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Speaker 1: As media. All right, y'all, welcome the hood politics for

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Speaker 1: prop I'm gonna bite the homie who's on the scene

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Speaker 1: right now. Welcome black y'all.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: This is a longtime friend. This is we always try

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Speaker 1: to do something special for the holidays, something either either

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Speaker 1: a rerun or something that's not so like punch you

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Speaker 1: in the gut the world is dying type episode, you know.

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Speaker 1: So this is I I don't I do book recommendations,

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Speaker 1: but I don't ever interview the authors. Like it'd be

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Speaker 1: books that I'm truly actually reading, you know, like not

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Speaker 1: like oh, I mean you have you have a platform

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Speaker 1: I got do like will send you stuff all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even for for like endorsements like to you know,

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Speaker 1: to put on the back of the thing. Like I listen, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I don't be reading them things.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It'd be like if I know the person, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I trust them, like I trust you. I know this person,

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Speaker 1: I trust him. That's a good dude work. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This one I read man, I

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Speaker 1: read this mug. But anyway, ladies and gentlemen, do people

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Speaker 1: know your they know your birth name, Yeah, they know me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the homie Glenn belief, which is what I met him

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Speaker 1: as of the amazing YouTube and so much more network

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Speaker 1: belief in fatherhood. What's up, homeboy?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me, Bro.

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Speaker 4: I miss you. I love seeing you. I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad we have this little moment. I gotta

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Speaker 4: come up. I want to come up to you to

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Speaker 4: see the house and you know, you know, smell the

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Speaker 4: incense or whatever you got going on up in there.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's literally right here. It's like you already knew.

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Speaker 3: I already knew it was up.

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Speaker 4: But man, I'm grateful that man, you would have me

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Speaker 4: on here. Man, I know, we got a lot to

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Speaker 4: talk about because we never did this before.

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Speaker 1: So for so many years, like yeah, y'all, so to

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Speaker 1: catch y'all up, I've known belief in multiple iterations of

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Speaker 1: who he is as a artist, as a friend, as

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Speaker 1: a group member, as a tour made and then into

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Speaker 1: what he's become now. And one thing I do do

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Speaker 1: on this show a lot of times is like I

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Speaker 1: it's it's very important that like, again, the premise of

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Speaker 1: the show is like, if you understand hood, you understand

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Speaker 1: city living, you understand politics, you understand it better than

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Speaker 1: you think you do, you actually already living it, and

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Speaker 1: you actually carry more power and authority than the said

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Speaker 1: auticians on the screen. And so I always try to

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Speaker 1: bring in people that I'm like, this is what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: this is real power, this is real authority, this is

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Speaker 1: real influence. You know what I'm saying, And it's authentic

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Speaker 1: to who they are, whether they black or brown or

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Speaker 1: just just city folks, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know too many people that embody this like

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Speaker 1: Belief does. So y'all may know him from his fatherhood stuff.

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Speaker 1: This freakishly just insanely successful, powerful, funny, well made YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel called Belief in Fatherhood. So we're gonna go back.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that. The transition from that because

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Speaker 1: I knew you as and I don't you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't pass this out a lot. Is like there are

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Speaker 1: there are good rappers, there are rappers that I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of, and then like this nigga is just dope,

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Speaker 1: like where you just very few like at all, Like

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Speaker 1: I there are very few times that I stop a

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like wait, run that back? Liked also like

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Speaker 1: it also, you know, just like some of y'all don't

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Speaker 1: know like how the game really meet, Like some of

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Speaker 1: your favorite rappers are using them is beliefs bars coming

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Speaker 1: out their mouth y'all, Like you know, I'm not ain't

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Speaker 1: no snitch. Some of y'all selling bars like a two

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Speaker 1: man sal You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Some of the pin game is crazy, you know.

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Speaker 3: Man, Thank you, thank you man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sou so belief. I also realized as I read this,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a lot in there. It's a

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Speaker 4: lot in there, bro.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think you know what what men do

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Speaker 4: really well? We compartmentalize ourselves, and I think that sometimes

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Speaker 4: it's to a fault. You know, the MC needs to

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Speaker 4: meet the father, you know, the father needs to meet

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Speaker 4: the son, the son needs to meet the brother. Like

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Speaker 4: there's so many different parts of us that we have

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Speaker 4: to switch off and on. But I think what you

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Speaker 4: do really well is you are everywhere. Like who you

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Speaker 4: are on the mic is the same way who you

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Speaker 4: are in the green room everywhere.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So I think you do a really good job of

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Speaker 4: being yourself everywhere, and I don't feel like I'm ever

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Speaker 4: getting a piece of you. It's like when I see

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Speaker 4: propaganda and I hear them on the song and I

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Speaker 4: hear him on the phone, I talk on the same person.

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Speaker 3: It's always the same person. So yeah, thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: That's like there's which is actually leads into the first

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted to talk about, which is something I love.

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Speaker 1: I love looking at this, but I love I love

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Speaker 1: black men in the era we're in now, because it's

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Speaker 1: like niggas have gone to therapy, so like now we're

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Speaker 1: ready to like be like, oh okay. So one thing

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Speaker 1: that there's two things. There is one that I have

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Speaker 1: hanging on. It's like right on the wall behind the

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Speaker 1: camera that I remind myself as far as my parenting

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Speaker 1: is concerned. But for myself speaking of what you just said,

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Speaker 1: is that I've always valued authenticity. You will all I

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Speaker 1: will always be. You know, to your point, the person

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Speaker 1: my therapist called me on something which spun into a record,

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Speaker 1: a whole album that like I'm putting out next week

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Speaker 1: or not next week, next year. But he said that

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Speaker 1: artists oftentimes not oftentimes, He's like all the times. He's like,

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Speaker 1: artists aren't good at being vulnerable, You're good at disclosure, okay.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I said. I was like, bra, slap

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Speaker 1: so right. It was like, it's a disclosure to the

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Speaker 1: on the stage, I'm fillaying myself, but it's curated, you

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Speaker 1: me questions that I do feel naked, you know that,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, like or I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: answer you I'd rather write a poem about it. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather write a song about it, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And let let let me put this in the

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Speaker 4: perfect lighting and make it look just perfect, you yes,

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Speaker 4: as I show, as I bear my soul, let me

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Speaker 1: Look yes, yes, And I like so, I I really

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Speaker 1: wrestled with that, you know what I'm saying, and being like,

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Speaker 1: are there parts of me that are not not only

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Speaker 1: Are there parts of me that are just for me,

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: So I often look to you for that, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I first chapter, I wrote it right down because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask me the same question, Vet goes, is

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Serve terrible, What a terrible thing to

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Speaker 1: You know you want to talk about please talk about this,

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Speaker 1: because that's to me, was like, that's it. It's vulnerabilious disclosure.

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Speaker 1: What's available, what's off the table? What's on the table?

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Speaker 1: And how do I display authenticity to where I'm not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think that there's a few things.

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Speaker 2: Right, I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't understand family. I don't understand family. I have to

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Speaker 4: redefine it for myself because I don't get it broken home,

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Speaker 4: So I don't understand. So I'm making it as I go.

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Speaker 4: The things that I'm attracted to in family life that

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Speaker 4: I've seen in literature, I've noticed that the parents really

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Speaker 4: do give a business to the kids, right. They teach

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Speaker 4: I'm like, this is a family business. I'll figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Just trust me, just trust me, Just trust me, Just

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Speaker 3: trust me, Just trust me. And that was my mon truck.

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Speaker 4: And so when you question someone who is insecure, when

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Speaker 4: But people are starting to be like, we might want

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Speaker 4: to listen to black voices.

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Speaker 3: So I'm over here, like shut up, yah onward, exactly right.

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Speaker 4: And my wife is having this internal battle with herself,

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Speaker 4: being like, I don't like the way this feels. I

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're not living.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was.

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Speaker 4: Immature, and I was sad and I was offended. What

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Speaker 4: she was truly asking is where are the boundaries? Where

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Speaker 4: the lines? Yes, and there was an answer to that,

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Speaker 4: but the way she phrased the question was so offensive.

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Speaker 4: I just I became the child instead of the father.

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Speaker 4: Really valid question. The answer to that question is we

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Speaker 4: have a family business, and there are parts of our

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Speaker 4: family family that we can monetize in a way that

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Speaker 4: benefits the growth of not only ourselves but our children.

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Speaker 3: For instance, our son loves hockey. Yeah. I don't like hockey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm a really good storyteller, yes, and my

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Speaker 4: stories about hockey can get the Stanley Cup in our

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Speaker 4: living room. And it did, and it did. But I

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Speaker 4: didn't have the categories to say all that. I just said, Hey,

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Speaker 4: if you want to hang out. If you want to

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Speaker 4: hang out with Sterling K. Brown and his wife, we

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Speaker 4: could probably do that if I'll keep working, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Or if you want to, you know,

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Speaker 4: launch a beauty thing, then we can do that. If

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Speaker 4: based on our business. Now that's all good and well

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Speaker 4: and good intentions, but nigga, how much does that cost?

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Speaker 3: Yes, not in money, no, but in.

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Speaker 4: Access, in security.

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Speaker 3: And we didn't know, we didn't know the cost to it.

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Speaker 3: But like the mainstream, we don't know nothing about that.

430
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know anything about We just

431
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: we just as surprised as you are, you know what

432
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that said, it's like when you do

433
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to valuate what you're saying, when you

434
00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: do invite people to the Fellowship haul, when you do

435
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: invite people to come after come to dinner after church

436
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: on Sunday, like you really see this is why, you

437
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, there's like a building fund.

438
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah we got you know, we always got the bake

439
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: sale and stuff like that was because we truly live

440
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: in a community. Like that's because you know, sister Jenkins

441
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: can't pay a rent, so we're doing that to pay

442
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: a rent. Like this, yeah, and there's and and I

443
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: have no second thoughts about it, like this is you

444
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's an honor. Who's that

445
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: little boy on the couch He's like, oh his mama

446
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: got to work tonight? Yeah, I just I didn't. I

447
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: don't know. He just well he's staying here, Like when

448
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: is she coming? I don't know, I don't know when

449
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: she's coming to get him, you know what I'm saying, Like,

450
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: but here all right, you know, like that sort of

451
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: community experience. I know, I grew up with you know

452
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yes, uh, it's something that just yeah,

453
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: just people don't see. But I want to switch gears

454
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: here and talk a little politics because our show is

455
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways you say things

456
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: without saying things, which is one what I love about

457
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: the book, and then two about the show. And I

458
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: have discussed once before just about how like you can

459
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: bend statistics however you want to bend to them. Yeah,

460
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: but if we are gonna, if we are going to

461
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: be if we are going to look at the numbers.

462
00:27:51,840 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: First of all, we the numbers among different race structures,

463
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: and as it relates to the way that the government

464
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: defines race, the presence of fatherhood is pretty much the same.

465
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: We are. We are like our divorce rates or in

466
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: the house or out the house. There's really no difference

467
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: among different communities. But so since that's like a no go,

468
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: it's like, well, absentee fathers in the black home, we

469
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: just our numbers are the same, you know what I'm

470
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: saying now now, But once you get in the house,

471
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: the participation of black fathers in the l in the

472
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: life of their child child is not even close. We

473
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: are way more present with our children than really any

474
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: other an you know what I'm saying, Like, when you

475
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, so I guess, my, my, if

476
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: I were to formed this question, do you see that

477
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, as far as like the places you've invited

478
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: to the people that reach out, you know what I'm saying, Like,

479
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: has this also been because I know anecdotally that's the

480
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: way it feels to me, you know what I'm saying,

481
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: And then to see the numbers bear it out, it's like,

482
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's kinda that's kind of what I

483
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: think too. And I'm even saying about dads that are

484
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: in you know, broken homes, m hm, they be with

485
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: their kids, you know what I'm.

486
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: Saying, Yes, yeah, but that I think those are the

487
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: stats that they they're counting, right, It's like you don't

488
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: live with your dad or you only see them sometimes,

489
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: and so it's.

490
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: An absent tee thing.

491
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: So I think I think you know, what's interesting is that,

492
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: you know, if the numbers are the same when there

493
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: is one father, there's not just his house that he's

494
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: caring for.

495
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: It's multiple people in the community, you know what I'm saying.

496
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: So the whole block celebrates when mister Johnson comes home

497
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: or gets off of work or whatever. Yeah, yeah, because

498
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: he'll go outside and help them and train them whatever. Yeah,

499
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: that's what I've noticed. What I also noticed is that

500
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: because I'm a part of you know whatever, this manisphere

501
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: is like thing happening here, like I see it, but

502
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: I recognize that.

503
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: You know, they're like organizations like.

504
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: Dad Gang with my homie Sewn Johnson and then they're

505
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: Shaun Williams. And so there's another thing called d s

506
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: SC the Daddy So Daddy Stroller Social Club where you know,

507
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: there's you know, I think there's like ten chapters across

508
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: the country where men are just getting together, mostly black fathers,

509
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: but getting together. It's just hanging out with their kids

510
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: together every month, you know what I'm saying.

511
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: You know there's the Brooklyn Stroller Club with yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

512
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: with the homies.

513
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: So there's like it's it's that when black men are present,

514
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: because you know they're is a lot of nurturing, you

515
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying That we've learned, you know, from

516
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: our mothers. We also like become more than caregivers, you

517
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like we go deeper. You know

518
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying with our intention in time with our kids,

519
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: and so you know, this is the this is the

520
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: crazy thing is they like to pick this this narrative

521
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: against us, and they you know, bring up statistics from

522
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: you know, whatever organizations. Mostly that's BEI because whatever, right, yes, right,

523
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: But when you see fathers that are involved, only the

524
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: black dads are.

525
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Accused of being overbeared.

526
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: It's only the Dr Dion Sanders, it's only the le

527
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: bar Ball, It's only the Floyd Mayweather seniors. Like it's

528
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: always the you know, Richard Williams. Right, it's always those

529
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: dads that oh my gosh, he's just he you know

530
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Meanwhile, white white dads pulling strings all

531
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: types of we are still.

532
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Talking about We're still talking about the bus Bus family

533
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: and uh for the.

534
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: Lakers exactly, I'm like, hey, nobody his.

535
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Kids in charge?

536
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: Exactly, why wouldn't he Yeah, yeah, exactly, ain't nobody tripping? So,

537
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: you know, nepotism. I never even heard that word before

538
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 4: like black people really started coming up, you know, like

539
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: so it's just I see it as you know, it's

540
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: it's that Charlie kirkstat you know what I'm saying. It's

541
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: that it's that these these just I I hate it

542
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: because I'm like in the work, you know what I'm saying,

543
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: and so I feel like people are kind of stepping

544
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: in my area, you know what I mean, with their

545
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: shoes on and talk to me, come on, talk to

546
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: talk to So I'm like, I'm like, you got to

547
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: understand that, like we have we we our families were

548
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: called apart forever, Yeah, from Rim, from our home, bort

549
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: apart sold the different parts because we understand the power

550
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: what black family represents. When another type of person comes

551
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: around and they see a black family, they want to

552
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: be involved. Then when I tell you this, every Saturday

553
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: morning I have a men's let I just open the zoom.

554
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Any black man can come. The only thing is you

555
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: just gotta be black. Yeah.

556
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: Right, A lot of people will be like, yo, why

557
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: is it only for black men?

558
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: Maybe you hear Charlie Kirk say talk.

559
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: About black talk about what he says about us. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

560
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: you're not going through that. You're not going through it,

561
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: that's obviously, yeah exactly.

562
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: So my whole point is I want to give him

563
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: a space to fall apart and be human, just for

564
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: a moment, just for a moment on a weekend, find

565
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: yourself humans. I can't live this life dog, Yeah, with

566
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: men stepping into fatherhood and being caught.

567
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: Off guard by the truth. Yeah right, Yeah.

568
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: The truth is you have to provide security for your wife,

569
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: your children, sometimes your employees and whoever else you have

570
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: some type of you know, protection over but you you're

571
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: not gonna feel secure at all. You're gonna have to

572
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: go into some community. You don't have to get really

573
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: close with God, and sometimes he feels like he's far

574
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: from you, sir. And so in a place where I

575
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: realized I needed a hug and there was nobody in

576
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: my house big enough to wrap their harms around me.

577
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: So I asked the family to give me a group

578
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: of I needed that.

579
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can't survive without that. And so I

580
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: need men to before they step in the fatherhood. I

581
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: needed to understand. Hey, bro, it's gonna cost you. Yeah,

582
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You're gonna feel like when

583
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: you step into too the home. That why everybody get

584
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: quiet when I come around. Yeah, and you don't even

585
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: realize you got a pregame before you step into the door.

586
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You gotta I'm guilty take it off.

587
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: Dad's home.

588
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: Dad's home, y'all got home this this Now, who's trying

589
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: to get whipped on this video game? You got to

590
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: come home with that and then and then later on

591
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: you you gotta fight to be yourself in front of

592
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: your wife too. I was in a meeting, bro, and

593
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: I was asking the guys. I said, Yo, how many

594
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 4: of you guys feel like you give me one hundred

595
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: percent of yourself in your home?

596
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 3: No? Everybody said, now, no. One.

597
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: Dude was having a meeting in his car in his

598
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: garage because he was like, I don't want my wife

599
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 4: to hear what I'm talking about, you know what I'm saying.

600
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, it's just recently been me

601
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: in the past two years. I'm like, I could be

602
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of myself in my house, and it's

603
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: come where it's come to my wife. She's understanding that,

604
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: like one, like, I'm really on your side, yeah, like

605
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: I want you to win so bad and I don't

606
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 4: want to harm you. But because of her experience, she's

607
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 4: been told something different, you know what I'm saying. So

608
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: we just got a lot of work to do, and

609
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: as black fathers, we can't. It feels like we can't rest,

610
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 4: but in community we can rest. And I was talking

611
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: to a dude another dude.

612
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: Bro.

613
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 4: He was like, Bro, it just seemed like everybody fake

614
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 4: and nobody else is lost, right, And we're in a group.

615
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: It's like fifteen of us talking. And I was like, Bro,

616
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 4: if we're all together, are we really lost?

617
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Though? Yeah, you know what I'm.

618
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: Saying, like, yeah, if we together, you're not lost.

619
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: We just together.

620
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: I think of I think of so many things, like

621
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the back and forth between if I show again because

622
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: I live in a queendom, like these are yes, girl, dad,

623
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: you know. Now, as as this is not to say

624
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: that their emotional state is any different than having boys,

625
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: It's just plays out differently, obviously, but I say that

626
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: to say to your point, like, there are times that

627
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: like my sense of humor, the awareness, like you said

628
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: of even within my home, the power dynamic of patriarchy

629
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: just con at being a continual, haunting presence, even when

630
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm participating in it, you know, has

631
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: me so often being like let me just keep this

632
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: to myself, Like let me just let me just go

633
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: sit outside you know, let me just you know, and

634
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: it's for fear of I think, like you're saying, participating

635
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: in a pain or a training that they came into

636
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: this relationship with, you know, and that is something that

637
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: like it means that I'm on, you know what I'm saying,

638
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: And I think, like you said, being being aware of

639
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: the fact that like, well, I am on, so that

640
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: they can be free, you know, And that's really what

641
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: I want is for them to be free. So and

642
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: my wife has said something to me before which actually heard,

643
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: but it made a good point that she was just like,

644
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: there are certain things I just can't get from you,

645
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: so I have to get it somewhere else. And at

646
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: first I was like, what you know, and then I

647
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I am now experiencing that too. I'm like,

648
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: like you said, I can't because it would create instability

649
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: in the home if I allowed the fullness of something

650
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: we were just in it. Everybody who listened to you

651
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: already know, like you know, when I say, as far

652
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: as money is concerned, when I say we scrape in

653
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel, I mean it's paint chips

654
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: coming out them, good spood things.

655
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

656
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: But so because of that, I had to learn a

657
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: lot about my plumbing. I can solder now. I was

658
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: up under the thing changing the I know what a

659
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: galvanized pipe is.

660
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: Now, you know what I'm saying.

661
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Right, So I had to learn all this and then

662
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: after it was done, I had to go do a

663
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: so I had to. I was like, Okay, I made

664
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: sure everything's done. Okay, I did it. I can't breathe.

665
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I lost my voice from breathing the dirt

666
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: under the house.

667
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

668
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: But I'm like, but I had to go do the gig.

669
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: I get a call from from Alma and she's like, hey,

670
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: the backhouse, the sink's clogged. I'd been working on the

671
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: plumbing for the last week.

672
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

673
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, all right, I'll fix when I

674
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: get home. You know what I'm saying. You just and

675
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not this like Martyrdom. It's more like,

676
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: like you said, like, let me be aware of what

677
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: you're coming into. So what I said in my heart

678
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: after I was just like, oh my god. Another thing.

679
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: It was more like I am thankful that she trusts me.

680
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: I'm thankful that she could feel safe enough to be like, oh,

681
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: I better not tell him because he's gonna explode, you know,

682
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: just being like Okay, hey, this is what's going on

683
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: with the sink.

684
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah cool.

685
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: I Now again I think about this, you could be

686
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: the storm or the safe harbor. So I was like, like,

687
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: in this moment, I was a safe.

688
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: Harbor for her.

689
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, which means the waves are gonna break on me,

690
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Let them break you know?

691
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? But when do you But when do you get taught?

692
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Because that's the thing.

693
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: It's like, man, you're like, yo, you want to hold back.

694
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: You have to hold back so that they can be free.

695
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: But then when are you free? You know what?

696
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Which is what I'm saying in the sense that she

697
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: was wise enough to be like, I know, there are

698
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: things I have to get somewhere else. So she was

699
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: wise enough to say, you have to get that somewhere else. Yeah,

700
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, at first I thought, like, I said,

701
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: what are you saying? Yeah, And now I know what

702
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: she's saying is that, yes, where are your friends? Where

703
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: are you? Where? Where do you get to? And then

704
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: so then once you have that the type of vulnerability

705
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: you can bring in here. We are now prepared for

706
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: because this version has been taken care of. And boy, boy, like,

707
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm such a better parent now, such

708
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: a better partner.

709
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, that's that's dope. That's dope.

710
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: I love that.

711
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: And event had that same conversation with me. You know,

712
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: we have to constantly remind each other who we are.

713
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: You know, like I say, you know, hey, I'm not

714
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: your father.

715
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I'm saying.

716
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: So things that things that he may have done, like

717
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: I have no intention to do any of that. You

718
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, areas he may have dropped the ball.

719
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: And I know you are not my mother. I trust

720
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 3: you in this area.

721
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: So we have to always just constantly and then say

722
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 4: go be with your friends, you know what I'm saying.

723
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: Like right now, I'm in Baltimore cause I got to

724
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: go see the homie who got an unfortunate accident.

725
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: You know, she missed out on having a spa day

726
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: with one of her girlfriends, which is supposed to be today,

727
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But she held space with

728
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: me so I could pull up.

729
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: And that's that's more of the work that I want

730
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: my children to see you know what I'm saying, because

731
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: that you know what I'm saying, like it needs to

732
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: go full circle where.

733
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna give you a rapid fire.

734
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: Let's first of all, thank you again. I'm gonna give

735
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: you rapid fire of some not so serious stuff. Okay,

736
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: and I just I need some Glenn takes.

737
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: Okay.

738
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Okay. So so first of all, one of which is

739
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: related to fatherhood, and it's Brownie James. Oh what what?

740
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: What?

741
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: What are the thoughts?

742
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: All right?

743
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: So, first of all, Lebron James is the greatest human

744
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: to play basketball. Okay, still think Michael George to go.

745
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: Lebron James is the greatest human his humanity appreciate that,

746
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: and so what let that.

747
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Get his whatever cuz, Bro, I don't care.

748
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, he's sitting left bench anyway. You know what

749
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, what's the damn difference?

750
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: Let him run it up? Man?

751
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that one. All right. The next one,

752
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: I've noticed that the y ns have discovered the quarter zip.

753
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: So obviously you know you and I are from a

755
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: very similar generation of like when like when we said

756
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: we was outside, like we really meant it.

757
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: There was a level of little shirts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

758
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: There was a level of violence that we carried, but

759
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: we was a little but we was kind of shining,

760
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, Paulo shirts, the button ups, you

761
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like we looked good outside. Yeah,

762
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: whyans are different, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but

763
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: I've noticed I've noticed that, like they starting to care

764
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

765
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 4: You know, man, I just love seeing black black people

766
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: shine in any way. Like I'm gonna be honest, Like

767
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: it's just so fascinating to me, you know what I'm saying,

768
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: how things catch on and like dudes is really shining

769
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 4: and young looking good.

770
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

771
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: Just it's just I don't know, man, I feel like

772
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: it's very positive. It's but that's a weird trend to

773
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: hop on that. I mean, that's like a sweater vest

774
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: to me, Like why quarters it? But I remember we

775
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: used to rock the quarters it like, but they were.

776
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Follow ones Yeah, with the big pocket on the bottom.

777
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. You know what I'm saying.

778
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: We had the fleeces, we had the quarter joints, We

779
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: had the button up all the way up to the top,

780
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying, like, but yeah, man, I

781
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: love that.

782
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: I love that trend.

783
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Uh two more one of them is like, okay,

784
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: who rapping right now? If you were out here listening,

785
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: like who is barring out?

786
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: All right?

787
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 4: Man, I don't want I'm not trying to keep it Christian,

788
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: but that boy, John Keith is making.

789
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: John rapping like so proud?

790
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, God, is he wanted your little homies

791
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: Like let's let's let's be real.

792
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you know, if we're gonna

793
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: keep it a bunk a buck. He's a chip off

794
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: the John Gibbs block.

795
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: He's a okay, so he one of your little homies,

796
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: little homies.

797
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: Okay, well yeah, I would say so now he is

798
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: the little homie. But he I feel like he's really

799
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: like John style, Like I feel like he adopted that.

800
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: John Keith is really one of the ones that I

801
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: think can do no wrong.

802
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: He's probably my favorite right now. So I would agree.

803
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: I think that there is Okay, now this is this

804
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna we're talking bar for Bar. I'm just like, while

805
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: we like his like his tape with Miles, I'm like,

806
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: if we're talking just bar for bar. Yeah, John carried

807
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: that tape. You know. Now he can't make us a

808
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: bad song. Now, I am at somebody who is like

809
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: again cut from the cloth where it's like, I don't

810
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I've I don't know, I don't know

811
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: if i've like i've, I've never made a hit, Like

812
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 1: I don't know how to make a hit, but I will.

813
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: But go back and go back and check the catalog.

814
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah no, y'all not rapping like prop.

815
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

816
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: So so to me, I'm like, Miles has that thing,

817
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: like Miles can make a hit like you can think,

818
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and that is something that I just

819
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: don't have, you know what I'm saying, John to me

820
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: has that, He's got that, He's got that that that

821
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: hybrid Kendrick power of him of like I he.

822
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: The right time and he produces, he could dance.

823
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: Give him get given the right given the right runway,

824
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: the right amount of time on that runway, He's gonna

825
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: make some hits.

826
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need, we need, we need to figure out

827
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: how to support him in whatever way possible that the

828
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: ogs can you know what I'm saying, Like that, that's it.

829
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: So I love that. And then you know who hasn't.

830
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: Ever fallen off? But I say, Jackie Hill Perry, the.

831
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: Girl can rap, man, man, the girl.

832
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: Can rap and not not even like just as a woman,

833
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 4: like she just rapped.

834
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: She can just rap, you know what I'm saying. She

835
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: can just rap now.

836
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: Okay.

837
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: So the last one is hm very political. You can

838
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you can? You can past or you can you can?

839
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: You can drop me?

840
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: Now?

841
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Need you to give me the most wildest theory conspiracy

842
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: theory or not about Jeffrey Epstein and the Epstein Files.

843
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: Oh man, this is like my favorite It's like my

844
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 4: little favorite pastime right here.

845
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: So okay, talk to me.

846
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 3: Oh man.

847
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: I think I think, Oh, Jeffrey Epstein and the Epstein Files, Man,

848
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: I think everybody is in that hole.

849
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: Every what are y'all jokers?

850
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 3: I think everybody in there.

851
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: And I think if it comes out like just I

852
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: think the world's gonna burn.

853
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: Man.

854
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: I think I think the celebrity already is dying, right,

855
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: Like people don't care, like you know, Beyonce, you know

856
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, take no pictures?

857
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you don't care.

858
00:49:54,719 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 4: But to see this whole Epstein thing, like I think

859
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: that there's so many different types of people, uh that

860
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if we are. I don't think it's

861
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: ever gonna come out. But if it does come out,

862
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: I think I think it will expose the fact that

863
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: we really don't care about children like we say we do.

864
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: Because the people who need to get protected, they're gonna

865
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: stay protected. You know what I mean is they're not

866
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: gonna let They're not gonna.

867
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: Let themselves burn. Bro, it would be ridiculous.

868
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and man, cashpertell man, that guy gotta get up

869
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 4: out of here.

870
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: Man, we gotta get come up out of here.

871
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 4: Bro.

872
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: Yes, he's the most suspicious looking person I've ever seen

873
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: in my life.

874
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: Though, Sir, you look like he just looked like he

875
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: just did four lines.

876
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: It looked like Beaker off the Sesame Street. Bro.

877
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: I know you ain't call him Beaker, right.

878
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: He looked like a muppet.

879
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Bro.

880
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: He gotta get up out of a muppet.

881
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: Like.

882
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you want to like you want to be

883
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: a star, And it's clear you want to be like

884
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: you want to be an influencer. Which actually, man, I

885
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: we didn't get to this, but I wanted to talk

886
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: about that, like like which which Manosphere dude, are you

887
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: like I slapped the ship out of you?

888
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: Like?

889
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: And which mano spheared because you brought up the phrase.

890
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: But like, I feel like with him he because I'm like,

891
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: if you running the FBI, my g why is you

892
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: tweeting pictures of an active investor? Do you do you

893
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: understand your job anyway? But but I'm like, you want

894
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: to be a manosphere dude, So anyway, who are you

895
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: slapping the ship out of? Or you?

896
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 4: Like?

897
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: If I like, if I ever see one of my

898
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: sons pull up this YouTube video, We're gonna have an.

899
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: Issue them fresh and fit dudes. Okay, you know they

900
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 4: so corny to me? Yeah, Andrew take super I don't

901
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: think I can run a fade with him because I

902
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: know he really I mean really yeah, but you know

903
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: I'll figure out a way, you know what I'm saying.

904
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: But uh, that's people outside of the community. I feel

905
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: like I need to have a conversation with doctor Umardo.

906
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: We gotta we gotta knock it off, man. He ever

907
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 4: since that stuff came out about his daughter, bro give

908
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: me the heat talk.

909
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I like there was part of me that

910
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: always kind of had my eyebrow up, like is this

911
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: a lick? Like are you running a lick here? You know?

912
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: And then and yeah, I just the the intersection like

913
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, like Massogy Noir where it's just like, okay,

914
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: is this you like, I don't know if this is

915
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: helping man, like you know what I'm saying, Like I

916
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: just I remember, yes, I have never especially like you know,

917
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: we are are our family being, you know, the black

918
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: and brown you know community sort of like the symbol

919
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: of that. I'm I'm always leary of anybody's content that

920
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: pits our communities against each other, you know, Like I'm

921
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: always leary of that where I'm like, okay, wait, what

922
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: are you trying to say here? You know what I'm saying.

923
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: So so I feel the same way about black men

924
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: and black women. I'm leary of anybody that are setting

925
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: us up as in competition with each other. I'm like,

926
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: slow down, bro, like I don't what are you trying

927
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: to say here?

928
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

929
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate his character, like he's funny. He's very funny,

930
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 4: and I love that he's honest about his vices because

931
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: I love that about black men just being honest about it.

932
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

933
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a wandering eye. You know what I'm saying.

934
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: Yes, but the way he it's you know, the superiority

935
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: think bugs the uh, the the stuff with his daughter

936
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: bugs me.

937
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

938
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, you can't say that. You can't say

939
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: what you're talking about and say that like it makes

940
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 4: no sense. Yeah, you know what I mean.

941
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: So, yeah, that that's that's what I'm on right now.

942
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: But man, I think it's I think it's a lot

943
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 4: of unhealthy stuff going on, especially when you realize all

944
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: the skeletons, you know what I'm saying.

945
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, hey man, you know what.

946
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Do you know? Right?

947
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: Exactly? Yeah, exactly? So the book drops.

948
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: Dropped already, k Okay, follow yourself, fother yourself.

949
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: It's been out.

950
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm going down around the random Barns and Nobles and

951
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 4: signing them holes so you can pull up you know

952
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying and check the signatures in there. I'll

953
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: be doing some more pop ups. I'm doing one in

954
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: DC for sure. I'm gonna do one in Oakland where

955
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm doing some book signings. But yeah, I'm gon way

956
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: to the New York because the holidays getting a little crazy. Yeah,

957
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, man, I appreciate the platform for.

958
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: Real of course.

959
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 3: Man.

960
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: Now we love you. I always love you, man, and

961
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: we gotta love you. Get a real kick it in,

962
00:54:46,880 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: yeah for sure? All right, y'all, All right now don't

963
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: you hit stop on this pod. You better listen to

964
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: these credits. I need you to finish this thing so

965
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,520
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966
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981
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Speaker 1: killing the beats softly, So listen, don't let nobody lie

982
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Speaker 1: to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.

983
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Speaker 1: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all

984
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Speaker 1: next week.