WEBVTT - Priyanka Chopra Jonas: From Bollywood to Hollywood 

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the more capable of dealing with life if

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<v Speaker 1>it's thrown at me. I feel a lot more at peace.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the mean to choose joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to She Pivots, the podcast where we talk with

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<v Speaker 2>women who dared to pivot out of one career and

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<v Speaker 2>into something new and explore how their personal lives impacted

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<v Speaker 2>these decisions. I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone, I apologize if my voice is a little scratchy.

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<v Speaker 2>I hosted my two daughters third and fifth birthday party

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend and I am left physically drained. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited to bring you this week's episode with

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<v Speaker 2>Prianca Chopra Jonas. She has been a dream guest of

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<v Speaker 2>mine since forever. Her pivot from Bollywood to Hollywood at

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<v Speaker 2>the height of her career has always intrigued me, but

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<v Speaker 2>in truth, I thought her other ventures, like in the

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant industry, hair care products, philanthropy, and investments might be

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<v Speaker 2>the focus of our discussion. Though she does own the

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant Sona in New York City and have her hair

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<v Speaker 2>care line called Anomaly, her pivot into Hollywood was ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>what shaped and defined the new trajectory of her career.

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<v Speaker 2>During our conversation, Prianca dives into what it means to

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<v Speaker 2>be a new mom and how her definition of success

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<v Speaker 2>has changed over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy I'm Priyanka and I'm an actor by profession, but

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy doing a lot of things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Which identity do you feel like you're the strongest in

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<v Speaker 2>at any moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I know my craft as an actor

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<v Speaker 1>the most. But I think I'm a homebody, like I

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<v Speaker 1>love family, friends, being at home always since I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, being that person like looking for adventure. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I identify most as an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we go back to little pre growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think you wanted to be when you

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<v Speaker 2>grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I had amazing examples with my parents, with my aunts

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<v Speaker 1>and uncles. Everyone was very academic, you know, doctors, engineers,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone went to work. There was a consistency around

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that people could work and then you come

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<v Speaker 1>back home and everyone has dinner together. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>normality around it. So I just wanted to be something

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<v Speaker 1>different every year. Some days I was just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do anything when I grow up. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be an adult because in your brain you

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<v Speaker 1>think that adults really can do nothing right. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there were days I wanted to be like an astrophysicist,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had my days. I think I hadn't finished

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out what and who I wanted to be when

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<v Speaker 1>I fell upon my vocation, you know, yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>became my job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you moved back and forth or into the US

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of around the US a lot when you

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<v Speaker 2>were young. How do you think that that impacted your

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<v Speaker 2>perception of what it meant to be like grown up

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<v Speaker 2>or how you were going to be a grown up?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming to the US when I was thirteen definitely defined

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<v Speaker 1>me in a big way because my mom went back

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<v Speaker 1>home and she went to India, and I was living

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<v Speaker 1>with my aunt and uncle, who were highly strict and

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<v Speaker 1>conservative because obviously I was somebody else's teenager that was

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<v Speaker 1>living with them, and I wasn't an easy kid. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it very easy on them. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>I already thought I was an adult because now I

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<v Speaker 1>was living without my parents, and I had moved continents,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that I had done so much that

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<v Speaker 1>other kids my age hadn't done. So I used to

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<v Speaker 1>write letters to my friends from America and being like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make up stuff, like I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>mall and it was just so fun. I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was a grown up for my whole teenage years.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it sort of a shock to move back to

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<v Speaker 2>India with your parents and you're like, oh, yeah, my

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<v Speaker 2>parents again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a shock because mine was really unique

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<v Speaker 1>as a story because I lived with my aunt and uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's sister, and my cousins in you know, Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>New York. I was for like a good three four years,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like twelve thirteen, and then I was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly I go back to a small town

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<v Speaker 1>in India, and my parents were so happy that I

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<v Speaker 1>was back. But I went like, you know, a flat

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<v Speaker 1>chested twelve year old, and I came back home American

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<v Speaker 1>hormones and all like a curvy sixteen year old. And

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<v Speaker 1>my dad, I think was intimidated by me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was just like, I don't know what to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this, you know, girl child woman that I had

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<v Speaker 1>in my home. So he had to really grapple with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I, you know, had come back from this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very confident. I liked attention I loved boys. At

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<v Speaker 1>this time, I had just figure out that I was

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<v Speaker 1>a girl and had crushes, and so suddenly I felt

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<v Speaker 1>really grown up compared to the other sixteen year olds

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<v Speaker 1>in Burreley, which is a small town in India, where

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<v Speaker 1>they used to listen to my stories that like as

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<v Speaker 1>if there were adventures from across the like almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a pirate. I felt like I could I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>anyone any story and there would be like an arrested

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<v Speaker 1>audience listening to me. It was really was. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds actually really fun. So did you feel like going

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<v Speaker 2>into pageants felt like kind of natural then, because it

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<v Speaker 2>was around that time that you started right, You're so.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I think in my vain teenage mind, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was really popular in my small town because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that I'd come back from the States,

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to behave like I was twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>even though I was sixteen with everyone, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>younger girls in my school Army school would take autographs

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<v Speaker 1>from me and get me to sign their books and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was really feeling myself. Honestly, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>more independent than any of these roles. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is to be a woman, and I take

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<v Speaker 1>these like soft focused small shots. So when I got

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<v Speaker 1>this phone call from Miss India, can you imagine my

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<v Speaker 1>like narcissistic self at sixteen, was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>they've probably heard about me.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it was actually her younger brother who submitted

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<v Speaker 2>her for the Miss India pageant after a sibling fight

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<v Speaker 2>over who would get the bedroom. He checked with their

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<v Speaker 2>mom that Brianca would have to move away if accepted,

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<v Speaker 2>and after confirming she would be out of the room,

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<v Speaker 2>he sent in an application. Okay, so you see this

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<v Speaker 2>ad in this matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten year old Sid sees this ad and he tells

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<v Speaker 1>my mom she'll have to move to Mumbai, right if

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<v Speaker 1>she wins this thing. Aca I didn't send my pictures

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff in for the pageant, and my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>my brother sentlers. My mother was sen years old. They

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<v Speaker 1>sent those pictures in from Miss India. Miss Indians was

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<v Speaker 1>very popular in India at that time. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a phone call for semi finals Miss India.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she might be the popular either India or

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<v Speaker 1>tasty Indian Missus. Of course. Polanka Chapra, very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Lighty, eighteen years old, and she's a woman that loves sunts,

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<v Speaker 2>anouncing and no Indian fight.

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<v Speaker 1>And go school. Our next summer finalists, Miss India Popular.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this pred to kick off the new millennium. Prianca

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<v Speaker 2>won Miss World in two thousand. The win launched her

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<v Speaker 2>into the spotlight and that confidence she had as a

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<v Speaker 2>teenager began to pay off. But I mean, you had

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<v Speaker 2>such success at it so quickly. Did it feel like

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<v Speaker 2>confirmation for you? Or did it feel scary a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit of bows? I realized like my nature. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about this to my mom yesterday, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting that you're asking me that today. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. I was talking to her about consistent traits

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<v Speaker 1>that I've had since I was My mom's on tour

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<v Speaker 1>with me, so because she's with the baby when I

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<v Speaker 1>do press. My husband's on tour as well. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking last night about consistent things that I do,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have done since I was young. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was three, I had this toy which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you hit it, it comes back. In India,

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<v Speaker 1>it was called to hit Me, So you hit it

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<v Speaker 1>and it just rolls back at you, and you hit

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<v Speaker 1>it and means to roll back at you, and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>gave it to me. My mom said, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>really like two or three, I hit it really hard

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<v Speaker 1>and it came back and smacked me, and I fell down,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got really scared of it. But the choice

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<v Speaker 1>I made when I was scared was I went back

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<v Speaker 1>and hit it and took the air out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so then it could never hit me back, versus being

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of it for the rest of my life. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not want to run from a fight, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one to run from a challenge or something that

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<v Speaker 1>scares me. And I think that's what happened at seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't know the terrain I was in. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never modeled before. I didn't have the experience of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie industry or the glamour industry or entertainment at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrown into this whole new world. My parents didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it. They were both academic in a small town,

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<v Speaker 1>middle class family and here we are in big bad Mumbai,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's It was just a whole change.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the same circumstances, it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me figure out how to kill it, Like, how

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to be the one that wins this.

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<v Speaker 1>How am I going to be the one that fines

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<v Speaker 1>my nature's solution? Oriented I'm very like I can figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the steps to get towards my goal. At that time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just instinctual, and my instinct just told me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to learn, I've got to observe, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to see where I am and survive and in I

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<v Speaker 1>think that discipline. My career has always been that. I

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<v Speaker 1>never went to acting school. I learned on the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on movies. I observed my pole stars, my directors.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured out I learned the technical side of cinema

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<v Speaker 1>and filmmaking because I didn't know anything, so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Brand new to the industry, she had to either sink

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<v Speaker 2>or swim, So she dove in head first, learning everything

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone she could in the entertainment industry in India.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had multiple situations in my life where just

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to just pivot and figure it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>this first case that I'm talking about was being thrown

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<v Speaker 1>into the deep end of pageants and I've never done that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never modeled. I didn't know what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a gown or a sorry. I remember one

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<v Speaker 1>of the supermodels of the time, her name was Madelsafre.

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<v Speaker 1>She had told me, you know, you have to and walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one was Nionica at that time, Indian supermodel. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to kick the heel for the inside of a

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<v Speaker 1>gown or a starry or if anything is floor length,

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<v Speaker 1>you kick the inside of it. So by the time

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back, your second step is taken. You'll never

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<v Speaker 1>trip and you look like a model. And so those

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<v Speaker 1>little like hips that I observed that I ask and

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<v Speaker 1>befriended people, and you know that just kind of you

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<v Speaker 1>have to pivot and you have to survive human beings

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<v Speaker 1>inherently with survivors, and we have it inside of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have to have confidence and treat ourselves with

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<v Speaker 1>the faith that you can handle it. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is a very scary thing to be able to pivot

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<v Speaker 1>into something that you don't know and that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with, that you don't have an understanding of. I

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<v Speaker 1>made a career out of it, so I used to

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<v Speaker 1>beat myself up about it all the time when I

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<v Speaker 1>had failures or if I didn't know something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I compared myself to people who had way more experience

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<v Speaker 1>than me. I wanted to run before I could walk,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't do that. You kind of when you pivot.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't run when you pivot. You have to just

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<v Speaker 1>take a breath, take a second, take baby steps, take

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<v Speaker 1>one step at a time, find your balance and then run.

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<v Speaker 2>She took off running. She made her on screen debut

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and two and Bollywood debut in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and three. From then on, she did multiple movies

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<v Speaker 2>a year, becoming one of the most famous Bollywood actresses.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so curious to know how your idea of success evolved. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you were starting out in Bollywood, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you did like four to five movies a year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was you did crazy volume of movies, Like was it?

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<v Speaker 1>I was greedy. I didn't want anyone else to get them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, man, Like you know, you're the flavor of

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<v Speaker 1>a season, and if you're the season's happening, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like got a cash in on it. So at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, success to me was having a next job, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I have my next shop. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can breathe for another three months. Now, where am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to go? To next and like, who am I meeting?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's interested in me? What's my how do I keep

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<v Speaker 1>myself relevant? And that was success to me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of years into being good at my

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<v Speaker 1>job now and people casting me in really interesting, complex roles,

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<v Speaker 1>winning accolades, I kind of found stability a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and confidence in the fact that yeah I could. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to keep getting work because you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>do like watching me in movies and the movies would

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<v Speaker 1>do well. And then I decided to move to America

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<v Speaker 1>started all over again.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big risk. A few actors had moved

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<v Speaker 2>from Bollywood to Hollywood at the time, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>her relationships were in India, so pivoting to Hollywood meant

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<v Speaker 2>starting from scratch. But after a few years of getting

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<v Speaker 2>passed up for the dynamic roles she was looking for,

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<v Speaker 2>it was time to move on. She decided to follow

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity and when into the music industry as her path

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<v Speaker 2>to break into the American market.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was early thirties. I was like, oh gosh, now,

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<v Speaker 1>what has success to me? I wanted to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to not it was a big risk. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a relatively relevant career in India and I was

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<v Speaker 1>compelled to pivot and come to the States. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing music at that time, but again something I

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<v Speaker 1>had never done before. So I was like, okay, thrown

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<v Speaker 1>into the deep end, working with like well, I am Pharrell,

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<v Speaker 1>read one these amazing producers. I was like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>got to figure it out. So I took classes, I learned,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just when the music came out, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>a little manufactured, but I very quickly was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I should go back to my day job, something

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<v Speaker 1>that I have a little bit more control about and

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And I started seeking work in America as

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<v Speaker 1>an actor. So I'm seeking work in America. People really

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<v Speaker 1>don't know me, and there was a stereotype around Bollywood

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<v Speaker 1>actors and kind of felt like, will she be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do mainstream work. I played so many different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of roles, worked in many many different genres, worked with

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<v Speaker 1>incredible filmmakers. I want to be able to do that here.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to work in international cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to work in different languages

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<v Speaker 1>in different industries, and I want to push myself. That

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<v Speaker 1>kind of took a little bit of breaking down ceilings

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<v Speaker 1>doing auditions, pivoting from what people thought I was capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think then success was to get a job

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, I was a lead.

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<v Speaker 2>So like everyone else, she auditioned a change from roles

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<v Speaker 2>she had just been offered from the time she had

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<v Speaker 2>won Miss World. She eventually landed the lead role in

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<v Speaker 2>a primetime TV show, ABC's new thriller drama Quantico.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Alex Parrish. Protecting our country had always

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<v Speaker 1>been my dream. I want to go. They say it's

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest boot camp, grad school all rolled into one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's see if you can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And So success and my relationship with success and what

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<v Speaker 1>it means has been different at different times, as it

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<v Speaker 1>is with everyone as your life and career changes. I

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<v Speaker 1>also do enjoy evolving as a human being and as

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<v Speaker 1>an artist, and I want to find like what the

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<v Speaker 1>next step is, what the next goal is. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just turned forty that last year as well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like in this new decade of my life, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want to push myself as an artist and

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<v Speaker 1>see in this part of the world in America be

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<v Speaker 1>able to work with the diversity of characters that I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed in my work in Bollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>Brianca has an impressive roster of roles in movies in

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<v Speaker 2>Bollywood and has now established herself as a force with

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<v Speaker 2>her work in Hollywood. Just this spring, she has released

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<v Speaker 2>two major productions, her show Citadel on Amazon Prime and

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<v Speaker 2>her movie Love Again, which is out in theaters now.

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<v Speaker 2>To have to films slash shows coming out that are

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<v Speaker 2>so different when you play such different characters, what was

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<v Speaker 2>that like for you personally? Did they film in blocks

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<v Speaker 2>that you could just finish one and go to the next,

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<v Speaker 2>or did you have to go back and forth between

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So lucky that this was filmed in blocks. Both of

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<v Speaker 1>them were. I shot Love Again twenty twenty like November,

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<v Speaker 1>November and December. We finished in two months, and then

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty twenty one I started Citadel and we finished

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<v Speaker 1>next year. I think June was a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half of filming.

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<v Speaker 2>So your new show Citadel, which is out on Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>right now, is a type of show that has never

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<v Speaker 2>been done before, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been anything like this, not on film or

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. Where multiple installments around the world are being

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<v Speaker 1>created by local filmmakers, writers and top talent of industries.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest industries in the world which are like India,

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<v Speaker 1>Italy and Hollywood right, So to have filmmakers and writers

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<v Speaker 1>and talent from all three of them and storytelling that

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<v Speaker 1>are interconnected is just a mammoth amazing ambition and is

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<v Speaker 1>so I think cool too, and has such amazing foresight.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think about where the global industry is actually

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<v Speaker 1>heading to. With streamers, people are not consuming entertainment just

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<v Speaker 1>made in their own countries or their own language anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>As someone who worked in Hindi language entertainment, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see viewers consuming all kinds of languages. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about storytelling and the authenticity of the characters, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so joyous to me. So I think the foresight

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<v Speaker 1>of Citadel is very cool and it's foreshadowing towards how

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<v Speaker 1>storytelling will be.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see that as potentially your next I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to call it pivot, but like bridging between the

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<v Speaker 2>Bollywood and Hollywood world, like to be in both versions.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, Definitely, that's like something that is I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, But I intend to do another Indian

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<v Speaker 1>movie next year with actually two of my active friends.

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<v Speaker 1>One is called Aliabat and another one's called Kacriina CAF.

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<v Speaker 1>They're amazing actresses and really successful superstars in India. So

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us decided we're going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>road trip movie together. So hopefully we do that next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, the idea is there are very few actors

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<v Speaker 1>that have enjoyed the ability to work seamlessly between two

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<v Speaker 1>industries or two countries. You know, sama Hia did it

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<v Speaker 1>for a bit, Penelope Cruise has done it. The Filler

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<v Speaker 1>ended it with Italian movies. A Shwar I did it

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<v Speaker 1>with Indian movies back in the day. I don't take

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity for granted. I want to definitely be able

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<v Speaker 1>to as long as people enjoy watching me. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to work in both industries as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I just have to also ask you about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you did a lot of your own

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<v Speaker 2>stunts for Nadia, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I come from the background of action movies. I

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<v Speaker 1>have done a few in my bodywould work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And like this is fifteen years ago or so. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was first doing little action in my movies, like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even have like proper body double. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have like a little man in a wig that

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<v Speaker 1>was dressed in my clothes with shaved arms and legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would do the stunts, you know, and that's evolved

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<v Speaker 1>so much in cinema. So I really learned how to

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<v Speaker 1>horne my craft, trust my body, do my stunts safely

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<v Speaker 1>because I had to do a lot of it myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, the directors really wanted the actors'

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<v Speaker 1>faces as much as we could in the stunt scenes

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<v Speaker 1>because our characters are not superheroes. They're real human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>They bleed, they get hurt, they die, so they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the gravity of that of the viewer to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not someone who does it because I get

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<v Speaker 1>a kick out or a thrill out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to wrap early and go home, but

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<v Speaker 4>it required a lot of training, a year and a

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<v Speaker 4>half of working and with the stunt team and consistently

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<v Speaker 4>preparing your body was like an athlete, consistently for a

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<v Speaker 4>year and a half preparing your body for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>being battered and thrown around and do that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot tell you how excited it was the day wrapped.

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<v Speaker 1>I ate so much for the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Two months as you're talking and I'm seeing your tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering how significant are your tattoos.

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<v Speaker 1>All my tattoos are very special, and all of them

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<v Speaker 1>have a meaning. I have my dog's paws on my ankle,

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<v Speaker 1>a little one, a medium one, or a large one.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a German shepherd, a husky and a chuaa.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I have this is my dad's handwriting, says

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy's little girl. He's on me a little girl. And

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<v Speaker 1>I got this my first tattoo a year before he passed.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is it's a chat. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you can see it, but it's a box and a

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<v Speaker 1>check on this side, which my husband has on his

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<v Speaker 1>arms as well, just because you know, I checked all

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<v Speaker 1>his boxes. That's how he proposed. Oh my god, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that. So that became our thing. So we commemorated

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<v Speaker 1>it by getting cattooes together. That's great. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>have the world on my arm because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I belonged to the world. I love traveling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>travel has been my best teacher. And when I put

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<v Speaker 1>my arm down in india's right next to my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's amazing. So who do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like is your I don't know your mentors, your support network.

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<v Speaker 2>Like as you go through these pivots, now, have you

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<v Speaker 2>started to see trends?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I am so grateful for my mom and my nanny.

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<v Speaker 1>Like every single day, I you know, before I leave

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<v Speaker 1>for work, I say thank you so much because you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>I am able to go and do my work without

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. I just think that people we get

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<v Speaker 1>so caught up nowadays. It's so much easier for us

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<v Speaker 1>to write on social media than it is to actually

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<v Speaker 1>have him an interaction and tell someone that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a good job or that you know it was that

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<v Speaker 1>you appreciate them. So in the same way and in

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<v Speaker 1>the same vein, I think, you know, go up to

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<v Speaker 1>people you look up to and admire and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be nice and ask the questions because if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it for yourself, honestly, no one's out

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<v Speaker 1>there to do it for you totally.

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<v Speaker 2>So who have you done it to?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone? So many people I work with, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that with filmmaker friends of mine. I've told

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<v Speaker 1>Joe if we do a season two, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>like assist him, which I love to sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>writer writers' rooms. I just listen when writers are ideating.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be someone that you know you're in awe of. You

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<v Speaker 1>could it could be someone's work ethic that you admired,

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.040
<v Speaker 1>could be someone's mind that you admired, could be some

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<v Speaker 1>one who works with you and makes your life easier. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe I'm in this phase in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just enjoy human human connection. I'm really enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>human connection and just enjoying working and creating relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>the people that I'm working with. It was something that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't invest in very much when I was running

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<v Speaker 1>in my career. It was running at such a speed

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<v Speaker 1>I would like forget names. I would just come do

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<v Speaker 1>my job and run and do the next thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>in this new phase in my life, I like working

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<v Speaker 1>with people that I genuinely like that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go grab a meal after with that. You know that

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 1>our families can hang out and you know, go for

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<v Speaker 1>a movie together. Like it's investing in human beings and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really about in this phase of my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>think like I think my thirties or in my mid

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<v Speaker 1>thirties or early thirties is when I started creating deeper

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<v Speaker 1>meaning in relationships, friendships, relationships, my family. I tried not

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<v Speaker 1>to take people for granted, whether it was people doing

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs, whether it was people in my family. I

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<v Speaker 1>became aware of that and a lot more than that

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you. Yeah, in your thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do feel like. I feel like my twenties

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<v Speaker 2>were about figuring out, like who am I? What you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Who am I to the world? How does the world

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<v Speaker 2>perceive me? And my thirties were kind of about honing it,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had figured it out. Of course it's broke,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I figured like I am a political professional,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a lawyer, like I am a professional person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a person who takes close relationships seriously. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I started having kids, and that's when it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>got tested, and so I feel like it was testing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I feel like the minute I turned forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned forty this year. I feel like the minute

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<v Speaker 2>I turned forty, I almost felt free.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Like, I'm feeling the

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<v Speaker 1>most free I have felt in my life. I fail,

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<v Speaker 1>the more capable of dealing with life if it's thrown

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<v Speaker 1>at me. I feel a lot more at peace. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the need to choose joy. I don't care as

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<v Speaker 1>much about people that actually don't matter in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I care about my job. I care about how I

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<v Speaker 1>perform and how I deliver when I'm providing a service,

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<v Speaker 1>which my job is, whether that's on a movie with

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<v Speaker 1>a brand, you know, anything. I like to be. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to walk into my room with a professional ethic

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<v Speaker 1>and I want people to say she was great at

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<v Speaker 1>her job and you know, delivered as we expected. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really important to me. But besides that and my very

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<v Speaker 1>inner circle, which is a few friends, family, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a shit, you know, Like not that I would like.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to walk around like being you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about people. That's not what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking for validation. I'm looking for like really

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<v Speaker 1>tangible few things. I'm looking for joyful moments. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>for career achievements. I'm looking for time with my family

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<v Speaker 1>and my dogs and my friends. I am looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the next milestone I want to achieve. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>become really simple my priorities and personally, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see who I will be as a mom, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>does who I am like as that I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>a single, independent woman, and then I figured out what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like to be a patner, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really curious to meet that version of me. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure who you were before your kids and who you

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<v Speaker 1>are after was different, right, Yeah, And I've already felt

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm just so different than what I was before.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Brianka and her husband Nick welcomed their daughter last year

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<v Speaker 2>via surrogate. Her daughter spent her first hundred days in

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<v Speaker 2>the Nick you, but after coming home just before Mother's

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<v Speaker 2>Day last year, they become inseparable.

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<v Speaker 1>And just seeing her happy is the greatest joy in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Now she's like my honing signal. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I when she giggles and she's curious and she's

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<v Speaker 1>I love. She's such fun company. She's the funniest personality.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love traveling with her. Were everywhere together right

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<v Speaker 1>now she's not in school, so and my mom is

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<v Speaker 1>kind enough to kind of travel with me. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I've just changed. Right. Everything is about wrapping work

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<v Speaker 1>and going home and you know, making sure I make

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<v Speaker 1>bath time and story time, and it's like that's my

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<v Speaker 1>day revolved. Everything else gets revolved around her schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actors have notoriously long hours and rigid schedules. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like that's part of your approach now? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're thinking about this intersection of the personal and

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<v Speaker 2>the professional decision making, like is that part of your

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<v Speaker 2>approach with Roles now to say, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to make it home for bad time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if somebody wants to work with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've reached that point, then like they make

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<v Speaker 1>it work and I make it work. Like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter and just come back home from the NIKU

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<v Speaker 1>after one hundred days and I had to do some

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<v Speaker 1>additional photography in Atlanta for a doll and Amazon Studios

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<v Speaker 1>and Russo Brothers made it conducive where I could fly

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth from set every weekend to see her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to fly back Friday and go back Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband would cover the weekdays, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of make it work and she comes

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<v Speaker 1>to set. You know, it was like I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere where my baby, my dogs and my parents are

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that I really think about a lot. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>this is like a this is the thesis that I

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<v Speaker 2>needed for this show? Is that is this dark moment

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm in gonna propel me into something different and

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<v Speaker 2>better that I hadn't expected and I couldn't have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>had I not been in this moment. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>there is one moment, or maybe many moments when you

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, oh, I don't know how I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get myself out of this, and now in retrospect you

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<v Speaker 2>look back and you're like, yeah, that really set me

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<v Speaker 2>up for the success I have now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that there are so many moments in

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<v Speaker 1>my life where I've just been like it's like quicksand

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<v Speaker 1>there is no out. You're just going in deeper and

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<v Speaker 1>darker and deeper. Also, let's be honest. You know, sadness

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<v Speaker 1>or leaning into being morose is seductive. When you're sad,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of kind of it's easier to just like

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<v Speaker 1>lay in bed for twenty two hours. It takes work

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<v Speaker 1>to choose yourself. It takes work to talk to someone

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<v Speaker 1>for therapy, and you know, it's hard for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, and it was hard for me, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>have been phases lasting years for me where I just

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<v Speaker 1>could not shake off the feeling and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if how I would see the next day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to remind yourself how much joy and joy gives,

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<v Speaker 1>because we forget that. I think what has helped me

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<v Speaker 1>tangibly honestly is thinking about People say you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>happy thoughts, but it really is. Think about what are

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<v Speaker 1>the good things in your life? Is it that other

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else may not have an all that is a

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<v Speaker 1>privilege to you that you're so lucky to have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly you're just like I can I can get

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<v Speaker 1>up and have a coffee. Yeah, take that one step

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<v Speaker 1>and then you take another step.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think you'll pivot again?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think change is the most constant

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<v Speaker 1>thing in life. I think being prepared to pivot is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot easier than trying to pivot. When you're not

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for it, your life is going to throw a

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<v Speaker 1>lot at you. Just pivot. Yeah, don't have to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>Just do it. Figure out, whatever your version of it,

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<v Speaker 1>how you survive. We know how to pivot. That's literally

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing we do well as humans. Have to

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<v Speaker 1>have confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that so much, Franka, Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us. It's been such such a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved having you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love talking to you too, Love to your kids. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye everyone, Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Priyanka Chopra Jonas lives between life in New York and

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<v Speaker 2>filming locations with her husband Nick Jonas and their daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course her mom and their dogs go everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>they go. If you haven't seen Citadel, you absolutely need

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<v Speaker 2>to go watch it on Amazon. It's everything a spy

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<v Speaker 2>show should be. And don't miss her new movie Love Again,

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<v Speaker 2>out now in theaters featuring new music by Selene Dion.

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<v Speaker 2>To learn more about Prianca, you can join the other

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven million people who follow her on Instagram at

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<v Speaker 2>Prianka Chopra. Thanks for listening to this episode of she Pivots,

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<v Speaker 2>where I talk with women about how their experiences and

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<v Speaker 2>significant personal events led to their pivot and eventually their success.

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