1 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Today we have Stacy Snyder for Love is Blind. I'm 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: very excited and she's excited and has something she wants 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: to get off her chest and give me a little 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: inside baseball now that it's gonna be World Series season 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: on that type of reality TV, like the formatted dating 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: reality TV, which I'm fascinated by. God help Us, God 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Help Us is funny. So welcome Stacy Snyder. Hi you, 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: what's up? Thank you so much for having me. Love 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: is blonde, Love is blonde, Love is blonde, and blind. 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Love is more blonde than blind. To be honest, Hi, Hi, 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's you. It's totally me. Nice to 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: meet you. Nice to meet you as well. I'm so excited. 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I appreciate you being here because I 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: know that like you also, unlike most guests, have specific 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: things you want to talk about and get off your 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: chest and share, which is what I do love the 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: most about this show. Like so often it's just an 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: exploration about a person, but I do like when we're 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: kind of getting into something that you haven't shared or 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: that is like you know that you want to express. 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that because I. 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Ran of course, and I feel like you're kind of 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: free range with conversation and I'm done to talk about whatever. 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure there were certain points 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: that you were good to chat about. 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm an no country person, So whatever turns twists you 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: want to take, I'm here for it perfect. 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: Likewise, So where do you live? Where are you? I'm 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: in Houston. You're in Houston? And how did you get 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: on to Love Is Blind? And how many seasons in 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: was it? 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: So? I was on season five, season five about a 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: year ago. Right now, we're in season seven, and I 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: think from what I've gathered for most people that have 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: done the show, a lot of the casting direct get 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: onto dating apps or LinkedIn so that they're quickly able 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: to see who's single. So they love like male getting 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: on to find female for the show and vice versa, 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: just to know who's single and then kind of stock 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: them on Instagram after that, they don't reach out on 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: a dating app. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: That's interesting to me. 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty smart, but after talking everyone else, it 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: was kind of the same thing, like, how would someone 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: find me on Instagram? Know that I'm single, know my 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Instagram handle? So on most dating apps you have your 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: socials listed. 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Yes, or you could find that's But that's interesting because 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: I feel there have been some like dating apps where 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: I've seen someone and maybe I didn't match with them, 52 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: or maybe because you got to be on like you 53 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: got to file into their rolodex, meaning it might not 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't get into their queue. Yeah, and if 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: you think you like someone, it's a good way to 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: go over and you could like message them on social media, 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: So it makes sense. Which wild? So you were on 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: do you know what dating app they found you on? 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: I would assim Bumble. 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: I think that was the only one that I was on, 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: but a lot of my friends said that they were 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: reached out too, So it was either that or they 63 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: found me in one of my friend's pictures that they 64 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: had asked about the show, and then they start like 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: clicking on everyone else. 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: So you were on Bumble and you were looking only 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: for men? Yes? Interesting? And how many years ago? Is 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: this two years ago? Oh? 69 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: God? Probably three three years ago. Our show aired a 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: year and a half after it was filmed. 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so that was probably three years ago. How was 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: dating on the apps and Bumble? And how was it? 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: And you've it was really shit? It was shit. 74 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people just have the 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: apps to be like I'm trying, and then you sifted 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and it's you don't find anything you like or you 77 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: you're open to going out, You go out and you're like, 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: that was a waste of my time. I'd rather not 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: waste my time and spend it doing things that I 80 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: like doing or hanging out with my friends or family 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: than wasting it on people that it's not going to 82 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: go anywhere with. 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Was that the only dating app you were on I was. 84 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: Eithering Bumble or Hinge. I honestly don't remember because I 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: haven't been on one in forever. Tinder I feel like 86 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: has played out or is just or like yeah for 87 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: for fuck boys. 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I find it's funny because I've had many matchmakers 89 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: on my dating podcast. For me personally, I've done way 90 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: better on apps than on uh with like very expensive, 91 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: high end matchmakers, and I think they're all lovely and 92 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: they give amazing advice and they're good for a certain experience. 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: But for me personally, I've done better on my own. 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: So it's interesting. 95 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: Do you think that they're pulling from the same pool 96 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: of people or is it have you found it's. 97 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Different, totally different, like word of mouth, and so I'm 98 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: very interested to know this because I find that dating 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: that matchmakers it's like real estate where you ask for 100 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: a certain house and then they bring you a house, 101 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: but it's really kind of different than the house you 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: ask for, but they think you might like it, so 103 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: they want to show you something. It doesn't have a 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: pool or it has a fireplace, so it's a little 105 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: out of your price range. Match Makers do that, meaning 106 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: like they'll find you someone but that is geographically undesirable, 107 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: but maybe very wealthy and seems to fit some version 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: of a profile or like a lot of men that 109 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: go to matchmakers that are that are very successful, because 110 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: that's often what happens with a matchmaker. It's someone who's 111 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: whose reason for going there is they want to kind 112 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: of check the box, and they say they don't have 113 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: time because they're so busy, and I think that they 114 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: want to in their minds, they want to meet someone, 115 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: but they want the person to come like a fully 116 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: put together, like a barbiedolle, a renovated house, like it's 117 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: just right in front of you and they want to 118 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: move in. It's like a spec house, but that's not 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: how life works. They don't really want to do the 120 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: work and make the effort. And I find that the 121 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: people on the apps are a little more proactive and 122 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: they're looking around a little little and they seem to 123 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: want to do the work more and are more intentional 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: what I've found than people who hire matchmakers. I'm sure. 125 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: I mean, they are exceptions to every rule, but I 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the very successful guys that 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: come to matchmakers think they want it, but in essence, 128 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: they're really very like their type A or their mobiles, 129 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: and they're set in their ways and they really don't 130 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: want to adjust that much. 131 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: And they think that if they're paying for the service 132 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: they're going to get, you're going to ask for thank you. 133 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: It's exactly that's what I'm saying. You're like walking, you 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: get the spec house, you know, do any work on it? 135 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: A friend to come a friend who I went on 136 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: a date with, very well to do guy, same thing 137 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: where he's like I can't find what I'm looking for, 138 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think that's the problem. So 139 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: then they pay someone to find them stuff, and I'm like, 140 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: they're going to bring you what you're asking for but 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: who's to say that those women are going to like 142 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: you back. 143 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: It's literally throwing money at the problem in cases, But 144 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: I do you know, they do have a function and 145 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: they do have good listen, you also have to do it. 146 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: They also don't bring you people. It's not often, so 147 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: you have to wait. Like it's really like you could 148 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: wait weeks and weeks and their model is like, oh, 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: but you might wait six months, but then we bring 150 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: you the right person. But I've gone three months and 151 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: they'll introduce you like one or two people, and you know, 152 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: so it's just I just find it to be very interesting. 153 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: But with the apps, it's fishing. You could I've only 154 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: ever met two people in years of like dab in there, 155 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Like it's not that easy because people say, how did 156 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: you meet this person? As if people are actually no. 157 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I also think you have to know how to navigate 158 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: the apps. I think you have to really know how 159 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: to navigate them, how. 160 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: To really like sift through like what they look like 161 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: and what they're saying to know if you would even 162 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: have anything in common. 163 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Sift what they're saying, go over to the to what 164 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: they do. Go yeah, you got to cross reference. It's 165 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: like it's I think I'm pretty I mean, I actually 166 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: think I'm excellent at it. 167 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: I've heard that really during your podcast and here in 168 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: the South it's different. 169 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: But I'm interested to know. Is there a picture, a 170 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: type of picture that a guy. 171 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: Could have on a dating app that you would immediately 172 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: be like no, just because of a type of picture 173 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: they have, whether it's yeah, you know, if they're holding 174 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: a fish or whatever. 175 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Well, the fish holding a fish is a big thing. Obviously, 176 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: a tank top is not great. Someone who has no 177 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: shirt on in any pictures like that's not a good choice, 178 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: no matter what they look like, because either they're narcissistic 179 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: or they're not like self aware. But sometimes they have 180 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: a kid next to them that has like an emoji 181 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: over the face because they don't want show their kid. 182 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: It's dude, get your fucking camera out. Or there's like 183 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: a woman in one of the pictures. You're not sure 184 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: if it's your your assistant or your best friend, your sister. 185 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: It's weird. You know you mistakenly have you mistakenly you 186 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: have a good picture of you from three years ago, 187 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and you happen to still be wearing a wedding ring. 188 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: You're so stupid that you didn't realize that, like just 189 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: dumb things like that. And then sometimes but I've gone 190 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: out with someone and been wrong, Like it's been a 191 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: picture of someone looking super handsome and slick and it's 192 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: like too slick, and I'm annoyed. But I've been wrong 193 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: about that. It's you know, or someone's trying to flex. 194 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm at the super Bowl, I'm next to someone famous 195 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and next to your plan. I'm next through a picture, 196 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: thank you, I'm next to a Ferrari. Anyone who is 197 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: anywhere near a private plane on social media, on a 198 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: dating app does not have one. Okay, these are good, 199 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: these are good? Doesn't have one? Yeah? Okay? So all right, 200 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: So you have been with only men your whole life 201 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,359 Speaker 1: up to your television dating career, like that was you? 202 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: You? 203 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Female? Blind? Did you? Did you know? 204 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: I've been with a woman before, probably in my early twenties. 205 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: It was a two year relationship. We lived together. Interesting. Oh, 206 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: women in my family knew about it. I never told 207 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: my dad. He's pretty conservative, and I'm like, I don't 208 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: know if this is going to work out. I don't 209 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: know how he's going to take it. It was my first 210 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: experience with a woman. So I didn't know what I 211 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: was doing. I was afraid sexually, I mean all of it. 212 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: Like I was afraid of what people were going to 213 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: think or say as far as my family, because in 214 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: our family, at least with me and my sisters were 215 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: looked at as a certain pot they produced. They all 216 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: got scholarships in school. I cheered in school. The guys 217 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: that I've been with are successful look a certain way, 218 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think that they're going to 219 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: be able. 220 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: To compute no and short circuit. 221 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I knew if I expressed that to them, 222 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: it would also put pressure on the relationship I was in. 223 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: So I was just going in circles of like I 224 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: needed your life. I feel like I'm living a double life, 225 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: but here's what's going to happen if I do. So 226 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: I literally was living a double life with parts of 227 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: my family and my relationship. 228 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: But this really with her? Was she gay? 229 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Mm hm? 230 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: So you were like with her friends and a bunch 231 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: of girls doing that stuff. You had like two different lives. 232 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: You were like living that fun life, yeah, and then 233 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: you're over here with your family doing like. 234 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: Oh, and then she was around and they just thought 235 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: that she was my friend, right, yeah, right, interesting? Okay, 236 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: So you were kind of in the closet and did 237 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: you were you in love? 238 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? And where is she now? I don't know. I 239 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: think Charlotte. I think she hasn't reached out and said, 240 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: oh my god like you. Finally. 241 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know what to expect with that. I 242 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: was honestly interested to know, and I was. I was 243 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: recently in a Charlotte, so I'm like, oh my god, 244 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: this would be my life where I run into her somewhere. 245 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: And at one point she had come to visit me 246 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: in Houston, not in a romantic way, but probably five 247 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: six years ago. And since that point or from when 248 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: we dated to when I saw her here, it had 249 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: have been at least ten years. So it's like we're 250 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: different people. We look different. So it was very awkward. 251 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: Not even like we're close friends at that point, but 252 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: we had been path lovers. It was awkward. So after that, 253 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: I feel like it left in a strange place. 254 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: But she's definitely proud of you now, like wow, go go, 255 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Interesting. Okay, So I had Gabby 256 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Wendy on here too, So it's an interesting dynamic because 257 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: she was on the Bachelor the Bachelorette? Was it The 258 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Bachelor the Bachelorette? And like that's such a sort of 259 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: traditional values type of show and you're from, you know, Houston. 260 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: How serious is your relationship now? 261 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: It's hard to say, because I feel like with women, 262 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: it's very different. It moves a lot faster. The emotions 263 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: come in a lot sooner, just because we're more emotionally 264 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: intact people or what am I trying to say, more 265 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: aware of. 266 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Our remove expressive, more emotionally expressive, yeah, emoting more. Yeah, 267 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: So it's serious in a way, like we're in love, 268 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's moved a lot quicker than 269 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: it would in a heterosexual relationship, at least compared to 270 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: my past. How long has it been four months? It's 271 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: been four months, but I think three months is a 272 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: critical juncture. So at three months, you guys are like, 273 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: we're doing this. 274 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, But we also were friends for almost a year 275 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: before this happened, so you have to consider the trust 276 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: getting to know someone. 277 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: All of that is already in place. 278 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: We've been friends for a year, we know who each 279 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: other is, we know each other's families. So then when 280 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: it switches into dating. You're not wasting the time to 281 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: figure all that out. You're like, Okay, they're a good person. 282 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: I like their values. We have all these things in common. 283 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: The sucky part is like we either give this a 284 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: go and if it doesn't work out, I just lost 285 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: one of. 286 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: My yeahs friends. Necessarily, not necessarily, but yeah, a good shot. 287 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: When I've tried it, it hasn't gone well for me. You 288 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: never know. You're you're older, you might be wiser, are you? 289 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: So it's very serious. So are you? Are you gay? 290 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Or are you by do I? Do you have any 291 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: labels for yourself? Do you think of yourself in a 292 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: certain way, like would you? Are you attracted to men? Yeah, 293 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm attracted to men and women. 294 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: But it's interesting because I never even knew that any 295 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: of this was going to be publicized. I was just 296 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: trying to put out that I was in a happy relationship. 297 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: So when I traveled and put up pictures with her, 298 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: it's like, I'm taken, I'm happy, I'm in a relationship. 299 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that it was going to. 300 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: Be all over the pro disruptive that I'm queer, because 301 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: then that word to me is funny. 302 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm open about being with a woman. 303 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: And I've been with a woman before, and I've been 304 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: with men, have been engaged one that to me was 305 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: hard to like that. 306 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Want to be labeled? Yeah, I don't know. You wouldn't 307 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: have to be right, you know, I'm gut saying, God forbid, 308 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: this doesn't work out. You could be on an app 309 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: again looking for men and women, right. 310 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly it's all pretty new to me since 311 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: this all just kind of came out, and I feel 312 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: pressure to have a label or people are labeling me, 313 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: and I don't want to disagree with them or agree 314 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: with them. 315 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: It's just unfamiliar. You're a person and you are a track. Yeah, 316 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I think I think that well. By the way, that 317 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: gives you double the freaking respect with respect to your girlfriend. Now, 318 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't want her to be mad at me. I'm 319 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: not talking like this. I hope you guys spend the 320 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: rest of your lives together if that's what you want. 321 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it does open the menu up to 322 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: a lot more options. So let me ask you a question. 323 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: This is a weird transition. What how is the sex 324 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: different with a man and a woman for you? Like, 325 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I do I didn't take geometry. I just mean, 326 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: how does it feel different? How do you experience it 327 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: differently from a communications standpoint from not from a hardware standpoint? 328 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: I do, Like I said, I took geometry, but like, 329 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: how does it feel different? Or you know, when you're 330 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: with another woman, is it more talking while doing it, 331 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: talking about it when you're not doing it? Is it 332 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: intimidating at first? 333 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: So think about it in this way. It's different. Probably 334 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: with all the partners you had. Some are probably more vocal, 335 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: Some probably like foreplay more than others. Some probably just 336 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: want to get straight to the point, Some are more adventurous. 337 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: Location. It's similar in that way. 338 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: Obviously the mechanics right different, and it's different. This is 339 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: the main thing is it's kind of like one person's 340 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: always working it, and when you're having sex with a man, 341 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: it's like you're both I guess finding pleasure at the 342 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: same time, which I find. 343 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: To be pressure. Why because if everybody isn't no both 344 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: a man and a woman having to do it at 345 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: the same time. Because I like one at a time, 346 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't need everybody doesn't need to be having any 347 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: You don't always have to be in tandem. And everything 348 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: happens at the exact same time. It puts pressure on 349 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: both people. I think, like, I'm I'm I'm gift. Giving 350 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: is my love language. Let's just say that. So giving. 351 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm definitely a giver. But it's hard to give and 352 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: take at the same time, is what I think. That's 353 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: so interesting. Sometimes it isn't. Sometimes it all lines up, 354 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: but sometimes it's pressure. See I feel pressure when I'm 355 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: with her because I'm a giver. 356 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: And then I almost feel bad where it's like one 357 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: person's giving at a time where instead of it both 358 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: give and receiving at the same time. 359 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: So we're saying the same thing but on the opposite. Yeah, 360 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: I like that. I'd rather everybody, like, let's focus on you. 361 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, even you could be having sex and 362 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: everybody's having a great time, but like getting it whatever 363 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: we need to get done the goal oriented aspect. Let's 364 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: focus on you, make sure it's going to be fucking amazing, 365 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: and then we'll focus on me. Yeah, I feel like 366 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: I should be a lesbian, so I should be good. 367 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah this whole thing Okay, So I fucked, so I 368 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: should be lesbian. Oh, you've never never been with a woman? 369 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Tried sex. No, I've never even made out with a woman. 370 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: I kiss a girl one time for two seconds. Like, no, 371 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: never been with a woman. I am really attracted. I'm 372 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: a really I'm like, I'm a guy. I really think. 373 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any gray area. I just don't 374 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: sick one hundred percent. I don't like the hardware. I 375 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: don't like the hardware. And a woman, I'm like one, 376 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: it's it's enough that one of us has that hardware. 377 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't. We don't need to. I'm good. Oh my god, 378 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: I love it. Now let's get into love. So you 379 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: go on. Love is blind and I'm sure, what do 380 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: you do for a living? 381 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: So? I was working full time in oil and gas, oh, 382 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: for Perfect Texas. So I was working in oil and 383 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: gas for my dad's company. I was teaching plate's part 384 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: time when the show had or not aired. We had 385 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: filmed the show, it hadn't aired. I used to be 386 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: a personal stylist when I lived in Nashville, and I 387 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: read asking me to style them here, So I started 388 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: doing that as a side gig. So now I have 389 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: floates and styling as a side gig. When the show 390 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: comes out and people are like Oh my god, I 391 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: love your clothes. I love your outfit. 392 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: Do you do this a kind of to call it again, closet, 393 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: the closet audit, the closet audit. I like that name. 394 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: I was doing, thank you. 395 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: I was doing that as a side thing, and then 396 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: with the publicity of the show and whatever I was wearing, 397 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 2: that kind of took off in its own way. And 398 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: now it's inconsistent. And so is social media with me 399 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: doing digital crea. So I'm trying to navigate where to 400 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: how to brand yourself so it's not confusing because it 401 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: is confusing. Yeah, and I listened to one of your 402 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: recent podcasts about balance and the muscle being fatigued. I'm like, 403 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: I am so crapped out, but I feel like I 404 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: have to put as much energy as I can into 405 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: all these outlets until I figure which one's consistent enough 406 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: to provide, because I can't leave oil and gas if 407 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: this can't provide the roof over my head. So I'm 408 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: pulling back from oil and gas, but I'm still working 409 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: in it for my benefits. I'm still subbing here and 410 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: there at the Plate Studio because I have a personal 411 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: relationship with the owner. I have my clients at the 412 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: closet audit, and then I'm creating content getting brain. 413 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: Deals through that that is exhausting. Well, it's more exhausting 414 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: because you don't have one thread. It's just it would 415 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: be less exhausting if you knew the line that it 416 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: all adheres to. But by the way, knowing that you 417 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: don't know that is more than half the battle, because 418 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: many people are trying to fit twenty five pounds of 419 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: shit in a five pound bag, but they don't know 420 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: the difference. I know people that are very successful, very wealthy, 421 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: that could be so much more because they're like they're 422 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: famous people, but they they're they're doing everything, they're doing this, 423 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: they're doing the other thing, and they don't even know 424 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: that they that they don't have one brand. And so 425 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: at least you know that, like you'll you'll you'll you'll 426 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: figure it out, you'll find tune it. Then, yeah, you know, 427 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying too. It's just you know, you'll find where 428 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: the fish are. You'll have to find with the you 429 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: just have to pull back and but you have to 430 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: do what you truly love doing and what really speaks 431 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: to you. Otherwise you're not going to find the one 432 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: thing out of all that, like if. 433 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: You're and I love the fashion stuff in styling and 434 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: the social media stuff, but also our show just aired 435 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: a year ago, and I want to make sure that 436 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: what I'm getting now isn't just because of a little pop. 437 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: I want it to be consistent. So it is getting 438 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: more and more consistent. But a year I'm like, that's 439 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: not enough to know. 440 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: I think if again, you could be you could be 441 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: known by being nobody and not having been on that show. 442 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I don't watch that show. I've seen that show, but no, 443 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: and not no, but a lot of people I know 444 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: don't watch it. No one here in my office knows 445 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: anything about it, like those young girls here. So you 446 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: also were going to get into the show. But you know, 447 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: when you're in your own world about the one thing, 448 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: you think that everybody else is like paying attention to 449 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: it and knows it because it's what you know. It's 450 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: the same thing with Bravo, like I literally no one 451 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: I know watches Bravo talks about Bravo cares about the 452 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: housewives like no one only a certain group. But you 453 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: think when you're in that space that that group represents. 454 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: But that's all that exists well, because I was the 455 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: golden child of the whole thing. Yeah, I'm just not 456 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: really that afraid. And I also just said something out loud, 457 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: and when I said out loud, you know, talked about 458 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the exploitation, so many people were so desperate and came 459 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: in and had been so fucked that I felt like 460 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't leave them because I had been the one 461 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: to say it, and I got in so deep that 462 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: being said, it's not you know, I don't live there anymore, 463 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't really affect me. It doesn't affect me. I 464 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to sort of be there for other people 465 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: that it does affect. And also I guess it was 466 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: kind of it was definitely courageous slash if I cared, 467 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: it would be slash stupid because you're just definitely burning 468 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: one bridge. But I that's a bridge took place I 469 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: don't ever want to be, and I can relate to that. 470 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: And that's one of the main reasons that I was 471 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: really wanting to speak to you, because when I came 472 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: off of filming with the show, I so desperately was 473 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: trying to find someone I could relate to as far 474 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: as what I experienced with these production companies, one that 475 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: I had worked with, because I'm like, there's no way, 476 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: there's no way, there's no way that someone went through 477 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: this and hasn't done something. 478 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh I am like up in the head and I 479 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: couldn't find a damn thing. 480 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: So then I'm second guessing my reality of maybe it 481 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: was me that was the problem because everyone else seems 482 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: to be just fine capitalizing off of this, and then 483 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: you hear from maybe one percent of the people that 484 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: have done it. 485 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I kind of experienced something like that. 486 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: But then all of my friends, after seeing what I 487 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: went through, they were like, have you seen Bethany's special 488 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: on this? And I'm like, no, I don't watch a 489 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: lot of TV, right, Like, you should have watched that 490 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: before you went on this thing. 491 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like why because I'm not even that way. 492 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, if I am who I am on a show, 493 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't care because I'm going to say what I think. 494 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: But I never took into consideration how that all works 495 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: with editing, And so when I watched it, it made 496 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: me feel validated, and I'm sure it made other people 497 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: feel the same way, because there's not a lot of 498 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: people to relate to when it comes to this space. 499 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the common thing is, oh, you signed up 500 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: for it and you knew it. You really don't know 501 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: what you're getting into, and yes, do you want fame 502 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: and do you want money? And it could be great, 503 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: but you do sort of in your mind consider it 504 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: a workplace you think you're walking into, like an official 505 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: workplace of some non traditional type. And it's shocking the exploitation. 506 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: But by the way the reality reckoning changed the industry, 507 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: like the way that they their practices, their alcohol consumption, 508 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: the touchy feeliness about it, the over like the therapized 509 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: aspect of it. Now it's been changed forever. Every production 510 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: company is validated that it's not the same as it 511 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: used to be. So I did it? Did it did 512 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: make a difference, But like, so let's talk about so 513 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Love is Blind. This is Netflix. So you go on 514 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Love is Blind. I'm sure you did it also as 515 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: an entertainment experience. You weren't doing it to meet someone 516 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: in some pot, right, You're like, this is a TV show. 517 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: I was like, what's the worst that can happen? 518 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: Dating sucks if I don't meet someone, maybe on meet 519 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: some cool girls, or it's just like, hey, I never know, 520 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: I never knew what TV was like, Okay, you see 521 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: the behind the scenes and then you're done, or it 522 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: could be something in twenty years that I look back 523 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: and it's like. 524 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Wow, that's really cool that I did that. No, that's 525 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: really cool. 526 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: But where my mind was as an experience, but I 527 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: didn't know how many of it worked. 528 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know what having does it work? So what 529 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: is your experience there? Like, what was how long was 530 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: it and what was the day to day experience? Because 531 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: I've been on different shows. I was on The Apprentice, 532 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: which is an extremely different experience than being on the 533 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: Housewife and every other show. 534 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: So they recruit whoever you get chosen as a cast mate, 535 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: they fly everyone else the same time. 536 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Ours was probably the first week of April. 537 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: They do basic onboarding for the first couple of days, 538 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: putting you in hotels, going over what the experience is 539 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: going to be, like what you can and can't do. Basically, 540 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: you can't talk to anyone, you don't have a phone, 541 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 2: you don't have any means of communication. 542 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: For what period of time? 543 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: This was the Apprentice too well for me, it's until 544 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: you're done filming or until we got back from Mexico 545 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: was for me, so I probably didn't have a phone 546 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: for almost three weeks. So your filming experience was three 547 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: weeks till Mexico. Overall, we wrapped right before it was 548 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: our wedding was Memorial Day weekend and of May, so. 549 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: All of April two months. Okay, So you're filming for 550 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: two months and what are you getting paid? I think 551 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: it was one thousand dollars a week. Thousand dollars a week, okay, 552 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: And so what is the experience like from like a 553 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: production standpoint versus the actual like mechanics of the relationship 554 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: standpoint When you're in. 555 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: The pods and when it's the whole group thing before 556 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: you pick a person, it's very different than when you're 557 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: with one person. So when you're filming in the lounge 558 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: and the pods, the cameras are kind of set. In 559 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: the lounge, they can move, but they kind of have 560 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: their positions to get the angles if you're talking to 561 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: someone there. And then in the pods they have a 562 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: camera in each pod. But then there's certain pods that 563 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: have the cameras that like roll back and forth, the 564 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: bigger ones, so you know if you're going into a 565 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: certain pod, you're going to be with someone that they 566 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: want to film with. 567 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: That's like the better cameras, where there's a person in 568 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: there instead of it just being you can tell when 569 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: there when there's like more heat on something, well I. 570 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: Picked that up, or you don't know until you go 571 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: into all the pods and they're like this one is smaller, 572 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: this one has a set camera right here, And then 573 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: there's ones where there's like they know the stars are 574 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: kind of or it's like, okay, I know I'm going 575 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: on a date with easier this person or a big 576 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: date because I'm going into five or ten because they 577 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: don't want they want to there's a person in there 578 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: with the camera in those pods or whichever one it was, 579 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: and the other one's more produced. 580 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Those are more produced. Okay, So what is it like 581 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 1: to let's just talk about the sociologic sociological aspect of it. 582 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: Can you meet and be attracted to someone just but 583 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: from their voice? Can you learn a lot of about 584 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: someone with it? I mean, I guess we do it 585 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: on texting on apps, but you have seen their pictures 586 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: and maybe you FaceTime them. But I want to know 587 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: about like really connecting with someone that you've never seen. 588 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: So it's very interesting because the voice piece you one 589 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: kind of imagine what they look like based on their voice. 590 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Just is it ever accurate for some of them, Like 591 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: one of the guys sounded like f five four fum 592 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: big guy, like cracking beer. So I'm like, I'm imagining 593 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: a guy that goes fishing and just like big and 594 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: just the things that he was talking about in his voice, 595 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: like his inflection, like he it was accurate. 596 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he said, so someone sounds hot, they usually 597 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: are hot, not all the time. 598 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: There were some guys where I was like, his voice 599 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: sounds pretty normal or he's whatever, and then in person 600 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: he was like a complete do work, Like I would 601 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: have never expected that when you listen to a voice. 602 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: Some of them had really cringe voices, like a like 603 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: that sound in a voice where you're turned off. But 604 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: they may be like an entrepreneur, a lawyer, something that 605 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh that's great, tell me more. 606 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: Where'd you go to school? 607 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: I want to do whatever it is, But their voice, 608 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: You're like, I'm really having to ignore that almost like 609 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: looks it's almost like we did you? Yeah? 610 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Did you ever? Like you may not you've never thought 611 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: about voice as much until you were in there, No, 612 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: because that's all you have. Yeah, that's all you have. 613 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: Interesting and what about like this person has like a 614 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: big dick personality that type of thing, like, but you 615 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: know is that usually kind of Yeah, you can tell 616 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: that like short or tall or this person sounds short, 617 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: like does any not with height? I wasn't able to 618 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: tell that. 619 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: But you can tell when people think that they are 620 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: God's gift to earth and are. 621 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: They usually not. 622 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: If they think they're God's gift to earth, they're either 623 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: very narcissistic or just very inexperienced in life and have 624 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 2: an experienced enough to know that they're not. Okay, So 625 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: you meet this guy and did you think you were 626 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 2: falling in love with him? Like what did you just 627 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: from the voice? Like what did you think were you 628 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: first impressions of the guy that I ended up with. 629 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't that into him. They have you rank everyone 630 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: at the end of the day and then they do 631 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: their matchmaking and their little machine to see if you 632 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: get another date with them. 633 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: And he kind of fell in the middle of the pack. 634 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: I like a lot of charisma and confidence someone coming 635 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: in like leading a conversation, leading questions, having something interesting 636 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 2: to say outside of I'm this old. This is what 637 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: I do for a living, like, ask me something interesting death, 638 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: And he didn't have a lot of that off the bat, 639 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: and he was younger, so I'm like, eh, But then 640 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: he told you how old he was. You asked the age, well, 641 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: most of them, because your first date, you date everyone 642 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: and it's ten to fifteen minutes, so it's very like, 643 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm fromil weird, this is oh yeah, the first date's 644 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: pretty quick. And so for me, age was kind of 645 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: a thing because I was the oldest woman. I was 646 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 2: thirty three, and I'm like, if I want to get 647 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: married and settled down, i'd like someone in the same place. 648 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: And there weren't any guys that were my age. Mine 649 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: was twenty nine. The guy I was with was twenty nine, 650 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: where I'm like, God, you don't know until you compare 651 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: them to everyone, right, So at first I'm with him, 652 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm like eh, But then I compare him to everyone else, 653 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess he's seven compared to everyone else, 654 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: And I don't really know. I think it was just 655 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: a slow burn where once I gave him a chance, 656 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: he had a lot of depth emotionally, and at first 657 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't that turned on by him because he didn't 658 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: have a lot of It didn't seem like dry. 659 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: Then how do you end up? So how did you 660 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: end up with the sky? I think it was the 661 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: vulnerability and the emotional connection because I was more about 662 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the on paper stuff in my past, where I had 663 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: guys that were successful, went to great schools, great families, 664 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: like checked all the boxes, but they weren't giving me 665 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: what I needed emotionally. You were second guessing your normal 666 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: gut instinct and you would try to like make this 667 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: square fit into a circle in this experience, and then 668 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: I fantasizing it. 669 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: You were like, so it flipped the script where I'm like, 670 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: maybe it hasn't worked in the past, so I'm going 671 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: to do the complete opposite where he doesn't have the 672 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: financial stability. 673 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: I did that. I'd marry that I did that, and 674 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: you're like, maybe this will work, and maybe it's I 675 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: added normal. I needed a normal, basic, small town guy 676 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: because because it's the pendulum, you go for the opposite 677 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: thing of what you did before, but it doesn't mean 678 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: it's what you need. You're just doing the sweeping over correction, 679 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: which this expert on here said so interesting, because then 680 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: you're like, then what do I do the in between? 681 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: Or is it just you have to just have a 682 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: baseline about what you want in life. You're young, so 683 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter now not to be also disrespectful 684 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: to the person you're with them. You may be together forever, 685 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: but at a certain age you have to take everything 686 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: down to the sticks and have your own perspective and 687 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: your own opinion about what you really want versus like, 688 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: I need this because I just had that that didn't work. 689 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: He was controlling, so now I needed. Really this you 690 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: need to take You need to like go back to 691 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: your gut instincts, take the house down to the sticks 692 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: and decide on your own what you need, is my opinion. 693 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Did you talk about being interested in women or that 694 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: you had ever been interested in women with this guy 695 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: or no? 696 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did know that, and there was another girl 697 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: on the show that was admittedly bisexual. 698 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know why they don't really know that. 699 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just distruct the audience, but 700 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: maybe the audience isn't. 701 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever we talked. 702 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: About intimacy, sexuality, what he was into, what I was into. 703 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: That was something that came up, But so financial issues. 704 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: What was what ultimately broke you guys up in the 705 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: experience or not completely? That was one of them, but 706 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: it was also just the lack of transparency with it. 707 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: I get everyone has their baggage, or maybe it's student 708 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: loans or I started a business, I have this, But 709 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: when someone presents I have no debt, I'm ready to 710 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: settle down. I'm ready to get married. Maybe it's the 711 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 2: difference in how you view marriage, but for me, you 712 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: have to be in a certain place to be ready 713 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: for marriage. You've got to have your shit together. You're 714 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: not living at home. You have a job that's consistent 715 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: enough for you to know you can get promoted or 716 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: move up or laterally move like what are your goals? 717 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: That to me is when you are ready to have 718 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: a partner. You are a team. And with this person, 719 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: I think their view was happily ever after the love 720 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: of my life, you figure it out our way. If 721 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: I love them, love is enough. And that was a 722 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: huge disconnect. 723 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: But he literally is perfect for the show because love 724 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: is blind perfect that's why they love us, like literally 725 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: not blind. So he is perfect for show. He's like 726 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: the poster child because he really thinks love is blind, which, yeah, 727 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the name is ridiculous because love is not blind and 728 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: love does have conditions. 729 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: I thought it was more about the looks piece of it, 730 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: love is blind, because the whole point is to get 731 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: engaged sight unseen. But I still stand my ground on that, Like, 732 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: you were not ready for marriage when you have no 733 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: credit and you're lying about your financial issues. Where the 734 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: money went? Why don't you have any It's not that 735 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: I'm judging you that a big piece. 736 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: How did you get into that? How do you catapult 737 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: so quickly into knowing all that? How does that happen 738 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: so one? It's a very fast moving train that you're on. 739 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: I was in therapy way before I started the show. 740 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: I told him I was doing the show. I was 741 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: worried about my mental health and doing it. And I 742 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: consistently was doing therapy while we were still filming and 743 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: after and I'm like, I think I'm gonna get married. 744 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: I really did. I really thought that. I'm like, what 745 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: are the tools that I need? Cause we don't have 746 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: time for premarital counseling. And she was like the two 747 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: biggest reasons for divorce are communication and finances. So it 748 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: sounds like you've got communication figured out. She's like, what 749 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: I have all my couples do as I have them 750 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: pull out all of their bank statements, credit card statements, 751 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: bring whatever credit card it is you have, and you 752 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: both swap in a session review it. Oh, five hundred 753 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: dollars every month for golf. Okay, I know that that's 754 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: normal for him. So when we're in a joint account 755 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: or oh. 756 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: My god, I would die if someone was in my 757 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: finances and what I spent. 758 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: I tell people, but you're about to marry someone, so 759 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: don't you need to know these things yet? No? 760 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know, yeah, but I mean I have 761 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: enough money that no one's gonna worry about that, and 762 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: like I don't want them to know all thenution, yes, 763 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: I was totally fair. 764 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: But this is someone that I've known for two weeks. 765 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: Its married in two weeks, sois ridicula? 766 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: But why was it? Why? Yeah? I guess how that's 767 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: what happens. Do you get into like the fantasy of 768 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: it and you actually think you could marry someone if 769 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: to four weeks? Like what the hell? 770 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: You? Well, if you think about it, yeah, you kind 771 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: of are you're in the middle of nowhere, you have 772 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: no communication with friends, family, you don't have a TV, 773 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: you have no phone, you have no current and does 774 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: anybody has anybody's worked. Yeah, but it's very slim at 775 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: this point. It's like averaging maybe one couple that gets married. 776 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: Every season. 777 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: A couple have split, and there's a couple that I 778 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: see and I've been like, wow, they have a great relationship. Really, 779 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: But I think that comes down to that one percent 780 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: where they're on the experiment. They're both in the same 781 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: place in life, they both have whatever, accomplished the same thing, 782 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: they're looking for the same thing, and it just took 783 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: a random thing to bring them together. 784 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: But that's so rare, that is the no. But it's 785 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: still the fact that it's happened at all on there 786 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: is shocking. But yeah, I mean I know Tristan Ryan 787 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: from years ago. It's all shocking. Yeah, but that the 788 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: show is probably more pure back then. If I had 789 00:34:46,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: to guess for sure, So what was the trauma of 790 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: the experience for you? What was so terrible? 791 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: I guess it's just the manipulation. That's maybe it's standard 792 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: in reality TV. But when I was speaking with other people, 793 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: especially the person that I was with. 794 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Their experience was positive. This was the best thing I've 795 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: ever done. I had so. 796 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: Much fun, the food and the sweet that we had, 797 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: and I saw it, I'm like, that is not what 798 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: I was given. 799 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't given that way. Why what do you mean? 800 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Why why would someone else have a different experience because 801 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: they wanted them to be on the show. I don't think. 802 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm confused. I'm confused. 803 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that I was ever a desired candidate 804 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 2: to be seen on this show. I think that casting 805 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: priest will This is a thought, but it proves to 806 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: be consistent in what I've seen. They have what I 807 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: called chosen ones, where they pick people. They're like, this 808 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: is going to be our frontrunner before anything's happened. This 809 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 2: is going to be able to surprise them. But yes, 810 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: of course, this is be my front runner. This is 811 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: who we really want to be together. This is who 812 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 2: we're going to put on these dates. We need them 813 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: to be out of there together. I think I was 814 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: meant to be the blonde that came in that wasn't 815 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: chosen and had a couple of blips that I say 816 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: where people can make fun of me and I knew 817 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: who I was with was supposed to be the front runner. 818 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: I knew that leader on based on how he was 819 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: being treated and spoken to in comparison to how I 820 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: was being treated and spoken to and how things played 821 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: out with airing like it is very clear to me 822 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: I was it was like, oh he chose her. 823 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: Oh that was Oh. They they really didn't want him 824 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: to choose you. You're saying, no, why you're beautiful? You're what? 825 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: Because I think who they wanted him to be with 826 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: this who they kept pushing him to be with, who 827 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: was on who was on the main in commercial trailer whatever, 828 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: which has never happened in Love is Blinde there's always 829 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: a trailer that shows all the drama and all these 830 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: random characters and then the wedding dress, the bells, duh, 831 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: and with ours it was just. 832 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: These two people. 833 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: Was my ex and who his person that was his 834 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: number one the whole time until he chose me, And 835 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: then they keep bringing that person back when they're not engaged, 836 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: they're not a part of this show anymore, but they 837 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: keep bringing them back on to piss me off and 838 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 2: to to make me look bad. 839 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: And why did it make it so? You feel that 840 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: the show that editing made you look bad, which by 841 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: the way, happens to everybody and most people. But like, 842 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: what was Were you like a pariah in your town? 843 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: Was it like really damaging? Was it bad? Not my town? 844 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm connected in what I do and who 845 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: I'm with around here. It's not so much that. It's 846 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: more that feeling of someone making you look like something 847 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 2: that you're just not. And that is the part of 848 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: reality TV. Yes, but I guess it comes down to 849 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: opportunities that you get or don't get compared to other 850 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: people that are on the show or on your season. 851 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: And like production and Netflix have never reached out to 852 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 2: me to be included into any networking functions reunions. Everyone 853 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: else does, but they won't invite me. And that's why 854 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 2: fun because they don't I'm not a chosen one. They 855 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: need me to have forgotten because they don't want to 856 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: promote a pretentious brat. 857 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: They want to promote true love. 858 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 2: And this was interesting because I asked one girl from 859 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: another season who is in a successful marriage, the one 860 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: that I was like, I think that their marriage would 861 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: actually work, and I was telling her about my experience, 862 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: and I was distraught and she was like, me and 863 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: my husband went through the same thing. And I'm like, really, 864 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 2: because you guys seem so happy. I thought you both 865 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: got great edits. And she's like, on a show like this, 866 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 2: they need the guy to look good no matter what 867 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: they do wrong. And I was like why, and she's like, 868 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: because it's predominantly watched by women. Women want hope. How 869 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: do they get hope? Look at this great guy. They're 870 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: gonna make them look so great, and they need for 871 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: them to look great. They need to make the woman 872 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 2: not look so great, to make them look chivalrous, like 873 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: would love someone through anything. Love is blind like that, 874 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: And that for me was eye opening and kind of 875 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 2: helped me understand a little bit more like why did 876 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: they treat me this way? Why am I made to 877 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: look this way? When I feel like my experience was 878 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: the opposite. 879 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I think it's the difference, Like 880 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: you might not be manipulars and strategic enough to navigate 881 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: that experience. You might be a person who went in 882 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: purely like this is gonna be a fun experience. And 883 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: I think we're all let's put it this way. When 884 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: I interviuted for the first time for the Apprentice. This 885 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the Celebrity Apprentice. This was the Mark Burnett normal Apprentice, 886 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: like they had had like Bill Ransick, and like it 887 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: was the Trump Apprentice, and then they had one season 888 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: for Martha Stewart. The first season when I went to 889 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: get sequestered for a week in Santa Monica and spent money, 890 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: I didn't have to like charge an outfit to be 891 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: to teach them how smart I am. And I'm I'm smart, 892 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: and I'm a business person and I'm this, and I'm that, 893 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm a go getter. Because I thought I was interviewing 894 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: for a real job. I thought it was like this 895 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: was a real job, and I was like, that's how 896 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: I approached it. I was so naive. I was young. 897 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you're young, and you were young when you 898 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: started this. I'm I could be I could almost. I 899 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: could be your mother. No, Bethany, I'm thirty. I could. Well, 900 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: i'm fifty three, I could. I couldn't exactly almost. Let's 901 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: say almost. I'm much older than you. Okay, what I'm 902 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: saying is when I went on too that experience, I 903 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: was in my early thirties and like, I am a 904 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: smart person. I've always been smart. I really thought I 905 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: was going there to get this job, like I wanted 906 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: the job. I needed this job. I was broke, I 907 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: wanted the job. Okay, I went to the end that 908 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: first time, and then I was in first alternate. Now, 909 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: like you know me, like I have the most charismatic personality, 910 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: No one's got better one liners, et cetera, Like for 911 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: arguments sake, How they couldn't cast me as the first 912 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: person would be shocking to everyone. But the way I 913 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: approached that was like it was a real thing. By 914 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: the second time, I got sequestered to go back, which 915 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: because I kept in touch with them and pursued them. 916 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: I remember the clinching moment. Mark Burnett was in the 917 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: room and he said, why should you be here and 918 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: she shouldn't, And I said, because she's worried, because she 919 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: had the balls to wear a fake Mark Jacob's bag 920 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: to this interview. Now, that was like disruptive and it 921 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: was personality based. Had nothing to do with how good 922 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: at business I am, and they didn't give a shit. 923 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't think of how good at business I was, 924 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: And I believe that that's why I was, like this 925 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: bitch just said that to this bitch. That's probably why 926 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: I was cast, and it happened to me with Shark Tank. Now, 927 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: with Shark Tank, I was going in there and the 928 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: powers at b were calling me in and again I 929 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: was like, this is Shark Tank. This is like another level. 930 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: This is serious, this is serious business. Oh my god, 931 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: it's intimidating. It's Mark Cuban, it's this one, it's that one. 932 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: I go in there and I will leave this particular 933 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: person nameless, but they're trying to like intimidate me, and 934 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: they're talking about how the show is so real and 935 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: it's a real business show and like these entrepreneurs, it's like, really, 936 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: they're really you know, Mark Cuban's really smart and Kevin 937 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: O'Leary is really smart. And I had already been on 938 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: the cover of Forbes magazine. I had turned the fastest 939 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: growing lik A brand in history in eighteen months. I 940 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: had been the breakout star and done what no one 941 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: had ever done at House. So I have nor will 942 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: ever do on reality TV. Okay, because the Kardashians had 943 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: my same agent and they followed my model of integrating 944 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: products into the show because of me, and because we 945 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: have the same agent, that I did that much. I 946 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: love you, okay, But that's the facts. I've never said 947 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: this before. That is the fact. Kim Kardashian said she 948 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: didn't drink until I did my deal with this through 949 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: this agent, and then she did a Madori deal. So 950 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. No one cares. No, I've not touched 951 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: what they've done. They're incredible, and that's neither here nor there. 952 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: But I'm now in with Shark Tank and they're like 953 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: sort of trying to like dare me not to do 954 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: it and like tell me how hard it is. So 955 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: I leave and I call top ten most powerful people 956 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry that someone I know very well. 957 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: I won't name him either, And I leave and I 958 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: call him. I go, Hi, like, this is what they 959 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: just said to me as Shark Tank, Like they were like, no, 960 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: it's real business and this and that, and I said 961 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: what and he goes, it's a fucking TV show, Bethany. 962 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: It's a fucking TV show, that's what it is like. 963 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: And I've been on it and it's interesting and I 964 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: can go ahead to head with Mark and I love 965 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: him and Kevin, et cetera. It is a fucking TV show. 966 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: Number one. So you were on a fucking TV show. 967 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: It's not a real dating experience. It's not really like 968 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: you probably just weren't like this like shark coming in 969 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: and navigating it as an entertainment vehicle, and you were 970 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: having an experience in going through the dating, you know, experiment. 971 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: That's what I think. So I think that they're not 972 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: like proactively saying we're going to edit this person this way. 973 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: It's just like someone could nail it in two seconds 974 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: on a first date, and like someone else could not 975 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: nail it, and when the other person walks away from 976 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: that date, they're going to tell somebody else like it 977 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: went like this. They just crystallized whatever they saw down 978 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: to something so minuscule, and that's what they throw up. 979 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,959 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if it reflects who you really 980 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: are as a person. It doesn't matter. It's what's going 981 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: to land the puzzle. No, and I have moved past it. 982 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: It was very hard to get pasted at first, especially 983 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: when it's involving my family. That part was rough because 984 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: I can take a beating. It's my responsibility. I signed 985 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: up for this. But then when it's tying like the 986 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: assumption of how my family works how my family is. 987 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: That was hard to get through, but it has taken 988 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: a turn where I'm putting in the work to do 989 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: my own thing, create my own brand. And for the 990 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: first time ever, I got recognized at Target from a 991 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: lady that was like, oh my god, you're the one 992 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 2: that does these target reels and I'm like I could 993 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 2: just cry, Like. 994 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 1: Finally, I'm trying to get away from that a rent. 995 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to do a rint? 996 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I am on like overcharged efforts to just 997 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: put out the content. This is what I love to do, 998 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 2: and with time, I'm like, that's what I want people 999 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: to know me. 1000 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: I think you're overthinking it. No one cares. Oh, I 1001 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: swear to god, it's just fodder. It's think No, it's 1002 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: it's fodder that like literally everybody thinks I'm just the 1003 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: toughest bitch who's gonna just slice and dice everyone. That's 1004 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: what I did in that environment with those people that 1005 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm not that I don't associate with normally. That's what 1006 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: was going on in that workplace. That doesn't reflect who 1007 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: I am. That's one aspect and now I do all 1008 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: these other things that are different aspects. But people still 1009 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: always remember me as that. But it's such a small 1010 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: group of people, and most people in the world don't 1011 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: even know about that show, and most people don't even 1012 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: know about this. From Love Is of Mine, you can 1013 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: reinvent yourself in all these other spaces and use that 1014 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: just when you need it. Yeah, and no one's gonna care. 1015 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: Like people love to love, people love to hate. It's 1016 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: just fodder. It's like the news cycle. Yeah, no, for sure, 1017 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: I definitely think you're overthinking it, you know what I mean? Shot, Yeah, 1018 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: I think you're over And also like now your new identity, 1019 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure, which is annoying to everyone, is just that 1020 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: like you're the one who came out of the closet 1021 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: and now you're gay. That's like God. 1022 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 2: Well, then it comes down to like why would you 1023 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: be on something to marry a man? And that is 1024 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: just to see how naive people are or just dumb. 1025 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, did you really just asla or did you 1026 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: really just say that? Like come on, but you can't 1027 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: cut that's the Gabby Windy story too, and you can't 1028 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: combat that like you're allowed to be a living, breathing 1029 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: person that changes, evolves, you know, people still want to 1030 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: peg me the things I said ten years ago on 1031 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: television steeple people sti't want to pig peg Kim Kardashian 1032 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: into her sex tape. I think she's done. If you 1033 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: think since, oh my god, that's crazy. Paras Alton is, 1034 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, global entrepreneur. But it's hard to do the rints. 1035 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: You got to reinvent, you gotta rinse, and you gotta 1036 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: really stay far away from it and really try to 1037 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: sanitize it. But most people don't even know about it. Yeah, 1038 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's an experience. That's just my that's my 1039 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: take based on this whole thing. No, for sure, it's 1040 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: gone better. Things are fine, things are well, and anyone 1041 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: that now goes into it after all of the reckoning 1042 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 1: and all this stuff has to really know anything can happen. 1043 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: I do think that it's kind of changing. 1044 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: Like any reality TV show, the first few seasons are 1045 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: very naive. No one knows what's going to come out 1046 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: of it. It's an experience. But then when you see 1047 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: kind of what comes with certain people after a show 1048 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 2: that everyone wants to jump on that bandwagon, not realizing 1049 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 2: like that's such a small percentage of people to get 1050 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: anything out of it, and then once you're done, you're done. 1051 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: There's not a He's in another season for you. It's 1052 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 2: just what do you have to fall back on that's 1053 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 2: real outside of this little blip. 1054 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want you to present as if it's 1055 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: real and act as if it's real when it really 1056 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: isn't real. Yeah, you know. I mean it feels real 1057 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: in the moment because what you're saying is real, what 1058 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: you're doing is real, the interaction is real, but the 1059 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: circumstances are real. I don't think we ever realize, like 1060 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: how much you're gonna be If I'm thrown starving in 1061 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: the mountains with no food for four days, I'm going 1062 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: to act differently than if I'm. 1063 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: Like a thousand percent what it is. And it's interesting 1064 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: that production and people that work on set when you're 1065 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: hungry or exhausted or wanting to just be done with it, 1066 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 2: it's always this is an experiment. 1067 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: This is an experiment. But if you fall in love 1068 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: and get married, no, it's real. It's real. This is 1069 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: not an experience. This is exactly exactly That's what I'm saying. 1070 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: It's under the most it's not real to have two 1071 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: p people on the Bachelor that come from very poor 1072 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: neighborhoods and that are lower or middle class to then 1073 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: be going to Thailand and the peaks of fucking Greece 1074 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: and having you know, ten fifteen thousand dollars hotel suites 1075 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: and fantasies, and then they got to go. Now you're 1076 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: going back to where you used to live, and your 1077 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: your relationship is going to be the same. Like you 1078 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: didn't deal with money, you didn't deal with sex, you 1079 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: didn't talk about politics, you didn't talk about religion, you 1080 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: didn't talk about anything that goes on in real life. 1081 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 2: And I've never understood, and I've never really watched the 1082 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: Bachelor or Bachelorette just because it gives me anxiety to 1083 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 2: think if I was in that position as a woman 1084 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: signing myself up with however many twenty other women to 1085 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 2: go through that to maybe be picked. I just feel 1086 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 2: like that's so belittling to yourself, Like. 1087 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: Just assume now and it's getting desperate, Yeah, desperate begging. 1088 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: You're like a beggar at a buffet. 1089 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 2: And nocause women that are beautiful and amazing, But like 1090 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: for me, it would drive me nuts. I feel like 1091 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 2: I would second guess myself and what I was worth. 1092 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 2: When I'm compared to all these other people and letting 1093 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 2: this guy every day choose me or not choose me, 1094 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: Why would I ever sign up for that? 1095 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: By the way, exactly, you're the prize, but people's that 1096 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be told that we're the prize. I'm the prize, 1097 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm worthy, okay, but I'm a beggar. I'm desperate. Let 1098 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: me go get his time. I need a minute him. 1099 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: Let me take him to the corner and take him 1100 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: to that. I would never do that on. 1101 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: My really, because he's so animalistic, like survival, and. 1102 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: It brings out the worst in women, what women want 1103 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: to be desperate and like begging. It's already like that 1104 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: in society to begin with that the men get to choose. 1105 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: So if we think about it, that show really triples 1106 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: down on the degradation of women because now you're like 1107 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: begging and gonna go, you know, set yourself on fire. 1108 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: So he notices you on the left, it goes over 1109 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: to the corner, Oh my god. You know, of course 1110 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 1: people are having sex with them every single time. They're 1111 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: trying to get attention, and I maybe I can give 1112 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: the bachelor a better blowjob and he'll remember me. I mean, 1113 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: it's giving desperate. 1114 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: Or maybe they'll do that when they normally wouldn't just 1115 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 2: because everyone else is then I'm going to get if 1116 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't, it's wild. 1117 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. So all of this is to say that we 1118 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: live in a toxic society and reality TV has not 1119 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 1: done probably anything good for most Do you think that 1120 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: I've had thoughts about this. 1121 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's anything that can be done 1122 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 2: to put people in more of a place like it 1123 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 2: was back in the old days with dating, with technology 1124 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 2: and apps and everything that's out because remember back in 1125 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 2: the day, how your grandparents or parents meet. It's in 1126 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 2: passing and they don't have a phone, they don't have 1127 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 2: social media, and the only way you'll ever see them 1128 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 2: again is here's my number or what's your address. 1129 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: I want to pick you up for something. You don't 1130 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 1: take people for granted. But like I think you find 1131 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: I think you find a way in this modern age 1132 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: of technology to navigate that and use some of it 1133 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: for good. So like I have rules, I have rules 1134 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 1: that even if you're in a long distance relationship, which 1135 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: can be challenging, and I've done that, I don't text 1136 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: anything meaningful anything. It's too tempting. I was upset that 1137 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: you just did that, or I wish you did, Like, 1138 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: it's too tempting to do that. And it gives you 1139 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: a skill set of being patient and having to wait 1140 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: to be with someone and to connect with them and 1141 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: really talk about it and for it to be like 1142 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: I'll be there at eight thirty or miss you, or 1143 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: little anecdotal things, but to not really use text for that. 1144 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a really really big one that takes 1145 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: you back to we should not talk about anything serious 1146 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 1: unless we're face to face and talk about any feelings 1147 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I do think and also 1148 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of dating without like the phone, 1149 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: like put the phones down at meals. We're not taking pictures, 1150 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: even me, who does a lot of social media. If 1151 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm really into someone, I am not producing my film. 1152 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: I am not you know, taking pictures of food. I'm 1153 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: really trying to be present in the moment and doing 1154 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: more outdoor activities with other people, which I think is important, 1155 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: like going hiking and things like that. Like I was 1156 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: just a wait for the weekend in Vegas and it 1157 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: was an appearance and going out one night dancing, which 1158 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: was really fun. Like I was like, I want to 1159 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: go dancing. I know it sounds ridiculous, but like it 1160 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: felt a little old fashioned, Like I want to go dancing. 1161 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: I want to learn let's learn how to ballroom, let's 1162 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: learn how to like salstar or something. But I was like, 1163 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: I want to go dancing. But then because we're in Vegas, 1164 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: I was like, we got to go do like a 1165 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 1: hike or something. So trying to do like more of 1166 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: like that sort of stuff, like do more things that 1167 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 1: you have to really connect with another person versus the technology. 1168 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: But I think that you can't avoid the apps because 1169 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: we're not out in the same way as we used to. 1170 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: And it is efficient. Like if you are in a 1171 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: bar and you see fifty people and you zero in 1172 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: on one person, you might have to go out with 1173 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: them three times find at their psychopath. At least now 1174 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,439 Speaker 1: you can look up, like if they're crazy, if they're catfish, whatever, 1175 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: someone's crazy, well you can look up. I'm just saying that, 1176 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: you know, there's an efficiency too if someone's lying about 1177 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: their job or their real estate or something or something. 1178 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: One time there was a sex offender, right, That's what 1179 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying no, jeez, I don't know that I have, 1180 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: and I really don't want to know. It's like the 1181 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: first thing that'll pop up under their name if they are. 1182 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, And that is helpful to be 1183 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: a public person because if anything's coming out about someone, 1184 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: they're going to tell you. Yeah, you know so anyway, 1185 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: So that's what I think. I do think there are 1186 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: some good parts about it, but I think preserving the 1187 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 1: human connection is critical now like to try to not to. Yeah, 1188 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: so that's what I think. You're amazing. Thank you? So 1189 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: are you such a good discussion, like a really good, 1190 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: I feel like inside baseball discussion about this process reality 1191 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: TV and your experience. So you're in a healthy, happy relationship, yes, 1192 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: thank god finally, and your only homework is to do 1193 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: exactly what you really feel authentic and genuine doing in 1194 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: your career and then find out where the fish are 1195 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: and figure out what the brand and the line is. 1196 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 2: That's the work in progress. But thank you so much 1197 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 2: for taking the time to chat with me. I'm a 1198 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 2: huge fan. I respect you so much. Not want to 1199 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: be like awkward fangirl, but I told all my friends 1200 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm meeting her and I was like shaking 1201 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 2: before coming on here. 1202 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, I'm so excited. Yeah, well I had 1203 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: a great time. You're great. I think you're so interesting. 1204 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: I the only thing I would say is set it 1205 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: and forget it, like rinse it. It doesn't matter. It 1206 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: only matters if you let it bother you. And I 1207 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: get that all the time. That's a work in progress too. 1208 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: I care too much or about put too much effort. 1209 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: Didn't even it didn't it's not even real. Yeah, it's 1210 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: not even real, Like it's not even. It's not even 1211 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: and your feelings are real, the experience it's not even real, 1212 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: no more than like me, when I used to have conversations, 1213 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: I used to think like this was all real. We 1214 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: were talking about this person just did that, and can 1215 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: you believe? None of it was real because it was 1216 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: based in a circumstance that I would never ever be in. 1217 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like that C section scar 1218 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: takes a while for like the numbness to go away, 1219 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: but it just does, and you're just like, wait, what 1220 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: it's like somebody used to know that show, and that 1221 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: experience should just be somebody used to know. Yeah, for sure, 1222 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 1: for sure. So nice to meet you. Yeah, you too.