1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Israel launching another round of attacks on several locations in Araun. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: President Trump republicly telling ABC QUO, I think it's been 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: excellent and there's more to come. Joining us now to 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: discuss is Danny Toon on, the Israeli Ambassador to the 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: United Nations Ambasadoric and Monic. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me journal. Thank you for. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Sharing some of your time with this because I'm sure 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: you've been exceptionally busy. Let's just talk about where things 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: stand right now. Is this operation ongoing and ultimately one 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: of the gals. 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: Whether the growth are very clear. 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: We want to be sure that they want will not 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: put the threat not only against but against the entire 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Western civilization. And specifically, we have two main goals to 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: eliminate the nuclear capabilities and to stop the production of 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: baddistic missiles and len me laborators at You know, it's 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: not only the nuclear weapons. 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: We all know about the you. 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: And you enrichment and about that they're getting very close 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: to put a bomb together, but to look at what 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: they're doing with the ballistic missiles. They want to they 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: wanted to be at the same level of the US 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: and Russia. In terms of the quantity and the technology 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: of the ballistic missiles, we couldn't allow it to happen. 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: We got intel about their intentions to create another attack 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: against Israel. You know, we all remember what happened on 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: October seventh, but this time they wanted to use thousands 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: of ballistic missiles and invade into it well with their proxies. 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: So it was a preemptive attack. 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: So we will continue until we will be sure that 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: we eliminated those two capabilities. 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: How share rank you right now? 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: Well, we will. 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Have to wait and see the result of the attack 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: of last night. It was a major attack. More than 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: two hundred aircraft participated in the attack, many targets, many 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: senior military officials were eliminated last night, and we will 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: continue until we know that one is in the point 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: that they cannot continue with their efforts. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: Including the IRGC General commander. Is there an intent for 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: regime changing around from Israel, Well. 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: That's not our goal. You know, we are concerned about 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: the threats to it. Well for the Iranian people, I 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: wish they would have a different regime. 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: You know, we saw what happened in i Onan. 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: The people are suffering there, that have no way hitting 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: the winter, no ac in the summer, that are suffering there. 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: But our goals is to eliminate the capabilities of A 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: one so they will not be able to threaten us. 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: And then might look at the map. We have no 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: border with A one. It takes us hours to fly 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: there in order to attack those facilities. But still they 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: spend billions of dollars to create threats against Israel. 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: This nuclear enrichment is deep into the mountains. How long 56 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: will that victory actually take? And it's called Rising Lion? 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: Why is that? 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, every time we pick a name when 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: we have a military operation, sometimes the computer is doing 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: it for us, so there is no real meaning for 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the world of the operation. But I would say that 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I A published recently that enough urvenium to create not 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: only one bomb, multiple bombs, So it's only it was 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: a matter of days to put it together. We decided 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: not to wait, not to take that risk. We believed 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the threat of the Iranian when they said that they're 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: going to use those ballistic missiles to destroy Israel. 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: We took it very seriously. 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: How much did the Israeli government brief the US. 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: Government so we talked with the US, but this decision 71 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: was decided in Jerusalem, and we took that decision independently, 72 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: not for the first time in the eighties. 73 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: And I want to remind you. 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: We attacked the nuclear actor in Iraq. We took the 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: decision by ourselves when we attacked the reactor in Syria. 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I think it will serve the US and other Western democracies, 77 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: but it was a decision that was made in Israel. 78 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: Do you think the United States will come to not 79 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: just Israeli defense, but potentially if you're needing help with 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: more attack if this continues for days and weeks. 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Well, since the day that was established, we never asked 82 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the US to fight for us. We know how to 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: fight and we know how to defeat our enemies. You know, 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: we have heard threats that Direnia there threatening the US, 85 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: targets that are threatening. 86 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: The allies of the US in your embassy, right. 87 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: So we take precautions in different places around the world. 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: We are aware over the threats, but we will continue 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: also in Israel. We have to be honest, you know, 90 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: in needwel today we are getting ready for serious attacks 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: coming from Iran. It will be very intense intense in neither. 92 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: In the next few days, we are preparing the population 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: in this operation. It's not only about the bravery of 94 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: the pilots, it's about the population in Israel. They will 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: have to follow the guidelines in order to avoid casualties. 96 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: Ambassadors, you know the United States is system themselves from 97 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: this in the last twenty four US and said they 98 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: weren't pound of the attack. What's not clear to us 99 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: is whether they assisted in the defense of Israel. 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: Did I, Well, you know we. 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: Have capabilities and we are Did they assist you when 102 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: they sent out drafts from a run to Israel? Did 103 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: you receive any help from partners outside of Israel? 104 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: Well, as far as I know that we were able 105 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: to deal with the ones by ourselves and in a way. 106 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: But we have to realize, you know, the threat is 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: not only against Israel. As I said earlier, Iran is 108 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: threatening the allies of the US in the Gulf. So 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: we have the capabilities. I'm not sure they have the 110 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: same capabilities. 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: Are you worried about an asymmetrical response from Iran? 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: Well, we took into consideration that there will be retaliation 113 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: and marine and. 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: Will be proportional. 115 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: Well, they know that we have capabilities as well, so 116 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: they will have to think, you know, twice before the 117 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: attackers and what they are doing. And I would say 118 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: that today we can reach every target in Iran. We 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: have the control in terms of our. 120 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: Pilot to reach every target. 121 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, we have the capability. We focused on 122 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: the goal earlier. I mentioned earlier the ballistic missile infrastructure 123 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: and the nuclear facilities. 124 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: How long will that take if you were to reach 125 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: every target. 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's not going to be a show operation, and 127 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: it will day, two weeks or months. 128 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't say months, but it can take days 129 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: or weeks. 130 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: How lonely this is round at the United Nations at 131 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: the moment. 132 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Well, I will let you know in a few minutes 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: when I go there, Jonathan, But it's gonna be it's 134 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna be tough for us. I want already called for 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: the Security Council to meet public. 136 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: Will happen this afternoon. 137 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I will tell my colleague that the 138 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: UN where were you in the last ten years when 139 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: I ran threatened these? Well where were you when the 140 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: same ballistic missions? 141 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: Where were you. 142 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: When they actually acquire the nuclear capabilities? So you know, 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: words will not stop Iran is. 144 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: Well will the international response Saudi Arabia calling it heines, 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 4: the Native Secretary General calling for de escalation, the UN 146 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: Secretary General calling for maximum or strain. Do you think 147 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 4: there is a diplomatic group when it comes to dealing 148 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: with this regime? 149 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think that you know already you have the 150 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: Diplomatic Act and the time for that will come. But 151 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: we thought that the diplomacy didn't convince Iran to change courts. 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, for decades they negotiated, they played the game. 153 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: The light we found we had the intel that they 154 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: are developing nuclear capabilities for military uses. 155 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: There's some analysis so that under the JCPOA they were restrained, 156 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: they were capped. They are not capped. Now when it 157 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: comes to enrichment. 158 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know, without the JCPOA, they were continuing and 159 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: what we only recently that you know, alongside the reactors 160 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: and the plan that was supervised by the international community, 161 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: they developed a military capability that they were hiding it 162 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: from the international community. So once we realized that going 163 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to that direction, we decided to stop that. 164 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Ambassador, we preciate your time this morning, thanks for making saying. 165 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you can have an exceptional pas ahead of yes, 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: so thank you sir. This is running Ambassador to the 167 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: UN janneton there and the latest attacks on the Round