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Speaker 2: This next guest is a person I worked very closely

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Speaker 2: time in WWF his aldu Montoya, but I think he

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Speaker 2: shines more with us. Good friend of mine. Everybody please

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Speaker 2: welcome Peg Blanco a jab justin crabble.

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Speaker 1: What's going on guys?

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Speaker 2: Anybody?

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Speaker 1: How are you tired? Running around like crazy? And finally what.

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Speaker 3: We got another lease shaving guy?

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Speaker 1: What are you?

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Speaker 3: And Russo? You guys like patting together to shave at

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Speaker 3: the same time.

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Speaker 1: I have a show November ninth, right, So I had

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Speaker 1: to clean this up because sometimes you know, I'm getting graves.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this way, it'll be grown in and

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Speaker 1: I'll be looking like a normal person soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm happy to see you.

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Speaker 1: Happy to see you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we just had Yeah, we were just talking to

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Speaker 2: Vince Russo. So do you want to you want to

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Speaker 2: just start with what you're doing with Vince now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do an aw review show usually every Friday.

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Speaker 1: We start off at like ten am and it's all

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Speaker 1: through Patreon and you know, we do like ten minutes

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Speaker 1: first ten minutes free on Twitch. So it's been a

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Speaker 1: really cool experience. I really dig working with him. He's

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Speaker 1: really easy. I actually I met Vince back in ninety

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Speaker 1: so we go back a long way, but I really

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Speaker 1: So he's a super cool dude, and I really I

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed doing it nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we were just talking a little bit. I

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Speaker 2: worked with him one time in TNA and he was

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Speaker 2: only time I ever got to meet him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Person, he's such a sweetheart, but.

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Speaker 1: It's a shamy, you know, he gets such a bad rap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were discussing that as well, you know, because just

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Speaker 1: recently we talked about on the show today a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Because his fans, you know, the people that subscribe to

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Speaker 1: his Patreon. I think he has like we just broke

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Speaker 1: five hundred, which is I guess good for what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And but a fan said something to Cody that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Vince was, you know, critiquing and criticizing some things on

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Speaker 1: don't look I really, guys, I do no negativity. I

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Speaker 1: It upsets me because a lot of this stuff is false.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, it's amazing that there's one here's one story,

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Speaker 1: and I'll get back to back on topic. I was

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Speaker 1: doing a show Wrestlmingia weekend, uh uh, one of Janella's guys,

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Speaker 1: I was dressing outside and as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: My so small build, we packed it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the start. But that's the thing. My whole

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Speaker 2: It was a stage and I only had to take

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Speaker 1: You know, my music kits. He's sitting there on the

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Speaker 1: You know? So I took I came him lightly, and

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Speaker 1: So what I did was I yelled get out of

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Speaker 1: But then those tonks get to go online and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: he was this, he was that, And it's real easy

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Speaker 1: the airline. There was never a flight even booked for

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Speaker 1: So then I have to have a buddy of mine

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Speaker 1: Western Union me one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: And I said no. I told those motherfuckers, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then and then when I exed him out of

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Speaker 1: what does it matter if I am or not? And

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Speaker 1: b you just screwed me royally, right, I can defend

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Speaker 1: myself because I think it's, you know, what's the point,

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Speaker 1: you know. And for everything good that's happening, it always

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's hard when it's all you know,

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Speaker 1: there's some other real positive things happening so that I

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Speaker 2: Don't, okay, you know, I don't know. We're not saying.

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Speaker 1: Which show is rich no, No, your confidence level sometimes dips,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you don't know if you could do

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Speaker 1: I mean, but whatever, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I feel the same way at this point, you know.

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Speaker 2: But if they book you, you will come.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I look at it exactly.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I asked you the other night if

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Speaker 2: an anybody in an uncomfortable position. But you've been up

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Speaker 2: I've seen. Yeah, and I never really got to hear

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Speaker 1: I mean the as far as my addiction and alcoholism

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Speaker 1: I was I was a full blown addict, and I

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, okay?

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Speaker 1: And I spent forty five days in jail because the

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Speaker 1: I'm doing programs now, you know, stuff you have to

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Speaker 1: It's all good now, you know, that's that's behind me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And how many days sober now?

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Speaker 1: Oh? God, December fourteenth?

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when I went, when I went to jail, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll do it to you, brother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super proud of you. Like I said, it happens.

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Speaker 2: Things happen. Things happen for a reason. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: you're going to come back stronger.

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Speaker 1: I believe so, I hope. I mean, I'm lucky. I'm

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Speaker 2: so no, no, I don't. I don't watch wrestling anymore.

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00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: I watched the first week of AW I watched the

432
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: first hour. Yeah, and I saw a little bit of

433
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: the girls match that night, but I never saw the

434
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: finish because I think my kids would come home from

435
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: school and I had to go get them or something,

436
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: but just then turn it back on, like I can't.

437
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: Watch w w E. Yeah, it's it's just too long.

438
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: It's too it's the same stuff. But but one the

439
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: one thing I do tell the thing I can say

440
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: about both products are good, two totally different styles, you know,

441
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: totally different styles.

442
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I get a lot of people, you know,

443
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: and you probably get the same thing I do. With

444
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: the network out there, we have such a new generation

445
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: of fans that are watching our stuff for the first time. Yes,

446
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: and it's twenty twenty five years old, and they're saying

447
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: how it holds up in the year twenty nineteen and

448
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: how creative it is. And then you go and tell

449
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: me it's the same stuff every single week. You know,

450
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: we never did that. We had we you know, there

451
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: was so much variety on our show, and yeah, it fresh,

452
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: you know.

453
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: It kept it fresh. And one thing Paul was really

454
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: good at was and you know a lot of the

455
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: best directors are just like that. He made the most

456
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: of what he had. He would find a spot outside

457
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: of a building to do a promo. He did those

458
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: pulp fiction vignettes like that stuff that's still not being

459
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: done today. It's not being utilized. Like one of the

460
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: biggest criticisms I have of AW is unless you followed

461
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: the elite, those guys from before, you're in, you're a

462
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: new fan tuning in, you really don't like you don't

463
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: know these guys are they you know, so they're having

464
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: a hard time where Paul would like, you know, everybody

465
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: would have their little stick and promos and not just

466
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: long winded in ring promos where you know, WW does

467
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: like I Talk, you talk and you know, just fun stuff.

468
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: And I think it holds up today. I'm amazed that

469
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: nobody's really tried to uh. I mean, people have tried

470
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: but to try to take some of those elements and

471
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: freshen them up to today because what we also did

472
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: was and we couldn't get away with it today because

473
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: the copyrights. But man, that music with the wrestling, you know,

474
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: and it was like it made it cool and the

475
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: buildings were on fire. It looked it was so entertaining

476
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: just from just that whole thing was just it was

477
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: just different. And if you have the money, like an

478
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: ad W or the w w W. You know, hell,

479
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: if me and Xpop got Uncle Cracker to give us

480
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: a song and they and they were paying for it

481
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: every time that we came out, they paid for it. Yeah,

482
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, why not do a little more

483
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: of that? I think music and wrestling for a long

484
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: time has gone together and it could really make your

485
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: show a little hipper. You know.

486
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: I would sit in the studio and be amazed by

487
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: Paul because he would use all the cool hip artists

488
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: of you know, nineteen ninety six, and we'd be like,

489
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: how are you getting away with it? Don't worry about it,

490
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: don't just relax, ton't worry. I'm just like, man, this

491
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: this is really cool. But God, if you ever get caught.

492
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: How are we not caught on television?

493
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know how we got away with

494
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: it on pay per view was if if it's on

495
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: in the background, if it's not if it's not plugged

496
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: into the feed, like the direct audio feed, and if

497
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: it's like in the like distant in the background, you

498
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: can get away with some of it. Not all of it,

499
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: but you could get away with some of it.

500
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: I did an indie show with Shane not long ago,

501
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: and I recorded it for YouTube and I got flagged

502
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: for The Perfect Strangers.

503
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.

504
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: Couldn't have it on on YouTube. I didn't get monetized.

505
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: They demonetized that video, and I was just like, great, Yeah,

506
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: I can't even put an entrance on YouTube. It's ridiculous.

507
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: Are you really kidding?

508
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: No, that's what it was because I saw that, you know,

509
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: there's a little dollar sign and it was had a

510
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: slash through it. Yeah, And I'm looking at the video

511
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: and I said, the only thing I can think of

512
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: ish Shane's music. And I think it may have been

513
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: Stevie or somebody I don't know who's music. And I said, damn,

514
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: they flagged me for that Perfect Strangers.

515
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Who's doing like who's watching all these videos.

516
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: If something in like it literal and this is all

517
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: above our heads, something in the interface that can read

518
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: the music, because I had it happened to me too.

519
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: I posted a full episode of Triple Threat on YouTube

520
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: and I literally have a karaoke version of Perfect Strangers

521
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: that got flagged and I was like, I didn't even

522
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: know what song it was, like, it's an instrumental karaoke version.

523
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: Come on, wow, I didn't know that.

524
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you watch w W now on the

525
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: on the network and they elevator music over all of

526
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: our entering.

527
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: The whole experience, it does it kills.

528
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: It really does sick. But I love the fact that

529
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: that there's a whole new generation stuff.

530
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking about this with somebody the other day.

531
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was. Who was that with

532
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh Tatanka. Uh didn't appearance with him, and I thought

533
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: you were with him too. I was just the same weekend.

534
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I believe it was the last weekend. I was with

535
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: him the last day on Sunday and Uh, I think

536
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: they're going to put ECW you into the Hall of Fame,

537
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: but as a faction, you know what I mean. I

538
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: think I think it will because a you're gonna run

539
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: out of players and be we really were he were

540
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: owned by w WE, so they can see that'll be

541
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: a promotional uh thing, and you can just have Hay

542
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: and go out there and bring out you know, two

543
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: or three of the E c W. You know't believe me,

544
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna have all of us out there

545
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: getting rings, but we should. Uh. But nonetheless, I think

546
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: that'll that'll be cool. It's nobody told me it's gonna happen,

547
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: but I think one of these days, sooner than later,

548
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: I think that's that's bound to happen.

549
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: You know, they will quietly do something like that. Like

550
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: there's a thing they do for the like the old

551
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: old timers, like the sixties seventies guy and even the

552
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: fifties and sixties guys that they just out of nowhere.

553
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: It's called the Legacy Wing. They just brought it out

554
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: of nowhere. Yeah, and they just pull guys out of

555
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: left field and they just say, oh, well, you're in

556
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: a Hall of fame.

557
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Now. It doesn't mean nothing to me because it's fake

558
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, it's it's so not

559
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: a real hall of fame. What I would personally like

560
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: is one of those legends contracts. I just want. I

561
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: just want an Aldo doll. It's the only thing I want.

562
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Because it was like some guy made this amazing, like

563
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: super super detailed. It looks like it would have been

564
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: a Mattel right out of the package. And I was like, wow,

565
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: I really And then I tweeted the picture and I

566
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: was like, let's start a little campaign because from what

567
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Zach Ryder was telling me, like, if you get to

568
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: the right people at Mattel, they will pitch you know,

569
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: wwe on it because you know, a lot of times

570
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: they're looking for rare figures. They're looking for you know,

571
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: how many Roman range are you going to sell? You know,

572
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: like a France scene Shane Douglas set would sell, you know,

573
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: or just you know what I mean, like like a

574
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: vintage or feud thing would sell. I think they're they

575
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: owned the property already, so I don't see why they

576
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: don't do that because after a while, you're you know,

577
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: you made the free birds.

578
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: Wow, if they made a shame figure, I would drop dead.

579
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: I just want I just want some of that fucking

580
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: matel money.

581
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think if they do include us in the

582
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I think it would be on Facebook

583
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Live and not even on the main show. I just

584
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: don't think they care enough about the c W to

585
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: showcase us. That's just my opinion. But you.

586
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: Do never Yeah, I never know because they're they're you know,

587
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: as long as Haymon's there, you never know.

588
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Anything can happen. But you you mentioned

589
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Alda Montoya, and I know on your Twitter you could

590
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: either you're cutting some messages as Aldo or you will

591
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: appear as him. So are you just yes? So are

592
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: you getting a lot of requests and done? Uh?

593
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Well, I can't say too much, but I'm not getting

594
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: I have not gotten any bookings yet from promo other

595
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: than appearances for all.

596
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Right, okay, so all right, so you're not have you

597
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: you're not working as him in the ring yet.

598
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Nobody's asked.

599
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: Nobody's asked, but it's out there.

600
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I just thought it would have been fun because like,

601
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 1: you know, why not, like why not? You know, so

602
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: just to know, you know, another opportunity kind of to

603
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: to get a booking, but not nobody's asked for it.

604
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean I have done a couple with the mask

605
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: autographs and believe me. The mask that I've got made

606
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: and I got all new gear made is actually way

607
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: better than the crap they made me.

608
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: So nice. So it's out there if you want to

609
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: book them.

610
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's out there. It's out there.

611
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Okay, if they want to book he was all though,

612
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: or if they want to book he was just incredible.

613
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: You'll do double duty if you have to do.

614
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever they want. I'm definitely a whore.

615
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm happy for you with your new

616
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: gig with Vince for for anything coming up that you

617
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: can't talk about. That's that's a positive thing. We're for you.

618
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: No, I mean you know, I'm excited. I will it'll

619
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: It'll be happening. So yes, in the next I want

620
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: to say it's so bad.

621
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: It's okay, you don't have to, but I can use

622
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: something's gonna be happening for Pja and lood Lord. Yeah.

623
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: I got a new job at Chile's starting in December,

624
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: so that no shame.

625
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: What's over? Uh? Okay? So where where can we find

626
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: you on social media? Plug whatever you want?

627
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: My Pro Wrestling Teaspro Wrestling Teas dot Com, Backslash just incredible.

628
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: I've got four new shirts out right now and Twitter

629
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: at PJ Poloco and Instagram at PJ Poloco and I

630
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: have a Facebook page but I barely go there, but

631
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: if you are interested in booking me, you can message

632
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: me there because I check my messages. So with vincesso, yeah,

633
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Vincerousso with Patreon, it's patreon dot com backslash russo t

634
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: w C, which is Truth with Consequences, And he's got

635
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of pay windows, like you know, if you

636
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: want to listen to our show for example, specifically it's

637
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: three dollars a month, you know. So he's got all

638
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: kinds of of packages, and he's got good stuff there too.

639
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: He just doesn't talk about wrestling as like album reviews

640
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: and all. He's all over the place with everything. So he's, uh,

641
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of content.

642
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Fine worthday time, awesome, awesome, Well, proud of you, very

643
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: proud of you.

644
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm happy everything's going good with you. And I yes,

645
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: actually I was talking about I was talking to my

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Speaker 1: wife about that, and we'll talk about that someday, but

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was. I was so happy.

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Speaker 1: I was just saying, I was like, I was so happy.

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Speaker 2: Now everybody's going to be like, what are they talking about?

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Speaker 2: You don't need to know.

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Speaker 1: It made me seriously deep inside. It made me like

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Speaker 1: really happy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad and I do love you and I

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Speaker 2: I hope everything worked out for you. I love Jill.

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Speaker 2: I hope everything is going well with her.

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Speaker 1: Everything is getting better.

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Speaker 2: God send her my love and I'll see you somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure see each other very soon. Guys, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me. And I really apologize because

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Speaker 1: like I'm running.

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Speaker 2: Like no, no one knows you were late.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, he's apologizing for being such an awesome guest. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys down the road, have a great one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Queen Extreme Extreme the Queen Extreme Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Queen Extreme Podcast. It's the Queen of

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Speaker 1: Extreme Bruny in the letter she is the womernifty Dreams

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Speaker 1: Legends on the Senior Francises podcast, What you Mean