1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition of the 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra Podcast. We have got a loaded week, 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: got a nice show for you this morning, a little 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: bit different swerve to it, but got a nice show 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: for you this morning. Happy as always to have you listening. 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: It is December seventeenth, and yet we've still got Conference 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Championship Saturday to go. We're fresh off of early signing Day. 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: More on that in just a second, much more, actually 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: in just a second. So what do we do on 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: this Well, as I am reminded constantly, we have new 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: listeners every week, and so I have to remind you 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast a little bit different from 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: what we do over on YouTube, what we do on 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: YouTube's Late Kick Live. Well, this is in addition to that, 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: it's podcast only. It's Q and A. So you submit 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: questions Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com, 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: at Latekickjosh on Twitter, and I answer them. However, this 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: morning it may sound a little bit different because we're 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: coming off of, as I said, early signing Day. I 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: just call it National signing Day now. So a lot 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: of you had recruiting questions by the dozens and dozens 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: and I'm maybe hundreds I didn't count them up at 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: least several dozen. And so what I was gonna do 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: is I was just going to kind of give some 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on what yesterday was like. And boy do I 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: have thoughts. So many of you watched the show yesterday. 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: How could you not? We had eight hours of it. 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: You had to accidentally have stumbled upon it once or 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: twice at least. But let me tell you a lot 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: of people did a lot of really good work yesterday. 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: So some of you actually asked questions about the show, 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: not about what we covered, not about how's Auburn's recruiting 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: class going to finish or anything like that. You did 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: ask that, but you also just asked about the show. 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: So we were told a few weeks ago we were 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: going to do an eight hour signing day show. Now 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: at the time when someone tells you you're going to 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: do something eight hours to figure, well, that's impossible. So 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: obviously that'll be shaved down and people will realize, oh, 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: that can't happen. Well, we got closer and it never 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: got shaved down. So yes, eight hours. Oh by the way, 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be live and there will be no breaks. 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: So as you just heard me, do you just it's 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: kind of exhale, but then you accept a challenge and 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: so let's go do it. And so what happened was 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: we have not seen each other. A lot of us 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: who work for twenty four to seven, we haven't seen 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: each other in person since we walked out of the office. 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: I believe March thirteenth, March twelfth or thirteenth. Bo one 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: of our high level mustaches, even though he himself doesn't 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: have one. And this is the first time I've ever 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: been able to reference Bo in the podcast. Saw him 53 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: walk back to HR, saw him walk out of HR, 54 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, we're out of here. We're not 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: coming back in here tomorrow. And that's about the time 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: everyone got sent home from work. So you remember what 57 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: that time was like. It was spring, you know, everything 58 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: is blooming and it's sunny and the weather's warming up, 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: and yet everything got really dark really quick. So I 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: have not seen Barton Simmons, I have not seen Tray Scott, 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: A lot of the guys that some you do know, 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: some you don't know. I haven't seeing these people in 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: person since then. So that's eight months ago, seven months ago, 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: something like that. So we had to go get COVID 65 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: tested the day before, and that's the old swab up 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: the nose, warned the nurse that I may sneeze on 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: her if it tickles a deal, and all that happened, 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: and I did test negative. So that was fun, and 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: we all tested negative. So we get to go in 70 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: the studio. We linked up with CBS HQ down in 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, so it was Barton and myself on the 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: desk here. We had Steve Wilfong on a separate desk 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: in our Nashville studio, and then we had Bud Elliott 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and Brady Quinn down in Fort Lauderdale. And it was 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: back and forth as you saw pretty much all day. 76 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: But so someone asked, and this was kind of funny 77 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: because I never thought about this. Someone asked about our teleprompter. 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: That was one of the questions from let me scroll here, Jeffrey. 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: So Jeffrey asked, how do you write an eight hour show? 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: How does someone load? Like, how does someone load a teleprompter? Jeffrey. 81 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: They don't, that's the answer. They don't, at least not 82 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: around here. There is no teleprompter. We just go, which 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: is a blessing because if there was a teleprompter. Your 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: boy would not be talking to you this morning. I'd 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: be in a coma somewhere, no way, no how. And 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: so fortunately the folks down at CBS Sports HQ trusted 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: us enough and gave us enough rope to where we 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: could do our thing. And so it was I think 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: pretty easy for me because I'm not the one who 90 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: has to have all that information readily available. But you know, 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: tossing to Barton constantly, tossing to Steve constantly, you had 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Bud down in Fort Lauderdale that it was a really 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: really I thought, a really good show. Like we were 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: very proud of the product that we were able to 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: put out. There a lot of folks behind the scenes 96 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: from the editorial side, you know, we had an entire 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: machine of video editors that were pumping stuff out here yesterday, 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: we had an entire team of folks on desk that 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: were pumping articles out I saw some some of the 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: content numbers that we did just for twenty four to 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: seven Sports yesterday that were incredible. And then you get 102 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: down to the team sites and see, that's really how 103 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: I grew up coming to understand the recruiting industry is 104 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: the team site and It all bleeds up to the 105 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: national level, obviously, but that's the foundation that's really built on, 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: is the network of team sites. And whether you're an 107 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: LSU fan, or a Michigan fan, or a South Carolina fan, 108 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: Alabama fan, whatever the case may be, you know what 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You've got your Bama online, your horns 110 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven and Dog's twenty four to seven, 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: and your glued to that all day. And there are 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: awesome people who are working countless tired hours just like 113 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: we were nationally. The only difference is you don't get 114 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: to constantly see their face all the time. But make 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: no mistake, that's not forgotten. And we had some of 116 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: our team site guys on yesterday to talk about I 117 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: believe it was Donovan Edwards, Big four star running back 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Sam Webb had him on, Tom Lloyd, Rusty Manzel, but 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: dozens and dozen and dozens of folks coast to coast 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: yesterday making sure that that went off largely without a hitch, 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: didn't have any real hiccups. I think we had one 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: microphone go out, but that was about it. So from 123 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: the team site level to the national editorial level, both 124 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: places Fort Lauderdale and Nashville really really good stuff. Really 125 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed it and really appreciated the feedback that you guys had. 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: So that was just kind of a walk through sort 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: of how we put that together and how we were 128 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: able to make that get on air, and hopefully you 129 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. So having said that, what about what we covered? 130 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: You know, that was really what I wanted to talk 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: about this morning. And fortunately when I woke up a 132 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: couple hours ago and I looked in the inbox and 133 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: started to aggregate, I said, oh, look, that's pretty much 134 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: what they want to talk about too. Now I'm not 135 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna hopefully I'm not. I can't promise. I don't plan 136 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: on diving into the weeds of, you know, breaking down 137 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: the intricacies of the left side of the offensive line 138 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: recruiting class for LSU. I'm not going to do that. 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: But here's what I know. I know a lot of 140 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: you are hardcore recruiting fans, but I also know some 141 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: of you are hardcore college football fans, and you watch 142 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the product on Saturday and you follow coaching searches, but 143 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: maybe you don't have time, nor do you have really 144 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: the energy to invest in knowing about recruiting, but you 145 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: know how important it is. It's like if you watch 146 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, but you don't really follow the draft just 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: because I don't want to keep up with that. I mean, 148 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: I'll know them eventually when they get here. I understand 149 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: that I understand having a live well, excuse me, let 150 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: me rephrase. I understand that some of you out there 151 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: have lives and responsibilities and whatnot, and you're not getting 152 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: paid to cover this stuff all the time, nor even 153 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: if you do it free, do you have the energy 154 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: to do it all the time. So I'm here for you. 155 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you kind of a broad strokes 156 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: where you can understand what happened yesterday, where you can 157 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: sound like you've taken a deep dive into this stuff 158 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: over the last eight to twelve months, and you really haven't. 159 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: First thing you need to know, Nick Saban is an assassin, 160 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: really good at recruiting. As it turns out, there was 161 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: a time I went back and looked in our archives 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: on Late Kick Live, and it was May. It was 163 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: like I tweeted the clip yesterday and it was the 164 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: time where obviously we're into the pandemic at that point, 165 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and Alabama was ranked forty first in recruiting. Side note, 166 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee was ranked in the top five. In fact, it 167 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: was a really weird looking top five top ten. At 168 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: the time, there were some schools up there that normally 169 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: aren't up there, and so there was some panic. Now, 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: no one will admit this now, but I remember it. 171 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: That was the entire reason I was doing the segment 172 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: was there was some panic. And I don't mean panic 173 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: by my mom. I don't mean panic by the bus 174 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: driver that stops outside my apartment. Here I'm talking about 175 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Alabama fans. And you know who you are. You don't 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: have to out yourself publicly. I care for you, guys, 177 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: I understand, but you know as well as I do. 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Which one of you, several of you actually were filling 179 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: my inbox and filling my Twitter dms asking what's up 180 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: with Alabama recruiting? Well? Nothing. I think they had one 181 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: kid committed for a while, Deontay Lawson, I want to say, 182 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: was the kid they had committed for a while. So anyway, 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: we do a segment and I essentially made probably the 184 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: least bold proclamation that I've ever made on air or otherwise, 185 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: and I said, I think Alabama's still going to finish 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: in the top five. I think they're going to be okay, 187 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: And as it turns out in retrospect, my only regret 188 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: is I wish I would have been more forceful, and 189 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: I wish I would have been a little bit more 190 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: aggressive with the prediction. I wish I would have just 191 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: taken a shot and said they're going to finish number one, 192 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: because friends, they're probably finish number one. And not only that, 193 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: they sit here as we're talking to each other this morning, 194 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: on Thursday morning, they are the number one class in 195 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: the country by a pretty wide margin at the moment, 196 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: over Ohio State. And so I want to pause there. 197 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to get back to Alabama. But speaking of 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: Ohio State in that same time period, on that same show, 199 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: I think in late May, that was around the time 200 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: where we were talking about Ohio State as having a 201 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: virtual death grip on having the number one overall class 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: in the country for this cycle, and were they going 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: to have the highest rated class of all time And 204 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State's sitting here at the number two spot right now. 205 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: But it was thought of as just lunacy heresy if 206 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: you were to suggest anything other back then then Ohio 207 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: State's going to have the number one class in the country, 208 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: which goes to show you there are no certainties in 209 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: the world of recruiting ever, much less in spring, doubly 210 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: much less in a pandemic season. I don't know what 211 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: that means. I just keep throwing it in there as 212 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: everyone else seems to do well. It's pandemic year. You know, 213 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: it's a COVID year. You know how those COVID years are. 214 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: By the way, think back, you know what's your favorite 215 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: COVID year in college football? What are your most lasting 216 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: memories from COVID years in college football? Okay, so now 217 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: that was in May, and we fast forward. It's late December. 218 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: It's early signing period. There's Alabama with a three hundred 219 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: and nineteen overall score on their class, Ohio State behind 220 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: them at three ten. Just to give you an idea, 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: those are the only two teams with classes rated above 222 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: three hundred. That three hundred benchmark is sort of the benchmark. 223 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: As Barton Simmons said, I think on the air yesterday, 224 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: for what you would consider an elite class, you know, 225 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: to listen, if you're in the two seventies, that's a 226 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: really good class. Oregon is at two eighty. That's the 227 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: number six class in the country. Oklahoma number seven to 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: sixty eight, Florida number eight to sixty seven. These are 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: really good classes. By comparison, Alabama is sitting here at 230 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: three nineteen, Ohio State three ten, and then Georgia two 231 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: ninety four. To give you an idea of how why 232 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: that gap gets when you're talking about the elite, elite 233 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: elite recruiters. But here's what I want you to know. 234 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: With Alabama, yesterday, we go in there and you're talking 235 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: about folks who have followed this stuff in the case 236 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: of Steve wilt Fong and Barton Simmons, for example, daily, 237 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: hour by hour, day by day. We go in there 238 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: yesterday and we know that we're about to have to 239 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: talk for eight hours, okay, And sometimes when you get 240 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: on air you have to be glued to stuff or 241 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: else you can start to miss the undercurrent, the subcurrent. 242 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Those of you who are hardcore recruiting fans, you know 243 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot of you are dialed in on message boards 244 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: and dialed in on Twitter because stuff is changing. It's 245 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: changing really minute by minute sometimes and as you can imagine, 246 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: if you have the responsibility of being on air, then 247 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you can lose track as you're following a format 248 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: and you got cues in your ear and you're trying 249 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: to follow elements on screen and you're tossing here, tossing there. Well, 250 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: you can't follow. All right, what's happening with this announcement 251 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: that's coming up at ten fifteen? What are we hearing 252 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: right beforehand? You guys actually are probably more in tune 253 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: with that sometimes than we are. Well, there starts to 254 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: be this little drip, drip drip of information about Alabama, 255 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: and it was thought they were probably going to have 256 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: a pretty quiet day. Their goal was, as far as 257 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: we could tell, to make sure all their early enrollies 258 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: were early en rollies. They all signed, and by the way, 259 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: twenty four out of twenty four kids in Alabama's class 260 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: have signed. It's the first time in history they've done that. 261 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: Every one of their siginees is an early enrollie. So 262 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: you start to get a little drip, drip drip, and 263 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: we start to hear rumors about kids who could flip 264 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: to Alabama. Now, one of them was Keanu Cote, and 265 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't the biggest shock in the world that he 266 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: flipped from LSU to Alabama. That's ay, by the way 267 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: of six', four about two hundred and twenty pound defensive 268 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: end From. Florida it wasn't the biggest. Shock there were 269 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: whispers behind the scenes about that that's not the one 270 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: that really got. Us the one that really got us 271 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: was you get later in the day and we were 272 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: focused on a kid Named Xavier. Worthy Xavier, worthy he's 273 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: a four star. Receiver he's out Of. California he's been 274 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: committed To, michigan and he was down To michigan In. Alabama, 275 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: really there was just some there was some concern or 276 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: maybe interest as to whether he would stick With michigan 277 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: or whether he may flip To. Alabama alabama doesn't lose 278 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: out on many wide receivers they, target and So Xavier 279 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: worthy ends up sticking With. Michigan, okay so you think to, yourself, 280 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: well all, Right bama just missed on that wide. Receiver, 281 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: hey it's, rare but it. Happens you figure, though all, 282 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: right that's going to be the. Class that's a wrap For, 283 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: Alabama and all of a, sudden at about three. O'clock 284 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: so keep in, mind we've been on air since eight Am, 285 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: central NonStop no. Break all of a, sudden we toss 286 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: up To Steve, wilfong like we've done a dozen or 287 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: so times already in the, show AND i tossed to 288 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: him to talk about a specific. Person, Okay Will fong 289 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: takes an off. RAMP i, mean he just grabs the, 290 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: steering wheeling er and everyone's screaming and they're holding on 291 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: for dear. Life and Will fong, says, hey Jojo, earl 292 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: what do you guys know about? Him, well he's going TO, 293 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Lsu that's WHAT i. Know and Then will fongk drops 294 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: the OLD i don't know about. That and Jojo earl 295 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: was not a guy that was on anyone's radar when 296 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: we walked in that studio yesterday. Morning well here's what, 297 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: happens just to give you an idea of What Nick 298 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: saban's doing right. Now Jojo earl was committed TO. Lsu 299 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: he was ready to sign WITH. Lsu he is a 300 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: high four star wide receiver out Of. Texas no one 301 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: even had him on their. Radar no one in The 302 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: alabama circles was talking about. Him as it turns, out 303 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: this guy was an option For alabama all. Along WHEN i, 304 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Say Nick saban's an. Assassin here's WHAT i. MEAN lsu 305 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: is one Of alabama's biggest. Rivals this, Kid Jojoe, earl 306 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: was committed TO, lsu and all the, while unbeknownst TO 307 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: lsu or anyone, else was an option For. Alabama he 308 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: was waiting on the, call essentially just waiting on the, 309 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: call and When Xavier worthy doesn't come, Through Nick saban 310 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: makes the call and right there on signing, day in 311 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: front Of god and, everyone he is going to his 312 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: rival's recruiting list and essentially, saying all, Right i'll take that, 313 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: one And Jojo earl says all, right and he comes 314 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: on down and so, boom you Got Jojo. Earle AND 315 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: i watched that AND i couldn't REALLY i couldn't really 316 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: fully appreciate what was happening as we were live on. 317 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Air but, man oh, man could you imagine? That and 318 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: it's just like watching him and he never cracks the 319 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Smiles Nick, Saban Steve wolfong does Watching Nick, saban he 320 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: never cracks a. Smile it's just business as, usual ho. 321 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Hum and yet to the rest of the, world it's 322 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: like watching a movie and like watching an assassin go to. 323 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: Work figuratively of, course just taking whatever you, want virtually 324 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: whatever you. Want so this class For alabama is, insane just. 325 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: Amazing they've got four of the top nine receivers in 326 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: the country. Committed they've got both the top offensive tackles 327 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: in the country. Committed Dallas turner is my favorite player 328 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: in this. Class. Probably he's a five star defensive end 329 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: out Of Fort lauderdale down In South. Florida he did 330 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: his commitment on air WITH. Us, actually so that class is. 331 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: Loaded there are a lot of other loaded. Classes Ohio 332 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: state's got a phenomenal. Class they may not be. Done 333 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: they signed the number one overall receiver in the country 334 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: who committed about a week, ago A Mecca agbuka had 335 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him yesterday on. Air really impressive. 336 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: KID i know that sometimes if you're a little bit, 337 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: older you, Know i'm not a high school aged kid. 338 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Anymore So i'm in my. Thirties i'm talking to a 339 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: kid who's seventeen or eighteen years, old depending on when 340 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: his birthday. Is a lot of times you're used to 341 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: talking to people your, age so it's not all that 342 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: shocking when someone is able to put together really well 343 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: structured sentences when they're giving a response to a. Question 344 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: but then you got to, remember, no, no, no no, 345 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: No i'm not talking to a guy who is thirty 346 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: one or thirty. Two i'm talking to a guy who's 347 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: seventeen or. EIGHTEEN i remember WHAT i sounded like WHEN 348 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: i was seventeen or. EIGHTEEN i didn't sound like a mecha. 349 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: BOOGLE i can promise you. That AND i fancied myself 350 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: as having a future in the media, industry SO i 351 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: had every reason to try and structure sentences correctly and 352 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: try and sound halfway. Coherent he was really, impressive it's 353 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: What i'm, saying and well, thought well. Spoken he's very 354 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: cerebral in, nature and he's a guy who is going 355 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: into a situation At Ohio state where he knows as 356 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: a wide, receiver his position group is. LOADED i always 357 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: have respect for guys like, that, because by, default if 358 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: you were ever going to start as a wide receiver 359 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: At Ohio, state you have to have that. Mentality you 360 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: can't be looking for the path of least. Resistance it'll 361 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: never exist In. Columbus you gotta have a guy who 362 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: who wants to go and fight and earn a. Spot 363 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: that's how they do it. There that's how they do 364 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: it At, Alabama that's how they do it at places 365 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: where you know going in they're loaded pretty much. Everywhere 366 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: Ohio state's got a really really good. Class and we 367 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: were reading on area yesterday their top. Signees so they have, one, two, 368 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: three four. Fives they got five kids currently committed rated five, 369 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: stars and they got several other high four. STARS i 370 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: don't want to limit this or act like there's a. 371 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: Cutoff just for an example, Here i'm gonna read you 372 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: their five star kids and where they're. From Jack sawyer 373 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: is From. Ohio he's From, Pickerton. Ohio. Okay Mecca agbuka 374 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: just mentioned, him the wide. Receiver he's From Washington. State 375 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Donovan jackson is a five star offensive. Lineman he is From. 376 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: Texas Trevion henderson is a five star running. Back he's From. 377 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Virginia kyle McCord is a five star. Quarterback he's From, 378 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: pennsylvania The philadelphia. Area do you NOTICE i could keep? 379 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: GOING i Mean Jacqueline johnson is their next highest rated. 380 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Kid he's a. Corner he's From. Missouri they go all 381 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: over the. Place it's a national recruiting. Effort it's really 382 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: incredible to watch it. Happen it's really incredible to watch 383 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: a current battle happening between programs Like Ohio state And 384 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: alabama for kids that are in The Pacific, northwest just doesn't. 385 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: Matter state, boundaries state, lines they don't matter to the biggest. 386 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Programs And i've talked about that before on this podcast and. 387 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: Elsewhere state, lines state, boundaries they matter less and less every. 388 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Year that's what. Technology it's one of the side effects 389 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: of technology and social, media and a lot of times 390 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: that's used to explain away. Things hey why is it 391 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: raining so much? Today, well you, know with social media and, Everything, 392 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: hey why is this muffin not cooked all the? Way, 393 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: well you, know with social media and, everything sometimes that 394 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: just spills out of people's. Mouths but in this, case it's. 395 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: True if you were let's say you're forty five years 396 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: old listening to, this we got folks of all ages who. 397 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: Listen if you're forty five years, old that means you 398 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: were born when you were born mid, seventies and so 399 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: you would, have you, know come of age in the mid, 400 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: eighties late, eighties early. Nineties, well obviously you didn't have 401 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: a cell, phone and therefore you didn't really Have internet, 402 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: either and you didn't have the ability to freely and 403 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: easily connect with kids all over the. Country that's commonplace, 404 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: now that's just. Reality it's as easy for kids to 405 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: hop On xbox and talk to someone three thousand miles 406 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: away as it was for you to walk across the 407 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: street and go visit your buddy at your neighbor's. House in, 408 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: fact it's easier for them to do that than it 409 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: was for you to do what you, did because at 410 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: least you had to get, up put your shoes, on 411 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: and walk. Outside and the point of that is no 412 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: one thinks about, distance geographic distance like they used, to 413 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and that's very important in. RECRUITING i don't think we 414 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: should overlook the job That oregan's. Doing oregon is sitting 415 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: here with the number six overall class In. America that's 416 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: good for number one by a fairly wide margin overall 417 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: in THE pac. Twelve AND i also want to remind 418 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: you this is right in the thick of them working 419 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: towards A pac twelve championship Game friday so. Tomorrow and 420 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: it's also right in the middle Of Mario cristobal at 421 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: least negotiating a contract extension out there that may be 422 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: official by the time you listen to. THIS i don't 423 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: know how that's going to shake. Out, however this is 424 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: a really impressive class and as we just, DID i, 425 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: mean this is obviously what you have to do At, 426 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: oregon as we just did With Ohio. State i'm not 427 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: going to read you the. Names i'll just read you 428 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: the kids', locations starting at the, Top, Utah, California, Arizona, Maryland, 429 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: Arizona oregon got an in state kid, There, California, Nevada, 430 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: Mississippi New, York, Utah, Colorado, Maryland, Arizona, California, Utah North, Carolina, Texas, California, Arizona. 431 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: California there is one in state, product And oregon itself 432 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: is a really big. State there is one in state 433 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: product in this entire. Class it's a national recruiting. Effort 434 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: Mario cristabal and his staff put together one of the 435 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: best recruiting classes that they have had in the history 436 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: Of oregon, football if we're honest with. Ourselves, ALSO i 437 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: want to talk about a, really really big. Disappointment i'll 438 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: do it right after. This that was probably the most 439 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: rushed ad toss That i've had in quite a, while 440 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: BUT i wanted to get to a, point SO i 441 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: tossed it to ad break really really. ABRUPTLY i want 442 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: to start. Scrolling, Okay So i'm sitting here looking at 443 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one class rankings for twenty four to seven. 444 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Sports all, Right i'm going to start scrolling right. Now 445 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: i'm scrolling at a leisurely. Pace there we. Go we're 446 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: through the. Teens now we're through the. Twenties all, right 447 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: we're through the, thirties and, boom there we see, it number. 448 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Forty The Auburn tigers had one of your, QUESTIONS i 449 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: actually several, Questions So i'll just answer it generically about 450 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: why they were so. Low, WELL i think PART a is, 451 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: obvious there's no head coach At auburn right. Now PART, 452 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: b no one knows who the head coach is going to, 453 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: be and PART c the remaining staff is not exactly 454 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: known as world beaters on the recruiting. Trail so that's 455 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: what you were trying to. SELL i think it is 456 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: really laughable to hear What i've heard out Of, auburn 457 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: which is the powers that be when it comes to 458 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: that recruiting search or that coaching. SEARCH i guess you 459 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: do recruit coaches is they don't really care and didn't 460 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: care the whole while about early signing. Day they weren't 461 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: working around the constraints of making sure they had an 462 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: announcement by early signing. Day, now that to me Is 463 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: i'm not going to say, unacceptable because there is no 464 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: perfect way to do it when the timeline is as it. 465 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: Is but to have the attitude completely on the other 466 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: side of the extreme to, say, well we don't care about, it, 467 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: yeah it's a little ridiculous. Too, well if you don't, 468 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: care this is what you. Get you get a class 469 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: that is number forty in the. Country just to give 470 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: you an idea of How auburn's class compares to the 471 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: likes Of. Alabama the five, star four, star three Star 472 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: auburn has zero four and nine five star four, star 473 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: three star For. Alabama alabama has six five, stars fourteen 474 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: four stars four to three. Stars some of you are 475 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: out there still misguided enough to believe stars don't. Matter, Okay, 476 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: well you check out who's playing in conference Championship, friday And, 477 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: sam you check out that playoff and you come back. 478 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: In you give me a, Dissertation give me fifteen hundred 479 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: words on how stars don't matter after you watch the. 480 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: Playoff So auburn's sitting here at number. Forty, Listen i'm 481 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: going to talk a lot more about the coaching search. 482 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: Tonight i've been trying to give you the latest as 483 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: we hear, it not necessarily just Filtering twitter, rumors but 484 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: trying to give you the latest tangible information as we 485 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: hear it On Late. KICK i got to tell you. 486 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Something one of the THOUGHTS i had in the back 487 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: of my mind the entire second half of our show 488 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: yesterday when we had talked About georgia AND lsu had 489 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: a good. Day georgia had a good, Day bama obviously 490 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: had a good. Day TEXAS a AND m is currently 491 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: sitting number eleven and could still have some. Additions i'm 492 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: just sitting there thinking about the fact That auburn plays 493 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: those teams every. Year they are not going to be 494 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: close in this year's. Cycle they have also not compared 495 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: to those classes in the last several. Cycles they better 496 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: get a lot more serious about their coaching search than 497 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: the way it seems to be trending. Now there could 498 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: be things going on behind the scenes we don't know. 499 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: About they may end up hitting a home. Run What 500 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: i'm telling you is anything less than a home run 501 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: is going to get steamrolled in THE sec by the 502 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: schedule That auburn has to play every. Year you got 503 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: to get really. Serious see this is WHY i almost 504 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: sounded a little bit aggravated when they Fired, malson or 505 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: the suggestion of Firing malson was floating around pretty substantially 506 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of. YEARS i was never anti making 507 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: a coaching. Move that's not WHAT i was. Against WHAT 508 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: i was against is making the move and then wading 509 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: out into the pool like you hadn't already taken a 510 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: dive in all the way to the bottom and found 511 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: what you were looking. For you can't afford to do. 512 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: That you can't just make a move from a guy 513 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: who was decent and expect that you could only. Upgrade, No, 514 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: no there's an opposite way you could. Go you could 515 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: completely fall into a dumpster and be an afterthought for a. 516 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: Decade that's the other side of the. Coin and if 517 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: you don't knock it out of the park with this, 518 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: hire that's what you're gonna. Be you're gonna be an after. 519 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Thought how could you be anything other than that this 520 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: schedule doesn't take a. Break these programs they are recruiting 521 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: to compete against each, other and if you want to 522 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: insert yourself into that, conversation they'll be happy to compete 523 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: against you. Too but if you don't insert yourself into the, 524 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: conversation they don't cancel the games with. You you still Play, Bama, GEORGIA, 525 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: lsu AND a AND m every, year on top of 526 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: whatever else you happen to draw on your, schedule both 527 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: in and out of. Conference the only difference is instead 528 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: of them circling, you you'll be the game where they, 529 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: say all, right let's get out of this one. Healthy 530 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: we'll run it up in the first half and then 531 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: we'll rest the. Starters we'll get some, backups some really 532 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: good quality playing time against the team that they used 533 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: to be pretty, good and they still get people's. Attention but, 534 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: hey we're favored by three and four touchdowns Against auburn 535 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: for a. Reason is that the future we want? Here? 536 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: NOW i know it's largely out of your, control but 537 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: if you supported the, move if you supported getting rid Of, 538 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: MALSON i just want you to remember. Something that guy 539 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: never recruited a top five. Class malson was never Building 540 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: auburn to a place where perennially they were going to be. 541 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: Elite there were problems with the. Program i'm not best 542 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: friends With Gus. Malson i'm not trying to gloss over 543 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: the inconsistencies that they had. There things were far from. 544 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: Perfect things weren't trending in the right. DIRECTION i grant 545 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: you all of. That What i'm telling you is there's 546 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: a difference between having a hole in the balloon and 547 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: just popping the balloon. Entirely so you had a hole 548 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: in the balloon With, malson but that's. Okay you can 549 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: still stay afloat with a hole in the. Balloon but 550 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: now to make a, move you may have just completely 551 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: punctured the balloon. Entirely, well there is no stay in a. 552 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Float would that be in the. Case so this coaching 553 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: search right now is still. Undecided it better be a home. 554 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: RUN i don't care who it. Is it better be 555 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: a home. Run And i'll tell you the other One 556 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: i'm really impressed, with and That's michigan at number. Twelve 557 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: michigan being at number twelve and the recruiting rankings makes 558 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: no sense to the casual. Fan the casual. Fan you, 559 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: know it probably makes about as much sense AS lsu 560 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: being number, four because the casual fan looks AT lsu 561 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: And michigan and, says, well so they had terrible. SEASONS 562 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: i MEAN lsu their season has been a disaster up 563 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: until Last, saturday and still nothing to write home About. 564 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Michigan they have woefully underachieved relative to. Expectation couldn't even 565 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: finish the. Year there's no way anyone wants to go play. 566 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: There and they're ranked what, wait what did you? Say fourth? 567 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: Twelve what doesn't make any, sense does. It i'll talk 568 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: ABOUT lsu a lot more tonight and in the coming. 569 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: Weeks But michigan sitting at number. Twelve not only are 570 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: they number, twelve they have their franchise quarterback in this class. 571 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: Now jj McCarthy's been committed for a long. Time he's 572 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: a five star, kid top twenty five overall in the, 573 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: country not the. Position he's number two overall in terms 574 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: of quarterback grades in the. Country that's a big time. 575 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: Get and obviously when you have the cornerstone of your 576 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: class being, quarterback you can get some other kids that 577 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: want to play with. Him case in, point their next 578 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: two highest rated. Commits Donovan edwards committed yesterday live on the. Show, 579 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: well he committed live while the show was. Happening he 580 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: did it in a blizzard, somewhere SO i don't worry 581 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: about him acclimating to the. Climate Donovan edwards is a 582 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: four star running, Back top fifty player. Overall he comes To, 583 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: Michigan Xavier, worthy top one hundred overall, player wide receiver 584 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: he comes To, michigan and so you're getting offensive skill up. 585 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: There you combine that with what they already Have. MICHIGAN 586 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: i know this sounds very counter to what you think of. 587 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: Them michigan's going to have one of the fastest wide 588 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: receiver corps in the country in the coming. YEARS i, 589 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: mean if all those kids, Play if all those kids pan, 590 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: out and we don't have any reason to believe they, 591 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: won't it's a crapshoot as, Always but if they do pan, 592 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: Out michigan football could look. Different this is why When 593 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: i've talked About Jim, Harbab i've SAID i didn't believe 594 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: in firing. Him whether he gets fired or whether he 595 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: moves on or, not that's an entirely different. DISCUSSION i 596 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: didn't believe in making the move on him only BECAUSE 597 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: i thought the move To Josh gaddis was probably the right. 598 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Move it was just never going to pan out. Immediately 599 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: Josh gaddis immediately did not have the right seat to work. 600 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: With you wanted him to grow an apple tree and 601 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: you gave him squash. Seeds, well you can't grow apples 602 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: with squash. Seeds you have to have the right. Seeds, well, 603 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: now finally to do what they want to do, offensively 604 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: we're starting to get the right seeds in. There so 605 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: the fact that they kept this class together and added 606 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: on to, it added big, pieces kept big, pieces and 607 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: they finished top fifteen in a year where there was 608 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: so much uncertainty and still is about the status and 609 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: long term future of this coaching staff and who's going 610 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: to be there and are we ever going to contend. 611 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: Again having said all, That michigan is currently sitting here 612 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: with a better class Than, tennessee Than southern cal Than, 613 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: texas Than Penn. State so that's a really good. Job 614 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: and you got to tip your cap to The michigan 615 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: coaching staff up there for keeping things on the, rails 616 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: and more than keeping them on the, rails they had 617 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: a stellar class yesterday and they closed, strong and that's what's. Important. 618 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: Right here's WHAT i want to remind. You it's a 619 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: big it's conference championship. Week we just came out of 620 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: the early signing. Date AND i also want to tell 621 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: you we got a big episode Of Late Kick live 622 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: coming up. 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