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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark Vandermer with you,

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Speaker 1: soon to be joined by John Harris and the Hunday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio mobile studio, which moves around from time to time.

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Speaker 1: We've got the rodeo in the house. Hey, the Final

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Speaker 1: These kids work so hard to get those calves and

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Speaker 1: get scholarship money and all of that. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: tune in here for that. You two didn't here for

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Speaker 1: Texans Information, And We've got a good show for you tonight,

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Speaker 1: with Assistant Director of Player Personnel and College Scouting Director

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Speaker 1: James Lipford set to join us a visit with me

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Speaker 1: and Johnny also Damian Pierce. He was at a in

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Speaker 1: Girls Clubs kickball event with various other Texans organization members.

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty visits with him, and we will also check

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Speaker 1: in with Frank Frangie, who's the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguar,

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Speaker 1: as a visit we had with him at the combine.

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Speaker 1: Some interesting stuff there about the division, about how the

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Speaker 1: all of that. Now. The Texans did release some information today,

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Speaker 1: some transactions that were reported by other media outlets this week.

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Speaker 1: We've been discussing them on the year. You've gotten Johnny's

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Speaker 1: end running back, Mike Boone, Noah Brown, the receiver from

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Chase Winovich, and you know about case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: who I bumped into this week and said hello too

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. It was great

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Speaker 1: some other things this week, and some more players that

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Speaker 1: will continue to talk about these players now James Lipford

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Speaker 1: I found it fascinating anyway, and I thought we'd begin

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Speaker 1: with this though, because James Lipford, you gotta get to

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Speaker 1: know him, right. Everybody's googling. People want to get to

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Speaker 1: player Personnel, so I thought we'd lead that way. All right, James,

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the most important question I have today,

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Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with your current job, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of people hearing you in the media and

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Speaker 1: hearing this interview are going to google you, and when

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Speaker 1: they do, they will see a photo of you with

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Speaker 1: a piece of the Georgia hedges in your mouth following

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Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech win in Athens. How does it feel

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Speaker 1: to be one of the last people to be able

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Speaker 1: Apparently you know what that is. I appreciate the opening softball.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That was That was an incredible, incredible day.

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Speaker 1: That was my senior year. I was retchirt and Redchert

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Speaker 1: if you're a Georgia Tech fan, which I know that

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Speaker 1: Joe should have won the Highest mid With all due

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Speaker 1: your clocks teck in. In my opinion, James, you've been

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Speaker 1: i'd say. James Liffort Joining, US Assistant Director of Player Personnel,

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Speaker 1: College Scouting Director, James, can you take us through maybe

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Speaker 1: to see him play live. I generally use my fall

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Speaker 1: practice exposures are just as important as a game exposure.

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Speaker 1: back as we check in with Frank Frangie, voice of

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguar's excellent visit with him, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: to Damian Pierce and Drew Doherty in just a moment here.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Pierce, he was seventeenth in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: rushing last year, the top sixteen, So the sixteen players

430
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 1: in front of him all had over one thousand yards rushing.

431
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Speaker 1: This is notable because in the previous two years he

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Speaker 1: had fewer than eight or eight or fewer I should say,

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Speaker 1: so that number doubled a thousand yard rushers in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Why is the league changing? Is the running

435
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Speaker 1: back back? Is that position back in vogue. I don't know,

436
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: we could analyze that on another day, but I thought

437
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: that was interesting with Pierce, and clearly if he had

438
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Speaker 1: stayed healthy, he would have been top five, six seven,

439
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Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe better, who knows, but it'll be

440
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Speaker 1: great to have him back for twenty twenty three. The

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Speaker 1: thing about Pierce, and this stands out to me. With

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Speaker 1: a lot of players that are special, you can tell

443
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: in their rookie training camp that there's something extra there,

444
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Speaker 1: there's something to really pay attention into, and Pierce was

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Speaker 1: one of those players. As soon as they got into pads.

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Speaker 1: And what do we always say that time of year,

447
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Speaker 1: we do a lot of shows. You hear to say

448
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Speaker 1: it all the time. Do you hear the coaches say,

449
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: we won't know this until they get into pads. Well,

450
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: we know we do something about Damie and Pierce based

451
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: on his college tape. But once they got into pads,

452
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: he went crazy in camp and then opening day only

453
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: got twelve carries against the Colts in that time, but

454
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Speaker 1: then he started to take off from there and it

455
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: was really great to see as they got him in

456
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: the lineup more. Now they're going to add to the

457
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: running back position no doubt about that. But it's good

458
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: to see Pierce out and about boys and girls clubs,

459
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Speaker 1: kickball event, fun stuff with Texans players, Texans legends, and

460
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Speaker 1: our very own Drew Doherty who visited with Damian Pierce. Okay,

461
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Speaker 1: many of you know him. Is Damian Pierce one of

462
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Speaker 1: the meanest, the angriest runners in the world. And we're

463
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Speaker 1: gonna get to that motive. But today you were a

464
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Speaker 1: a kickball wonder kin, weren't you, Hey man, Yeah, he's

465
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Speaker 1: a bomb. Back to my elements school days. You know,

466
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: get out the play a little kickball with the kids.

467
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Speaker 1: You know, it's always good out of the house. And

468
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: anytime I get back to the community, you know, I'm

469
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Speaker 1: all for it. No as long we don't have any

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Speaker 1: plans or anything. Now, you're familiar with Brian Cushing, the

471
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: former linebacker here right, A little bit, a little bit, okay, Well,

472
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: he's the undisputed heavyweight champion Houston Texans wise of wearing

473
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Speaker 1: a wire being miked up. You're coming for him, though.

474
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Speaker 1: You he better watch us back because you put some

475
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: good stuff on tape, and I know this is gonna

476
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Speaker 1: be good too. Hey. Look, hey, here, Tens and I'm

477
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Speaker 1: gonna ta we all we all brother than the end

478
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Speaker 1: of day. So any two you got for me, ay,

479
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Speaker 1: I take him feel I got you got that right.

480
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: You are intense and he was intense. Okay, tell me

481
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Speaker 1: about this. What's this offseason been like for you? Because

482
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: it's I'm guessing one hundred eighty degrees different than what

483
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: you were doing this time last year. Of course, last

484
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: year this time I was getting ready, you know, to

485
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: get drafted somewhere in a completely different mindset, you know,

486
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: not really sure what the future hold. But now around

487
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: this time of year this year, we're on a good team.

488
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Speaker 1: We wereal him, We're done a few hires, We've build it.

489
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Speaker 1: We got pieces that we've building around and pieces that

490
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Speaker 1: we're putting in. I love the energy that's around. So

491
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Speaker 1: I just got to make sure that I'm in position to,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, do whatever Coach Miko asking whatever Coach dB ass.

493
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the dB wants to see improvement from

494
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: last year and all aspects of my game. I'm trying to.

495
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to challenge myself to do just that.

496
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: dB has high aspectations for me and high standards for

497
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Speaker 1: me that I try to carry over to myself. I'm

498
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Speaker 1: just ready to work with coach and see what he

499
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Speaker 1: got for me this year. Man. Yeah, being around you,

500
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm guessing those high expectations that he has don't come.

501
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: You're the ones you have for yourself right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like I like to shoot high. I like to

503
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: shoot how of course. Like I'm always trying to work.

504
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to take in anything anybody can give me.

505
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, where it's a veteran, where it's an old coach,

506
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Speaker 1: where it's a previous running bean like Jay Welles he

507
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: was just Ryan here. Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying

508
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Speaker 1: to take an in and to be the best I can,

509
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: because I know the best I am, the better everybody

510
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: around me is going to be. And you know vice versa.

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Speaker 1: You know they get if I see them getting better,

512
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to get better. They see me getting better,

513
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: they gonna want to get better. So just try to

514
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: have that good, infectious energy in the locker room and

515
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: rund to build it and try to build all what

516
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, mister Nick, our GM is bringing and um,

517
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: you know we're just trying to play some ball. Man,

518
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: bring something bad to Houston. It's interesting you bring that

519
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: up because Tamiko Ryan's he's been asked about you a

520
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: couple of times and he said, you bring that swarm mentality.

521
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: You're like a one man swam. Ay, what have you

522
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: thought when you hear stuff like that? And be what

523
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: do you think of your new head coach? When I

524
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: hear stuff like that, you know, it's good to hear

525
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: a head coach that wants to play intense, that wants

526
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: to play fast and physical, but also on the control

527
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Speaker 1: at the same time. And when I say on the control,

528
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Speaker 1: I mean being in the rights place at the right time,

529
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Speaker 1: playing a simon, playing fundamental football while also while just

530
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: being as sense as you can be. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: he's gonna bring guys around this program that can do

532
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: just that. Just hearing from coach Miko, if you're hearing

533
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Speaker 1: from his staff and here from a previous places, he's

534
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Speaker 1: where everybody loves him. Great care of the guy, high

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Speaker 1: care of the guy. And I'm excited to learn up

536
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Speaker 1: on him and you know, just be up on his wing.

537
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Speaker 1: Football wise, what have you been doing lately, been coach

538
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: Mike lately? Been in and out, end and out. Just

539
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Speaker 1: get him my body right, game, my mind right. But

540
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Speaker 1: right now I've been focusing on, you know, relaxing, taking

541
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Speaker 1: time off, trying to get my mind right, because when

542
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: I hit it, I want to hit the full speed

543
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: and I don't want to look back. How do you relax?

544
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: How does Damion Pierce unwind? Damon Piers unlined in the

545
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Speaker 1: living room with his Hunted pod pit Bull Hunt watching ACTV.

546
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Speaker 1: Just turned three November? Okay, did do anything fun Francho's birthday?

547
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: He got a Paw Patrol bid and he got a

548
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: ball which Paw Patrol members he most liked you you

549
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: think I think he liked a little bullet, a little

550
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: white bullet. Oh yeah, rubble, Yeah, he like Rubbo. Yeah,

551
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: you know songs, you got kids, we know, we know,

552
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: ye Rubbo has fun. Yeah yeah, he like Rubbo everything.

553
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Robert come, he could he go to watching the TV?

554
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: So fair enough, Paw Patrol and Hancho and Damian Pierce. Okay, hey,

555
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: what's the main goal you got for the rest of

556
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: the off season? What do you want to do most?

557
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: I just want to be I wanted to be a

558
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: difference this year on the field when you see me play,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of my development, I'm surety on

560
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: the field, and um, I just want to be a

561
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: better ball player than I was last year. You know,

562
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: I just want to keep improving, and um, you know,

563
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: keep climbing. All right, We'll get the ladder, We'll get

564
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: the rope, whatever you need to help climb. And it's

565
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: been been fun time with Damian. Thank you, thank man.

566
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Speaker 1: There's Drew Jordy with Damian Pierce, and it's gonna be

567
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: so good to watch him operate in twenty twenty three.

568
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Speaker 1: Along with whatever else they added running back, they announced

569
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Speaker 1: the signing of Mike Boone. They're gonna add more. You

570
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: get the strong feeling that that is going to happen.

571
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: They need their bent tape there two to the one

572
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: two punch or one A one B, however you wanted

573
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: to find it. It's got to happen. And I mentioned

574
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Speaker 1: this among the other signings they announced today. Case keenom

575
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: were very familiar with his work his odyssey, though a

576
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: lot of people have been asking me about Case because

577
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: it was really interesting to see him evolved as a

578
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: Texans player. As a player in general, guys who do

579
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: what he did in college very often don't pan out.

580
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: You put up all these huge numbers in college. He's

581
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 1: still the all time NCAA passing leader career yards. I

582
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of you are gonna eye roll and say, well,

583
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: he was at you age for eight years or whatever

584
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: it was, was at six I think so, But that's

585
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: besides the point. He comes in serves time, making it

586
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: sound like jail time, but does time on the practice

587
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: squad for the Houston Texans in twenty twelve, and that

588
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: means he's playing some receiver on the look team and

589
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: dB and whatever else he can do to get some work.

590
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: And he learned a lot of he was on the

591
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: road trips in the quarterback room all the time. Twenty

592
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Speaker 1: thirteen offseason, My gosh, he just blew up. Gary Kubiak

593
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: loved the progress that he made. It was highly notable.

594
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: And you all know the rest of the story. I

595
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: think you do that. He played eight games in twenty

596
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: thirteen during a very disappointing Texans season, but he put

597
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: up some decent numbers, especially at first against the Chiefs,

598
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: he looked okay, not great numbers there, but he had

599
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: them in the game. And against the Colts, he threw

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Speaker 1: three first half touchdown passes to Andre Johnson. Things quieted

601
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: down numbers wise after that, but he certainly made his

602
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: presence felt. And then he doesn't make the team when

603
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien takes over, but he's with the Rams, the

604
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: practice squad, the deer Blind. They signed him for the

605
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: final two games of the twenty fourteen season. He wins

606
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: them both as a starter. It was really cool to

607
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: see that chance to make the playoffs. That they got

608
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of help, but they didn't get the help

609
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: they needed. But then he's no longer with the Texans again,

610
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: he's with Saint Louis. They don't do that well. He

611
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: plays a little bit, he ends up well. He ends

612
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: up a ram at both places, Saint Louis and LA.

613
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Then Minnesota eleven and three record as a starter, the

614
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: Minneapolis miracle or is it Minnesota miracle? It was a

615
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: miracle you saw it to Diggs. And then Denver doesn't

616
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: go that well, Washington doesn't go that well. One and

617
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: seven during a very difficult time for that franchise. Two

618
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: and oh with Cleveland in the twenty twenty one season

619
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: where Mayfield got hurt a lot. So he made his

620
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: presence felt again. But here he is after serving as

621
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: a backup in Buffalo, and I think he's just here

622
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: to help. Right. You can play him if you want,

623
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: if you have to, certainly, and he could do well.

624
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: I think he could do very well in this system.

625
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: We talked about it last night on the program The

626
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: Quarterback Room, how it's going to shape up. It's gonna

627
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: be fun to watch everybody gel and very likely to

628
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. Of course, breaking news to further the

629
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: cause of this franchise. So I like Keenam on this team.

630
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: I think he fits in perfectly and he's getting a

631
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: lot of talk around town. All right. Coming up, the

632
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars are the flavor of the year, if you will.

633
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: They won the division for the first time since twenty seventeen.

634
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: They are the premier team in the AFC South, I think.

635
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: So let's talk about them and the rest of the division,

636
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: how it's going to shape up with Frank Frangie, the

637
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Speaker 1: voice of the Jaguars. That's coming up next on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Final segment here on Texans All Access tonight, and we

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Speaker 1: examine the AFC South, as we often do in so

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Speaker 1: many different ways, shapes sizes the Jacksonville Jaguars. How tight

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00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: or loose is their hold on the top spot of

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Speaker 1: the AFC South after capturing it for the first time

643
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Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen. Are they the faves? Yeah, I'd probably

644
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: think they are right when it's all said and done,

645
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: after the drafting and free agency is finally completely in

646
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: the books. It's never really complete, but you get my

647
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: drift here. They are going to be the favorite in

648
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Speaker 1: the AFC South, you would think. So, how are they

649
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: responding to that? And what was it like for them

650
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Speaker 1: to actually win the division and win a playoff game

651
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: when they were down twenty seven to nothing. Well, John

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00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Harris and I visited with Frank Frangie, voice of the

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: Jags when we were at the combine, and we thought

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Speaker 1: this was certainly worth a liston the first place AFC

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Speaker 1: South defending champion Jacksonville Jaguars. It kind of hurts to

656
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Speaker 1: say it, but I'm happy for you, Frank, I really am.

657
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, I root against everybody because I'm bitter in

658
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: shallow that way, but I root for you. I was

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00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: very happy for you when they won that game, coming

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Speaker 1: back from twenty seven nothing down. I don't know how

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00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: a team blows a twenty plus lead in a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, a minute, but the Chargers did it and

663
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars prevailed. That was very cool. Welcome, Thank you, Mark.

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Speaker 1: You know it's funny about that, I am. We had

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Speaker 1: the story if you were writing a screenplay for Remember

666
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: the Titans or Hoosiers or one of these dramatic movies,

667
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: and you said, Okay, you're gonna start out three and seven,

668
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: but then you're gonna start rallying, and you're gonna be

669
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Speaker 1: down three touchdowns to the Cowboys, but come back and

670
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Speaker 1: winning on a pick six in overtime. And then you're

671
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna be down to the Ravens and winning on a

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Speaker 1: two point conversion. And then you're gonna play the Titans,

673
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: your bitter rival, and they're gonna outplay the whole game,

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Speaker 1: but then they're gonna fumble and your guy's gonna run

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Speaker 1: it back for the game winning touchdown, and then you're

676
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna get down twenty seven nothing in the first playoff game,

677
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: twenty seven nothing, and then come back and win it

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Speaker 1: on a field goal at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: If you'd have turned that into to the studio, they'd

680
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: have send it back. Yeah, just said, they said, come on,

681
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: it's not realistic. Yeah, dude, Well, that's what happened. It

682
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: was one of the most bizarre last four or five

683
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: games mark you'll ever see. It was glorious, glorious for us.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you could make the point that the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars finished nine and eight, Okay, you can make the

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00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: point that they could have won four more. You can

687
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: make the point that they could have lost four more. Yea.

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Speaker 1: It was just a bizarre season. But it was a

689
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: great season market where we don't get many of those.

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00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: We're pretty happy about it. Yeah, And to that end, Frank,

691
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: because you had that season. Now there's expectations. You saw

692
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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL power rankings after the season. The

693
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: Jags are seven or eight. Now, there's expectation in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: And I remember back to twenty seventeen. Yeah, that great

695
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: year twenty eighteen. A ton of expectations and then things

696
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: started going south about the middle of that year. And

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00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: obviously that's when we got hot with the winning streak.

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Speaker 1: How do you think Doug and Trevor and the rest

699
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: with the expectation going forward, Well, that's the big question, John,

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Speaker 1: and I asked Doug that the other day, said, that's

701
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Speaker 1: what you want. I think they'll deal with that well

702
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: for a myriad of reasons. Number one, the one thing

703
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: he did is he really rebuilt the culture. I know,

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00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: culture is the word everybody loves to use, and it's

705
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: a cliche word, but it's true. People have to get along.

706
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Your locker room has to be good, You have to

707
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: trust your coaching and he had to earn their trust.

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Speaker 1: And after what happened a year earlier, when nobody trusted anybody,

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00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: then he had to really re earn it. And I

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00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: think because of that, they He's a mild mannered guy.

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Speaker 1: I meet with him every week. I get thirty forty

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Speaker 1: minutes with Doug every single week without exception, and I

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Speaker 1: can tell you, just me and him, he was the

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Speaker 1: same guy when they lost five in a row. They

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Speaker 1: was when they won six in a row. And I

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00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: think that'll help mitigate the pressure. Now. Having said that, yeah,

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00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: there's more. It's a young team that's not expected to

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00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: have the target on their back, and now they do.

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Speaker 1: So how they how they manage it'll be a big

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Speaker 1: part of their season. When did you know last year, Frank,

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Speaker 1: that you were seeing a different Trevor Lawrence Because there

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00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: was a game for me, but I felt like, oh boy, Yeah,

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00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: and that was the Titans game. That's when I watched

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00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: him and went, whoa, this is the guy that everybody

725
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: warned us about. This is the guy that Mark didn't

726
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: think we'd see with such joke. When did you know

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Speaker 1: for Trevor. I'll tell you when I think it changed

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Speaker 1: for Trevor. I don't know if it's when I knew

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00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: the light was coming on. We played in London and

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Speaker 1: they had they ran a play see when you're in

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Speaker 1: and you guys know this. When Trevor was at Clemson,

732
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: he had the biggest arm in college football. His receivers

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00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: were way better than the wake Forest defensive backs. Yeah,

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00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: so you could get away with stuff even if that's

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Speaker 1: not what the play called for they ran and Dougas

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Speaker 1: had to teach him listen, it's a different league. He

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Speaker 1: found it out the first year when he threw all

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Speaker 1: the interceptions. He found it out early in the second year.

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Speaker 1: So there was a play John in London. It was

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Speaker 1: just a little naked throw it to the pylon and

741
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Speaker 1: the red zone play. You know, throw it to the pylon.

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Speaker 1: If it's not there throwing, then there's not a progression.

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00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: There's not a second and third progression, but throw it

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Speaker 1: to the corner if it's not there, throwing to stand.

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00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: So Trevor rolls right, Christian Kirk's not there has covered

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Speaker 1: so instead of throwing the stands. Trevor has always been

747
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: able to get away with stuff. He tried to force

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00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: it in. It got picked off in the ends of

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Speaker 1: them by Denver, and Denver went on. He was never

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Speaker 1: the same that game. He was rattled the rest of

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Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, I felt like he had let the

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00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: team down. Well, from that point forward, the light went on.

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I gotta do it, and I'm coached to do here,

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00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: no matter how good I am, no matter how big

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00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: my arm is, I don't talent I am. I gotta

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Speaker 1: do what I'm coached to do. And I started seeing

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00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: the changes, maybe even the next week. So I don't

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00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: know if it's one game where he was necessarily better

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Speaker 1: right after that. Do you know after that game for

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00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: the next I think five six games, it was fourteen

761
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns and one pick. That's when it happened. So it

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00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: was after the London game, the loss to Denver is

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00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: went off the end and everything changed for the Jags

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00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: after that game. I just remember watching that that Titans

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00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: game like, man, how did they beat the Titans up

766
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: so badly in Nashville? And I'm just watching him deliver

767
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: every throw and I've thought, oh my goodness, the light

768
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: has gone on for sure. He's really good now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean when he's when he's right, he is he is,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't had that now. So it's really good

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: for us to wars. Frank Frazie voiced the Jaguars with

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00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: us all right, as the Jags started to surge. The

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Speaker 1: Titans lost seven in a row on the way out,

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Speaker 1: and your thoughts on that and them moving forward into

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, you know, it's funny. The Titans were

776
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: a mess. The Jags were on top of the world.

777
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: The Titans had to sign Joshua Dobbs and play him

778
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: because they didn't trust Malik Willis. After Tannehill went out,

779
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: they signed a guy two weeks earlier and playing him

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: in the biggest game of the year and still almost

781
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: won the game. Yeah. I think part of that is

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00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: the Titans expect to beat the Jaguars, the Jaguars expect

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00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: to mess it up. I think there was pressure, you

784
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: could feel the tension. But when the Jaguars won that game,

785
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I think in their minds and the Jags minds, now,

786
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe all of a sudden, this is the Jaguars team

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Speaker 1: that believes it's going to go through Jacksonville. I don't

788
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: know that they ever believed that, all of a sudden

789
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: the division was going to go through our city until

790
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: that win against the Titans. I think I think they're confidence.

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: As for the Titans, you know, Mark you and are

792
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: good buddies with Mike Keith, a play buddies from in

793
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: nash Phil And I don't think they're sure what they're

794
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna do. They're they've committed Rand Carthon, their new GM

795
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: is committed to Tannehill, so maybe that means they're gonna

796
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: make one more run at it with Jeffrey Simmons and

797
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and the star players they have. There was

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00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: some talk they may blow it up, but I don't

799
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: think they're going to now. So as long as they're

800
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: not blowing it up, I think I really believe the

801
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: Titans are tough out man. They're tough. They played with

802
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: the toughness. I think Raabel's are really good coach, and

803
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I think and I think, you gotta cut the head

804
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: off the snake. Man, They're not dead till they're dead. Yeah.

805
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I agree with with that part. Frank, we talk about

806
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: the division. I love talking about the like moments, and

807
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: especially for like you two as play by play broadcasters

808
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: and bringing that moment to the people, the Josh Allen

809
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: moment against Tennessee in particular, describing that moment. What was

810
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: that like because you're almost like the officials, You're like,

811
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of let it play out right, and

812
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: you gotta have the touchdown call because you've taken the lead,

813
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: but doesn't stand What was that moment like you're kind

814
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: of going through it because I mean, I've we've seen

815
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: it from the GoPro camera, But how was it going

816
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: through that moment because you don't know it's a fumble? Yeah,

817
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: but man, it could be a monumental play in the season. Yeah, Jaguars.

818
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: When I've always believed is to play it. You said it, John,

819
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: excuse me my voice here. I've always believed in Mark.

820
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you feel the same way. I treat a play

821
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: like that like I'm an official, Yeah, I treat it

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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: like it's a fumble. If everybody's running down the field

823
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: and the officials are chasing them. I'm going to treat

824
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: it like that's to play. If they come back and

825
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: call it an incomplete pass like the officials, I can

826
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: live with that. What I don't want to do is

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Speaker 1: not call it as a touchdown and find out that

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00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: it is. I always do you do that? Mark, of course,

829
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I will always go I can burn the other way. Yeah, correct,

830
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: So I'll always call what's going on on the field.

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Speaker 1: But it was bizarre too because and again, John, there's

832
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: the emotion of it. Yeah. I mean, John, you lived

833
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. You know, you know the place is going,

834
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: not your passion for the team, and how strung, how

835
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: much they struggled, and you know, the drill, and to

836
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: realize that after everything that happened, you just needed to

837
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: win one more game and you win the division and

838
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: you and then you're gonna lose it because they're out

839
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: playing you and you're gonna lose to Joshua Dobbs. And

840
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: how could this happen? You know? And how how all

841
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: the and then and all of a sudden, the balls

842
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: on the ground and josh Allen's running it back and

843
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh my god, how's this happening again? How's

844
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: this happening. That's what you think. You're thinking. How's it

845
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: happened for your time? Yes, yes, and that's what sou

846
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: But back to the mechanics of it to your question.

847
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: I always call that I call what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the field. If they're running it back, I call it

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Speaker 1: like they're running it back. All that the officials change it.

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Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, voice of the Jaguars with US, I asked

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Speaker 1: you about the Titans, what about the Cults, because they

852
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: are an interesting situation to say the least. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: the they're there the team I have the least guess

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Speaker 1: at what they're gonna do. Let me say this the

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Speaker 1: right way. You never know. You always go into a

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Speaker 1: game and say I got a prediction. Prediction may be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but at least you know what you think. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I think. I think. I think I

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about Shane Steikin. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: their quarterback is going to be. I think there's still

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Speaker 1: some good players. I think he get one of the

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Speaker 1: best running backs in the league. I think they've got

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Speaker 1: I think their offensive line will make a resurgence. It

864
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: was bad last year, but Ryan Kelly and Quentin Nelson

865
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Speaker 1: didn't just become bad players. They gotta get they gotta

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Speaker 1: get better at tackle. Um. I think there's some heritage there,

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Speaker 1: and I think heritage matters. But I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to make of them. I have a pretty good idea

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Speaker 1: what I think your team is going to be like

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Speaker 1: moving forward. I have a pretty good idea of what

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Speaker 1: I think uh the Titans will be. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to make of the Colts. They're the most They're

873
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Speaker 1: the most difficult team for me to gauge what they are.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the Texans. You haven't asked me

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Speaker 1: about the Texans. I was just about to tell us

876
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Speaker 1: about the Texas. I think the Texans are going to

877
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Speaker 1: be in a really good spot. I'm not saying just

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Speaker 1: because the moment with you guys. I think Demiko RAN's

879
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good coach. I think he's I

880
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: think there's some Mike Tomlin and some Belichick and saved

881
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: and toughness to him that the defensive coaches have become

882
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: head coaches have a different personality to them. It was

883
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: a toughness to them and I and I and I

884
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: think they've got at that. I think all those draft picks. Um,

885
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Speaker 1: you gotta figure out quarterback. But I think I think

886
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna like where the Texans are headed.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, I'm not standing. I'm staying here with you. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that as long as Mike Vrabel's in place,

889
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to count them out. The culture, the

890
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: one team. I can't get it. I can't get it.

891
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Speaker 1: I feel like I know who Damiko Ryans is better

892
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: than I'm gonna know who Shane stuck in it, you

893
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we'll still sits. Yeah, and

894
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Speaker 1: you covered SEC so you know all about Demika riots

895
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Speaker 1: at that point. Yeah, I'm gonna end with something I've

896
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: got to know you said earlier. I lived in Jacksonville.

897
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Speaker 1: I'm just head coach at Episcopal High School. I have

898
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Speaker 1: ties there, and you bring him on every single time

899
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Speaker 1: on your radio show. It's a good point. You know,

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Speaker 1: we need to make a change. Wait a minute, Wait

901
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Speaker 1: a minute, I kid, I kid. I'm glad you tube connected.

902
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Speaker 1: It's always when the three of us sit down, I

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Speaker 1: always have this kind of surreal moment of my past

904
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Speaker 1: and my president, you know, kind of coming together with

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Speaker 1: two guys that I absolutely adore and love and it's

906
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Speaker 1: just always kind of surreal that well, but Frank and

907
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: I are like long lost cousins that I mean that

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00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: recently because of my Florida history. He's got Zaghaky on

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00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: once a week Hurricanes played by play announcer who did

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00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: color when I was there, So we kind of have

911
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Speaker 1: this foundation that we never knew about. And Zagaki's the best.

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Speaker 1: He's our buddy and h and the best part about

913
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Speaker 1: having Mark on is Hayes Carline, who's on with me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the greatest guy in the world. Yeah. He is obsessed

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Speaker 1: with the winning streak. So Mark and Mark had the

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Speaker 1: money winning goes, Hey, we need to ask Mark my

917
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Speaker 1: winnings and say, hey, we've asked from the winning streak

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Speaker 1: the last twelve times he's come on. Okay, it hasn't

919
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Speaker 1: changed the winning streat the number hasn't changed any Okay,

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Speaker 1: so so but he so we love that. I always

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Speaker 1: getting my text from Buddy. You mentioned Andy Kid, who

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Speaker 1: has brought my four players now. He texted me. I

923
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, Mark was just on with Frank and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man with by me, I's living Jackson, there's

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Speaker 1: room for everybody. I kid a raft season. He's your man, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go go, Frank, thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Take there's Frank Frangie voice the Jacksonville Jaguar is always

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Speaker 1: fun to catch up with Frank, no matter what the

929
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Speaker 1: situation is, even if he's in first place and I'm

930
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: bitter and resentful about it, but in a healthy, fun

931
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Speaker 1: sports way. And the winning streak he referred to with

932
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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes. You've heard me talk about this before, but

933
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Speaker 1: some of you are wondering, what is that? Forty two

934
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Speaker 1: wins in a row between baseball, football and basketball. Baseball

935
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Speaker 1: won the national championships, swept their way to the postseason

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Speaker 1: sixteen and oh football won the National Championship undefeated season

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Speaker 1: in one, and basketball that year started out fourteen and OZ.

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Speaker 1: So my broadcast partner Josephaki and I broadcast forty two

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Speaker 1: games in a row without a loss, a record that

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Speaker 1: will never be broken. That's my story and I'm sticking

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Speaker 1: to it anyway. This show is going to be up

942
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Speaker 1: on podcasts soon enough for you to take in again

943
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Speaker 1: with Damian Pearce and James Lipford and Frank Frangie. Thank you, Johnny,

944
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Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. Have a great night, Go Texans,