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Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: Was there?

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Speaker 5: Zeke?

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Speaker 4: Was there wearing number fifteen?

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Speaker 6: You got a new guard? Yeah, seeing the size of him,

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Speaker 6: he's a huge Zeke.

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Speaker 4: From what I understand, the implosion of the Jets has begun.

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Speaker 6: This is one of those I have my hand up

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even know anything about that.

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Speaker 6: Like if I'm supposed to kill the Jets, I want

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Speaker 6: to know I'm supposed to kill the Jets. I want

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Speaker 6: to go all Fred.

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Speaker 4: They hate them, and the writers are like, you know,

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Speaker 4: the one hundred million people that follow the NFL, you

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Speaker 4: don't know history of the game, but we do.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna put in Buddy Parker please, I know

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Speaker 6: you know everybody clutches their pearls when pro football players

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Speaker 6: proud against each other and there's a fight. I'm still

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Speaker 6: stuck on Paul saying clutches pearls.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but every time I hear that,

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Speaker 6: I'm an old soul. I didn't have anything modern to

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Speaker 6: give you. Matt. Were you actually in your studio producing

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Speaker 6: this as I was going on? And you stayed in

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Speaker 6: there while that talk was going on. I can't believe

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Speaker 6: you allowed the Marvel and Star Wars talk like, gave

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Speaker 1: It was the comparing Ravioli to Pop Tark.

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Speaker 6: That's just dumb.

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Speaker 4: So you heard the first edition of Latista's Hot Takes

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Speaker 4: and they talked about movies. I thought they were going

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Speaker 4: to talk about Patriots. But anyway, this is Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: All right, good morning and hello from what what voice

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Speaker 1: do I hear now?

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Speaker 6: As the host?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well it's yes, that's right, it's Deuce on the mic

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Speaker 1: where I'm just open enough. Though, don't worry, Fred will

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Speaker 1: be here. So for all those people who are crying

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Speaker 1: today Fred will be in shortly. It's Deuce, It's Perillo,

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Speaker 1: it's Evan and uh.

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Speaker 6: We are here.

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Speaker 1: We didn't expect to be here. We thought a couple

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Speaker 1: alast the Patriots have canceled joint practices. They will be

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Speaker 1: practicing here at Chillette Stadium today and tomorrow and we'll

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Speaker 1: we've moved it up a little early. So guys, we

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Speaker 1: good news. Isaiah Boulden released from the hospital. The team

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Speaker 6: I heard it was supposed to be really hot too.

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Speaker 6: For you guys, you may have may have dodged a bullet.

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Speaker 1: Looks like about one hundred degrees. So so a couple

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Speaker 1: Thank god?

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Speaker 6: Pretty nice?

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Speaker 4: Sorry about that?

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, bro, you guys we're organized. Mine's dirty though

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Speaker 4: Where the end was his Atlantic Hockey shirt from nineteen

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Speaker 1: Actually, Fred, the Atlantic Hockey League didn't exist in Thank

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Speaker 6: My god, you get your fact straight when you come

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Speaker 4: Locker, right, all right, So what are we talking about?

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Speaker 4: No, but I agree with you guys. And I was

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Speaker 1: And win, you right, right, Yeah, I mean they'll have

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Speaker 6: I stay away, I stay away from the all twenty two.

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Speaker 6: It's not my stay. I stay in my lane. But

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Speaker 6: this play looks like he got Max smoked on the plate.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't wasn't a pass block.

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Speaker 8: So they only had uh I think it was seven

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Speaker 8: He got pressure like just five seconds ago. Yeah, so

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Speaker 8: I actually thought the backup offensive line did better than

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Speaker 6: Impressed with Bill Murray, like I thought he was okay,

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Speaker 6: I didn't know, you know, specifically, but I would agree

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Now there was some bad runs too, but I

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Speaker 1: Well, let them throw it up to Bourne when that

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's been an issue. That's been an issue for

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Speaker 8: Mafia's stunts up front, and that's foot speed and awareness

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Speaker 8: been okay. I'm not going to like go crazy, but

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, getting off the line Paul's favorite subject.

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Speaker 4: But you know, in general, the the roster projection, I

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Speaker 4: he's going to make other than released or practice squad.

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Speaker 8: They're not cutting the second.

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Speaker 6: They're not going to cut him, and that would be released.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then you're not going to release them. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 4: but I mean, don't we have to be worried about him?

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe he gets the Foxborough flu, got hurt.

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Speaker 6: Like Wednesday, didn't he Thursday? On the biggest play of

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Speaker 1: We'll see today if he's out there.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that you sometimes when you have that

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Speaker 4: Speaking from from It's just it's just like, okay, do

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Speaker 8: Why not both?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say both.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not cutting, Okay, So I want to know

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, if I if I think that Thornton is

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Speaker 6: I mean he's not getting I'm not cutting.

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Speaker 1: Him, Okay, I'm with Evan. Six.

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Speaker 6: I mean they've kept six many many So you.

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Speaker 4: Got Born, Parker and Shuster are locks, right, yeah, then

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Speaker 4: I think he's in Thornton and Thornton's a lot. That's

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Speaker 6: Doing enough now.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think going into the game yesterday I was,

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Speaker 4: Was, So you're going to carry six wide receivers, which

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Speaker 4: they've done many times, and then how many tight ends?

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Speaker 4: Two? Hunter? And Kasiki? What's his health like?

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Speaker 8: Be all right?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 6: If he has to start on IR, then maybe you

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Speaker 1: I think I saw enough out of Circle, not to

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Speaker 1: They need that that third tight end body. So even

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think these guys are right. I have

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Speaker 6: no problem with six wide receivers. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: Booty has done enough to be there, but he's definitely

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So don't you want sending players? Yeah, sure, you try

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Speaker 1: The receiver position where you know you've been searching forever

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Speaker 6: And I have no idea what the actual injury is

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Speaker 6: then you buy yourself three weeks, you know, you open

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 8: But he's making Yeah, he's not going to get cut. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I did my little roster projection of my own, haven't

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Speaker 8: But I have fifty four guys on the team right now,

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Speaker 6: Do somebody think I have like forty six, so fifty one, so.

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Speaker 8: I got fifty four, And I think that what it

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Speaker 6: Sam Roberts Carl Davis. I know they're kind of different players,

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Speaker 8: Which one would I take? Or which one do I

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Speaker 6: Which one would you take?

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Speaker 6: Who do you think is more valuable?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with I'm with Evan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just don't think they have a

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Speaker 6: They don't like him, they don't That's great. Maybe the

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Speaker 6: down for us, like like like Saturday night, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're talking about like a fourth defensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: You know, like it's Paul's roster projection is based on

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no no. What I'm saying is like, all right,

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Speaker 6: The game, right, Patriots run defense was really not good.

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Speaker 6: You had said both sides, line both sides. I totally

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Speaker 6: Sure Bentley, Yeah, Bentley being one of them. I have

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Speaker 1: I hope it's who I think it is, because I

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Speaker 8: So are you saying not are you saying not involved

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Speaker 6: No, like Jwan Bentley didn't play, He's one of your

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Speaker 8: Because I also think there were guys that weren't.

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Speaker 6: Interested, wasn't interested in playing. You got spun around on

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Speaker 6: I still think they'll have trouble with Jalen Hurt's opening day,

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Speaker 6: but you know, I just don't see them lining up

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Speaker 6: Then you no, no, okay, good, no good, Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: That was funny because I saw Teddy Johnson doing a

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Speaker 1: talking with Ted right now, because like, hey, Ted two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four preseason Game two. We're all coming after

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Speaker 1: your run defense. What would your response be as a

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Speaker 6: Like, you know, like, and I'm not telling you the

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Speaker 6: I'm not telling you that. What you saw wasn't They

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Speaker 6: I've seen those on Twitter. They weren't interested in trying.

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Speaker 6: They were trying different things. No, no, no, no, the other

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Speaker 8: Well they might have not been interested in trying like that,

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Speaker 6: But they wanted to Like people were saying they wanted

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Speaker 6: them to run. They were trying things. No, no, Davon

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Speaker 6: Godshaw was getting spun like a top on multiple occasions. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm very interested to see because I got someone

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Speaker 1: I pulled in Evan. I went, I watched the film,

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Speaker 8: I do too, and we might be on the same patrio.

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Speaker 6: What let's all say it.

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Speaker 8: It was ready mac Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Wilson.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a surprise. I think he's a surprise.

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Speaker 4: I think they were.

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Speaker 6: I think that, you know, in terms of quote unquote

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll look good for him at all.

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Speaker 1: Like I just he's just he's not a plus player,

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Speaker 1: Like he can't Like he has speed, but he doesn't

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Speaker 6: That is that a thing? I don't even know. I

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Speaker 8: I can't believe me. That was like lockstep every year.

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Speaker 1: I got him in my crosshairs. As I was watching it,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, geez.

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Speaker 6: And we have spoken about this.

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Speaker 1: He is the most ineffective guy. And you know he's

444
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Speaker 1: fast and we all like that, but it doesn't matter

445
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Speaker 1: like he just like I saw him like just kind

446
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Speaker 1: of like standing there trying to push against the guy,

447
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Speaker 1: and he had like no juice at all. I'm totally

448
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Speaker 1: with you, guys, I was. I was like, and that's

449
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Speaker 1: the Marty mop who think that's the mop who thing

450
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Speaker 1: right there?

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Speaker 6: Get him in that spot. Very passive, Very rare that

452
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Speaker 6: you get that kind of lockstep agreement.

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Speaker 8: Poor Angles to the ball had no interest in coming down,

454
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Speaker 8: he'll let the line of scrimmage at all and then

455
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Speaker 8: then their system Like that's why I don't really hold

456
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Speaker 8: too much against the the lineman, because if the linebackers

457
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Speaker 8: aren't getting the combination blocks off of the lineman, then

458
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Speaker 8: like how many times do you want Davon Godshaw to

459
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Speaker 8: take on two guys? Like you can't do that all

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Speaker 8: game long. And that's what Bentley does. Bentley will come

461
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Speaker 8: down at the guard and he'll occupy the guard and

462
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Speaker 8: let Godshaw go one on one. And mac Wilson was

463
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Speaker 8: trying to I think he was trying to play over

464
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Speaker 8: the top and just kind of read out the running back,

465
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Speaker 8: but he missed a couple of different you know, reads

466
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Speaker 8: or angles to the football and had no juice whatsoever

467
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Speaker 8: in terms of play strain.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was thinking. I was trying to

469
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Speaker 1: think of a like witty pun about like no juice,

470
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Speaker 1: Like He's something that I couldn't I didn't come up with, obviously,

471
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Speaker 1: but that's exactly the phrase again. I mean, then after

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Speaker 1: I watch it, I'm like, what were his stats? Like,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm like, did he make a single play?

474
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Speaker 1: Like I think he had him down for like four tackles,

475
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Speaker 1: which I still found surprising.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't have the stats, but I'm just

477
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Speaker 6: curious to see because I I did go back and

478
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Speaker 6: I and I remembered, like, you know, it's weird that

479
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Speaker 6: you know there's no Bentley out there, you know, you know,

480
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Speaker 6: and like they're just lining up and running it and

481
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Speaker 6: there's no Bentley out there. So obviously that was something

482
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Speaker 6: they wanted to see. And I just don't think that

483
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Speaker 6: he was very effective in his place. And I can't,

484
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Speaker 6: I can why can't I not even find how many

485
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Speaker 6: snaps he played?

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Speaker 1: He played it, he should be at the top.

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Speaker 8: He played a bunch, Yeah he was, He was not very.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty yeah, thirty four snaps fifty that's a lot

489
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Speaker 6: of snaps for a guy that you think is a lock.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's a lock.

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Speaker 8: No, I just hard to find a role for him

493
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Speaker 8: because they're gonna be dime package on third down, you know,

494
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Speaker 8: six DB's and then you have the five zero rush package.

495
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Speaker 8: He's not really a rusher and he's not really a

496
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Speaker 8: cover guy in that package. So he's not gonna play

497
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Speaker 8: on third down. The kicking game is really where he's

498
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Speaker 8: gonna make his Hey, but now you already have guys

499
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Speaker 8: like Chris Bord on the team who's gonna, you know,

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Speaker 8: be a linebacker slash special teamer.

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Speaker 1: And an injury he can fill into that.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 8: So when I did my roster projection or my sample out,

504
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Speaker 8: I didn't have him out, but I told you I

505
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Speaker 8: had fifty four players.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to fifty three.

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Speaker 6: And so is would you rather?

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Speaker 8: I think what some of these decisions are, like, would

509
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Speaker 8: you rather Malige Cunningham to stay on the team No?

510
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Speaker 8: Or mac Wilson. Would you rather six carry six receivers?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Or mac Wilson. Would you rather keep depth at defensive

513
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Speaker 8: line or interior offensive line over mac Wilson? Like those

514
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Speaker 8: are kind of the I think.

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Speaker 6: You might need it on the offensive line, like out

516
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Speaker 6: of necessity. But that's like I'm glad that Evan brought

517
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Speaker 6: brought it up that way because that's how these things

518
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Speaker 6: have to piece together. Like you can say, well, I

519
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Speaker 6: want to keep Booty and Cunningham, but I can't. Well

520
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Speaker 6: you can, but you got to cut somebody that you

521
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Speaker 6: think was on the team. And I'm not saying it

522
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Speaker 6: is mac Wilson. Josh Bledze has played a lot of

523
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Speaker 6: snaps the first two preseasons. The other guy. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's a lock, but I don't think

525
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Speaker 6: anybody thinks he's a lock. I think most people will

526
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Speaker 6: probably consider mac Wilson's on the team. I don't think

527
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Speaker 6: everybody says Bledsoe is definitely on the team. So some

528
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Speaker 6: of those guys got to go if if you're going

529
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Speaker 6: to keep extra somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had some flashbacks to him versus Lamar last year,

531
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Speaker 1: which I mean different offense, different attack, but same thing where.

532
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Speaker 6: He had the wasn't he involved in the one on

533
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Speaker 6: on Josh Allen too by the sideline, Well, he didn't

534
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Speaker 6: push him out of push him out of bounds, and

535
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Speaker 6: Allen just basically held him with one hand into a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: With the Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I also, I give Johnny a Tobaya pass and a

538
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Speaker 8: lot's going on in Hawaii right now, and his mind is,

539
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Speaker 8: you know, it's probably on that. So he didn't have

540
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Speaker 8: a very good game either.

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Speaker 6: He played a lot too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I don't think that that's, you know, a

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Speaker 8: cut candidate necessarily, but.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 1: But he at least moves and breaks some thump like

546
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Speaker 1: even when he was wrong. At least he's making an

547
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Speaker 1: impact where MacWilson just kind of bout.

548
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Speaker 4: He's in on a lot of plays. He may not

549
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Speaker 4: be the first guy, but he surprisingly well for a

550
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Speaker 4: guy his Yeah, I think he's it's okay.

551
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Speaker 8: Yeah. I think the last thing just with the run defense,

552
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Speaker 8: for me is just they got to play one of

553
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Speaker 8: those safeties up top, and so Dugger, one of Dugger,

554
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Speaker 8: Phillips or Peppers is not going to be in the box.

555
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Speaker 8: And those three guys are all really good run defenders

556
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Speaker 8: for their size, especially but just in general, and I

557
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Speaker 8: think Phillips is probably still the best run defender out

558
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Speaker 8: of all of them. I think Pepper's the most physical guy,

559
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Speaker 8: and Dougger's just Dugger. But one of those guys is

560
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Speaker 8: going to be playing deep safety, you would think, and

561
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Speaker 8: THETT Mills, unless it's Mills or maybe Miles Bryant. But

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Speaker 8: that was another thing that I felt like was noticeable

563
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Speaker 8: was the fact that you know, now you kind of

564
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Speaker 8: have to put one of your better physical guys in

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Speaker 8: the box deep and so you're losing another one of

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Speaker 8: those guys too.

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Speaker 6: So I thought when you started to say that, you

568
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Speaker 6: felt like they maybe would be playing more too deep.

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Speaker 8: So they did play a little bit and it was

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Speaker 8: Peppers and Phillips had the halves, which means that you're

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Speaker 8: now losing both of those guys as run defendery.

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Speaker 6: I would I would think, and I don't know when

573
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Speaker 6: you guys were there so you could see the alignments

574
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Speaker 6: all the time on TV, you're limited. I would think

575
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Speaker 6: that Mills would be one of the guys back, and

576
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Speaker 6: then you have a choice with the guys. Mills, one

577
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Speaker 6: of those guys could be next to him. And that's

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Speaker 6: why Mike to you a point about Carl Davis. If

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Speaker 6: you're going to play like the Patriots have had a

580
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Speaker 6: physical safety as an extra run supporter a lot, maybe

581
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Speaker 6: they feel like they can't do that this year. Yeah,

582
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Speaker 6: and they might need more beef upfront. Maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought it was interesting that you know, Peppers

584
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Speaker 8: was playing center field on third down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't like him involved in coverage. Sorry, you watch

587
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Speaker 6: your mouth. Sorry, I don't like him involved in coverage

588
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Speaker 6: very much.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was the guy. Yeah, he was the guy

590
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Speaker 8: in center field. I think so Jalen Mills. They've used

591
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Speaker 8: both deep and they've used him to cover tight ends.

592
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Speaker 8: So they've used him in all over the place this summe. Yeah,

593
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Speaker 8: and he's been great basically anywhere. But on the touchdown

594
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Speaker 8: pass that they gave up to Jayden Reid, Adrian Phillips

595
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Speaker 8: was playing deep and he was in a blender. He

596
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Speaker 8: got got completely lost up top. So I think that

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Speaker 8: that's a real concern. I still do that. I have

598
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Speaker 8: no idea who's going to play deep. I have no

599
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Speaker 8: idea who really feels the most comfortable doing it. I

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Speaker 8: think in terms of experience and instincts, it's probably Dougger.

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Speaker 8: But do you really want to take Dougger and put

602
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Speaker 8: him twelve yards off the ball on every snap and.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to make any play.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I really think that there's a chance that

605
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Speaker 8: Mills or Miles Bryant might emerge as the guy there.

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Speaker 4: We should talk about, you know, what happened in the

607
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Speaker 4: game as well, and you know, with Isaiah Bolden and

608
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Speaker 4: suspending the rest of the game and all that, and

609
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Speaker 4: then the canceling of the joint practices in Nashville and

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Speaker 4: what that means, you know, going forward, because I also

611
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Speaker 4: noticed that the Saints and Texans canceled their joint practice.

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Speaker 4: You know, but we also know that coaches value these

613
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Speaker 4: joint practices. You know, some people are like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to have joint practices anymore. There's no

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Speaker 4: way that's gonna happen, especially if what I believe is

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Speaker 4: going to happen, where you're going to get let one

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Speaker 4: less preseason game, they're going to add another regular season game,

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Speaker 4: so it'll be two and eighteen. These joint practice are

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Speaker 4: going to be even more important, you know. So my

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Speaker 4: solution I've thought about it is that when you have

621
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Speaker 4: a joint practice, there has to be refs, and there

622
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Speaker 4: has to be an NFL observer, and fights in that

623
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Speaker 4: type of stuff are handled like it would a game.

624
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Speaker 4: Fins and or suspensions levy by the league on those things.

625
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Speaker 4: And I think that having refs there not just when

626
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Speaker 4: the teams, you know, go into eleven on eleven, but

627
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Speaker 4: even if it's a one on one drill offensive line

628
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Speaker 4: versus defensive drill, throwing a flag when a guy's hand

629
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Speaker 4: is up against up underneath a guy's chin, so that

630
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Speaker 4: stuff doesn't boil over because that's where these fights start.

631
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Speaker 4: It's like this guy's getting away with this. I'm getting

632
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Speaker 4: sick of it. Then I lash out. And so if

633
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: you nip those things in the bud early, then there's

634
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: less chance that it boils over and guys, you know,

635
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: start getting pissed off at each other. But you have

636
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Speaker 4: to have that, you guys.

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Speaker 6: They had refs, yes.

638
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the rest are there, but they're not.

639
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 6: They're throwing flags, the fine at eleven the fine thing.

640
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

641
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Speaker 6: No, they throw flags for everything, not when like they

642
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Speaker 6: do when they're here.

643
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Speaker 4: Man O a man o.

644
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Speaker 6: No, they do when they're here. I've seen them on

645
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Speaker 6: one of one drills. If they think there's illegal contact,

646
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Speaker 6: the ref will throw the flag.

647
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Speaker 4: I've seen it when an offensive lineman's going on it.

648
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Speaker 6: Yes, I've seen.

649
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Speaker 4: I've never seen.

650
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Speaker 6: That, Okay I have now. I did not see Green Bay,

651
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Speaker 6: so I don't think they didn't do anything. They didn't

652
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Speaker 6: do anyone on ones in Greenway.

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Speaker 8: I've never seen a joint practice like go. They went

654
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Speaker 8: right into eleven on eleven's and they did eleven on

655
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Speaker 8: elevens for an hour and a half straight.

656
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was well, that's a lot. I've never seen that.

657
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Speaker 6: The other part I'm one hundred percent with, and that's

658
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Speaker 6: and the league has the ability to do this now

659
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Speaker 6: they like Mark Andrews gets in a fight with a

660
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: guy and throws him down. That should be a fine. Yeah,

661
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 6: that should you should be subject to fine. It's right,

662
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 6: everybody saw it. Why does the league not the league

663
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 6: has the ability to do that, do it because if

664
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 6: they know that they're subjective to find, they won't behave

665
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 6: like that across the board. Yeah, I agree, but you

666
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 6: would you don't see that in games?

667
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: Would you consider Fred just doing joint practices with a

668
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: team and then not following with a game, like, because

669
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: some ways it felt like the game, Like, I think

670
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: the most important part of the game is just for

671
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks to be live and for live tackling, and

672
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: those are the things you don't get.

673
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: Well economically, though, it doesn't make sense to do a

674
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: joint practice if you're not already in a talent for

675
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: the game or you know they're you know, like, yeah,

676
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: it's just no.

677
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 6: I think you're right, Fred. I think there'll be some

678
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 6: changes and maybe it'll be one practice instead of two,

679
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 6: maybe it'll be only one padded practice instead of two, right,

680
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: And I think that another part of this. And I

681
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: don't have anything to base this on other than that.

682
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 6: Bill said, it was a factor at the Isaiah Bolden

683
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 6: injury was a factor. Was one of the factors. So

684
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 6: there were a lot of other I think there's a chance,

685
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 6: not saying that they wouldn't know, I think there's a

686
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 6: chance that they would have canceled in Tennessee anyway, just

687
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 6: like Houston and New Orleans did.

688
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: Was that What was that for? Did they have a

689
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: reason for fatigue?

690
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 6: Fatigue like they've banged up and they were tired. Yeah,

691
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 6: And I think teams will look at what the Patriots

692
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 6: had scheduled this year, I think in the future and

693
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 6: maybe stay away from that, like we're going to go

694
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 6: two in a row on the road, Like, I don't

695
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 6: think that's in the best play the player's best interest.

696
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 6: I don't think a lot of players probably loved the

697
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: idea of at this time of year, we're on the

698
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 6: road for eleven days. You know, normally you get a

699
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: chance to see your family or whatever, and now I'm

700
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 6: away at this time of year now during the season,

701
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 6: when you go out back to back West Coast games,

702
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 6: it is what it is, you know, But I I wonder,

703
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 6: and I don't know. I'm not speaking from any knowledge here.

704
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 6: I wrote this for the notes that we just posted

705
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: this morning, maybe some alterations to what they do in

706
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 6: the future, because they're not going away. They're too valuable.

707
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 6: The joint practices, I think all the coaches agree, especially

708
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: better than the pres.

709
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: Especially like if if it's true that you're going to

710
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: end up losing a preseason game, you're going to have

711
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: to have these joint practices.

712
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: I just I mean, to Evan's point, like I there

713
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: was so much value in I mean, they did so

714
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: much work, and I mean, I guess, you know, I

715
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: know that we joke about how long the practice was.

716
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: I think just what it was was that usually it's

717
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: broken up with individual drills and you see, you know

718
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: there's some time to meander. There was no time for that.

719
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: It was you walked onto the field, the music's going,

720
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: it's go time, eleven on eleven, and they would just

721
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: kind of you know, occasional little special teams periods. But

722
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: they just did so much work and you see the

723
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: value that that has and how much just we got

724
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: as observers getting to see it over and over and

725
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: over again, rep after reps, so well, like.

726
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: You know, in in the Texans in Saints case, the

727
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: Texans had just had a joint practice with us, just

728
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: like we had just had one with them. So that's

729
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: two weeks of joint practices. Maybe it's like, you know,

730
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: you just do one joint practice. If you're gonna do

731
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: two joint practices with teams, it's one day and one

732
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: day instead of four days.

733
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 6: The Texans didn't have joint practices. We just played them.

734
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: Oh that's right.

735
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 6: We had a preseason game with Houston.

736
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all. So who do we have?

737
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 6: We were good tennis? Yeah, yeah, No, But I do

738
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 6: think at this time of year, you know, and I

739
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 6: know it sounds silly like, but there also was going

740
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: to be like one hundred plus degrees in Nashville.

741
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

742
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 6: I'm not sure that that was in the best interest

743
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: of the team either. I think there were a lot

744
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 6: of things that went into this, and I think, you know, unfortunately,

745
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: the serious nature of Isaiah Bolden going down Saturday night

746
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 6: was the impetus for all of it, and then they

747
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 6: kind of sat.

748
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: Back, you know, let's let's read the room, let's just

749
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: go home.

750
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 8: They're down five offensive linemen. They're down Jonathan Jones, they're

751
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 8: down Taekwon Thornton, they're down Isaiah Bolden. Obviously they just

752
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 8: went through a pretty traumatic experience with Isaiah Bolden. It's

753
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 8: gonna be a hundred degrees in Nashville. Like it was

754
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 8: just kind of stacking up all the factors, it felt like.

755
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 8: And I I agree with you though, Paul I. I

756
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 8: kind of was skeptical of the eleven straight days on

757
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 8: the road, mostly for me personally, but also for the team.

758
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 8: And I feel like, you know, I was out there

759
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 8: last year when they we we did Arizona, and I

760
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 8: saw the Raiders game coming from a mile away and

761
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 8: on a mental mistake.

762
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: And maybe Bill remembered that and said summer remember ready

763
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: to perform in that can remember.

764
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 6: The summer when they were in Vegas for the whole

765
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 6: week in their tweeting And I know Trent.

766
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: What he was talking about, Yeah, said Arizona.

767
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 6: To that was the regular season?

768
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: They did it again?

769
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, they did. They did it twice. I know

770
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 6: like that, like Evan's talking about the regular season.

771
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: When they went from Arizona to the rast, you were

772
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: talking about the preseason.

773
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 6: No, No, the preseason.

774
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: Brown said I want to go home.

775
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I And you think he was the only one. No,

776
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 8: I could just tell that. So, I mean, I've been

777
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 8: over this before. We went to Arizona for the Cardinals game.

778
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 8: That took a bus to Tucson in the middle of

779
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 8: the night, get to Tucson at like three o'clock in

780
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 8: the morning, and then they practiced out there, and when

781
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 8: they got to the Raiders game, like I could just

782
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 8: feel it, like I felt like we were all exhausted

783
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 8: and we didn't even have to practice or play in

784
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 8: an NFL football game on Monday night, and then you

785
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 8: get to the game on Sunday and I was like,

786
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 8: this is something is going to happen in this game.

787
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 6: I did don't have one this year, right, No, we didn't.

788
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 6: We didn't get a West coast Germany. Yeah, but back

789
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 6: to back, we didn't have the West coast trips.

790
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 8: Yeah.

791
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I thought Denver maybe in Dallas or the.

792
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: Raiders Denver and the Raiders with people were sort of opining, look,

793
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 6: they'll be back to back and they're not.

794
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 8: Yeah. But I think Fred has a great idea with

795
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 8: the league stepping in starting to find players or even

796
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 8: suspend players if it gets really out of control like

797
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 8: they did hear last year against Carolina, whether it's you have

798
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 8: to give us the tape of the practice that you know,

799
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 8: and you can't stop recording like in between snaps or

800
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 8: like you have to give us the full tape of

801
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 8: the practice of the.

802
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 6: Taping process, like you have to do this and everybody

803
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: has to do with the same. And I was I

804
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 6: was even subject to fine.

805
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: I was even thinking, you know, with less preseason, if

806
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 4: there are more joint practices going on at the same week,

807
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: you may not have enough NFL refs to go around.

808
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 4: Use college, use local college refs. I don't care whatever.

809
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 6: You cannot more joint practices than there are in an

810
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 6: NFL week in the games, No, but the refs are available.

811
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 6: The refs are always at joint practices.

812
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: But that time of year they may not be because

813
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: they're not full time employees.

814
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 6: But I mean, like last year in Carol and that

815
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 6: fight happened, there were reps.

816
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, whatever it needs to be done to

817
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: not allow these things to fester, you know, these like

818
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: things that happen, little things, all right. He pushed me,

819
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: I push him back, and then.

820
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: It's exactly, but I think you have it.

821
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly what happened with Keon White last week. So

822
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 8: ke On White, it was brewing, like right, it just

823
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 8: continued to like get more and more and more. And uh,

824
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 8: it started because he ran somebody over on punt team

825
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 8: and it was impressive. I mean, he's a two hundred

826
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 8: and eighty pound guy in space and he just trucked

827
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 8: the guy, which was cool. But that's when Green Bay

828
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 8: started to get a little bit annoyed. And then he's

829
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 8: in the trenches and I'm sure as a rookie and

830
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 8: a physical guy, he was probably going a little bit

831
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 8: harder than they thought was right for practice. And some

832
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 8: of the guys in Green Bay started to get mad

833
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, they're here here gums, you know,

834
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 8: and you could feel it. It was like steps to

835
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 8: get to that point. And then you're seeing helmets fly.

836
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: In and the helmet out of it.

837
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, I.

838
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 6: Came late to what I heard everyone like doing.

839
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it seemed like on White just grabbed the

840
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: guy's helmet.

841
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 6: Threw it out. But that's a perfect like it just

842
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 6: it it. It's gonna happen, And part of this is

843
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 6: on the players themselves. I don't know if anybody saw

844
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 6: any of the game last night Washington and Baltimore. It

845
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 6: was a touchdown twenty four. It was the streak up

846
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: at twenty six. I think that's amazing. But there was

847
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 6: a oh I think to Antonio Gibson that he caught

848
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: just outside the goal line, bowled his way in. But

849
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: it was like a struggle to get in and here

850
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: comes an offensive lineman for Washington with a ridiculous cheap

851
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 6: shot like es berries a defensive back trying to knock

852
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 6: him off the pile, and the guy goes flying. The

853
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: guy predictably gets up and goes after the guy. So

854
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 6: what happens unnecessary raptiss on both guys. I'm sorry anybody

855
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 6: who watched the play saw what happened. That wasn't not

856
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 6: necessary roughness on both guys.

857
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 8: Twenty four year right, that's twenty fourth straight.

858
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 6: It was twenty four straight and that they had one.

859
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 8: That's that's unbelievable since twenty fifteen.

860
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: That's one of the hardest things, Like as a referee

861
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: is like the stupid little push and then the reaction

862
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: and usually the rest get the reaction inside. But everybody saw,

863
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: that's my philosophy.

864
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 6: Everybody saw the rocket shot ye the commander's guy through

865
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 6: throw him out of the game, like make there be

866
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 6: repercussions for that behavior, right, and then maybe it stops.

867
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 8: Well that's what happened to poor Anthony Jennings. So so

868
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 8: Keon White gets swung at by the Packers. The Packers

869
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 8: player threw a punch at him. So Anthony Jennings came

870
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 8: over and Keon White's defense landed a forearm shiver on

871
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 8: the guy. And Anthony Jennings is the one that gets

872
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 8: kicked out of practice.

873
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right, he was primed though.

874
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: I could tell just from like the early scuffles, like

875
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: he was on the sidelines. They're like holding them back,

876
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: like you could tell he was, you.

877
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: Know, NFL observer at all these joints. The film goes

878
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 4: into the league, the practice film goes into the league,

879
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: they make an evaluation and finds indoor suspensions are levied.

880
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: That's that you have to do it. I don't know

881
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: if treat the pre treat these practices like the game.

882
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I saw anything before that that

883
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: I would have said that should be a fine.

884
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: You know, like like.

885
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: There it was just guys locked up, you know, jarring

886
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: with each other.

887
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: And I you know, I put some of it on

888
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: the coaches when you see this stuff starting to happen.

889
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: Stop you knock it off? You not, you know, like

890
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: they've got to step into they can't just like, you know,

891
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: smiled to themselves, like, oh, our guys are tough. You know.

892
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: Bill was right in there. Bill was right in there.

893
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: He pulled them over. I think it was before the

894
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: four defensive ones happened. Then he pulled everybody together, and

895
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: then it was the two special teams ones. It takes

896
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: all of us, takes all of us, the special teams, Paul,

897
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: they let.

898
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 6: Us down again.

899
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 8: All but you obviously worry, and I don't. I don't

900
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 8: think that this is why Kean White got hurt. But

901
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 8: I'm also not ruling it out, Like I'm not saying

902
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 8: somebody took a cheap shot at him, but maybe.

903
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, but without media core if that happened someone, you.

904
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 4: Know, beyond beyond just like football itself, we're talking about

905
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: the product, you know, the quality of the product, and

906
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: less practices isn't good for anyone, you know, it's not

907
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: good for the quality of play. And I'm I'm sick

908
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: of this whole thing. Well, September now is an extension

909
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: of preseason. It shouldn't be these guys should be prepared

910
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: to play. So whatever we can do to get them prepared,

911
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 4: let's do it. You know, Let's not take away opportunities

912
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: to prepare. Let's make them better, you know, because you

913
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: know people are gonna be like, I'm not watching September

914
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: because it's staks. You know, I don't think that's gonna

915
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: happen in the near future, but it's progressing that way

916
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: where the quality of football early on is not as

917
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: good as it is later. And you know, that's not

918
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 4: good for anyone.

919
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 8: It's also not good for the league that these fights

920
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 8: are happening. And I don't I don't mean to like

921
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 8: sound like you know, but it's it's it's not good

922
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 8: for the image of the league that these fights are happening.

923
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 8: And especially I mean, these fights, like Mike said in

924
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 8: Green Bay were nowhere near but what we saw last

925
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 8: year against Carolina here, that's scary, Like that was not

926
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 8: okay near the fans and everything right, and that type

927
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 8: of stuff is just not whether it's it gets a

928
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 8: lot of attention on Twitter and like some people think

929
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 8: it's cool or not, Like it's not cool, and you see,

930
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 8: like an NBA the fans are so close to the

931
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 8: to the court, you know, like these tall, skinny guys

932
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 8: will fall in. Yeah, think about a guy that size

933
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 8: but twice the weight or whatever.

934
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: You know, like somebody's gonna get hurt. Wise, Yeah, somebody's

935
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: gonna get hurt monster, you know.

936
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Or falling into your angle.

937
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that's our preseason rant. But you know,

938
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: but I.

939
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 6: Think it will lead to some changes. I don't know.

940
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 6: I don't I don't think people are going to eliminate

941
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 6: them because they're too important.

942
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: They too important.

943
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 6: I think that they will change the way maybe that

944
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 6: they they scheduled them and what exactly they're you know

945
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 6: they're doing. Yeah, because I do think they take a toll.

946
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 4: Eight five five pats five hundred. Is the A sticket

947
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: hotline web radio dot com, you.

948
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: Know what I mean? The email on the road one

949
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 6: joint Well, but I mean, if you're gonna have two

950
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 6: out of the three, you're gonna have joint practices, well,

951
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 6: you know, have one against Houston one against Green Bay

952
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 6: as opposed to having the prospect of two weeks on

953
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 6: the road.

954
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 8: See, I would I would also consider is week one

955
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 8: of the preseason. In week three of the preseason like,

956
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 8: I think breaking them too, bat like that. I think

957
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 8: the back to back is a lot.

958
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: Well let's but let's think ahead. Let's think about when

959
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: it comes to the day where there's only two preseason games,

960
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: assuming that they're going to start the season at the

961
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: same time, you're going to have more space now, you know,

962
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: So do you you know, keep the last two preseason

963
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: games so that you know they equal what two and

964
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: three are now and you have more time with your

965
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: team that beat up to it.

966
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: You know, that would be my guest. But I don't know,

967
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 6: because I know there is a timetable for when training

968
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 6: camp starts. It's like fifteen days ahead of the first game,

969
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 6: So I don't know.

970
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 4: All of this is going to have to be renegotiated.

971
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like.

972
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: Evan's idea one in three.

973
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 6: Oh I break.

974
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: I like this break that we're about to go on

975
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: next week where and I think they probably like it

976
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: too that they have, you know, two weeks really to prepare.

977
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's really watching practices anymore. I definitely wouldn't bring back

978
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: that fourth preseason game like right before Labor Day weekend.

979
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: Oh, they're never going to do that. That's gone forever. Yeah, yeah,

980
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: I can tell you. Yeah, no, I know, but but again,

981
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: more practice is good. It's good for the quality of

982
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: the game.

983
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 6: In September, question it would be, do you push back

984
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 6: the start of camp like they didn't. They kept everything

985
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 6: as is one, two, three, They just eliminated four. If

986
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 6: you're eliminating now three, do you keep it where it

987
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 6: is and do one two and then have a long

988
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 6: break or do you push everything back a week and

989
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 6: make it like two three the way it is now?

990
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: I think if you had a home game in and

991
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: away game so you can kind of get everybody on

992
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: the same page as far as travel and just understanding

993
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: how things work on the road. But you know, having

994
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: that maybe a little bit of a week in between

995
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to get back to fix, to figure out, you know,

996
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: how you want to reset, and then you know you're

997
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: not kind of just like right back onto a game

998
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: schedule where yeah, we're doing training camp, but you're also

999
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: kind of preparing, you know, like that's all.

1000
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: If there's all going to be two, maybe you do

1001
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 6: it in week one the way it is now, and

1002
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: then you have a week off and then you do

1003
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 6: week three the way it is now.

1004
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: Because I mean, how quick did we see that they're

1005
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: just running plays off cards. Now they're starting to do

1006
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: stuff that Houston's gonna do. You know, we start to

1007
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: see like light prap.

1008
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 6: Not that if you have to have some sort of

1009
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 6: base knowledge, you don't want to say. Bill always says,

1010
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 6: you don't want to send your guys out there running

1011
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 6: into a brick wall. So you have to know what

1012
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 6: the other.

1013
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Team's going today. They're going to be out there. There's

1014
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: probably not we're going to see it, probably, but you

1015
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be some Tennessee prep like you know,

1016
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: they have to go right into that instead of I mean,

1017
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't you love not to say this is what I'm

1018
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: pitching because this is the third week. But you know,

1019
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: if you had some time after a game to really

1020
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: all right, this is what we really need to work on.

1021
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: Let's not think about an opponent right now. Let's think

1022
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: about us for a week and then we'll get back

1023
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: into preparing for us.

1024
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: And just says there's no need for joint practices. Move

1025
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: to eighteen games, move to two preseason games, no more

1026
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: joint practices. Problem solved.

1027
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 6: I think, you know practice, How does that solve the problem?

1028
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that that's.

1029
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 6: Less less prepared. Right now, you're taking another game and

1030
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 6: practice away from them.

1031
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, other than the physicality of like I said, of

1032
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: tackling and the quarterback being live in the pocket and

1033
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: having a true sense of what the protection is like,

1034
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: I just I think situationally for your playbuck for your

1035
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: install like where you're, hey, we're gonna run like thirty

1036
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: red zone plays right now, Like that's immensely valuable. You

1037
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: do it in a preseason game, you might not get won.

1038
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: I mean you have to practice like you play too,

1039
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: you know, like football is what it is. At some

1040
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: point you got to play at full You got to

1041
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: practice at full speed or you're not going to be prepared.

1042
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 8: This was full tilt in Green Bay. This was a game,

1043
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 8: live game speed other than tackling, and it was as

1044
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 8: as competitive of a joint practices I've ever seen. I mean,

1045
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 8: it was great.

1046
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: The quarterback needs to see it at full speed so

1047
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: we can get in tune with his decision making and

1048
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 4: his I mean that's what it is. It was great.

1049
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: You have to practice like you play.

1050
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 8: It was fantastic. I mean the second day this why

1051
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 8: you know the fans obviously it's your in enemy territory,

1052
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 8: so to speak, and you know, they're going back and forth,

1053
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 8: and it was it was game like, you know, it

1054
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 8: really felt like it was a game, and almost even

1055
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 8: more intimate because of the obviously it's a smaller area,

1056
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 8: but also because there's no it's not on TV, so like

1057
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 8: you're sitting there behind the sideline and you're hearing Jabriel

1058
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 8: Peppers chirping, which I your Alexander, and you're you're seeing

1059
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 8: the back and forth and guys coming off the sideline

1060
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 8: and their reactions.

1061
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: And I think, other than the chippiness, I think the

1062
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: quality of those practices helped Bill make the decision to

1063
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: not have as.

1064
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 6: I agree that absolute yeah, you know, and not that

1065
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: it was the same, but like even the game, the

1066
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 6: game wasn't tremendously well played. Okay, it was better than

1067
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 6: the Houston game, but still a preseason game. The crowd though,

1068
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 6: seventy thousand, but like unreal, but seventy thousand that you

1069
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 6: could hear on TV. Yeah, like the crowd's getting a

1070
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 6: lot like that. You know, part of me like chuckles

1071
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 6: about it, but they were into the game. That's probably

1072
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 6: for a coach or visiting coach like this is pretty good. Oh,

1073
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 6: it's a good hostile road environment, you know, in a

1074
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 6: game that doesn't matter. It was crazy, how like it

1075
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 6: was that translated. It was like you could hear it

1076
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 6: on TV that translated love.

1077
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1078
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 8: I mean I would say the crowd like last year

1079
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 8: when they played them in the regular season obviously better,

1080
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 8: but that for a preseason game, that was that was crazy.

1081
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 8: I mean it was packed.

1082
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, it's like going to church in Green Bay.

1083
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't miss, you don't miss.

1084
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 6: Matt Smith said, you know, he was going out to

1085
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 6: practice and then you know, and going around the field

1086
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 6: there was this big pile. They still have, like their

1087
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 6: their newspaper. Oh yeah, you know if it's Packers Weekly

1088
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 6: or whatever it is. But you know, those mid Midwesterners,

1089
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 6: they're not going to give up their paper.

1090
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: How paper cheese curds.

1091
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 6: Have some cheese curds.

1092
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: I did. I had a little bit. Yeah, the ones

1093
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Speaker 4: I had weren't as good as the ones we had

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00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: last year.

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00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 6: There's the deuce face cheese curds.

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Speaker 4: Well, what's wrong with cheese curds? You didn't like it?

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00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 8: Really, that's a hot take.

1098
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 6: That is a hot take.

1099
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: It's just a giant hunk of cheese.

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's wrong with cheese?

1101
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 9: That is?

1102
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: But everything's better.

1103
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm on your side of this, you right now.

1104
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: But Breddit, it made it even better, made it even

1105
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 6: worse for you.

1106
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I know.

1107
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 6: I'm not just a kid.

1108
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 4: I like it all right.

1109
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 6: Let's get to the he's too old for it evolved.

1110
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: Let's get to the calls and emails. Eight five to

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Speaker 4: five pats five hundred. We'll start with Todd North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Todd.

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00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 10: I love your conversation about the preseason because I think

1114
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 10: it's right into what I said in the post game,

1115
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 10: the post preseason game thing with Hardy and the guys.

1116
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 10: I said, my two concerns are right now. My only

1117
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 10: two concerns in the line play of the defense and

1118
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 10: the offensive line. And you're right, without enough practices, they're

1119
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 10: the ones that suffer the most because if they're not

1120
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 10: getting contact, full contact, aggressive contact, they're not developing, they're

1121
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 10: not getting into game shape, they're not getting ready. And

1122
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 10: I look at those two lines and I watch it.

1123
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 10: I know a lot of with backups and stuff, but

1124
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 10: I think our starting d line was out there for

1125
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 10: a good part of the first half, and they couldn't

1126
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 10: stop the run, as you know, man, they couldn't up

1127
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 10: the run if they were than you know, dangerous. It

1128
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 10: just seemed like the Green Bay went, well, we're going

1129
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 10: to run the ball, now, what do you want to

1130
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 10: do about it? And we had no answer. And I'm like, yeah,

1131
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 10: I know, it's preseason. I know that that's you know, alarmist,

1132
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 10: but you know it just those little things, that's the

1133
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 10: only thing right now. I think our pastor our receivers

1134
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 10: are good. I like where Max's brain is. I think

1135
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 10: somebody said that Max seems to be back to old

1136
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 10: Mac where he's anticipating and throwing cricket. I just if

1137
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 10: the line doesn't give him time, it doesn't matter. He's

1138
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 10: gonna be on his back. So and then if we

1139
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 10: can't stop the run, it's going to be a long season.

1140
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 10: So I know, what do you think.

1141
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the defense time line. I mean,

1142
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: they have the horses. I'm not worried about I think

1143
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. And I mean I think as much

1144
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: as I'm fine with the personnel, I also think Paul's

1145
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: probably bigger point is like it doesn't really matter that

1146
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: much anyway.

1147
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 6: Like you know, like, you don't have to go.

1148
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't want the ball to be the ultimate shutdown

1149
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: run defense to be a great defense.

1150
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 6: I think that's an easy fix. It's about let's put

1151
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 6: it that way, right.

1152
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: And it's like I said, it's the Ted Johnson thing.

1153
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: It's like a bunch of veterans that have been doing

1154
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: this forever. And yeah, you're in the preseason, and I'm

1155
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: sure you'd like him to play better. But I think

1156
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: when the when, when, when it's live, they'll they'll be

1157
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: stop ahead on But Jalen hurts, That's that's another I

1158
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: have a lot.

1159
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 6: More concerns about the consistency of the in production of

1160
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 6: the passing game than I do stopping the runs. You know,

1161
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 6: Max brain aside, I'm not sure that they're talented enough

1162
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 6: and consistent enough to produce at a high enough level.

1163
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: No, I like the third downs though, I mean I

1164
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: thought they had.

1165
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 6: I liked a lot of the We talked a lot

1166
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 6: about it the post game. I like a lot of

1167
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 6: the stuff that I saw in this game, and I

1168
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 6: didn't like a lot of other stuff too. Like that's

1169
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. The consistency.

1170
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I have zero concern about the run defense not

1171
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 8: me too. Right now. The pass rush, I thought, I

1172
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 8: I don't have concerns about they'll be better at pressuring

1173
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 8: the quarterback if that's the plan against Philly. Philly is

1174
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 8: going to hang forty five on them, Like I'm just

1175
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 8: like that that they cannot if they're going to mush

1176
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 8: rush Jalen Hurts and that's going to be the approach is, Oh,

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00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 8: let's just keep them in the pocket and not actually

1178
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 8: get any pressure on him. I'll put it at fifty

1179
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 8: for the Eagles.

1180
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 6: We I agree now what I would wow when I

1181
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: was a little disappointed about with the pass rush. That's

1182
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 6: different than the run. I'm not sort of whistling past

1183
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 6: the graveyard because I think Evan's right about that. I

1184
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 6: would have liked to have seen more guys just win

1185
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 6: a one on one. Like I know, they didn't do

1186
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 6: anything exotic the other night. They blitzed a little bit,

1187
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 6: Mills came for you once and the the bat just

1188
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 6: completely swallowed them. But I didn't see a lot of

1189
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 6: like tight like tackle and stuff. But I think that

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Speaker 6: they still have to scheme to get their pressure, and

1191
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 6: that to me worries me a little bit.

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00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: I thought that I thought swallowed up.

1193
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely did. It seemed like they were running

1194
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: right at him. But but I would say the first

1195
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: day joint practice, I was impressed with the pass rush.

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00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: I thought that they were like Judon, especially Dietrich wise,

1197
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: like they had a good day. And then what I

1198
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Speaker 1: felt like the second day was that there wasn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure, but it was better on the back end.

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Speaker 1: The coverage was better. I don't know what kind of stuff.

1201
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 6: Coverage started really good the other night, the first two drives,

1202
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 6: I mean the first drive, like I thought there were

1203
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 6: two plays, what I mean, Jack Jones gave up a completion,

1204
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 6: but I don't think you could play it much better

1205
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 6: than he did. And then Myles Bryant had a really

1206
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 6: good coverage on a third down that got him off

1207
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 6: the field.

1208
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: After that, I heard you talk about it. I think

1209
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: during the broadcast was and it seemed to me like

1210
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: they played a little more man in practice.

1211
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was trying to figure out out you're meant

1212
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 6: to ask Evan that too, like that's that's more stuff

1213
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 6: on TV you can't see. And I asked Zoe in

1214
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 6: the middle of it, and I got a meet dad

1215
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 6: from Zah. That's a good point, Paul. You know, like

1216
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 6: I didn't really get it there is did they play

1217
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: like I know later they were playing zone. I could

1218
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 6: see you could see the soft coverage that Gonzales had

1219
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 6: and Wade had, and they weren't zones. Now, I always say, like,

1220
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 6: even though it's zone, it's still man in your zone.

1221
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 6: You got to try to prevent completions. But early in

1222
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: the game, did you see them playing man at all?

1223
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 6: A little bit?

1224
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 8: But I think my concern from a defensive point of

1225
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 8: view at that entire game is that that was up

1226
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 8: what they're gonna do against Philly. Okay, and if that's

1227
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 8: how they're going to play the Eagles, I just said it,

1228
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 8: they'll they'll score forty five.

1229
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: Because that's a cut rate version of what you're going

1230
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 6: to see with Philly. Like I'm sorry, Jordan loves not

1231
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 6: at the level that that offense was last year. One

1232
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 6: throws yeah, now, I thought, listen, he got up to

1233
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 6: a really slow start, made a couple of really bad

1234
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: decisions early in the game. That throw on third down

1235
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 6: to Dobbs with Jack Jones on him. You can't make

1236
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 6: a better throw than that. That was. Do you see

1237
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 6: that happen to seeing it like replays of that literally

1238
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 6: had this much to get it to When he put

1239
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 6: it right on his hand, it was then you know,

1240
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 6: they got moving a little bit. The deep ball, I

1241
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 6: thought that was kind of a junt like and Sooe

1242
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 6: agrees with you, was like, this beautiful drops it in

1243
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 6: the bucket. I thought that if he just threw it

1244
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 6: out in front of him and let him run to it,

1245
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 6: it might have been a little bit easier. The guy

1246
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 6: had made an incredible catch.

1247
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just defensively, they all they did in terms

1248
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 8: of the blitzes was they just added on a rusher.

1249
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 8: It was just second level guys just coming and making

1250
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 8: it five on five.

1251
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 6: I think that that might be the plan against Philly because.

1252
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 8: When you do that, you're covering all five gaps, so

1253
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 8: you're not You're trying not to let the quarterback out

1254
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 8: of the pocket. It's not so much about getting after him.

1255
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 8: It's more about making Sarah that you can. And you know,

1256
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 8: it's funny because I remember a few years ago Belichick

1257
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 8: talked about cover zero and against mobile quarterbacks. The one

1258
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 8: advantage of running a lot of cover zero is he

1259
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 8: can't get out of the pocket. There's no place for

1260
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 8: him to go. And I just worry that they're gonna

1261
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 8: they're gonna use a five man rush package that's very

1262
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 8: very vanilla and basic in terms of stunting and things

1263
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 8: like that, and it's just gonna be straight up and

1264
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 8: maybe a Jude Honor and Uch gets a carte blanche

1265
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 8: to to do whatever he's got to do to get

1266
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 8: out after the quarterback, but everybody else is gonna be

1267
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 8: focused on keeping the quarterback in the pocket. I would

1268
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 8: much rather than go after Jalen Hurts and use a spy,

1269
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 8: you know, to use somebody athletic to spy him instead,

1270
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 8: because at least then he's not just sitting back there,

1271
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 8: and I would throwing the ball like it's seven on seven.

1272
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that Love and Hurts the same,

1273
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 6: because I just said Hurts has been to you know,

1274
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 6: two full years as a starter. So but you saw

1275
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 6: the difference early in the game when Love was sort

1276
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: of flustered. I thought one of the very first you know,

1277
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 6: little misdirection play actions, He's looking to boot and get

1278
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: out and have all kinds of space and Ditrich Wise

1279
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 6: just right in his face and he almost threw the

1280
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 6: ball to us. Yeah, you know, like I think that's

1281
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 6: the better way to go at those guys, like make

1282
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 6: them make fast decisions, right. It was you know, these

1283
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 6: young quarterbacks, they don't have this timing.

1284
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: It was such an interesting contrast for me, just you know,

1285
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: getting to watch Joe and Love up close for those

1286
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: two days of practice, because it's like you said, it's

1287
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of used to Mac right now, which

1288
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: we know we get. With Mac, it's maybe not explosive

1289
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: down the field, but he's generally pretty consistent, you know,

1290
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Like it's not like all of a sudden.

1291
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: There's just like what was that?

1292
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: But with Love, it's such a like up and down.

1293
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Like some of the throws to Christian Watson, you're like,

1294
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: oh my god that you know, he's big dude.

1295
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 6: Oh he's perfect. He throws it right there.

1296
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: But then you have just brain fark decisions where all

1297
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it looks like he lost his mind

1298
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: and he has no idea what to do, Like you're just.

1299
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 6: Such he did one of those pass across his body,

1300
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 6: like I think the first might have been the first

1301
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 6: throw of the game. Well, he's sort of rolling a

1302
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 6: little bit right and he's throwing it back to the left.

1303
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 6: You can't do that. It's very lucky not to get it.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be intriguing, you know for people watching

1305
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: that team and hoping that that he does well, because

1306
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: it's like you have it, like you look, you can

1307
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: do it.

1308
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: It's there, like we know it is.

1309
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 6: But it's just how do you find that they have

1310
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 6: some pieces too in place? I think on both sides

1311
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 6: of the ball where it's it's probably not going to

1312
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 6: all be about him. They could be well, I mean,

1313
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 6: and they're in a a let's face it, the NFC

1314
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 6: is not very strong.

1315
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: It's hard not to watch them and compare what they're

1316
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: doing with their post Rogers rebuild that compared to what

1317
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots were last year. They took two receivers that

1318
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: were pretty good. This year they took Jayden Reed, they

1319
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: took the two tight ends like we thought they were

1320
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: going to take, which you know, Leake Musgrave look look

1321
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: really athletic, look like he fit right into that. So

1322
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that's the route that a

1323
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of us kind of wish that the Patriots had done.

1324
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: You know, let's just overinvest it, not overinvest, but let's

1325
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: just draft weapons high early a bunch of them. And

1326
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: now we'll see with Jordan Love and I mean Christian Watson.

1327
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have an outstanding here.

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Speaker 7: Loving company now, breast is It's a thurther down in

1348
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 7: five snapped through his hands and the pursuit of the

1349
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 7: ball the Patriots look to recover for the second straight win.

1350
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 7: I'm takeaway, I'm a game first serian.

1351
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 12: You know this isn't the disastrous two plays here by

1352
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 12: Jordan Love, you know, sort of floating that ball up

1353
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 12: there off the back foot, off the pressure and not

1354
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 12: really giving him great effort.

1355
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 5: Here the ball snapped early, hits him on the shoulder.

1356
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 12: He turns to look at the pressure, has a shot

1357
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 12: at he can't get at it. And it's just a

1358
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 12: good job by these guys swarming to the ball.

1359
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 5: Now you gotta capitalize.

1360
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 7: Second down and ten plus for the bats. Smith's Schuster

1361
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 7: slots run Jones off the playfake and the arm you

1362
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 7: go a throat all in the middle and on the

1363
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 7: slant a first down for New England to Kendrick Bourne.

1364
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 12: Pretty pretty play, great action by the quarterback Mac Jones

1365
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 12: right here off the play fate.

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00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 5: It's a quick.

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00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 12: Slang slant bang round inside. He sticks it right on

1368
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 12: the hands of Bourne. Man, if we could just progress

1369
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 12: like that to do that.

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00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: Move the ball to second and eleven play, We're gonna

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Speaker 5: win some football.

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Speaker 9: Games this year.

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00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 5: Fight formation Jones with a check and a gift.

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00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 7: Steve Ansen rams it up the middle touchdown Patriots.

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00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 12: Let's gonna start right there, and you can see the

1376
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 12: rookies getting fired up there and he off had some line,

1377
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 12: good start off the turnover, took advantage of the penalty.

1378
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 12: Just a counter gift to the right side Andrews gets

1379
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 12: him spun enough. So with some good movement on that

1380
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 12: right side, Kendrick Bourne being invigorated for the Patriots.

1381
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 7: One of the three receivers did Boyd right before he

1382
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 7: heads in motion drops the formation.

1383
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: Went Henry stays on the tight.

1384
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 7: End left to Matt Jones with a change Klana Scrimmage

1385
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 7: turns and gives Stevenson past the caase across the twenty.

1386
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 7: Stevenson past the thirty track down by the shirttail.

1387
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: The heck of a run. Heck of a run by Ramadre.

1388
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 12: Stevenson increases this and it's a good checkof by Mac.

1389
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 12: You can see him tap the top and top of

1390
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 12: the shoulder pads goes to.

1391
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 5: Another run play. So that's one of those check with mes.

1392
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 5: He likes it to that left side and there's the block.

1393
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 5: Who's that from? Is that born again? In a good

1394
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 5: job by the left tackle that is Kendrick.

1395
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 12: Born Again coming in from the top of your screen

1396
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 12: and a great run by Romadre.

1397
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: Henry back out there for the Patriots for tight end

1398
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 5: went with the motion at the bottom of the screen.

1399
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Speaker 7: On a third down and nine, Stevenson joins Jones Lamari

1400
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 7: let the team in receptions a year ago. Out of

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 7: the backfield, man goes down, so.

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Speaker 5: The open pocket collapsing. That's tough one right there. Third

1403
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 5: long you got City, so right there, get a little

1404
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 5: pressure and it's just the inside pressure to the strength

1405
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 5: of a quarterback on that right side.

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Speaker 12: You see City right there. He got under his path

1407
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 12: level and that's the killer right there. You gotta have

1408
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 12: that leverage and as a young player you'll learn from that.

1409
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 12: Coach Belichick said, these guys got some good rush ends

1410
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 12: and the City gets some really good reps this week

1411
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 12: in the joints, but nothing replicates game Scoop, I think

1412
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 12: you can get more man with pressure on the third

1413
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 12: as opposed to first six second.

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Speaker 7: Just God loves going after the rookie boy with a

1415
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 7: shot for dogs, and he's out about seeing you're playing

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01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 7: on a beautiful throw by Jordan Love.

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Speaker 12: I need I need to take another peek at this

1418
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 12: one again because it felt like to me the Jordan

1419
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 12: Love drop tis in the bucket right over the shoulder.

1420
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 12: You see bold right there. He gets a great release.

1421
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Speaker 12: But look at the recovery.

1422
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 4: And we gotta take another look at the feet.

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Speaker 5: Did he get both feet?

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01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 7: It's a fantastic to throw in out on the left Revere.

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01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 7: John Hussey has gone to the tablet. The Packers are

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Speaker 7: gone to midfield.

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 5: The receiver did complete the keats.

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 7: Now Pape's defending here on the second down and five

1429
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 7: plus with their seven nothing Mills Love again the play.

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 13: Thing looking to the end zone out the Jammer blutch

1431
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 13: complete and.

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 5: A touchdown for Janeen Reed's great trawl.

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01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 7: Great trow, great pickup off the Mills on the blitz.

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 12: Oh we get another.

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 5: We had another flag here on a kiptoo of Yado

1436
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 5: little the building.

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 6: They're gonna, they're.

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 5: Gonna, these reps are gonna step in and not let

1439
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 5: this game get away. That's it's probably smart one.

1440
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 7: Here, So Lambeau late by Jade and Reed the second

1441
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 7: round pick a rookie from Michigan State and the end

1442
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 7: he said, Jones, identifying the projections Matt him from me high,

1443
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 7: Well you're on it, Green Bay Hazards now the first

1444
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 7: and goal. Give a hop to the left and Green

1445
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 7: Bay is about to take the leisure a.

1446
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 5: Touchdown for Patrick Taylor. It's a tough one Withtucha get

1447
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 5: tucked down outside. How often you really see him lose.

1448
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 9: Containment, especially to the white side of the field like

1449
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 9: that man.

1450
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 7: Second down in ten for the Pats and Zappy I

1451
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 7: wanted you to go and I have quick throat.

1452
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 5: I sty snacks it.

1453
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 7: Daddy warns it away from the touch down.

1454
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 5: Forty two yards.

1455
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 4: Oh baby, it was.

1456
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 5: It's a dart off to pack foot. I love the

1457
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 5: slam wrong, I do.

1458
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: I really like it. You saw it early in the

1459
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: game with Kendrick Bourne.

1460
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 7: Carlson, younger brother of the Las Vegas plays kicker, the

1461
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 7: outstanding Daniel Carlson. This is a fifty two yard try

1462
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 7: hit from forty five last week in Cincinnati for the

1463
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 7: lead to win the half. The kick his air borne

1464
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 7: to the up block and Green Vegas back it drop

1465
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 7: still a second on the clock here on the opening

1466
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 7: half from Lambeau. Again here for JJ Taylor, guard's cast

1467
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 7: being filmed and stumbling inside the forty five with the first.

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 11: Down run.

1469
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 5: Fifteen yards for JJ all right, we're gonna take a

1470
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 5: look at JJ. It's a quick little give off the

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01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 5: right side.

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 6: Okay, here's so cool.

1473
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 5: Here, we're gonna see what's the XBlock look like? He

1474
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 5: seals it right there.

1475
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 12: Emilie Cunningham squares his guy up and allows JJ to

1476
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 12: cut back inside for an extra nine yards.

1477
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 7: Zappy off the fake streams of the tailor. JJ sets

1478
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 7: up the blocks well.

1479
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 5: The first down run.

1480
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 7: Up ended inside the forty five kat.

1481
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 5: It's like you'll be leak cutting him.

1482
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 12: Certain guys have a certain different level of speed, and

1483
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 12: JJ's off set there to the right gets a little

1484
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 12: chip for leases out to set up screen reads it perfectly,

1485
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 12: and remember the offensive linement cannot.

1486
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 5: Cut it now, so you can't cut block on these screens.

1487
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 7: Cutting out sets up top of your screen. Harris shifts

1488
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 7: to the left hand of Sappy.

1489
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 5: He's got to receiver stat right.

1490
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: It is.

1491
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 5: Flushed right right right, Triffic.

1492
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 7: Faily running and walking in ka trance take the lead

1493
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 7: touchdown New England.

1494
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 12: Good feet by Sappy. Because there was nothing there right here.

1495
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 12: They reset JJ from right to the left. I thought

1496
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 12: he had JJ in the left flat. He was never

1497
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 12: looking left. So you see JJ. He's going here to

1498
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 12: the flat, you know, off the stamp. He's thinking, Okay,

1499
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 12: no it's not it's actually hair.

1500
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 5: Sorry, but I thought he had it. But then you know,

1501
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 5: he stayed right.

1502
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 12: And if once you stay right and everybody's deep and

1503
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 12: he ends on, now you got a whole.

1504
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: Area where you can run to. That's good feet, good

1505
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 4: scamper by Zappi's.

1506
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 13: There's a Slanti Slander in front of Boulder, caught by

1507
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 13: a heath and balling him and shaking up, and he's

1508
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 13: got immediately calling for the medical team off the sideline.

1509
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 4: Quick. I think you got hit flas own guy.

1510
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: You can hear the pop.

1511
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 7: From up here, and immediately you saw the reaction from

1512
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 7: players on.

1513
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 5: Both teams, immediately.

1514
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 7: Frantically waving for the Patriots medical team.

1515
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: Time out of Green Bay.

1516
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 7: Hare lambeau Field, Isaia Bolden, the injured Patriot has been

1517
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 7: taken off. The conversation continued between Bill Belichick and Matt Lafleur.

1518
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 6: Matthews.

1519
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 7: Later the Patriots long time attacked and in John Hussey,

1520
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 7: the referee, who also appeared to be talking into his headset,

1521
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 7: we presume, resulting with NFL officials perhaps.

1522
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 6: Back in the NFL US.

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Speaker 12: At the agreement of both head coaches and the team leadership,

1524
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 12: we have elected to suspend play for the ring even

1525
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 12: the game is officially over, thank you.

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Speaker 7: Foll.

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01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 7: So it was in inkling the way the whole scene

1529
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 7: unfolded that the coaches were conversing about that.

1530
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 5: There was a long conversation obviously.

1531
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 7: As the medical attention continued on the field for Isaiah Bolden.

1532
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 7: And then when Bill Belichick called over Matthews ledder, that.

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Speaker 9: Was that was That was the indicator, you know, Matt

1534
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 9: Matt was over whatever the team, he had them down.

1535
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 9: And then yeah, as you could see this thing sort

1536
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 9: of play out, you're trying to keep an eye on

1537
01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 9: the player.

1538
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,280
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Speaker 1: The leaf peepers, oh oh, people coming to look at

1546
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: the folio.

1547
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Speaker 4: You don't know what leaf peepers or leaf pepers before.

1548
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: You never heard that. No people that come in to

1549
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 4: look at the season change.

1550
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 6: The people do that.

1551
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, the foliage.

1552
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 6: Yep, up north, you gotta go out.

1553
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Speaker 8: I guess maybe we're just we grew up here, so

1554
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 8: it's just you're just used to be.

1555
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Speaker 1: You didn't miss it when you lived in California.

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Speaker 6: I missed.

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: I missed this, the fall, the changing the season. I

1558
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: think it was more of the weather though. It's just

1559
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: the weather's here.

1560
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 8: It's any sort of cold.

1561
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 4: There wasn't anything, you know, the falling of the palms

1562
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 4: or anything.

1563
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: You know. Now, well, yeah, I think once you live

1564
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: in California for a while, you kind of start to

1565
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: recognize the season's changing changing. But it's a little bit,

1566
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, like it's rainy for a couple of weeks

1567
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: that was winter.

1568
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 8: You know, like that's it. It's more subtle.

1569
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I'll take New England.

1570
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: Summer though, Like September October and California we're just so hot.

1571
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: So like usually here it breaks right around this time.

1572
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: It starts to get crisp there. It's like you're just

1573
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: getting started in September and October are every bit as

1574
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: hot as as the summer is.

1575
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, uh eight five five past five hundred

1576
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 4: is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio at Patriots dot

1577
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 4: com is the email address. So team will be heading

1578
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 4: out to Nashville on Thursday this week and for the

1579
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 4: game on Friday. So we're back to normal when it

1580
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 4: comes to travel, you know, yeah, for now, Yeah, for now,

1581
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 4: let's see, let's get to some of these emails Stanley, Right, San,

1582
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 4: he says, thank you Evan for mentioning Farms in your

1583
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 4: article cool today. I thought I was the only one

1584
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 4: who thought he had been doing some good work in

1585
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 4: the trenches. Don't know if he'll make the team, but

1586
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 4: it might be time to move on from guy.

1587
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was an honorable mention in my dark horse candidates.

1588
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he he showed up. He's been showing up. He

1589
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 4: shot up in both games, and I remember last year

1590
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 4: in the last preseason game in Vegas, he showed up.

1591
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think he's got a run defense.

1592
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 8: Obviously he's going to be a first down player, but

1593
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 8: he's a he's a tough guy to move stat dude.

1594
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: Maybe can play offensive line.

1595
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,879
Speaker 6: So just an interesting kind of point because of Farms

1596
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 6: also was in this situation. I thought it was yesterday's

1597
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 6: press conference. I think Bob Sosie asked him about the

1598
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 6: spring leagues, the USFL and the XFL. I thought that

1599
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 6: was interesting because the Patriots just signed three different guys CG. Marrable,

1600
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 6: Micah Micah Vanderpool they both were in the USFL, and

1601
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 6: then Carson Wells was in the XFL. And Bob asked

1602
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 6: him if there were any things about those spring leagues

1603
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 6: that they've seen, and Bill basically said, well, yeah, because

1604
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 6: they've played in a lot of times. Those guys are

1605
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 6: in better playing shape and football shape as opposed to

1606
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 6: a guy who and he was pretty realistic about he goes, look,

1607
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 6: you know, you're dealing with a level of player here

1608
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 6: that is scrapping and fighting to get into the league.

1609
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 6: So that could be the difference between signing a guy

1610
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 6: like Marabell and a guy who was just on the

1611
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 6: street right now as a rookie or first year player

1612
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 6: looking for a job. Yeah, you know, the fact that

1613
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 6: he had played in the spring might give him a

1614
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 6: leg up. Maybe the techniques and Farms was in that

1615
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 6: situation last year. I think last year. Yeah, right. Yeah,

1616
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 6: he was a guy who played in the spring last year,

1617
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,839
Speaker 6: and Bill brought him up as an example. He's still around,

1618
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 6: you know in that regard. That was interesting the way

1619
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 6: he explained that I wasn't. He seemed to really clamp

1620
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 6: onto that one. Yeah, like that one.

1621
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 4: We were talking about wearing the padded helmets in regular

1622
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 4: season game Sames Jacket and Aba says the problem of

1623
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: soft helmets and game action is that the soft material

1624
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: has greater friction than the hard plastic. Consequently, the drag

1625
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 4: from the friction in the speed of game action would

1626
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 4: threaten to cause neck injuries by extending and stretching the

1627
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 4: time interval of contact. A concussion, as bad as it

1628
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 4: as it is, is not as dangerous as a bad

1629
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: neck injury that could result in paralysis.

1630
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 6: We weren't suggesting Fred, I know you brought this up originally.

1631
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 6: We weren't suggesting wearing those caps. We were wondering if

1632
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 6: you could get an outer layer plastic shell the way

1633
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 6: the guy from Buffalo.

1634
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: I remember a kid in my high school team were

1635
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: one of those, and that was kind of sticky too.

1636
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting email for that. Well, that's why

1637
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: you can't I would stick a little bit.

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01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 6: I totally agree with Jack, that would cause neck problems

1639
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 6: wearing those on a regular basis at.

1640
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they looked them.

1641
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 4: Jack also says, next time you're in green Bay, suggests

1642
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 4: you Dinah Gabes Wisconsin Kitchen and tavern in Oshkrosh.

1643
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 6: I like the tavern part.

1644
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 8: It's just wis you would love green Bay?

1645
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 6: Then, No, I've actually been.

1646
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 4: But where we stayed in Green Bay we didn't stay

1647
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 4: Usually we stay in Apple Appleton, and this was in

1648
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 4: Green Bay. And like you throw a rock and you'd

1649
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 4: hit one of those sports Barshe there was Title Town.

1650
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 8: That's all that you could hit.

1651
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was Copper Town.

1652
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 6: None of them.

1653
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 4: They were all the same, all the same menu.

1654
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: Did you see the Donald drivers statue? Fred were surprised

1655
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: that Donald Driver got a statue in we won.

1656
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 6: A Super Bowl.

1657
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all it takes.

1658
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 6: That's weak. It's not near the stadium. We're going to

1659
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 6: go by David David given.

1660
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 4: It's literally you could walk to it from our hotel.

1661
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 8: I understand that that the Packers have a great history

1662
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 8: and a great history and a great fan base and location,

1663
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 8: but nobody rests on their laurels like the Green Bay Packers.

1664
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,919
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Oh my god, that place is just filled

1665
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 8: with title town mentions. And I remember when we won

1666
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 8: the nineteen sixty NFL Championship and like all this stuff,

1667
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 8: and I'm just like, well, that's I mean, like it

1668
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 8: was striking to me because you know, Patriots fans have

1669
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 8: had a great twenty years, but that's you've had twenty

1670
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 8: years that you know, had.

1671
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: Kind of one dynasty, right like and even if you

1672
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: want to say it was a little bit of two

1673
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: parts because it was long, but you know, they've really

1674
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: had like three or four. So it's like they've kind

1675
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: of had this going since like you said, like the

1676
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: fifty sixties, like you know what I mean, Like like

1677
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: it's just I subperation after like happy before it comes in.

1678
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: Like I I say this as a diehard Celtics fan.

1679
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: It make it reminds me a little bit of the

1680
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: Celtics where it's like you really haven't won anything in

1681
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years, and then before that you hadn't won anything

1682
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: in another twenty years.

1683
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 8: Right, So I think it's funny.

1684
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 6: I think it's funny, Okay, watching myself, Sorry go where

1685
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 6: did Mac go? I don't know who that's we won't

1686
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 6: go that tight.

1687
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: Uh what back?

1688
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 6: Pullet back, pull it back.

1689
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 8: We're sitting in the same chair.

1690
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 4: Tim writes in quick question. It might be a stupid one,

1691
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 4: but any chants we should maybe go after via the

1692
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 4: defensive tackle from Tampa Bay, I feel like with Baker

1693
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 4: Mayfield now is just starting quarterback, Tampa is about to

1694
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 4: go down the drain.

1695
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 6: So let's get rid of our good players that he's

1696
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 6: really good.

1697
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 4: Talk about stowing.

1698
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 8: Not available, not available. We haven't even talked about the

1699
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 8: offense or her mac first hour in the show.

1700
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Josh says, longtime listener love the show.

1701
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: Evan has been a spectacular edition.

1702
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 6: Spectacular splashing of the Packers is top not I just

1703
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 6: wanted to ask if you know whether Tom Brady Day

1704
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 6: will be televised or live stream.

1705
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 4: I doubt I'll be able to make it up, but

1706
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 4: would love to see the tribute. We are going to

1707
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 4: stream the halftime, yeah, live so, but we don't know

1708
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 4: what it is. We don't know what it is, but

1709
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 4: it'll be on Patriots dot com.

1710
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 6: So is that it's probably an off air thing like

1711
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 6: in the weeds, like that's allowed, Like I have.

1712
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 4: To get special permission to do that, which I did, But.

1713
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 6: It wasn't as dumb at question as I thought it was.

1714
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, come on, yeah, halftime, Sure, let's see Steve

1715
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 4: from Rancho Cucamonga. Would less than three weeks away start

1716
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 4: to countdown any status update on Thornton? Is it significant

1717
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 4: enough to impact the spot on the roster? Will this

1718
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 4: injury possibly drive Bill to keep six receivers on the

1719
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 4: roster with the emergence of Douglas and Boudet. We talked

1720
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 4: about that at the beginning of the show, and most

1721
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 4: everybody says they probably will be six receivers on the

1722
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 4: He's on the roster, I mean late Cunningham won't be

1723
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 4: one of them.

1724
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 6: I don't think you will be. I like someone asked

1725
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 6: in the mail bag today, I want to keep Booty

1726
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 6: and Cunningham, but I don't see how.

1727
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: They gave him a couple opportunities in this game and

1728
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 4: he didn't farewell over five.

1729
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, he's not a receiver, Yeah right, I just

1730
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 8: can we stop the ruse with him playing receiver? Please?

1731
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 6: But I think what Bill's trying to do is say

1732
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 6: I can use them as a backup receiver. I can

1733
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 6: see if I can get a role for him on

1734
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 6: special teams, and if I can substantiate the roster spot

1735
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 6: that way, then I can always do this thing. But

1736
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 6: I'm more interested in just trying to develop him as

1737
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 6: a quarterback if anything's there.

1738
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had a lot of emails about the show

1739
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 4: within a show, mixed reviews.

1740
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 6: I would agree with Matt.

1741
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 4: Where are we with that? What's what's what's the status

1742
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: of show within a show?

1743
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 3: We got another one coming up Thursday. People will be

1744
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: getting T shirts given away, so listening so it's going

1745
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: to be live, will not be live. What's gonna happen

1746
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: is Matisa is gonna record it Thursday morning and then

1747
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 3: put people can email in when they listen and give

1748
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 3: the answers, and if they get the correct answers, I'll

1749
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: email them send them the shirts.

1750
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 4: Okay, So but they can't email in now, right, So

1751
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 4: it'll be time. So the email has to come in

1752
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 4: within the time that the show within a show is

1753
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,919
Speaker 4: being broadcast, correct, right, So don't try to gain Yeah,

1754
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 4: don't try to gain the system and start emailing for

1755
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 4: your T shirt now.

1756
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know a bunch you did last week sending

1757
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 3: addresses and y'all got T shirts. What about the subject matter? Uh,

1758
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 3: it can be random. This Thursday will be more football.

1759
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 6: Why don't you give them some topics for I think

1760
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 6: I know one.

1761
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: I think I know what it is. I don't know

1762
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 1: if I can if I should reveal it, Matt.

1763
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 6: I should not reveal it. That'd be a surprise, all right.

1764
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, show within a show.

1765
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: It's football.

1766
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Some people liked it, some people didn't like it.

1767
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and were thirty five enjoyed it.

1768
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 6: I was just gonna Those that didn't like it evidently

1769
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 6: were referred to as olds. I did not listen to it,

1770
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 6: so I can't give you a judging from the email

1771
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 6: the olds didn't like it.

1772
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 4: I think it was a mix. I don't think you

1773
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 4: can paint with a broad brush on who liked it.

1774
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,839
Speaker 1: And we gotta like, you gotta go to the ratings

1775
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: and see what could you see? Like did it hold

1776
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: us like like our traffic? Did it hold our lead listeners?

1777
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: Did listeners tune out? How many listeners did it lose?

1778
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: How many listeners came back when we came back?

1779
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 8: You know, let's get the Nielsen get down.

1780
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: In the Nielsen ratings here, what do they call them audio.

1781
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: Is it something else?

1782
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 6: Maybe the ratings, let's call it Nielsen.

1783
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 4: Just the at you look at you look at the

1784
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 4: stream bank effect, you look at the stream band. How

1785
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 4: many concurrent users are on the show at any given time,

1786
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 4: you know, let's see Alex right in he's in Raleigh.

1787
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 4: Wanted to point out a funny observation. The Patriots posted

1788
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 4: the video of Bill talking about Taylor Swift and his

1789
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 4: side profile with the headphones on. Looks like Fred, it

1790
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 4: was a wild photo and leads me to a question,

1791
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 4: freddie in Belichick long lost siblings. Well, you know we

1792
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 4: both have that that Eastern European blood, so that could be,

1793
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 4: you know, part of it.

1794
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: But you know, he was sitting in your chair, though,

1795
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:38,879
Speaker 1: I think I think Old.

1796
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 4: And Krusty would be the the resemblance chair.

1797
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 6: I think so. I think no, Matt saying in Fred's chair.

1798
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 4: On to the Patriots. I saw from Mike Reese that

1799
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 4: Mapu may play some against the Titans. But has there

1800
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 4: been anything from his limited participation in practice that can

1801
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 4: lead the crew to believe that he'll be an exciting

1802
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 4: prospect this season? Or does seeing him in an actual

1803
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 4: game against another NFL team have to happen first.

1804
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he did light up Tucker Craft, and

1805
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: I think Tucker Craft got hurt. I heard it, heard

1806
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: the reaction had like Carl Davis standing in front of

1807
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: me at the precise place where it hit.

1808
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,480
Speaker 6: But the next time you guys go to joint practices

1809
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 6: and you take the offense, and can you get someone

1810
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 6: else to take the defense, might be able to see

1811
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,759
Speaker 6: what happens anything. I haven't told me everything that happened

1812
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 6: on offense. It was hard to tell with the Left.

1813
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 1: Guard album on that on that second rep that the

1814
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: Left Guard, I mean he blew his blocking.

1815
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 6: Those those those practices are overwhelming. Everything is happening so fast.

1816
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: With the music, like because we've been joint practices and

1817
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: I just have never been where it's like you're at

1818
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: a It was like it was a college concert. Like

1819
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: it felt like I was at a college party with

1820
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: like a DJ like that kind of playlist, like.

1821
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 6: Just Fred n Fred and I were joking, and it

1822
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 6: was legitimately joking because I know I've covered a million

1823
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 6: of those. They're really hard to track everything. You could

1824
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 6: have found anything you wanted off of the Wednesday practice

1825
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,799
Speaker 6: if you just read enough different people's summations of Wednesday's practice,

1826
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 6: you could have found that the Patriots won the Super

1827
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 6: Bowl or are they going to get relegated to the

1828
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 6: D League? You know, in anything in between.

1829
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 8: Thursday was a little more line than you would have

1830
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 8: been right.

1831
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 6: Thursday was a little more universal. Everybody felt the Patriots

1832
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 6: played well on Thursday. Wednesday. I think most people felt

1833
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 6: green Bay played well. Yeah, but like I said, it

1834
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 6: was all over the map.

1835
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 4: It would seen that real time, you know, anywhere from

1836
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 4: two hours and twenty minutes.

1837
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 6: Over the hours it we got the official time on

1838
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 6: our We actually asked the Pete Dougherty, I think from

1839
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 6: the Green Bay Press Gazette. Nice, look at me, give

1840
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 6: me and my bigthing. That give me and my big

1841
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 6: Green Bay Press Gazette two hours and twenty seven minutes.

1842
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 6: He had a clock down too, which is exactly what

1843
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 6: Mike Reese.

1844
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 8: It's okay, place stuck in nineteen sixty.

1845
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, but.

1846
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:59,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought day one, green Bay landed the Haymaker.

1847
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 8: I wouldn't necessarily say that they they were so much

1848
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 8: better than the Patriots, but they made the big plays.

1849
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 8: Christian Watson obviously catching the big touchdown was was the

1850
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 8: highlight of the week for Green Bay. But I felt

1851
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 8: like on Day two the Patriots really controlled play from

1852
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,839
Speaker 8: from most of the practice on both sides of the football.

1853
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 8: So I don't know, I'm not I don't really like

1854
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 8: I hate that question, like who won the day?

1855
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like I don't know, I just you know,

1856
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 6: like the summations of the practices vary greatly from individual person,

1857
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 6: and that's like I joke around about it, but that's why,

1858
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 6: because it's hard to see everything, and you know, like

1859
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,440
Speaker 6: someone who felt like the Patriots were better on Wednesday

1860
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 6: may have missed like two of the quote unquote Haymakers

1861
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 6: that Evan's talking about that green Bay had, Yeah, do

1862
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And then conversely, on Thursday,

1863
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 6: you might have thought it was better because you just

1864
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 6: heard that well green Bay had a couple of touchdowns,

1865
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 6: not realizing that one of them like deflected off of

1866
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 6: Patriots defense to back right to a guy at the

1867
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 6: edge like that dis about it. But you know what,

1868
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 6: but you know what I mean, Like if you missed

1869
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 6: certain plays or missing context of certain plays, you can

1870
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 6: have a drastically different.

1871
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 8: Or you could just be wrong.

1872
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that too. We'll get to that off.

1873
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 4: Here because you know whoever, let's just get off the

1874
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 4: Patriots for a second and go into NFL stuff. What's

1875
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 4: this whole thing with Stephen A. Smith saying he has

1876
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 4: definitive sources that says that, uh, Stefan Diggs is not

1877
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 4: happy in Buffalo, And I know Stefan Diggs has said

1878
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 4: that's not true.

1879
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, he's a liar.

1880
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 8: Who's a liar trying to make just kidding.

1881
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 6: I mean, I know that Diggs is unhappy, but I

1882
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 6: have not heard anything about steven A. Smith.

1883
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 8: The only thing that Stefan Diggs has openly said that

1884
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 8: he's unhappy with is that he doesn't necessarily feel like

1885
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 8: the urgency in the building is matching the talent that

1886
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 8: they have in the building. You know, I think he

1887
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 8: feels like we should be winning the Super Bowl, like,

1888
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 8: if not last year, definitely this year. And I don't

1889
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 8: think he feels that.

1890
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 4: According to Steven A and he claims that he has

1891
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 4: solid sources.

1892
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 8: I'm sure he does.

1893
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 4: That Diggs is feels that they've missed the window and

1894
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 4: that he wants to get out.

1895
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 6: Wow, Okay, I have not heard. I have not heard

1896
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 6: Steven A. Smith, But good for him. The stuff around Diggs,

1897
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 6: I've heard like, there's definitely been some.

1898
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: Diggs has since tweeted one hundred percent not true.

1899
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know who the source is, but I thought

1900
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 3: I nipped this s in the butt already.

1901
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised that he did that. Yeah, he has to, right,

1902
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 8: he's going to be there. I mean, that's going to

1903
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 8: be there this year. So yeah, like he has thirty

1904
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 8: million dollars of dead money if he's cut or traded,

1905
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 8: so he's not going anywhere. Like he's going to be

1906
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 8: a bill.

1907
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor looks like he's asking to be traded. And

1908
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,879
Speaker 4: I heard Miami is interested as a expressed interest.

1909
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard Miami. I heard, uh, possibly Dallas heard

1910
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 6: some some of those teams. I don't know where he'll

1911
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 6: end up, but it certainly sounds like he's gonna end

1912
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 6: up somewhere, Yeah, other than Indy, but a bizarre Thats

1913
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 6: so bizarre.

1914
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 8: So he's they don't want to pay him market value,

1915
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 8: but they're expecting a team to trade a first round

1916
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 8: pick and pay him market value, but they don't see

1917
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 8: him being worth it. So I just don't understand where

1918
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 8: the logic is that they think that they're gonna get

1919
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 8: anything in the trade, not to mention that like him

1920
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 8: and Anthony Richardson in the backfield together actually gives Anthony

1921
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 8: Richardson a chance as a rookie to be decent. So

1922
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 8: I just I don't really understand.

1923
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 6: Like you would think that Indy would step and step

1924
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 6: forward and say, look, here's a couple extra million. We

1925
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 6: need you, we need you with this kid to help

1926
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 6: him out. And then I assume this is the last

1927
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 6: year of the deal probably so you know, then if

1928
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna be a free agent, if we

1929
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,919
Speaker 6: can't come to a country, you know, we won't franchise

1930
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 6: you have to Yeah, I would say, well, well, we'll

1931
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 6: grant you a trade after the season's over, but we

1932
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 6: you know we can give you. Well, wet your beak

1933
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 6: a little bit right now. You got to help the kid.

1934
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 6: Give the kid the best chance that he can he

1935
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 6: can have, uh to succeed.

1936
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 8: The only argument was last year. The only argument is

1937
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 8: that they don't want to win. That that that's that's

1938
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 8: the only why would you not want to win? Like

1939
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 8: and I understand it's it's I understand the question you're asking.

1940
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 6: I'm not saying, but like you just drafted a quarterback

1941
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 6: with the fourth overall pick.

1942
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: Well, there was another report some guy that covers the

1943
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 4: Colts and I this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard,

1944
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 4: says they're going to tank. And the questions asked him

1945
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 4: was why because they want to get Marvin Harrison Junior.

1946
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 6: It's like, really, they don't have to tank to do that. Yeah, no,

1947
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 6: is he gonna go number one overall?

1948
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 8: Number two?

1949
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 6: Okay, so they very much they could play as hard

1950
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 6: as they want to and possibly get the second. Like

1951
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 6: that's not a good team.

1952
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's possible.

1953
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: But I gotta say, lose our game. I don't care

1954
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: what they do.

1955
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 6: Like, the Colts are not gonna win a lot of

1956
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 6: games with a kid who played one year of college

1957
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 6: football and was considered one of the most raw prospects

1958
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 6: coming out. I think he has talent, no question. But

1959
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 6: you think they're gonna win more than four games? I

1960
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 6: can't see that.

1961
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 8: So there's maybe a scenario where Marvin Harrison Junior goes three,

1962
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 8: if Drake may from UNC has a good.

1963
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 6: Four wins get you in the top three. Yeah, I mean,

1964
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 6: no one's gonna I mean I shouldn't say no, one.

1965
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 6: It's happened before, but like, yeah, I don't expect someone

1966
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 6: going like one in sixteen or oer for like Cleveland

1967
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 6: did and Detroit did in the past. Yeah, every I mean,

1968
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 6: what was it last year? Like three three wins was

1969
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 6: the number one pick? Right the Bears? Right, I think

1970
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 6: three wins was the number one pick. Yeah, so they're

1971
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 6: not gonna win many that. I can't see them winning

1972
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 6: more than five.

1973
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's also fair to want Marvin Harrison Junior.

1974
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 6: No anyone watched the is that worth tanking for? By

1975
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 6: the way, a wide receiver?

1976
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, but they have like a personal he's he's

1977
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: generation all the wrong.

1978
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 8: You throw that word around a lot, like like too

1979
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 8: easy sometimes, But Marvin Harrison Junior is a generational wide

1980
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 8: receiver prospect.

1981
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 4: So best wide receiver prospects since Megatron?

1982
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:27,799
Speaker 8: Wow, sint Calvin?

1983
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow, that's that's saying a lot.

1984
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 8: I mean, he can run, he can get open at

1985
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 8: the top of the route. He's like six ' three,

1986
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 8: he would imagine like Marvin Harrison, but bigger and faster

1987
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 8: and faster.

1988
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 4: Wow.

1989
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he's every bit as good as you think.

1990
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 4: M okay uh that's what I heard and has anyone

1991
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 4: seen the last episode of Hard Knocks.

1992
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 6: No, the only one watching Hard Knocks.

1993
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 4: I only saw the first episode.

1994
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 6: How was it.

1995
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: I haven't really heard anything.

1996
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 4: There's been no buzz We talked about it extensive on

1997
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 4: this show. There's been no buzzah, not.

1998
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Even any like I haven't seen any good like Twitter.

1999
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 6: But they didn't. I mean there was no way they couldn't.

2000
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 6: They weren't with them until like camp started, Like so

2001
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 6: even there's no background, there's nothing.

2002
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. All I know is that their close. Their coaches

2003
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 4: are too roller coastery up and down. Yeah.

2004
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean I did see one clip of Salah laying them,

2005
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: laying them out about the offensive line and like changing

2006
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: the culture with the offense. I thought was fine. But

2007
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: it's that stuff.

2008
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 8: It's performative.

2009
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's the well the defensive coordinator is the

2010
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 6: definition of that.

2011
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 4: Uh Claire, Hello everyone, She says, I love you guys,

2012
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 4: I do. But two tight ends with Gaseki nursing an injury,

2013
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 4: very audible gas here talking about our project.

2014
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's it's about the players.

2015
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: I think it's just like kind of the economics of

2016
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: the roster and do you feel like you could get

2017
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: I almost called them Mount Lacosse right there. Do you

2018
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: think you could, you know, get Ferkser and those guys

2019
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: And what's this face? Socle through the practice probably like

2020
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: like I'm really too worried about it.

2021
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 8: Nobody's knocking down the door for Matt.

2022
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, And.

2023
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 6: The situation there is, like I understand you need to

2024
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 6: have a certain amount of players at positions, but if

2025
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 6: you think Booty is a much better player than Socol,

2026
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 6: that to me has to be a decision maker, you know.

2027
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 6: Now if it's close and we have depth at this

2028
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 6: spot and none at this spot. Now, I don't think

2029
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 6: they have great depth. I think they have a lot

2030
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 6: of similar players at wide receivers. So if you want

2031
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 6: to take six and then figure out which three are

2032
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 6: going to emerge as you know, consistent playmakers, and then

2033
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 6: you play with your roster after that, it might be

2034
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 6: a lot easier to get somebody to the practice squad

2035
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 6: in the middle of the year too, you know, like

2036
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 6: right now everybody's looking at everybody, you have a chance

2037
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 6: to work, you know. It's in other words, if the

2038
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 6: Patriots cut Booty, now you might say, well this, you know,

2039
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 6: I don't know fifteen hundred players that are going to

2040
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 6: be cut. Yeah, right, so that makes it easier. But

2041
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 6: other teams look at it and say, I had my

2042
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,560
Speaker 6: eye on him. Now I can get him at the

2043
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 6: start of the season to work with him the whole year,

2044
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 6: as opposed to like in week four, if Taekwon Thornton

2045
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 6: comes off ir and you want to try to cut Booty,

2046
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 6: you might have a shot. Like they might say, well,

2047
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 6: we're already into it now, I don't want to invest

2048
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 6: the time into him. And then if you claim him

2049
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 6: at that time, he has to come on your roster.

2050
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 6: You know, at the beginning of the year, you might say,

2051
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 6: let's see what what do he have? Patriots have done

2052
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 6: that many times. They've claimed a lot of players off

2053
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 6: waivers at that time of year over the years, and

2054
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 6: most of those guys don't end up sticking around.

2055
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. One more thought I wanted to share too. On

2056
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: the film. I've just reminded that Hunter Henry is just

2057
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: not a great blocker, and I think it's something they

2058
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: got to work around, and it's it's just something I

2059
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: think it's something they have to work around on offense.

2060
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: Like I think it's it's it's an issue I I

2061
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, I just found myself kind of still longing

2062
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: for Can we just get back to a tight end

2063
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: who maybe you know, brings a little bit more juice

2064
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: than that.

2065
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 8: Can we just get we just really need nineteen seventy

2066
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 8: five to come back. I guess that's what we're saying.

2067
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 8: I'm just kidding.

2068
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, but no, And like I look, I like KASICKI

2069
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: is what he is.

2070
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 11: Like.

2071
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I just I just don't like tight ends that are

2072
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: stuck in the middle. And he's not really giving you

2073
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: a plus in the passing game. He's not really giving

2074
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: you a plus in the in the running game. He's

2075
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: just kind of okay at both, maybe a little bit

2076
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: subpar at blocking.

2077
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 6: And you know, just there's times.

2078
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: Where it feels like they're gonna they're gonna get a

2079
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: bunch of plays blown up this year because he can't.

2080
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 6: He can't.

2081
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 5: They don't.

2082
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't have a blocking tight end because I

2083
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 6: think that's safe to say.

2084
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 8: But I don't think that's a major concern for Bill O'Brien.

2085
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 8: I think he won if it was up It's not

2086
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 8: for me. If it was up to Billy. Oh, I

2087
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 8: think you're throwing the ball sixty sixty five percent of

2088
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 8: the time anyways, But I think Hunter Henry's better than

2089
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,799
Speaker 8: an Okay receiver. I think that's being a little bit harsh.

2090
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I think he's a little better than Okay.

2091
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he's a pretty good receiving tight.

2092
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 4: Enda Kenny says, I live in Nashville with season tickets

2093
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 4: for the Titans, but I was born and raised in Boston,

2094
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 4: so I'm a die hod New England fan. When I

2095
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 4: saw the Patriots were playing in Nashville, pre I was

2096
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 4: so excited to see my team. I haven't seen play

2097
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 4: in person since twenty twelve, where Tim Tebow and the

2098
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 4: Broncos got crushed by our boys forty five to ten. Obviously,

2099
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,759
Speaker 4: things have changed in the last week with the Isaiah

2100
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 4: Bolden situation. Is it selfish of me to say I

2101
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 4: want to see our starter is playing on Friday night?

2102
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 4: So my question is, do you guys think the Patriots

2103
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 4: play this start is to start the game like our

2104
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 4: last few, or even not play the game.

2105
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 8: I think they'll play, Yeah, I think they'll play any

2106
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 8: also without the.

2107
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 4: Joints, yeah, I think the will as well. He also

2108
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 4: wants to know, do you think that there'll be an

2109
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 4: effort to, you know, make sure that Hopkins doesn't do

2110
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 4: anything to you.

2111
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 6: Know, No, No, I have a I don't think is

2112
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 6: going to play much. Take them out before the game

2113
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 6: or something else.

2114
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 8: I have two questions for the panel, both about the offense,

2115
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 8: because we haven't really talked much about the offense. At

2116
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 8: number one, do you guys find it odd that tomorrow

2117
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 8: Douglas is it not playing?

2118
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:54,799
Speaker 6: Yes?

2119
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, because if you think he's good, then you're not

2120
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 8: cutting him. So they're literally hiding him for like, because

2121
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 8: they don't want to show how great this six round piches.

2122
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 6: I didn't imagine that as a rookie sixth round pick,

2123
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 6: he can't benefit from more reps he's.

2124
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 8: Got to play.

2125
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Do you have a pul could you read off of

2126
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: your sheet there?

2127
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 6: How many he played?

2128
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 8: Three? How did he do three snaps three this week?

2129
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 13: Ye?

2130
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 6: Two?

2131
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,759
Speaker 8: So he ran two routes, two catches and he blocked

2132
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 8: once for Kevin Harrison.

2133
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: I mean it makes you think he's one hundred and

2134
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: twenty catches this year because how did he do in

2135
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the joint though?

2136
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 6: Good?

2137
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, But the problem that I see with him in

2138
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 8: it right now is that he's catching a lot.

2139
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 6: Of passes from Zappy in the joint. Yeah, and just

2140
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 6: in practice. And that's what I meant, like, I can't

2141
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 6: The short answer to your question is yes, I find

2142
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 6: it odd. Yeah, I can't imagine that a young guy

2143
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 6: wouldn't stand to benefit from more reps with Mac Jones.

2144
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 6: Now they're only going to play fifteen somewhere between twelve

2145
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 6: fifteen twenty Max snaps, So why wouldn't you have him

2146
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 6: out there for at least half of them if you

2147
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 6: think he's going to be of what you want to do?

2148
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Is it?

2149
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 4: I mean subterfuge.

2150
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 8: It's like the only the only argument is is that

2151
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 8: he is so freaking good and they don't want to

2152
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 8: show the rest of the league how good he is yet.

2153
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 8: But I think he's good. I haven't seen. I haven't seen.

2154
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 8: I'm not talking like you know a lot of people say, oh, well,

2155
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 8: like Antonio Brown went late and ended up being Antonio

2156
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 8: Brown and like stuff like that, and it's just like,

2157
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 8: I don't know, I'm not necessarily seeing that. And also

2158
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 8: took to Antonio Brown a couple of years until he

2159
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 8: was really good.

2160
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 4: He was just usage, like how they use him. We

2161
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 4: don't want to put that on tape.

2162
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's bizarre, but that's fine. If you

2163
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 6: don't want to throw him the ball, that's okay. Like

2164
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 6: that I can get now. I still think that he

2165
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 6: would benefit more from throwing him the ball, Like if

2166
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 6: you think he's going to be a secret weapon, he'd

2167
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,919
Speaker 6: be a better secret weapon if he had more experience

2168
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 6: catching the pass from.

2169
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 4: And he's not secret anymore, but he'd.

2170
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 6: Be better, is my point. Like, you cannot tell me

2171
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 6: that he is so good that he doesn't need practice. Yeah,

2172
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 6: it was Dad.

2173
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 8: I can't because they even though it was was relative

2174
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 8: like everything that they ran with mac on on Saturday

2175
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 8: night was like Bill O'Brien day one install, like they

2176
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 8: were running all of his like basic core concepts, but

2177
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 8: it wasn't very watered down, Like it wasn't like they

2178
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 8: weren't doing anything. I mean they ran three RPOs, they

2179
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 8: ran two empty sets, they ran under center play action

2180
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 8: like they were running plays like it wasn't, you know.

2181
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 6: Completely like the postgame show we finally got one.

2182
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 8: It wasn't like high school right, like they were in

2183
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 8: high school like level scheme, like they were running some real,

2184
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 8: real stuff. But to Mario Douglas can't play. Yeah, and

2185
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 8: it's what did you can?

2186
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 6: I ask you what your thoughts were on the third

2187
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 6: down conversion that he caught. Looked like he looked like

2188
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 6: he recognized zone, yes, and wisely stopped.

2189
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2190
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 6: Now, I thought Max should have put the ball on him. Now,

2191
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 6: you can't lead him because then that's a hospital ball, right,

2192
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 6: But I don't necessarily like the fact that it was

2193
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 6: behind him. Now, so do you think that was just

2194
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 6: a good adjust by.

2195
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 8: Both I think that Douglas should have sat it down more.

2196
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 6: Okay, So.

2197
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 8: That's called tulane. It's Bill O'Brien Day one playbook type

2198
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 8: of stuff, and it's an option route. He has a

2199
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 8: six yard option route, so it can break inside or

2200
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 8: outside against maner can sit it against zone. I thought

2201
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 8: he kind of kept running a little bit, all right,

2202
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 8: and I think Mac thought that he was just gonna

2203
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 8: sit right down, and he kept kind of continuing into

2204
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 8: the middle of the field.

2205
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 6: I liked that play, and that's kind of what I'm

2206
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 6: talking about. You can't tell me he can't benefit from

2207
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 6: the experience of that play, say, five times over these

2208
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 6: three games, as opposed to once.

2209
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 4: Right, it's weird.

2210
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2211
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just in the middle of they want to

2212
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: get a look at the starters, and you know he's

2213
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna They know he's going to be the fourth or

2214
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: fifth receiver, kind of as the slot, and you know,

2215
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: when they're running their main stuff. We didn't really get

2216
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: into the four or five, you know.

2217
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 4: So they always say two guys for every position. Who's

2218
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 4: the guy in front of him?

2219
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 8: Juju, ju Ju or Kendrick Born?

2220
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah or well, okay.

2221
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: But I think that the top two are going to

2222
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 1: be Parker and Juju. If there's two receivers out there,

2223
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: those are the two guys, and then it goes from there.

2224
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 4: I just I and you think our slot receiver is Juju.

2225
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when third guy comes on, Juju's slide inside,

2226
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: and when they need a fourth guy, it'll be it'll

2227
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: be Douglas.

2228
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 8: I'm not I'm a little concerned about Juju, not not

2229
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 8: overly concerned.

2230
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 4: But do we have a guy. Do we have a

2231
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 4: guy that can move the sticks, the guy that when

2232
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 4: you need four yards on third down or six yards,

2233
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 4: like he's going to be dependable?

2234
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, Fred, I think you're you're hoping that

2235
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: Bourne continues to look like he did the other night.

2236
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,959
Speaker 1: I think it's born and you're hoping that that Juju

2237
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 1: is going to show more in terms of like breaking

2238
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: tackles than you know, I I'm with I think most

2239
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 1: people who have watched this have not been impressed with him,

2240
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, and.

2241
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 8: It doesn't have it doesn't have a lot of burst,

2242
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 8: not a lot of burst.

2243
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:51,839
Speaker 1: And you know, he's kind of big, he's a little stiff,

2244
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: and I mean, I think his game, which we saw

2245
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of is breaking tackles and taking

2246
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 1: you know, but that's that done show up in practice

2247
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: as much so. I but I think we're all kind

2248
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: of a little bit, like a little bit apprehensive about

2249
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do.

2250
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 6: I think one could be your guy Fred to replace

2251
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 6: Myers as the volume guy, the guy who gets the

2252
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 6: most targets.

2253
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think if you

2254
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 8: watch Mac, I think Hunter Henry on third down is

2255
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 8: easily the guy that he trusts the most. He looks

2256
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 8: at Hunter Henry a lot and in those types of situations.

2257
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,600
Speaker 8: And I'd also i'd throw Remandre in there too, like

2258
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 8: if it's if down in distance calls for it, that

2259
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 8: he can just work a linebacker with Ramandre, then I

2260
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 8: think that that will be another guy that will move

2261
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 8: the chains for them. But with Douglas, his quick twitch

2262
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 8: and like his quickness is clearly the best out of

2263
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 8: any of the receivers, and they just haven't had that

2264
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 8: skill set since Edelman was here. And I think he's

2265
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 8: gonna play a lot. I think that they're playing it

2266
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 8: close to the vest. The one thing that they're trying

2267
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 8: to keep under wraps is I think Douglas is going

2268
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 8: to be your third receiver in your primary slock guy

2269
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 8: in passing situation.

2270
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 6: He could be replacing Juju.

2271
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 8: You saying it's possible, I mean they're paying Juju.

2272
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't have a good answer, so

2273
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not here to shoot that down. I

2274
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 6: I kind of tend to lean the other way that

2275
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 6: they don't think he's quite ready, and then they're trying

2276
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 6: to get the other three. But but I don't have

2277
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 6: an argument for what Evan said, But looking.

2278
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 4: At who we have as wide receiver, the only guy

2279
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 4: who I see that can get open consistently on his own,

2280
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 4: not scheming, but can just beat a guy one on

2281
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 4: one with quickness is Douglas. Everyone else, I think they

2282
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 4: get to separation.

2283
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 6: Looks like I haven't seen Douglas do anything but run

2284
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 6: five yard routes across the field, Like I need to see.

2285
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 4: What if he can get open. That's great.

2286
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it doesn't really do it a whole lot

2287
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 6: like I think he will be something like I like

2288
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 6: his quickness. This was this was great. You know how

2289
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 6: you get the innocuous comments that you make on the

2290
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 6: radio or TV and it gets blown up the next day.

2291
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 6: I finally had a positive one to blow up for him.

2292
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 6: Yesterday I said, I think he's quick as l and

2293
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 6: I think he can play as a knockou This is

2294
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 6: nothing of comment, ever, I said nothing in like it

2295
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 6: blew up like everybody's like Patriots reporter, Hi, okay, better

2296
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 6: that way than what usually happens to me, you know,

2297
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 6: Parolo Colin Belichick on the way out everything. I taste that.

2298
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 6: So I was really happy about this, but like, I

2299
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 6: haven't seen that yet. I haven't like and for whatever reason,

2300
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 6: Bill doesn't want to play him. So maybe Evan's right.

2301
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 6: Maybe it's they know what he is, they know what

2302
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 6: he's gonna do, and they're just saving it.

2303
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 8: I just don't think anybody else, you know, there's so

2304
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 8: many underneath option routes in this offense, whether it's you know,

2305
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 8: the play he had on the third down on Saturday night,

2306
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 8: the juke series obviously in the middle of the field,

2307
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 8: and the only he is by far the best guy

2308
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 8: that to run those routes. Now, will he do it

2309
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 8: as a high a volume as an Edelman or a

2310
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 8: Welker or one of like, No, of course, not not

2311
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 8: out of the gate, but in terms of the guy

2312
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 8: that can you know, run a little juke rout over

2313
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 8: the middle and shake a linebacker like I don't think

2314
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 8: that they have a better guy for it.

2315
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 6: I agree with that.

2316
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, this one guy that we have. At least

2317
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 4: you might have talked about him before I got here,

2318
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 4: but I didn't hear it. Probably the start of the game.

2319
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 4: It's the punter barringer.

2320
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 6: Two boomers, two boomers.

2321
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 4: Sixty one in the air with a two yard return

2322
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 4: and because of the hangtime and.

2323
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 6: He's got to fight for the penalty, he's got to

2324
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 6: get consised.

2325
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the big thing. I mean, a couple

2326
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 1: of shanks when we were watching, and so I'm not

2327
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 1: sure what to expect. I think he needs another good

2328
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: night here not to say that. I really think it's

2329
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: still a competition, but I'm worried that he's going to

2330
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: be up and down.

2331
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 4: Would Nick Folk be a surprise cut, No, he'd be

2332
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 4: a cut yeah, and then he's not a surprise.

2333
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: And then it may be that you think you.

2334
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 6: Dropped a guy in the fourth round and you don't

2335
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 6: expect him to make the team.

2336
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2337
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 8: He's never cut a fourth round pick. Bill Okay, in

2338
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:02,839
Speaker 8: twenty five years.

2339
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 4: Can you put the kicker on yeah, Nick Folk?

2340
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 10: No?

2341
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 4: Can you put the kicker on the practice squad?

2342
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 8: My guess now, because he's had to pass through waivers,

2343
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 8: I'd risk Folk for that Folk, I don't think anybody would. Well,

2344
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 8: he's a best advantage.

2345
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 6: But if you if he passes through way, well, I

2346
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 6: think doesn't everybody have to go through waivers?

2347
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 2: Now?

2348
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 8: No, Nick Folk doesn't have to go through waivers anybody

2349
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 8: with four accrude seasons.

2350
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 6: But he has to get cut to go to the

2351
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 6: practice squad. Correct, so he can get cut, so it

2352
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,639
Speaker 6: has nothing to do with waivers. Someone could just sign.

2353
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 8: Him, correct he become a street free agent.

2354
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 6: That's would be the now. If you've talked to Nick Folk,

2355
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 6: he said, listen, this is what we're going to do.

2356
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 6: You know, maybe they don't, maybe they're not quite sure

2357
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 6: in Ryland, but they might play with the roster a

2358
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 6: little bit early in the year and have because what's

2359
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 6: the extra guy, Like you can bring a guy off

2360
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 6: the practice squad.

2361
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, at elevations, you know, maybe you.

2362
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 6: Want to maybe you want to kick, you know, I

2363
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 6: don't know, I don't I would doubt it. I would

2364
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 6: think he just goes and you don't have to put

2365
01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 6: him on the practice squad.

2366
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 4: But so, how does everyone feel about the kicking game?

2367
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 6: I'm fine with that game. Everybody else is generally fine

2368
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 6: until it until it until it kills you. But I think, yeah,

2369
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that the first time you're in.

2370
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 4: You're in.

2371
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 6: When you miss a field goal, well, you're going to

2372
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 6: miss him once in a while, I know. But what

2373
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 6: makes everyone, even justin Tucker misses once in a while.

2374
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 4: I know, but in a key situation, well in a.

2375
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Rookie, and I mean I think, you know, when it

2376
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: comes down to it, and hey, we need a good punter,

2377
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 1: we need a big field goal, Like you know it's

2378
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna be in the back of your mind. These are

2379
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: rookies who haven't been in this position before. I think

2380
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit you know, interested.

2381
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 8: Is it going to be in the back of your mind?

2382
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 8: We need it?

2383
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 4: Wow, these guys are so cavalier.

2384
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 6: That's why at some point you have to just put

2385
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 6: rip the band aid off. I mean, you can't just

2386
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 6: keep getting these guys in the draft and then saying

2387
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 6: that they don't work.

2388
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 4: And I'm just gauging your level of concern zero zero.

2389
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 6: I'll say one one scale of one to ten.

2390
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 8: Well, I think the biggest thing I can't say the

2391
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 8: biggest thing that why I'm not concerned about it is

2392
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 8: because I think the difference right now in Ryland and

2393
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 8: Nick Folk is like maybe two kicks a year that

2394
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 8: Folk might make that might not.

2395
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 6: I also think that that might get made up for

2396
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 6: the fact that Ryland can make him more consistently from range.

2397
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he can kick off, and.

2398
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 6: He can kick off, and I don't know, I like,

2399
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 6: we haven't really seen Barringer kick off, have we.

2400
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 8: No.

2401
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 6: Weightman has kicked off.

2402
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 8: A lot in practice a little bit, yeah.

2403
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 6: But I haven't seen bar So that's another thing to

2404
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 6: keep in mind.

2405
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 8: If Weightman will be on the practice squad because he's lefty.

2406
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they'll.

2407
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 8: Want him for when they go up against lefty punters.

2408
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,879
Speaker 6: You know who likes that, the returners. They like catching punts.

2409
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 8: From He's literally a scout team punter.

2410
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 6: It gives them a different look. Marcus Jones talked about

2411
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 6: it a little bit, Okay, a few weeks ago.

2412
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 4: Who's going to be a return Is it going to

2413
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 4: be Marcus Jones?

2414
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 6: I would think you brought up something that was on

2415
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 6: your mind. Yes, what do we make of Marcus Jones

2416
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 6: the other day not playing at all?

2417
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:00,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2418
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 8: I'm not sure what to make of Marcus Jones in

2419
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 8: general right now, because now that's a hot take. I

2420
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 8: I just don't know where he's gonna play like. I

2421
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 8: don't know if he's gonna play on defense. They I

2422
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 8: know you guys yelled at me when I said it.

2423
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 8: I am not impressed with him as a cornerback they had,

2424
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 8: so Jalen mill Is gonna play a lot YEP, Jalen

2425
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 8: mill Is gonna have a big role, whether you want

2426
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 8: to call it safety, slot, defender, whatever, He's gonna be

2427
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 8: on the field. And I know that every every Patriots

2428
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 8: fan always comes at me about Miles Bryant. Miles Bryant's

2429
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 8: had a pretty decent training camp and he plays some safety,

2430
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 8: he plays some corner. I don't like him in manning corner,

2431
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 8: you know, playing over the slot either, Like I fully

2432
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 8: am in agreement with that. But he's a savvy player

2433
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 8: for them as well. And if Jack situation stays on

2434
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 8: the straight and narrow, then it's gonna be Jack Jones,

2435
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 8: John Jones, and Gonzales.

2436
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 6: And I don't know if we said this, but Jonathan Jones.

2437
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 6: Karen Gregian had a tweet about Jonathan Jones recently, suggesting

2438
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 6: that they're monitoring him. He's projected to be ready to

2439
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 6: go for week one. He's been out for a while. Yeah,

2440
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,520
Speaker 6: he's missed probably ten practices at this point, ten twelve practices.

2441
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 6: So I trust Karen Gregian. I think that that's uh.

2442
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 8: He could be somebody that's powered with there today.

2443
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh do you have like information on that? No, Okay,

2444
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 6: he's like he looked at his phone and he's like

2445
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 6: he could be he could get someone out there today.

2446
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 4: Well, practice starts at one right, one ten, So Patriots

2447
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 4: dot Com, I'm sure we're going to have attendance after

2448
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 4: practice and so we'll update you on who is and

2449
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 4: who isn't out there. Rick and Dallas writes in should

2450
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 4: the Patriots be interested in a trade for Lael Collins?

2451
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 4: And if so, what would be a fair offer for him?

2452
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 4: He's up there?

2453
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 6: No, I would take it.

2454
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 4: I give him, I give a fourth three.

2455
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 6: Is he available?

2456
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 1: Is there a competent NFL tackle?

2457
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 6: Isn't Williams the one that's available?

2458
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 7: No?

2459
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,520
Speaker 8: Apparently their coaching staff praise Jonah Williams this morning.

2460
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 6: So that's why that's why we've moved to Layo Collins.

2461
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, the guy that might be available as the guy

2462
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 8: in Arizona, Josh Jones.

2463
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I have a question about that, Evan. You know,

2464
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 6: he knows the depth shots better than I do. So

2465
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 6: you're telling me one of the three worst teams in

2466
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 6: football has three qualities starting caliber tackles, yes and no,

2467
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 6: and they're looking to get rid of one of them.

2468
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 8: So they drafted Paris Johnson. Yeah, and he's gonna play

2469
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 8: left tackle. And Jones has been better on the left

2470
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 8: side than the right side, so right side he's not

2471
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 8: been very good.

2472
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 6: So I read about this a lot last night. That's

2473
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 6: the new flavor of the month right guy heading into

2474
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 6: his last year of his deal. You know, Monte Austin Fort.

2475
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 6: You know, with the Cardinals, you have obviously a relationship with,

2476
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 6: you know, make a deal. I'm all for it.

2477
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 8: He's a good left tackle.

2478
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 6: I'm absolutely in favor of it. I just can't imagine

2479
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 6: that the Cardinals, who don't have a lot of talent

2480
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 6: across the board. I saw one of the worst offensive

2481
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 6: lines I ever saw in that Monday night game last year. Now,

2482
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 6: admittedly they were all hurt that night, none of the

2483
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 6: quote unquote starters played, but I just that was the

2484
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 6: first thing I thought of it. So, this team of

2485
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 6: all teams has three tackles that are starting caliber. They

2486
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 6: might and they're gonna get rid of one who's on

2487
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 6: the last year of his rookie deal.

2488
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 8: DJ Humphries is the other one.

2489
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 6: But why wouldn't you just keep them all? Like someone's

2490
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 6: gonna get hurt. Yeah, he saw the last year of

2491
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 6: his rookie deal. What are you gonna get for him?

2492
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2493
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 6: He's like, you'll swim steel. Well, we'll give a sixth

2494
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 6: and they'll you know, we'll give a fourth, they'll give

2495
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 6: us a six we'll switch spots and we'll get, you know,

2496
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 6: like to get a little bit more than that. I'm

2497
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 6: all for it from the Patriots perspective for sure. If

2498
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 6: I were the Cardinals, I would say, these guys drop

2499
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 6: like flies. If he's that good, I'm gonna rely on

2500
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 6: a rookie to go seventeen games. He's gonna get hurt.

2501
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 6: I'll play him at left tackle when he gets hurt.

2502
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 8: So I guess right now, maybe.

2503
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 6: That's another team that doesn't want to win.

2504
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 8: So, so Humphries is a veteran DJ Humphries, Yeah, plays tackle,

2505
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 8: and they drafted Pairs Johnson and then Josh Jones is

2506
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 8: the third guy.

2507
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 6: So well, I was reading up on this last time.

2508
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Humphreys has played on the left side most

2509
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 8: of his career, but you didn't. You drafted Paris Johnson,

2510
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 8: what like fifth overall or something like he's gonna play

2511
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 8: left tack first.

2512
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 6: You're gonna play him. Yeah, that I totally understand, But like,

2513
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 6: I don't understand what's wrong with having three tackles, especially

2514
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 6: when you're talking about that the one that you want

2515
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 6: to trade is on the as I read it last night.

2516
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,560
Speaker 6: If this is incorrect, Yeah, last year of his rookie deal. Yeah,

2517
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 6: like that's cheap for a third tackle. I'll take that.

2518
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 4: Well.

2519
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 8: I think the question is is there's so many teams

2520
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 8: and I know we talk about it just the Patriots

2521
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 8: most of the time, but there are so many teams

2522
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 8: that need offensive line help. So if that actually does

2523
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 8: become a market for a guy like Josh Jones, who

2524
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 8: does have starting caliber tape in the NFL, then maybe

2525
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 8: you are getting a real asset.

2526
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 6: If you could get a real asset back, then I

2527
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 6: understand it from the Cardinals, I'm not sure you do

2528
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 6: at this stage, but maybe I don't know.

2529
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they will really just like I would tell him

2530
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: Anderson get out there and if if they're willing to

2531
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: try him at right tackle and if he you know,

2532
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 1: I know, Mike said, what could that have been?

2533
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 7: Though?

2534
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 1: I think it was non football like non.

2535
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 6: Not football illness, and we don't know what it was.

2536
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,520
Speaker 6: Mike has sort of indicated that he's close.

2537
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 4: Non football illness illness. What is a football illness?

2538
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 6: Non football illness?

2539
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,919
Speaker 4: I know, but what would be if it's a illness

2540
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 4: be non football And if I list I've heard of

2541
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 4: non football injury.

2542
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know this was I've gotten this confused all summer.

2543
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 6: It means. It means that you come into camp with

2544
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 6: something that had nothing to do with anything that happened

2545
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 6: when you're playing football.

2546
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 8: Correct, Like if you were to like catch covid, uh,

2547
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 8: you know, in the facility right during the season, then

2548
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 8: that would not be considered a non football illness because

2549
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 8: he was here.

2550
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 6: I just think it's a I never thought.

2551
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 4: I never thought there was a difference of illnesses.

2552
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 6: Okay, injuries, I got. The difference is you don't have

2553
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 6: to pay So if.

2554
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 4: It's during the season and I catch something from my kids,

2555
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 4: is that a non football injury, they don't have to

2556
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 4: pay me.

2557
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 1: Check with the lawyers on that one.

2558
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2559
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 4: I don't know that.

2560
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 8: I'm not never heard on this.

2561
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 6: You can't get on the non football illness list in

2562
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 6: the middle of the season, I don't think. So you

2563
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 6: have to start camp on those lists. Okay, I think, yeah,

2564
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 6: that's the difference.

2565
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 3: Players who report to training camp injured or due to illness.

2566
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 8: Right report all right, so you have to have it.

2567
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 6: So whatever it is, he's still sick right now. The

2568
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 6: difference between me more than even COVID. Just so you know,

2569
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 6: it's not sick. I mean it's got to be something

2570
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 6: like a blood clot issue or some kind of a

2571
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 6: heart murmured movie they found. I'm speculating wildly, but it's

2572
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 6: not COVID. You don't miss R six weeks with right.

2573
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 4: Rick also wants to know, are you guys ready to

2574
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 4: call the juju replacing Meyers offseason move a mistake? Would

2575
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 4: the Patriots be better off starting the season with Myers.

2576
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 8: I'm not ready.

2577
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 6: It's the same. Yeah, That's the way I felt about

2578
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 6: it when it happened, and it's the way I feel

2579
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 6: about it now. I kind of agree with the way

2580
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 6: Mike and Evan talk about it, like if Douglas can

2581
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 6: be this quick, shifty guy and Born can have a

2582
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 6: bigger role than he did last year, then that might

2583
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 6: be better than having Myers here, because if Myers were here,

2584
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 6: you know where the balls would be going, and you'd

2585
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:18,799
Speaker 6: sort of still be limited.

2586
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 4: Donnie and Pittsburgh Thousand agreed with what Evan said about

2587
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 4: the roster cuts. They should throw out whatever conventions and

2588
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 4: traditions are telling them not to keep an extra wide

2589
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 4: receiver or to find a role for Cunning Him players

2590
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 4: like him and Boute that will certainly not clear waivers

2591
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 4: should be prioritized over a third tight end or fears

2592
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 4: about the old line.

2593
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 6: Why is understood?

2594
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 4: Why is it that always our practice squad guys are

2595
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 4: better than everybody else's practice squad. Yeah?

2596
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 8: I would also, I would the whole notion that there's

2597
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 8: no way that Kishan Bouti clears waivers, like there's just

2598
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 8: no chance that that happened. Chance is kind of crazy

2599
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 8: because you have to people have to remember, you have

2600
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 8: to put him on your fifty three man roster. You

2601
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 8: can't claim him to put him on your practice squad, right,

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Speaker 8: So that means that you have to create an open

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Speaker 8: roster spot.

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Speaker 6: And I believe for three weeks.

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Speaker 8: And say that he is better than one of the

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Speaker 8: receivers that we currently have to open up that roster

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01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 8: spot to put kish On Booty on your football team.

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Speaker 8: And right now he has one catch in preseason that

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Speaker 8: was impressive.

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Speaker 1: And and what has Cunningham done too? Like Cunningham one

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01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 1: had one drive?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: Can I just go back to like because sometimes when

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01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 6: we say things, it gets characterized differently, Like I don't

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01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 6: think Evan is in favor of keeping cunning him as

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01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 6: a receiver. Is that wrong. No, he wasn't on the six,

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01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 6: and six is not an extra receiver. Seven would be

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01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 6: an extra receiver. They've kept four as few was four,

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01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 6: they've kept five and they've kept six. Right, And if

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01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 6: you know, you go way back when they first got

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01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 6: Slater and people counted them as a wide receiver, there

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01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 6: was a time that they kept seven, but Slater was

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Speaker 6: one of them.

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Speaker 8: The only difference is in the past when they keep six,

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Speaker 8: it's like for like a Gunner Oschefski, it's a guy

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01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 8: that really is projecting as a returner, and now like

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01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 8: Douglas can return. So I guess maybe you could make

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01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,759
Speaker 8: that case. But Marcus Jones is gonna be your punt returner,

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 8: I feel, And maybe one of those guys Booty or

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01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 8: Douglas factors isn't on kickoffs.

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Speaker 6: I suppose they've used both of them as returners throughout. Yeah,

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01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 6: oh yeah, they.

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Speaker 8: Can both return, especially Douglas, but I don't think that

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01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 8: they're gonna be your primary guy, Whereas Gunner made the

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01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 8: team in nineteen as the primary kick returner, like they

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01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 8: knew that that's what they were going to use him for.

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Speaker 6: And back to how the puzzles. The puzzle pieces fit together.

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01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 6: Isaiah Bolden's a guy that I think was there as

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01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 6: a kickoff return option, and I don't know what his

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01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 6: status is going to be moving forward, but that could

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01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 6: be in doubt now. So maybe you want to keep

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01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 6: another one of those receivers as an extra return guy too.

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01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. All right, well listen, that's gonna be it for

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01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 4: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 6: Really cut.

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01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 4: So, Matt, what is our schedule for Thursday? What are

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01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 4: we doing here?

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01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 5: Now?

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01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 6: We'll be on to Mike.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a very special guest one, Alex Barth

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01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: is going to join I believe and I so.

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01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 4: But Catch twenty two is going to be in the

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01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 4: morning on Thursday, right, Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Yeah,

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01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 4: so we're gonna have Catch twenty two in the morning.

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01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 4: Not sure the actual time yet, could could be a

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01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 4: little earlier depending on when the buses leave for Nashville.

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01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 4: Are for the plane for Nashville. But keep in touch

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01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 4: with Patriots dot Com will update you. We'll talk to

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01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 4: you on Thursday.

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