WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Virtuosity 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.519 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.000 Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.880 This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.320 today we are going to be covering the nineteen ninety 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:24.279 five action sci fi thriller Virtuosity, a movie that you 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.120 will probably remember even if you haven't seen it, because 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.800 in nineteen ninety five you could not help but be 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.600 exposed to the trailer where Russell Crowe struts through a 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.880 future mall in a baggy purple suit and the tune 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.760 is the Beege's Staying Alive. It was like one of 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.199 the most iconic uses of a needle drop in a 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:44.519 trailer from the nineties. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.920 That's right, that's right. And this one, as we'll discuss, 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.600 does have quite a needle drop score. It also has 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.760 an original score as well, but a lot of needle 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:57.160 drops in here. It really really sets the tone for 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.000 the mid nineties looking to late nineties. Feet. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.000 Yeah, so I want to briefly tell a story of 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.040 the roundabout way we came to feature this movie today. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.480 So next week is going to be our two hundredth 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.880 episode of Weird House Cinema. I think we still haven't 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.440 picked the movie for next week, but that makes today 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.720 the one hundred and ninety ninth episode. And Rob, when 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.319 you and I were batting ideas around, you mentioned the 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.720 possibility of doing a movie set in the year nineteen 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.240 ninety nine for the one ninety ninth episode. I think 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.920 that was a stroke of genius, and folks, there are 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.840 a lot of dope movies set in ninety nine, usually 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.840 made in the eighties or nineties, imagining nineteen ninety nine 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.679 as a terrible dystopian turning point. So I was looking 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.280 at our options and for a while I thought that 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.560 we were going to be talking about End of Days 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.680 starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. For those of you who mainly remember 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.040 Arnold's roles as a terminator or an elite commando of 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.280 some kind, this is a bit outside his normal range. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.720 It is a Y two k Anti Christ movie in 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.440 which Arnold has to shoot the devil with a machine 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.080 gun to prevent the titular end of Days. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.880 Yeah, a movie in which Arnold plays sort of an everyman. Also, 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.400 I guess, sort of a super cop. But yeah, it 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.240 gets type. I don't want to see Arnold play in 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.239 every man. I want to see Arnold play like a 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:27.120 crom chosen champion that has been forged out of trauma 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.040 and loss into a human weapon. That's what I want 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.120 out of my Arnold roles. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.040 Well, I think the even weirder thing is the context 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.680 that it's like a religious supernatural thriller. It's like The Omen, 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.000 but with Arnold in it. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:40.800 Yeah. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:42.679 I haven't seen End of Days in a long time. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.880 I barely remember it. But Rob, didn't you say there's 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.400 something about the year nineteen ninety nine in it that 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.799 plays into a prophecy? Yeah? 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.839 Yeah. The only things I remember are that, a, there's 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.359 a really cool bat creature in it, but also very 0:02:55.480 --> 0:03:00.799 like brown and dark, very saturated looking, but still monster. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.280 And then there's this whole thing about how well six' 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:08.000 sixty six really means nine ninety nine because in dreams 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.519 numbers are inverted or upside down or. Something IT'S i 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.680 remember it sounded pretty cool until you thought about it 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:15.200 for like two. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.800 Seconds so, Anyway end Of days that is deliciously weird 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.280 as a. Pitch it does apparently have glorious delivery on 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.800 the theme of nineteen ninety, Nine but UNFORTUNATELY i started 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.200 watching that one MAN i was just not feeling it 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.679 for this. Week the vibes were a little too serious and, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.280 grim a little too much kidnapping of babies and pouring 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.800 rattlesnake blood on. Them it just kind of bummed me, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.320 Out SO i bailed On end Of. Days maybe we'll, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.200 COME i don't. Know maybe if you get past those early, 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.960 scenes it gets. Funnier BUT i wasn't feeling it this, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.840 week And i'm GLAD i ended up bailing because the 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.320 next MOVIE i checked out was another one said in 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.440 nineteen ninety, nine but in in a very different, direction 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.240 and that is AS i. Said nineteen ninety Five's, virtuosity 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.520 Starring Denzel washington as an ace cop with a with 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.640 a tragic, backstory a redemption, arc and a rarely mentioned 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:12.280 bionic arm h and also Starring Russell crowe as a 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.400 synthetic computer game villain raised in a sort of digital 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.120 nursery with a great teacher to student. Ratio but all 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.159 the teachers are serial. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.239 Killers you, Know i'm just now realizing that this movie 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.880 does have something in common With end Of. Days both 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.040 of these films are about like a sort of everyman 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:34.000 cop type figure going up against evil incarnate An end 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.839 Of days it's evil incarnate because it Is Gabriel byrne 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.000 as the devil who in one SCENE i believe peace 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.680 fire is peace straight. Fire and in this in this, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.240 movie we have pure evil in the sense that we 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:51.600 have a SUPER ai trained on serial killers and mad 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.320 men that will mild spoiler, here it's it's it's in 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.480 the trailer will take physical form in the real world 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.880 thanks to THREE d printing exactly. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.000 Right and that actually brings us to one of the 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.920 main THINGS i wanted to talk about at the top, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.480 here and that is that virtuosity is like a core 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.920 example of a nineteen nineties subgenre THAT i love THAT 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.240 i would here like to dub cyberslop movies from the 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.080 nineties where somebody gets sucked into a computer where The 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.080 internet tries to kill, you where a virtual reality game becomes. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.320 Sentient you, know he's, learning he's evolving at a geometric, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.320 rate and then at the end you've got a hack 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.559 into the main frame to kill the. Monster, now it 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.440 might take more than one episode for us to like 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.280 fully refine our definition of, cyberslop BUT i was just you, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:46.680 know WHEN i was working on the outline, HERE i 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.320 was trying to think of a few things these movies 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.640 seem to have in common that make them interesting to. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.200 Me one of the things they have in common is 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.839 that they almost always have atrocious EARLY CGI cgi that 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.520 was not ready but here it is. Anyway and usually 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.200 like at some, point either the villainous entity or the 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.840 mcguffin of the movie will be represented as a, floating spinning, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.479 icosahedron and then when it's, destroyed it shatters into a 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.560 bunch of. Triangles you know exactly What i'm talking. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.400 About, yeah kind of a mind's eide death star sort of. Moment, 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.120 Yeah and thinking about this made ME i went back 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.200 AND i watched a few scenes from the Original tron 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.279 BECAUSE i was. Curious it's, like did they have a 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.160 moment like this where where the MAIN ai THE, mcp 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:36.360 does it? Explode it doesn't, explode but so maybe there's 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.279 another film that really got there first with the exploding digital. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.359 HEAD i think for, Me tron is not. Cyberslop it 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.640 sort of pre dates, it and the cyber slab genre 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.200 is derived from movies Like tron and also kind of 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.479 Degrades tron's level of, imagination if that makes. Sense. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.440 Yeah, Yeah speaking of, THOUGH i was glancing at those 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.840 scenes From, tron AND i was really taking back at 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.120 how colorful and vivid everything. Is and this is probably 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.719 BECAUSE i haven't Watched tron since it was like ON 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.800 tv on an old school television back in the. Day 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.800 BUT i was, Like, wow maybe we really need to 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:12.559 come back and Watch. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.160 Tron, Oh i'd definitely be down for doing. IT i 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.040 watched that one a lot WHEN i was a. Kid, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.680 okay another thing about cyberslap, MOVIES i feel like they 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:26.080 tend to stylize, technology like the technology of the, setting 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.120 in amusing and sometimes even sort of thought provoking. Ways 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.960 so if this makes, sense it is not just that 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:39.040 the characters within the cyberslop movie have a particular style 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:44.160 and fashion, choices but it's like the technosphere itself has 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.960 chosen a, style a personal. Style so you get movies 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:52.720 where tech is goth or movies where tech Is Miami. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.280 Vice you, know neon colors and the shoulder. Pads sometimes 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.280 tech is, preppy and very often tech is pun. Punk. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.640 Yeah, yeah because of course tech should be, punk because 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.000 the whole genre has its roots in, cyberpunk, generally with 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.720 very strong connections to the literary work Of William, Gibson 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.160 but we could do a deeper dive easily that gets into, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.720 like you, know what are the earliest examples of sci 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.920 fi plot lines in which someone is inside of a 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.160 simulation or a virtual world and it goes back several. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.840 Decades, yeah and a lot of these movies are essentially 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:28.080 borrowing From William gibson type, writing but very much dumbing it. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.280 Down another thing THAT i think is interesting about these 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.120 movies is not unique to. Them they share this with 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:39.120 a lot of other nineties. Subgenres they feel very much 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.560 like they're from the end of. History and one reason 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:47.080 for that is that every piece of actual specific culture 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.760 that we get in these movies feels meaningless and, interchangeable 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.959 like it could be swapped out with any other piece 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.160 of culture from the same object. Class, so you, know 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.400 it's just a world where it's like insert work of art, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:07.760 here insert political issue. Here the cultural objects do not 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.840 seem to really mean anything in. Themselves they don't bring 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:16.360 their specific meanings and values from. Reality they're just examples 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.960 of a type of. Thing it feels, like you, know 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.760 they're selected from a drop down. MENU i really associate 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.360 this kind of storytelling with movies from the nineties in, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.000 general but especially These cyberslot movies have. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.760 THIS i wonder if there's a, case and to be, 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.439 clear very broad, case And i'm sure there are plenty 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.960 of counter examples, here BUT i wonder how much of 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.240 this might have to do with having like a lot 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:45.520 of up and coming filmmakers in the, nineties maybe more 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:52.520 like tech first style first directors and you, know screenwriters as, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:57.679 well tackling these films informed by the models that they 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.359 grew up on from the. Eighties from this AND's especially 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.920 that are taking a more like, direct thoughtful approach in 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:12.440 some cases to actual social issues and political, issues and 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.120 so there's sort of maybe in some cases at, least you, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.319 know echoing the, form but without really grasping the. Substance. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.120 Yeah, YEAH i think that may be on to. Something 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.600 i'll have to think some more about. That but then, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.720 also this very last POINT i want to make About 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.360 cyberslop IS i think the most important, one and that 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.760 is that these movies are at the same time both 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:41.360 quaint and uncanny in the way they depict technologies like virtual, REALITY, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:46.120 ai The, internet and digital. Media and WHAT i mean 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:51.040 by that, is on one, hand it's genuinely so cute 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.320 that somebody in the year nineteen ninety three decided to 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.880 write a whole screenplay about like The. Internet you, know 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.960 it's some kind Of internet, thriller and it obviously has 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.880 such a vague understanding of what The internet is and 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.040 how it. Works you'll have like characters navigating cyber space 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.760 with a, joystick you, know that's how you get through The, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:14.839 Internet and so it's just. Adorable thinking about that kind 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.120 of relationship to technology is like looking at a puppy falling. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:23.480 Asleep on the other, hand stories like, this with their very, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:31.080 loose technically, inaccurate overly, concrete overly, personalized almost symbolic depictions 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:36.320 of these, technologies can feel weirdly prescient on the metaphorical, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:41.360 level usually in their ability to imagine what it feels 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.920 like to be acted upon by these technologies in their 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.360 maturity in the future we live in. Now, so for, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:52.640 example imagine a hypothetical cyberslop movie from nineteen ninety six 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.920 where somebody hacks The internet so that The net becomes 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.720 a self evolving malevolent entity that wants to destroy. You 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.360 it's both like dumb in nineteen ninety, six and it 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.080 takes a kind of technological ignorance to write, it but 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.400 it also captures something very real about what it would 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.360 come to feel like to be An internet user in 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:16.080 twenty twenty. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.360 Five. Yeah, Yeah, PLUS i guess we have to remind 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.360 ourselves that a lot of these, films they are exploitive 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.240 to a certain. Extent there's some sort of like t exploitation, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:30.520 film and you, know you're often ex you're exploiting a, 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.720 fear and fears are not always completely formed and certainly not. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.960 Rational Like i'm thinking about smart killer smart house movies 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.680 from the. NINETIES i remember one in The Sci Fi 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.800 channel where there was like a hand that went around 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.800 on a little track on the ceiling in the house 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.560 and like all, That like that's completely, Ridiculous but, LIKE 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.560 i don't doubt for a second that it comes from 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.959 a legitimate fear that arises based on just what people were, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.760 saying like the houses of the future are going to be, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.000 Like and that fear maybe is not completely, gone maybe it's, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.600 matured maybe it's changed form a, bit BUT i think 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.800 we still have that sort of fear and it still 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.600 gets poked and kindled by various news stories about, oh 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.199 your toaster is. Watching even, so. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:17.160 Forth, yeah, exactly like that vision was overly simplified and overly, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.520 concrete but actually reality did catch up to the feeling 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.679 of that plot in a. Way so perhaps we can 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.560 explore more about this as we go, On BUT i 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:31.120 really think that irony is the case with. Virtuosity on one, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.280 Hand virtuosity is quite simple minded and literal in its 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:40.400 engagement with the technology, themes but there are some things 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.960 in it that feel unsettlingly resonant in twenty twenty, five 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.040 especially in the context of a movie that is in 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:51.559 most ways extremely nineteen ninety five's version of nineteen ninety. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.520 Nine. Yeah, yeah we'll get into this a lot, more 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.400 but CERTAINLY i think there are various world building details 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.680 and choices And virtuosity that hit with a kind of 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.960 almost idiocracy like, accuracy you, know like there's a certain 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.960 amount of maybe in a loose black comedy to the, Choice, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.280 yeah you're, like, oh that's a little. Close and then 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.040 its main, focus of, course we have an out of 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.640 CONTROL ai menace that gets itself THREE d printed so 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.920 that it can go on a viral killing, spree and 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.560 it really does sweep up various pressing anxieties about The 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.400 internet artificial, intelligence and in a limited, way the future 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.600 of THREE d printing of inorganic and organic. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.960 Materials i'd agree with you that the themes hit harder 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.600 on like THE ai and digital media front than on 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.040 the robotics. Front but STILL i don't. Know maybe one 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.400 day we'll catch up to the robotics. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.680 Element, YEAH i MEAN I at different times when there 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.200 have been accelerations in THREE d, printing there have been 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.320 moments Where i'm, like, oh this is like The internet 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.480 in all its, awfulness can now take physical. Form and 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.720 maybe on some LEVEL i was Remembering virtuosity trailers And i'm, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.360 like this is Like. Virtuosity it's like you thought of 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.840 it that The, internet and now it's on your. Desk 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.960 and granted we've had a little more time to sort 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.600 of grow with that. ONE i feel, like though there 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.000 are some still dangerous concerns out there in the THREE 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.600 d printing, world but for the most, PART i feel 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.920 like we've gotten a little more accustomed to what it 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.800 can do for us. NOW i also find it interesting 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.600 in these various films of this, subgenre ones that often 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.840 include like a digital or virtual, character and they really 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.160 get to WHAT i will refer to as job. About, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.920 yes referencing Lawnmower man, here which has a very, close 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.160 very close kinship with this, film in which you have 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.240 a character or AN ai entity that becomes a kind 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:42.280 of god complex black hole of negative personal. Attributes AND 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.600 i think this too nicely mirrors fears then as well 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.280 as fears and sometimes realities now about the virtual realm 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.920 of expression and consumption that we have in the digital 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:58.000 realm that might allow too many barriers of behavior to 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.600 erode in the shape of our virtual self than becomes something, grotesque, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.240 dangerous and maybe even. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.240 Evil, yeah once, again right. On i'm not going to 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.800 SAY i Think virtuosity did this on. PURPOSE i think 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.560 it may be a kind of accidental stumbling into this. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.880 Theme but you're exactly, right it's there and it hits. Hard. Now, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.160 now another THING i want to mention at the. Top 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:24.080 it is an interesting parallel With end Of days as 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.920 the almost choice as the alternate reality of this. Week 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.440 what's really exquisite about the pitch For end Of days 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.160 is the mismatch between the premise and the. Star, Right 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.920 like Whatever Arnold schwarzenegger was made, for it was not 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.280 to like march Through cathedrals by Candle light trying to 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.440 Stop satan from fathering a child On. Earth that is 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.880 a weird, fit and with today's movie there is something 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.960 similar going, on a. VIRTUOSITY i looked it. Up it 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.600 did have a mid sized. Budget it wasn't huge, budget 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.480 but it wasn't small budget. Either it was you, know 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.120 mid sized action sci fi kind of you, know in 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.800 the realm of what you'd. Expect, yeah, Yeah but it, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:09.199 is in both content and, execution a, bizarre trashy b. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.360 Movie and yet its two main stars are two of the, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:19.120 biggest most sought, after most RESPECTED a list, actors certainly 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.920 in the two, thousands definitely in the case Of Denzel. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.240 Washington like the last three decades Of, hollywood it's almost 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.959 like If Tom hanks was in Lawnmower. Man it's just, like, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.639 oh such a strange thing to. Imagine like When Russell 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.879 crowe did this, movie his big period was still ahead of. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.240 Him but When denzel did, this he already had MULTIPLE oscar, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.320 nominations he'd Won Best Supporting actor. Once so it's already 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.679 deeply strange and amusing that you've got the top tier 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.240 of Future hollywood in this dumb killer computer. Movie but 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.360 what's even more odd is that neither of them are 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.280 phoning it. In but both of THEM i think are 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.679 fantastic in this. Movie they're giving full, efforts really getting 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.760 into the. Characters in, FACT i would SAY i have 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.359 never seen A Russell crowe performance in which he seems 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.400 to be expressing as much joy through acting as he does. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.000 Here this is The. Pinnacle like His oscar nominated roles 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:20.520 are comparatively grim and. Subdued in this. Movie you get 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:25.520 him is a disco, strutting synthetic serial killer and he comes. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.240 Alive, yeah, YEAH i think you're. RIGHT i think we've 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:36.080 really only seen him get back into broad performances like, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.800 this maybe in the likes of twenty twenty two's thor Leven, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.119 thunder in which he gets to Play zeus with a 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.399 Ridiculous greek. Accent i'll come back to that one BECAUSE 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.399 i ACTUALLY i actually like that performance quite a. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.200 Bit, OH i haven't seen. That that makes me want 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.040 to see, it, Though BUT. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.480 I, agree, like, yeah both of these guys are arguably 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.159 better than this, movie but both of them really. DELIVER 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.480 i would, say In Denzel washington's, case he is almost 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.399 too good for this. Movie in the sense that not 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.399 that he's not great in, it but a role of 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.680 the sort sometimes hits a little better if you have 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:20.119 a less skilled actor or an actor that makes stranger, 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.520 choices whereas Like, denzel like all his choices are, Solid 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.119 like he's just a complete pro. Here you need somebody 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.320 maybe a little, sloppy a little, greener so that they 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.520 can shine in a role like. This but that being, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:34.160 said he's still. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.760 Terrific they're two very different kinds of performances that are 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:43.320 beyond what is required by. Virtuosity denzel gives a much 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.600 more human performance than you would expect his character to, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.760 have And Russell crowe gives a much more just like 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:55.320 scenery ingesting huge improvisational energy kind of. Performance. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.959 Yeah, YEAH i would say his performance is like a 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.720 little Bit, joker a little Bit joe from Lawnmower, man and, 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.600 also at least in the visual, sense a little bit 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.440 Ninety's Peter. Gabriel, yeah there you. 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:18.840 Go H, okay are we ready for the elevator? Pitch? 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.920 Yeah hit us sid six point seven is a computer. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.399 Program he is a sidistic virtual super criminal designed for 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.119 A vr training environment that will be used to test 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.360 the cops of the, future but the developers are still 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.679 working the kinks, out and in the meantime they are 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.520 TESTING sid against players from the prison. Population the only 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.639 one who has ever beaten him Is Parker, barnes a 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.560 former police officer who is incarcerated after his vendetta killing 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.120 of a terrorist who murdered his family and also killing 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.720 several other people in the. Process but, when through a 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.080 series of implausible, EVENTS sid six point seven gets brought 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.840 into our world and turned into a kind of meat 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.600 SPACE t one thousand and with blueberry, blood there's only 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:04.480 one man who can stop. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:08.720 Him, yep that's right. ON i would also present the 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.439 idea of, oops we THREE d printed a mass. Murder, 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.600 yeah that's also kind of. It this is the one 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.639 thing we didn't want to, happen and here we. Are all, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.480 Right let's go ahead and listen to part of the 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.399 teaser trailer because the main, trailer the one most people 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:25.879 have heard it prominently features the beg staying, alive and 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.199 we want to stay alive here on the. Show SO 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.600 i didn't want to feature that. SONG i love that, 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.840 song but you, know this is what we're playing. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.600 In this high tech crime prevention. Facility one man has 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:53.199 been recruited to play a simulated game the objective to 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:57.760 hunt down The Ultimate Virtual Reality KILLER sid six point. 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.640 Seven there's only one. 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:06.600 Problem the computer change the. Program now he's in the real. 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.440 World he's. 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.920 Interactive he doesn't enjoyed a game unless he's playing against 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:15.320 his favorite. 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:16.119 Opponent that's me. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:21.119 From the director Of Lawnmower. 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.080 Matt he's recreating mass. Murders so what you're saying' sus 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.520 a compika since six ten on improving the. ORIGINAL i 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.800 Love Denzel. Washington just Because i'm carrying around the joy 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.119 of killing your family inside me doesn't mean you can't be. 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.840 Friends virtuosity game. 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:49.400 Over speaking Of Beg Staying, ALIVE i bet The virtuosity 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:53.720 trailer is HOW i first learned about that. Song, HUH i, 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:55.880 MAY i may not have ever heard it before. 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.320 THAT i, mean somebody needs to be strutting when that 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.040 song is, Played and if that song is, playing you 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.159 will soon find yourself. Strutting that's just how it. 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.719 Works, oh this may be too embarrassing to say out, 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.080 loud BUT i bet as a, kid WHEN i Saw 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.280 Russell crowe walking in the blue in the purple Suit 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:15.560 beg's are, PLAYING i probably like strutted around my house 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:16.600 AFTER i saw that no. 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.720 Joke all, right you might be, wondering, well, HEY i 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.359 want to See virtuosity as well before listening to the 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.080 rest of the, episode OR i want to watch it 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.440 later and so. Forth, Well virtuosity was a major, release 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.280 so you can find it pretty much wherever you choose 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.359 to get your. Movies for physical, media, however there's no 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:37.800 beating the recently Released Vinegar Syndrome ultra, release which gives 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.400 us the film newly scanned and restored in FOUR k 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.159 from its thirty five millimeter original camera, negative along with 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.400 tons of extras like new extras interviews with the director 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.840 and other. Folks, it's without a, doubt the finest physical 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:52.000 release this film has ever. 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:56.520 GOTTEN i can't Believe Vinegar syndrome release Of virtuosity is 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.320 as close as we're ever going to get to A 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.520 criterion collection disc of Lawnmower. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:05.760 Man, Yeah Vinegar syndrome does, great great, work and this 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.440 is certainly the case. HERE i rented this From Video 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:13.240 drome here In, atlanta and, yeah it looks. GREAT i, 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.520 mean the digital effects are only going to look so, 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:19.240 polished as we'll. Discuss but then, again that only really 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.000 potentially hurts the film during the NON vr, segments as we'll, 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.240 discuss AND i will say that the goofy android makeup 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:27.960 and other practical effects look really. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.280 Great oh, YEAH i mean you wouldn't want THE cgi 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.280 to look too. GOOD i mean that's part of the. 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.480 Charm, yeah especially in those the simulation. Sequences. 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.159 Yeah, well SO i streamed, it but you, KNOW i 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.040 got a feeling this might not be the last TIME 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.399 i Watch, virtuosity SO i might have to snag this. 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.679 Disc all, right let's talk about the people who made this, 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.359 film starting at the top With Brett leonard born nineteen fifty, 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:54.280 Nine american director of films and music, videos best known 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:58.040 for his pivotal work in nineteen nineties virtual reality inspired, 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.399 media as he directed Both Today film and nineteen ninety 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.440 Two's the Lawnmower. Man, that of, course is The bonker's 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.200 virtual reality, film born out of an original script inspired 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.560 by the work Of Jaron lanier and the production company's 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.680 desire to keep Adapting Stephen king stories they own the rights, 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:19.119 to basically by slapping the title Lawnmower man onto a 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:19.719 pre existing. 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.280 Script this has nothing to do with The king story 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:24.679 is this one of the ones he sued. 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.800 Over, yes it's my understanding that he successfully got his 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.879 name taken off of this, one because, yeah has the 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.200 original stories about like a crazy satanic lawnmower man who 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.920 eats grass or something to that, effect worships the God, 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.320 PAN i. Believe, Yeah, yeah there's Some pan worship in. 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.600 There nothing to do with virtual reality. Now Brett leonard's 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.760 first directorial credit was nineteen eighty Nine's The Dead. Pit 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.399 this is a supernatural horror film with like the features The. 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.520 Undead i've never seen, it BUT i am super familiar 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:59.160 with ITS vhs box art because and you probably are 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.840 as well if you were of a certain, age because 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.920 this was A vhs rental store box that had light 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.879 up eyes powered by a little battery pack. Inside it 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.280 might have made sound. TOO i don't remember if it made, 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.560 sound but they definitely light. Up and this, one i'm to, 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.720 understand is very much a collector's item AMONG vhs. 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.639 Enthusiasts rob this we may have even mentioned this idea 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:22.840 on the show, before BUT i have thought that at 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.280 some point we should do a series of weird house 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.800 cinema episodes just focusing on films that had gimmick, packaging 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.280 stuff that had light up components or anything on the 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.120 box that's different than normal to get people to pick 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:36.920 it up and, say what's. 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:41.959 This, YEAH vhs shell shaped like a, coffin something like. 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.000 That i'm definitely here for. 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:44.240 It. 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:48.040 Okay so Lawnmower man was his follow up To Dead. 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:50.400 Pit and the thing, is we can all laugh about 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.919 what did and didn't work about Lawnmower, man but it 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:58.000 made a lot of, money especially given its small. Budget 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.240 it connected with A vr curious, audience and along with 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.240 this film paved the way for pretty much EVERY vr 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.720 film to follow up to and Including The. 0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:12.119 Matrix that's, right, folks without Lawnmower, man No matrix probably. 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.560 Probably there was An Indie wire headline from earlier this, 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.800 year an article By jim Hemp hill that covers the 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.399 vinegar syndrome re release of the, picture and its title 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.720 Is virtuosity walked so The matrix could. Run so this 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:31.600 seems to be the opinion of various, folks and it's 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.760 discussed a bit in some of the extras on The 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:38.600 virtuosity DISC i buy. It So leonard did not come 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.760 back for the Lawnmower man, sequel which is also pretty, 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.119 bonkers But hollywood did say, yes more of this. Please 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.040 so nineteen ninety five saw the release of the psychic 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.000 serial killer Film, hideaway based on The Dean koontz novel 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.720 and Starring Jeff. Goldbloom and Then. Virtuosity, so like we said, 0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:01.880 Earlier Virtuosity Paramount pictures, production bigger. Budget it ultimately did 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.679 not have quite the cultural or commercial impact that everyone 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.280 was banking, on but it received a fair amount of 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:12.160 reevaluation in recent, years especially with That Vinegar Syndrome Blu ray. 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:16.160 Release as we'll discuss the, film sci fi commentary hits 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.960 home in various ways given where we are now, politically, 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.720 socially and above all. Technologically and, YEAH i think a 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.240 strong case could be made that this helped pave the 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.880 road for things like The, matrix and then once The matrix, 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.960 explodes like how many folks are running around with machine, 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.040 guns sunglasses and some sort of like black latex garb 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.080 shooting in slow motion and going in and out of. 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.560 Cyberspace though it's funny because the black latex look you 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:46.320 only see from secondary characters in this. FILM i can't 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:51.440 emphasize enough the weird fashion sensibility Of Russell crowe in this, 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:56.640 movie he wears like brightly colored big, suits like, loose, 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.360 baggy double breasted suits of either the green, Set latin 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:01.040 or purple. 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:05.560 Variety, yes, well he likes. Attention he wants an attention grabbing. 0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:11.920 Outfit in the, extras particularly interview With, leonard he points 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.400 out That russell crow is essentially an influencer like he. 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.560 Is he's going after that influencer. Space he wants eyes 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.960 on what he is, doing like that is his prime, 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.000 Drive like not merely to do awful, things but to 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.080 be seen doing awful things and to get those hits 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:28.080 and get those subscribers. 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.320 Up oh my, God i've got too many deep thoughts 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.440 comments about this later on in the. Outline but, yes, yes, 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.920 yes that's what's going on here before that thing even, 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.080 existed all. 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:42.280 Right so virtuosity hits post. Virtuosity leonard directed AN imax, 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.920 film T Rex back to The. CRETACEOUS i might have 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.920 seen this one at this. Point there have been so 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.440 MANY imax and THREE d dinosaur, films especially as a, 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.760 parent That i've seen THAT i don't know where one 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.560 ends and the other one. BEGINS i always enjoy. Them 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.560 this one is apparently actually a huge hit for An imax. 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.760 Film at the, time WHEN i as a, TEENAGER i 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.920 worked selling tickets to tourist, attractions and one of the 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.760 PLACES i worked was An imax. THEATER i don't recall 0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.760 if they ever had this, one BUT i remember a 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.960 general awareness of. It all, right. 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:17.240 There's a chance it. Happened. Now later, On leonard. Directed 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.160 he directed a pair of two thousand and five films 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.880 that seemed very. Skippable one Is Man. Thing this was 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.640 an Early marvel entertainment film that missed the mark for various. 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.560 Reasons i've read, that like it was one of those 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.680 cases where the production was just too far away And 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.719 marvel wasn't able to like really have their hands in 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.440 it as much as they. Wanted and then he also 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.800 did a movie Called, feed which seems like one of 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.960 the many bad taste horror films to spring up in 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.320 the wake of ninety five to. Seven it also looks very. 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.560 Skippable then he directed two thousand and Sevens highlander The. 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.120 Source this was the final trickle of cinematic juice thus 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.200 far squeezed from the husk of The highlander. 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.840 FRANCHISE i assume No Christoph limbert. 0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:57.760 No he's in. 0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:58.480 It oh he. 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.800 Is, yeah this. Kid this is the period of films 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.360 where they had combined the movies and THE tv show 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.360 and like they were literally just throwing everything in and 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.200 just squeezing as much as they could out of. It 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.000 and maybe they'll relaunch it here in the next year 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.600 or two and we'll have so much more juice to. 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:21.400 Squeeze but this was like the last. Trickle but, hey 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.800 somebody had to direct these. Movies might as well have 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.240 Been Leonard. Okay, Now more, recently he directed the twenty 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.440 twenty one Drama, triumph and seems to be returning to 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.680 his roots with an upcoming project Called Dark, star not 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.240 not related To John Carpenter's Dark, star in which quote 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:41.320 a trio Of Astral warriors battle And ai. Threat it's 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.640 in pre production as of this, recording So i'm. Interested 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.560 it would be interesting to see what the director Of 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.920 lon More man In virtuosity would have for us in 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.600 like twenty twenty five or twenty twenty. SIX i am mighty. 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.160 Curious. Yeah. 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:58.280 Now his music video filmography Includes Peter Gabriel's Kissed That 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:02.800 frog from ninety. Three this was off of a terrific 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.920 album THAT i totally wore out in the. Nineties the 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.800 video is notable for its use OF cgi and A cgi. 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.400 Frog it was actually the first ALL cgi music. Video 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:17.400 apparently the cgi frog has really really red. Lips it's 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:22.200 like lipstick. Lips this was obviously a pioneering music, video 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.200 which is to say it doesn't look that great by today's, 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.360 standard not like a lot of Other Peter gabriel videos Like, 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.960 sledgehammer you, know which has all this great stop motion 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:33.640 and you, know totally stands the test of. 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.800 Time, no But Peter gabriel has a presence on the 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.840 soundtrack of this movie as. Well Guess I'm Your Party, Man. 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.160 That's, right a track co written By Tory. Amos. Wow, 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.600 Yeah SO i look forward to talking about the music 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:47.400 as we proceed. 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.440 Here, Okay, okay don't want to get ahead of, you. 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.240 But to finish With, leonard it is notable that he's 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.760 not just a nineteen nineties popularizer OF, vr sci fi and. 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.960 Tear he also co founded two different companies involved in 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.560 the use OF vr is the term he prefers as 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:06.960 virtual experiences for therapeutic. Purposes so There's Virtual, Psychedelics. Inc 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:08.120 And UBIQUITY. 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.880 Vx, okay no offense To Brett leonard at all about, 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.040 this but it is kind of an odd choice to 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:18.160 like the stories you have created and sent into the 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:23.160 world ABOUT, vr all about murder and about LIKE VR vr, 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.800 psychos you, know taking control and unleashing havoc on the, 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.000 world but then also like literally being involved and actually 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.360 USING vr for allegedly good. Purposes And i'm not trying 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.040 to impune what he's, doing. 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.000 No, no, NO i mean he based on the interview 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.080 THAT i watched on that, disk he does seem to 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.160 recognize the irony of, this and he's frames it is 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:46.920 sort of Like i'm giving back having having first helped 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:51.239 to create these visions of. Paranoia, yeah so fair, enough all. 0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.040 Right moving on to the. Screenplay it is By Eric, 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.560 burnt screenwriter perhaps best known for his work on this, 0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.200 film but his first credit to his screenplay was nineteen twenty 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:05.200 Four surviving The, game directed By ERNEST. R. Dickerson we've 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.840 talked about this before because we've talked About ERNEST Ar dickerson, 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.719 Before but this is the most dangerous game but with Iced, 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:14.360 tea hunted By, Rugger, Howard Gary, BUSEY F Murray, abraham 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:14.920 And JOHN. C. 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:19.399 McGinley, yeah Was, dickerson the director of The tales from 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:20.320 The crypt Movie Demon. 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.120 Knight he, Was, yes we talked about before on the. 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.280 Show he also wrote the screenplay for two Thousand's Romeo 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.560 Must die and has a story credit on two Thousands 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:29.279 Highlander End. 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:33.640 Game all, Right highlander connections from different. Directions, yeah there 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.160 was a lot of Work highlander. World you, know so 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.719 you got paid where you could get. Paid, OKAY i 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.640 think it's time to talk about our IMPLAUSIBLE a list actors. 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:47.160 Here, yes Playing Lieutenant Parker. Barnes you know his name 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.880 Is parker because it's set a bazillion times in this. 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.920 Picture, Hey, corker this one's for. 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:56.520 You. Yeah this, is of Course Denzel washington born nineteen fifty. 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.600 Four this is one of those moments where it's, LIKE 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.560 i don't have to tell anyone out there Who Denzel washington, 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.200 is BUT i will say it's just so easy to 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:09.279 take a talent like him for, granted because for people 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.719 around my, age it feels like he's always been. There you, 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.279 know he's always been there at the top of his. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.640 Game he's always been. Established he's stuck near the top 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.160 of The hollywood. Pantheon for decades and just continues to 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:23.360 bust out, powerful often award winning performances in, big big budget. 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.280 Films all, told he's currently a nine Time Academy award 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.319 nominee and two time. Winner at this point in his, 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.879 career as we already pointed, out he'd been nominated three 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.440 times and won. Once so you, know DARE i say 0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.600 he's coming into this one, hot having been nominated for 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.960 nineteen eighty Eight's Cry, freedom in nineteen ninety Three's MALCOLM, 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.239 x and having won again for nineteen Nineties. Glory subsequent 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.480 nominations would include two thousands Of The, hurricane twenty Thirteen's, 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:56.080 flight twenty Seventeens, fences twenty Eighteen's Roman Jay Israel, esquire 0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:00.239 and twenty twenty Two's The tragedy Of. Macbeth to, date 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.920 only other Oscar win Was Best actor for his excellent 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.120 performance as the dirty Cop Alonzo harris in two thousand 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.160 and One's Training. DAY i keep getting a wild hair 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.359 to rewatch that, one because that's a film that when 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.680 it came OUT i was really captivated. By it was 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.239 just like really, intense had some excellent twists and in 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.160 just a phenomenal sense of danger as well, as of 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:26.239 course at a terrific i'll, say villain, performance but it's 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.560 a little more complicated than, that you, know it's almost 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.960 like A shakespearean villain, performance which of course brings us 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.480 to The tragedy Of. Macbeth, that of course Is Joel 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:39.480 cohen's adaptation of The scottish play that also co Stars francis, 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.680 McDormand and it is also awesome and of course features 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.280 an amazing supporting cast that features a Few Cohen brothers 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.880 regulars as well As Brian. Thompson you might Remember Brian 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.959 thompson from such films as the Second Moral kombat, movie 0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.279 in which you Played Shao, khan and loads of like 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.120 ACTION b. Movies you, know he was often an action. 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.440 Star but he shows up in THE a is one 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:04.160 of the murderers and is. Terrific, oh in The tragedy Of. 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.439 Macbeth not In, Virtuosity, no not in. VIRTUALLY i would 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:08.680 be ashamed. 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.000 IF i had missed him In Virtuosity. 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.680 Somewhere, Yeah Brian thompson was also one of the punks 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.279 that gets beat up and or killed by the. 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.680 Terminator yeah that sounds. Right, Yeah, well AS i said, 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.760 Earlier Denzel washington is so much better than this movie calls. 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:27.839 For he's giving the more subdued and humanistic performance and 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.799 Allowing Russell crowe the space to just be. Wacky but 0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.520 it's both funny and genuinely like a pleasure to see 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:36.319 him in this. Role. 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:41.920 Yeah, leonard in the interview On The Blu ray commented 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.680 That denzel was pretty much at the top of his game, 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.279 here you, know requiring only mild suggestions here and, there 0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.360 and otherwise you just, like you just let him run with, 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.239 it and he nails it right out of the, gate 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.480 possessing what he described as an almost like superhuman ability 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.479 to know exactly where his face is in a given 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.360 shot and just maximize his, expression. 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.400 Which is interesting because that's a a very film specific. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.440 Talent AND i, Know i've read That Denzel washington very 0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:09.839 much thinks of himself as like a stage. Performer. FIRST i, mean, 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.440 obviously you, know more people know him from his, movies 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.160 but he you, know he's a very like stage and 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:16.640 theater focused actor in a. 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.800 Way. Yeah, Yeah, yeah he's back on the stage currently 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.480 as we're recording this as. Well but as far as 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.120 sci fi movies, goes it. Goes it's actually. Interesting this 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.480 is only one of three sci fi movies That denzel 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.840 has ever appeared, IN i, believe alongside two thousand and 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:34.080 six Is Deja vus and twenty Ten's The book Of. 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.719 Eli and of course he's still going strong. Today just 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.160 came off of a key role In Ridley Scott's gladiator, 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.239 too which is fitting given who our next star. 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.560 Is that's all, Right rachel AND i were just talking 0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.960 about this that it's got two Different gladiator actors at 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.279 the top, here and of, course, yeah of course that 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.000 brings us To Russell crowe AS sid six point. 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.520 Seven that's. Right do you think it. 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.040 Would have been different actors in the role of PREVIOUS sid, 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.799 releases like WAS sid three point Nine michael dudikof and 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.040 then by the time he get to six point, seven 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:06.680 That's Russell. 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.440 Crowe that that would be. Interesting that would if they 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.160 do A VIRTUOSITY tv, series you, know they could do different, 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.120 sids different. Actors it could be a sit of the weak. 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:20.160 Situation So Russell crowe born nineteen sixty, Four New zealand 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:24.400 born actor Of welsh And malory. Ancestry as With, DENZEL 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.399 i really don't need to tell you Who Russell crowe 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.319 is very famous, actor but with a DECIDEDLY i would, 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.719 say wilder reputation in a. Filmography to fit that, reputation 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.000 crow starred started off in music and, theater Including i'm 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.840 delighted to say Playing eddie in A New zealand production 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:42.200 Of The Rocky Horror Picture. 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.360 Show oh that's surprising. 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.279 But also kind of. Perfect you, KNOW i think he 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.040 was in he was like in a band at one, 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.520 point very, early you, know before he really got into. 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:56.840 Acting SO i can definitely See Russell crowe As. Eddie 0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.800 he has Meat, yeah, Yeah eddie was by Meat loaf 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.239 in The Rocky Art Picture show for anyone who's trying 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.960 to remember the. Casting, Now crowe broke Into australian cinema after. 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.879 THIS a couple of big hits here were ninety ninety 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:16.320 One's proof and nineteen ninety Two's Romper stomper rather famous 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.480 role in which he plays A melbourne, skinhead and these 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.799 films helped to springboard him Into american pictures and that's 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.600 really where virtuosity. Comes in the same, year he also 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.160 appeared in The Sam raimi Western The quick and The. 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.480 Dead Never seen that one is that one that also 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.279 Has Sharon. Stone, YEAH i believe she's the lead in. 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:39.280 It, yeah so. Yeah leonard also talked about about working 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.200 With Russell crowe and Said Russell crowe is also a 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.520 situation where you turn him loose and you just follow 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.759 him and, maybe you, know give him a few few 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.319 directions here and. There but he Described crowe as being 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.480 kind of like a bundle of improvisational, energy and so 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.640 a lot of his lines here that we, get some 0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:00.759 of the great, ones our improvisations that he brought to the, 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:01.880 script that he brought to the. 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.200 SCENES i think you can detect that without even knowing. 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.880 It it just comes through in the. Movie there's this 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.040 might sound like a wild, comparison but there is almost 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.200 A Jim carrey quality to him in. 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:18.960 This, yes, yes absolutely, yeah that kind of Like, Batman, 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.640 Joker riddler kind of energy where it's just you, know 0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:25.680 laughing and. Goofy like our man here is doing backflips 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:31.239 into THE ufc octagon and landing on his head seemingly on. 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:35.560 PURPOSE i, mean he's completely. Unhinged. Yeah So Russell crowe 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:40.200 followed all this with well received performances in such hits 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.880 As La confidential in ninety, Seven The insider in ninety. 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.680 Nine he got An oscar nomination for that, one before 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.759 his award winning star performance In Ridley Scott's gladiator in 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.560 two thousand and. One he was nominated the following year 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.799 FOR A Beautiful. Mind subsequent films of note include the 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.279 likes of two thousand and, Threes Mastering, Commander The Far 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:02.520 side of The world and One's American gangster With Denzel, 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.799 washington And Ridley Scott's Robin hood in twenty. Ten now 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.040 around twenty, Ten i'd say to credits start getting a little, 0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.000 weirder and it feels like he gets he's getting to 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.080 flex his muscles and supporting roles half the, time and 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.000 even some villain work, again appearing in the likes of 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.719 twenty Twelve's The man with The Iron, fists twenty Thirteen's 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.720 man Of, steel twenty Fourteen's, noah twenty Seventeens The, mummy 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.600 twenty twenty Two's love And, thunder which again this is 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.160 where he Plays zeus and he gets to just be 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.240 over the top and, comedic but also has at least 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:38.160 one key scene that he's just oozing with villainous. Energy 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.640 so it's very fun to watch a lot of people 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160 did not Like love And Thunder all that. MUCH i 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:45.960 didn't like it as much the first TIME i watched, 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.719 it BUT i really came around to it the second. 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:51.439 Time if nothing, else it's a wacky film with some 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.400 incredibly talented actors in. It you could See Christian bale 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.239 play a mad god killing, alien so you know it's 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:02.640 worth the. Ticket, Okay but then he's Lately crow has 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.560 been playing a lot of. Exorcists twenty twenty three Is 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.680 The Pope's exorcist and twenty twenty Four's The. Exorcist these 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.120 are apparently not related to each. OTHER i haven't seen, 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.880 them SO i can't fully. Comment BUT i don't know 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:17.440 he's just saying yes to exorcist. 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.400 PICTURES i haven't Seen The Pope's. Exorcist in, FACT i 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.799 don't know what it's about other than what one might 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.840 surmise from the. Title but it like pops up on streaming, 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.080 services and so in our house we keep making The 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:28.960 Pope's exorcist. 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:33.000 Jokes is he an exorcist working for The pope or 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.279 is he exercising the? 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.279 Pope many good? Questions is The pope possessed by a 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.879 devil and he has to exercise, it or do people 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.160 get possessed by the spirit of The pope and he 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:43.799 has to go exercise The pope from? 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:48.760 PEOPLE i don't. Know we're going to have to await 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.440 listeners to tell us how this all plays. 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.760 Out CAN i read a quote from The Janet Maslin 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.319 New York times review Of virtuosity when it came? Out oh, 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.000 yes please don't fully agree with Everything maslin says, here 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.279 but just for how it was received at the, Time she, 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:09.160 writes Mister washington is usually an actor audiences will follow 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.239 into any, dimension but here his role is, limited too, 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.960 often leaving him to play second fiddle to the film's 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:20.240 weirdly hypnotic special. Effects Mister, crowe as a psychotic yuppie 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.680 type bearing a disconcerting resemblance to the Writer Brett Easton, 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:28.480 ellis does a memorable job making himself frightening until the 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.520 film becomes numbingly frantic in the manner of many video. 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:35.280 Games while it excoriates the vicious sid as the techno 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.680 spawn of monsters Like Adolf hitler And John Wayne, Gacy 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:43.560 virtuosity also revels in his exploits with more enthusiasm than 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.440 is really. Necessary you, Know i'm gonna agree with the 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.759 later part of. That one of the downsides of the 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.520 film is like it's like mostly, silly but then sometimes 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.120 the violent scenes just get a little too. Real it's, 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.160 like oh, man that went harder than it needed. To 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.840 but the other thing, IS i like the characterization Of 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:06.360 Russell crowe here is as a psychotic yuppie type because 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.120 that captures something about the role THAT i didn't quite 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.560 put together WHEN i was just reacting to it. Myself but, 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.719 yeah there is a kind of urbanity to, him do 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.399 you know WHAT i? Mean like he's kind of he's 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.880 kind of suave and sophisticated at the same time that 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:25.320 he is supposed to be an, uncontrollable, manic psycho, killer 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.280 and that is clearly it's part of what the appeal 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.719 of the character. Is but it also, FEELS i don't, 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:37.080 know it's like a very unfocused. Characterization this character is 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.440 just a lot of things thrown at the, wall you 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:39.680 know WHAT i. 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.040 Mean, yeah but of course that also is exactly what he. Is, Like, 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.279 yeah there's like a multiple personality situation going. On but, 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.600 yeah then also as it's you, know it's brought to 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.480 life on the, screen you can see so many different influences, 0:45:51.480 --> 0:46:02.000 there all, right getting into the rest of the, cast 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:03.799 AND i should say the rest of the cast is 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.200 very much the rest of the cast. Here, yeah you, 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:10.399 know they're all supporting what our two stars are. Doing 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.640 but we Have Kelly lynch playing the Character Madison carter 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.640 born nineteen fifty Nine american, actress best known for performances 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.880 in nineteen eighty Nine's Drugstore, cowboy as well As roadhouse 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.400 from the same. Year she's continued to work steadily in 0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.480 film AND, tv appearing in such series As THE L, 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.040 Word Magic, City Mister, mercedes And. 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.520 Physical you know how whenever a copy gets thrown off 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.520 the force is brought back for one last. Job he 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.200 always has to get a new. Partner here's your new partner. 0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:40.000 Exactly and so it is very much a supporting role 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.640 in the most limited sense of the. Word like everything 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.040 she's doing is here to support the characterization Of Denzel 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.960 washington's character and have her kid. 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:52.279 Kidnapped we'll. Discuss she does get to shoot the human 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:52.920 bad guy at the. 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.480 End that's. True that's. True. Oh in speaking of human bad, guy, 0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:00.440 yep it Is Lynden, meyer played By Steven. Spinella for 0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:04.080 nineteen fifty. Six this was only his third film. Appearance but, 0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:08.759 man this guy has tremendous weird energy because he's the 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:13.680 creator OF sid six point. Seven but also it's clear 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:17.520 that he's now completely enraptured by his creation and is 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:21.560 worshiping his creation and wants to do anything he. Can 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.919 he has a true love for this awful thing that he's. 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:29.200 Made he's. Continued spinell has continued to milk his weird 0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.520 energy and some other great weird productions over the. Years 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.600 nineteen ninety Nine's. Ravenous another film THAT i think would 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:39.080 be interesting to revisit in twenty twenty, five twenty Ten's, 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.480 rubber and that's one that's been recommended to us. Before 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.440 and then Also Steven Soderberg's The, nick WHICH i am 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.799 struggling to remember who he. Played there were a lot 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.160 of actors coming in and out of that shows what 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.520 two season. Run But i'm a big fan Of The. 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:59.000 Nick all. Right we also Have William forsyth Playing William. 0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:03.839 Cochrane this is this character is the what he's the police, chief. 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.480 Right he's, Like you're the best COP i ever worked, 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.640 With you're the absolute. Best i'm the in as well 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.160 as he's, Like i'm gonna get you out of prison 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:13.520 and get you back on the, force that sort of. 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.120 Thing there's only one man who can stop this, thread 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:17.680 and that's the protagonist of this. 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.640 Film that's. Right SO i don't know how we've avoided 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.400 watching A William forth wife movie up until now because 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.359 his tons of. Credits The american character actor who's made 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.240 a career out of playing mostly heavies and, cops exactly 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.280 like his role in this. Film but he also played 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:36.480 the escape Convict evil in nineteen eighty Seven's Raising. Arizona 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:39.439 you know is that great line he's, Like, hi you're, 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.279 young and you got your. Health what you want with the. 0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.719 Job he has the great scene where he holds up 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:47.279 the general store to steal diapers AND i think he 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.000 steals balloons and he says these blow up into funny 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.600 shapes and the guy, says not unless round is. Funny. 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.680 Yeah so he's great in, that and that role like 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.520 definitely stands apart from most of what he's known. For 0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.640 other films of note include he played the mutant Gangster 0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.600 Flat top in nineteen Nineties Dick tracy And Pops up 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.480 in three different Rob zombie, projects his Two halloween, Movies 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.920 The Devil's, rejects and also the episode OF Csi miami 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:14.680 That Robs zombie. 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.759 Directed it's hard for me to recommend any of Those 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:21.200 Rob zombie. Movies Devil's rejects is a little, rough BUT 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.400 i Remember William forsyth being pretty great in. 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.759 It. Yeah, Yeah like he gets in there and he 0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:30.520 does his, thing very. Dependable, oh we have Another oscar winner. 0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:34.520 Here we Have Louise fletcher playing the Character Elizabeth. Dean 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.000 SHE'S i guess what she's, like A ceo or something 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:38.760 of the company. 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:40.479 That she's the police, commissioner a police. 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.440 Commissioner, okay, YEAH. 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.640 I feel Like Louise fletcher is a great, actress absolutely wasted. 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.200 Here it's like the character has nothing to. Do she 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.360 just stands around being the authority figure in several. Scenes. 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.520 Yep she lived nineteen thirty four through twenty twenty, two 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.680 best known for a role in nineteen seventy Five's One 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.840 Flew over The Cuckoo's, nest for which she won A 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.680 Best Supporting Actress Academy. Award also known for nineteen eighty 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.200 Seven's flowers in The attic and episodes of SUCH tv 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.080 shows AS D space nine And. Shameless All, right we 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:12.600 also Have William fitchner Playing wallace in this born nineteen fifty. 0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.719 Six Another william character. Actor this one best known for 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:19.920 playing kind of a mix authority figures and also slimy suit. 0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:23.720 Types his credits include nineteen ninety Eight's, armageddon two thousand 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:27.600 and Four's, crash and twenty Fourteen's Teenage Mutant Ninja, turtles 0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:29.279 in which he plays a version of The. 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:35.840 Shredder that's weird. Casting, yeah once, again nothing Against William. 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:39.279 Fitchner he's doing what he. Can BUT i don't even 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.160 know why this character. Exists does this character have any 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.840 distinct role to play in the. Story? 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.520 Yeah does this character do anything that could not have 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.080 been combined into another? Character? 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:49.279 YEAH i don't think. 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:53.320 So oh, Man but we also have this, Character Clyde. 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:57.640 Riley you mentioned that the developers of the, technology THE vr, 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:00.279 technology were working out some of the. Kinks this guy 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:04.360 was definitely working out some kinks with the. Technology played 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.600 by the Excellent KEVIN. J O'Connor born nineteen sixty, three 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.240 great creep character actor who of course plays a creep 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:11.480 in this. 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.759 FILM i feel like he was on a role in 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:19.200 the nineties of playing various kinds of, squirming pathetic. 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:24.280 Dweeves, yes frequently cast By Stephen sommers and such films 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.640 as nineteen ninety eight S Deep, rising nineteen ninety Nine's The, 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.680 mummy and then later on two thousand and Four's Van. 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.840 Helsing but he's also worked steadily in a lot of 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:36.280 high quality mainstream, productions like the likes Of Paul Thomas 0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.480 Anderson's There Will Be blood in two thousand and, Seven 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.359 The master in twenty. Twelve you also might recognize him 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.600 from another nineteen ninety five, Film Clive Barker's lord Of, 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.160 illusions in which he plays the Magician Philip. Swan what 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.400 was his role In The. MUMMY i haven't Seen The 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:51.920 mummy in so. 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:54.919 Long, oh He's benny in The. Mummy he's the. Guy 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.200 so this Is The mummy With Brendan fraser And Rachel, 0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:02.680 weiss also the year nineteen ninety. Nine but his thing 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.959 in the movie is that he like he's a. Coward he's, 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.160 like while everybody else is being dashing and rushing into, 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.680 danger he's always running away from danger and trying to 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:16.880 save his. Skin so he is a comic relief coward. 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:20.600 CHARACTER i remember, thinking AFTER i Watched The mummy one 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.960 time we were joking in my. HOUSE i thought a 0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:27.000 good photoshop job would be to do A People Magazine 0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.200 Sexiest Man alive cover from like nineteen ninety, nine two, 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:34.120 thousand the millennial. Style but it's just O'Connor in character 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.759 from The, mummy and it Says. BENNY i mean no 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.200 offense To Kevin connor. Personally it's just like he plays 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:44.240 these pathetic dweeb characters very, well and in The mummy 0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:48.000 his vices cowardice in virtuosity and, jeez it's Lust. 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:53.000 Yep, yeah we'll come back to, him all. Right we 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.480 have this, Character John, donovan who's not in it for very, 0:52:55.520 --> 0:53:01.839 long played By Costas mandelar born nineteen. Six i'm only 0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.799 mentioning him because Apparently mandela would going to play a 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.919 pivotal role in the Later saw. SEQUELS i had asked 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.800 my Friend David streepy about this because he's he's really 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.680 up on The saw, movies the soap, opera noess of, 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.399 them not so much the murder of. Them but he, says, 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.200 quote the back half of the franchise can't happen without 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:20.240 him so fair. 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.360 Enough he's a load bearing element. 0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:28.480 Exactly, oh and then we Have Kaylee quoco playing the 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:32.960 Character Karen, carter a little girl in this born nineteen eighty. 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.440 Five this little girl would go on to Become penny 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:36.160 On The Big Bang. 0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.040 Theory i'm not A Big Bang theory, watcher SO i 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.759 don't know the, character but when she shows up as 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.920 the child in this, movie you just like instantly are, 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:48.200 like oh, no the conversation with this child is going 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:50.719 on too, long and that means definitely the child will 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.080 be in peril in the third. 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.120 Act where you're gonna get into A Gene siskal situation 0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:54.440 with this. 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:58.120 Character Yeahs Russell crowe is going to kidnap her and 0:53:58.160 --> 0:53:59.960 tire to a bomb like we saw on The. Flat 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:01.560 it's very. Predictable. 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.840 Yeah quoco has been in a bunch of interesting projects 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:08.080 Post Big Bang, theory INCLUDING TVs The Flight, attendant WHICH 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.680 i did. WATCH i thought she was very good in. 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:13.040 That she also Voices Harley quinn on the Current Harley 0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:13.800 quinn animated. 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:15.239 Series oh, Cool. 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:18.920 Oh Tracy lords is. Back we talked about her In. 0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:23.400 Blade she's one of the Vampire hinchmen In. Blade here 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.600 she Plays Media zone. Singer SO i think she's sort 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:30.880 of playing herself. Here this is another film where we 0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.759 have some major nineties rave, energy AND i think that's 0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.840 like where she was at this point with Her, like you, 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:40.560 Know reinvention is a musical, act and so she kind 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.600 of plays herself here performing the Track Fallen, angel which 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.440 is also on the. SOUNDTRACK i was. 0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.239 Going to talk about this, later but you kind of 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:52.520 can't have a really, complete Coherent cyberslot movie without a 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.000 techno club. Scene you always have to have. One not 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.799 all the movies have, one but when you don't have, 0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.160 one you feel it's. Apt it's like the movie is, 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:02.120 impure it is. 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:05.360 Incomplete, Yeah like people Watch The matrix and they're, like 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.120 where's the club? Scene and everyone was, like, well we 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:09.319 got to do that in the sequel and they. 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.560 Did, no there is a club scene In The. Matrix, 0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:13.680 well it's only very. Brief it's at the beginning in 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.560 the real, world when they're, like, okay they like some 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.359 friends coming To Keanu reeves's apartment and they take him 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:21.040 out to a club AND i think he Meets trinity. 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:22.719 There it's only. Good it goes by in a few. 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.080 Seconds, okay it's been a while Since I'm i'm the 0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:28.120 cusp of rewatching the, matrix AND i mainly remember there's 0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:32.840 definitely like a real world rave scene in the, sequel 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:35.200 or maybe the third. ONE i can't remember one of 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:38.080 the two sequels where they're, like, hey it's the eve 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:40.200 of The Big, battle let's have a, rager and they. 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:41.440 DO i still haven't seen the. 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:45.400 Sequels oh, WHAT i Guess i'm on the cusp of 0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:47.480 rewatching the sequels as, well So i'll report. 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.719 Back, okay all. 0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:53.080 Right, finally the composer here Is Christopher young born nineteen fifty, 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:58.080 eight and Essentially young built an electronic orchestral score here 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:02.279 around the movie's needle drop score of mostly electronic dance 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.200 music with some rock and even A Peter gabriel track thrown, 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:10.000 in AND i would SAY i Think young does a 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.880 pretty seamless job. Here the soundtrack features music by the 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:18.280 likes Of Live, Black, Grape Juno, Reactor Tricky, William, Orbit London, 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:22.640 Beat lords Of, Acid Tracy, Lords Debbie, Harry The, beg's 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.040 and again That Party man track From Peter gabriel co 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:26.799 written By Tory. 0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:33.600 Amos The Party man track is surprisingly emotionally gripping like you, know, 0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:37.359 oh you really feel the strain in his. Voice it's 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.480 a weird thing to hear right after you just saw 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:44.000 them like DESTROY sid six point seven's personality module by 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.279 having it run over by a track after you, know 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:50.880 they had to like shoot a computer. Programmer Guess i'm 0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:51.920 your party. 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.640 Man, YEAH i. Believe it's a track that The gabriel 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:59.880 And company did for this, production was later collected on 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.040 an album that collected different songs that he did for 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:04.520 different film, productions. 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.640 And has the same title as a song from The 0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:10.800 Prince batman. Soundtrack, yes it seems to refer To Jack Nicholson's, 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:23.000 joker but it's not the same SONG i. Checked all, 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.480 right let's dive into the plot of. Virtuosity so the 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:29.800 opening titles are made of pixels that slither in and 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.800 out of. Form the opening, track by the, way Is 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.360 it's A Big day in The north by The english 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:39.720 Band Black, grape which is a powerfully nostalgic sound ROB 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:41.120 i don't know if you felt the same WAY i, 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:45.080 did but hearing, this it's like a Nineties English you 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.520 might call this jazz pop or maybe pop, funk that 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:52.000 sort of. Sound it's got something in, it like electronic. 0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:56.480 SAXOPHONE i mainly encountered this type of music through movie, 0:57:56.600 --> 0:58:00.840 soundtracks SO i associate it with seeing movies in the 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:04.720 theaters in the. Nineties, yep, Absolutely, sorry we just had 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:06.959 an extended a side Off mike where we're talking about 0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.360 what genre of music this, is and we did not 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:13.040 come to a. Conclusion so maybe we'll revisit that in the, 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:17.200 future maybe for listener. Mail but, Anyway, so what's actually 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.919 happening in the opening Scene when the credits are, Done 0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:23.560 we pop up in a, sleek futuristic train station full 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:28.080 of polished steel and sterile white, lighting and it's filled 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.720 with people dressed almost. Identically everybody. Is it's like men 0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.840 in gray suits with black ties carrying. Briefcases they're walking 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.960 around synchronized in, pairs and the only people who don't 0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:43.360 match are two men in blue full body leather police 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:49.000 uniforms wearing wearing black, caps, boots and. Gloves so we 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:52.640 watched these two policemen step cautiously off of an elevated 0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.760 train onto the. Platform they're looking, around and one of 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.320 the men Is Denzel. Washington this is our, Hero Parker. Barnes, 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:03.680 now while both men look. Vigilant we quickly realize That 0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:06.560 barnes is the more assured of the. Two he's being 0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.600 cautious and, observant and the other guy seems a little more. 0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:13.000 Afraid and the other guy, goes, MAN i can't get 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:16.480 over how different we, look And barnes, says maybe it's the. 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:21.080 Uniforms SO i think this opening is supposed to be 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.080 a bit of a fake, out like you're supposed to 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:26.480 wonder what they're talking about, here why everything looks a little. 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.960 Odd but, THIS i think really does not work because 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.520 it's obvious they're in a virtual reality. World you can 0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.919 guess this if you've seen the. Trailer and it's even 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.720 more obvious because you keep seeing people like glitching and 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:42.600 turning into pixels and. Stuff, yeah so they did not 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:46.760 have me going here. Anyway they start running around looking for, 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:49.640 somebody and eventually they end up in this business district 0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:54.200 plaza where there is a, green floating cgi head made 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.920 out of polygons giving a news report about a bunch 0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.560 of gruesome. Crimes i'm pretty sure it's Actually Russ crows 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.920 doing doing the voice of this, thing but in a 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:07.959 kind of tight Newscaster cadence and he, says the three 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:12.560 adjectives which best describe this killer are, sidistic, intelligent and. 1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.200 Dangerous what does that spell spell? 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:17.200 SID i thought we were going to say, stink, stank, 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.080 stunk but that that would have been great. 1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:26.000 Too this is six point. Seven So denzel eventually traces 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:28.960 their quarry to A japanese. Restaurant he knows to look 1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.920 there because he looks over the restaurant entrance on the 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:37.080 building and sees a an emoticon smiley face like the 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:40.280 colon parentheses smiley face over the. Entrance it's a, joke 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:44.280 And sid six point seven likes. Jokes and when we 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:47.720 first Find, sid he is repeatedly eating a piece of 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.720 sushi that regenerates every time he picks it up off 1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.280 the plate and eats. It SO i think it suggests, 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:55.919 that you, know here in this, world no matter how 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:58.280 how much he, eats he never gets. Full it's like 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:01.720 he's unsatisfied with the tangible pleasures of the fake. 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:05.600 WORLD i like. THIS i also like how the NPCs 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:07.800 are like glitching as they eat their. Sushi they're just 1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:10.400 kind of like sushi floating into their. Mouth so this 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:12.480 is definitely the section of the section of the picture 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:14.440 one of the sections of the picture in the digital 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:19.040 world where the roughness of the digital effects is one 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:22.240 of the charms and absolutely. Works doesn't feel dated at 1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:25.040 all because, like this is exactly the look they were going. 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:28.600 For, Yeah and so this of course turns into a 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:32.280 big gunfight. Scene both the cops AND sid just start 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:36.440 blasting everywhere with machine, guns and the NPCs eating in 1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:39.200 the restaurant mostly appear to not notice this and they 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:42.200 just keep sitting at their. Tables so in this, world 1:01:42.280 --> 1:01:46.680 by nineteen ninety, nine virtual reality has nearly one hundred 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:52.560 percent immersion and totally realistic graphical, fidelity BUT npc behavior 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:55.720 has like not quite reached the level of the Mid 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:58.680 Grand theft auto, games where people at least like scream 1:01:58.680 --> 1:01:59.600 and run away when something. 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:04.320 Explodes but you, know this is how the Mid Grand 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.880 theft auto games. Felt when the Mid Grand theft atto 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.040 games felt out like they felt like this level of, 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:13.040 immersion LIKE i actually live In miami in the nineteen it's, 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:15.200 like you, know, yeah. 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:18.760 Yeah so, anyway this fight goes, On sid and the 1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:21.720 cops keep shooting at each. Other at one point it 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:25.000 is revealed That Russell crowe has like caught and electrocuted 1:02:25.040 --> 1:02:27.040 the other. COP i think you see him on ice 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:31.120 and like a sushi. Tray and at one point they 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.560 borrow a page From, speed And barnes gets the upper 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:38.680 hand by shooting a digital. Hostage he will later. Explain 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.280 they later are, Like, barnes why did you shoot the? 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:43.560 Hostage that doesn't make any, Sense but then he has 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:47.600 a clever. Answer he's, like the hostage wasn't. Real didn't 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:48.040 think of, That. 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:51.720 Sid, Yeah because what we're going to learn shortly is 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:56.120 this is a training simulation for police. Officers BUT i 1:02:56.200 --> 1:02:59.960 really have to, add like clearly for cinematic police, officer 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.520 there's nothing in this training that indicates any kind of 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:08.520 like actual police, training any. Procedure, yeah it's just like 1:03:08.920 --> 1:03:11.400 what if you had a Big hollywood action scene with 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:12.280 a super criminal. 1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:16.080 Exactly. Yeah so at the end of This sid gets 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:18.800 the upper hand in the fight and he starts choking 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:22.760 Out barnes Until barnes like glitches, out which looks super, 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:27.480 funny and then he sort of fades out of existence 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:30.120 like he's being sucked out of THE vr, world and 1:03:30.160 --> 1:03:34.080 we're treated to a shot of A cgi bullet wound 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:38.280 On sid's. Body rapidly healing with classic electrical zap z app. 1:03:38.320 --> 1:03:42.600 Fully but then our human characters come out of THE. 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:45.960 Vr so we zoom out into a room in the 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:49.600 real world in meat, space where we See sid standing 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.760 there in his green suit on a GIANT tv, Screen 1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:55.800 so like in the virtual reality, studio there's a huge, 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:59.160 screen it's like fifteen feet, tall where we see what's 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:02.880 happening in the virtual, world and we immediately hear the 1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:05.560 sounds of like men groaning in, agony and we see 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:09.040 them writhing in THEIR vr, seats and an automated voice 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:13.120 is saying warning subjects exceeding the maximum dose of neural. Information, 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:18.160 now maybe we should briefly hear comment on what it 1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:21.040 looks like when you see the people in the physical 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:24.680 space in THE vr. RIGS i thought this was also 1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:28.440 quite funny because they're like jiggling around and miming the 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:30.600 motions they do in the virtual. World like there's a 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:33.400 part later where we See denzel running in the rig 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:36.040 ye and he's like pumping his arms and legs but 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:38.760 not going, anywhere and it's hilarious. 1:04:38.320 --> 1:04:41.439 That, yeah it really looks hilarious later when they're running yes, 1:04:42.040 --> 1:04:46.200 here you, know they're just squirming in. Pain so, yeah but, 1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:47.560 yeah it looks a bit goofy later. 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:50.960 On, yeah so they're strapped into these dangling like combine 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:56.000 dentist chairs WEARING vr. Advisors they're not going. Anywhere and 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:58.400 then also you see a little computer read out that 1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:01.720 shows a THREE d representation of the player's heads and 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:05.920 there are like these red and yellow explosions inside the. Skulls, 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:09.600 fortunately it Seems denzel gets out just in. Time he's like, 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.360 rattled but he's. Okay but the other, guy, oh the 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:16.240 other guys having violent. Seizures he gets pulled off onto 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:18.680 a hospital gurney and you see them like doing a 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:20.840 defibrillator on, him and you learn he. 1:05:20.920 --> 1:05:24.800 Dies, yeah they try really hard for darn near ten 1:05:24.840 --> 1:05:26.920 seconds to save, him but in la up roll him, 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:27.439 out he's done. 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:31.400 For also in the, scene we meet basically all of 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:34.240 the film's major. CHARACTERS i don't think there's anybody major 1:05:34.280 --> 1:05:36.280 we have to meet. Later we already talked about them. 1:05:36.280 --> 1:05:39.960 Earlier all of the various, functionaries commissioners and company. Guys 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:44.320 i'm not gonna dwell on, them but they're all standing around. 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:46.440 Watching you can kind of group them as like who's 1:05:46.440 --> 1:05:49.280 good and who's bad based on their. Reaction you've got 1:05:49.320 --> 1:05:52.760 the good guys like the police chief And Kelly lynch's, 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:56.800 character Doctor Madison. Carter they're concerned about the test. Subjects they're, like, 1:05:56.840 --> 1:05:58.680 oh get those men out of. There he's going into. 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:02.080 Shock and then we've got the kind of middle to bad, 1:06:02.120 --> 1:06:06.760 guys like the indifferent. Characters That's William fitchner And Louise. 1:06:06.800 --> 1:06:10.880 Fletcher they're just kind of standing there watching. Coldly and 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:14.080 at some, Point dean, said there's like some very klutzy 1:06:14.160 --> 1:06:19.280 exposition dialogue Where Louise fletcher's character says virtual reality was 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:22.040 supposed to be a safe place to train my law enforcement, 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:25.040 officers and one of The williams is, like that's why 1:06:25.080 --> 1:06:27.800 we were using convicts to ferret out any glitches in the. 1:06:27.840 --> 1:06:31.040 System and they have this exchange as they're driving away 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:34.240 in a golf cart by the, way and then finally 1:06:34.280 --> 1:06:37.840 we meet this the obvious bad, Guy Darryl lindenmeyer that 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:41.320 again is played By Steven, spinella who looks confusingly similar 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:44.400 To William, fitchener like they look alike and dress the. 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:48.840 Same it's almost like they accidentally cast both actors as 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:50.880 the same, character and they're, like, well, crap we've got 1:06:50.880 --> 1:06:52.720 to pick one and just make a role for the other. 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:56.320 Guy yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah William fitchener also could have 1:06:56.360 --> 1:06:59.240 played this other. Guy yeah. Yeah but he's like the 1:06:59.320 --> 1:07:02.400 creator of THE vr system and they're sort of grilling 1:07:02.480 --> 1:07:05.880 him about the fail. Safes he seems squirrely and. Untrustworthy 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:09.400 but we get some backstory in the scene as. Well 1:07:09.920 --> 1:07:13.440 The chief Tells Parker, barnes you, know he acknowledges that 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:15.440 they're old, friends and he, says it was good to 1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:19.360 see you in uniform, again even if it was only virtual. Reality, 1:07:21.360 --> 1:07:25.680 Meanwhile barnes is he's got. Insights he's LIKE sid six point. 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:28.520 Seven he's. Cheating AND i know he's cheating BECAUSE i 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:31.680 hacked the main frame before we went, in and he's 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:34.360 not allowed to use electricity as a, weapon but he did, 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:37.560 anyway and he goes and he like tries to show the, 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:41.160 chief But, lindenmeyer whose first name Is darryl by the, 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:44.480 Way Darryl, Lindenmeyer he's, like, no get away from, there 1:07:44.640 --> 1:07:47.280 and so obviously that's setting up a. 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:51.320 CONFLICT i want to mention that at this point in 1:07:51.360 --> 1:07:55.480 the real, World Denzel washington's, Character Parker, barnes has great. 1:07:55.480 --> 1:07:58.440 Hair he has like really, cool like futuristic feeling. Hair 1:07:59.200 --> 1:08:00.960 he's not going to get to keep his hair for 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:02.720 the rest of the, picture AND i was a little 1:08:02.720 --> 1:08:03.440 disappointed by. 1:08:03.440 --> 1:08:05.320 That, yeah they give him a haircut before they send 1:08:05.360 --> 1:08:06.160 him out on a mission. 1:08:06.240 --> 1:08:09.640 Later why is his hair super cool and cultivated in? 1:08:09.720 --> 1:08:12.439 Prison but then once he's, free it's. CUT i don't, 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:14.240 KNOW i don't, KNOW i don't. 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:17.160 Know but, Anyway, okay so they send him back to. 1:08:17.200 --> 1:08:20.080 Prison there's one brief thing here where they, show, oh 1:08:20.080 --> 1:08:22.200 he's got a metallic. Limb he like goes through a 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:26.880 scanner and it's, like remember, that. Folks it doesn't look it 1:08:26.960 --> 1:08:28.920 just looks like a normal arm from the, outside but 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:31.599 they show you'll scan as he's going through and it's 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:35.120 apparently a metal. Arm When barnes is sent back to, 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:38.400 prison he randomly has to fight a Neo. NAZI i 1:08:38.479 --> 1:08:41.840 did not understand why this occurred WHEN i first watched. 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:45.840 It it was almost like suggesting this fight was arranged 1:08:45.960 --> 1:08:48.720 by the powers that, be like they were trying to 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:51.640 silence him about THE vr program or. Something BUT i 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:54.400 don't think there's any follow through to confirm, That SO 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:55.280 i don't know why this. 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:59.400 Happened it's also very, stylistic so you could almost think 1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:02.519 we're back, simulation just because it does not look like 1:09:03.120 --> 1:09:05.720 you're it's a future, PRISON i, guess. Yeah and you 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:08.679 don't see any of the inmates. Directly they're all behind 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:11.640 like some sort of a like a some sort of 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:13.680 a glass or a, screen so you just see their. 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:18.080 Silhouettes, yes, Yes So denzel goes into this big. Hall 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:21.600 there's nobody else in. It all these silhouettes of prisoners 1:09:21.760 --> 1:09:25.000 lined up like an audience mocking and jeering at. Him 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:28.800 you only see them behind these silk. Screens and then 1:09:28.800 --> 1:09:31.200 from the opposite end of the, hall this gross guy 1:09:31.240 --> 1:09:35.160 with a white power tattoo and an improvised stabbing weapon comes, 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:38.120 out and then they, fight and Then barnes defeats him 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:41.599 with superior training and, tactics as well as at least 1:09:41.640 --> 1:09:44.360 one brutal uppercut to the, groin and then a bunch 1:09:44.360 --> 1:09:47.760 of guards rush in and beat Up, Barns AND i 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:48.880 don't understand why this. 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:52.760 Happened, yeah it's so stylistic THAT i was expecting him 1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:56.600 to beat The nazi to death with an Apple, macintosh 1:09:56.640 --> 1:09:57.840 but it is HOW i went. Down. 1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:01.840 Okay then we go on to another scene with our bad. 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:04.240 Guys this is the let me tell you a secret, 1:10:04.280 --> 1:10:09.000 scene which is pretty pretty. Solid so Remember Daryl lindenmeyer 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:12.200 the computer Company. Creep he's in THE vr space and 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:14.679 he walks up to THE sid screen where the screen 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:16.839 is on And sid is in there playing a piano 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:20.920 in a green satin suit in a beyond The MIND'S 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:25.240 I done sea, landscape And darryl tells, him you know, What, Sorry, 1:10:25.280 --> 1:10:28.120 Sid i'm gonna have to deactivate. You he, SAYS i 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:31.840 know it was you who increased the neural sensitivity. Calibrations 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:36.120 you murdered that. Prisoner and Then sid, SAYS i can't 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:39.320 change WHAT i, Am. Darryl i'm a fifty terabyte self 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:43.599 evolving neural network double backflip off the high. Platform i'm 1:10:43.640 --> 1:10:45.840 not a swan. Dive AND i have to tell you 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:52.040 killing for. Real it was a real. RUSH i always love. 1:10:52.120 --> 1:10:55.600 These see a lot Of cyberslot movies have a monologue like, 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:58.559 this LIKE i am a masterpiece of. Evil. Evil i'm 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.000 pretty Sure job and Lawnmower man has a speech a 1:11:01.000 --> 1:11:05.800 lot like. This this one is relatively. Short, also when 1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:09.040 he lands after doing his, backflips he explodes into a 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:11.880 bunch of, bats and you know, what beyond the, MINDS 1:11:11.880 --> 1:11:13.920 i had a bat. SWARM i think that must have 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:16.680 been part of a STANDARD cg package in the, nineties 1:11:17.479 --> 1:11:20.200 Because sid is not really associated with. Bats it's not, 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.720 like you, know what else does he have to do with? 1:11:22.760 --> 1:11:26.200 Bats it seems out of. Nowhere but, anyway after he, 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:28.599 says you, KNOW i love killing for, real it was really. 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:32.440 Good Lynden meyer, goes oh My, god and then the monologue. 1:11:32.439 --> 1:11:35.720 Continues it's quite. Good sid, says What god would that? 1:11:35.760 --> 1:11:38.439 Be the one who created you or the one who created. 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:41.000 Me you, see in your, world The lord giveth and 1:11:41.040 --> 1:11:43.599 The lord taketh, Away but in my, world the one 1:11:43.600 --> 1:11:46.680 who gave me life doesn't have any. Balls you are 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.559 frightfully inadequate for a, Deity darryl AND i will not 1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:54.240 be shut. Down, okay so that's, corny but for what 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:55.680 it is that slaps. 1:11:55.520 --> 1:11:59.080 Yeah, Yeah AND i should add this whole sequence is 1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:02.720 just very well. Shot it's the great integration between the 1:12:02.800 --> 1:12:05.880 live action performance and the use of the, screens which 1:12:05.920 --> 1:12:07.880 Was i'm to understand all the screens in the film 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:12.519 were in. Camera i'm assuming at least some of it 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:15.160 was not live to. Screen leonard points out that a 1:12:15.160 --> 1:12:17.200 lot of skill went into making sure all these screens 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:19.799 were set upright and you could be seen on camera 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:21.000 in the optimal. Way. 1:12:21.240 --> 1:12:24.439 Yeah i'm impressedly achieved. That but, anyway so in the, 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:27.639 Scene darryl, says you, Know, sid you cannot exist without 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:30.280 the approval of the. Authorities you are software and you 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:33.880 need hardware to run. On So sid comes up with a. 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:38.040 Plan what is that? Plan he, says sacrifice your. Queen, 1:12:38.680 --> 1:12:41.559 ooh cryptic, meaning and then the camera kind of creeps. 1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:43.720 IN i like, this there's this slow creep in and he, 1:12:43.760 --> 1:12:44.840 says let me tell you a. 1:12:44.920 --> 1:12:50.400 Secret. Yeah. Yeah the scene lands in an excellent place. 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:54.160 Here at that being, Said i'm not exactly sure where 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:56.200 the secret. WAS i, MEAN i don't need to, know 1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:59.680 because the scene still connected on an emotional level and 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:04.240 certainly established our villain and some semblance of his plot 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:10.719 with his creator turned. Worshiper BUT i have some guesses 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:13.160 what the secret might, be but it's not really. 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:15.840 Clear maybe we can come back to, that all, Right 1:13:15.880 --> 1:13:19.000 so we also get the scene Where barnes meets with 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:22.560 Doctor Madison Carter Kelly. Lynch she comes. In they have 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:24.960 an interview in the. Prison she introduces. Herself she's a 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:28.280 criminal psychologist And William forsyth asked her to do a 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:31.479 profile On barnes that may be useful in reducing his. 1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:35.040 Sentence so they. Talk she asks him about the. Fight 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.080 he says he was defending. Himself she asks him about 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:41.000 whether he was attracted to violence as a. Child he's, like, 1:13:41.120 --> 1:13:45.680 yeah three, Stooges Wiley coyote was. Great nice. Answer and 1:13:45.760 --> 1:13:47.800 as they keep, talking it starts to seem like what 1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:51.040 she's really interested in Is Russell. CROWE i, mean what's 1:13:51.040 --> 1:13:53.720 everybody interested? IN i think she wants to write a 1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:56.599 book on the criminal genius Of sid six point. Seven 1:13:57.200 --> 1:13:59.799 so she starts kind of Quizzing denzel about his virtual. 1:14:00.200 --> 1:14:01.800 Me he's, like how did you know he'd be in 1:14:01.840 --> 1:14:04.800 The japanese? Restaurant And barnes explains what an emoticon. 1:14:04.960 --> 1:14:05.040 Is. 1:14:05.680 --> 1:14:10.599 Yeah we also here get the first hints Of barnes's tragic, 1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:13.839 backstory which gets revealed in a trickle throughout the. MOVIE 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:15.760 i Think i'm gonna cut to the chase and just 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:18.320 summarize the whole thing, here so we don't trickle it. 1:14:18.360 --> 1:14:21.479 In so the deal Is barnes was some kind of 1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:26.400 elite detective on the case of a man Named Matthew, 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:30.240 grimes which they Call they say he was a quote political, 1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:34.519 terrorist AND i like how they specify a political terrorist 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:37.000 to make it clear he's not like a culinary. Terrorist 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:41.280 but if he's a political, terrorist what were his? Politics 1:14:41.320 --> 1:14:44.280 that is not really. Clear at one point we see 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:47.200 him speaking to the media about the haves and have, 1:14:47.360 --> 1:14:51.519 nots but mostly THAT i don't. Know that's back to 1:14:51.560 --> 1:14:54.400 the THING i said at the beginning about like cultural 1:14:54.479 --> 1:14:58.680 objects just feeling like they're meaningless in, Themselves like he 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:01.240 could have inserted any kind of of political rhetoric there 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:02.120 and it would be the same. 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:06.960 Thing, yeah this this particular detail of his, backstory like 1:15:07.000 --> 1:15:09.679 the basic shape of. It, okay some some sort of 1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:13.080 a killer took out his. Family, yeah you, know obviously 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:16.120 that's a necessary part of what they're building. Here but 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:19.240 all the details about this guy, JUST i don't, know 1:15:19.280 --> 1:15:21.640 they're not very. Convincing, like, yeah like we could have 1:15:21.840 --> 1:15:23.920 we should have known less about, it because what we 1:15:23.960 --> 1:15:27.160 do learn is not convincing or certainly doesn't have as 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:27.960 much of an emotional. 1:15:28.000 --> 1:15:32.320 Impact it has a real anti verisimilitude about his political. 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:36.920 Terroristiness it suggests more that he just like simply loved 1:15:37.000 --> 1:15:41.000 crime and. Murder, yeah and so, anyway but they tell 1:15:41.040 --> 1:15:43.439 the story of how this guy Kidnapped barnes's wife and. 1:15:43.520 --> 1:15:46.160 Child he put them in a booby trapped room so 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:48.479 that When barnes came to rescue, them it would trigger a, 1:15:48.520 --> 1:15:51.200 bomb and the bomb killed his. Family and it's also 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:54.439 the Reason barnes now has the bionic. Arm. Uh and 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:58.120 So carter is like asking him questions about like his 1:15:58.200 --> 1:16:00.719 backstory in the, scene and we we get to learn 1:16:00.760 --> 1:16:02.599 that we see that he is a, haunted broken. 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:03.240 Man all. 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:05.240 Right, now from here we move on to The sheila. 1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:08.479 Scene so we're back in THE cid, warehouse you, know 1:16:08.479 --> 1:16:10.880 where THE vr world is projected on the big. Screen 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:15.559 and currently the person in here is a geeky roboticist Named. 1:16:15.600 --> 1:16:19.320 Clyde Here's KEVIN. J, O'Connor and he's playing would you 1:16:19.360 --> 1:16:23.759 call this sexy? Chess, Yes like like they're playing a chess, 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:26.479 game moving around these GIANT cgi pieces on a. Board 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:32.120 but he's playing against this blonde seductress character Named. Sheila 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:35.040 three point two and she's like stretching out on the 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:37.840 chase long in her silk. Pajamas so while like the 1:16:37.840 --> 1:16:41.479 big chess pieces zoom around and she's, Like, Oh, clyde you, 1:16:41.520 --> 1:16:43.320 KNOW i really would like you to come visit me 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:45.639 in THE vr. World there are so many games we could. 1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:50.799 Play And clyde is basically drooling at the. Screen, meanwhile 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:54.360 the creepy computer Guy daryl comes up behind him and he's, 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:58.760 like you, Know, clyde she's very interactive. Here they sort 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:02.200 of imply that THE vr chairs that are being used 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:05.840 in the police training simulator earlier that day have some 1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:10.599 kind of sexual. Interface we never see specifics on what 1:17:10.680 --> 1:17:14.080 these peripherals would look. Like i'm really curious how this 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:18.240 was going to be used for training. Purposes and by the, 1:17:18.280 --> 1:17:20.640 way once, again no offense To kevin j, O'Connor BUT 1:17:20.680 --> 1:17:22.519 i feel like they really go out of their way 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:26.240 to make him, gross like come off as. Gross he's 1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:29.719 filmed slightly from below while he's leering at the, screen 1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:32.680 so we're like looking a bit up his nose and 1:17:32.760 --> 1:17:35.960 seeing his wet front. Teeth they're like wet with spit 1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:38.800 and shining in the light and he's just gazing like 1:17:38.840 --> 1:17:43.080 he's in a trance at the. Screen and Then clyde is, like, oh, Yeah, 1:17:43.200 --> 1:17:46.680 DARRYL i need to use your, gear But darryl tells, him, no, no, 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:49.840 No i've got a better. Idea you are a nano, 1:17:50.000 --> 1:17:54.440 roboticist AND i know that you have created the technology 1:17:54.479 --> 1:17:58.960 to THREE d print a nanotech android out of blue. 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:03.160 Goop why don't you use your Blue goop machine to 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:06.800 Make sheila three point two THE vr model into a 1:18:06.840 --> 1:18:10.200 full THREE d robot in the real, World and THEN 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:12.479 i guess y'all can get. MARRIED i don't. 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:15.920 Know so this is so. Ridiculous, obviously it's like you're 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:23.679 storing the technology to print bodies for digital beings right 1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:28.000 next to the place where you store your digital mass murderer. Beings, 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:31.799 Yes but then also it's like he's putting, This darrel's 1:18:31.800 --> 1:18:34.200 putting this together For. Clyde Like clyde was, like you, 1:18:34.280 --> 1:18:38.240 KNOW i could bend out a woman for all of 1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:42.120 my creepy. Lusts i'd never thought about that. Before this 1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:44.120 is my life's, work BUT i never put this. 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:47.360 Together you're exactly, RIGHT i mean once like and also 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:51.600 this character is depicted as he has no attributes other 1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:58.519 than dozen nanotechnology robots and experiences. Lust, yeah so you 1:18:58.600 --> 1:19:01.200 might think those would connect his, mind because that is 1:19:01.240 --> 1:19:04.960 all his mind is as a. Character but, yeah, Anyway 1:19:05.000 --> 1:19:08.439 clyde agrees and then walks off looking a kind of 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:12.360 grimly determined in a very funny. Way and So daryl 1:19:12.439 --> 1:19:16.280 hangs back to Grab sheila's quote module from the computer. 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:18.679 Bank this is an important mcguffin in the. Movie EVERY 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:22.080 vr character has a little like plastic polyhedron that's got 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:25.240 their brain inside. It but uh, Oh darryl pulls a 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:29.479 switcheroo and instead of Taking sheila's, module he TAKES sid 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:30.560 six point, seven. 1:19:31.560 --> 1:19:34.680 And then he just Kicked sheila underneath the you, know some, 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:38.400 furniture which, YEAH i thought was very disappointing because first of, 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:41.599 ALL i kind of Wanted sheila to have a chance 1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:45.400 to be born to the real. World, yeah but also, 1:19:45.760 --> 1:19:49.679 imagine like the The cringey comedy that could have resulted 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:51.960 if we have like a stinger at the end where 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.880 police are going into train and they're going up Against 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:56.519 sheila instead of a super. 1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:58.639 Criminal, oh that would be funny. TOO i thought maybe 1:19:58.640 --> 1:20:01.000 you were gonna, say like what If sheila was, created 1:20:01.000 --> 1:20:03.439 but instead of just becoming a sex, robot she's the 1:20:03.439 --> 1:20:06.320 one who has to hunt Down sid six point. Seven, yeah, 1:20:06.439 --> 1:20:17.160 yeah all. Right, anyway we move on to the nano robotics. 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:20.760 Lab clyde shows off a robot, snake which you think 1:20:20.840 --> 1:20:22.760 is a real snake at, first like he shoves it 1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.720 in Linden meyer's, face but then he cuts it in 1:20:25.760 --> 1:20:28.000 half with some shears and reveals it is made of 1:20:28.000 --> 1:20:31.439 blue Goop and, then critically for the, plot we learn 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:33.960 that if you cut part of it, off since it's 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:38.040 made out of, silicon it can regenerate itself by absorbing 1:20:38.200 --> 1:20:41.360 glass it finds in the. Environment so the snake like 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:45.080 rebuilds its severed tail by reaching out these blue tendrils 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:49.080 that suck up glass from a. Beaker and, honestly this 1:20:49.160 --> 1:20:52.200 premise sets up several of the best moments in the 1:20:52.240 --> 1:20:55.280 movie Where sid will get injured and then later he'll 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:58.639 start like sucking glass out of windows while he's got 1:20:58.640 --> 1:21:00.679 like the goop arm and the window and he's making 1:21:00.720 --> 1:21:05.240 this rage, face or at one point he's literally like 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:08.559 eating fistfuls of glass in the middle of a car. 1:21:08.640 --> 1:21:13.160 Chase in the, Scene clyde also explains. Quote if you 1:21:13.240 --> 1:21:17.479 separate the character module from the polymer, matrix you get nano. 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:17.960 Death. 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:22.000 Yeah so, anyway they start growing the robot inside of a, 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:23.920 pod which is a good set. 1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:27.519 Piece oh, YES i love all this stuff because then practical. 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:33.800 Effects it's this blue like it it's, inorganic but it 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:36.439 has this kind of organic nature to. It it's like 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:41.280 this like weird blue alien egg that this being is growing. 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:45.160 Inside and then when it finally opens and there's like blue. 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:49.160 Goo of, course what rises up initially is just this 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:52.360 kind of like neutral blue. Humanoid, oh has kind of 1:21:52.400 --> 1:21:54.559 like a, OH i don't, know almost like a crash 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:57.040 test dummy kind of vibe to, it like it's not 1:21:57.080 --> 1:22:01.479 completely finished, yet to the point that our creep researcher 1:22:01.520 --> 1:22:04.400 here is like, like, oh it's. You i'm ready to. 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:09.799 Party but then it finishes its. Form it like everything 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:14.240 smooths out digitally and it becomes Not sheila But sid 1:22:14.320 --> 1:22:17.840 six point seven naked terminator style. 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:20.559 Who immediately Kills clyde like it like chokes. 1:22:20.640 --> 1:22:20.800 Him. 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:23.280 Yeah the, pod by the, way it looks like a 1:22:23.320 --> 1:22:27.479 cross between a venus fly trap and a pool. Float and, 1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:30.479 yeah the being is the freakiest looking thing in the 1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:33.800 movie is when sid comes out not fully. Finished, yeah but. 1:22:33.720 --> 1:22:36.160 That's why if you look through the credits for this, 1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:38.919 film you'll see somebody like credit with like creature effects 1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:42.439 because it is essentially like it's somewhere blurring the line 1:22:42.479 --> 1:22:43.360 between creature and. 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:46.880 Technology, yeah and by the, way and the Scene Russell 1:22:46.920 --> 1:22:50.120 crowe is really stretching his ham, legs just goofing it up, 1:22:50.160 --> 1:22:55.920 stupendously you. Know clyde says he's Like, sheila but it's 1:22:55.920 --> 1:22:59.880 Obviously Russell, crowe and he Instead russell crow says, No 1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:04.200 I'm oedipus and then chokes. Him and then meanwhile the 1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:07.880 Daar old character is watching seemingly in horror and then 1:23:08.000 --> 1:23:10.559 runs away and. Hides but why is he? Horrified didn't 1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:11.080 he do this on? 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:13.840 Purpose, yeah this is exactly what you wanted to. Do 1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:15.719 what did you think was gonna happen? 1:23:15.760 --> 1:23:18.719 Here so we get to see Naked Russell crowe having 1:23:18.760 --> 1:23:21.559 fun feeling gravity for the first. Time he like kind 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:25.320 of shifts, Around he's, like ooh. Gravity he also picks 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:28.400 up a random knife and starts doing naked tai chi 1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:31.920 with a knife in his. Hand then he recreationally cuts 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:34.960 off his own finger and then licks the blue goop and, says, 1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:37.519 huh that was a good. Year like it's like it's a. 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:40.719 Wine that's the, joke but you know, what It's Russell 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:43.040 crowe kind of sells. It even the bad jokes sort of. 1:23:43.120 --> 1:23:45.480 Land. Yeah. 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:47.280 Oh and then also in the scene we get a 1:23:47.280 --> 1:23:49.960 LINE i think it was obviously meant for the. Trailer 1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:52.160 it's sort of AN i got to get me one 1:23:52.200 --> 1:23:55.519 of those moments Where sid looks directly into the camera and, 1:23:55.560 --> 1:23:57.839 SAYS i Think i'm gonna like it, here. 1:23:58.439 --> 1:24:00.599 And he does like it. Here that's that's pretty much 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:03.880 what happens for the next like forty minutes or. 1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.280 So SO i have a question about the. Plot maybe 1:24:06.320 --> 1:24:09.320 you knew something about this Rob is there? Something it 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:12.439 felt like something was missing in the subplot of the. 1:24:12.800 --> 1:24:16.400 Villains here they would explain why the computer company guy 1:24:17.080 --> 1:24:21.599 Wanted sid six point seven unleashed into the. World there 1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:24.840 are some scenes that kind of imply a, conspiracy like 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:28.800 motivated by. Business there are OTHER i, mean but only very. 1:24:28.880 --> 1:24:31.559 Vaguely there are other scenes that to me implied the 1:24:31.560 --> 1:24:35.480 computer guy is like a psychotic acolyte of the religion 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:38.639 Of sid six point, Seven like AM i remembering right 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:41.200 that one time later he's shown in a motel room 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:46.240 decorated like A Charles manson murder. Scene yeah, Yeah and 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:48.839 it's not like a crime, scene it's like his own motel. 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:52.160 Room and it implied just he just decorated it that 1:24:52.200 --> 1:24:55.720 way because he likes. It like just major confusion on 1:24:55.840 --> 1:24:59.479 what is the motivation of the non virtual meat human, 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:01.920 villain what was their, goal and who's in on. 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:05.280 IT i, mean it seems like his direct creator here 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:10.360 just comes to worship his, creation but we don't really 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:13.080 get enough details on how this comes to, pass you, 1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:16.400 know we're just sort of left to assume that's the. 1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:19.280 Case this is an example WHERE i probably need WELL 1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:21.719 i don't need. TO i would probably get some answers 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:24.840 IF i read the novelization for the, movie which was 1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:29.479 By Terry, bisson who has come up on the show 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:32.680 before because we've had a couple of people right in 1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:37.280 about his. Work he won A Hugo award and A 1:25:37.280 --> 1:25:39.479 Nebula award for the short Story They're made out Of. 1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:44.400 Meat i'm, assuming as is typical with, novelizations he probably 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:46.519 had to fill in the gaps here and create some 1:25:46.560 --> 1:25:49.880 connective tissue for these. Characters but, yeah back to your, 1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:52.639 point why is any of this? Happening, yeah, like why 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:57.240 really did you orchestrate the escape of this? Being why 1:25:57.280 --> 1:26:01.479 did you help it print itself in in physical form 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:04.680 so it can run on Rampage like you, clean you 1:26:04.720 --> 1:26:07.479 seem to like him and you're into what he's doing 1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:10.840 but also scared by, him but also scared by. Him, 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:15.439 yeah it's like it seems like we needed him to 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:17.200 be killed by the creator here as, well if he 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:20.280 because it's not like he's he's sort Of frankenstein's here 1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:22.760 where he's, like, Ah i've gone too far and runs, 1:26:22.800 --> 1:26:25.080 away but then he continues to worship his. Creation so either. 1:26:25.200 --> 1:26:28.160 Yeah, Anyway so at this point in the, movie the 1:26:28.200 --> 1:26:30.800 premise has been. Delivered you, KNOW sid six point seven 1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:33.559 is unleashed in physical form upon our, world the world 1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:37.240 of nineteen ninety. Nine in the words Of William forsyth, 1:26:37.439 --> 1:26:41.200 quote SOMEHOW sid six point seven got himself out of 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:45.639 the computer and at this point only one man can stop, 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:49.200 him because Again barnes is the only prisoner who ever 1:26:49.240 --> 1:26:52.360 BEATS sid in THE vr. Training So barnes has granted 1:26:52.400 --> 1:26:56.000 conditional early release from prison so he can find and STOP. 1:26:56.080 --> 1:26:59.080 Sid now at this, point what is a renegade cop 1:26:59.160 --> 1:27:01.840 who gets results always need a new, Partner so he's 1:27:01.840 --> 1:27:05.720 getting paired up With Madison, carter the criminal. Psychologist so 1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:08.000 a few scenes to talk about from the middle portion 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:10.640 of the, movie a lot of chasing around an investigation 1:27:10.760 --> 1:27:14.880 in that there's sort of a detective portion Where barnes 1:27:14.920 --> 1:27:17.760 And carter investigates some crime scenes where LIKE sid has 1:27:17.800 --> 1:27:20.519 done random murders and one of them is staged as 1:27:20.560 --> 1:27:24.479 a copycat of The Tate lobbianca. Murders but they end 1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:27.880 up At Darryl lindenmeyer's, house the guy who PROGRAMMED, sid 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:31.320 in a scene THAT i found extremely funny because so 1:27:31.479 --> 1:27:34.880 they learn HOW sid six point seven was. Created they 1:27:34.920 --> 1:27:37.720 go Into lindenmeyer's computer and they're like looking at the 1:27:37.720 --> 1:27:41.360 PREVIOUS sid, models and these heads just start popping up 1:27:41.400 --> 1:27:43.559 on the computer. Screen and the first one we see 1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:47.080 is A hitler head that's like a THREE d sort 1:27:47.080 --> 1:27:49.519 of polygon model of, it so it's got like a 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:52.559 little like, mustache but it's a little. Polygon and then 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:56.439 they're showing serial killers and, stuff And carter, says, quote 1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:59.880 this is using some kind of genetic Algorithms sid's too 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:03.840 complex to. Design lindenmeyer had to grow him up psychologically 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:07.519 like a real person with multiple personality. Disorder the program 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:10.439 learns like a, child but much. Faster it's like he 1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:13.000 put all these killers In sid's nursery and let him 1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:16.439 watch them cannibalize each. Other and Then barnes, says and 1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:19.519 only the strong ones. Survive but what does that mean 1:28:19.560 --> 1:28:22.320 in this context the strongest serial killers or? 1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:26.519 Hitlers so on one, level absolutely this is technobabble that 1:28:26.920 --> 1:28:29.679 doesn't literally stand up to close, scrutiny but it also 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:34.360 does kind of neatly forecast of some of the topics 1:28:34.400 --> 1:28:37.679 we've been discussing in the past several years ABOUT ai 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:42.800 and about about training on content and how sometimes the 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:47.000 content that these models train on are not the best 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:51.240 models of human behavior or human. Expression and so, it's you, 1:28:51.280 --> 1:28:54.120 know it's, silly but it also rings a little bit 1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:55.040 true in some. 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:57.439 Ways, yeah but this is more, like what if you 1:28:57.800 --> 1:29:02.400 limited the reinforcement training, exclusively the training data is only 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:05.920 a pyramid of two HUNDRED cgi serial killer heads and 1:29:06.000 --> 1:29:06.840 With hitler in there. 1:29:06.880 --> 1:29:09.479 Too, Yeah, WELL i, mean in, retrospect why would we do? 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:11.040 This but now we're kind of, like well that GU 1:29:11.040 --> 1:29:12.080 i guess that could, happen you. 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:12.200 Know. 1:29:13.320 --> 1:29:17.200 Yeah so also in the, Scene barnes figures out that 1:29:17.360 --> 1:29:20.720 one of the heads in there Inside sid belonged to 1:29:20.760 --> 1:29:23.320 the guy who murdered his. Family there was a lot 1:29:23.439 --> 1:29:26.200 made of, this, like, oh that would be extra, bad you, 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:30.200 know much scarier Than Ted bundy And. Hitler but much 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:33.839 is also discussed, about like whether this personality is dominant 1:29:33.920 --> 1:29:38.320 Within sid or. NOT i found that a not very fruitful. Subplot. 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:38.720 Yeah. 1:29:38.840 --> 1:29:43.439 Same the decor of Lynden meyer's APARTMENT i thought was really. 1:29:43.479 --> 1:29:46.880 Funny it's like a cross Between Patrick bateman's apartment and 1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:49.280 the house In The. Hunger so there's a lot of 1:29:49.360 --> 1:29:52.880 Soulless Wall street furniture and computers and, stuff but also 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:57.439 a single purple rose in a glass bell. Jar now after, 1:29:57.479 --> 1:29:59.680 you let's talk about the club, scene, because as we, 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:01.479 said every one of these movies has to have a 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:05.800 techno dance club. Scene what would you, so, Like sid 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:08.920 six point seven goes to a, club he fights his way. 1:30:08.960 --> 1:30:11.639 In how would you describe this this club? 1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:16.759 Rob? Oh, WELL i mean it's just absolute cinematic portrayal 1:30:16.800 --> 1:30:21.840 of the nineties rave, situation you, know the, lights the, 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:27.120 outfits the presence Of Tracy. Lord everything is in place 1:30:27.200 --> 1:30:30.680 here and we get that great scene where he's like 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:33.240 strong arming his way to the front of the line 1:30:33.280 --> 1:30:37.960 to get. In it's it's very like futuristic and. Hip 1:30:39.320 --> 1:30:41.840 BUT i do generally like the music. Here good. 1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:44.240 Track there's live music and they've got like a Star 1:30:44.360 --> 1:30:48.000 TREK dj station with these milky white orbs instead of, 1:30:48.040 --> 1:30:51.040 turntables so you can see them like doing record scratches 1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:51.360 with the. 1:30:51.520 --> 1:30:56.240 Orbs, yeah infrared footage of everything's gone to so many, screens. 1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:59.320 Yes screens. Everywhere there are people walking around with video 1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:02.840 cameras that are projecting a live feed with crazy color 1:31:02.880 --> 1:31:07.200 effects onto the huge screens on the. Walls just cables 1:31:07.280 --> 1:31:10.479 dangling everywhere and like running to the helmets that are 1:31:10.479 --> 1:31:13.439 being warned by the. DJs, also you access this club 1:31:13.479 --> 1:31:15.759 through a freight, elevator so it's like a basement club 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:19.840 you have to go down to through the. Elevator one 1:31:19.880 --> 1:31:22.519 THING i thought is, that, oh you, KNOW i went 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:24.720 to a concert earlier this, week and it's like this 1:31:24.760 --> 1:31:26.599 is kind of like going to a concert today because 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:30.000 you see people holding up their devices recording the performers 1:31:30.040 --> 1:31:30.920 standing right in front of. 1:31:30.920 --> 1:31:32.920 Them, yeah that's a good. Point that's a good. Point 1:31:33.280 --> 1:31:38.360 but yeaople do. THAT i mean it only the world 1:31:38.400 --> 1:31:40.880 only makes sense if you're viewing, it experiencing it through 1:31:41.040 --> 1:31:45.080 the digital through the, technology you. Know but in this, case, 1:31:45.120 --> 1:31:48.639 yeah the performer Is Tracy lord's up there with what 1:31:48.720 --> 1:31:52.000 one or two DJs on. Hand she's kind of, singing 1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:58.480 kind of dancing around wearing this kind of like matrixy latex, 1:31:58.600 --> 1:32:02.439 attire and then Income sid and we get this one 1:32:02.479 --> 1:32:06.240 moment cinematography at its. FINEST i guess they're, like what 1:32:06.360 --> 1:32:11.559 if we Shot sid Through Tracy lord's legs from, behind 1:32:11.640 --> 1:32:14.240 like through her thighs from, behind and that's the. Shot, 1:32:14.600 --> 1:32:17.200 Yeah SO i giggled at. THAT i was, like, okay, 1:32:17.479 --> 1:32:18.679 yeah a little over the. Top. 1:32:19.200 --> 1:32:22.800 Yeah, also the fashion in the scene is, chaotic we, 1:32:22.840 --> 1:32:25.000 get but we do get an early glimpse of a 1:32:25.040 --> 1:32:27.519 guy in a purple double breasted suit That sid is 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:30.720 going to steal and wear for much of the. Film but, 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:33.240 again coming back to the kind of themes we talked about, 1:32:33.240 --> 1:32:36.000 earlier there's something kind of interesting here where in this 1:32:36.040 --> 1:32:39.519 scene it becomes apparent That sid loves that people are 1:32:39.560 --> 1:32:42.720 aiming cameras at him in the club and projecting him 1:32:42.760 --> 1:32:45.960 onto the big, screen and he. Smiles he's like overwhelmed with. 1:32:46.120 --> 1:32:49.120 JOY i think sincere, Joy like he's not making a, 1:32:49.200 --> 1:32:52.400 joke and he, SAYS i am. Beautiful and this is 1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:54.519 one of the themes of the movie THAT i thought 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:58.760 was actually kind of accidentally. Interesting there's something about the 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:04.280 information environ in the setting that says there's a. Desire 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:07.880 there's like a link between the desire to be famous 1:33:08.280 --> 1:33:12.960 and the center of everybody's attention and sadism or. Psychopathy 1:33:13.240 --> 1:33:15.840 LIKE i haven't fully fleshed out exactly what this, means 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:18.800 but it's like a latent assumption of the film that 1:33:19.120 --> 1:33:21.559 is not just the common assumption that there's something kind 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:26.080 of tacky or shallow or misguided about wanting to be 1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:29.240 the center of everybody's, attention or especially wanting to be 1:33:29.320 --> 1:33:32.320 the center of everybody's attention as mediated through technology like 1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:35.880 video and The, internet but actually goes a step farther 1:33:36.040 --> 1:33:40.360 and suggests the desire for attention like this is related 1:33:40.400 --> 1:33:43.280 to a kind of, dominance, strive a desire to have 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:48.040 power over others and even inflict pain on. Them and 1:33:48.240 --> 1:33:49.000 that hit home for. 1:33:49.120 --> 1:33:49.200 Me. 1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:52.680 Somehow, AGAIN i don't want to SUGGEST i think this 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:55.880 was explicitly thought out in the, script but it feels 1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:59.360 like a potent theme the movie stumbles into. Here there's 1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:02.880 something about this obsession with like being on camera and 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:05.760 having people far away all watching you at the same 1:34:05.800 --> 1:34:09.840 time that is like a kind of power and domination and. 1:34:10.240 --> 1:34:13.280 Sadism yeah, Yeah and they do come back to it 1:34:13.560 --> 1:34:14.760 later on as, well. 1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:16.800 Anyway and the Scene sid gets a drink made for 1:34:16.880 --> 1:34:21.160 him by A Johnny cab And sid is like to, 1:34:21.200 --> 1:34:24.080 think you constitute one of my. Ancestors and then of 1:34:24.080 --> 1:34:24.960 course that's. 1:34:24.800 --> 1:34:26.479 A lot of a couple of moments in here though 1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:28.640 with The, androids WHERE i was, like they're kind of 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:30.920 getting into some of the territory That Ridley scott would 1:34:30.960 --> 1:34:34.200 later get into With david and the The alien, prequels 1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:38.679 but with less nuance and and more just outright. Meanness that's. 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:42.280 Funny. Yeah. Uh he starts rampaging in the, club of, 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:44.240 course and then this will be a type of scene that. 1:34:44.280 --> 1:34:48.680 Recurs he takes everybody, hostage forces the camera to like film. Him. 1:34:49.000 --> 1:34:50.479 Uh and then in one. 1:34:50.360 --> 1:34:53.200 Funny, Bit Crazy lords gets, away though she does run. 1:34:53.240 --> 1:34:56.120 Away the guy behind her gets, shot but she makes it. 1:34:56.840 --> 1:35:01.520 And then he. Starts he starts making everybody record screams 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:03.920 that he can play back and remix at THE dj. 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.840 Station this scene is really, something And Russell crowe is 1:35:06.880 --> 1:35:09.479 just like roaring with improvisational. Energy. 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:12.960 YEAH i mean it's a weird mix, though because on one, 1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:15.720 hand like a scene where someone terrorizes a bunch of 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:18.160 people with a, gun, yes it's LIKE i don't like. 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:21.080 It but on the other, hand so many other aspects 1:35:21.080 --> 1:35:23.360 of this sequence are so over the top that and 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:26.280 the performance at the center of it is is so 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:28.240 over the top you kind of like it as. 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:31.479 WELL i mentioned this earlier that one of the WAYS 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:36.439 i think this movie kind of really sits weird is 1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:40.040 a tonal. MISMATCH i think this is actually true With 1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:43.880 barnes's backstory as. Well the thing about like his family being. 1:35:44.000 --> 1:35:48.439 Murdered it's a Weird it's weird because The barnes backstory 1:35:48.479 --> 1:35:52.040 is on one, hand like, hackneyed, obvious overly familiar for 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:54.160 this type of, character you, know the, Copy he's taken 1:35:54.160 --> 1:35:56.840 it too, personal and at the same time it is 1:35:57.080 --> 1:36:01.599 excessively cruel and horrible for the context of this goofy, 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:04.559 movie AND i felt a similar way about a lot 1:36:04.600 --> 1:36:08.599 of these. Scenes like the club scene is at once 1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:14.240 like goofy but also just a little too. Nasty it's like, 1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:15.840 both it's going off in both. 1:36:15.880 --> 1:36:18.479 Directions, yeah, yeah SO i THINK i think you're right 1:36:18.479 --> 1:36:20.080 there that the tone is off. 1:36:20.080 --> 1:36:30.040 Here of, course this all gets interrupted When barnes shows, 1:36:30.120 --> 1:36:31.880 up and this leads to a shootout and a car. 1:36:32.000 --> 1:36:34.160 Chase i'm not going to narrate all the action, scenes 1:36:34.520 --> 1:36:36.760 but a lot of the rest of the movie follows this. 1:36:36.880 --> 1:36:40.600 Format sid goes, somewhere he starts. Rampaging he wants to 1:36:40.600 --> 1:36:44.320 be on. Camera he's killing, people taking. Hostages barnes, arrives 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:46.840 there is a fight and a, chase and Then sid gets. 1:36:46.880 --> 1:36:49.280 Away, yeah and then they need to go find, him 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:51.840 and they realize that he is going to go where 1:36:51.840 --> 1:36:53.960 the attention. Is he's going to go where the media. Is, 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:56.880 yeah and that's how we end up following, him for, 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:58.200 instance to the to the. 1:36:58.240 --> 1:37:00.720 Octagon oh, Boy, okay so, YEAH i think we're near 1:37:00.840 --> 1:37:02.479 the end of our plot recap, here but we do 1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:03.879 have to talk about THE ufc. 1:37:03.920 --> 1:37:06.640 Scene, Yeah SO i was EXPECTED i Had, AGAIN i 1:37:06.640 --> 1:37:11.120 hadn't seen virtuosity in its, ENTIRETY i. Think BUT i 1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:12.920 was looking over the cast AND i, noticed, oh, Well 1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:14.960 ken shamrocks in, this it looks like there's going to 1:37:15.000 --> 1:37:18.040 be SOME ufc. Action SO i was prepared for some 1:37:18.080 --> 1:37:22.200 potentially HAMMY ufc product. Integration AND i would have to 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:24.760 SAY i was a bit shocked by how negatively the 1:37:24.800 --> 1:37:28.280 film PORTRAYS mma AND mma, fandom yes. 1:37:28.479 --> 1:37:32.400 Virtuosity it depicts THE ufc as like a blood cult 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:36.599 in which the the the audience are fanatical acolytes that 1:37:36.760 --> 1:37:39.800 chant in unison for death even as people are like 1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:41.679 murdered in the audience around. 1:37:41.680 --> 1:37:44.400 Them, yeah it's like they're a bunch of, bloodthirsty half 1:37:44.479 --> 1:37:47.839 naked savages who only pause in their chanting to violently 1:37:47.840 --> 1:37:49.920 attack or grope each other like. That how that's how 1:37:49.960 --> 1:37:52.640 the movie is PRESENTING. Ufc and even action in the 1:37:52.680 --> 1:37:56.519 octagon doesn't even resemble an ACTUAL mma. Match it's like 1:37:56.560 --> 1:37:58.760 two different fights are going. ON i think there's a 1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:00.360 ref in, there but it's just pure. 1:38:00.439 --> 1:38:03.479 Chaos it was only their ambitious image of what the 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:04.160 future could. 1:38:04.160 --> 1:38:09.680 Hold, yeah and So sid shows up notices that like 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:12.800 a pretty lady is on like the what The Titan 1:38:12.880 --> 1:38:15.040 tron or whatever the heck the big screen is. There 1:38:15.240 --> 1:38:18.400 he goes up and is creepy towards her and then 1:38:18.720 --> 1:38:21.760 like pulls out a, gun does a backflip into the, 1:38:21.800 --> 1:38:25.519 octagon intentionally landing like on his head and, back and 1:38:25.560 --> 1:38:29.040 then gets up and starts intimidating all the dudes in the, 1:38:29.040 --> 1:38:32.479 octagon Including Ken. SHAMROCK i was a little disappointed that 1:38:32.560 --> 1:38:34.559 The World's Most Dangerous man didn't make a move On, 1:38:34.680 --> 1:38:35.679 sid but fair. 1:38:35.800 --> 1:38:39.280 ENOUGH i don't know about Most Dangerous man's. STATUS i 1:38:39.320 --> 1:38:41.720 only Remember Ken. Shameron wasn't he in THE wwf in the? 1:38:41.800 --> 1:38:44.840 Nineties he, Was, yeah, okay that's ALL i. Remember he 1:38:44.880 --> 1:38:46.680 had some matches With. Vader so it's, like if he's 1:38:46.720 --> 1:38:48.280 going to stand up To, vader you'd think he'd stand 1:38:48.320 --> 1:38:50.720 up To. Sid but you, know he's, like it's, LIKE 1:38:50.760 --> 1:38:52.880 i see you got blue blood coming out of. You fair, 1:38:53.000 --> 1:38:53.679 Enough i'm standing. 1:38:53.760 --> 1:38:56.880 Back that's smart, Move. Ken don't be a. 1:38:56.920 --> 1:38:59.880 Hero so basically the same thing is going to happen, here, Right, 1:39:00.320 --> 1:39:03.639 Yeah parker shows, up runs shoots at, him more blue, 1:39:03.640 --> 1:39:05.920 blood more, violence and then he gets. Away. 1:39:06.240 --> 1:39:09.120 Yeah and, now AS i, mentioned or MAYBE i didn't 1:39:09.120 --> 1:39:11.559 mention this, earlier there's a whole. Thing i'm not gonna bother. 1:39:11.680 --> 1:39:14.040 Explaining in the middle of the, Movie barnes gets framed 1:39:14.080 --> 1:39:17.000 for a, murder so he gets re arrested and all 1:39:17.040 --> 1:39:19.960 this stuff. Happens sid actually sets him free because he 1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:22.519 wants to. Play it's like The joker In. Batman it's, 1:39:22.560 --> 1:39:26.680 LIKE i need, you you complete. Me the climax of 1:39:26.680 --> 1:39:29.680 the film takes place in a skyscraper that is the 1:39:29.680 --> 1:39:34.920 home of A tv station where there is a televised debate. 1:39:35.040 --> 1:39:37.200 Happening that's what Draws sid there because he's, like he 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:42.320 wants attention about a current political controversy over. Immigration this 1:39:42.400 --> 1:39:44.840 part kind of came out of nowhere and hit uncomfortably. 1:39:44.880 --> 1:39:48.439 Hard but so there's like one guy ON tv saying 1:39:48.479 --> 1:39:51.439 like immigration breathes life into the, culture and another guy 1:39:51.600 --> 1:39:54.720 demagoguing against immigrants and saying we got to close the, 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:57.719 border and Then sid shows up and does the same. 1:39:57.760 --> 1:40:00.800 Thing he shoots, people takes hostages and takes over the live. 1:40:00.880 --> 1:40:05.080 Broadcast he takes over, it redubs it what MURDER, Tv 1:40:05.439 --> 1:40:08.960 MURDER tv or DEATH TV. Tv, yeah and also has 1:40:09.000 --> 1:40:10.080 his own like. 1:40:10.240 --> 1:40:15.800 Logo yeah he brought a graphics. Package yeah he really. 1:40:15.800 --> 1:40:18.559 DID i MEAN i guess he's a virtual reality, thing 1:40:18.680 --> 1:40:20.600 so he can do that sort of sort of. 1:40:20.680 --> 1:40:24.160 Thing so as he torments and terrorizes the hostages on, 1:40:24.240 --> 1:40:26.960 air he's he's still he's like obsessed with checking out his. 1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:29.680 Ratings he's, like, look what what Ratings i'm? Getting? Oh, 1:40:29.760 --> 1:40:31.840 Yeah the viewers love. This they love the way you're 1:40:31.880 --> 1:40:36.000 screaming more tuning in every, minute and once again this 1:40:36.240 --> 1:40:41.840 surprisingly interesting theme Linking sid's sadism and cruelty fundamentally with 1:40:41.880 --> 1:40:46.519 his desire for attention mediated by, technology and in, fact 1:40:46.640 --> 1:40:49.240 the good guys sort of defeat him, here at least in, 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:52.760 part distract him by cutting the. Feed they, like turn 1:40:52.840 --> 1:40:55.759 off the broadcast and limit his access to his, audience 1:40:56.040 --> 1:40:59.759 And zid hates, this and this leads to a final 1:40:59.840 --> 1:41:02.680 chain and fight in the network building Between barnes And. 1:41:02.720 --> 1:41:06.640 Sid of, course as one could have guessed from developments, 1:41:06.640 --> 1:41:10.639 Earlier sid has Taken carter's daughter, hostage and they while 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:13.040 they're chasing, around they're, like where's the Girl and there's 1:41:13.080 --> 1:41:15.160 a there's a booby trap bomb and all that kind of. 1:41:15.160 --> 1:41:17.679 Stuff BUT i don't, Know, rob are there any elements 1:41:17.680 --> 1:41:18.600 of the climax you want to? 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:21.120 Hit? YEAH i mean they get. It, Basically parker And 1:41:21.160 --> 1:41:24.120 sid get a, big die hard sque battle on top 1:41:24.160 --> 1:41:27.040 of the, skyscraper And sid plummets through a whole bunch 1:41:27.040 --> 1:41:29.840 of glass panels and is impaled on like a million 1:41:29.880 --> 1:41:33.559 pieces of. Glass and Then parker goes down to, like you, 1:41:33.600 --> 1:41:36.040 know check, out see if he's. Dead he's not dead. 1:41:36.080 --> 1:41:37.960 Yet we get a nice tight scene where he's trying 1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:40.759 to Pull parker into the the sharp shards of. Glass 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:44.439 he's regenerating off of the, glass because, remember eating glass 1:41:44.479 --> 1:41:47.080 and touching wounds to glass is how he. Heals but 1:41:47.240 --> 1:41:49.559 there's a lot of repair work that needs to happen, 1:41:49.600 --> 1:41:52.559 here and before he can do, It parker reaches in 1:41:52.560 --> 1:41:54.960 through the back of his skull and rips out his 1:41:55.040 --> 1:41:58.840 little module and seemingly defeats the. Villain but then they're, 1:41:58.840 --> 1:42:00.719 like but we don't know where the girl is, hidden 1:42:00.760 --> 1:42:02.559 and then we get. IT i thought this was a nice. 1:42:02.600 --> 1:42:05.240 Twist they like load him back up in the virtual 1:42:05.520 --> 1:42:10.519 they replay what just, happened but but they let him 1:42:10.520 --> 1:42:12.559 get the upper hands so that he'll spill where the 1:42:12.600 --> 1:42:13.400 girl is. Hiding. 1:42:13.720 --> 1:42:15.880 RIGHT i thought this was actually a pretty clever twist 1:42:16.000 --> 1:42:19.000 where s, yeah that's. Right so they what they need 1:42:19.080 --> 1:42:21.679 is information From, sid so they killed. Him they defeated 1:42:21.760 --> 1:42:24.120 him too, early so they have to go back into 1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:26.960 the virtual world trick him into thinking he's still in 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:29.840 the real world so that he will spill the, beans you, 1:42:29.880 --> 1:42:32.479 know really give his villain monologue where he reveals the, 1:42:32.479 --> 1:42:37.599 information Which parker AND u and doctor And madison both 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:39.120 that they work together to figure that. 1:42:39.160 --> 1:42:41.680 Out, yeah so that was, solid and of course we. 1:42:41.680 --> 1:42:44.559 Do we also get a scene Where sid realizes he's 1:42:44.560 --> 1:42:46.840 been caught and he jokes out real, hard and we 1:42:46.880 --> 1:42:49.920 get this scene with like multiple sid, faces digital sid 1:42:49.960 --> 1:42:56.479 faces making angry expressions extreme. Jobing, yes, yeah but then 1:42:56.600 --> 1:43:01.200 the plot requires us to also just arm of bomby 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:05.880 that The Little girl's place of concealment is booby trapped 1:43:05.880 --> 1:43:09.280 With and this scene just feels very anticlimactic to. Me it's, 1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:12.400 like we just had like a really awesome final. Fight 1:43:12.800 --> 1:43:15.880 we had this nice little twist on top of that final, 1:43:15.920 --> 1:43:19.200 fight but now we're just doing like a standard you, 1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:20.519 know LIKE tv show bomb. 1:43:20.520 --> 1:43:23.719 Disartment, yeah which wire is? It and the final solution 1:43:23.880 --> 1:43:28.240 to the bomb deactivation Involves barnes using components from his bionic. 1:43:28.320 --> 1:43:31.360 Arm did you remember that he had a bionic arm 1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:31.600 at this. 1:43:31.720 --> 1:43:34.439 POINT i only thought of it when he ripped the 1:43:34.479 --> 1:43:36.120 module out of the. HEAD i was, LIKE i guess 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:39.000 because it CLEARLY i felt like we'd sprinkled this detail 1:43:39.080 --> 1:43:40.720 enough to where it would have to come back and have, 1:43:40.840 --> 1:43:43.080 meaning AND i, thought, WELL i guess that was. It 1:43:43.080 --> 1:43:46.880 it was because he used the prosthetic arm to rip 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:50.080 out the, Module so it kind of surprised. Me, Again it's, like, Oh, 1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:52.840 okay this is how we're actually going to make use 1:43:52.880 --> 1:43:53.080 of this. 1:43:53.160 --> 1:43:56.120 Detail he like pulls fiber optics out of his forearm 1:43:56.160 --> 1:43:58.559 and then like inserts them into the bomb to defuse. 1:43:58.600 --> 1:44:02.240 It that's pretty. Good. Yeah also in the, end when 1:44:02.280 --> 1:44:06.799 they Defeat barnes DESTROYS sid six point seven's character module, 1:44:06.800 --> 1:44:10.360 bite throwing it off the top of the. Skyscraper, MAN 1:44:10.479 --> 1:44:12.960 i feel LIKE i would have done something a little more. Certain, 1:44:13.479 --> 1:44:16.080 yeah we do like follow up and we see it 1:44:16.160 --> 1:44:18.200 run over by a, truck so it's all. Good sid's. 1:44:18.200 --> 1:44:20.280 Gone but wouldn't you would you want to make sure 1:44:20.320 --> 1:44:21.760 it was. Destroyed you don't even know where it. 1:44:21.840 --> 1:44:24.840 Lands, yeah what it landed in the back of like 1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:28.840 a shipment of? Pillows or something OR i don't. KNOW 1:44:28.880 --> 1:44:31.800 i don't. Know there are so many ways that could 1:44:31.840 --> 1:44:33.880 have been. Saved or maybe it hits somebody in the 1:44:33.880 --> 1:44:36.320 head and gets embedded in their. Brain what happens, THEN 1:44:36.360 --> 1:44:36.679 i don't. 1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:38.240 Know Guess i'm your party. 1:44:38.280 --> 1:44:41.800 Man so that is virtuosity in all its. 1:44:41.800 --> 1:44:45.240 GLORY i feel like we still actually didn't hit everything 1:44:45.280 --> 1:44:49.479 that's potentially interesting about. It but, YES i will vouch for. 1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:53.400 It the viewing. Experience despite some tonal, mismatch some things 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:55.760 that are just just go a little bit harder than 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:57.680 they need to or a little bit nastier than they 1:44:57.720 --> 1:45:01.599 need to, be it is still a, pretty uh in, 1:45:01.640 --> 1:45:04.400 fact quite, funny nostalgic and enjoyable. 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:07.240 Experience, yeah it is A it's a movie that will 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:09.360 make you laugh and it will make you think there's. 1:45:09.479 --> 1:45:12.800 There there are various parts of this film that the 1:45:12.960 --> 1:45:17.719 do connect in interesting ways with with where we are, now, technologically, socially, 1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:18.400 politically and. 1:45:18.479 --> 1:45:21.639 MORE i just want to, say one last, time hats 1:45:21.640 --> 1:45:25.720 off To russell And. DENZEL i MEAN i advocate. THIS i, 1:45:25.760 --> 1:45:29.400 think like a list actors should take the time to do, 1:45:29.560 --> 1:45:33.200 weird trashy little b movies and just and just go 1:45:33.320 --> 1:45:35.599 all the, way don't hold, back do give it your. 1:45:35.640 --> 1:45:39.559 Best absolutely all, Right we're gonna go and close out 1:45:39.600 --> 1:45:42.599 this episode Of Weird House, cinema but we would love 1:45:42.600 --> 1:45:45.080 to hear from everyone out. There what do You what 1:45:45.080 --> 1:45:46.920 do you think Of? Virtuosity did you see it back 1:45:46.960 --> 1:45:48.240 in the nineties when it came out or do you 1:45:48.280 --> 1:45:51.880 at least remember the? Trailers have you rediscovered it or 1:45:51.920 --> 1:45:54.559 watched it for the first time in recent, Years we 1:45:54.600 --> 1:45:57.880 would love to hear your. 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