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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Scott, I'm Evan, Novie Williams and Michael Barr

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Speaker 1: And this is the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we

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Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: No scripts today, no scripts, no scrips. We gotta start.

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Speaker 1: Bill James, Red Sox Senior advisor. He says, all baseball

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Speaker 1: players are replaceable. Yeah. I'm not really sure where to

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the player is. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of the thinking is I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's Mookie Bets, I don't care if it's since certain

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Trout. It's how do I replace what

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Speaker 1: they give you with certain combinations of others. So and

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Speaker 1: that it was he just speaking sort of like the

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Speaker 1: analytically or the uproar was, Hey, players, beware, this is

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Speaker 1: what people like the new wave of baseball management thinks

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Speaker 1: of you. That you matter, You're you are literally replaceable

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Speaker 1: by anybody. Yeah. And for those out there who don't

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Speaker 1: know the name Bill James, he has, you know, for

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Speaker 1: He was kind of an outsider in baseball for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and then in the past fifteen years has

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Speaker 1: kind of become, you know, this clairvoyant voice about you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing where baseball was going long before other people did.

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Speaker 1: He's tremendously influential to the full quote, if all the

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Speaker 1: players retired tomorrow, we would replace them and the game

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Speaker 1: would go on. The players are not the game anymore

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Speaker 1: than the beer vendors are. Um. And yeah, the fact

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Speaker 1: that he works for an MLB team, the Boston Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: who were very quick to distance themselves. And however, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I believe and Scott, I assume you would agree with

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Speaker 1: me and Michael, you two that if we were to

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Speaker 1: really pull sports owners across the major sports, all of

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Speaker 1: them firmly believe that the game and the value of

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Speaker 1: their own teams brand are much bigger, more important, more

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Speaker 1: enduring than any individ jewel player. Yeah. The question I

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Speaker 1: have is, though, let's let's say we did wipe out

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Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball rosters and started a new would

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Speaker 1: the quality or the lack thereof be enough to have

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Speaker 1: a material impact on ratings? Attendants or not? Or people

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Speaker 1: are really rooting for the jerseys. Are you rooting for

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Speaker 1: the players in the jerseys? In baseball? Are you a

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Speaker 1: fan of just the Red Sox or you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of Mookie bets, which which it's more powerful than And

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Speaker 1: we know that we've had this discussion in college sports,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of It's the university, it's the colors,

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Speaker 1: it's the tradition, it's the stadium, it's the everything. Like

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Speaker 1: you could replace everybody on Alabama and everybody on Notre

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Speaker 1: another way to phrase your question, what do you think

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Speaker 1: does better as a business entity all the Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball teams with current rosters right now that lose the

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Speaker 1: red and blue jerseys. Or take all the players off

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Speaker 1: the rosters, sign replacement players, but keep it as the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox playing. See now, I gotta go back to something.

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Speaker 1: If you remember what happened in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: I want to stay back in the eighties where they

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, it was hard to watch. And but

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Speaker 1: What if you have I mean, these would be Triple

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Speaker 1: if you're you want to see the stars and and yes,

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Speaker 1: but you're looking more the art of the sport and

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Speaker 1: So you know, it depends on what you're going for.

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Speaker 1: So can so can you answer my question? Though? Which

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Speaker 1: Bill james comments come at a very sensitive time for

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Speaker 1: Last summer, you know, during free agency, players were livid

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Speaker 1: baseball is in this very weird moment and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people blame not Bill James specifically, but blame the

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Speaker 1: analytics movement for a dramatic kind of recasting of what

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Speaker 1: baseball players are worth. Meantime, I love love this new thing.

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