit of their 58 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: personal political beliefs into their content, mostly because if I did, 59 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: there would be nothing for me to consume. But these 60 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: two decided to take it to another level. They started 61 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: talking ship on all the current informer Utah players that 62 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: were defending Morgan's Scally not Gaily and acting like the 63 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: players were delusional and stupid for defending his character. One 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: of them equated the situation to a little girl that 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: got kidnapped twenty years ago, but her kidnapper took good 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: care of her like she was her real mother, but 67 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: she still got kidnapped. Are you effing kidding me? Morgan 68 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: scally didn't even come close to doing anything equivalent to 69 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: kidnapping a child. Everyone everyone already condemns the use of 70 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the N word, but it's never okay. It's never okay 71 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: for anyone to use it. White, black, brown, blue, purple, etcetera. Wow, 72 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: so we know this person is white. Uh, But for 73 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: them to say he should be fired because of one 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: word in a seven year old text, when they don't 75 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: even have all the information and facts about what happened, 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: is baffling to me. Somehow, it didn't cross their minds 77 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: that this seven year old text just so happens then 78 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: now be coming to the surface coincidentally when racial tension 79 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: is I but I'm not surprised that they couldn't put 80 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: two plus two together based on what I is hearing 81 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: from them during the show. I think the host is 82 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: still butt heard about Utah walking into Oddsen and spanking 83 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: his poor little duck. That's the only reason I can 84 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: think of why he has so much hate for Utah. 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: But it's time for him to let it go. Already 86 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: I already moved on from the ask whopping we took 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: in the Pact all the title game from Oregon a 88 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: few months ago. But again I'm not surprised they can't 89 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: move on from ship that happened almost a decade ago. 90 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: The other dude was saying some stupid shit about there's 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: a thing called grace we need to learn to forgive, 92 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: but immediately after saying it, he says Morgan Scally needs 93 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: to be fired. This is unforgivable, complete mental dysfunction. Again, 94 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: these two don't have all the information. The person that 95 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: claims to have the screenshots of the text hasn't posted it, 96 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: so no one knows if it really exists or even 97 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: knows what it actually says. I'm not saying a text 98 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't get sent, because I think it did. But again, 99 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: wait for the facts to come out before you start 100 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: spewing nonsense like he said, a no no word. He 101 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: needs to lose his job. One last thing, if players 102 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: like Julian Blackman Terrell Bird just Marcus Williams, c Oc Mariner, uh, 103 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Derek Shelby, Nick Ford, and the supposed recruit. The text 104 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: was sent to Raylan Singleton. Guys that have spent years 105 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: with Scalion, countless hours being around him and getting to 106 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: know him as a person are all defending the man 107 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: publicly saying he is one of the best people they 108 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: know and it's not a racist. Don't you take their 109 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: word over some random throwaway Twitter account that claims to 110 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: have screenshots of the text, but still no one has 111 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: seen anything. It's time to stop being so cringe and 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: wait for all of the information to come out before 113 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: losing your ship then and seeing, dude, it's a it's 114 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: a fact. He admitted to it. And again, if you 115 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: use the in word, it is a fireable offense. We 116 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: didn't say that he should necessarily be fired, but it's 117 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: a fire able offense. And I also specifically said and 118 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I know that I said this correctly because I tweeted 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: it first. So I and when we were doing the episode, 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: I went back to my tweet. I was like that 121 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot that can change in a person's heart 122 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: in seven years, but you got to prove that there 123 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: that you and I actually used the term epiphanist experience 124 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: of pure religiosity, that that something happened, that there was 125 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: an impetus for a change in your life. So I 126 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: am not mad at this one star review, Ralph. Because 127 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: if if people aren't mad when you're being honest and 128 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: telling the truth and sharing from your personal experience, not 129 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: based upon conjecture but upon realness, then yes, but you're 130 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: gonna make people upset. So I am more proud of 131 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: this one star review than a bunch of five star reviews. ROLP. 132 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: That is a five star review for that episode. In 133 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: my eyes, the fact that somebody took the time to 134 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: type this out is pretty incredible. Um I I love 135 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: getting reviews. I don't care what star level. Therefore, I 136 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: think it's funny that people have started giving us four 137 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: star reviews. I listened to so many podcasts a day, George, 138 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: and I cannot tell you, I cannot tell you I've 139 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: ever heard of one that is just repeatedly getting four 140 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: star reviews as almost a joke. And so I'm honored 141 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: to really feel like we're starting a trend here, a 142 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: trend that you don't like. But um utah, fans have 143 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: to have to have a come to Jesus on some 144 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: of this stuff. And they have to realize that when 145 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: they come to Jesus that he was most likely a 146 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: man of color, and and and they have to realize 147 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: that this is not a white person's issue. Two deal 148 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: with you don't get to say who does and doesn't 149 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: get to say anything. You just get to listen. And 150 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Morgan Scally has an opportunity right now to listen and 151 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: to potentially change. I don't think it's in anybody's best 152 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: interest for him to get fired. If he got fired, 153 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: I would completely understand it. But I don't think it's 154 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: in anybody's best interest for him to get fired. I said. 155 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: I believe what I said was I could see him 156 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: taking a demotion for a year uh and essentially having 157 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: to earn his position back and prove through whatever means 158 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: necessary that he's willing to understand the difference in the 159 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: in the power balance between being a coach and a 160 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: player and how much something like that can hurt. And 161 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: I think that we got Utah fans that are worried 162 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: about how this might affect them in recruiting. I think 163 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: we've got Utah fans that are you know, like our 164 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: our our guy that was absolutely melting down on Twitter 165 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: tweeting the N word every fifteen seconds. The other night, 166 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: that Utah pig Bus Twitter account of the the man 167 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: of Asian descent who was just using the N word 168 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: as often as possible to show that like, hey, you 169 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: don't think you've ever used this before, watch me use 170 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: it a bunch um that that type of stuff shouldn't 171 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: go on. And that's like a Utah super fan, And 172 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: and it was interesting to see the reaction of Utah 173 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: fans telling him like, hey, you can't, you can't do this. 174 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: So they're willing to tell him like, hey, you this 175 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: isn't helping us, you can't do this. But at the 176 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: same time, some of them were turning around to say like, oh, 177 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: we need more contacts on the Morgan Scally thing. Um, 178 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: They're just needs to be kind of a reckoning. And 179 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: I think that it could be a really really good thing. Um. 180 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I think it provides an opportunity because you know, we 181 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: we often say stuff like ignorance is no excuse. But 182 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if you want to 183 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: change hearts and minds, hearts and minds have to change. 184 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: And this is an opportunity for a lot of hearts 185 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: and minds um of Utah fans, and they're definitely not 186 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: the only fan base that deals with anything of this nature. 187 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: But this is an opportunity for for some learning and 188 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: some understanding to take place. And I'm not a percent 189 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: sure that that can take place if Morgan Scalley is 190 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: just fired and they have to they get to move 191 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: on from it. The longer the ques around that program, 192 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the more people have to look in the mirror and say, 193 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: all right, what do we need to do differently? Yeah, 194 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: And I am a person who always believes that that 195 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: exile is not the answer all the time, that it's 196 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: an education issue a lot of times, and and some 197 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: sometimes showing someone grace can be the thing that that 198 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: causes them to change because you're like, Wow, you could 199 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: have fired me, or you could have done so many 200 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: bad things to me, but you didn't. It's it's like 201 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: the Bible verse that says that you know that if 202 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: your enemies hungry, feedom if he's uh, what whatever, because 203 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: it's like lumping hot coals on the on the top 204 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: of his head, And there's so much that big Because 205 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: when you just exile people that actually re forces their 206 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: beliefs instead of operating from a place of love, which 207 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: love does mean that you do have consequences. That doesn't 208 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: mean and forgiveness does not mean that you're immune from consequences. 209 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: So if so, if he gets fired, it is what 210 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: it is. If they keep him, it is what it is. 211 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it should, like we said 212 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: in the last episode, it should be up to the 213 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: players a little bit. Um. Next question, Ralph, So we 214 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: got one from Jedi A s U. He says, the 215 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: University of Houston was quite the false start that a 216 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: team can learn from. Does this false start put more 217 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: schools on edge? Um? And also do you think other 218 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: conferences would push forward where the PAC twelve holds back? 219 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: And what he's referring to is the University of Houston 220 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: had how many players Ralph nine, six or nine? I 221 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: think it was six. Yeah, So they had players test 222 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: positive for a coronavirus. And mind you, the PAC twelve 223 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: put all these uh precautions in place for players returning 224 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: who can go back and start workouts tomorrow, well on Monday, 225 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: and uh, the University of Houston when they brought their 226 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: players back, guess how many players they tested not a 227 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: damn one. They said they were gonna wait until see 228 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: if anybody was symptomatic. I don't know what Dana hogers 229 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: Um or Tillman for Teita is doing around there, but 230 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: that's a that's a shoddy that's a shoddy job, dude. 231 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: So to answer the question, he said, Uh, Houston was 232 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: a false start. Uh does this false start put more 233 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: teams on edge? I would say no, because they didn't 234 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: do any testing, so everybody's like, you buffoon, Like why 235 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't you do this? So I don't think that puts 236 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: more team on teams on edge. I think that Intro Florida, 237 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: I think having sixty players test positive or um Alabama 238 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: having players test positive. I think that that's what puts 239 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: schools on edge because now you're like, hold up, it's 240 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: actually in our population. So then people who are high risk, 241 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: whether it's some of our older coaches or people with 242 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: pre existing conditions, are now at risks. So I think 243 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: that that's what puts people on edge, and not Houston 244 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: because they did something stupid. What puts me on edge 245 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,239 Speaker 1: is like six out of the last seven days Arizona 246 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: has had over cases and so like that's the type 247 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: of stuff that puts me on edge. California just canceling 248 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: making Jay Sarah canceled their road trip to play against 249 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Chandler High um Or that could have been a home 250 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: game in California. I'm not sure, but either way, these 251 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: interstate games between California teams and Arizona teams at the 252 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: high school level are getting shut down. That's the kind 253 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: of stuff that makes me nervous. I think the IF 254 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: programs handle it correctly, and they make sure that tests 255 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: are available and that people are spaced out and they're 256 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: working out in small groups and everything that. You know, 257 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: we can find a way forward, but you're not going 258 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: to know until you have an opportunity to do it. 259 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: So I mean I I say that you you you 260 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: deal with the fires and you put them out as 261 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: they come. And it'll be interesting to see which players, 262 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: you know. We see NBA players and MLB players all 263 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: expressing their opinion on what they would be willing to 264 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: do and not willing to do, and there's all sorts 265 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: of stuff going on. It'll be interesting to see how 266 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: much power your random collegiate player has if they decide, 267 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody who's a big name decides I'm 268 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: not doing voluntary workouts. There's no reason for me to 269 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: put myself at risk until I have to be in 270 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: school exactly. There's no reason to do it until until 271 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: there's a reason to do it. But do you think 272 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: other conferences will push forward where the PAC twelve holds back? 273 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I would say yes, because I think the PAC twelve, 274 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: specifically with the with Stanford Washington, the state of Oregon 275 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: has already um put ease will stop there reopened for 276 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: seven days. You have COVID numbers going up in California, 277 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: like I think it was like thirty positive cases to 278 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: today and then death's lag behind. So this this feels 279 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: like hold up? Are the is testing going up and 280 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: positivity rates? You know, like you that's one thing, but 281 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: you always have to consider that. But you're like, whoa, 282 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: people aren't gonna be willing to shut down again. So 283 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: how bad would it have to get for things to 284 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: get shut down? Is the question? I don't know, man. 285 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: There's so much peripheral stuff going on all over the 286 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: country right now. Seattle, Washington has a police free autonomous zone. 287 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, is that going to extend to the University 288 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: of Washington and then all of a sudden will be 289 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: the pack of Levin Is is u W gonna go independent? Uh? 290 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: And and and shirk all authority? You know, freaking Tucson 291 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: is on fire. One of my groomsmen is up in 292 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: the in the Catalina Mountains trying to contain what is 293 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: something like a seventy thou acre burn Right now. Fort Collins, 294 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Colorado had a had a member of their football team 295 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: in Colorado State football team out in Loveland doing some roofing, 296 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: held at gunpoint by some old person who's watching so much. 297 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't know one America News network that he thinks 298 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: that someone wearing a face mask in the in the 299 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: age of coronavirus is Antifa. Like no, nobody's safe, nothing 300 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: is certain. These are absolute crazy times, whether it's natural 301 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: disaster disasters of our own doing and of our own making, 302 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: things are weird. Things are weird right now, And so 303 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm starting to believe the schools when they say, hey, 304 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: it might just be better to get us all under 305 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: one roof and allow us to get everybody in the 306 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: same place and take care of them. Because the thing 307 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: that I worry about the most, and you saw Clemson's 308 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: players take play part in a UM in like a big, 309 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: big protest in Clemson, South Carolina today. My biggest fear 310 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: is that some of these young guys, you know, get 311 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: wrapped up in some of the clashes that are going on, 312 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: UM and and and or cost an opportunity or potentially 313 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: cost a lot more than that. UM. There's a lot 314 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: to take into consideration, and I'm starting to back the 315 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: idea that, you know, it might just be good to 316 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: get all of those young men together, UM and give 317 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: them the opportunity to be in places where where they 318 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: can focus on the task at hand. You know. UM 319 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: that that's just that's starting to be my opinion. Anyway. 320 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: I think there's guys out there that I've listened to 321 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: talk about some of this stuff, whether it's Jimmy Lake 322 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: or Kevin someone, and I think to myself, like, man, 323 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: these kids will be better off just going to Seattle 324 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: or going to Tucson and not being put on lockdown, 325 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: but just given something to focus on. Because I don't 326 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: want to be reading any headlines that anybody got mixed 327 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: up in anything or got thrown in jail or worse. 328 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, I that's the last thing in the world 329 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: I want to see right now absolutely, Um. Now onto 330 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: what people said to you, Um, we had oh oh no, 331 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to me. So recruiting is going crazy right 332 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: now because you have um which which will cover on 333 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: the next episode about recruiting, where rankings are and all 334 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: of these things. But I've been going down the message 335 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: board rapid hole, Ralph, and it's just berserk. How fans 336 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: are always ready to jump off the ledge on the ledge. 337 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: But I can tell you overall right now packed twelve, 338 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: recruiting is not aside from USC and Oregon, it's not 339 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: going well at all. Period. It is not there a 340 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: USC and Oregon are are absolutely killing it right now. Um. 341 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: I think they have a combined twenty nine commits or 342 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: something like that. Most incredibly talented. USC is actually getting 343 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: some of their some of the elite California talent to 344 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: stay home. They've got Jake Garcia and Miller Moss, two 345 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: of the top ten players in California, both happen to 346 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: be quarterbacks, are both currently committed to to USC, as 347 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: well as Um gay O t Ote. I think I'm 348 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: saying that right out of out of Las Vegas, Nevada. 349 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: Bishop Gorman he's a He's a USC. Commit and then 350 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: you just had a huge to commit the number two 351 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: player in all of California, Troy Franklin UM from from 352 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: Menlo Atherton. He just gave his pledge to to Oregon. 353 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: So those two teams are doing really well. Everybody else 354 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: is struggling. I there's no there's no other way for 355 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: me to put it. Stanford has four commits, Arizona State 356 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: has five. UM it looks here like Colorado, at least 357 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: on the rivals rankings. Colorado and Arizona are both dead 358 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: last with three And one of the big issues there 359 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: is that a bunch of colleges that struggle to get 360 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: anybody before signing day have fourteen fifteen recruits already verbally committed, 361 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: just because of the strange times that we're living in 362 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: and people wanting to make sure that they um that 363 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: they secure spot before everything fills up. So I mean, 364 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Central Michigan has twelve, Western Michigan has thirteen. James Madison 365 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: is not even an FBS school and they're ranked in 366 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: the top one in UM in the rivals recruiting the 367 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: team recruiting rankings right now because they have seven commits. 368 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: James Madison University has seven commits and that's more than 369 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: Colorado and Arizona combined. That's terrible. Like, look at Bowling 370 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: Green has nine. Bowling Green has nine, Northern Illinois has thirteen. 371 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I honestly outside of outside of U c. L A. 372 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: And Washington is doing pretty well. Um, if this was 373 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: a regular year, you look at Washington and saying that 374 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: they're doing really well. Um, but SMU has ten commits, 375 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Toledo has fifteen. Toledo right now, Toledo is the number 376 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight ranked team in the country. Wake Forest has fifteen. 377 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: So it's crazy to me. Yeah, but it's only June. Ralph, 378 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: it's suddenly June. Don't panic. I'm like, yeah, okay, and 379 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: this year, this year, it's okay to panic. If you're 380 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: already panicking, then you just get a panic discount. You 381 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: just get a panic about other stuff, just concluded in 382 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: in your eternal mental scream that you have going on. 383 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: It's oh, it's completely okay to do that. The next question, 384 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: why do Washington fans think they're a blue blood when 385 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: they've only had two good seasons in the past twenty 386 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: plus years? Uh, why do Washington fans think they're a 387 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: blue blood? Explain to me, what, like are we saying 388 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: that Washington fans put themselves on the level of Alabama Auburn? 389 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: What are Obama but but Auburn? Like like that they 390 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: think that they are a blue blood program like US 391 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: an Oregans level. Yeah, but no, no, but but Washington 392 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: fans don't think that Oregans a blue blood. But is 393 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: that the rivalry? Is that the rivalry talking? They say, 394 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: because they haven't won a national championship, so that doesn't 395 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: make them a blue blood even though that they have 396 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: shared one. Um I mean, but okay, true. Truthfully, here's 397 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing. When you look at Washington literally since 398 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: nineteen nine, I'm sorry, since yes, since ninety one when 399 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: they shared the got voted half of a national championship, 400 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: they've had um four seasons of tens of ten wins 401 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: or more. Four since nineteen ralph four. Like it's just 402 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: hard to be like, it's hard to add a bunch 403 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: of seven and six is in there? Eight and four, 404 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: seven and four. It's just one of those things. I 405 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: look at it, and they've missed a lot of bold 406 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: games and all that stuff. We're haven't won a lot. 407 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: So it's like Washington is a program that should be 408 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: respected because they can be good. They have shown the ability. 409 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: But I don't see like like when I think of 410 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Washington and I'm a pack twelve guy, like I don't 411 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: put them on the like if if if you were 412 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: equating it ralph to other conferences, who would you say 413 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: Washington is in like the SEC in the SEC um 414 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: great things. Oh, they're gonna hate this because because of 415 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: the whole copyright lawsuit or whatever. But um, great fans 416 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: support strong teams, put a ton of people in the NFL, 417 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: but rarely when the conference there Texas A and M. Yep, 418 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: that is not a bad comparison. That's not a bad 419 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: comparison at all because if you were looking at the 420 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: history of the conference, Alabama would be well, USC would 421 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: be the Alabama of the conference, you know what I mean? 422 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: Like so and I and I think that that's a 423 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: good comparison, that that Texas A and M thing is 424 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: um and if they were in the A C C 425 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: they would be you know, I guess what Florida State 426 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: is now, you know what I mean, Like, not not 427 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: what they were because truthfully, like they've been better, like 428 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: what Florida State has been been better? So I just 429 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: think that Washington is a team who has Jimmy Lake 430 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: is the head coach now. Chris Peterson helped elevate the 431 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: program back to that respectable level because they had just 432 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: been kind of middling for a while. And I do 433 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: think that they do have a chance to take it 434 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: to the next level because they have put a ton 435 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: of guys in the NFL. But um, I heard a 436 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: comparison that people believe that Jimmy Lake could be the 437 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Clay I mean the Clay help Not I mean Clay Helton, 438 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: I meant um uh oh lord, what was the Oregon 439 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: coach before Willie Dagger Help, Helfrid Helfred, Mark Mark Helfridge. 440 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: They're like, is he the Mark Helfridge for Washington? And 441 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, and recruiting is not necessarily at the level 442 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: that they thought it was gonna be, you know, I 443 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: think that, yes, it's still only June, but you don't 444 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: want to have to scramble for a class. You wanted 445 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: to come together kind of smoothly throughout the year like 446 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: USC and Oregon are doing right now there. I mean, 447 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: they're five and ten in Bowl games in the last 448 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: twenty one years, five and ten. So and and Ty 449 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Willingham and Keith Gilbertson. They never even made it to 450 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: a bowl. So here's the thing, here's where I set 451 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: the benchmark for Jimmy Lake. It's are you better than 452 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian because you Steve Sarkisian is really who righted 453 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the ship. He he turned things around there, he got 454 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: the recruiting going again, he made them respectable, and he 455 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: was good enough to get the attention of USC right 456 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: so um, but he only went thirty four and twenty nine. 457 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: But he had to rebuild. Jimmy Lake doesn't have to rebuild. 458 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: So I guess that's that's what it comes down to 459 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: for me is are you are you better than I 460 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: guess the later seasons of of Steve Sarkisian um of 461 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: going him going seven and six, you know, three times 462 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: in a row and finally breaking the mold and going 463 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: eight four, but then they still went five and fourign 464 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: conference four years in a row. Can he get six 465 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: conference wins? If he can get six conference wins, then 466 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: I think they should feel pretty good in that first season. Yeah, yeah, 467 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: I would. I would agree with that, like and then 468 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: and then at least get two of those not wow, 469 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: if you only get six conference wins, and so do 470 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: you think they beat Michigan or lose to Michigan. Uh, 471 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: neither team really has a quarter back in place right now. Honestly, 472 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: I I I want to give that one to Michigan. Um, okay, 473 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: so then that only puts me at eight wins, it 474 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: puts my eight and four then yeah, and then if 475 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: they can get a bowl game, I mean, then that'll 476 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: be better than that would be better than Star ever did. Yeah, 477 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: but they weren't happy with the eight and five this 478 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: year though. Um. And the last question is I don't 479 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: know why we ended up with some Washington hate on here. Um, 480 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: but all you Washington fans make sure that you guys 481 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: send in yours because there isn't We are no discriminator 482 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: or a person. So if you send it in, even 483 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: though I'm an Oregon guy, I will address it. Um. 484 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: If you only beat your rival five times in the 485 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: past twenty two years, can you even brag by the 486 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: way you, dub Is asked brag about what? I mean? 487 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: I think there's plenty of stuff that Washington can brag about. Um, 488 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: they brag about that stadium, and they can brag about Ah, 489 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: those Nike uniforms are are are nice. They can brag 490 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: about all the nfloforms. It's not the move yet, it's 491 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: not the move. See. When I think of Washington, I 492 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: think of that gold swoosh. Man, I didn't, I didn't 493 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 1: realize that. I like, I love Adidas for some teams. 494 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: I think Adidas is the right move for a lot. 495 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: My my Wyoming Cowboys just moved to Adidas, like freaking 496 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: I love it. But but yeah, that's crazy. When I 497 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: think of Washington, I think a Nike. Yet. I don't 498 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: know how I let that one slip my mind. There's 499 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that they have to be to 500 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: be proud of. Um, and I get the rivalry hate 501 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: and everything like that. Here's another one. We just got 502 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: a late breaking question. Um, so I'm I'm pretty happy 503 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: about this one. It's just who do you think will 504 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: be the surprise team? Um, if anybody this year? And 505 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: that's from Jennifer walk Up. Um which team? Oh? She 506 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: asked two questions right on the first one is which 507 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Pack twelve team is likely to surprise us good or 508 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: bad this season? And which game is most likely to 509 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: be the tell game for each Pack twelve team this season? Um? Well, 510 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: I think the tell game is going to be everybody's 511 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: biggest stat of conference game, if they're even allowed to 512 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: play out of conference games, because everybody's got not everyone, 513 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: but most teams have one, right, that's kind of the 514 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: I think what University of Arizona has Texas Tech. I 515 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: feel like that's about on the level of being able 516 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: to determine whether or not there, Uh, they're gonna be 517 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: able to to be competitive. Um. You we've got Michigan, 518 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: We've got Alabama. Those are the games to me that 519 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: are definitely the most important because the pack twel is 520 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna do what it doesn't beat up on each other. 521 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: That's definitely going to be the case. And as far 522 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: as which pack twelve team is most likely to some 523 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: ris us good and bad. Um, I think the bottom 524 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: could drop out for USC. I think that we're we're 525 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: basically depending on Keaton Slovis to be healthy and he 526 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: hasn't you know, you had the elbow thing and the concussion. Um. 527 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I think they're wholly dependent on him, That's my opinion. Uh, 528 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: and them being bad would be a surprise. And I 529 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: would also say that there is a legitimate possibility if 530 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: Stanford loosens up a little bit with the number one 531 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: recruit in the country under center that we could be 532 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: surprised by Davis Mills in that offense. I would say, 533 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: for me, the biggest surprise could be Stanford. They are 534 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: that David Shaw needs to let like get rid of 535 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: that antiquated offense. It's not gonna work. Intellectual brutality is dead, dude. 536 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: You gotta sling the rock around on some level. You 537 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: don't have to go air aid. What you do have 538 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: to have much more balanced and not just play conservative 539 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: running punt football like that's that's not gonna work. But um, 540 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: the other team that I think that could surprise would 541 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: be I think that if I think that Arizona State 542 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: in u c l A have huge potential to surprise 543 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: because they both well, I would say that Arizona State 544 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: because they have a good quarterback, especially in Jade Daniels, 545 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: like that they have an opportunity to do something fantastic. 546 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: But if you look at Jade Daniels stats, they weren't 547 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: super impressive. But he's just a winner, so it could 548 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: also regress in the other way as well. If his 549 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: stats don't improve dramatically, you could be looking at you know, 550 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: of your you could be looking at oh Man, I 551 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: thought this kid was so great, but it turn turns 552 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: out he's Manny Wilkins two point out. Um. In terms 553 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: of non conference games, for the most important games, I 554 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: would say Washington in uh, Michigan. That game is huge 555 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: for the conference and for Michigan. I'm sorry, and for Washington, 556 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: Like the conference needs Washington to win the game, and 557 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Washington to win their game. Oregon in 558 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State, even though it would likely be an upset 559 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: if Oregon wins that game because Ohio State is gonna 560 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: be favorite, but still, like that would be a tremendous 561 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: win for how people view the conference. And I would 562 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: also say if USC can hang close with Alabama, like 563 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: not get the doors blown off, that that even if 564 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: they lose and it's like a three point loss and 565 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: then USC goes on to have you know, ten wins, 566 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: that would be a huge win. Yeah. Yeah, um, that's 567 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: I like it. Good podcast, George. 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