1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: What is up, Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Street Lawyer 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: for Friday, June the thirteenth, Friday the thirteenth. 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: Are you excited? Are you scared? 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Remember when that was a thing back when we were kids. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: We have a great podcast today because we have a 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: new guest. She's kind of a big deal in the 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: gambling space. I had never spoken to her before. We 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: were friends on the internet, but who isn't and Claudia 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 2: Bello Fato. She's from Boston. Let's not hold that against her. 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: But she did go to Syracuse, which is, you know, 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: very impressive. And I think you're just gonna like her story, 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: very interesting fast or what do I call a rising star? 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: I mean that's usually the kiss of death in sports 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: media if you get called a rising star. Within a 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: year or two, you get like a big head and 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: you're out of a job. But she's got some interesting 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: stuff that she brings to the table, and I think 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna like the interview. 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: I'll just jump right into it. 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: But also I do want to quickly drop a and 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: this is a reluctant best bet for Game four of 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: Pacers Thunder and guys, I'm rocking with the Pacers again. 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm reluctant to go money line, but I'm gonna do 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: it anyway. I think I saw the stat the Thunder 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: having lost back to back games in like four months, 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: some insane number. But if the Pacers want to win 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: the series, they got to do this again. We have 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: to assume right that the Thunder will be ready for 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: everything the Pacers did in Game three. So how do 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: the Pacers win again? I think you certainly have to 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: throw the kitchen sink at SGA. And there were some 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: amazing numbers courtesy of some substack called F five. 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: I mean it was. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: The advanced stats that now exist on the internet are crazy, 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: especially in the NBA. 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: How about this one in Game. 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Three, there were sixty six possessions where someone other than 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: SGA initial initiated the offense, meaning Nemhart. As soon as 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: the ball was getting inbounded, Nemhart was in SGA's jersey, 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: and SGA kind of deferred and was like, hey, case on, Caruso, 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: you bring it up. 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: Those sixty six possessions were the most in any game 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: during the regular season or playoffs for the thunder, and 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: they only scored zero point nine to nine points per 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: possession when someone other than SGA brought it up. When 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: SGA usually brings it up, they're at one point two 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: six points per possession. So offensively, they kind of sort 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: of fell off a cliff and you can't get into 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: your offense. SGA can't get going. Now here's the thing. 52 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Does he overcompensate, try to do too much and get 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: a forty piece and they still lose? Because I'll be honest, 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: the Pacers aren't gonna miss as many threes as they 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: did in Game three. I mean the entire postseason. They've 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: been hot from deep. I don't expect Caruso to get 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: another five assists and five steals, but you can. I'm sorry, 58 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: not Cruzo McConnell. Sorry to confuse my pesky white cards. Gosh, 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: that was bad, But I certainly believe that Indiana can 60 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: ride that home wave. And we still haven't seen an 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: explosive Siakham game. He hasn't really gone off Haliburton. 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: We'll see what if he shows up. 63 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: Will j Dubb kind of recover from all those misfree throws? 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Chet getting pushed around, admitting he wasn't really strong enough. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: I listen, I know it's a Friday night. The rating's 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: not gonna be good. 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: I don't care. I care about good basketball. 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: So I will take the six and I will take 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: Pacers money line smaller than I did in Game three. 70 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: But man, if Indiana goes up three to one, here's 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: the thing. I think that's their only way to win. 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 2: They're not gonna win the series of his two two 73 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: with two of the final three, and oka see that 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: being said. Even at three to one, I don't think 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: they're a lock. And frankly that could be a by 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: opportunity on OKC at plus money. But listen, nobody wants 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: to respect the Pacers. Did you guys know they have 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: not trailed in a series in the postseason? 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Milwaukee, Cleveland, and New York have not trailed in a 80 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: series yet. 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: That's found. 82 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: That's just unbelievable. 83 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: Anyways, all right, without further ado, let's get to our 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: guest gambling analysts who can do much more, Claudia Bello Fato. 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, Jason likes to think he knows everything when 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: I know what sports fans want. 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't he knows a guy. 89 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: Who does let's just say I know a guy who 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: knows a guy who knows another guy. 91 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. 92 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: Somebody brand New never spoken to her before, but she's 93 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: kind of a big deal in sports media, specifically gambling 94 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: from Boston. 95 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: Unfortunately. 96 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Claudia Bello Fato a great Italian name. 97 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Claudia, How you doing, I'm good, Jason. 98 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: You gotta stop with the Boston hate. Okay, I don't 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 4: like New York either, but I don't throw any I 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: can if I want to. 101 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: So Claudia was like, I could do the podcast. This 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: was the last week, and then she's like, oh wait, 103 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: I've got to do this David Ortiz event. She's like 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: a huge deal in the Boston area. I don't really 105 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: know much about your It's weird. Obviously you're on social media. 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: Everybody is, but like, there isn't a lot about you 107 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: out there. I just want to know what would what 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: like got you into sports media? 109 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: Like what's your origin story if you will with getting 110 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: to where you are today? 111 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: Yeah? 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: I mean to be honest, Jason, I grew up with 113 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: all girls in the house. I have a little brother, 114 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: but he came a while after us, and we grew 115 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: up playing sports, watching sports. My sisters were big tomboys, 116 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 4: and I always liked being on camera. There's videos of 117 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: me when I was way younger pretending to be a 118 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: news reporter, you know, on my dad's video camera. So 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 4: my mom had the idea. When I was applying to colleges. 120 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to become a nurse because I wanted to 121 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: help people and do something good for the world. And 122 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: now I report on sports for a living, but you know, 123 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: maybe it helps some people. But my mom said, I 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: think you'd be really good doing some sort of journalism. 125 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 4: So I applied to New House. I got into New House. 126 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: My parents said, you don't have a choice. I wanted 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: to go to you Miami. I was like, I want 128 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 4: to go somewhere where it's warm because I grew up 129 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: in New England and I hate the snow. When I 130 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: hate the cold. Got into New holl So I went 131 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: to school in upstate Central New York. Obviously an amazing 132 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: program there and such a good network and people who 133 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: I work with. Now you know Drew Carter, the voice 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: of the Celtics. Now, he was one of my best 135 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: friends in school. It was me him and then I 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: and Eagles son Noah, so US three were in the 137 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 4: class and then we all graduate. Noah's the voice of 138 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: the Clippers. Drew, you know, already on Sports Center a 139 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: few years and he's working the Celtics gig. And I 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: think my big question was how can I sort of 141 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: find my niche in this industry because everybody wants to 142 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 4: be a sideline reporter coming out of college, everybody wants 143 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: to be on ESPN Sports Center. So I figured I 144 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: had to get my feet wet. And the first gig 145 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: out of school was minor league baseball, Baby short Day, 146 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: you know, short season single A baseball and Upstate New 147 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 4: York and we were the worst team in baseball. But 148 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: I loved it still. You know long days. Was sweat 149 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: my butt off every single day, extra innings, and I realized, 150 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: if I still love this, it's probably my path. And 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: you know, long story short got into news because COVID 152 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: hit and I didn't have a choice. My first gig 153 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: was out in Gainesville. I was excited to cover the Gators. 154 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: COVID hit, so every day I was covering COVID deaths, 155 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: and you know, political election was around there, so it 156 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: was not what I wanted. I knew my passion was 157 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: back in sports, so gambling fell on my lap, fantasy 158 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: and gambling because everybody now the you know, the market 159 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: was super saturated. Everybody was looking for a sports gig 160 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: because sports had gone away, and I fell in love 161 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: with fantasy. I fell in love with gambling. I found 162 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: people online who knew what they were talking about, asked 163 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: them questions, and before you know it, I was working 164 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: for some small online shows and then Vegas calls me up. 165 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 4: MLB Network calls me up. I worked from LB Network 166 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: for four years. I moved up to Vegas, worked for 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: a sports book, and then Boston, where I've run, called 168 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: me up and said, hey, we want to launch a 169 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: betting show, and so I came. We launched the first 170 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: betting show in mass and now CPS Sports NBC Boston, 171 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: and sort of took a role from there. But everything, 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: you know, betting and fantasy wise was because I was. 173 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: I was in a weird situation, but I'm so glad 174 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: I took that up. 175 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: So was that Boston show with Sammy p Binny Chance, Yeah, 176 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: That's when I first saw Sorry, Yeah, so he was 177 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: doing stuff digitally at Fox and they kind of wrote 178 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: me in and that's how I met him. And then 179 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I'm doing stuff in Boston. And then 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: I watched and I was with it was with you 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: and him and I think one other person. 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: And I was just like wow. 183 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: So Boston, I'm assuming is a big gambling hub, you know, 184 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Northeast gambling. And I'm just curious, like how, like how 185 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: did that go at the beginning because people are I 186 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: don't want to use the word losory, but if you 187 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: give out picks on air, they how did you miss that? 188 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: You're an idiot? 189 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: You know, like how did that go? 190 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: Because that's different from news and like minor league baseball. 191 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely. You got to have thick skin. And 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: I'm grateful that I'm from. I think we could call 193 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: it all the East Coast, but Boston's in particular because 194 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: we call them massholes. People you are not nice even 195 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: if you get if you go five and two, they're 196 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: only going to talk about, you know, the two losses 197 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: that you had. And I think I just knew that 198 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 4: going into it. I'm really data driven and I make 199 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: sure that everything I say is backed up by facts, 200 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: and you know, I'll watch the game and I'll I'll 201 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: give my opinion on something, but if I can find 202 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: a number that supports it, I'm going to do that. 203 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: So I know, if somebody says, you know, how did 204 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: you miss that, I'm not pulling these picks out of 205 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: thin air. People. You know, I'm watching the games, I'm 206 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 4: watching the tabe, I'm looking at the numbers. So I 207 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: think it was just that mindset I had going into it. 208 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 4: That was a dream job for me to you know, 209 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: land ness in at the age that I did just 210 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: a few years into doing TV. So I was just 211 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: grateful for the opportunity. And you know, as I say, 212 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: put your head down it and push forward, and no, 213 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: the massholes are always going to be there. 214 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: So Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup 215 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports 216 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR 217 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: to listen live. 218 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Obviously, you got to be pretty smart in high school 219 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: to get into Syracuse. So I'm assuming when you say 220 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: analytically driven, like you've seen some of your competition quotes 221 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: in air quotes in the industry, right and like not 222 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: everybody's shall we say, you know, dat had driven and 223 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: went to a good school and is that smart? 224 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: Do you? 225 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: At what point are you starting to like see like, 226 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: are the girls friendly to you in this space? 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say in terms of being friendly to 228 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: each other, I think for the most part in my experience, 229 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: we are. We're all supportive. It is tough though sometimes 230 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: when you see it's the age of social media. I 231 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: don't really you know, blame the girls out there who 232 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: we're getting thousands of dollars through social media and all 233 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 4: this insane engagement because maybe they're you know, addressed a 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: certain way, or they started doing something that people like, 235 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: and you know, they're. 236 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: Just go ahead continue. 237 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to go to you. 238 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go We had one of those 239 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: on the show and you know, she explained it well, 240 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: and I she's. 241 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: Taking advantage of the market right like as you should 242 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: in my position, and I'm all, you know, I support 243 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 4: those women. I think that it's great, do your thing 244 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: if that's your brand. But my brand really has always 245 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: been data driven, and I'm very me. The way I'm 246 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: talking to you now, the way I talk to people 247 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: out at the bar we're talking about sports, That's how 248 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to be on TV. You know, and so 249 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: that's just my brand, and I think all the power 250 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: to them. But sure it's frustrating sometimes when you see 251 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: people get gigs over yours and and you think, like, man, 252 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: I feel like that would have been a better fit 253 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: for me. But that's just how this industry goes. You 254 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: know that, just as well as I do in anybody else. 255 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes maybe the high ups do know it's a better 256 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: fit for one person over the other. But again, I'll 257 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: never really change my brand. I get that push sometimes 258 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 4: from agents and managers. 259 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: Oh really, you should try this. 260 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: On social media, you should do this, And I'm like, 261 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: I really respect and appreciate your opinion, but I'm probably 262 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: just gonna keep doing what I do. 263 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did your friends and family say when you're like, oh, 264 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm on a show talking about sports gambling? 265 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: What are they like? What are you doing? 266 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Like? 267 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: My Italian uncles, one of my Italian uncles came up 268 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: with my grandmother's funeral actually, and he pulled out a 269 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: lot of cash and he goes, so will we betting tonight? Wow? 270 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: He's like, you know you got this from me, right? 271 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: I was like, I actually didn't really know where I 272 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: got it because my parents never a bet in their life. 273 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: But apparently my uncle did it pretty heapily, so he 274 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: loved it all. My exten family loved it. My parents 275 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: at first were definitely concerned if we just paid and thanks, 276 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: mom and dad, you paid for my whole college. Love 277 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: you for that. They paid how much money to send 278 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: you to the New House and now you're going to 279 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: do betting for a living. But I think once they 280 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: saw it grow and they saw me, you know, on Nessen, 281 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: the Red Sox and the Bruins covering these teams we 282 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: all grew up watching, they could tell their friends to 283 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: go watch me on TV. I think they understood why 284 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: I took that path. But dadnybody like New House won't 285 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: ask me to come speak on a panel, but the 286 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: last Drew and the last Noah because they're covering the 287 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: Celtics and the Clippers, And that's fine. But I do 288 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: get a lot of college students reaching out saying betting 289 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: seems like a really cool path to take if I 290 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 4: don't want to do traditional sports, and I'm so happy 291 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: to talk to them about that both. I've actually had 292 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: a lot of women, Yeah, I've had a lot of 293 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: women to reach out, and you know, I'm speaking on 294 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: a panel in Chicago in a few weeks to talk 295 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: about betting specific but just women in sports and sort 296 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 4: of my angle on it. And I try to take 297 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: those calls and talk to those women and girls they're young, 298 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 4: you know, as much as possible because it could be 299 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 4: a really daunting two men and women. I think industry 300 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: TV is but betting specific because it is really male 301 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: dominated it And a lot of people will still ask 302 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: me to the stay. I've been doing betting for what 303 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: six seven years? Like, so who feeds you all that information? 304 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: Really all the time, Jason, it's the worst. 305 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask what was the Vegas experience? 306 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Like everybody who's listening, I know, Hey, I can handle 307 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: three four days in Vegas a week, absolute max. 308 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: You said forty years. 309 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: So I've been doing betting for you? Oh yeah, basically 310 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: since I graduated because it was a year out I 311 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: started in it. Vegas was a short stint, but I 312 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: had never lived I had never even visited before it 313 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: moved out there. 314 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Wait, you never went to Vegas like in college or 315 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: twenty one or anything. 316 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, So I got the call and my 317 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: agent's like, hey, they want you out in Vegas and 318 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: I packed my stuff up in a week and I 319 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: just moved up to Vegas for the first time. Didn't 320 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: know anybody, nothing, and you know, I loved it. I 321 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: lived by the mountains and it's not like I was 322 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: on the strip. 323 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: Oh you were, what was it? 324 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that okay summer. That's a nice, nice area. 325 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: Someone's awesome. I mean it was hot as hell, but 326 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 4: I had a pool and stuff. But it's funny because 327 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: when you tell people you move to Vegas, they're assuming you're, 328 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: you know, living on the street. Yeah, but my studio 329 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: was in the wind Casino, so I'd walk in this 330 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: is my first ever experience on Vegas, and every morning 331 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: i'd walk in like eight am for my show and 332 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: people are still at the poker tables or maybe just 333 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: arrive at the poker tables, slugging back drinks. And I'm like, wow, 334 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: Vegas really is what Vegas looks like in the movies. 335 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: It's not. 336 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't a long time I was out there, but 337 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: I think it was enough for me. 338 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: So like, what happened? Yet? 339 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: They had you doing a show like talking NFL baseball 340 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: and all that fun stuff everything. 341 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think That's what's been really good for 342 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: me and betting is that I've been able to just 343 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: cover all of the sports. I always thought I wanted 344 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: to be a team reporter, but when I went out 345 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: in Vegas, they basically asked me obviously, you know, hockey 346 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: was big out there with the Knights, but UFC was 347 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: really big. So I dug into UFC pretty often with 348 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: them all of the main sports and little f one WNBA. 349 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: So really, yeah, with that show with the media, and 350 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: I think you're probably seeing this with a lot of 351 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: the sports book is sports books is. We knew it 352 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: was gonna consolidate at some point because everyone's trying to 353 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: copy each other and not everybody has the same reach. 354 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: So I saw that pretty early with wind bet the 355 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: company I was working for. They're like, hey, we have 356 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: the school studio, We're going to try these shows, and 357 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: we have all of these ideas, but it was so 358 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: many things going on at once, and I'm like, you 359 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: guys should probably focus on your app right like before 360 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: we go into pushing this and and I think that's 361 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: the problem I face everywhere. But yeah, so I guess 362 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: that was the first sort of daily I show, daily 363 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: show I had because I had been working for MLB 364 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: Network for a year or so, but that was, you know, 365 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: a few spots a week, so that was the first 366 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: time I was digging into everything. We had a lot 367 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: of cool guests come on the show, and it was 368 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: in Vegas. People could walk by it and listen and watch. 369 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: It was the Blue Wires Studio. 370 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, I remember, yeah, yeah it I've never 371 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: seen it, but let me Yeah. So, so it sounds 372 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: like they're They're not just saying, hey, NFL, NBA gambling, 373 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: we want you to do hockey with Belmont stakes. 374 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: We want you to and you were You're good with that? Huh. 375 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if it's because, you know, growing up, 376 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 4: I played I played basketball year round. I picked up 377 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: soccer because my friends played. It was terrible, but it 378 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: was a social thing for me. I picked up lacrosse 379 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: just because you know, A Graham was trying that. I 380 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: loved learning to play new sports, and then as I 381 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: got older, I just liked learning sports that people didn't 382 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 4: really know much about. And maybe that goes back to 383 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: me just wanting to help people. I don't know that's 384 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: what I tell myself, but I've found that's fun. You know. 385 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: I started working with this company next Bets over the 386 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 4: last few months, and they focused solely on you know, 387 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: the out of the box sports, so it's f one. 388 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 4: I did a lot of Supercross. I went to my 389 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: first supercross event. They do you know, the slapping the 390 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 4: pro slapping leagues. 391 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, hold on super Supercross is not motorcycles. 392 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's motocross motocross. 393 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so supercross is it's AMA Monster Energy Supercross. Basically, 394 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: it's like the Big One, but it's all under undermot cross. Yeah. 395 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 2: So what people are betting on? Guy in the slap fights? 396 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I actually haven't done that yet, but they 397 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: asked if I want. I'm like, yeah, sure, because I 398 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: like to learn. It's fun, right. 399 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: But so those are the sports though, where people could 400 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: take a dive easily because there's not that much They're 401 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: not getting paid that much. 402 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: Right Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I can't. 403 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: I can't believe you're betting on That's insane. I didn't 404 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: even know that was like a real sport. 405 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: Is that on TV? 406 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 407 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think so that's where there's Yeah. 408 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: There's money there though with betting. I mean that responsibly people, but. 409 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: You know, that Claudia. 410 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: The people betting on that are like total degenerates, like 411 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: you know, living in like a hoarders set up with 412 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: no money and they're betting on that deerator. No I'm not, 413 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: but those people are listening for you for those Yeah, no, no, 414 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: that's well. 415 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: I will say though, with the sports that not everybody's betting, 416 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: as you know, that's a softer market like the WNBA WNBA. Yeah, 417 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: I'm getting great lines on these player props, even on 418 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: the side sometimes because they're not betting it like. 419 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: This, Wait, are you betting WNBA nightly? 420 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: Not nightly? But when I go on CBS, They'll have 421 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: me come on it and give some plays and I'm like, yeah, sprinkle, 422 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: so I think I swept or I missed like one 423 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: the other week I gave out four or five plays 424 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: And it's not like I'm betting the w every day. 425 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: But again, it's a soft market. I'm capping it just 426 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: like I would with the NBA sports. I know. 427 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just know you're right, I mean that's what 428 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: people could find Soccer. You could find a bigger edge 429 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: there for sure. It's just not as sexy as Hey. 430 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Patriots, you know, in their wind 431 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: total or whatever. 432 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm. 433 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 4: Doing all that too. It's just I have you know, 434 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: I do lacrosse. I worked with PLL for two years 435 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: as well. So I don't know. It's fun because it's 436 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: been a challenge for me and I'm reaching different types 437 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: of audiences and then if somebody does need an expert, 438 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: you know, I dive into these things. It's not like 439 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: I'm just reading articles and picking stuff out. I'm trying 440 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: to really learn the sport. And I don't know, it's 441 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: been fun for me. Maybe I'm maybe I'm not helping 442 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: the degenerates out there. If they're vetting the power slap. 443 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: Competition, it's fuck creepy. 444 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: So obviously, you know, you got the loser guys in 445 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: the sewer who are gambling all the time and then 446 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: hate the fact that you and I are on TV 447 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: talking about gambling, so they come after me all the time. 448 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: I block them. I don't really care. 449 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: But Claudia, I know some women who have talked to 450 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: gambling and they've when these guys come after them, they 451 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: like kind of melt down a little bit because it's 452 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: it's a little tougher when a lot of people are 453 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: coming after you online. Like, I personally don't care. I've 454 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: got you know, family, None of this stuff bothers me. 455 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: But I know some women who have like struggled with it. 456 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: How are you handling all that stuff when these you 457 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: know goons come after you? 458 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. I when I had my show at 459 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: NSSEN and when I was with them Albean at work, 460 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: I had an Excel spread worksheets, so I would try 461 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: called my bets, I'd show you, you know, my unit 462 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: size and everything. So I was really transparent with it. 463 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 4: So if anybody ever called me out, you know, she's 464 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 4: not telling the truth or this or that. I'm like, hey, 465 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: go check my excels or at worksheet. I don't really 466 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: care what you think. This is what it is, right. 467 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: And when they do come at me for stupid little things, 468 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: thankfully I haven't had much you know, targeting my knowledge 469 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: or targeting if I know what I'm talking about or not. 470 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: They'll say something about my looks or just the fact 471 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: that I'm a woman in general, or that somebody's feeding 472 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: me all of this information because there's no way I 473 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: would know all of it. So in my mind I'm 474 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: just like, oh, thank you, like, oh, you think just 475 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 4: because I'm a you know, a girl, that I don't 476 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 4: know this, and you think I'm not smart enough to 477 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: know all the things that I know. So I try 478 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: to frame it that way. But like you said, you 479 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 4: have a family, you have all these things. I'm, you know, 480 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: a single twenty nine year old who was freelancing. So 481 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm waiting on all those gigs. So if I do 482 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: do a show and I go on social media and 483 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: somebody says something after, I feel like I did great 484 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 4: or maybe I didn't, and that's in my head and 485 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: I see somebody make a comment, then it definitely weighs 486 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: on me. 487 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I no, no for sure, yeah no, no, 488 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: you know, I think that's just part of the game. 489 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: But that's the reality. 490 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: Like we've had a lot of gambling people on your 491 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: Felika Adam Turnoff. 492 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know all these guys. Yeah, but ultimately 493 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: it comes down to. 494 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: Like you just not You got to not give a 495 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: shit when these guys come after you. The only difference is, 496 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, like I do know, you know, single people 497 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: go back to their house and then at night they're 498 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: just on their phone scrolling and all it is is 499 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: just a torrent of anger and and some people don't 500 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: handle that well. 501 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: So I'm guessing you're not. 502 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: Now, you obviously have a good Instagram, but are you 503 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: on social media a lot? 504 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: Like are you doing TikTok YouTube? While this crap? 505 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: You know? I again from agents and managers, I've gotten 506 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 4: a lot that I'm not active enough. And it's because Jason. 507 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 4: If I wasn't in this industry, I don't know if 508 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: I'd have any social media. I think it's such a distraction. 509 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: Like when I look at my hours when I have 510 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: to I have to be on my phone all day, 511 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: I shoot and I edit videos as in freelancing, So 512 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: I'm on my phone all day and I'll go over 513 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: and I'll scroll on Instagram, and all it is is 514 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: us looking at people who look as though they're doing 515 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 4: better than us, right, And I'll look at women in 516 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: my field and I'm like, damn, how did they get 517 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: that job? Or you know, I'm happy they got that job. 518 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: I wish I could have got that job. Or this 519 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: person's getting married, this person's pregnant. I'm still here, you know, freelancing, 520 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: doing shows in my house, and I think it just 521 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: forces comparison that we never. I've always had it. My 522 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: parents never had it and they were so happy growing up. 523 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: And I think because of my industry, it's really it's 524 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: unhealthy in my mind. So like I tried the TikTok 525 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: and then you don't get enough views and it doesn't 526 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: make sense because I have the followers, the views aren't there, 527 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: and then you have to try and nail down the algorithm, and. 528 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 3: It's like it's a lot of work. 529 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: Go outside, people like, go outside and experience the world. 530 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 4: And so I'll post and then I just get off, 531 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: Like I try not to scoll because it's just mind 532 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: numbing and usually don't feel great, right if you spend 533 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: a few you never feel good after scrolling on Instagram 534 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: or TikTok. 535 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: Ever, So what do you do? 536 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm busy. I'm busy. I started an app 537 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: with my sister, a fitness app actually, so I'm going 538 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: through the investor process right now. It's been five years 539 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: in the making. So as I've been trying to get 540 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: into the TV industry, I was trying to build that 541 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: up and we're really happy with it. But that's NonStop. 542 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: So as they say, you know, you're five to nine 543 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: after the nine to five, but our dev teams in Pakistan, 544 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: so really, I'm up at all hours doing that. I'm 545 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 4: a workout fiend, so I work out whenever I can. 546 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: I try to cook lots of friends. I've been going 547 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: NonStop for the last like three months. That's why telling 548 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: you we were supposed to do this, I'm like, sorry, 549 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: I'm in Toronto. Sorry I'm in New York. Sorry about 550 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: the works fun, but you know I'm young. I'm going 551 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 4: to do it now before I have a family and 552 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: hopefully land another full time gig. 553 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 554 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 555 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 556 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: listen live. 557 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 2: So I guess we'll fast forward to NFL since everybody 558 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: loves it first, I'll start. Oh, oh, we could start 559 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: with Belichick because he was a Patriots guy. I don't 560 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: know if you saw the story that all these morons. 561 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: As soon as the Jordan Hudson stuff came out, they 562 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: decided we're gonna bet the pay the tar Heels underwin 563 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: total just because this girl is a distraction. Any thoughts, 564 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: and again, I don't know the unc depth chart I've 565 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: seen the schedule, but we don't have lines for the 566 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: whole season, so I'm just curious your thoughts on the 567 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: Patriots and Belichick, sorry, the tar heels in Belichick. 568 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and just on the Belichick side of things. 569 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: And of course I've talked about this so much on 570 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: the Boston sports shows here, but it's so disappointing, and 571 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 4: they've said his family members are so sad to see that. 572 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: His legacy, of course is not being torn down by this, 573 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 4: but people keep saying his legacy is sort of being 574 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 4: tarnished because here he was like a god. And of 575 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 4: course there were some issues with the Brady contracts and 576 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: all that, but one of the greatest coaches of all time, 577 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 4: right if he went back to the NFL, could have 578 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: broken down Schules record. That's all we really talked about 579 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: when it came to Bill and then he went to 580 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: UNC and Okay, this is cool. It's a new chapter 581 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 4: for him. And when's the last time we've really heard 582 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 4: about anything. To your point about the UNC depth chart, 583 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: half of the people don't even know the quarterback, nobody 584 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: knows any of the receivers. All we've heard about is 585 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: his girlfriend Jordan Hudson, and I'm sure in his mind 586 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 4: that doesn't sit well with him either. So on the 587 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: football side of things, again, greatest coach of all time, 588 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: He's dealt with everything. Everybody keeps saying he has. He's 589 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: really going to go and sit on the couches and 590 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: recruit these players and do this and that. I don't 591 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: know if he's going to have to beg a lot 592 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: of players. Maybe the Jordan Hudson thing we'll off put 593 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 4: some people. I don't know about that. Everybody's goal is 594 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: to get to the NFL. I think he knows a 595 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: few people to get you there. I think he has 596 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: the skills and it's going to bring in the staff 597 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: to help players develop. And you know, if they go 598 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: to you and see I don't think they're going to 599 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: regret it. But on the Jordan Hudson side of things, yeah, 600 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 4: it's disappointing for me because I grew up with Belichick 601 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: and Brady and and Jordan Hudson's younger than me. I 602 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: actually saw her at a club, not that I go 603 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 4: to clubs, but I did see her at the club 604 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 4: a few months ago. Really, like with Belichick, no no, no, 605 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: Belchick wasn't there Belchick was there, that would be Yeah, 606 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: she looks so young though, Jason, Well, that's. 607 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: The thing, so she's your age basically twenty four. 608 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: I'm twenty nine. 609 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: Come on, I give you a similar if you if 610 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: people saw both of you, they wouldn't really know the 611 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: age difference. 612 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 613 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: It would be the equivalent of one of your friends 614 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: being like, hey, Claudia, I'm dating Bill Belichick. 615 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: That would be a little dad. 616 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: That would be well, her. 617 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: Dad, I'm sure you've read the stories is a little 618 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: bit different, which I think kind of I don't want 619 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: to say stuff because you know, like you know anyways, 620 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: but you know what I'm talking about, Like in Boston area, 621 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: it's weird. 622 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: But for me, I'm all in on the over I 623 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: think this. I think. 624 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: I mean again, you don't even need to know the 625 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: Jet start. 626 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: Look at the schedule. 627 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: I think they're going to be favored in like at 628 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: least nine games, and there's really other than a Clemson game, 629 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: which is bookended by bys, like they should be barring 630 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: massive injury, they should be fine. 631 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: I think this is all like just misdirection. 632 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: And you know, anytime the masses go one way, you 633 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: just go the other What about the Patriots with Drake May? 634 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: Are you as bullish as many are? 635 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I was so excited. I was really worried 636 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: about them putting him in last season just because of 637 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: our online situation. You know, his blindside was never protected, 638 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: our depth chart and left tackle in general was just awful. 639 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 4: Right tackle we dealt with a lot of issues as well, 640 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: and he didn't have a real receiving core. A lot 641 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: of the draft guys were sort of duds, and the 642 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: veteran guys weren't showing up well. Our backfield sort of 643 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: fell apart as well. Ramandra Stevenson didn't step up as 644 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: he did the year prior. So the fact that he 645 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 4: has digs, whether or not people keep having this discussion. 646 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: You know, is he a true number one? He's a 647 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: number one when you look at what Drake May had 648 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: last season, Right, Kyle Williams, I think is going to 649 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: be a great option. You have Fraveon Henderson out of 650 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: the backfield, who can catch passes as well, and then 651 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: they retain their two tight ends in Hooper as well 652 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: and Hunter Henry, so you have so many options for 653 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: Drake May. I always believed in Drake May's talent. I 654 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: think he has a great arm. I think he's accurate. 655 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: Of course, the legs were a huge thing. My biggest 656 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: fear and the reason I didn't want them to play 657 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 4: him last year was just because when he takes off running, 658 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: he's going to have to do that too often. He's 659 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: going to get injured. Luckily he didn't, you know, knock 660 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: on wood. That doesn't happen this season. But they spent 661 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: the most money in the offseason for a reason to 662 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: get that production, to beef up the defense, which I'm 663 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: a little worried about, you know, the linebacker depth. But 664 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: I still think they'll be fine. There's really no excuse. 665 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 4: You look at four wins the last two seasons, there's 666 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: really no excuse that they can't double that number. They 667 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: get at least the eight wins because of all the 668 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: pieces they run in, because the talent that Drake May has, 669 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: and I mean they were a year late on vrable, 670 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: but they finally brought him there. 671 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: So where does what do you see yourself doing? I 672 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: don't know, twenty twenty years from now, are you still 673 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: doing gambling? Are you at a network? Have you moved 674 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: on developing apps? What do you see your ideal future. 675 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, hopefully my app is launched and we're actually 676 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: working with a lot of teams and you know, high 677 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: schools and trainers. I'd love to do that part of 678 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: that my passion project. But I'd love to have my 679 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: own show and sort of do something like this where 680 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: it's really laid back and we talk sports, we talk 681 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: pop culture, we do talk bitting. I've found though that 682 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: a lot of the networks I'm talking to now are 683 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: a little hesitant because I'm seen as the betting girl 684 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 4: now to hire me as just a traditional reporter or 685 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: a traditional host when it's like, and you know this, 686 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: betting is just a layer of sports analytics and sports analysis, right. 687 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 4: I couldn't talk about all these sports in a betting 688 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: sense if I didn't understand them through and through. And 689 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: hopefully people will understand that as betting becomes more of 690 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 4: a norm. But I'd love to be part of a 691 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: show that's not just betting focused, it's everything. And I guess, 692 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 4: come on, and yeah. 693 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: So they're not really giving you that chance because you're 694 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: pigeon holed as oh that's the betting girl. 695 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it stinks because I love that people do 696 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: realize I understand the betting market well and you can 697 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: call me an expert in it. I love that because 698 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: I've worked hard for it. But that doesn't mean I 699 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: can't be a traditional reporter as well. 700 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, all right, Well, congrats on all your success. 701 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: Sounds like a. 702 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 2: Lot of things ahead. Thank you, and you know we'll 703 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: talk to you soon. 704 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks Jason, appreciate it.