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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Battery Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and today we are going to be

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Speaker 1: recapping The Woman Tell All, which very fun episode. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about it. We have a lot of back and

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Speaker 1: forth at the beginning, and then the end is very

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Speaker 1: much the Rachel Joey show. Their relationship was very serious.

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Speaker 1: She was the third woman to go home, so that

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Speaker 1: relationship is always a little more. There's more depth to

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Speaker 1: that relationship, I feel like. And then we are going

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Speaker 1: to later in the week, we're going to have we

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Speaker 1: interview a bunch of the women at the tell All

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Speaker 1: because we were watching it live, which was so much fun.

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Speaker 1: And then we are going to have an interview with Rachel.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that and talking to her

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Speaker 1: and seeing just seeing what else we can learn about her.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure she has a much bigger story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw some of her conversation with Joey at

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Speaker 2: the telll All, but just getting more in depth into

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Speaker 2: her time on the show, as well as the breakup

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Speaker 2: and what it was like seeing Joey again. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to hear from some of the ladies like

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Speaker 2: Maria and Jen and Joey himself that first interviews for you,

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Speaker 2: and then be sure to tune into the racial one

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, so let's get into it, shall we.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it all right? So we are at the

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Speaker 1: Woman to All Jesse is on the stage. Well, first,

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Speaker 1: first we see Joey and Jesse going to like sorority

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Speaker 1: houses and they're talking to the fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do like a little crash the watch parties tour,

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Speaker 2: which honestly.

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Speaker 1: You want to do is what you told me while

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Speaker 1: we were watching well.

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Speaker 2: The first Like, sometimes when I see those, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that seems like really stressful or overwhelming, which I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it is, but like it's just also so fun, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like they're going to these big

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Speaker 2: house parties. Everyone there is so excited, they're fans of

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Speaker 2: the show. They're drinking, they're having a good time, they're

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Speaker 2: so happy to see Joey.

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Speaker 3: Like it just looks like good vibes, good energy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: riding around a party bus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you're like you're so used to micing

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Speaker 1: up and the cameras in front of you and you're

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Speaker 1: having like serious conversaious conversations and you and your you're

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Speaker 1: on camera, so this is like we're gonna get miked up,

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Speaker 1: but we're literally going to party and it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: matter what happens, like just go have fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's gonna walk into these rooms. Everyone's gonna

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Speaker 2: scream with excitement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's just a little bit more lighthearted and relaxing and

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Speaker 2: just probably feels really exciting and nice to engage with

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Speaker 2: the people that have been supporting him all season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well maybe maybe next year for the Batcher they

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Speaker 1: or maybe for the Bachelorette this year they do it

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Speaker 1: with a lums and we could go because they did

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Speaker 1: that one year. Oh really, they did that one year.

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Speaker 1: I remember they asked me to do it and I

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Speaker 1: was on tour with uh Dancing, but they add but

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Speaker 1: a bunch of like a lum went to they did

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Speaker 3: Was it Colton season?

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Speaker 1: It was for Colton season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, well that's Oh they like went and

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Speaker 2: posted up at different watch partys.

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Speaker 3: That's so fun. Yeah, they should do that.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of nice too because he just like pops

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Speaker 2: I'm here, let's have a drink, let's chat on to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So so right away they talk about the

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Speaker 1: date card and Leah kind of gets well, the other

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Speaker 1: women don't like Leah, so it it already seems like

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Speaker 1: there's which was you did see this on the show,

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Speaker 1: which was kind of like Jess, Sidney, Leah. But it

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Speaker 1: did seem like they had more women on their side

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Speaker 1: when they were on the show. Yeah, but now at

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On the show, it seemed like it was the three

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Speaker 2: And a lot of the comments that were being made,

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Speaker 2: for us, because you didn't want us to feel like

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for us, it was for you, and all

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Speaker 2: the girls were basically accusing her of it being a

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Speaker 2: the term like Medina was like, you call yourself a

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Speaker 2: girl's girl, but you're not basically is what she was insinuating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but all like also to back up Leyah with this,

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Speaker 2: The term girls girl has just gotten like so twisted.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, and I feel like everyone as a

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Speaker 2: different definition of what it means to be a girl's girl.

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Speaker 2: But it does sound like it was something that Leah

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Speaker 2: was calling herself.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: It is. So it's like when you put that on

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Speaker 2: yourself and the other girls feel like, not only are

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Speaker 2: you like not living up to it, you have like

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Speaker 2: some twisted intentions like that's gonna get thrown back in

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Speaker 2: your face.

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Speaker 1: Well when she did it, when she did it, immediately,

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Speaker 1: I was like, that is so like the way she

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Speaker 3: Lying anyway she presented what.

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Speaker 1: The way the way she went about burning the card, okay,

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Speaker 1: because it was like I'm a Martyr. I'm doing this

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Speaker 1: for the sake of the house. Yeah, but in reality,

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Speaker 1: like everyone watching it new like this, that is the

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Speaker 1: only play because if you if you take the card

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Speaker 1: and you use it, you're stealing a date from somebody

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Speaker 1: who the bachelor wants to go on a date with,

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Speaker 1: and you're stepping in and he may not want to

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Speaker 1: go out with you. So that's just going to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you on that. But I

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Speaker 2: who would have kept the card, and like, so many

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Speaker 2: of them raised their hand. But also what was interesting

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Speaker 2: raising their hands, you know what I mean. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I agree, I think throwing the card in the fire

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Speaker 2: I feel like you owe me an apology, and Medina

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Speaker 2: kind of gets into her journey on the show a

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Speaker 2: little bit more later. But you know, we did see

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Speaker 2: that controversy with Leah and her where Leah basically pulls

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Speaker 3: So I was glad that they kind of went.

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Speaker 2: Head to head a little bit over that, because it

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Speaker 2: felt a little unfinished on the show. It didn't actually

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Speaker 2: feel finished after the woman tell all either, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just glad it was addressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like Leah, like who she what she

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Speaker 2: And you think she got kind of like caught up

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Speaker 2: actually is and how.

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Speaker 1: She yeah, And I think she yeah, And I think

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Speaker 3: Said was I honestly was shocked.

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, you're kind of a controversial person,

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Speaker 2: apparently in this house exactly.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to get gas lit, which

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Speaker 1: I don't believe she even used that correctly, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think she used it because like she was

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Speaker 2: saying that Maria her and Sydney weroclaimer. Maria told her

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Speaker 2: that was me that said that, which was honestly hilarious

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Speaker 2: and much and it makes.

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Speaker 1: Sense that Lauren would say shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely sounds like something she would say. And

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Speaker 2: I think Lea's point to being gaslet was like, I

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Speaker 2: I think she really believes. I don't know what's true

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Speaker 2: But I think Maria believes, to her core I did

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Speaker 2: both believe their truth on Yeah, I agree, I just

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Speaker 1: You know, like, well, here's the thing. Shut the fuck

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Speaker 1: up could have been said multiple fucking times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by multiple people.

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Speaker 1: I here's here, Like it's obviously it's easy, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. But what

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Speaker 1: what it's easier, you know, it's easier to say after

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Speaker 1: after we've watched it. But the truth is Sydney and

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Speaker 1: Leah and Jess should have or not Jess really, but

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Speaker 1: Sidney and Leah should should have just not involved themselves

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Speaker 1: if they had a problem with Maria, then you have

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Speaker 1: that argument. But because how they went about it, which

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Speaker 1: made everything a clusterfuck and there was just no need

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Speaker 1: for it. So like for future people going on the show,

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Speaker 1: if you don't like someone, then just start your own

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Speaker 1: beef with them, don't jump onto somebody else's because when

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Speaker 1: that person you know dies that fuse out, you're fucked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think that Medina was kind of the gateway for

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Speaker 2: Sidney and Leah like into the dramas confrontation with Maria.

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Speaker 2: Like Medina kind of gets into this in the interview

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Speaker 2: that we had with her if you listen to it

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Speaker 2: later this week, but she kind of explains that she

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Speaker 2: felt like she was the pawn, like they were using

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Speaker 2: what Maria had said about her and her age as

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Speaker 2: an excuse to pick a.

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Speaker 1: Fight with her, which does seem true.

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Speaker 3: Which seems true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, if you guys have your own

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Speaker 2: problems with Maria, you know, have your problems with Maria,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, but like, don't use something with involving me

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Speaker 2: to get to her. Which we can actually get into

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Speaker 2: Midna now, because that's kind of the next topic. She

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kept trying to basically say that Maria,

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Speaker 3: She was claiming that she said to zip it and.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And Jess is basically saying, I'm not even trying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Maria said, all that context you're providing is.

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Speaker 1: It's just like he said, she said, and it's just

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and then we do see like Lexi kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is interesting because Lexi does seem to be

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's like literally so impossible at these reunions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I also like Jess could also have presented

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like she could have been like, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it's hard in those settings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but well you're at a woman tell all, like

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Speaker 1: you got to that's what you have to go prepared.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if you're gonna go pared like she really did.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna go at other other people on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm not a confrontational person.

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't think I would ever because I don't

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Speaker 1: Well, we had our mental I remember, like I was

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel fine. I have nothing to say,

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Speaker 1: not getting involved in the Colton Jordan drama of it

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Speaker 2: So it's always entertaining. Honestly, the beginning of this tella

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Speaker 1: So that we go to, uh, we have Lexia gets

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Speaker 1: the first hot seat. Yes, pretty yeah, it was. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty much just like a recount of

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Speaker 3: It was nice, it was good.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And then Jen gets a hot seat, who had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was quite emotional. Honestly, it is so hard

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Speaker 1: I got emotional when I was in the hot seat.

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Speaker 3: You got emotional.

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Speaker 1: I got a hot seat.

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Speaker 3: From your five second clip of you on the show.

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Speaker 1: I've never done this show and not have gotten a

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Joe's so cool.

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Speaker 3: I guess me too. We didn't have a reunion for

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Speaker 1: We would hot seat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got engaged.

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Speaker 2: And then Jen just kind of talks about her relationship

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Speaker 1: And then we have so then Maria gets a hot seat.

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Speaker 1: And then Maria and Sidney talk while Maria is in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she basically just says like I don't understand the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like that's always like that shows

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Speaker 2: let's put it in the past. But at some point

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, because like what are

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Speaker 2: Also saying, Maria, you are doing all these things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: She's like no, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was good, like let's hug it out,

443
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 3: let's put it to bad yep.

444
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Speaker 1: So then we okay, so now we cut to the

445
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: show and we find out what the card that Kelsey

446
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 1: left in Joey's hotel room is all about, which I

447
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: watched this. What are you laughing at?

448
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: I just I'm laughing at what you're laughing at.

449
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just kind of like you feel bad for Kelsey, just.

450
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: Like the way it all played out is unexpected, I

451
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: guess because Kelsey is the one that's been freaking out

452
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: for like three days.

453
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: She writes a note.

454
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: You can tell she's, like, you know, doing her best

455
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: to like reassure Joey but also looking for reassurance, and

456
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: Joey's eyes are filled with so much anger towards Kelsey.

457
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 3: I was like, WHOA, I was not expecting this.

458
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: You just knew Kelsey thought that was gonna go a

459
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: different yes way, And I almost feel like it might have.

460
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: Like I almost feel like she may have had different

461
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: intentions going into that. I think she might have. I

462
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 1: think when she initially wrote it, it was maybe like

463
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm considering, like I don't know if I could handle

464
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: this anymore. I think I think maybe. And I think

465
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: from the time of writing it to going back to

466
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: her room to them rethinking the situation, I think she

467
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: talked herself off the ledge and may have went in

468
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: there with a different tune, and then it just kind

469
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: of all just was like, oh, this is awkward.

470
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 3: Really, I think maybe I don't know.

471
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: To be honest, we will hopefully eventually have around this

472
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: podcast we can ask her more about this card because

473
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: it was a point of contention the last two weeks.

474
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: But I think she was like had her conversation with

475
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: Leslie sent her into a spiral. She's like like when

476
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: she was saying to him, like, you know, I do

477
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: want to meet your family, I'm not sure if I

478
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: like explicitly said that. Like I think she was like

479
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: thinking of all the things that she hadn't said to

480
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: him and was like, oh my god, like I wish

481
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: i'd said this. I wish I said this. And she's like,

482
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to use this time to like just tell

483
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: him all these things to make sure he knows. I

484
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: was like where I'm at and how I feel, so

485
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: like I didn't leave anything off the table. Whereas Joey,

486
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: I think, is like, oh my god, she's potentially going

487
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: to send herself home, and I think she starts talking

488
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: thinking that it's going to be like a good conversation

489
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: and he's going to be like happy to be hearing

490
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: these things from her and comforting her in her like anxiety.

491
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: And he was like, how fucking dare you write me

492
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: this card and sit your ass in front of me

493
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: and tell me you want to meet my family? You

494
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: scared the crap out of me.

495
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: Get out of my room.

496
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: If Joey was just the guy that just it just

497
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: seemed like he's a person that like, just like that moment,

498
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: like I didn't have my morning coffee yet, and you're

499
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: bringing me a bunch of shit I don't fucking need

500
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: right now, Like Levy, have buy coffee and let me

501
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: figure out my day and then bring me the mess

502
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: that you've created it by office.

503
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: Well, he explicitly said, he was like, I want to

504
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: hear her out, like I want to like have this

505
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: conversation to be there for her, But I have worked

506
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: myself up so much over what card could mean and

507
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: all the worst case scenarios of this card that I'm

508
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: so like, I feel like at some point he experienced

509
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 2: relief about what the card was about, but not in

510
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: that moment. In that moment, he was just like, look,

511
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: how dare you write this card like this? I have

512
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: been in an absolute panic for the last three hours

513
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: that you're going to send yourself home basically.

514
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, we do ask Joey about the card.

515
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: We talk about it in the interview, and when we

516
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: eventually get a chance to talk to Kelsey, we will

517
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: ask her.

518
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: About it as well.

519
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And then the last part of the episode,

520
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: like the main last part is Rachel comes out of

521
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: the show, she gets a hot seat, she's very emotional.

522
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see her get sent home at the Row ceremony.

523
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I feel for her. I actually

524
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: thank her and Joey. I know there's a lot of

525
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: people out there like it's giving me friend vibes. But

526
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm assuming there's a lot of their relationship that we

527
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: didn't And I actually think I said to you that

528
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: I actually think they're a good match.

529
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did say, you're like, I think that she

530
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: is really good for him and vice versa, Like I

531
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: think they're a good fit for each other.

532
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I think they.

533
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: I think they they they have good like complimentary qualities.

534
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: It seems like, Yeah, and she she was sad, and

535
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: I think that's always that's always rough, like watching your

536
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: breakup when it was a more serious one.

537
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she did say like her tears were a

538
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: mix of sad tears and happy tears for like what

539
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: they shared, which I think is nice.

540
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Nice way, and it's it's it's probably more difficult when like,

541
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: it's easier when the bachelor like fucks up and he's

542
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of a dick at the end, he selfish whatever

543
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: he does. It's it's easier to come off the show

544
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, I dodged the bullet,

545
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: where like Joey really was great the entire time. So

546
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like it's just all it is

547
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: is sad, and that's kind of what we see that

548
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: Joey comes out and Rachel talks about it's brought up

549
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: all the hate she's getting on social media, which is like,

550
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: it's I get it. Like we go on reality TV.

551
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: We have to expect that there's gonna be good comments

552
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: and bad comments.

553
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: That's part of the game totally.

554
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: And when everyone gets them both, some people more than others, obviously,

555
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: but everyone gets them both.

556
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone gets them. And the truth is, but when

557
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: you are somebody like like Rachel, who was involved in

558
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: zero drama, she didn't do anything wrong.

559
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: No, she's not a controversial character.

560
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: On this show, and people are going to come for

561
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: her for the way she looks and her background. It's

562
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: like those people are really shitty people.

563
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: Oh they're the worst.

564
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: And it's like it's actually to the point where it's

565
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: like somebody needs to tell those people to go fuck themselves,

566
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: because it truly is like you're just like, like you're

567
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: not Like it's one thing if you're a fan of

568
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: the show and you want to talk shit what I

569
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: don't agree with it, but like whatever, that's that's reality TV.

570
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: It's another thing to just like really just like be

571
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: a horrible person and racist and racist and calling out

572
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: somebody with the way they look and and like it's like,

573
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: are you fucking serious? Yeah, like it it's insane, And

574
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: I hate talking about it because I do feel like

575
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: it just adds fuel to the fire. Yeah, but it's

576
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: fucking ridiculous, like it is. And and those people are

577
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: the same people that if they saw you on the street,

578
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: they'll come up and ask they'll come up and ask

579
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Rachel for a photo and still do that. And and

580
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm not like, trust me, we have a lot of amazing,

581
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: amazing people that watch this show and that are that

582
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: are rate and people that come up to still come

583
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 1: up with us on the street and are very lovely,

584
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: And honestly, I've been lucky enough and you've been lucky

585
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: where we get a lot of just like wonderful comments

586
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: and things people say, really nice things. So there's so

587
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: many nice people, but I believe, still believe majority of

588
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: those majority are good.

589
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like you want to only highlight the

590
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: people that are, you know, supporting Laxi and connecting with

591
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: her story or like sending love to Joey or like

592
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, rooting for people that are getting like bullied

593
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: on the show. But like you don't want to give

594
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: your time and energy and attention to these people that

595
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: are like sending these horrific messages because they're there and

596
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: they've always kind of been there, and it's hard to

597
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: imagine that they're going to go anywhere as much as

598
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: we would like them too. But like at some point,

599
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: like you do also have to acknowledge them, because it

600
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: is a huge part of being part of this franchise,

601
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like it's like it's

602
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: frustrating when it's like I don't even want to give

603
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: these people any attention or the time of day or

604
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: like a single breath.

605
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: But it's like.

606
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: It is a reality of being someone on this show,

607
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: especially when you're a person of color and.

608
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Look at like and also like Rachel is, here's a

609
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: girl who is involved in zero drama. Right. The only

610
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: thing she did that could aggravate people is like she

611
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: got a little upset for literally two seconds at Maria

612
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: for calling out Joey right before the row ceremony, which

613
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: most people would have been upset about. That's like the

614
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: only thing. And not only that, she then gets her

615
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: heart broken, Yeah, opens up, which she has has not

616
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: wanted to do in forever, gets her heart broken, and

617
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: then on top of it, she has to go home,

618
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: and then people are going to trash who she is

619
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: is a person because they don't like the way she looks. Yeah,

620
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: is fucking insanity. Yeah, Like that's it's like it's like

621
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: why would I go on this? Like like like yeah,

622
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: like it is. It's hard because the people are not

623
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna want to go on the show.

624
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.

625
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: And the part that like really got me when she

626
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: was talking was when she was saying, it's so hard

627
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: for my family because they really enjoyed, like the experience

628
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: of the Hometown episode and they had such a wonderful

629
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: time watching it back, and then to go online and

630
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: see what people are saying about their daughter just taints

631
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: the entire experience, And like that is so true, Like

632
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: something that people don't think about all the time is

633
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: like her parents have to see that, her friends have

634
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: to see that, Like when there's comments about you online,

635
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: like your parents see that, and like that is it's

636
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: not just hard on like her, it's going to be

637
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: hard on her whole family, on her friends, on her community.

638
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: And it's like those small comments are like a fucking, hateful,

639
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: fucking racist, but just makes so much more of an

640
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: impact than people even realize. And like the extent of

641
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: the impact is not just on that one person, it's

642
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: on like everyone that loves that person as well and

643
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: looks like that person.

644
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's ridiculous, honestly, I mean it's terrible. Yeah, no,

645
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it is. It's it's actually just it's it's

646
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: just overall, it's just really shitty. And I hope we

647
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: could get to a place where, you know, that stops.

648
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's anytime soon, but yet it's

649
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: it's sad to see because there are so many, so

650
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: many like great people part of Chachel Nation. So yeah,

651
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: it sucks, but I feel for her and I actually

652
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to her.

653
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it was great that they gave

654
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: her the floor to speak on that. I think she

655
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: did a great job and we're going to be speaking

656
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: with her more in our interview with her later, so

657
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: we will pivot from Rachel and her journey on the

658
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: show to wrap up with the end, which is Joey

659
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: kind of touch base with some of the other women

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey, it's just like, I love you all and like,

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Speaker 1: this was great. I like it, And he's like, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things I don't see, so that's fun seeing.

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Speaker 1: And I bet that would be because I'm assuming like

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Speaker 1: there are a few women, especially at the beginning, who

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Speaker 1: he just was like may like probably like, oh you're

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Speaker 1: way different than I thought. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like as a contest on the show, watching

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Speaker 2: it back, you get to see his interactions with all

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Speaker 2: the other women one on one for the first time,

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Speaker 2: and it's the reverse for him, right, Like he gets

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Speaker 2: to see what's happening in the house. So it's like

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Speaker 2: half of the show is like new to everyone that

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Speaker 2: was there filming yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought Sidney what she said was nice

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Speaker 2: that you know, he's really genuine.

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Speaker 3: He reached out to her to check in on her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like and you feel Sidney got a

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Speaker 1: ton of hate too, and it's just like it's it's

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Speaker 1: different from the Rachel hate. Like the Rachel hates like,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, way worse, but like it's it's Sidney

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Speaker 1: also gets a lot of hate, and you people do

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Speaker 1: have to remember that, like, yeah, people do and say

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Speaker 1: crazy things on reality TV, and they do make mistakes

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Speaker 1: because we're all human. And it's like you are only

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Speaker 1: seeing a portion of who Sinny is, and you may

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Speaker 1: be seeing in a majority of that portion is her

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Speaker 1: maybe making a mistake. So it's like, fucking.

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Speaker 3: Let it go everyone, it's not that serious. Let it go.

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Speaker 2: If you want to say something mean, don't. But if

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Speaker 2: you're just like fun shit talking about the show, say'd

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Speaker 2: your mom saved your friend, you don't need to message them,

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Speaker 2: you don't need to put it online, you don't need

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Speaker 2: to come at it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that wraps the episode. Stay tuned for later this week. Again,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we have we are at the Women

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Speaker 1: tell Also we have those interviews coming up. We have

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Speaker 1: Maria Medina.

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Speaker 3: Jen Lexi, Joey yep.

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Speaker 1: And then and then the other interview will be dropping

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Speaker 1: will be the Rachel interview. So stay tuned. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for tuning in, We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And we have the finale coming up next week, so

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Speaker 2: be sure to tune in to see how Joey's journey

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Speaker 2: for love ends. We know it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: dramatic ending based on all of the teasers that we've seen,

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Speaker 2: so check it out. And then we're going to have

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Speaker 2: a recap in an interview dropping after that.

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Speaker 3: No, thank you, bye,