1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one with 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pop 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. Thank you guys for listening to the 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: podcast all around the world. 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I not know, not only we, the cannabis 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: community has done so many amazing things recently. And one 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: thing that I really want to say that was just 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: phenomenal was the Humanity Heroes thing that Big Mike put 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: out there. And this is where you know we been 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: did seven thousand backpacks and Big Mike had advanced nutrients 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: and his whole team. They just really did a phenomenal 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: job organizing this and allowing us to come and be contributors. 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: And Mark, I just want to point out to the 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: world that you and I but I'm mostly just saying 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: you because I'm acknowledging you, but we both took our 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: kids out there to show the world that you know, 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: this is normal man. You know we can be in 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: the cannabis game and bring our families out. It wasn't 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: a cannabis indulging events where anybody was using, but it 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: was the cannabis community coming together and we actually brought 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: our kids. And for those who didn't see it on 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Instagram the recap you can see Mark there with his 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: son bagging things and doing things and it was just 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: a real joy to do. The giveback so as it's 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: the holiday time and any time we're constantly giving back 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: and doing things, that right there just really touched my heart. 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Seeing what Big Mike did and how he gave us 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: a nice shout out on his page and all the 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: good stuff. I just want to say thank you to 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: everybody had Advanced Nutrients exhibit and his whole team over there, 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: um that they really did a great job and promoting this. 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Of course the G four Live people going out there, 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: the row my all Day Ace folks and people and 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Fast Capital, who else who I'm yeah CALLI effects Yeah. 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there was just a wealth of different companies 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: and brands being represented and coming out in force to 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: help out. And you know we also made the news. 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: We made k t L a Channel five local news 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: out here was was there and there was a I 62 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: don't know how it happened, but there was a nice 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: shot of me and my son. You know, it was wonderful. 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: I love seeing that clip in A big shout out 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: to Carlos from super Bad Inc. You know, super Bad 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: is a big brand out there. They have the Little 67 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Kims and a bunch of other things and a bunch 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: of other brands under them, but but they they were 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: out there and the point behind this, as you guys, 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: people went out of their way on days off, it 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: was on the weekends and doing these things. And it 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: was a bunch of people that we constantly see at 73 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the same place as same parties, same expos, all people 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: that are in the cannabis industry came together to really 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: support the community of southern California for this event. And 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: it was all pioneered and led by Big Mike's team 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: at Advanced New Autrients. And it's something that shouldn't be 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: overlooked and doesn't get enough publicity of oh look what 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: these guys did, and feel free please to go look 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: at our recap on Cannabis Talk one oh one or 81 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Big Mike's page at Advanced Nutrients. They did a nice 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: one as well, and so did Napalm. Everybody that just 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: really went out there and supported so that being said, 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: it just let me say one more thing. I want 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: to shout out to uh everybody at at at Cannabis 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one and Pop Brothers at Law, all 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: our team members who showed up, showed out, and particularly 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: the last when they gave them all out. I know 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: we were unable to be there with our kids. We 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: had other things going on, but we had representation Cannabis 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one and all its team players, Blue 92 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: going out there and do and everything he doesn't pack, 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: and the girls doing everything they can for Pop Brothers 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: at Law getting out there representing we will always show 95 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: out and show up in some form, are two our 96 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: two brands. Yeah, so it was nice, it was great, 97 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: it felt good and all that being said, if you're 98 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: looking to grow quality, see where do you need to go? 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Yeah, as I see you do the thumb 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: down and the hand down, which is crazy because the 109 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: US adolescent is from the story here. Cannabis use dropped 110 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: significant gently in one despite the ongoing legalization efforts, the 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: opening of more than a dozen states, of course legalizing 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: cannabis markets around the country has we thought would be 113 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: a spike everywhere from everyone and anybody, but we have 114 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: a big decline and with the spiker mental health concerns 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: relating to the pandemic. According to the data from the 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Monitoring the Future survey released that they looked into. But 117 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: this data shows a thirty eight percent year over year 118 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: decline in self reported cannabis use amongst eighth and tenth 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: graders and a thirteent decline amongst twelfth graders. That seniors 120 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: in high school, they're shocking to me, Taboo's gone, and 121 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: how only Taboo's gone. But it's a decline, meaning it 122 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: makes me think of when you know, you think of 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: these the blue Light district in Amsterdam, and is that 124 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: where you know it's all legal and all good to go. 125 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: That's where the decline is as well. It's not like 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: everyone is doing it and using it. The more you 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: put it out there and then the more you're educating kids. 128 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: And if you're a family that goes, I don't want 129 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: my tenth grader, I don't want my eleventh or twelfth grader, 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: let alone my eighth grader touching this. You know, fortunately 131 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: or unfortunately, we were those kids, you know that that 132 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: did that. And I'm not saying it's right or wrong. 133 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: And for those who do, and I know a lot 134 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: of families. I was literally talking to one of my 135 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: best friends, who was my best man in both my weddings, 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: was his best man at his wedding, My my best 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: conrade of all conrades, you know, my my go to. 138 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: His son was smoking and he's in high school and 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: they're not with that. You know, they're in they're in 140 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: a household where that's not okay. So you know, everybody 141 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: gets to set their rules. And it's funny because I 142 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: played Devil's advocate, going well how did his grades? Look? 143 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: How did is this? And it was there was a 144 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: few declines where I was like, okay, well there you go. 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: It makes sense. My thing is I have to look 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: at all things before I I mean to each their own, 147 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: your family, your households, your household, folks. But looking way 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the things out in my opinion, right Mark, I mean, 149 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: your son is in high school, he starts smoking weed. 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: How do you react as this survey comes out? If 151 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: he well, first of all, if he wanted to, he 152 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I would, I would hope he comes to mean. We 153 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: we do like my brother did long ago when his 154 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: kid was a teenager, and sit in the backyard and 155 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: let's see how this affect you. Let's see if if 156 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: you need it. Um, apparently my my oldest son is 157 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: the complete opposite of me and more like his mother. 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't I don't know that. I'll 159 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: never say i'll know for sure what's going to happen. 160 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: But if it does, that's how And I've already presented it. Right. 161 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: We're very open in our household with him. It's obvious 162 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: what I do and how I medicate. We've had we've 163 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: talked about it since all of our kids were, you know, 164 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: old enough to talk, and here they understood what dad 165 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: was doing. So I think it's something that when you 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: take that illegality away, especially with kids who are more boisterous, 167 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: more adventurous, maybe you know, willing to take a risk, 168 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: go on the edge. It's not so on the edge 169 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: if it's not illegal. So I think that the flare 170 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: of it is taken away to some degree, and that's 171 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: part of why we see this decline. Yeah, and then 172 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: in this study it says U S students across all 173 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: age groups also reported moderate increases, So there was a 174 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: decrease once again in the eighth, tenth, and twelfth graders UM. 175 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: But then it's just saying overall its report a moderate 176 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: increase and experiencing boredom, anxiety, depression, loneliness, worry difficulties, sleeping, 177 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: and other negative mental health indicators since the COVID pandemic. 178 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: And I think that becomes essential. We've all seen this 179 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: ship with us as adults, right, I mean, how bad 180 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: are we? And as you know, the numbers are increasing. 181 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: So I just found this study to be really interesting 182 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: as it went against what I was thinking. When is 183 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: this the truth? I mean they're saying The Moderating the 184 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Future Survey is an annual check in with the eighth, tenth, 185 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: and twelfth graders around the US that ask students to 186 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: self report their substance use behaviors and similar information including 187 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: their perspective of drug related harms, approval of disapproval of 188 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: their use, and perceived availability. The data from each survey 189 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: is released at the end of the year during which 190 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: it was all collected. It's funny. I remember doing a 191 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: few tests like this when I was younger. I don't 192 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: know if they ever did. Do you remember, have you 193 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: ever smoked? Have you ever tried this? Have you ever 194 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: done that? I remember, and I only think I only 195 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: did it. I think once in eighth grade junior high. 196 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: I think we might have had to do that in 197 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: junior high school somewhere, right, It's like I didn't do anything. 198 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: I was straight back then. I didn't do nothing. Really. Yeah, yeah, 199 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: that's so random because it was for me being the 200 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: baby of the family. Right. So I started literally smoking 201 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: with at six and smoking all the way through I mean, 202 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and think here, you're going 203 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: ready for this mark. So it was six. By third 204 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: grade two, I'm playing with the fifth graders in all sports. 205 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: Fifth grade, I'm excelling, playing against the teachers. I was 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: a big leader at the school. Sixth grade. I was 207 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: sixth grade president, seventh grade part of the A s B. 208 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: Eighth grade, I was a SP president in junior high 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: and captain of the football team, baseball all this stuff 210 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: freshman year, freshman class president, captain of the football team, 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: sophomore year. At this junior year, head of this, my 212 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: senior year, I'm a s B president, you know, the 213 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: school's president, not the class. And on top of that, 214 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: I was captain of the football team, baseball team, rugby team. 215 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: All this leadership went over something. And all that being said, 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: I was smoking cannabis periodically through that whole time. And 217 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: at that point to where an advisor pulled me in. 218 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you the story. 219 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: God rest his soul. And Mr Robert Monjees pulled me 220 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: in one day because I was the A s P 221 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: president and he was like, Joe, you're coming to school. 222 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: You smell like booze, you smell like weed, blah blah. 223 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you know who I am? Like you 224 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: know who my brothers are, right. My brother went to 225 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: prison for sailing dope early on, Like I was younger, 226 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: my ten year older brother, my two year older brother 227 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: was craziest ship too. So me being the baby, I'm like, 228 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm about, and look at and at 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: that time, like, do I got a two point our better? 230 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: I can still be on the s B and I 231 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: can still play sports. Leave me alone. I was far 232 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: from your three five and above g P A character. 233 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: I made sure to five to eight. I mean I passed. 234 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't mr what you had to do. I did 235 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: what I had to do something and beyond and beyond 236 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: a reactivity I can be on. So that means said, 237 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: as you didn't do it, I did it. And look 238 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: at all those accolades I had while doing that, you 239 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then to go to college 240 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: and get my degree and all this other in college, 241 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: same thing. Smoking on a daily basis in college, not 242 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: a week daily basis. Well, not during the football season. 243 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Let me clarify. During the football season, I did not 244 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: medica saily because at the time I didn't look at 245 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: it that way. You know, after games, after games, after 246 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: practice and heavily drinking of course talking there not even 247 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: have to practice though really after a game maybe on 248 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: the weekend, I'm sure we smoke lebront and doing from 249 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: and party down a little bit, but but not heavy. 250 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: That all being said, that's a new survey where we 251 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: come back. Mark Washerman from the populars that Law has 252 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: a great story for us. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. 253 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Will be right back after. 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So I 263 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: was going through all these win cannabis, those bad stories, 264 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: and I came across this one story that kind of 265 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: fits in the mold, but doesn't. I wanted to go 266 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: through this one particular story. Joe. I think you're gonna 267 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: find it amazing, and I think we're gonna have to 268 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: find these two guys and interview them. The headline reads 269 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: straight out of inwood legacy NYC pot dealers going legit quote, 270 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: we got that good work, the best of the best. 271 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: And here we have these two guys, two friends as 272 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: teenagers growing up in Upper Manhattan, with the rumble of 273 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: the elevated Number one train a constant backing track, Ernesto 274 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Castillo and Joel Telly Colado had a choice, the straight 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: and narrow or the shadows. I really like this this story. 276 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: It goes on to talk about the shadows and how 277 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: over the next nearly two decades, these two guys built 278 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: a black market cannabis delivery services that operated in all 279 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: five burroughs. Joe, you know about the five boroughs. I 280 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: mean to have a business that's in the black market 281 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: delivering to all five bureaus. I don't know that in 282 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: and of itself. To do that for two decades, what 283 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: do you think? Well, you have to be well connected, 284 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: because let's just face it, a lot of areas like 285 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: that are ran by the mob. New York Is still 286 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: has a heavy hand in certain areas. So I'm shocked 287 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: that these guys are are I don't know if we 288 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: were read it, but they gotta we're gonna get into 289 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna get we'll get into more of it. I 290 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to to give you that beginning because with 291 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: the state legalizing adult use cannabis, with the policy emphasis 292 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: on correcting the ills of the War on drugs, which 293 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: we know through our buddies at Happy Monkey and our 294 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: our guys out back East who were very, very integral 295 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: in making sure that didn't get overlooked. Castillo, who is 296 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: now thirty six and Colado, who is thirty seven, are 297 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: moving out of those shadows and preparing to totally go 298 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: legit and apply for a permit to run a legal dispensary. Now. 299 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Colado says, when you get locked up for the first time, 300 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: you copped to five years of probation, but it's five 301 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: years of them trying to put you back in jail, 302 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: to press and press and press and put you down. 303 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: What we're doing now is you knocked us down, but 304 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: now it's legal and we've got a chance to rectify 305 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: that wrong. So these guys are going full force. Their 306 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: company is called El pure l pure the Pure. The 307 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: name is derived from a legendary strain of cannabis known 308 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: as Purple Haze, which emerged in nineties in the Dickman 309 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: Street section of Inwood. So this is in Wood in 310 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: New York, a cauldron of Dominican street culture, graffiti, hip hop, 311 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: and basketball. The neighborhood's signature event is the Dickman Summer League, where, 312 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: on warm nights at the Monsenior Key Playground under the 313 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: elevated train, the dunks and three pointers fly and the 314 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: cannabis smoke over the pack. Crowd seems so thick you 315 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: might be able to walk across it. I'm loving I'm 316 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: loving this, you know. And the fact that we've never 317 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: heard of these guys, I haven't, you know. And the 318 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: way they're making these moves. As Castillo says, on the block, 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: we used to say, I'm probably saying this wrong, Joe. 320 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: But Tenemo Pure meaning we got the fire is a 321 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: close close enough you know your Mexican because you're close 322 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: to us. So that's all that matters. The Mexican now 323 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: l Pure is known as a legacy brand, which in 324 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: the city's cannabis culture refers to a venture that was 325 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: previously illegal. And we sure know a lot of folks 326 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: who are coming from that quote unquote legacy market and 327 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: trying to make their way into the legal license market 328 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: not so easy. Colado and Castile's partnership is among many 329 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: startups that will compete for dispensary licenses once the state 330 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: regulations for cannabis sales are set, and it's supposed to 331 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: happen sometime in the next year, which right now, everybody's 332 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: operating and they're calling it a gray area, but it's not. 333 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: It's just illegal. And the city remains in that area 334 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: where possession and use are legal, but there's no regulatory 335 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: framework framework. So a range of entrepreneurs have jumped into 336 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: the gap and they are selling openly throughout the five boroughs. 337 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Police are not getting in their way right now. I 338 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: just did, uh what the show a couple of days ago. 339 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: Uncle Bud's trucks that are out there operating in this 340 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: they call it gray area. But I'm just waiting for 341 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: the other ball to drop. Hopefully it won't anytime soon, 342 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: because today four hundred and eighty and this is where 343 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: it gets shitty, just like it is in California. Four 344 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty of the New York States one thousand, 345 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty eight villages, towns, and cities have 346 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: opted out of locating cannabis dispensaries, and so they don't 347 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: want them in their cities, four hundred and eighty of 348 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: them in these villages, towns, and cities, and then you 349 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: have four hundred and eighty five municipalities that have opted 350 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: out of having sites where consumption is allowed. So it's 351 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: not like everybody throughout New York is on board and 352 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: New York and New York is as an example to 353 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: the mark of everywhere else in the country. I mean, 354 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: look at California, where everyone thinks it's fully legal here, 355 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: and there's so many cities just like you're mentioning that 356 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: don't want to allow cannabis in that city, whether it 357 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: be a dispensary or delivery in this and that, where 358 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: in my opinion, what are you thinking the propaganda of 359 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: that because you think it's gonna bring crime, bad people, prostitution. 360 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: What are you thinking that's gonna do? Could that happen? 361 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: It more happens in the black markets. In that legacy 362 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: market when they're doing that is where that happens. You 363 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: have a legal dispensary there with an armed security guard 364 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: up front. Nothing's gonna happen there. Could they be a 365 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: break in, Yeah, there could be a break in at 366 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: the subway as well. That's a sandwich shop, for God's sakes. Well. 367 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: And crime is going down. It's being documented in places 368 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: where they're putting up facilities with all the heavy UH security, 369 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: surveillance and everything. Crime, crime is going down. But they 370 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: made the same mistake the California did in allowing these 371 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: cities and towns to to decide for themselves rather than 372 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: the state just saying this is the way it is. 373 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: You cities and townties shouldn't have your own say. And 374 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: that's what's happened there, That's what happened here. And the 375 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: partners behind Elpia, these two guys, they're hoping to take 376 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: advantage of the state's legalization law that says fifty of 377 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: the licenses should be granted in areas disproportionately hit by 378 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: the War on drugs and to minority own businesses and 379 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: other underrepresented groups. So Castillo and Colado would seem good 380 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: candidates for consideration, as they and their neighborhood can easily 381 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: argue that they suffered disproportionately. They've both been incarcerated for 382 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: cannabis offenses, but are we going to see what happened 383 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: there that happened here with the social equity rollout and 384 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: the predators. These the big companies and corporations, millionaires, billionaires 385 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: trying to do backdoor deals and taking advantage of the situation. 386 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: So hopefully there's more oversight when that comes into New York. 387 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: And as Castillo said, they have had a rough time. 388 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: What we've been through years that a lot of people 389 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: haven't been through in their whole lifetime. And you can 390 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: probably attest to that. We were talking about a minute 391 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: ago your brother being in jail, and you know, these 392 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: guys were in jail, and you know, that's something that 393 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I've never experienced. I've heard it, I've heard it. And 394 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: we have so many people in the Cannada this industry 395 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: that never experienced it that are profiting now, people that, 396 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, maybe even shouldn't be there for one 397 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: reason or another. While guys like this you broke there, 398 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: took the risk. They took the risk all over just cannabis. 399 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing in here about any hardcore dreams. 400 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: These guys were selling cannabis to the five bureaus and 401 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: summer haow somehow they did it for two decades, and 402 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: these two men little kg about the details of their business. 403 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: They ran outside the law, but they got their start 404 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: as young teens, following in the footsteps of older pot dealers. 405 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: So you know that it's very interesting when you look 406 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: at entrepreneurs who started out on the street and the 407 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial nature, the way they did things and broke things 408 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: up and sold let's do this, we'll say five bag 409 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and keeping all that together and all 410 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: those numbers, I mean, you know, that's that's going to 411 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: school in some in some respect, and a lot of 412 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: these guys from the legacy market probably would have aced 413 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: math exams and all of the statistics and things like that, 414 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: because that's what you need to understand to get through 415 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: this stuff. Now, these guys have been friends since their kids, 416 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: and they played on opposing youth baseball teams in the neighborhood. 417 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: They swept us for the trophy, and I was mad 418 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: at them when we had hard So that's how these 419 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: two guys got together as kids. One team beat the other, 420 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: got the trophy you away from him, and that's how 421 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: they started noticing together what the neighborhood pot dealers would 422 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: do and how they were doing it, and as he 423 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: says to us, our parents are telling us it's wrong. 424 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: But the guys that I'm looking up to are all 425 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: out here with money and look and yet I'm here 426 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: splitting a sandwich with my sister. So so they see 427 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: the glitz and the glamour. And you come from a 428 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: low income community, so you look for opportunity. As it 429 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: was either wrapped, shoot a ball, or do that, and 430 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: we chose that, is what he said. So they began 431 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: building their old own brand using word of mouth, and 432 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: their packaging started in Manhattan, but it carried across the city, 433 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: people saying, you know, these are the guys, and you 434 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: got to be consistent, and they were consistent with how 435 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: they spread everything out. Sounds like they were very calculated. 436 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: Although they were young, they were making the moves that 437 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: they saw were working for the other guys. And Castillo 438 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: served two stints in state prison on cannabis convictions. Convictions, 439 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: the first one in two thousand and three, when at 440 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: age thirteen, he got sentenced to three years to life. 441 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: The sentence was three years to life under the old 442 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: Rockefeller drug laws cannabis. He was put in the state's 443 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: shock and that's s h o c K boot camp 444 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: program for youth offenders and released on lifetime parole, which 445 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: was just a lifetime parole, lifetime parole which was discontinued 446 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand four after the drug laws were amended. 447 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: So that was in two thousand three. First goes in 448 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: then two thousand thirteen convicted of cannabis possession and served 449 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: just under four years. He was paroled on two thousand 450 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: seventeen and he remains on parole until March. Ah. It's 451 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: just it really gets to me when having been a 452 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney now for twenty six years and knowing 453 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: guys who have gotten three years, five years, two years 454 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: for domestic violence or other crimes that are just way 455 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: out of the league of just this cannabis ship and 456 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: this guy going through that. His partner, Golato, was also 457 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: sent up state in two thousand three as a youthful 458 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: offender for cannabis. How many youthful offenders lives have been 459 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: ruined because all they did was use fucking cannabis. And 460 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: there he says, guards wants beat him for not walking 461 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: fast enough. He said he's done seven stints in rikers 462 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: for varying lengths with the most recent a decade ago, 463 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: all for cannabis. It's just sad when you say that, 464 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and I think about how many lives have been affected 465 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: that way and just ruined for just over this plant 466 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: and just some bullshit no automatic quip like you know, 467 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: and I'm four. Don't get me wrong. You have the guns, 468 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: you have some coke on you, you have other things. 469 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not gonna sit there and be like, oh, 470 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have had a gun. No, you have a gun, 471 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: you have fucking coke, some pill whatever, but just cannabis alone. 472 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: Come on. Well, and these guys they're not They are 473 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: not gang affiliated. And he said, if you're like me 474 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: and not getting affiliated, Colado says, it's tough on you 475 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: when you get inside. Yeah, he's been whipped, smacked, beat 476 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: by other inmates, by correction officers. He's seen a lot, 477 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: from slashings to miss conduct. He says, there were a 478 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: lot of people unjustly locked up for things that I 479 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: feel they could have gotten treatment, for real treatment. And 480 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: you know that that's not just to say for cannabis, 481 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: but other drug offenders, non violent drug offenders who are 482 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: addicted to all sorts of different things, and a lot 483 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: of them, because it all starts with car accident and 484 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: pills and then the doctors cut him off, and so 485 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: many stories like that, and these guys coming off all 486 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: of that, being in and out of prison while the 487 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: landscape around them was changing and everything was changing. As 488 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: recently as two thousand eleven, the NYPD arrest we know 489 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: some of these numbers already. Fifty thousand, six four mostly 490 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: black and Hispanic people on cannabis charges since two thousand eleven, 491 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: by far the largest category that we've talked about that 492 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: would fill Yankee Stadium. They stay here enough to fill 493 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. Joe, what do you think about that? I mean, 494 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: it's it's just crazy to think it's you know, it 495 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: makes me think of a side note that I've been 496 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: watching this and I don't know if you've got a 497 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: chance to watch the Colin Kaepernick story not yet, So 498 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: I've been watching. I've watched it already. Now I'm watching 499 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: it a second time, ironically because my son wants to 500 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: watch it. And as I watched it even the second time, 501 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: more so, it just makes me see and it's his story, 502 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: his perspective on how things were and are, even as 503 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: an athlete, and how just athletes, young high school athletes 504 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: have been treated, meaning African American minority athletes when they 505 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: go places. You see the white kids horsing around, you 506 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: see the minorities horsing around. They go up to hey, boys, 507 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: stop it. And it's like, oh, because the white kids 508 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: are horsing around, you're going to the black kids and 509 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: tell them to all stop it. This ship doesn't stop. 510 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: And they should talk about the studies of like as 511 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: a long time ago, there were studies on look at 512 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: this baby, which one's bad, which one is good? And 513 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: they have like, you know, different complexions, and they always 514 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: point to the back to the darker ones as the 515 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: bad ones. Has been a societal fucking thing you for ever. Unfortunately, 516 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: well here's here's a good news, right with So two 517 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: thousand eleven to you know, two thousand, nineteen fifty thousand 518 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: now in NYPD made eight hundred and one cannabis arrests. Now, 519 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't say here, but I wonder what those figures 520 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: are who was arrested? Now through all of this, though, 521 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: these two guys, you know, we're going back to two 522 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: thousand five, two thousand six, they their business continued. You 523 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: know through everything that they went through. Their business continued 524 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: and after medical and then adult use became legal two 525 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, two thousand and sixteen in California. As they 526 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: were watching what was happening, they started planning. So to 527 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: three years ago, these two guys started planning for what 528 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: was to come in New York. They sell edibles and 529 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: cannabis in shiny, brightly colored packaging and have a line 530 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: of T shirts and ball caps emblows into with their 531 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: slick logo which references Dickmon Street and Yankee pin stripes. 532 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: They looked at each other and said, this is what 533 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: we gotta do. This is going to change our lives. 534 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: This is going to change the community's life. Colado said, 535 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: and I quote, this is about people with the balls 536 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: to live the way they want and not giving a 537 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: fuck end quote. I love that guy. We we we 538 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: gotta get these two guys. I'm gonna reach out to 539 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: them and see where they end up. Because these guys 540 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: are I believe they're gonna be huge. And here this 541 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: is the last quote I'll leave it with. We were 542 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: cornered kids that were written off. Now we are Harvard 543 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: kids without a Harvard degree for real, and what's their 544 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: what's their brand name? Again? Help here, Help here. Two 545 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: guys in New York are selling cannabis and five bureaus yep, yep, 546 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: and they're and they're and that was in the legacy 547 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: market and now they're fixing to be illegal. And you know, 548 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to uh to see where they send 549 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: them an email and um, you know, let's see. We're 550 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna follow up on that, you know. And as I said, 551 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: this was in my when cannabis goes bad pile. It 552 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: went bad through these guys for decades and it's turning around. 553 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: So I might have to do when cannabis goes good. 554 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: When these guys get well, it's cannabis Talk one on one. 555 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: When we run back after then it's cannabis Talk one 556 00:31:50,520 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: o one. It's cannabis talk. 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The one thousand milligram cartridges are amazing. 565 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: Check out the website Dime industries dot com or on 566 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: Instagram Dime dot industry. You know, they had a great 567 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Christmas party that both of us weren't able to attend. 568 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: I heard yes said that I mean and when I 569 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: say sad, it's work. Two guys that like to show 570 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: up and gay and shake hands and kid babies, And 571 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: you know I mean funny because always tell people who 572 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: are like, oh, I haven't heard Mark on ball Ill 573 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: go do? Mark always wants to be on don't get 574 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: it twisted, Market, always wants to be other show. He's 575 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: just working if he's not on the show. Craig, on 576 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: the other hand, he'll he'll miss the show because it's 577 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: puppy is licking the floor. He has to stop him. 578 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: He'll do what the contract says. No, he doesn't even 579 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: do that. He doesn't. He's beyond doing what the contract says. 580 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: That's been breached a long time ago. That being said, 581 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 1: even your breach is still missed. Though My point as 582 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: you miss it, we miss it. And there's just been 583 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: so many Christmas parties and with the COVID ramping up, 584 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: it's like get it in when you can. Because are 585 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: you doing anything special for the holiday? For Christmas or 586 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: New Year's? No, we're just we're not traveling anywhere a 587 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: lot of times we'll go stay somewhere, but we're not 588 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: doing that where we were spending Christmas at my sister 589 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: or my my sister in law's house. Probably the same 590 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: thing for New Year's. Will probably go there for a 591 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: few hour, probably be home before New Year's. I I 592 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: don't have any big plans. What about you? Um Christmas, 593 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: we're actually going to the songs you know Dr Kyle's 594 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: song an attorney Kevin Sard who you who you do 595 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: work with as well. And it's just funny that we're 596 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: so tight with them because I literally spent Thanksgiving with them, 597 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: and not only that, it's been like the last I 598 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: don't know seven eight years of a Thanksgiving our Christmas 599 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: that I've spent there with them and doing the White 600 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: Elephant and first taking cannabis products over there as the 601 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: White Elephant gift goes with them, and so we're doing that. 602 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: That being said, though, it has been requested that everyone 603 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: go to CBS and do a COVID tests before you go, 604 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: which I find to be great. So we're doing. We 605 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: did that, um for Christmas, then UM New Year's. We 606 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: just got invited to go to Big Bear with two 607 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: the couples and their kids. All of our kids around 608 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: the same age, so the one family has a big 609 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 1: cabin and Big Bear, which when my wife just told 610 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: me that, when I was like, that sounds like a 611 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: good one, A good intimate crowd that we've known for years, 612 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: all before kids. My actually, my wife went to physical 613 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: therapy school at USC with these ladies and I know 614 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: them very well through that, and we've been you know, 615 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: hanging out for years. So I believe we're gonna go there, 616 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: which is gonna be nice. And the cool part about 617 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: one of the ladies husband's he's a big wig at HBO, 618 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: so I always love hearing his stories. He always like 619 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: you and he's look one of these guys that I'm 620 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: the finance guys for it, right, So he lays out 621 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: all the money for this and that, and but he 622 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: deals with like the huge big movies, so he knows 623 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: that he's always on location, always abroad in the different countries. 624 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: Since COVID hit, he hasn't been so much. But he's 625 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: just a major big wig and he made his way up. 626 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: Believe he started at Sony and now and now he 627 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: went to the show when I first met him and 628 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: after he was at Sony. But hearing his stories at 629 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: my point of just hanging out with guys like that, 630 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: you know that when you hang out with guys really 631 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: cool jobs rather than just us being the guy talk 632 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: to like I love talking to him, like, dude, what 633 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: movies you're working on? What stories? And this after this 634 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: and that after that and this writer and they had 635 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: to do this and that's just fun. So that's gonna 636 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: be my New Year's I believe in big there WI 637 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: should be a good time in the snow with family 638 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: and friends having a good time. And that's what it's about, folks. 639 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: So that being said, we hope you guys have a 640 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: great holiday. You're doing well. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. 641 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 1: If nobody else loves you, Mark, we do, BAM. Thank 642 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one on 643 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you 644 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: get your podcasts,