1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: It is almost famous to ogs, we are here, Trista Sutter, Nayn, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: stop it and me? 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: What's up? 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Hey? Evan Bass? 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: Hi? How are you doing? 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Look at you? 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: Why? 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: No? 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, do you do a podcast? Because you are 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 4: all set up? 12 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: I don't do a podcast now I do. I do 13 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: a little radio show. 14 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Actually, very nice you do? 15 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah in Nashville. Yeah yeah, well yeah, it's in 16 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: a few different, few different markets. But it's called Get 17 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Your Man On, and we're talking about it's like doctors 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, professionals talking about you know, men's 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: health and all that kind of stuff. So it's pretty 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: that's amazing. Yeah. 21 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that is your background, right, I mean when 22 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: you I remember when you were on the show. Originally 23 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: you were a if I'm not mistaken, a ED pills salesman. 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: I think they referred to it as a right tel 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: dysfunction specialist. 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, were you were you in Were you 27 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: in pharmaceuticals at that time? 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: No, so I was in the like in the medical 29 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: practice space like so not like not like pharmaceutical sale. 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: It was more like like clinics, like clinical things. So 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: I've opened like over three dozen medical practices that are 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 3: just like specific to men's health, like and lowt across 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: the country. So that's that's kind of where it came from, 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: is uh. And you know I begged them on the show. 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: I was like, please don't say anything about you know, 36 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: my job, like I'm more on the business side. I 37 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: do the administrative stuff like no, no, never. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you come on. 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: I was so mad. Yeah, yeah, amazing, amazing. 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: Was she like better that radio? 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: The radio is really uh kind of to help that along, 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: Like it's more promotional stuff for it, like talking through 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: the different treatments for guys. There's like there's all kinds 44 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: of cool stuff out there now for guys, and when 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: it comes to mental health and d and all that stuff. 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: So it's it's almost like you know, talking about our 47 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: clinics and the different stuff out there, so it all 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: kind of flows together. 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Good for you, man, And I love it. 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: I mean, for real, your background puts us to shame, 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: Like I, yeah. 52 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: We shall do a podcast that the hell am I 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: doing in here? 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: I like it. I like your background. 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: No, it's good, Well mine's not real, that's all virtual. 56 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm just kidding. I'm coming to live from 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: my guest room. If I didn't have my kids running around, 58 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: i'd have a much cooler background. I can promise you 59 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: that I have a really cool area that I used 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: to do my podcast, our podcast from, and I had 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: to give that up because of the timing of when 62 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: we normally do these. One of the kids is usually, 63 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: you know, pulling on a pant leg and the other 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: ones like throwing things at me and yelling at me. 65 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: So like, it's probably not I got to go kind 66 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: of to find some seclusion somewhere. 67 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: How old are your kids now? 68 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Five and two and a half? 69 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, that's so fun. 70 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. 71 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: Ages. 72 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: What are yours? 73 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: Well, let me thank you. Twenty two, eighteen, fifteen, six 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: and four. 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm two to four. 76 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: That is a huge difference. It's like, how is that 77 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: is the twenty two year old kind of like a 78 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 4: little like a father figure to the four year old? 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: Actually he's nope. He is absolutely still an antagonistic older 80 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: brother to every single one. There is no there's no 81 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: father figure about him. He's still terrorizing them and chasing 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: them around the house. 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: Evin, how old were you when you had your first kid? 84 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: Well, so Nathan, who's twenty two. I actually adopted him 85 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: when he was two years old, so he was I'm 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: a previous marriage and so I adopted him, and I 87 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: just so I would think when when he was born, 88 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: I was like eighteen years old. Just you didn't know 89 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: I had a kid yet. 90 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: So sure, Oh that's fantastic. Gosh, man, you've been responsible 91 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: your whole damn life. 92 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Look at you. 93 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't have my first kids. I was 94 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: forty seven, so I was an immature disaster up until then. 95 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Trist To can tell you. 96 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: The pros and cog. 97 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: She just goes, yeah, pretty much pretty much. 98 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: How was life for you, Evan, what's up lately? 99 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, I mean it's just a lot of 100 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: kids and you know, sent one off to college this year, 101 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: so that was that was a big deal. Yes, the 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: twenty two year old went didn't didn't really go to college. 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: He just went straight into the workforce, which is great. 104 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: He's super successful. Manages a cool little hotel here that's 105 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: in Nashural. So this was the first like drive the 106 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: kid to college, yeah, and do the whole thing where 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: you put him in the dorm and like it's like 108 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: super sad and you're like, I'm never going to see 109 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: you again. You know. It's like that's how it feels, 110 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: and so U yeah, so that was really really emotional, 111 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: and it's still like part of our family's missing now 112 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: because he's just like he's Emplorida. He goes to f 113 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: s U in their theater program. So but so that's tough. 114 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: And then so it's like basically, I have a fifteen 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: year old who's home with me full time, like he 116 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: lives with me full time, and so he, uh, he's 117 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: very busy in soccer, but he's very much uh you know, 118 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: fifteen and like doing doing his own thing and like 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: all you know, always you know, chasing whatever he's chasing 120 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: on the weekend. And so he's he he's become like, 121 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's easier at fifteen than it was it 122 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: like six or four, like Bella and Charlie are. So yeah, 123 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: when I get the babies every other weekend, they uh, 124 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: they they play together, but then they you know, they 125 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: take up that entire weekend. It is like just balls 126 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: to the walls kids. So it's fun. 127 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in it. I'm in it. 128 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I know exactly that I know where you're at, buddy. 129 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: That's good. 130 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're just about out of diapers on two 131 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: and a half. 132 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: All well, I'm going back into them myself. But yeah, 133 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: my youngest is going to be out of them soon. 134 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: I need to call you, I mean call on that. 135 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm in my fifties, so if you have 136 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: any advice or any you're in your fifties. 137 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, sir, I'm fifty three, Tristan. I well, I 138 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: don't want anything, thanks pal. I don't want to say 139 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: anything about the other og on this line. 140 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: But I'm fifty one. 141 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: That gorgeous specimen is fifty one. Oh good, yes, thank 142 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: you very much. It's just good, clean living and lots 143 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: of vodka. That's what I obviously say. 144 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I credit it to Colorado fresh Air. 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right out there. Christ and I both 146 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: got out of California early. 147 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: Man. We I'm back in Michigan where I grew up, 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: and she's in Colorado where you know, she and her 149 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: love of her life, my former roommate on the Bachelorette. 150 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, but yeah, I mean I had. 151 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Such a pleasure to actually get to I don't think 152 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: i've actually met you in person or did we need 153 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: a Jaden Tanner's wedding? 154 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Did we meet that? 155 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: Nope, I wasn't. I wasn't around. Then you around that? Okay, 156 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: that was like season before me. 157 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I met so. 158 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Many people at the wedding and I and I don't 159 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: remember who I didn't meet. 160 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: But I feel like I know you, you know, I guess, yeah, 161 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: I guess. 162 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: I feel like everyone must have been there. That's you know, 163 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: on our show. So but yeah, but it's really nice 164 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: to meet you. So now, obviously you and Carly met 165 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: on the show and you know, got married and then 166 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: subsequently got divorce and split up. Is that it was 167 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: that hard for you to navigate that through the season. 168 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I can I'm sorry through the Bachelor Nation 169 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: because I'm sure that it was you know. I I 170 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: always tell trust to us because trist has never experienced 171 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: what you and I have. But sometimes going through a 172 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: divorce is much about embarrassment that it didn't work out. 173 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this is just talking vulnerable guy to guy here, 174 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: but it's almost like as much embarrassment that it didn't 175 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: work out because you know, you're in the public eye 176 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: as it is about like, you know, you're bummed. 177 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Of course, it's devastating, even if you want the divorce, 178 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: it's devastating. 179 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: But it's like, I can imagine that had to be 180 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: difficult for you to go through it. 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: In the public eye. 182 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys kind of met and fell in 183 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: love and everything right in front of everybody's eyes, and 184 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: then to have it kind of out work out had 185 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: to be pretty tough, especially with children. 186 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I mean it feels like my whole like 187 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: social media identity was like around that you know, relationship 188 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: and our children and all that stuff. So it definitely 189 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: felt like on that level, which is its social media, 190 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: which is I don't know, I'd barely even I don't 191 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: really even do it anymore. But yeah, like that level 192 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: was weird out from the public perspective, like you know, 193 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: people were saying stuff and it's like you're friend and 194 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: stuff off. But just there's just so many children involved, 195 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: that's what That's what really really added an extra layer 196 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: of you know, pain to it, and you never want 197 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: your kids to see you go through this stuff. And 198 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: everyone you know, you know, I have older children too, 199 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: so they had seen it already. So this was like 200 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: number two. It's like man like you know, there's like 201 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: I didn't want to stigma with like two divorces, like, 202 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: oh yeah, that felt it was really heavy, and and 203 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: of course, you know, people were like, you can't you know, 204 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: it's too that's too many, you know whatever. I forget 205 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: what they said. It was several years ago now, but 206 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: it was really it was really hard on that level. 207 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: And then just obviously going through the process of disconnecting 208 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: from someone that you met in a really unique way, 209 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: right that very few people have the opportunity to experience that, 210 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: you know, all that goes along with that. So yeah, 211 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: it was tough. It was definitely definitely really hard, embarrassing, 212 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: all the all the emotions runs again for. 213 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: Sure, I did, I understand. Yeah, it is tough. 214 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: I mean, my my ex wife was an actress and 215 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: so our whole thing played out on television as well. 216 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: She was on ABC as well, So it was it 217 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: was one of those things where even though we were 218 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: still you know, we still get along wonderfully. Well years later, 219 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: we just knew we weren't meant to be married. And 220 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: after seven years it was like, you know, everybody out 221 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: there has a comment and opinion and they don't realize 222 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: that you're you know, you're a person. It hurts, you know, 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: and you're still going through something that's that's hard, even 224 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: if you both agreed that it was the right thing 225 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: to do. So yeah, I I totally get it. Me 226 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: and my heart went out to you when that happened. 227 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: And I know we didn't know each other, but I 228 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: was thinking about you at that time, and you know, 229 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: thinking about both of you and knowing that it had 230 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: to be really difficult for you. 231 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's been a minute now, so I think, 232 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: you know, the process of healing is uh, you know complete. 233 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: I'd say it's you know, going through all the all 234 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: the therapy and still going through that, and you know, 235 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: stepping away from sort of social like Instagram and Twitter 236 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Yeah, really was helpful. I think, like, 237 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm always like, man, I miss I 238 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: miss mess around on those things and live tweeting The 239 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: Bachelor like it's so fun. Yeah, so I think about 240 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: getting it back into that stuff. 241 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: But do you feel like, do you feel like that 242 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: played a part and in the divorce and what happened 243 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: with you and Carly at all Instagram social media? Just 244 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: I often wonder how Ryan and I would have been 245 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: in the not the beginning, because you guys, you guys 246 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 4: were together for how long. 247 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: Let's see, we were separated for a while, so like 248 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: I think our marriage was like technically three or four years. 249 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, so even more to my point, like 250 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: I feel like in the beginnings of our relationship, you know, 251 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: we all of that stuff wasn't around we It was 252 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: just message boards, you know, for me and Ryan. And 253 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: I've often wondered if the stress of that, because it's 254 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: got to be stressful navigating a new relationship that's in 255 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: the public eye. And I'm not putting this on you. 256 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: If if it played no part, then it played no part. 257 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: But I just wonder if social media did play a 258 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: part in just the difficulties that you guys experience leading 259 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 4: up to your doors. 260 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I resented a little bit 261 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: because it's you know, then it's I don't know how 262 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: much of a deal. So it seems like social media 263 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: for bachelor people isn't as much of a thing anymore. 264 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: Like it seems like I don't know, follower account all 265 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: that stuff. Uh uh. Then it was everyone was making 266 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: a lot of money on social media, so it was 267 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: not just like your relationship and like here's a part 268 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: of my life. But it's like hey, also like you know, 269 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: I need my engagement to be high and this to 270 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: be I need this, this, this and this stuff to 271 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: work out. And you know, I always found the social 272 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: media that like that part really felt hard to be 273 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: like we got to do a post, Like we got 274 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: to do post, Like it's then like too long, people 275 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: think we're breaking up. We gotta do a post. It's like, okay, 276 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 3: let's do posts, even though it's really like really hard, 277 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: let's do it. So that is challenging to like work 278 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: that you know, you're supposed to be authentic and real 279 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: and get you're you're trying to like, you know, help 280 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: come other company to be successful. Uh, and you have 281 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: to keep these certain metrics up or else, you know, 282 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: your agent gets mad at you or whatever. He's like, 283 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: you gott to join this. Yeah, he was like, you 284 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: have to join this TikTok. If you join now, it'll 285 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: be huge. I was like, absolutely not, I'm not doing TikTok. 286 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: He was like, no one's on it if you get 287 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: on it now. And I could listen to him back 288 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: then because yeah, it was you know before it became popular, 289 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: but anyway, all that stuff was just like you have 290 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 3: to have that in your head. Sure, pressure, Yeah. 291 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: That's a wrinkle. 292 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: That's a wrinkle trist that I didn't have, you know, 293 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: when we I was on her season of the Bachelrette 294 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: and then and then when they made me the bachelor 295 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: after that. I don't think and Tristan, you and I 296 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: have talked about this a lot. I don't know that 297 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: I would have been able to handle it in all honesty. Like, 298 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: I think there's so much negativity out there, you know, 299 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: where people are just piping in with whatever, you know, 300 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: and they just they just think it's fun, like oh, 301 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this snarky thing, and and you're sitting 302 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: at home reading it. And I mean, I've said the 303 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: trist a million times. She knows this about me, but 304 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm incredibly sensitive about that kind of stuff. I'll see 305 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: a million things talking about how nice of a person 306 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: I am, and I'll see one thing that's mean, and 307 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: that thing will stick with me for weeks. I can't 308 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: shake it, you know, And so I can only imagine 309 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: when you're under the microscope with I mean, you know, 310 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: our show was a different dynamic right, we had like 311 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: thirty million viewers a week, but we yeah, but we 312 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: didn't have social media, you guys. You know, now the 313 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: show has like ten ten million views a week, but 314 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: like millions and millions and millions of impressions. It's like 315 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: we didn't have that chatterbox coming back at us to 316 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: dissect everything we said or did. 317 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Well. 318 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: You did have like a s weekly magazine. You guys 319 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: are in that show. You guys are like, you guys 320 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: had all the magazine. I don't thin like those aren't 321 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: even a thing anymore. But you guys like the grocery story, 322 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: you'd be like there, yeah, yeah. 323 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was more for my mom's. My mom. My 324 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: mom loved that. 325 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: You know, Oh, Bobby's on the cover. No matter what 326 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: the cover said, could be like he's a complete jackass. 327 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: My mom's like, honey, you look so handsome on the 328 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: cover on. 329 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: It's not nice. 330 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, yeah it was. It was just a 331 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: different dynamic. I feel like the social media stuff is 332 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: just it's tougher to navigate. 333 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: You know. I can imagine when. 334 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: You're married and and and your and your maybe like 335 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: like you said, I didn't even think about that, but 336 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: the pressure to post something together looking happy, even if 337 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: you guys aren't aren't feeling so happy that day, but 338 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: we got to get something up the ad. 339 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: I guess it should kind of create a lot of 340 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: extra tension. 341 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's there's a lot of 342 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: different different reasons. I don't think it was one thing. 343 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: I just don't think we were a great, you know, 344 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: overall fit outside of the the beach of Paradise. Yeah, 345 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: and uh and and we just couldn't really get to 346 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: where we had too much common ground. So but social 347 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: media definitely, like I don't know, I just it was 348 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: never what it did make it more chalenting, I think 349 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: for sure. 350 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. 351 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: How was your relationship now, because because I assume, you know, 352 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: you work together, because you can't juggle the kids without communicating, 353 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: how how is your apparently now? 354 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: I call it. I call it professional, like I think 355 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: it's like and that really is how it probably should be. 356 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: Very yeah, cut and dry to the point, and here's 357 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: what's happening, here's what's going on. You know, if there's 358 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: a high a really big highre hello, it's it's you know, 359 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: we communicate through that stuff. But I think it's pretty 360 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: it's there. It's just it's what it is, like, it's 361 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: just yeah. 362 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: And then Harley obviously just announced that she has a 363 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: serious boyfriend. I assume that you knew about him prior, 364 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: but maybe you didn't. How has that been with that 365 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: announcement bringing up any emotions? How are you feeling about that? 366 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: And have you met him? 367 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I haven't met him. I just I've found 368 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: out about him, I guess a couple of months ago. 369 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm excited to meet him. I really really want to 370 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: meet him. And the kids have mentioned him once or twice, 371 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: and so I'm like, I like, obviously wasn't she was 372 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: announcing everything and she shouldn't have. But I'm really looking 373 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: forward to meeting this guy. So happy. I really want 374 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 3: the you know, I'm happy for her and want the 375 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: kids happy with them too. So yeah, yeah, I feel 376 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: like I feel pretty like even about it. I'm like, 377 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: I'm happy for her. I want the kids to be happy, 378 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: you know, happy mom happy. Yeah, you know, so that's 379 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: that's that's a big deal. 380 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: Plus I think that's that kind of support is great 381 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: from both of you to the other person. Like, you know, 382 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: I always say that, you know, it's just because two 383 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: people split up doesn't mean they don't want the other 384 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: one to be happy in life and love. It just 385 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: means that they weren't as happy as they wanted to 386 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: be in life and love. Right, So it's it's nice 387 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: to be supportive of that of your partner. And then 388 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: I would think too, you know, it's probably a very 389 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: important thing. 390 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: You know. 391 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: When I got to Forrest, we didn't have children, so 392 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that dynamic. I I I fear it, 393 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: you know. I feel I'm always like, oh God, I. 394 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: Hope that doesn't happen to me again. 395 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: But I can only imagine, like, you know, from that perspective, 396 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: it's got to be important for you to know him 397 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: and make sure that you know he knows that you're 398 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 2: supportive and that you're cool, and if something goes up 399 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: with the kids that. 400 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: You know he needs to call you, you know, or whatever. 401 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: I mean. 402 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys will work that out. But I'm 403 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: sure there's a lot to it, you know. 404 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked it'd be great. Yeah, that's that's 405 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: a big deal. It's important to have all those relationships 406 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: be really healthy. 407 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, I think so. 408 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: Now, even though you haven't shipped anything on the on 409 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: the I G or on the Facebook. 410 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: Wait what does that mean? 411 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: I read earlier today. I read earlier today any uh 412 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: in Team Beat magazine that if you ship it, that 413 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: means that you are you know, you're supporting it together like. 414 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: A relationship essentially, like if you ship someone, Like if 415 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: I wanted to ship the two of you together, that 416 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: you were a good match, then I would say, I'm 417 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 4: shipping Bob and Evan. I think, you know, I would 418 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: be wrong. 419 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: Is Evan shipping? Are you? Are you in the shipping business? 420 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: Right now? Wait? Who am I shipping? 421 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: We're so confused right now they could cut the whole 422 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: show and we don't even know it. Like, are you 423 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: dating anybody? Like, I mean, what's your story? Are you 424 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: feeling serious about anybody? 425 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been. I've been dating someone for a year 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: and she's amazing and she is absolutely incredible and uh 427 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: we're met through work and so it's been it's been 428 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: really cool. The kids are obsessed with her and so yeah, yeah, 429 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: it's been really fun. But I've obviously kept it. I'm 430 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: not really posting anything on I think the last time 431 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 3: I posted was like, well was wedding a couple of 432 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: years ago or however long that was, and I'm just 433 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: not trying to keep it private. Do this a little bit. 434 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it. 435 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: I can imagine that you have to keep it private 436 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: compared to what you had previously. 437 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: I think that's a smart. 438 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, I definitely want to 439 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: do this the right way, you know, like you know, 440 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: I feel like the third time is the charm, Like, hey, 441 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: that's what I said. Nothing else outside of that, Evan. 442 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: We have so much in common. 443 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: I love this. 444 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: I was very divorced in a year my first marriage 445 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: and before I before I even met Trista, So when 446 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: I met Trista, I had already been through the meat grinders, 447 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: so to speak. 448 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, but so I get it. 449 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: Man, third time is a charm, I think, especially when 450 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 2: you're a little bit older, because you kind of let 451 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: go of some of those, you know, those conventions of 452 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: marriage that you have in your head, like everything's always 453 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: going to be perfect and we're just going to be 454 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: like butterflies and puppy dogs all the time, and it's like, no, 455 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: it's not. But then you also have that factor that 456 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: you know it's not as bad even in times. 457 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: That aren't as great as others. 458 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: It's not as bad as it could be because you've 459 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: experienced a little bit of that too, you know what 460 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, So that that experience actually gives you, I think, 461 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: a totally different perspective to relationships. 462 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: And I need that time will be the charm for you, buddy, 463 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: I do. 464 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank you. Let's go. Come on. 465 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: I got you, man, I got you over here. 466 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: My kids are also really opening and third times to Jurnal, 467 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: especially the older ones, are like that, come on, yeah, right, 468 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: I forgot So. 469 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: I know you're not on social so maybe not. But 470 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: do you still watch the show? 471 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: You know? 472 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: I took a break. Yeah, and I've been watching this 473 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: season and with my friend and uh, I'm like, this 474 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: is such a great season. I'm like, oh my gosh, 475 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: I missed this. 476 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: Such a great season, right, good. 477 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 478 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: We haven't talked about. 479 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: This, you know, I haven't been watching it, but not 480 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: not that I I know who Joey is and I've 481 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: seen all the great feedback to him, and I've watched 482 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: a lot of clips of the show. 483 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: But I just it's it's just a tough time of 484 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: the day from me. It comes on and I'm putting. 485 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: So but you know, my kids are at this age 486 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: right now where I'm putting them, and because I'm gone 487 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: a lot, my thing when i'm home is I'm putting 488 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: the boys to bed, you know. And so the show 489 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: comes on as I'm putting them to bed and then 490 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: and I love it, you know, Like I put my 491 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: youngest to bed first, and I come in and grab Grayson. 492 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, let's go, buddy, and you know, it's this 493 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: daddy's time, you know. 494 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: And so I'm reading books. 495 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, from about seven to nine o'clock 496 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: every night, I'm pretty. 497 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Much on lockdown, and so that's awesome, you know. 498 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: So after that, it's like I'm catching up on other 499 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: stuff and I don't really have a chance to watch TV. 500 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: So I would be lying if I told you I 501 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: didn't even know what's going on in the news of 502 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: the time. 503 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, I just don't. 504 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: But you know, I know that I like who I like, 505 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: and so when I watched Cliffs of the show, I'm like, man, 506 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: I like this Joey guy. 507 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: I really like him, you know. 508 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: And yeah, and I like a few of the ladies 509 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: that I've seen on the show too, And I really. 510 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: Hope that it all works out for him. 511 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: Evan, do you like for the end? 512 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: Oh? 513 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: Do do you watch spoilers or listen to spoilers? 514 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely not spoiling people. Yeah, I really hope it's actually 515 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: either one would be great, but they both are like 516 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: so different in their connection with him. But I'm leaning 517 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: towards Kelsey, although Daisy is more like that that would 518 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 3: be the storybook bachelor type of outcome. But I do 519 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: like Kelsey a lot. I think she's really cool. Yeah. 520 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: I thought Maria would have been a great would have 521 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: been a great fun choice too, like she would have 522 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: kept them on his toes. Yeah, I would love to 523 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: see her be the bachelorette. 524 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: I think, Oh my gosh, I know so. I haven't 525 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 4: watched the women tell all. They haven't announced. It was 526 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: a mess. I'm sure. 527 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: I think they moved it an hour later just because 528 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: of bald cursing. 529 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: No, that's why. 530 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: They changed, didn't you. That's Oh my gosh, that makes 531 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: so much sense. That is hysterical. 532 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: That's funny. 533 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 4: I loved Maria. My daughter and I are actually watching 534 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: it together for the first time, like a season where 535 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: he's seen she's fourteen and she has seen different episodes 536 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: from different shows. But so she we went to the 537 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: Golden Wedding and so great it was. Yeah, it was amazing. 538 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: To stop it, Bob, I loved that wedding. Oh wait, yeah, 539 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: that's right. I wasn't invited. 540 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: Oh I say that. 541 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: I was invited until Trista added Blasilely and Max to 542 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: her guest list and then like you're out. 543 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: Yes it is, that's true. 544 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: So anyway, the kids went and Blakesley and me, Me 545 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: and Blakesley and Joey and Caitlyn were together at the bar. Yes, 546 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: we were at the bar with a fortune, and we 547 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: had this like in depth conversation that I feel like 548 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: Blakesley just she just bonded with him. She she just 549 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 4: loves Joey. So she really wanted to watch this season 550 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 4: with me, and we've been watching it together and Maria 551 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 4: was one of our favorites. 552 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: We loved her. 553 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: I just love how like she is just who she 554 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 4: is and she doesn't care and she does keep everyone 555 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: on their toes like she's not the status quo kind 556 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: of person that's on the show, you know. 557 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: I Her authenticity is I think so appealing, and Joey's 558 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: is too Joey's I think he's a fantastic brochler. 559 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: He really is. You guys, I have this group of 560 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: buddies that we are we're a text thread together and 561 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: there my it's my brother in law, Jady, who I 562 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: know trust has met, but my brother in law, and 563 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: then a bunch of really more of his buddies and 564 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: then me. But we're all from the same area called 565 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: down River, Michigan. And so you know, ever since I've 566 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: been on ever since I was on The Bachelor twenty 567 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: years ago, or since I was on trist the season 568 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 2: twenty one years ago, they've always been like, you know, 569 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: teasing me. And well, one of the things that my 570 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: brother in law and a couple of the other guys 571 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: on the thread do is they are super into watching 572 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: the women tell all the men tell. 573 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: All right, yes, So all I know is. 574 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: The other night, my phone is just blowing up and 575 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: they're toasting, you know, they taking pictures of themselves toasting 576 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: wine to the TV and you know, drinks. And their 577 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: whole thing was if they could, if they could write 578 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: the script that Maria needs to be the next bachelorette. 579 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: That's that was the consensus of everybody on that. Yeah, 580 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: and so as someone who hasn't even got a chance 581 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: to watch this season, I'm like, well, I know exactly 582 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: who you guys are talking about. Like they think she's beautiful, 583 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: She's got a big personality, she doesn't care what anybody thinks, 584 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: you know, add up. 585 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: But she's still. 586 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: Kind and he has a sweet side. 587 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah's a fun one for sure. It'll be a little 588 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: bit of a mess because she probably tried to quit 589 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: a few times. 590 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: I mean that that I think is right. There is 591 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: why she won't be the bachelor at But yeah, it's unfortunate, 592 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 4: and I do think that was the right decision for 593 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: Joey to make because she did try to leave. So 594 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: if any shows you that they're going to leave you 595 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: when the going gets. 596 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Tough, I think. 597 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: I do. 598 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I do love the Kelsey and Daisy. 599 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: I've actually like d. 600 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: MD both of them and just love I love both 601 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: of them. I think either of them will be a 602 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 4: great match for him and he could find happiness. But 603 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: I okay, I want to ask you, Evan, since you've 604 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: been watching, do you have any addictions as to what 605 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 4: happens in the finale, because, like they've been alluding to 606 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 4: the fact that it's never happened before, So whatever happens 607 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: has never happened before. 608 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, what Maria comes back, Maria comes Is it 609 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: post Harrison has never happened before though, or that's a 610 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: valid point because a lot happened before Jesse pre Jesse. 611 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it gets turned down. I think it 612 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: gets turned down by somebody. 613 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: That will break my heart, that will break my heart. Like, 614 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: has that ever happened before? 615 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think it's ever been. 616 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't think a season has ever ended, not to 617 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: my knowledge anyway. I mean, we've had several seasons to 618 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: end without a proposal, mine included, but we haven't had 619 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: any end with someone actually proposing and the other person 620 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: saying I'm sorry, I'm not feeling it. 621 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: You're right, you're right. That's never happened before. 622 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: We also haven't had that that one person sent home 623 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: come back to crash the engagement ceremony either, which that's 624 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: my prediction. Oh really, Maybe Maria gets even spicier and 625 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: decides she's coming back to claim what she thinks is 626 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: rightfully hers. 627 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Oh oh kay, heart, that's how I'm read. 628 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: Not a bad I don't be interesting. 629 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. I have to still hope because at 630 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: the wedding, I believe they had already filmed everything I think, 631 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: and he seems really happy. Of course, he could just 632 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: have already dealt with all of the you know, sadness 633 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: and everything and been fine. But oh gosh, I really 634 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: hope he doesn't get his heart. 635 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna get Okay, if what if Someone's like I 636 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: need some time to think. What if Daisy's like I 637 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: need some time to think about it, because it like 638 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: the previews were like showing her being really emotional, and 639 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: so what if what if that's it's just as simple 640 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: as that. You've come back like that. Okay, let's do this. 641 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: You're right, it could be. 642 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 643 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: I'm so I just I needed to come tomorrow. Is 644 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 4: it next week? Is that the finale next week? And they'll 645 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: do that after the Yeah, okay. 646 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: The one? 647 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on. 648 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: I'm just reading he has the coochlear implant. 649 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my. 650 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: God, she's adorable, she's so sweet. 651 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. 652 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the one who I really loved from the 653 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: night one intros I remember thinking, oh my god, that 654 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: girl is so cute. 655 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, she is super sweet, and I just I've 656 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: heard out there just people are like, I don't like 657 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: their connection as much. It seems like Kelsey and and 658 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: Joey have more of like a a chemistry, like a 659 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: visceral chemistry, if you will, And then you know, Daisy 660 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: makes him happy. And but also like it's funny because 661 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: Ryan was kind of listening in on the other night, 662 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: which she does not watch the show, but because there 663 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: was no Hockey on, he was he was watching with us, 664 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: and he was like, do you feel like they're making 665 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: us think that he's going to choose this one and 666 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: not the other one? And I feel like when he 667 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: was talking to Daisy, like there were a lot of 668 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: breaks in the conversation where they were just kind of 669 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: sitting there like, you know, it wasn't it wasn't blowing 670 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: very well. So whenever they do that sort of thing 671 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: and they and they kind of lead us down a 672 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: path of oh, these two don't have a connection, I'm like, hmmm, 673 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: they probably do, and they're just showing the moment where. 674 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: That was the old school trick. 675 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 2: Remember the old school trick back in our days was 676 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: they always made the audience think they're picking the other person. Right, Yeah, 677 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: so when you actually pick the person where you have 678 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: the best chemistry people, what you doing man? And you're like, no, honestly, 679 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: this was amazing too, you know. 680 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: So yeah that was the old trick. So maybe they're 681 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: going back to who knows, they've gone through dance so 682 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: many times. Yeah, the old days were simple, buddy, We 683 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: were simple. 684 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: I mean I was a fan. I watched it, like, 685 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: I love this show, Like from it was so great 686 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: at the beginning. It's been up and down. 687 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: We had so much fun together. Like but I always 688 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: say this and in Trista, you know, I say this 689 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: about you all the time. The one piece of advice 690 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: that I took from Trista which I thought was so 691 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: great was I realized that it really starts at the top, 692 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: Like whoever that lead person is, they really set the 693 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: tone and just to set the tone, like we were buddies, 694 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: like all the guys in the mansion hanging out. 695 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: We loved each other. 696 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: Like. There was never a moment where I was like, oh, man, 697 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: I don't want Ryan to get that day. 698 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: I was like, oh the beast time. 699 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: Man, I love you, brom you know, I'll be shamoo 700 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: sitting back here swimming in. 701 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: The pool, you know, while you're away. 702 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: I was a little heavier then, but but there was that, 703 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: And then it was like, but when I went into 704 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: my season, I started it that way too. I'm like, you, guys, 705 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: please don't think of this as a prize, because this 706 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: is a hot mess. 707 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: So just go. 708 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: Ahead and have a good time, get to know each other, 709 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: have fun, and however this thing shakes out, it's going 710 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: to shake out, you know. 711 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: It's like, it doesn't mean you guys have to be 712 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: backbiting here when you know. And I loved that. 713 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: Trista kind of led with that and made us realize 714 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: it was okay to be friends. Like we didn't go 715 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: in there and feeling like we had to be caddy 716 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: and enemies. And I almost got kicked off the show 717 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: as a result of it in the first week by 718 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: the former I guess he still is the EP but 719 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: came over and it was like, you know, hey, man, 720 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: don't be all kumbaya on the hot tub, buddy. I'm like, what, 721 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: I got a little trouble, But regardless, it was definitely 722 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: just a lot of fun. And you know, I think 723 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: that starts at the top, and that was one thing 724 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: I think really really reverberated through the screen for people 725 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: at home. 726 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: They knew these were a bunch of good guys. 727 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: Who liked each other and just adored Trista, you know, 728 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: and that was kind of the coolest part about it. 729 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: I think. 730 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that's what I think. 731 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: Joey has been like such a the one thing I've 732 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: taken from what I've seen of his season so far, 733 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: he's been kind of that kind of a guy, like 734 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: just like a you know, almost just like a big 735 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: smile on his face for pretty much everything, and you know, 736 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: trying to everybody happy. 737 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: And I like that. I like that. 738 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah he doesn't. It felt like everyone was doing it 739 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: for the likes, you know, for for a while. Seems 740 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: he seems to not be that way. So yeah, it's 741 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: prove And of course they are getting really great follower stuff. 742 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: I was looking at it because I'm curious how they're 743 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: doing because it's such a good season. They're all like, 744 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's back up, like you know, there 745 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: they're follower counsel all that stuff. So it's fascinated by 746 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: that work just because mac theme to. 747 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: Another question related to the show, do your kids know 748 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 4: how you guys. 749 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 3: Met, uh the baby, like the six and the four 750 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: year old. Uh, Charlie does not, but Bella obviously. 751 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 4: Your older kids. They were on the show, weren't they 752 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 4: They Yeah, yeah, yeah they were so so Charlie and Bella. 753 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: Did they know how you and Carly originally met Bella. 754 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: Bella has gotten it to a degree. Yeah, people ask 755 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: for pictures. Then then she gets really it's not a 756 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: big dealer, but she's just kind of like, oh, yeah, 757 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 3: I'm on a TV show. And so like a couple 758 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: of years ago they filmed, they did some I was 759 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: watching and they did some like throwback moment and it 760 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: was like I was like, hey, Bella, look there's daddy 761 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: on the TV. And I was like, yeah, it's like 762 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: a football thing or something. And she was like, that's 763 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: so cool, daddy. And I was like, yeah, that's how 764 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 3: we met. That was I mean, you know, and she 765 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: she she doesn't talk about it, but yeah. 766 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: It's just part of life, Like that's just what did it. Yeah, 767 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 4: that's how my kids were. When somebody wants a picture 768 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: my mom and dad. That's not normal, but it's fine, 769 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 4: or that's normal. I guess they were thinking probably, and 770 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: then you can be then you can be. 771 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 2: My son Grayson will be at like McDonald's playland. Tristan 772 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: knows this story, I think, but he'll he'll literally see 773 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: people like looking at me and talking and he'll go over. 774 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: He'll go, Hi, I'm Grayson. Are you looking at my dad? 775 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: Do you know him from? Do you know him from? 776 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: Bob the Builder? 777 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: And then they'll go what Builder and they'll say no, 778 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 2: We've never watched it, and he goes, I'm just kidding. 779 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: It's Bob the Bachelor. Do you want a picture with him? 780 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: He takes pictures. 781 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 4: I'm just like a story that's hysterical. 782 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I literally does it all the time. I'll just 783 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: be like Grayson, they don't need a pictures on you 784 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: their fine? Really sure he's going where you gets it from? 785 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 786 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my gosh, that is that's hysterical. My kids 787 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 4: are like opposite. Can we run away from the camera anytime? Anyone? 788 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: So funny? 789 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 3: That's how the boys are. They got sick of it. 790 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure I do love that like it was fun 791 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: for a minute and then like a way to like 792 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: a very small degree, and but they that really affected them. 793 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: Actually they hate like social media or they hated it 794 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: for a season, Like they went through like a couple 795 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: things like it's all fake, it's all horrible, and so 796 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: they but they definitely hate the hated the picture thing 797 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: after after the novelty, Yeah, it's calm back down, like 798 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: it's really it's it's a cool, fun thing to be like, Yeah, 799 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: that happened to me at one point in my life, 800 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: and now I'm back to just being a dad. 801 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: Because your girlfriend watched the show, did she know who 802 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 4: you are before you started dating? I obviously who you 803 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: were from work, but did she know your past on 804 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 4: The Bachelor before you. 805 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: Guys started She she didn't, and I think like somebody 806 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: else told her, like after the fact, they're like, you know, 807 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, like everyone was on the TV show now 808 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 3: I know, I guess. So she like looked at them. 809 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god. Yeah, she assumed I was 810 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: married because I had like you know, I was like 811 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: I talked about my five kids, right, It's like I 812 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: got five kids, right, married, And so it was like 813 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 3: when she found out she was single and she did 814 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 3: the whole deep dive thing, I was like, oh my gosh. 815 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 3: So uh And she's more like way private about stuff here, 816 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 3: so it was. It was a bit of a like 817 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: you're like, okay, I don't know, and I was like, 818 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: it's it's fine, it's not that big of a deal anymore. 819 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Like take your time figure it out, exactly. 820 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: It's it's not all of you are I mean, for 821 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: all of us, it's not our identity. It's just part 822 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 4: of you know, our. 823 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 3: Story exactly for most of us. For some it's still 824 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: a very big part of identity. 825 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always I always tell everyone whenever they you 826 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: know so, and this is something Evan, because I can 827 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: tell you you're a humble guy, and you know you've 828 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: been through it and you're back home and doing your thing. 829 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: But people always ask me, like, you know, what advice 830 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 2: do you give the new bachelors. I'm like, well, they 831 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 2: don't really ever ask me, but if they were to 832 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: ask me, my advice would be, it's not about you. 833 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: A monkey could be handing on a flower. 834 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: Up there, and the girls are going to get pissed 835 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: and cry if they don't get a flower, and the 836 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: guys are gonna get caddy and weird behind the scenes 837 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: if able to get a flower. But you know, I 838 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: think that's that's obviously, you know, that's specific to my season, 839 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: because just this season it was all truly about Trista 840 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: and if it's not true, it was true, it was true, 841 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 2: they could have had to chimp up their handed out 842 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: flowers and people don't Yeah. 843 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: Stop it. 844 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 4: I do. I feel like we met. Did we meet 845 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: on what was that show? 846 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 3: Jeez? 847 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 4: A country singer? 848 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 849 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelly Pickler, Kelly Pickler. 850 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: That was it, because I feel like we saw each 851 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 4: other there, But I don't know if we had met 852 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: before that. 853 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: I think we were in each other Good Morning America 854 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 3: at some point or something. Yeah. Yes, there's been a 855 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: couple of times with the Pickler and band. 856 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 857 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: I'm so sad it's out of business now or whatever. 858 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: Totally, that was so much fun. 859 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: I love Kelly Pickler. 860 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 3: Yes, cool, it was a. 861 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: Fun show, and I love Nashville. Getting to go to 862 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 4: Nashville is fun for me. When you don't live there, 863 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: it's a fun place to visit. Well, it has been 864 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: really fun to talk to you, Vin, you catch up. 865 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 4: I'm really happy for your happiness and that you've you've 866 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 4: found happiness in another relationship. Tell her we said hi, 867 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 4: and if she ever wants to come on, she can 868 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 4: come on the podcast. 869 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: Yes, I love it. Doesn't sound like she's going to 870 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: have interest in that though, but I don't know. 871 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: But give those cute cutie pie kids a big hug 872 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 4: from us, and we just appreciate your candor. And I'm 873 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 4: on here to chat. 874 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. And Bob, great 875 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 3: to meet you on here. I hope you can. 876 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: Definitely, I would love that, man. 877 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: I actually come down to Nashville quite a bit, so 878 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: next time i'm done, I'll get me a number from 879 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 2: our producers. 880 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: I will for sure. 881 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: It'd be awesome. 882 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, i'd love it. I'd love it. You 883 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: seem like a great guy. 884 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 3: Man. 885 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm happy for all your success and all your kid 886 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 2: kids and all the good stuff happening to you. We 887 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: wish you the best, and please come back and visit 888 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 2: us anytime you want. 889 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks so much, thank you. 890 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: Thanks a nice guy. He's awesome, Yeah. 891 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 4: So sweet. I just like him, super down earth and 892 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 4: actually super freaking funny, and I just yeah, he's a 893 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 4: good guy. 894 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: I like him well. 895 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: As always, you conducted a lovely interview, Miss Sutter. I 896 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 2: thought you did spectacular. 897 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: Oh thank you you too. 898 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Gripping gripping work. 899 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 2: You ebbed and flowed between, you know, the social dynamic 900 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: of a conversation and the hard hitting news facts. 901 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: And that's oh yeah, I'm just a hard hitting reporter. 902 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: That's too. And now I'm going to go eat my breakfast. 903 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: No, hey, there you go, there you go. Yeah, it's 904 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: early for you. It's very early for you, it is it. 905 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 4: I actually slept until ten thirty the other day. 906 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, right. 907 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 4: It's freakrkets. So I don't have to up and get them, 908 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 4: move in and make sure they get to school on time. 909 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: So not that I would meet, not that I have to, 910 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 4: but I just feel like, even though they're fourteen and 911 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 4: sixteen and they should be able to do it on 912 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 4: their own because Max is driving, I just I still, 913 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 4: you know, I want to help. 914 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: I get it. I get it in the same way. 915 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean mine mine can't do anything by themselves, but 916 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: you know that's still I enjoy it. You know, the 917 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 2: things they can do by themselves, whatever is, I'm still 918 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 2: doing them for them anyway. 919 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: So there you go. 920 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: But always a pleasure, my dear friend. Thank you for 921 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: taking the time out today, for doing the show. Thanks 922 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: everybody for listening to almost famous to ogs, we appreciate 923 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: it and keep those clicks and likes coming. 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