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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ravens Press Pass Podcast is Thursday, October fifth,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens preparing for this week's matchup against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: And today we had a chance to hear from offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Todd Munkett.

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Speaker 2: In last week, you know, halfway through last week, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you know where the chunk plays are? Where are they?

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Speaker 2: And I assume they said Andrews breaks thirty five yard

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Speaker 2: then there were a few more throughout it. But does

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Speaker 2: it feel like I mean, obviously want chunk plays to

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Speaker 2: be Everyone wants a chunk plays to be a part

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Speaker 2: of your offense, but it's designed a bit more. Weren't

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Speaker 2: your contented? Just like we're gonna take exactly what they

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Speaker 2: give us a march down the field. We feel the

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Speaker 2: execution wise, that'll that'll be successful for us.

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Speaker 3: Not really, I mean, I don't think that's sustainable.

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Speaker 4: I mean the number in order turnovers, explosive plays, touchdowns

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Speaker 4: on the red zone, lost charge plays, third down conversions.

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Speaker 4: That's how you win both sides of the ball. So

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Speaker 4: don't turn it over. Be explosive. If you're not explosive,

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Speaker 4: you better be damn good on third downs. You got

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Speaker 4: to keep drives or fourth downs, conversion downs, and we've

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Speaker 4: been explosive in the run game, where we've got to

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Speaker 4: get more explosives in the past game, we've got to

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Speaker 4: find ways to create. Some of that's been a by

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Speaker 4: product of the defense, some of it's been a byproduct

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Speaker 4: of play calling. Some of it's been a byproduct that

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Speaker 4: we've been ahead in the fourth quarter. We really haven't.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've tried to take it a little bit,

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Speaker 4: you know, take the air out of the game, sometimes successfully,

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Speaker 4: sometimes not.

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Speaker 3: But we know.

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Speaker 4: You get thirty two teams across the league, everyone's going

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Speaker 4: to say, we got to find a way to be

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Speaker 4: more explosive.

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Speaker 5: I think the air yards per attempt they're down.

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Speaker 6: Knowing why, it's just teams that are having trouble throwing

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Speaker 6: the ball deep.

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Speaker 7: On defensive, have you seen defenses kind of evolve to

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Speaker 7: take away the big play more or why do you think.

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Speaker 4: That might be?

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Speaker 3: I think there's more of that.

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Speaker 4: I think schematically you're seeing more and more teams play

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Speaker 4: in a certain style than there was a few years ago. Probably,

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's still within

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Speaker 4: a given game, maybe not statistically over a year, but

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Speaker 4: within a given game against the opponent you're playing.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: So, whether your goal is to get x amount of

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Speaker 4: explosives within that given game, you're trying to not turn

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Speaker 4: over and be more explosive than your opponent.

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Speaker 5: I think in years past, you know, the offense would

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Speaker 5: talk about how sometimes defensive coordinators with throw the game

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Speaker 5: clients that they sprightly didn't expect based on Tennessee and stuff.

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Speaker 5: Have you seen any of that this year? And I

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Speaker 5: guess what do you think the kind of long term

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Speaker 5: managers that are basic events where maybe they do things.

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Speaker 4: With their crew both at this event, you know, some

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Speaker 4: of that might be true, but not really yet.

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Speaker 3: Have not seen that.

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Speaker 4: Some of the teams that we've played, I mean we've

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Speaker 4: played three of the four teams have been structured similarly

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Speaker 4: and they're married to really what they do. Some other

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Speaker 4: teams are a little bit different in terms of how

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Speaker 4: they schematically go up against Lamar And some of that

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Speaker 4: has to do with formationalin who's on the field that

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Speaker 4: does have something structurally, I think a lot of that

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Speaker 4: comes from not covered structure. But how big do you

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Speaker 4: get in terms of your personnel, like how many tight ends,

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Speaker 4: how many big people that's where a team has to

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Speaker 4: get a little bit creative in terms of fitting gaps, Tod.

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Speaker 5: We ask players this all the time, but is there

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Speaker 5: some extra excitement being involved in a Ravens Steelers game

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Speaker 5: knowing for sure this rival country?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think a divisional game.

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Speaker 4: I mean it felt like that the week before, you know,

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Speaker 4: it felt like that going to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: I would think any anyone. I won't to speak for coach.

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Speaker 4: But I mean when your number one goes to win

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Speaker 4: your division, I mean that's what you set out to do,

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Speaker 4: is win your division, then obviously it's huge. It's an

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Speaker 4: AFC game, it's a divisional game, it's a rivalry game. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: the two head coaches have been in place for you know,

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Speaker 4: a long long time in terms of number of games.

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Speaker 4: So we're excited. We're excited to continue to grow as

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Speaker 4: an offense, continue to execute each week at a higher level.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's our goal.

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Speaker 8: Coach.

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Speaker 1: I want to spend specifically working for you guys in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. We've seen you go way more to

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson there.

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Speaker 3: Than to rely on Justin Tuber like we've seen in

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Speaker 3: past years.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's players, I mean, it's I shouldn't say. I mean,

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Speaker 4: obviously it's it's all collectively. It's I think we've done

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Speaker 4: a good job as a staff scheming it. We've had

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Speaker 4: players make plays, you know, you think of all the

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Speaker 4: different you know, we had a couple of third down

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Speaker 4: conversion touchdowns against Cincinnati that were huge in terms of

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Speaker 4: a three point win. You know, obviously Lamar adds a

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Speaker 4: different element. Other teams at times down there, to give

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Speaker 4: themselves a chance to run the ball will go wildcat.

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Speaker 4: Well we don't have to go wildcat. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: we want to do that all the time. But he

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Speaker 4: adds a different element that allows for a defense to

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Speaker 4: have to play for and you're seeing that in terms

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Speaker 4: of coverage structure.

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Speaker 3: But coaches have done a good job.

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Speaker 4: Scheming it, the staff has, the players have done a

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Speaker 4: great job executing it.

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Speaker 2: And can always assume both teams getting up for this game.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that the last six times the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have been blown out, they've come back and one the

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Speaker 2: next week you've got it again with Mike tom on

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Speaker 2: one of his skillsho's having his team ready and not

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Speaker 2: you know, going through his long term droughts. So I

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Speaker 2: just kind of like, crap, did that really happen last

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Speaker 2: week against Houston for them? And now we got to

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Speaker 2: deal with a little extra from them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's a credit to them, but

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Speaker 4: I mean that's gotten nothing to do with this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll see, we'll be ready to go, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 5: About four weeks, do feel like you start to have

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Speaker 5: enough information on your opponents, just their tendencies and stuff.

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Speaker 7: And with that, the do you feel that they.

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Speaker 5: Have a nine next mission you to start to scout

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Speaker 5: to deal with and how do you incorporate like tendency

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a good balance. I think every team has tendencies.

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Speaker 4: I think it's knowing what those tendencies are. How do

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Speaker 4: you play off that because you're gonna have strengths and

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Speaker 4: you've got to play to those strengths, be it personnel

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Speaker 4: wise or schematically, because you can't be recreating the wheel

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Speaker 4: each week. The key is is what do we do well?

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Speaker 4: What do they do well? How can we attack them?

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Speaker 4: And they're thinking the same things and we've got to

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Speaker 4: do a good job of masking that but still staying

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Speaker 4: within the confines of what we want to be and

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Speaker 4: we will want to continue to be moving forward.

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Speaker 7: I'm having this week. Does it help that you had

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Speaker 7: two really good pass rushers last week?

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Speaker 6: Are they structured similarly and you feel like that helps

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Speaker 6: your offensive line this gear?

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Speaker 4: Well, first off, I'd prefer nobody has great pass rushers.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot more fun that way. When you talk

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Speaker 4: about scheming stuff up. That's that's a lot more fun

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Speaker 4: than when you're trying to figure out chip help and

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Speaker 4: you know those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Miles Garrett's a handful and the other

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Speaker 4: guys they've got and these guys are really good players.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so we'll ever work cut out for us.

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Speaker 4: We got to do a great job of staying ahut

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Speaker 4: in the chains and you know, getting the ball out.

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Speaker 5: Do you kind of have a game overall philosophy on

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Speaker 5: how this offense benefits or maybe in some ways doesn't

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Speaker 5: benefit from motion. I know you've you guys, you've done

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Speaker 5: a lot of different kinds of things, so it's not

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Speaker 5: just one particular brand of it. But I thinks, how

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Speaker 5: do you kind of fallow and when it helps and when.

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Speaker 3: It hurts change.

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Speaker 4: Some of it's kind of the price of doing business,

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Speaker 4: you know. I think when you face defenses too that

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Speaker 4: are like really get off the ball on a snap count,

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Speaker 4: they would say false starts or illegal procedures is kind

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Speaker 4: of the price of doing business. I think there's part

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Speaker 4: of that. When you motion and shift, there's always give

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Speaker 4: and take. The defense is moving run game protections where

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Speaker 4: your IDs are. So there's a cost benefit analysis right

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Speaker 4: in terms of getting them to move, rotate those kind

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Speaker 4: of things where it benefits you without too often times

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Speaker 4: and at times it has hurt us. You know, early

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Speaker 4: on in the first game that was we hadn't really

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Speaker 4: motions and sifts are different than when you're in practice

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Speaker 4: and what you see and when bullets are flying. And

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Speaker 4: so it's still a work in progress to eliminate, right

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Speaker 4: the drag at times in terms of IDs where they're at.

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Speaker 4: But it certainly is, you know, in terms of a benefit,

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Speaker 4: it can be, it can be.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say.

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Speaker 9: That you guys have had explosive plays runner. Can you

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Speaker 9: tell about you know, what you see that's working well

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Speaker 9: and how much do you think it's benefited that this

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Speaker 9: team is a team that is used to run a football.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, I still don't believe you

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Speaker 4: can control a game if you can't effectively run the football.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to control the game. I mean, it's it

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Speaker 4: is what it is. I mean, it's hard to stay

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Speaker 4: ahead of the chains. And we wanted to when we

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Speaker 4: came in trying to blend in terms of the physicality, Uh,

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Speaker 4: some assemblances of the same run game that you could

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Speaker 4: carry over and still be able to kind of do

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Speaker 4: some things schematically to help that. And I think our

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Speaker 4: staff has done a great job of that, and I

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Speaker 4: think there's a comfort level with the players in terms

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Speaker 4: of some of the things that we're doing.

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Speaker 1: That was Todd Munkin. We also talked with the defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Mike McDonald. His unit had a great performance last

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Speaker 1: week against the Cleveland Brown's really dominant game, and he

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Speaker 1: discussed building off of that game this week in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: Again, it seems like every week you're they're a quarterback

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Speaker 7: situation when the other team there, you know, someone's injured,

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Speaker 7: and how much does that affect the game plan when

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Speaker 7: there is some uncertainty.

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Speaker 9: At the quarterback ptation.

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Speaker 6: Uh, probably not as much as you'd expect. Uh, it's

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Speaker 6: hard with path dependence, you know, offensive systems probably taking

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Speaker 6: a you know, a ninety degree writer left turn. I'd

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Speaker 6: say the timing of how news comes out does affect

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Speaker 6: how you game planned. Like last week was a little

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Speaker 6: bit of a unique situation, this one's a little same,

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Speaker 6: you know, same idea kind of but a little bit different.

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Speaker 6: So we're definitely expecting Kenny, and you know, we'll be

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Speaker 6: ready for for for Mitchell if if he happens to

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Speaker 6: be out there as well.

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Speaker 3: So through the.

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Speaker 6: I'm r I'm really glad you asked that. I think

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Speaker 2: Throughout the off season. I imagine you spent a lot

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Speaker 6: It's didn't think if we were being to do this much. Honestly,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you might be able to say that. I don't

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Speaker 5: His rod quads proved his pass coverage.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's covering really well, as has that opened

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Speaker 5: What hoping to the kind of instance guys.

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Speaker 3: Like Tadevian and Pyle or when particularly.

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Speaker 5: When we lose, you know, without a couple of guys

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Speaker 6: Experience and so sort of well, obviously it's a big

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Speaker 6: you know, I just think it's a credit to UH

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's not easy to come in and and

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Speaker 6: Bines in twenty nineteen, and trust me, that was a

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Speaker 2: What most strikes you about this rivalry when you think

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Speaker 3: What do you think of? Man?

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Speaker 4: A lot of thoughts.

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Speaker 6: This this this organization, This game is defined by how

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Speaker 6: You know, leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: That was Mike McDonald. We also talked with special teams

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Speaker 10: It's Pittsburgh week and that's the thing we're trying to

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Speaker 10: just convey to our players, just like, hey man, this one,

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Speaker 10: we're working hard, getting ready to go. Really just try

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Speaker 10: to play again, try to play, put another sound game

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Speaker 10: together and try to play our best football up in Pittsburgh. Questions,

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Speaker 10: it looked like he can gimber at the point he

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Speaker 7: The ball might have been some room there. It was

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Speaker 6: Where.

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Speaker 10: You know there was a there was I know those

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Speaker 10: go back to the first one where that that ball

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Speaker 10: I think in his mind he was thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 10: second he saw the gunner, so he call he called

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Speaker 10: a fair catch. On the next one he got similar,

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Speaker 10: He got the similar ball and it happened right away.

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Speaker 10: So he he just assumed, Hey, that gunner's right there again,

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Speaker 10: I better fair catch this ball. So he's in that instance,

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Speaker 10: he's got to make the decision right cause we're not

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Speaker 10: that was my opportunity. I could have had that one,

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Speaker 10: then everything after that is a positive force.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that was Jordan's best game start to finish?

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Speaker 10: I thought that was Jordan's best game by far. Uh obviously, Uh, consistency, right,

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Speaker 10: Those first he had seven punts in the game. Those

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Speaker 3: But after that, those next five, I mean they were

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Speaker 10: And with Jordan, that's where we're trying to That's where

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Speaker 10: we're trying to get him to consistently, uh with with

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Speaker 10: let's just find that consistency uh in those punts and

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Speaker 8: We talked you loved a couple of weeks split some

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Speaker 8: of the challenge due during right now, was there too

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Speaker 5: Did you a couple of guys go down and not

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Speaker 3: Uh, Jeff not.

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Speaker 10: You know, not to make any excuses, man, because that's

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Speaker 10: our that's our job as uh as coaches. Right to

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Speaker 10: make sure we handle the substitutions. But that but that

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Speaker 10: was that was kind of part of part of it, right, Uh,

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Speaker 10: we thought we thought we made a sub with a guy,

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Speaker 10: one guy stayed on the field, and then we're trying

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Speaker 10: you know those are those are easy fixes if we

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Speaker 10: just communicate throughout the course of the game. So I

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