1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: I feel the more capable of dealing with life if 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: it's thrown at me. I feel a lot more at peace. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: I feel the mean to choose joy. 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to She Pivots, the podcast where we talk with 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: women who dared to pivot out of one career and 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: into something new and explore how their personal lives impacted 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: these decisions. I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman. 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Hi. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Everyone, I apologize if my voice is a little scratchy. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: I hosted my two daughters third and fifth birthday party 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: over the weekend and I am left physically drained. But 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to bring you this week's episode with 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Prianca Chopra Jonas. She has been a dream guest of 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: mine since forever. Her pivot from Bollywood to Hollywood at 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: the height of her career has always intrigued me, but 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: in truth, I thought her other ventures, like in the 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: restaurant industry, hair care products, philanthropy, and investments might be 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: the focus of our discussion. Though she does own the 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: restaurant Sona in New York City and have her hair 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: care line called Anomaly, her pivot into Hollywood was ultimately 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: what shaped and defined the new trajectory of her career. 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: During our conversation, Prianca dives into what it means to 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: be a new mom and how her definition of success 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: has changed over the years. 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: Enjoy I'm Priyanka and I'm an actor by profession, but 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: I enjoy doing a lot of things at the same time. 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Which identity do you feel like you're the strongest in 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: at any moment. 29 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I know my craft as an actor 30 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: the most. But I think I'm a homebody, like I 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: love family, friends, being at home always since I was 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a kid, being that person like looking for adventure. But 33 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I think I identify most as an actor. 34 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: So if we go back to little pre growing up, 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: what did you think you wanted to be when you 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: grew up. 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: I had amazing examples with my parents, with my aunts 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: and uncles. Everyone was very academic, you know, doctors, engineers, 39 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: but everyone went to work. There was a consistency around 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: the fact that people could work and then you come 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: back home and everyone has dinner together. There was a 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: normality around it. So I just wanted to be something 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: different every year. Some days I was just like, I 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything when I grow up. I 45 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: want to be an adult because in your brain you 46 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: think that adults really can do nothing right. And then 47 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: there were days I wanted to be like an astrophysicist, 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: So I had my days. I think I hadn't finished 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: figuring out what and who I wanted to be when 50 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I fell upon my vocation, you know, yeah, and then 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: became my job. 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: Well, you moved back and forth or into the US 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: and kind of around the US a lot when you 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: were young. How do you think that that impacted your 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: perception of what it meant to be like grown up 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: or how you were going to be a grown up? 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Coming to the US when I was thirteen definitely defined 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: me in a big way because my mom went back 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: home and she went to India, and I was living 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: with my aunt and uncle, who were highly strict and 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: conservative because obviously I was somebody else's teenager that was 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,279 Speaker 1: living with them, and I wasn't an easy kid. I 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: didn't make it very easy on them. But I think 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I already thought I was an adult because now I 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: was living without my parents, and I had moved continents, 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: and I thought that I had done so much that 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: other kids my age hadn't done. So I used to 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: write letters to my friends from America and being like, oh, yeah, 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, make up stuff, like I went to the 71 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: mall and it was just so fun. I really thought 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I was a grown up for my whole teenage years. 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Was it sort of a shock to move back to 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: India with your parents and you're like, oh, yeah, my 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: parents again. 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a shock because mine was really unique 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: as a story because I lived with my aunt and uncle, 78 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: my mom's sister, and my cousins in you know, Boston, 79 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: New York. I was for like a good three four years, 80 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: so I was like twelve thirteen, and then I was sixteen, 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: and then suddenly I go back to a small town 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: in India, and my parents were so happy that I 83 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: was back. But I went like, you know, a flat 84 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: chested twelve year old, and I came back home American 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: hormones and all like a curvy sixteen year old. And 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: my dad, I think was intimidated by me. I think 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: he was just like, I don't know what to do 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: with this, you know, girl child woman that I had 89 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: in my home. So he had to really grapple with that. 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: And I, you know, had come back from this. I 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: was very confident. I liked attention I loved boys. At 92 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: this time, I had just figure out that I was 93 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: a girl and had crushes, and so suddenly I felt 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: really grown up compared to the other sixteen year olds 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: in Burreley, which is a small town in India, where 96 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: they used to listen to my stories that like as 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: if there were adventures from across the like almost like 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: a pirate. I felt like I could I could tell 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: anyone any story and there would be like an arrested 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: audience listening to me. It was really was. It was fun. 101 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: Sounds actually really fun. So did you feel like going 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: into pageants felt like kind of natural then, because it 103 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: was around that time that you started right, You're so. 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: Right, I think in my vain teenage mind, you know. 105 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: And I was really popular in my small town because 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: of the fact that I'd come back from the States, 107 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and I used to behave like I was twenty two 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: even though I was sixteen with everyone, you know, the 109 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: younger girls in my school Army school would take autographs 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: from me and get me to sign their books and stuff. 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: And I was really feeling myself. Honestly, you know, I'm 112 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: more independent than any of these roles. They don't know 113 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: what it is to be a woman, and I take 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: these like soft focused small shots. So when I got 115 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: this phone call from Miss India, can you imagine my 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: like narcissistic self at sixteen, was like, oh my gosh, 117 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: they've probably heard about me. 118 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: In fact, it was actually her younger brother who submitted 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: her for the Miss India pageant after a sibling fight 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: over who would get the bedroom. He checked with their 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: mom that Brianca would have to move away if accepted, 122 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: and after confirming she would be out of the room, 123 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: he sent in an application. Okay, so you see this 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: ad in this matter. 125 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: Ten year old Sid sees this ad and he tells 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: my mom she'll have to move to Mumbai, right if 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: she wins this thing. Aca I didn't send my pictures 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: and stuff in for the pageant, and my mom and 129 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: my brother sentlers. My mother was sen years old. They 130 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: sent those pictures in from Miss India. Miss Indians was 131 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: very popular in India at that time. And you know 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: I've got a phone call for semi finals Miss India. 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: I think she might be the popular either India or 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: tasty Indian Missus. Of course. Polanka Chapra, very beautiful. 135 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: Lighty, eighteen years old, and she's a woman that loves sunts, 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: anouncing and no Indian fight. 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: And go school. Our next summer finalists, Miss India Popular. 138 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, this pred to kick off the new millennium. Prianca 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: won Miss World in two thousand. The win launched her 140 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: into the spotlight and that confidence she had as a 141 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: teenager began to pay off. But I mean, you had 142 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: such success at it so quickly. Did it feel like 143 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: confirmation for you? Or did it feel scary a. 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Little bit of bows? I realized like my nature. And 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: I was talking about this to my mom yesterday, So 146 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: it's really interesting that you're asking me that today. I 147 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: believe it. I was talking to her about consistent traits 148 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: that I've had since I was My mom's on tour 149 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: with me, so because she's with the baby when I 150 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: do press. My husband's on tour as well. So we 151 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: were talking last night about consistent things that I do, 152 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: which I have done since I was young. So you know, 153 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: like when I was three, I had this toy which 154 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you hit it, it comes back. In India, 155 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: it was called to hit Me, So you hit it 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: and it just rolls back at you, and you hit 157 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: it and means to roll back at you, and somebody 158 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: gave it to me. My mom said, when I was 159 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: really like two or three, I hit it really hard 160 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: and it came back and smacked me, and I fell down, 161 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: and I got really scared of it. But the choice 162 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I made when I was scared was I went back 163 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and hit it and took the air out of it, 164 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: so then it could never hit me back, versus being 165 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: afraid of it for the rest of my life. So 166 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm not want to run from a fight, like I'm 167 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: not one to run from a challenge or something that 168 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: scares me. And I think that's what happened at seventeen, 169 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Like I didn't know the terrain I was in. I'd 170 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: never modeled before. I didn't have the experience of the 171 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: movie industry or the glamour industry or entertainment at all. 172 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm thrown into this whole new world. My parents didn't 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: know it. They were both academic in a small town, 174 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: middle class family and here we are in big bad Mumbai, 175 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: and you know, there's It was just a whole change. 176 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: And I think the same circumstances, it was like, Okay, 177 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: let me figure out how to kill it, Like, how 178 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: am I going to be the one that wins this. 179 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: How am I going to be the one that fines 180 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: my nature's solution? Oriented I'm very like I can figure 181 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: out the steps to get towards my goal. At that time, 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: it was just instinctual, and my instinct just told me, 183 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: I've got to learn, I've got to observe, I've got 184 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: to see where I am and survive and in I 185 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: think that discipline. My career has always been that. I 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: never went to acting school. I learned on the job. 187 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: I was on movies. I observed my pole stars, my directors. 188 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: I figured out I learned the technical side of cinema 189 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: and filmmaking because I didn't know anything, so I kind 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: of had to figure it out. 191 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: Brand new to the industry, she had to either sink 192 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: or swim, So she dove in head first, learning everything 193 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: and everyone she could in the entertainment industry in India. 194 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had multiple situations in my life where just 195 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: you've got to just pivot and figure it out. And 196 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: this first case that I'm talking about was being thrown 197 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: into the deep end of pageants and I've never done that. 198 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: I've never modeled. I didn't know what it was like 199 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: to wear a gown or a sorry. I remember one 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: of the supermodels of the time, her name was Madelsafre. 201 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: She had told me, you know, you have to and walk. 202 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: Another one was Nionica at that time, Indian supermodel. You 203 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: have to kick the heel for the inside of a 204 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: gown or a starry or if anything is floor length, 205 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: you kick the inside of it. So by the time 206 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: it comes back, your second step is taken. You'll never 207 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: trip and you look like a model. And so those 208 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: little like hips that I observed that I ask and 209 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: befriended people, and you know that just kind of you 210 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: have to pivot and you have to survive human beings 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: inherently with survivors, and we have it inside of us. 212 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: We just have to have confidence and treat ourselves with 213 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: the faith that you can handle it. I think it 214 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: is a very scary thing to be able to pivot 215 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: into something that you don't know and that you're not 216 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: familiar with, that you don't have an understanding of. I 217 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: made a career out of it, so I used to 218 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: beat myself up about it all the time when I 219 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: had failures or if I didn't know something, you know, 220 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: I compared myself to people who had way more experience 221 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: than me. I wanted to run before I could walk, 222 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: and you can't do that. You kind of when you pivot. 223 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: You can't run when you pivot. You have to just 224 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: take a breath, take a second, take baby steps, take 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: one step at a time, find your balance and then run. 226 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: She took off running. She made her on screen debut 227 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 2: in two thousand and two and Bollywood debut in two 228 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: thousand and three. From then on, she did multiple movies 229 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: a year, becoming one of the most famous Bollywood actresses. 230 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: I'm so curious to know how your idea of success evolved. Like, 231 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, when you were starting out in Bollywood, I 232 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: mean you did like four to five movies a year. 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: It was you did crazy volume of movies, Like was it? 234 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I was greedy. I didn't want anyone else to get them. 235 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: That's true, man, Like you know, you're the flavor of 236 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: a season, and if you're the season's happening, you kind 237 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: of like got a cash in on it. So at 238 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: the beginning, success to me was having a next job, Like, 239 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have my next shop. Okay, I 240 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: can breathe for another three months. Now, where am I 241 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: going to go? To next and like, who am I meeting? 242 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Who's interested in me? What's my how do I keep 243 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: myself relevant? And that was success to me. And then 244 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: like a couple of years into being good at my 245 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: job now and people casting me in really interesting, complex roles, 246 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: winning accolades, I kind of found stability a little bit 247 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: and confidence in the fact that yeah I could. I 248 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: was going to keep getting work because you know, people 249 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: do like watching me in movies and the movies would 250 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: do well. And then I decided to move to America 251 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: started all over again. 252 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: It was a big risk. A few actors had moved 253 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: from Bollywood to Hollywood at the time, and all of 254 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: her relationships were in India, so pivoting to Hollywood meant 255 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: starting from scratch. But after a few years of getting 256 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: passed up for the dynamic roles she was looking for, 257 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: it was time to move on. She decided to follow 258 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: opportunity and when into the music industry as her path 259 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: to break into the American market. 260 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: And that was early thirties. I was like, oh gosh, now, 261 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: what has success to me? I wanted to be able 262 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: to not it was a big risk. You know, I 263 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: had a relatively relevant career in India and I was 264 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: compelled to pivot and come to the States. And I 265 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: was doing music at that time, but again something I 266 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: had never done before. So I was like, okay, thrown 267 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: into the deep end, working with like well, I am Pharrell, 268 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: read one these amazing producers. I was like, I just 269 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: got to figure it out. So I took classes, I learned, 270 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: and I just when the music came out, I felt 271 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: a little manufactured, but I very quickly was like, I 272 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: think I should go back to my day job, something 273 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: that I have a little bit more control about and 274 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: I know. And I started seeking work in America as 275 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: an actor. So I'm seeking work in America. People really 276 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: don't know me, and there was a stereotype around Bollywood 277 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: actors and kind of felt like, will she be able 278 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: to do mainstream work. I played so many different kinds 279 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: of roles, worked in many many different genres, worked with 280 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: incredible filmmakers. I want to be able to do that here. 281 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: I want to be able to work in international cinema. 282 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I want to be able to work in different languages 283 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: in different industries, and I want to push myself. That 284 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of took a little bit of breaking down ceilings 285 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: doing auditions, pivoting from what people thought I was capable of. 286 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: And I think then success was to get a job 287 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: where you know, I was a lead. 288 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: So like everyone else, she auditioned a change from roles 289 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: she had just been offered from the time she had 290 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: won Miss World. She eventually landed the lead role in 291 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: a primetime TV show, ABC's new thriller drama Quantico. 292 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: My name is Alex Parrish. Protecting our country had always 293 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: been my dream. I want to go. They say it's 294 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the toughest boot camp, grad school all rolled into one. 295 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: Now, let's see if you can do that. 296 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: And So success and my relationship with success and what 297 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: it means has been different at different times, as it 298 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: is with everyone as your life and career changes. I 299 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: also do enjoy evolving as a human being and as 300 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: an artist, and I want to find like what the 301 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: next step is, what the next goal is. So I 302 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: just turned forty that last year as well, and I 303 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: feel like in this new decade of my life, I 304 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of want to push myself as an artist and 305 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: see in this part of the world in America be 306 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: able to work with the diversity of characters that I 307 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed in my work in Bollywood. 308 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: Brianca has an impressive roster of roles in movies in 309 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: Bollywood and has now established herself as a force with 310 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: her work in Hollywood. Just this spring, she has released 311 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: two major productions, her show Citadel on Amazon Prime and 312 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: her movie Love Again, which is out in theaters now. 313 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: To have to films slash shows coming out that are 314 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: so different when you play such different characters, what was 315 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: that like for you personally? Did they film in blocks 316 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: that you could just finish one and go to the next, 317 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: or did you have to go back and forth between 318 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: I am. 319 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: So lucky that this was filmed in blocks. Both of 320 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: them were. I shot Love Again twenty twenty like November, 321 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: November and December. We finished in two months, and then 322 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: January twenty twenty one I started Citadel and we finished 323 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: next year. I think June was a year and a 324 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: half of filming. 325 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: So your new show Citadel, which is out on Amazon 326 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: right now, is a type of show that has never 327 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: been done before, right, Yeah. 328 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: There's never been anything like this, not on film or 329 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: on TV. Where multiple installments around the world are being 330 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: created by local filmmakers, writers and top talent of industries. 331 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: The biggest industries in the world which are like India, 332 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: Italy and Hollywood right, So to have filmmakers and writers 333 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: and talent from all three of them and storytelling that 334 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: are interconnected is just a mammoth amazing ambition and is 335 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: so I think cool too, and has such amazing foresight. 336 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: If you think about where the global industry is actually 337 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: heading to. With streamers, people are not consuming entertainment just 338 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: made in their own countries or their own language anymore. 339 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: As someone who worked in Hindi language entertainment, to be 340 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: able to see viewers consuming all kinds of languages. It's 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: all about storytelling and the authenticity of the characters, and 342 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: it's so joyous to me. So I think the foresight 343 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: of Citadel is very cool and it's foreshadowing towards how 344 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: storytelling will be. 345 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: Do you see that as potentially your next I don't 346 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: want to call it pivot, but like bridging between the 347 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: Bollywood and Hollywood world, like to be in both versions. 348 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Definitely, Definitely, that's like something that is I've always wanted 349 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: to do it, But I intend to do another Indian 350 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: movie next year with actually two of my active friends. 351 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: One is called Aliabat and another one's called Kacriina CAF. 352 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: They're amazing actresses and really successful superstars in India. So 353 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: the three of us decided we're going to do a 354 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: road trip movie together. So hopefully we do that next year. 355 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: But yes, the idea is there are very few actors 356 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: that have enjoyed the ability to work seamlessly between two 357 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: industries or two countries. You know, sama Hia did it 358 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: for a bit, Penelope Cruise has done it. The Filler 359 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: ended it with Italian movies. A Shwar I did it 360 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: with Indian movies back in the day. I don't take 361 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: that opportunity for granted. I want to definitely be able 362 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: to as long as people enjoy watching me. I want 363 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: to be able to work in both industries as much 364 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: as I can. 365 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So I just have to also ask you about 366 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: the fact that you did a lot of your own 367 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: stunts for Nadia, right. 368 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: So I come from the background of action movies. I 369 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: have done a few in my bodywould work as well. 370 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: And like this is fifteen years ago or so. When 371 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: I was first doing little action in my movies, like 372 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: I didn't even have like proper body double. I used 373 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: to have like a little man in a wig that 374 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: was dressed in my clothes with shaved arms and legs. 375 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: Who would do the stunts, you know, and that's evolved 376 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: so much in cinema. So I really learned how to 377 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: horne my craft, trust my body, do my stunts safely 378 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: because I had to do a lot of it myself. 379 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: And so, you know, the directors really wanted the actors' 380 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: faces as much as we could in the stunt scenes 381 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: because our characters are not superheroes. They're real human beings. 382 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: They bleed, they get hurt, they die, so they wanted 383 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: the gravity of that of the viewer to see that. 384 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: So I'm not someone who does it because I get 385 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: a kick out or a thrill out of it. 386 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: I would love to wrap early and go home, but 387 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: it required a lot of training, a year and a 388 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: half of working and with the stunt team and consistently 389 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: preparing your body was like an athlete, consistently for a 390 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: year and a half preparing your body for you know, 391 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: being battered and thrown around and do that stuff. 392 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how excited it was the day wrapped. 393 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: I ate so much for the next. 394 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: Two months as you're talking and I'm seeing your tattoo. 395 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm wondering how significant are your tattoos. 396 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: All my tattoos are very special, and all of them 397 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: have a meaning. I have my dog's paws on my ankle, 398 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: a little one, a medium one, or a large one. 399 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: I have a German shepherd, a husky and a chuaa. 400 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: So then I have this is my dad's handwriting, says 401 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: Daddy's little girl. He's on me a little girl. And 402 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I got this my first tattoo a year before he passed. 403 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: And this is it's a chat. I don't know if 404 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: you can see it, but it's a box and a 405 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: check on this side, which my husband has on his 406 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: arms as well, just because you know, I checked all 407 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: his boxes. That's how he proposed. Oh my god, he 408 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: said that. So that became our thing. So we commemorated 409 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: it by getting cattooes together. That's great. And then I 410 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: have the world on my arm because I feel like 411 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: I belonged to the world. I love traveling, you know, 412 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: travel has been my best teacher. And when I put 413 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: my arm down in india's right next to my heart. 414 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's amazing. So who do you feel 415 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: like is your I don't know your mentors, your support network. 416 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: Like as you go through these pivots, now, have you 417 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: started to see trends? 418 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? I am so grateful for my mom and my nanny. 419 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: Like every single day, I you know, before I leave 420 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: for work, I say thank you so much because you're here. 421 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: I am able to go and do my work without 422 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: thinking about it. I just think that people we get 423 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: so caught up nowadays. It's so much easier for us 424 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: to write on social media than it is to actually 425 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: have him an interaction and tell someone that they're doing 426 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: a good job or that you know it was that 427 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: you appreciate them. So in the same way and in 428 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: the same vein, I think, you know, go up to 429 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: people you look up to and admire and and you know, 430 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: be nice and ask the questions because if you're not 431 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: going to do it for yourself, honestly, no one's out 432 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: there to do it for you totally. 433 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: So who have you done it to? 434 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Everyone? So many people I work with, I mean, and 435 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: I've done that with filmmaker friends of mine. I've told 436 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Joe if we do a season two, I'd love to 437 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: like assist him, which I love to sit down and 438 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: writer writers' rooms. I just listen when writers are ideating. 439 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to 440 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: be someone that you know you're in awe of. You 441 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: could it could be someone's work ethic that you admired, 442 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: could be someone's mind that you admired, could be some 443 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: one who works with you and makes your life easier. Like, 444 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm in this phase in my life, 445 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: but I just enjoy human human connection. I'm really enjoying 446 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: human connection and just enjoying working and creating relationships with 447 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: the people that I'm working with. It was something that 448 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: I didn't invest in very much when I was running 449 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: in my career. It was running at such a speed 450 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: I would like forget names. I would just come do 451 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: my job and run and do the next thing. But 452 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: in this new phase in my life, I like working 453 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: with people that I genuinely like that I want to 454 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: go grab a meal after with that. You know that 455 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: our families can hang out and you know, go for 456 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: a movie together. Like it's investing in human beings and 457 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm really about in this phase of my life. I 458 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: think like I think my thirties or in my mid 459 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: thirties or early thirties is when I started creating deeper 460 00:24:54,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: meaning in relationships, friendships, relationships, my family. I tried not 461 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: to take people for granted, whether it was people doing 462 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: their jobs, whether it was people in my family. I 463 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: became aware of that and a lot more than that 464 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: happened to you. Yeah, in your thirties. 465 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like. I feel like my twenties 466 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: were about figuring out, like who am I? What you know? 467 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: Who am I to the world? How does the world 468 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: perceive me? And my thirties were kind of about honing it, 469 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: like I had figured it out. Of course it's broke, 470 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: but you know, I figured like I am a political professional, 471 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: I am a lawyer, like I am a professional person. 472 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: I'm a person who takes close relationships seriously. And then 473 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: I started having kids, and that's when it kind of 474 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: got tested, and so I feel like it was testing it. 475 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: And then I feel like the minute I turned forty. 476 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: I turned forty this year. I feel like the minute 477 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: I turned forty, I almost felt free. 478 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Like, I'm feeling the 479 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: most free I have felt in my life. I fail, 480 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: the more capable of dealing with life if it's thrown 481 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: at me. I feel a lot more at peace. I 482 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: feel the need to choose joy. I don't care as 483 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: much about people that actually don't matter in my life. 484 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: I care about my job. I care about how I 485 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: perform and how I deliver when I'm providing a service, 486 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: which my job is, whether that's on a movie with 487 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: a brand, you know, anything. I like to be. I 488 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: want to walk into my room with a professional ethic 489 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: and I want people to say she was great at 490 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: her job and you know, delivered as we expected. That's 491 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: really important to me. But besides that and my very 492 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: inner circle, which is a few friends, family, I don't 493 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: give a shit, you know, Like not that I would like. 494 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: I want to walk around like being you know, I 495 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: don't care about people. That's not what I mean. Like, 496 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm not looking for validation. I'm looking for like really 497 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: tangible few things. I'm looking for joyful moments. I'm looking 498 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: for career achievements. I'm looking for time with my family 499 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: and my dogs and my friends. I am looking for 500 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: the next milestone I want to achieve. Like it's just 501 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: become really simple my priorities and personally, I want to 502 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: see who I will be as a mom, Like what 503 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: does who I am like as that I've always been 504 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: a single, independent woman, and then I figured out what 505 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: it was like to be a patner, and so I'm 506 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: really curious to meet that version of me. I'm pretty 507 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: sure who you were before your kids and who you 508 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: are after was different, right, Yeah, And I've already felt 509 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: that I'm just so different than what I was before. 510 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: My daughter. 511 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: Brianka and her husband Nick welcomed their daughter last year 512 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: via surrogate. Her daughter spent her first hundred days in 513 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: the Nick you, but after coming home just before Mother's 514 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: Day last year, they become inseparable. 515 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: And just seeing her happy is the greatest joy in 516 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: my life. Now she's like my honing signal. Now it's 517 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: like I when she giggles and she's curious and she's 518 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: I love. She's such fun company. She's the funniest personality. 519 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: Like I love traveling with her. Were everywhere together right 520 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: now she's not in school, so and my mom is 521 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: kind enough to kind of travel with me. I feel 522 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: like I've just changed. Right. Everything is about wrapping work 523 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: and going home and you know, making sure I make 524 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: bath time and story time, and it's like that's my 525 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: day revolved. Everything else gets revolved around her schedule. 526 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, actors have notoriously long hours and rigid schedules. Do 527 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: you feel like that's part of your approach now? You know, 528 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: if we're thinking about this intersection of the personal and 529 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 2: the professional decision making, like is that part of your 530 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: approach with Roles now to say, you know, I have 531 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: to be able to make it home for bad time. 532 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: You know, if somebody wants to work with you, and 533 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: I think I've reached that point, then like they make 534 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: it work and I make it work. Like I remember 535 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: my daughter and just come back home from the NIKU 536 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: after one hundred days and I had to do some 537 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: additional photography in Atlanta for a doll and Amazon Studios 538 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: and Russo Brothers made it conducive where I could fly 539 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: back and forth from set every weekend to see her. 540 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: And I used to fly back Friday and go back Monday, 541 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: and my husband would cover the weekdays, and you know, 542 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: you just kind of make it work and she comes 543 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: to set. You know, it was like I don't go 544 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: anywhere where my baby, my dogs and my parents are 545 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: not allowed. 546 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: Something that I really think about a lot. It's like 547 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: this is like a this is the thesis that I 548 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: needed for this show? Is that is this dark moment 549 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: that I'm in gonna propel me into something different and 550 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: better that I hadn't expected and I couldn't have gotten 551 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: had I not been in this moment. Do you think 552 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: there is one moment, or maybe many moments when you 553 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: felt like, oh, I don't know how I'm going to 554 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 2: get myself out of this, and now in retrospect you 555 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: look back and you're like, yeah, that really set me 556 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: up for the success I have now. 557 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there are so many moments in 558 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: my life where I've just been like it's like quicksand 559 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: there is no out. You're just going in deeper and 560 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: darker and deeper. Also, let's be honest. You know, sadness 561 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: or leaning into being morose is seductive. When you're sad, 562 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: you kind of kind of it's easier to just like 563 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: lay in bed for twenty two hours. It takes work 564 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: to choose yourself. It takes work to talk to someone 565 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: for therapy, and you know, it's hard for a lot 566 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: of people, and it was hard for me, Like there 567 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: have been phases lasting years for me where I just 568 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: could not shake off the feeling and I didn't know 569 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: if how I would see the next day. I think 570 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: you have to remind yourself how much joy and joy gives, 571 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: because we forget that. I think what has helped me 572 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: tangibly honestly is thinking about People say you don't think 573 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: happy thoughts, but it really is. Think about what are 574 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: the good things in your life? Is it that other 575 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: somebody else may not have an all that is a 576 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: privilege to you that you're so lucky to have. Yeah, 577 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: and suddenly you're just like I can I can get 578 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: up and have a coffee. Yeah, take that one step 579 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: and then you take another step. 580 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: Do you think you'll pivot again? 581 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: I think so. I think change is the most constant 582 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: thing in life. I think being prepared to pivot is 583 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot easier than trying to pivot. When you're not 584 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: prepared for it, your life is going to throw a 585 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: lot at you. Just pivot. Yeah, don't have to explain, 586 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Just do it. Figure out, whatever your version of it, 587 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: how you survive. We know how to pivot. That's literally 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: the one thing we do well as humans. Have to 589 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: have confidence. 590 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: I love that so much, Franka, Thank you so much 591 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: for joining us. It's been such such a great conversation. 592 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: I really loved having you. 593 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: I love talking to you too, Love to your kids. Okay, 594 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: bye bye everyone, Bye. 595 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Priyanka Chopra Jonas lives between life in New York and 596 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: filming locations with her husband Nick Jonas and their daughter, 597 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: and of course her mom and their dogs go everywhere 598 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: they go. If you haven't seen Citadel, you absolutely need 599 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: to go watch it on Amazon. It's everything a spy 600 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: show should be. 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