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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the second hour of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: en Buck Sexton Show, and we are joined by David Yates.

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Speaker 1: He's a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a former

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Speaker 1: White House National security official.

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Speaker 2: Our friend, mister Yates. Great to have you, sir. What's

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Speaker 2: going on, but.

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Speaker 3: It's great to join you, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: So we want to ask you about whether we're going

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Speaker 2: to war with Iran.

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Speaker 1: It's a big question, and the reason we're asking is because,

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Speaker 1: as we know there are, there's sort of a dual

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Speaker 1: track situation playing out. On the one hand, there's negotiations

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Speaker 1: I think in Geneva sounds right over Iran's nuclear program

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Speaker 1: that the administration is involved in. And then there's also

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Speaker 1: a build up, a substantial build up of military assets,

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Speaker 1: aerial assets, specifically F thirty five's, F twenty two's in

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Speaker 1: the mid East, prepared for what could be a sustained

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Speaker 1: aerial campaign against Iran. What do you see happening here?

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Speaker 1: How do you think this plays out?

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Speaker 4: Well? Buck?

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Speaker 3: I think that the President and his team are doing

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Speaker 3: far more than any of its predecessors to kind of

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Speaker 3: increase the chances of a negotiated settlement of sorts. It's very,

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Speaker 3: very difficult to see there being any security from the

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Speaker 3: nuclear program under the current regime. That's why the president

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Speaker 3: says that if the regime were to change, that might

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Speaker 3: be better. He's not saying he's going to do it.

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Speaker 3: But the armada that is there is doing two very

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Speaker 3: substantial things. It is stopping the illegal support for the

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Speaker 3: Iranian regime financially that has been a big vulnerability in

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Speaker 3: the past, and of course it has the ability to

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Speaker 3: strike hard, and the President has proven a willingness to

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Speaker 3: do that not very long ago. So this should increase

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Speaker 3: the chances of a negotiated settlement. But I had to say,

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Speaker 3: bottom line, I don't see this regime in Ron negotiating

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Speaker 3: a good faith and an appropriate amount of time. So

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Speaker 3: I think the odds of a strike that would be

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Speaker 3: high over the next two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what is the goal of the strikes? Thanks

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Speaker 2: for coming on, Steve. I mean, I think that is

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Speaker 2: directly attributed to trying to eliminate Iran's nuclear arsenal, right,

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Speaker 2: or their ability to develop a nuclear arsenal? Are we

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Speaker 2: trying to replace the ayah Toola with this strike? Are

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Speaker 2: we still going after nuclear weapons? I think this needs

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Speaker 2: to be a huge part of the discussion in general,

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Speaker 2: is what is the strategic goal here? Do you have

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Speaker 2: a sense for that, and how do you think the

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Speaker 3: Well, I completely agree that it's necessary that if we've

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Speaker 3: fought off the ghosts of Iraq in many, many different ways,

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Speaker 3: but that idea of making clear what the strategic objective

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Speaker 3: role very very clear. I think that the targets that

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Speaker 3: they would hit would look more military, so it would

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Speaker 3: there's nothing they can do about it, and knock them

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Speaker 3: think this added layer of statements that were made about

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Speaker 3: the atrocities that are committed by the regime, the human

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Speaker 3: rights violations, and I have deep sympathy for that, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think that is the proper use of the

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Speaker 3: be made much much more clear. The strike had to

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Speaker 3: be degrading the capabilities of the regime, while they have

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Speaker 3: maximum pressure to degrade the economic capabilities of the regime,

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Speaker 3: and the rest of the world is going to have

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Speaker 2: In my view, you know.

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Speaker 1: Steve Yes, the ghosts of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars

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Speaker 1: loom large and all these conversations, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: deeper and in a much at much greater risk to

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Speaker 1: So as part of that, one of the conversations that

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Speaker 1: your take on it. In Venezuela, okay, we took Maduro

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Speaker 1: but there was a clear pathway of other people. And

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Speaker 1: But the US clearly has a lot of leverage. What

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Speaker 1: real sense as to if the Mullas fall. If they fall,

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Speaker 3: About that is the most important issue that they have

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Speaker 3: the nature of the current regime and renegotiate sort of

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Speaker 3: buy more time for a longer term transition to whether

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Speaker 3: it's an opposition or a reformed country. But in Venezuela

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Speaker 3: the opposition is not yet in charge. It maybe in

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Speaker 3: the not too distant future if there's an election. The

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Speaker 3: same goes with Iran. I mean, the dedatification issue in

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Speaker 3: as a failure in the Iraq strategy. Keeping some of

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Speaker 3: have to have. So I think there could be a

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Speaker 3: I would love it if this regime went away, But

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Speaker 3: I personally just think that the US role is to strike

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Speaker 3: hard the way no one else can, to contain fallout

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Speaker 3: as best anyone can. But it's the Abraham Accords, countries

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Speaker 3: and others that really need to be managing more of

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Speaker 3: how do we have an economic and political relationship that's

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Speaker 3: different with Iran.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of Iranium listeners on this program.

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Speaker 2: A couple of months ago, we opened up a phone

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Speaker 2: for the royal family to be installed in some way

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Speaker 2: as a holder of power that is a transition to

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Speaker 2: potentially a new government. Do you like that idea, Steve,

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Speaker 2: is that a crazy idea in your mind? Again, building

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Speaker 2: is some form of nostalgic positive reflection on the royal family,

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Speaker 3: I agree, and that could be a viable alternative. But

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things we felt got stung

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Speaker 3: and investment and other security engagements that are necessary for

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Speaker 3: that transition. I think that might explain why we have

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Speaker 3: way they've gone at that that might be more what

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Speaker 3: they try with Iran. But I do think that looking

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Speaker 3: then I think there are also large parts of Persian

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Speaker 1: Steve, I'm in South Florida, and so I got to ask,

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Speaker 1: how shaky do you think the regime in Cuba is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's very shaky, and that's an area

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Speaker 3: where I think, oddly, while people wouldn't attach smart power

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Speaker 3: that we've used some very effective levers that are non military.

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Speaker 3: We've used our military to cut off the oil that

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Speaker 3: terms of political warfare, economic warfare, and economic security, we've

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Speaker 3: maybe give a different path forward. But what fascinates me

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Speaker 3: we're really seeing a very sophisticated approach to easing these

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Speaker 2: Buck asked a good question about Cuba, and I'm utterly

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Speaker 2: I think this is important. There's a big difference oftentimes

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Speaker 2: Or do they deep down like the fact that the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there is a pretty clear sense. And

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Speaker 3: you know, in our country, I don't think enough Americans

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Speaker 3: appreciate the fact that the Iranian regime has threatened to

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Speaker 3: this dispute. That's not kind of matters. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: they have suffered under assassination attempts and other kinds of

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Speaker 3: very very clear to them that they would much prefer

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Speaker 3: invest heavily, and there is a path to peace and

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Speaker 3: Abraham Accords, and under the theocratic regime in Iran, that's

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Speaker 3: not an option. They support the radical terrorists that attacked

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Speaker 3: that is not compatible with our allies in the Gulf.

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Speaker 1: Stephen, before we let you go, I'm sure you saw

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Speaker 2: Most of my review so far that is from me

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Speaker 2: Just so you know I don't. I'm actually nervous now

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Speaker 2: that I've said that. I'm like, have I reviewed anything else? No?

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Speaker 2: Only a couple of things. So I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: Like what if I else? Have I reviewed on Amazon?

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Speaker 2: Only a couple of books? Another one was like fifteen

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Speaker 2: of the book. And oh yeah, Ali's saying they used

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Speaker 2: to turn Russia's book over upside down. Look, what I

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Speaker 2: would say is in the marketplace of ideas. I think

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Speaker 2: about this all the time. How do you reach people

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Speaker 2: that otherwise might not be aware of your arguments. We're

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Speaker 2: incredibly thankful for all of you out there that are

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Speaker 2: listening to us every day, and every day there's a

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Speaker 2: and that's been the case for each of the last

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Speaker 2: people that would like our arguments and do not get

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Speaker 5: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 2: Join Clay and Buck as they.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck our friend Carol

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Speaker 1: Markowitz of The Carol Markowitz Show and the Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck podcast Network and Normally what she does with Mary

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Speaker 1: Catherine Han Clay. Have you been on the Normally Show yet?

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Speaker 1: I haven't been on the Normally Show yet, Carol. How

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Speaker 1: do we get on the Normally show? You have guests

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Speaker 1: with the duo show or not? I've been on with Carol,

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Speaker 9: No we haven't. We haven't done guests yet, but if

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Speaker 9: we were going to do guests, you two would be

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Speaker 9: like in the top ten easily.

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Speaker 1: To you on That's how I got married.

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Speaker 2: That's how I got married, Carol. I made the top ten,

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Speaker 2: So that makes sense, Carol, Carol.

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Speaker 1: We congratulations on all the success of the podcast and

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Speaker 1: people should go check out the Kerl Marcowitch Show. Now

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Speaker 1: hard turn here because we're abad to get into something

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Speaker 1: pretty intense, but it's important. We had the second in

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Speaker 1: less than two weeks and maybe ten days apart or

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Speaker 1: in Canada, and now there's one that just happened in

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Speaker 1: Rhode Island. This guy in Rhode Island was clearly the

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Speaker 1: most if you were drawing a picture, or if you

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Speaker 1: were trying to create an a laboratory somebody who was

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Speaker 1: manifestly insane, it would be this guy. And the fact

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Speaker 1: mental health case that needed immediate attention long before this

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Speaker 1: goes too there's just a complete unwillingness to see reality

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Speaker 1: when it comes to this transgender stuff.

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Speaker 9: Now, yeah, you're absolutely right. And look, you know, I'm

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Speaker 9: reading this great book Manufacturing Delusion. You may have heard of.

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Speaker 10: But the whole thing is, I mean, it really is.

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Speaker 9: So good and it's so right for this moment because

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Speaker 9: it's the same question going on with the transgender debate.

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Speaker 9: It's like, are you going to tell the truth or

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Speaker 9: are you going to have to parrot the line that

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Speaker 9: we were told to parrot, which is that there's nothing

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Speaker 9: that there is no mental health component. I think that's

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Speaker 9: absolutely ridiculous, especially when we're talking about young.

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Speaker 10: People, because we've seen the fact that it's such a

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Speaker 10: social contagion.

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Speaker 9: Number of gay people have not gone up basically in

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Speaker 4: So it is this.

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Speaker 9: Brainwashing thing that is happening across our culture, and it

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Speaker 9: seems like people are waking up to it. But right

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Speaker 9: violent incidents involving the transgender community have really spiked, and

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Speaker 9: I think it is because they're constantly being told that

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Speaker 4: This shooter in Rhode Island.

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Speaker 9: He was on Twitter and he said that stop bashing

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Speaker 9: us or this is why we go brazerk, But no

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Speaker 9: one was bashing him. It was Kevin Sorbol, the actor

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Speaker 9: was basically saying that if you're born a boy, you

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Speaker 9: stay a boy, and.

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Speaker 4: That's a fact.

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Speaker 9: So the fact that something like that can be seen

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Speaker 9: as bashing is the crux of the problem to me.

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Speaker 9: Here they're put on the defense by the left, They're

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Speaker 9: told they're under attack, and they're acting out in a

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Speaker 9: violent fashion because of that, I think.

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Speaker 2: So I'm so fascinated by this. You've got three kids.

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Speaker 2: I've got three kids. I don't know how much attention

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Speaker 2: you pay to their social media feeds, meaning what they

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Speaker 2: watch online, because that's where they spend all their time,

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Speaker 2: YouTube everything else, it seems to me. And again, I've

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Speaker 2: got three boys, so it might be a bit different

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Speaker 2: because I know you've got I think a daughter and

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Speaker 2: two boys. That there is online a unregulated attack on

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Speaker 2: the woke world that is way more venomous than I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people recognize. And I've kind of

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Speaker 2: talked with Buck about this, but you know, this anti

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Speaker 2: year olds, particularly boys, are just over the bs on

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Speaker 2: a level that I don't think society has really recognized yet, Carol,

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Speaker 2: because they're saying, oh, you know, it's people over the

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Speaker 2: and they're the ones that are bigots and transphobes and

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Speaker 2: everything else. I actually think the younger kids see it

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Speaker 2: for the absurdity that it is on a level that's

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Speaker 2: not being talked about yet.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, it's that younger generation

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Speaker 9: if Jen Alpha or whatever.

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Speaker 10: But I think they realize the absurdity of what has

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Speaker 10: the ones that were so susceptible.

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Speaker 4: To this mass illusion.

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Speaker 9: And you know, when we moved to Florida in the

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Speaker 9: middle of my daughter was in the middle of sixth grade,

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Speaker 9: she had i would say, over ten friends in New

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Speaker 9: and there is zero, she has zero, and that's a

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Speaker 9: real you know, how does that happen? How did that happen,

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Speaker 9: if this is not a social contagion, if it's occurring

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Speaker 9: naturally in nature the way that they say, she still

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Speaker 9: knows the same number of gay people if that didn't change.

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Speaker 9: So I think that the younger generation has realized that

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Speaker 9: around them, and that they don't want any part of that.

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Speaker 9: They've been it's considered.

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Speaker 10: Something mock worthy now, like oh, you don't know what

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Speaker 1: You know, there's been some major news on this. We're

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Speaker 1: speaking to Karl Markwitz. The Carol Markwoz Show is on

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Speaker 1: the Clay Book podcast network. Go listen. She does a

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Speaker 1: fantastic job. There's the news that has been breaking about

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Speaker 1: the medical field now having to take notice of these lawsuits.

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Speaker 1: And just yesterday, I think it was NYU langone major

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Speaker 1: hospital in New York based out of New York City.

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Speaker 1: They have said, look, because of the regulatory environment. I

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Speaker 1: think what they mean by that is we don't want

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Speaker 1: to get sued. They're stopping transition care for minors and

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Speaker 1: you know this, so this is actually happening, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's important for people to realize that you can

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Speaker 1: win this battle. You can stop them from giving fourteen

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Speaker 1: year olds hormones that are going to have terrible effects

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Speaker 1: on their growth and development, stop them from having breast

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Speaker 1: removal surgery top surgery as they call it, because they

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Speaker 1: think they're a boy. I mean, it's crazy stuff. This

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Speaker 1: is actually they're taking real effect now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And you know, I I think that when that

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Speaker 9: New York jury awarded the de transitioner the two million

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Speaker 9: dollars award, it was the first of its kind. It

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Speaker 9: go to trial, and I think that really sent shockwaves

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Speaker 9: through the entire industry. The doctors who had not been

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Speaker 9: held accountable suddenly were going to be held accountable. In fact,

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Speaker 9: the girl in that case, she argued that her psychologist,

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Speaker 9: you know, pushed the idea on her.

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Speaker 10: And that she was impressionable and her mom was afraid, and.

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Speaker 9: They just went along with it because they were guilt.

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Speaker 4: Tripped into it. And you know, the numbers are.

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Speaker 9: Like, I think it was around close to four thousand

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Speaker 9: adolescents twelve to eighteen transitioned and that's just in like

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Speaker 9: four years, from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty according.

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Speaker 10: To the Department of Health and Human Services, that is

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Speaker 10: an insane number.

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Speaker 9: Of people who can look back at and say, wait,

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Speaker 9: what did I do? Why did I destroy my body?

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Speaker 9: Why did I ruin my ability to have children? But

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Speaker 9: you know what the real thing is to me, Guys,

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Speaker 9: we were told this wasn't happening. Could maybe stopping procedures

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Speaker 9: that we were told were not happening. It was always like, oh,

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Speaker 9: it's ridiculous, and young people are not having these procedures.

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Speaker 9: You have to be eighteen. And here they are admitting

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Speaker 9: that they were.

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Speaker 10: Doing procedures like this, and now that they're going to stop.

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Speaker 2: Since we've already been talking about the most difficult topic

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Speaker 2: on the planet, which is transrelated surgeries, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: throw you another tough universe to step into. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if we've asked you this yet, Carol. I

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Speaker 2: believe that it would be fair to call you a Swiftie,

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Speaker 2: and that you and your daughter have been too many

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift concerts, and yeah, among the greatest of all

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Speaker 2: my predictions is that Taylor Swift is the modern day Beatles.

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Speaker 2: But Sexton is outraged by my comparison of the two

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Speaker 2: Is that a crazy opinion in your mind? And how

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Speaker 2: would you assess it through not only the prism of

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Speaker 2: your own life, but also through your daughters and presumably

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Speaker 2: many of her friends that have a strong affinity for

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 9: I really like Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I get to be called a swifteek.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't name all.

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Speaker 10: Of her music, but I have been to the show.

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Speaker 9: My daughter and I went to Liverpool like two years ago.

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Speaker 9: It was so much fun. She's a fantastic singer songwriter.

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Speaker 10: I think that her as a lyricist, she's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Beatles I don't know, but yeah, she's.

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Speaker 9: Of course, she's a cultural cultural force. I actually thought

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Speaker 9: you were.

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Speaker 4: Going to ask if she goes.

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Speaker 10: On to have children, is that going to cause some

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Speaker 10: sort of baby boom among the women who were told that, oh,

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Speaker 10: you don't need.

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Speaker 9: Babies to be happy. I think a Kelsey baby that

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Speaker 9: Taylor Swift is carrying around is going to do more

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Speaker 9: for fertility rates than any government program.

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Speaker 2: But do you think that, Taylor Swift? What are you

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Speaker 2: going to sign on with my take? Or are you

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Speaker 2: bucks take that this is a ridiculous.

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Speaker 9: Take, that that she's comparable to the Beatles. Yes, I

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Speaker 9: mean yeah, she comparable to the Beatles, comparable to Madonna,

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Speaker 9: She's comparable to any humongous artists of their time.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I just I just think that we're we're forgetting.

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Speaker 2: I liked her, I knew I like Carol. She's an

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Speaker 2: astute observer of the human condition and regularly analyzes in

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Speaker 2: a perceptive way the larger media ecosystem. I've always said that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that you look at the Beatles,

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Speaker 1: maybe has the biggest impact on music global after the Mustagers, Carol,

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Speaker 1: I have grown, the beard has started to come back in,

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Speaker 1: the mustache is longer.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a decision going forward, how exactly

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Speaker 2: this has This decision is going to go. But I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: let's be honest, I am the most trusted mustache in news.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: There aren't a lot of it's not a lot of competition,

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Speaker 2: but that makes me the most trusted.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's.

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Speaker 4: Time to shave that.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not the same like your wife.

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Speaker 1: I like, I think the mustache is great. As a fan, well,

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Speaker 1: well you know, I'm entitled. There we go, go check

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Speaker 1: out the Carol Markowitz Show. Everybody check it out on

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Speaker 1: the Klamak podcast Network. Ms Markowitz, great to have you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in play Travis bock Sexton show, rolling into

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Speaker 2: the third hour here in a bit. But yesterday, I

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Speaker 2: believe it was yesterday, President Trump had a Black History

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Speaker 2: celebration in the White House and a grandma got up

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Speaker 2: and she has gone megaviral for what she said. And

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Speaker 2: you can enjoy that here. This is a pro Trump grandma.

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Speaker 11: Listen the beautiful bill that's gone change crime in the district.

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Speaker 11: If you kill somebody, okay, you'll take a life.

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Speaker 2: You do life, just that simple.

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Speaker 11: And you do a host crime, you do housh time,

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Speaker 11: just that simple. And if we need National Guard, and

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Speaker 11: which we did years ago, he brought it on. I

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Speaker 11: love him. I don't want to hear nothing you got

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Speaker 11: to say about their racist stuff. And don't be looking

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Speaker 11: at me at the news hate knowing me because I'm

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Speaker 11: standing up for somebody. Get deserves to me, stand up

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Speaker 11: for Get out the man's back. Let him do his job.

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Speaker 11: He's doing the right thing.

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Speaker 4: Back up off of it.

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Speaker 2: And Grandma said it. That is the grandma said it.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you nodding along out there. That was

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Speaker 2: yesterday in the White House, as as President Trump honor

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Speaker 2: Black history and actually spend a decent amount of time,

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Speaker 2: I believe based on the clips that I saw, also

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Speaker 2: talking about the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who he got along

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Speaker 2: with Trump did quite well and an issue a statement

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Speaker 2: that I thought was very kind on the passing at

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Speaker 2: eighty four years old of Jesse Jackson. I one other

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Speaker 2: good bit of news here as we finished the hour,

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Speaker 2: since I'm trying to look and make sure we got

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Speaker 2: good news. Thirty year mortgage rates are hitting four year

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Speaker 2: lows today. Buck. I don't know how much attention it's

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Speaker 2: going to get. They're still high right at six percent

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Speaker 2: on a thirty year and I know many of you

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Speaker 2: out there have got three percent, three and a half percent,

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Speaker 2: four percent mortgages, and so you're not going to be moving.

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Speaker 2: But these mortgage rates coming down to an era before

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Speaker 2: they started to skyrocket because of Joe Biden's inflation. It

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Speaker 2: is hugely important to the American economy because we have

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Speaker 2: to get more houses on the market, pricing will be

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Speaker 2: more reasonable, all those things. So many people are not

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Speaker 2: willing to move because of the mortgages that they have.

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Speaker 2: We get them back down to five percent, it's going

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Speaker 2: to make a tremendous difference. We could be moving in

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Speaker 2: that direction at some time this year. But mortgage rates

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Speaker 2: thirty years have hit a four year low. Worth mentioning

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Speaker 2: for people out there. As the spring shopping season for

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Speaker 2: homes gets closer and closer, I think there may be

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Speaker 2: a little bit more thawing because so many people are

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Speaker 2: just not willing to move based on the fifteen and

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Speaker 2: thirty year mortgage rates that they got. I know a

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Speaker 2: bunch of you are nodding along right now because you're saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I can sell my home, but I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: pay way more in mortgage rates no matter where I move.

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Speaker 2: And that is often true for a lot of people

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Speaker 2: out there. So that is worth mentioning and as positive,

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Speaker 2: very nice.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can sleep soundly at night knowing that the mortgage

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Speaker 1: rate has dropped some basis points.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we said a lot of positive thing

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Speaker 2: about but Buck's book, which is surging the bestseller list,

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Speaker 2: a VIP did find a typo Buck and because this

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Speaker 2: audience is more obsessed with grammar than anyone, he felt

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Speaker 2: compelled to write in the book is excellent. But just

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Speaker 2: letting you know that contact tracing was spelled contract tracing

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Speaker 2: on page eight Buck, how dare you I that typo?

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Speaker 1: I caught it when I was doing the audio book

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Speaker 1: of Manufacturing Delusion, which you should all go download if

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Speaker 1: you have not already, go get that audiobook. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: when I was reading it, that one, that one hit

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Speaker 1: me hard man. That one was. That was the one

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Speaker 1: title that.

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Speaker 2: The toughest thing about doing an audiobook is you see

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Speaker 2: things that you want to fix and it's too late

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Speaker 2: because they're off to the printer already.

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Speaker 1: I have read I read the manuscript, the final Manuscript

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Speaker 1: on thirty times throughout, I mean so many, to the

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Speaker 1: point where it was like a like I just my

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Speaker 1: eyes were falling out of my head, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: catch that one. So that was the one typo that

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Speaker 1: we weren't able to fix that I knew it was there,

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Speaker 1: but I promised next edition it'll be gone.