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Speaker 1: Welcome to good Game with Sarah Spain, where we can't

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Speaker 2: Becuz this just happened twenty.

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Speaker 1: Eight years in the May Games. Good New York Liberty

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Speaker 1: WA champions. That's right, the New York Liberty just won

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Speaker 1: the first WNBA championship in their franchise history and overtime

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Speaker 1: victory over the Minnesota Links in one of the most

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Speaker 2: Sixty two sixty.

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Speaker 1: Seven, the final score, How we got there, Who did what?

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Speaker 2: Why? We're gonna cry if you can scream.

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Speaker 1: All coming up next, and we're going to get to

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Speaker 1: the headlines and the news and everything else from the

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Speaker 1: weekend tomorrow. So when we come back, it's all Links

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Slices.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're hungover, exhausted, thrilled, disappointed, but

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Speaker 1: I try to keep it sober for the game, but

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Speaker 1: Misha and Alex are going to join me to talk

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Speaker 1: about everything that we just witnessed. We're coming to you

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Speaker 1: live at the time right after the podium ceremony. There's

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Speaker 1: probably going to be a ton of incredible quotes and

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Speaker 1: moments that come in the hours after we record this,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to all of that this week. I

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Speaker 1: hope we get some Liberty guests. I hope we get

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Speaker 1: some folks to talk about just what this means in

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Speaker 1: But let's start with two pretty incredible statistics from this one.

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Speaker 1: The New York Liberty won the first major championship for

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Speaker 1: first professional basketball championship for the city of New York

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Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: She Wow, this is pretty huge.

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Speaker 1: The next one May eighth, nineteen seventy and again Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: Nike ad Liberty has a nice ring to it with

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Speaker 1: a ring. They so quickly the ring on the statue

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Speaker 1: of how everybody played in all the different things.

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Speaker 2: Like Meiche, what's just your first reaction.

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Speaker 3: To what you just witnessed, Sarah, My heart is so

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Speaker 3: happy right now because I told y'all coming into this series,

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Speaker 3: But the other thing I really wanted out of this

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Speaker 3: money's worth. If you're in the arena, I want us

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Speaker 2: In more so, I'm just so happy.

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Speaker 3: For the entire pure basketball community because what we just

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Speaker 1: Well timed for the WNBA to have its best season

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Speaker 1: clutched moments for five games, all five games right within

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Speaker 2: Alex's first reaction.

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Speaker 4: And first time that a title deciding game ever went

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Speaker 4: to overtime in WNBA history pretty incredible. Uh oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: initial reaction. I feel like the Liberty both deserved it

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Speaker 4: for so many reasons and then did not deserve it

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Speaker 4: for so many reasons. Real so it feel so split

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Speaker 1: At the same time, I have to tell you a

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Speaker 1: But I'd like to see the Liberty finally, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I couldn't stop myself from being like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Which is exactly what happened.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't figure out why that was happening to me.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted it to be real close.

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Speaker 3: For me, it was like, I'm rooting for whoever's down

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Speaker 2: Doesn't even matter.

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Speaker 3: At one point, you know, people have been asking me

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Speaker 2: Who I want to win?

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Speaker 3: Who I want I'm like, at this point, I said

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Speaker 3: And the way the way that Minnesota played, you wanted

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Speaker 2: I think that's part of it. Yeah, because of how

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Speaker 3: I mean New York and Sandy Brondelo had to press

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Speaker 3: Fee the way she approached it as a leader for

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Speaker 2: First half they led.

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Speaker 3: You know, they went the way that she went because

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Speaker 3: she was unphased, and so it is her unfazed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think though on the other side

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Speaker 1: the Liberty for winning a game that they had no

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Speaker 1: We have given her all of her flowers all season

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Speaker 1: that being said, she owes that whole team beers for

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Speaker 1: When you shoot that poorly in a winner take all

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Speaker 4: Not even in a winner take all game. So I

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Speaker 4: went to across the timeline and ran the numbers. No

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Speaker 4: that had at least nineteen field gold attempts, field gold

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Speaker 4: her that. The closest was Arik Gunbawalle with an eight

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. I think Sabrina finished the night at something

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Speaker 2: Oh man, okay.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the beginning, but first

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Speaker 1: and feeling the joy from it, the scene around John

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Speaker 1: her when she was named MVP. This was her four

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Speaker 1: attempt at a WNBA Championship. Her teams came up short

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. She's

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Speaker 2: The journey that she's been on. You could feel all

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Speaker 1: In that moment, the way there was surprise and delight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you know, in that moment, for

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Speaker 1: I already got texts from people, Okay, we are going

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Speaker 1: up Riverdale Baptist stand up, George Washington University.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, but you know what tonight tonight. I was

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Speaker 2: So we're acting like honorary Bahamian. Honorary honorary tonight, all right.

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Speaker 3: one of the big reasons why JJ has gotten to

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Speaker 2: Shout out to her. Shout out to everybody who's ever

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Speaker 2: We're celebrating were going on tonight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to point out, you know, we

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Speaker 1: New Yorker. And interesting to look at such a diverse

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Speaker 1: team in the Liberty, Bahamians, Germans, right, this international conglomerate

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Speaker 2: I mean, these women from all over the globe are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's It's a beautiful thing to see. And I

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Speaker 2: And look at what the successes that they're reaping from it.

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Speaker 1: You just reminded me that game was so good. I

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Speaker 2: Good the game was. How are her puffer? How are

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Speaker 1: Codeaways to Ellie. I did not see her celebrating the trophy.

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Speaker 2: They tell Ellie, chill out tonight, they tell Ellie cool.

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Speaker 1: Out will I will not stand for Ellie Eraser at

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Speaker 4: I want to propose a new rule. So right now,

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Speaker 1: Okay, but only Ellie, because only trash mascots. And I

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Speaker 2: And I like that she talked about investment.

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Speaker 1: I like that she talked about watching this team grow

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Speaker 2: It keeps going up even though the building stays the same,

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Speaker 2: We're backslices and you're back too. Love that for us?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like I said, not a pretty game and for

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Speaker 1: They were tired. They were tight, especially through the first half.

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Speaker 1: And at the beginning it really looked like all it

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Speaker 2: Wow, Meshe, I want your answer to for me.

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Speaker 1: In the first half, especially the interior defense of the

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Speaker 2: That's what I saw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw a little bit of the same I

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Speaker 3: And once you do that time and time again over

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Speaker 1: Yes, we saw later in the game for the links,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was feeling confident or comfortable in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, New York just turned it up.

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Speaker 2: Period. Like you said, Niarisaboli, been talking about this girl

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Speaker 3: What did you do with Germany and the Olympics, y'all?

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Speaker 3: And then, like you said, Kayla Thornton, I do not

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Speaker 2: But let's start with Thornton.

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Speaker 3: But she dies for that basketball out of bounds, knocks

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Speaker 1: And what sucked was that there was no opportunity really

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, Smith deserves the world's biggest couch and

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00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: the world's biggest heating pad for the next two weeks

443
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: because you could tell, especially after that play with John

444
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 1: Quell where she hit the deck and didn't have her

445
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 1: arm available to cushion her fall, landed right on her spine,

446
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: was immediately in tears, and that was a big difference.

447
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: You just you talk about the bench being important. Corney

448
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: Vanderslud had three.

449
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: Minutes in this game. I was a three minutes of playing.

450
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they the balls, the ovaries, I should say the

451
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: ovaries on Sandy Brondello to say, you know what, I'm

452
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: gonna go with Niara SOBEI and Kayla Thornton, you know what,

453
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go big and guess what. In certain moments

454
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: in particular, that was huge because someone like Court Williams,

455
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: who wants to get hot and feeds off of getting hot,

456
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: was getting blocked into tomorrow because she could not hang

457
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: with the size. Natisha hid him and made some big plays.

458
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 1: Court made some big place but like they're trying to

459
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: play amongst the trees and New York is coming out

460
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: there with Sab being their shortest player and everybody else

461
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: like six to four and up, And you could do

462
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: that when you've got the kind of depth they had it.

463
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Links, I think they were tired and

464
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: then they didn't have anybody to come.

465
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: Off and be a spark.

466
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: There was no one coming off that bench that you said,

467
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: this is going to be a change maker if someone's

468
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: tired or injured.

469
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

470
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: And it's tough because we saw early minutes for Mayisha

471
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 3: heines Allen early on in this series, right, and so

472
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: between Dorka Uhas, between heinz Allen, I thought maybe there

473
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: was an opportunity to put heinz Allen in even though

474
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: she is still undersized.

475
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: You gotta mix it, you gotta do something right.

476
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: She's too slow for me, both of them, I think,

477
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: too slow for the style of play that was working

478
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: for the Links.

479
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: But for for Mayisha.

480
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: At least you got fouls you can use, right, And

481
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: what did it come down to at the end of

482
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 3: the game. Fee had five fouls, You had Bridget Carlton

483
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: with five fouls, because what are they both in there doing?

484
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: Battling with Finals MVP John Quell Jones, And if nothing else,

485
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: I would have just liked to see it because my USA,

486
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: I still got a little bit of DC Homerism, you know,

487
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: Erica la Ala and Black Rosy media already know I.

488
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 2: Find a way to make it about the mystics, Okay.

489
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: But it felt like there might have been maybe one

490
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: or two opportunities to get her in there, let her

491
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: at least bang use her body as opposed to Fee.

492
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just a tough situation. Both these

493
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: teams came into the series evenly matched. Folks. You can't

494
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: see my hands, but I mean I think the Liberty

495
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: were a better team. I've said this throughout.

496
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: It was a matter of strategy and who showed up,

497
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: and the Liberty on paper to me, are the super.

498
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Team on paper? Yes, okay, I'm glad the better team.

499
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: I think both way.

500
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: Minnesota was playing coming in that put them neck and neck.

501
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: In terms of actual performance, in terms of actually being

502
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: effective in the plays and the system and the way

503
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: the coaches called things up evenly matched, but the Liberty

504
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: should have been I think a more dominant team. But

505
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: listen the percentage shoot it for some of these stars

506
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: on for the series, not just tonight.

507
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: Woof.

508
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: Okay, we could be honest about this, Holly Roe said afterwards.

509
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: This is some of thost beautiful basketball we've ever seen.

510
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and mm hmm.

511
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Also some real turns in the punch bowl throughout this

512
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: series and in this game in particular.

513
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: I do want to while we're on the topic of turds.

514
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: I hate when there are moments of incredible excitement, enthusiasm,

515
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: celebration and we shit on them by talking about things

516
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: like officiating.

517
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about this game.

518
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: And not talk about how mostly throughout it felt like

519
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: New York was getting away with being more physical, but

520
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: especially down the stretch. Stewie made it from the three

521
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: point line to the free throw line without a single

522
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: dribble and then did not get fouled, and somehow there

523
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: was no travel call and there was a fowel call.

524
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Now it made for a better finish.

525
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: No one wanted the game to end with a travel

526
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: or we were sending the followl call give the ball.

527
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: You know that's not as fun. But man, we watched

528
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: that replan every time. I was like, we're calling this,

529
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: and then you didn't call any of the other stuff,

530
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: and you didn't call the travel, which was like a

531
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: five starter step if I were a Links fan.

532
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 4: Ooh mm hmm.

533
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: She traveled from from Barclays to her hometown in Syracuse

534
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: and back before she before she put that ball on

535
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: the floor. I have to say it, it is true,

536
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 3: but what I think happened there, and I'm glad actually

537
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: that it happened, because it wasn't just that call, but

538
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: a couple of calls down the stretch where I felt

539
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: like the referee team decided, we are not gonna be

540
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: the the topic of this game. We're not gonna be

541
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: the center of attention. We're not going to, like you said,

542
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: rescind a call.

543
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: How's that working out for him?

544
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

545
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cheryl Reeve has some thoughts on that.

546
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cheryl Reeve's gonna be like I should have been

547
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the one putting the bug in their ear after the

548
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: last because Sir felt like Sandy Brondello gave him a

549
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: talking to and then things went their way.

550
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: It did, I will say that it was looking real lopsided.

551
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I'll say this much in the overtime the links.

552
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: You know, I love Courtney Williams. I love that she

553
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: was feeling like she was going to get the job done.

554
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: But fobitch hits the three immediately, and then three misses

555
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: for court There's a lazy turnover for McBride that leads

556
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: to that Tobbaly breakaway. Now they're up five, and then

557
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: it was pretty much sixty five sixty for almost the

558
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: whole lot After that, people were not finding their way

559
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: to scoring. But I don't know about the common foul. Again,

560
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: a tough call, a tight call. I'm not saying it's wrong.

561
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: I think the calls on Brienna were wrong. I think

562
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: this was not a wrong call, but another tight call

563
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: that does.

564
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: Not go their way safe.

565
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Then fee gets frustrated on the lob pass turnover that

566
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: she felt she was getting pushed on. Sure looked like

567
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: there was a lot of contact there on her trying

568
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: to establish position. Now you've got spike on his knees

569
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: as we're coming down the stretch here, Basically he's all

570
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: of us. We're puking, we're peeing our pants, we're crying,

571
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: we're doing everything. He always has to make it about him,

572
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: and in this case it's funny to me, So I'm

573
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: okay with it.

574
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: My knees would have been hurting on that hard withek.

575
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: I know, right, yeah, right, I agree. Impressive. I guess

576
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: at his age to still be able to do that.

577
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: But then you've got a couple moments where you do

578
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: see that Sable's age and inexperience comes into play. She

579
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: gets a couple of fowls into pretty important moments. There's

580
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: the fowl after that McBride steel, but then the charge

581
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: where Carlton's got five fouls and boldly takes that charge

582
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: and they make.

583
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: The right call.

584
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: But then she comes right back and soably gets the

585
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: block on Fee the very next play to make up

586
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: for that, like this back and forth, and then good

587
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: lord if sabrina Inescu doesn't take two more shots to

588
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: get from one for seventeen to one for eighteen, and

589
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: then one for nineteen.

590
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: And then the final shot. There's a couple things.

591
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: For one Carlton misses before you even get to the

592
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: McBride one with fourteen seconds to play. And I watched

593
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: that replay multiple times and I said, good person, good shot,

594
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: good look. And yet you're coming out of a timeout

595
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: with that, and not a single person crashed the boards.

596
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: They all watched the shot, and there was a chance.

597
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: You had fourteen seconds on the clock.

598
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: There's a chance for you to get the ball, set

599
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: it up, get another shot, and instead Nafisa ends up

600
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: fouling out.

601
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: You know it. Just that kind of stuff is what

602
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: kills you.

603
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that made me mad too, Like Alex when you

604
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: see your star player running to foul, you still got

605
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: twelve however many seconds were left.

606
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: You see feet, she's got five fouls running to go foul.

607
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: You say, feet, get your work. Somebody else, somebody else.

608
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: And then on the not crashing the glass part, that

609
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: again is what fatigue.

610
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: It's fatigue and it's looking up.

611
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Please hit this, please shot And then you know McBride's shot.

612
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: There was more time left, you know that for that attempt.

613
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: I thought that was in regulation. It was a good look.

614
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: She just she had more time, and then we didn't

615
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: talk about this. This is the end of regulation. When McBride

616
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: had a couple more seconds, it could have set it up,

617
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: a good look at it, and then New York could

618
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: have called time.

619
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: You didn't.

620
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: So there's just the stakes in this game that are

621
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: just I think tired getting lost in the moment. Listen,

622
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: we have to talk about those calls, but the focus

623
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: needs to be on You won a title with two

624
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: of your best players poop in the bed. You won

625
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: a title with bench players stepping up in a moment

626
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: that they had absolutely no right to be so certain

627
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: and confident and secure during, and you won your first

628
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: title in history in front of an insane crowd. You

629
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: saw uswin Ca and T Spoon and T Spoon and

630
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Angel Reese. We saw one of our bosses, Laura Corenti,

631
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: who were definitely gonna mention as the founder and creator

632
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: of Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment, the mastermind behind the

633
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Iheartwomen's Sports audio network because we know where our cash,

634
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: our checks are cashed, and who invented this whole thing.

635
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Saw her court side next to Angel, Sue Bird, Megan Arpino.

636
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: They did the double double. They went to go see Kelly.

637
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: O'Hara in her final game being honored at Gotham and

638
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: then hustle the crosstown to get over there.

639
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Spike Lee, Jason Sadeikis.

640
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: You know all the regulars, Robin Roberts in the house,

641
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: common Jay Hudd, you know, the stars were out on

642
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: so Liberty Row.

643
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: And I'm excited for them.

644
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm excited for I hope will be a parade, will

645
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: be what I hope will be some cool you know, press.

646
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I want to see these players on all the late

647
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: night shows. I want to see them get the full

648
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: car wash as we call it in the business, going

649
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: to do all the different shows and interviews.

650
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: Misha, Who's going to be the star in.

651
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Your opinion of the partying slash victory tour footage that

652
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna get from this team.

653
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: The star? That's a tough question.

654
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean we remember, like US women's national team had

655
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: some breakout stars that were the ones. We're like, this

656
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: is who we know, we need to follow their insta live,

657
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: this is who's dancing on top of the bar and

658
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: do it.

659
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, I don't know who.

660
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: They've got a lot of cool characters on this team.

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Speaker 3: What I mean by that is like, even Q, I'm

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Speaker 3: not you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So, I think we're gonna get a little bit of

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Speaker 2: that Jackie.

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Speaker 3: Young esque kind of vibe where she doesn't usually say

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Speaker 3: too much, but now she's running her mouth because she

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Speaker 3: just won a championship. I think we're gonna get that

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Speaker 3: from JJ Stewie. Obviously Sab is probably the one who

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Speaker 3: already does kind of do a little bit of yapping.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, i'd say I'd say JJ and Stewie are

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Speaker 3: are talking reckless for the next for the next until

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Speaker 3: an unrivaled starts in the lock back in.

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Speaker 1: Alex Who you got being the breakout star of the

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Speaker 1: of the media coverage?

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, first I want to say this, I want

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Speaker 4: John Quell Jones to get all of her flowers because

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Speaker 4: we have seen far too many times in the history

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Speaker 4: of this league that black players, that gay players, and

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Speaker 4: players that are more masculine presenting don't get the love,

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Speaker 4: the respect, the pr that they deserve. And I want

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Speaker 4: to make sure she gets all of her flowers during

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Speaker 4: this title celebration. I also, you know, it's interesting when

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Speaker 4: when people have conversations about like the Links would have

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Speaker 4: become the first WNBA team to win five titles. The

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Speaker 4: Liberty one there first as a franchise, because there's also

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Speaker 4: such a difference between a player winning her first title

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Speaker 4: or their first title in a franchise.

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Speaker 2: Winning their first title, and.

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Speaker 4: So so even though the Links as a franchise were

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Speaker 4: going for their fifth title, only two players on that

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Speaker 4: team had previously won a title. Same is actually true

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Speaker 4: on the Liberty in terms of Courtney Vanderslut winning with

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Speaker 4: the Sky before stewing with Seattle twice. And so for

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Speaker 4: ten of these players, this is their first title, and

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Speaker 4: so I really hope that they're enjoying it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, the one thing I will say

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Speaker 1: is that you're right. It's an even split for both

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Speaker 1: teams in terms of the players currently on the team

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Speaker 1: getting their first But this was a win for every

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Speaker 1: player in Liberty history.

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Speaker 2: You want to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: The dynastic group that people think of with the Links.

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Speaker 1: If you're on the current team, you want to you

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Speaker 1: want to try to catch up to some of those players,

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Speaker 1: the Maya Moors and you know, Lindsay Whalin's that have

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Speaker 1: won all these titles.

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Speaker 2: But if you're a Liberty player, you feel like you were.

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Speaker 1: Carrying t Spoon and Rebecca Lobo and all these players

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Speaker 1: from the past on your back. And I have to

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Speaker 1: say I got to give props to Lobo for keeping

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Speaker 1: it pretty chill on the broadcast, because you know, she

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Speaker 1: was probably thinking.

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Speaker 2: To herself, we know we did it.

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Speaker 1: We did it, And I look forward to seeing some

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Speaker 1: of that celebration too. When you do get the monkey

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Speaker 1: off the back of a team twenty eight years in,

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Speaker 1: you get to be the ones that hold it up

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Speaker 1: for all the people that came before you, and that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean Rebecca, Yeah, she.

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Speaker 3: I would have been in tears had I been calling

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Speaker 3: that game, and had I lived the life that Rebecca

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Speaker 3: Lobo has lived, I would have been crying my eyes out.

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Speaker 3: Talk about somebody who was expected to be the person

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Speaker 3: to do this first right, the kind of pressure that

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Speaker 3: she felt. I don't know if y'all have seen the

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Speaker 3: doc about her playing for tar Vanderveer on Team USA

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Speaker 3: and all that that stuff that she had to do,

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Speaker 3: Like Rebecca Lobo went through the mud as a member

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Speaker 3: of the Liberty and her public facing basketball career and

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Speaker 3: then to be on the broadcast for a moment like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool, so cool. Oh my gosh, there's

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Speaker 1: so much to say about the same. Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: to take one more quick break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: More on the New York Liberty winning their first ever title,

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Speaker 1: Enfranchise History.

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Speaker 2: Come on back, okay, Welcome back, slices, Sarah.

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Speaker 4: I really want to talk about the spiciest moment of

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Speaker 4: the game. I think, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, do tell?

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Speaker 4: Right before the foul got called on, Brienna Stewart, sand

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Speaker 4: Brondello in the huddle was telling the players, if they foul,

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Speaker 4: you embella shit and then the audio got cut off.

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Speaker 4: Did y'all hear that?

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Speaker 3: Actually I did hear the audio in the time out

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Speaker 3: get cut. I thought it was because I was half

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Speaker 3: listening because I was doing I figured there was a swear. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was either a swear or she was

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Speaker 3: talking X and o's like, because I don't know what

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Speaker 3: the deal is.

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Speaker 2: I've never been on a live broadcast like that.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if when they get too deep

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Speaker 3: into their playbook, if there's a out point, like all right,

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Speaker 3: we don't want to give away industry secrets.

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Speaker 4: I felt like they were giving away industry secrets before

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Speaker 4: she told them to embellish.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, period.

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Speaker 1: I ain't peeped that, but you at leave it to

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Speaker 1: Alex to always catch the most minute details, the spiciest

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Speaker 1: minute details.

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Speaker 2: I know you do love gossip.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of gossip, we are going to have so much

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Speaker 1: more gossip about this game and this series, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: this entire WNBA season. It has been a sprint down

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Speaker 1: the stretcher with so much to get to that we

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Speaker 1: will want to look back on the entire season and again,

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Speaker 1: what a fitting and beautiful ending for the best WNBA

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Speaker 1: season to date. We'll have hopefully some guests to talk

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Speaker 1: about this big win and also just to look back

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Speaker 1: on the season. We're not done with the dub just yet.

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Speaker 1: Lots more to get to this week and moving forward,

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Speaker 1: But for tonight, it's late. We're tired, and I frankly

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Speaker 1: want to go watch some more pressers and celebrations because

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Speaker 1: I love watching happy people be happy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Good game, Misha, good game, Alex, good game, Liberty, fuck you.

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Speaker 1: This series is over, which means this season is over.

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Speaker 1: Good game with Sarah's Yane is an iHeart Women's Sports

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Speaker 1: our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive

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Speaker 1: producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez, Grace Lynch, and

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Speaker 1: Host Sarah Spain