1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Time time, luck and load. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: The Michael Verie Show is on the air. I got 4 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: an email during the break somebody had. 5 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: Said, we should teach our kids money. They should learn 6 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: about mortgages and interest rates and compounding and investing. You know, 7 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: when I was running for city council the first time 8 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: it was the election was in two thousand and one. 9 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 2: But I went around to well respected business leaders around 10 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: town and one of them was a guy named Dean Kannally, 11 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: and he had a blue chip, well respected boutique trust 12 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: company called Kannale Trust, and you had to have a 13 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: certain threshold to be a client of his boutique firm. 14 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: And at the time it felt like eighty trillion dollars, 15 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: but incomes and wealth increased exponentially in the last two 16 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: decades in a way they had never on scale like 17 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: that before. So let's say you had to have a 18 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: million dollars in two thousand to be his client, which 19 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: was a big threshold. And I asked for his support 20 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: to run for city council and he said, I will 21 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: give you my support if you will give me an 22 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: hour to talk about the fundamentals of finance personal finance. 23 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: I want you to understand how they work, and I 24 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: want to explain it to you, and I want you 25 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: to listen to me. And I did, and it probably 26 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: turned into two hours. And I didn't do a lot 27 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: of what he told me to do at the time, 28 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: wish I had, but I did some and it stayed 29 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: in my mind, and as I got older, and I 30 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: started thinking about things like, what if you have a 31 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: stroke and can't work anymore, what if you get fired? 32 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: What if? What if? What are you doing to at 33 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: least make. 34 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: Sure that you got, you know, via any sausages and 35 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: salting crackers, for. 36 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: The rest of your life. 37 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: And so I think about all the things that people 38 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: don't know, that they either learned the hard way too late, 39 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: or never learn and don't understand. And I think that's 40 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: unfortunate because we all pay into this school system, whether 41 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: we send kids there or not, we all pay into 42 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: this school system to teach young people things, and I 43 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: think we got lost along the way as to what's important. 44 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: And if I'm being completely honest and. 45 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: I'm not insulting women and I'm not insulting teachers, I 46 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: think that in most cases you've got teachers who are women, 47 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: who themselves don't know anything about finance, are engineering or science? 48 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: Who Even the best intended teachers are caregivers. They love children, 49 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: They want to see children develop. They care a lot 50 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: about a child's confidence, and these sorts of things, which 51 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: is good, don't get me wrong. 52 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: But you can't teach what you don't know. 53 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Who is it Seneca who said teaching is learning. When 54 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: I give a speech, which I give fewer and fewer 55 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: these days, but when I give us each to a 56 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: group and they asked me to speak on a particular subject, 57 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: instead of just speak, I will often go back and 58 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: review facts and figures and things about what I'm going 59 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: to talk about. And that's not teaching per se, but 60 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: in a sense it is. And I find that at 61 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: the end of that I feel very refreshed and invigorated 62 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: from that learning process I undertook. 63 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: To get to the point to deliver that speech. 64 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Let's start with Chris, then Kyle, then Gay, Dave, then Heather, 65 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: than Mike. Chris, You're on the Michael, But how about that? 66 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: Chris? Kyle? What what? What just happened? Chris? You're up? 67 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Goud I bet Ramon didn't pot him on? 68 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Chris, Yes, I was just calling to say 69 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: how they should teach you, you know, bommon common sense 70 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: things like how to change a time, how to change 71 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: a light bulb, how to do kind of things that 72 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: these kids these days, they don't know what to do. 73 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: They're just agreed. 74 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you look ideally a dad out to teach 75 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: his kid that, and I think there's a lot of 76 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: people who would say, yeah, they ought to, who haven't 77 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: done that. You know, sports is such a such an 78 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: interesting thing because it's very natural. I grew up playing 79 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: youth sports, so I wanted my kids to play youth sports. 80 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: I spent so much quality time with my kids, driving 81 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: them to and from sports, hitting grounders, catching balls, throwing balls, 82 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: throwing hitting up pop flies, teaching them the elements of 83 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: the sports. I love that they were then playing. And 84 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: it's a very natural and easy thing. 85 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I think if you. 86 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: Didn't grow up learning how to change the tire, change 87 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: the light bulb, take things apart, replace them, then you 88 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: don't teach it to your child. You know, people teach 89 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: their kids to fish because they themselves fished, which's a 90 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: great father son. It's not life skill, except maybe it 91 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: is because having a hobby, developing a hobby I think 92 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: is an important life skill is something I've not been 93 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: very good at. My hobby is learning, and I learned 94 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: to channel that. But people who love to hunt love 95 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: to fish. I think it's an important part of good 96 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: sound mindset. 97 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Kyle, you're up, go. What should people learn in school 98 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: that they don't now? 99 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: I've got a long laundry list, but my biggest pet 100 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 4: peeve is learning how to hold a writing instrument, how 101 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 4: to form a letter, and how to write in cursive. 102 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: Three children that can do neither, and they're all in 103 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: their twenties, and it just drives me crazy whenever they 104 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: send me a note. There two used to being on 105 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 4: the computer or their phone, and they don't learn the 106 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: the basic forming a letter. You know, it's crazy they 107 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 4: don't teach that. 108 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: Kyle, let me ask you something, and I'm not disagreeing, 109 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: but I've given this some thought. Why is it important 110 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: that children learn cursive? 111 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: Because the best form of saying thank you was a 112 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: personal handwritten note you're drop in the mailbox, but you. 113 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: Can write a handout below that is printed. I've asked 114 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: myself this and I can't come up with a good answer. 115 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: I wish somebody would answer this for me and help 116 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: me out. 117 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: I just believe it looks more formal and as opposed 118 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: to thanks and block lettering. 119 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's the opinion. 120 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: I suppose you're right for me. I didn't give you 121 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: my answer because I wanted to hear yours for me. 122 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: There's something unique about each person's cursive. 123 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: Is it loopy? Is it height? 124 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Is it does it lean like italics? Do they press 125 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: hard or light? I find all of those things to be, 126 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, part of our signature, part of our DNA, 127 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: part of our individuality. And I find that interesting. All right, Gay, 128 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Dave and Heather, y'all hold on for just a moment. 129 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: And we have phone lines that just opened up seven 130 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: one three, nine nine nine one thousand with. 131 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: The Michael Ferry. 132 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: They're all Duncans, and do you know Duncan names? 133 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: Yo, yoll. 134 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: I got an email in the break from full name. 135 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: He's okay, he's Greg. His son is Michael. 136 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: And I had asked on Facebook for people, as I 137 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: often do, to send me quirky unique startup businesses. Businesses 138 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: are nostalgia businesses that our owner occupy, owner operated interesting 139 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: business callers. Hold just a moment, I'll be right with you, 140 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: and he sent me an email he said, our son 141 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: is the founder of a company called Pero pa r 142 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: started it from scratch. It's a marketplace for accounting professionals. 143 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: It matches accountants their skill sets with clients in need 144 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: of fractional services. So, if you think of Percento Technologies, 145 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: which has been a sponsor of my show for probably 146 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: fifteen years, Ramon I said my show, I'm at our show, 147 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: Me and Chad. Percento Technologies was built on the concept 148 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: that many companies, even mid sized companies, don't have the IT. 149 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: Prowess. 150 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: They don't have a robust enough IT presence to handle 151 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: the growth and development. 152 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: And you know that. 153 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: Let's say they're going out to spend a million dollars 154 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: on technology, just just upgrading computers, which is what Ramon's 155 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: wife does for Texas Law Shield. Just buying all new computers. Okay, 156 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: are we going to deploy those? How are we going 157 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: to do those? How are we going to make it scalable? Well, 158 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: how are we staying up with where we're going to 159 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: be in a year? I mean, you know, you feel 160 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: bad when you're the guy that buys a year model 161 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: of a car and you don't get a discount because 162 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: that model's going away. And two months later they flip 163 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: to a new model and your car looks ten years old. 164 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: You're bummed out right. 165 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's even worse with computers, and now you've got 166 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: security because you got all these hacks into you got 167 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: ransomware and all that and performance, speed and everything that 168 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: goes with that. So Persento is based on the idea 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: that you have an IT department that you can't afford 170 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: full time, and you and you pay a for fractional 171 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: interest of their you know, fractional services, because you don't 172 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: need a guy at three hundred thousand dollars a year 173 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: or whatever they make full time half the time he's 174 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: goofing off. You just need a part of what he's doing. 175 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: And I would think that would be true with accounting, 176 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: I suppose. I mean, I keep my accountants pretty busy 177 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: at DeRos Partners because I want to look at strategically 178 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: making good decisions, not just complying with tax codes. I 179 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: don't want to I don't want to push the limits 180 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: because I have a target on my back. But I 181 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: also don't want to miss out on things that are obvious. 182 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: So I need full time accounting services. Some folks that 183 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: are small, I would assume probably only need a little bit, 184 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: and they would be below the threshold of Darroche Partners. 185 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: I get a lot of emails from people who will say, hey, 186 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: can you send me to your accountants? And I vet 187 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: them for Deroche because they're meant for high net worth 188 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: individuals and mid size companies and above. They're not efficient 189 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: or cost efficient for a guy just trying to do 190 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: his personal taxes. So you know, I think there's probably 191 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: a niche somewhere in there below what Deroche Partners does. 192 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: All right, Gay Dave, if you're up, Hey, Martins are. 193 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 5: They need to teach the US Constitution for at least 194 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: the whole year so people understand it. 195 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I wonder you know a lot of 196 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: people will tell me, do you grow up in Texas? 197 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 5: No? I didn't. 198 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: I grew up in New Jersey. That's gay. Do you 199 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: know that you have Hey? 200 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: Can I tell you? 201 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 202 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: But hold on, I'll tell you this. You have become 203 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: such a resource for our show that every time something 204 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: comes up, Ramone will say you should ask Gay Dave, 205 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: like what is like There'll be something that happens and 206 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: he'll say, we don't have good gator. You should ask 207 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Gay Dave what he thinks about that. But I don't 208 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: want to, you know, I don't want to ask you 209 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: too many questions. 210 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: But ramone's best time. I can I tell you? 211 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: Can I tell you a quick story about a cursive. 212 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Writing about what? 213 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 5: When I was in eighth grade, Yeah, cursive writing story. 214 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 5: When I was in eighth grade, I had a history 215 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 5: teacher and I English teach are a history teacher, he 216 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: used to take off a point every time I would 217 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 5: write partly in print and not incursive on her tests. 218 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: So I get one hundred on the tests and end. 219 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Up with like an eighty. 220 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 5: So one day she's writing on the talk board. 221 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: And what does she do. 222 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 5: She does exactly what she used to take every point 223 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: off for, and I sit up there like you hit 224 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 5: a creat I went off on her right, and then 225 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 5: she started like yelling back. And then this kid, Jason Cardon, 226 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 5: who never gets in trouble, gets up and starts defending me. 227 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 5: His mom was a teacher in the school, and she 228 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 5: kicks us both at a class who went to we 229 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: had to go see the scariest principle ever had mister Dorney, 230 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: this big bull of a man. So he get in 231 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: there and he's like, what are you two doing in here? 232 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 5: And I tell him the story. He marches us back 233 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 5: to class and he pulls her in the hallway and 234 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: he starts going off on her. And I was like, 235 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 5: oh my god, this is awesome. It's like the best 236 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 5: moment and uh and and shut enough. She came back 237 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 5: in with the red face and for the rest of 238 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: the year she I mean, she hated me anyway, but 239 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 5: she really really hated me after that. 240 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: But it was awesome. I love it. Thank you go, Dave. 241 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: So this this cursive issue keeps coming up, and look, 242 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: I can say, yes, the kids all have. 243 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: To learn cursive. 244 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: Cursive is important, but I think it's very important that 245 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: you be able to question positions you have and answer 246 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: them as if someone else had asked it, answered it, 247 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: asked you. So I said earlier, why is it important 248 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: that kids learn cursive? I hope they learn cursive because 249 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: I learned cursive. 250 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Right. 251 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: I hope they think Dan Pastorini's a great guy, because 252 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: I think Dan Pastorin's a great guy. But I don't 253 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: know that it's going to make a difference to a 254 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: kid's future. I hope they think the Oilers were the 255 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: coolest team in the NFL, but I don't think it's 256 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: going to make a difference. And if they don't, then 257 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: I don't think that's really a position I should be 258 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: taken up. So I asked a question, why is it 259 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: important that kids learn cursive? I don't disagree, but let's 260 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: ask questions. And I keep getting emails from people saying 261 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: they have to be able to read the founding documents. 262 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: I got ten emails to that effect in the first break, 263 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: Can you honestly tell me? 264 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Ramon, I'll ask you what you to be honest? 265 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: Have you read the Declaration of Independence in the original cursive? No, 266 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: you haven't, and you're a history buff and I'm going 267 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: to tell you something else. And people don't want to 268 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: hear this. Nobody has. When I say nobody, it's a 269 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: rounding error because it's less than one percent. Oh no, no, no, 270 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: You've looked at the document during a ken Burn's documentary 271 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: when they scrolled across the screen. You've seen pictures of it, 272 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: and you know you've seen the couple of the letters. 273 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: Because if you've actually read it, you should be able 274 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: to tell me which letters that we use today were 275 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: not used as such in the original. Let's just take 276 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence, because people tell me that's important 277 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: because they don't use the exact spelling. 278 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: There are certain. 279 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: Letters we use today that they did not use in 280 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: that form at that time, and you don't know that. 281 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: Do you know why you don't know that because you 282 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: didn't read that in cursive. It's also very hard to 283 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: read their script because they have a very flowing, languid 284 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: style of writing. 285 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: So what happened? 286 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: Somebody typed that up? You know what typing is. It's print. 287 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: It's easier to read. There's a reason you don't read 288 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: books in cursive. 289 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Now. I know we're all. 290 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Supposed to say I miss cursed if I miss cursing, but. 291 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: I think that's people. 292 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: Some people are saying, if the old documents are the 293 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: reason you're not reading an old documents, curse, I guarantee 294 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: you I've got. 295 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Nothing going on down there. Probably you know what strikes me. 296 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: It's a little disappointing, but it strikes me as interesting 297 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: how many people get angry if you simply question someone. 298 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: My favorite chocolate that is where I went to school? 299 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: Is it? Yes? What were you saying, I don't my 300 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: favorite food is chocolate? Really? Is it? 301 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 6: Well? 302 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, why would it be? Is it? 303 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: That's that's all as the English was, is it? It's 304 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: almost like Okay, So Ramon start asking me questions during 305 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: the break and said, you should tell that on the air. 306 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: That's interesting, and I said, I think it's boring, but 307 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell it on the air anyway. So people keep 308 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: emailing me, Oh cool, the kids have to learn cursive 309 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: so they can read the original documents. Okay, I'm going 310 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: to buy in on that. Look, I think they should 311 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: learn cursive to preserve history. I just want to be 312 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: very clear what we're saying and what we're not if 313 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: it's I think certain aspects of history should be preserved. 314 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: An earn remains a monument, but I think it's important 315 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: to understand that we're preserving them out of vanity, out 316 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: of tradition, and those things are also important. 317 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: Rituals are preserved. We present of some. 318 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: Rituals solely because they are a ritual. They are a 319 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: direct connection to the past that we must not be broken. 320 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: It must remain unbroken. I don't know why, because it's important. 321 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: It's who we are, it's our identity. But I do 322 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: find it interesting how many people say they gotta be 323 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: outad it old documents which ones declorates independence. 324 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Okay, have you read it incursive in the original script? 325 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: I have? 326 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: You haven't. 327 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: I guarantee you haven't. Okay, if you have, what did 328 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: you notice it was odd about it? There's a letter 329 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: used there that we don't use. We haven't used in forever. 330 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 2: I think the Broadside Dictionary still use. Nobody else uses it. 331 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: You've never seen this letter written. There is a letter 332 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: very prominent in there. And not only is it very prominent, 333 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: it extends above the other lower case letters and below 334 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: the lower case letters. It screams out, look at me, 335 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: look at me. I'm the dork that goes and looks 336 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: at this document. That's not a humble brag. That is 337 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: to tell you that nobody else does. It's weird. Nobody does. 338 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: The words are so established in print so many times 339 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: and unquestioned for two hundred and fifty years. Nobody is going. 340 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Nobody is saying, well, you're gonna have life in liberty. 341 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: But that's all we're giving you. 342 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: No, we get to have happiness too. 343 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: Which was supposed to be prosperity. By the way, in 344 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: the original it was incursive. We won't happiness too, No, doctor, 345 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: Rice of Independence doesn't grant you happiness, just life and liberty. 346 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: It does, I swear it does. Show me. 347 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: Let me go get my cursive copy. Well, it says 348 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: right here, just life and liberty. It's printed out full stop. 349 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: There's no happiness. 350 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, y'all change the words on us. 351 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: We got an original incursive somewheres and it said happiness. 352 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure it said it. Nope, this is a document. 353 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: It's not even questioned. No one is questioning those documents 354 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: that were written in cursive. But you have only ever 355 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: read in print. I guarantee you you've only ever read 356 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: them in print. And I'll give you an example. There 357 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: is something that our history nerds in the crowd will 358 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: know is called a long s so little quirk. 359 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: And this is why I told you, Ramona. It's no 360 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: point in me telling a story. It's very boring. 361 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: But I'm going to tell you because you pissed me off. 362 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: So Originally incursive, the letter S would only ever appear 363 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: at the end of a word. The letter S in 364 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: the middle or at the beginning of a word. Lower 365 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: case would never appear as an S. 366 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: It was. 367 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: It would appear as an F. Follow me on the 368 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: F an F that had a big curly cue at 369 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: the top, like a like a cane. Right, you were 370 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: holding a cane, and so it goes straight up and 371 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: it would arc over to the right, and it would 372 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: come all the way down and it would arc to 373 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: the left and curl back up, kind of look like 374 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: a sea horse. 375 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so that F is not actually an F. 376 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: And the difference is when you crossed that F in 377 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: the middle, you would only cross it to. 378 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: The to the main of the F. You wouldn't go across. 379 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 2: And that was known in the printing industry as a 380 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: long S. It would stand out because it was taller 381 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: than the other letters and went lower than the other letters, 382 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: and that distinguished it because an S could only be 383 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: used at the end of a word. If you read 384 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: the word congress in the original Constitution, you will notice 385 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: that it looks like con gr E F S. 386 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: It looks like congress. 387 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: If you don't know that because it is so wriking 388 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: the first time you read it, then you didn't read 389 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: the Constitution incursive. And I'm not trying to be the 390 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: nerd on the front row. I'm simply pointing out there 391 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: are many, many people who haven't learned cursive who have 392 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: performed just fine. Example, calligraphy died off. I don't do calligraphy. 393 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. It'd be a thing I think 394 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: we should we should preserve. Okay, there are dead languages, 395 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate that there are dead languages for which 396 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: we've lost the ability to read the great texts. Because 397 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: the language itself, not the manner of writing it, not 398 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: the manner of conveying it. That's different. Nobody is suggesting 399 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: we're losing English. I'm not saying we shouldn't learn cursive. 400 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, don't repeat something you heard other people 401 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: say because some Fox News hosts had a segment on 402 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: it and you. 403 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: Thought, yeah, we got bail to read a decoration. 404 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: The Declaration in the same way that every other American 405 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: reads it, and that is printed out or on a screen. 406 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: There's so many of those quirks, so many things that 407 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: we never read. 408 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: I've read I don't know how much by Adam Smith, 409 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: but never in his handwriting. You go to Monticello and 410 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: you see Jefferson's writing. Jefferson had the first Xerox machine. 411 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: It was a contraption where when you wrote, there was 412 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: a rod that came up and went over and went down, 413 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: and it mirrored the page there. So whatever he wrote, 414 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: he had a duplicate copy of brilliant. And so you 415 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: sit there and you read it to see how close 416 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: is that to the original, and you go, I can't tell, 417 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: because I can't read what he's writing. I don't think 418 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm smarter than the average bear, but I don't think 419 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: i'm dumber. You go, try to read the journals of 420 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: Thomas Jefferson. 421 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. It's like a doctor's writing. 422 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: Now they could because in the time they wrote in 423 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: this style. We've lost forms of cursive over two and 424 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: a half centuries. I don't know why I allowed myself 425 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: to be pushed into a corner as some person standing 426 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: on the principle of nobody reads cursive. I think because 427 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: I can't stand for arguments to be repeated without any 428 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: thought given to it because someone else said it and 429 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: nobody ever stops to give it thought. But I am 430 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: for teaching cursive, and my kids do write and read cursive. 431 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: I just think you can survive just fine without it 432 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: going forward, and I'll leave that at that. I could 433 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: have just said that, and then you aggravated me during 434 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: the break, and then I got out there and I 435 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: got a bunch of old ladies going. I'm not sure 436 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna listen to Michael Berry anymore. I thought he 437 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: was on our team. You know, he wasn't for Trump 438 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: at the beginning. I remember, he wasn't for Trump. He's 439 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: come around, but you know, now he's over there. Shoot, 440 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: he's he don't even walk no more. I don't know 441 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: what he thinks. He wasn't for Trump. Remember he talked 442 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: about him. He was, and now he's over there. We 443 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: don't need cursive. You've got some upside down f I 444 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: don't give a damn. 445 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: I learned curs. If you aws. 446 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: Michael Berry's formalware, we have all your formal wear needs, 447 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: from morning suits to coordinating accessories. The best explanation I 448 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 2: have heard, and it comes from a law man friend 449 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: of mine. 450 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: I didn't see. 451 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: Cursive is important zar because it strengthens cognitive development, It 452 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: enhances fine motor skills for kids, and it boosts their 453 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: overall literacy. I'm not sure that's even true, but that's 454 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: very impressive. That's an actual reason. It just makes me 455 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: crazy when people say things without any iteration for what 456 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: they say in never having thought about it, and then 457 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: you challenge it and they pitch a fit. 458 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: Got to be. 459 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: Able to read the declaration is the lamest answer ever. 460 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: You don't care about the declaration? Well if reading the 461 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: Declaration of Independence incursive is how you prove whether you 462 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: care about the declaration. You don't care about the declaration 463 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: because you've not read it incursive, and I'm willing to 464 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: go on the It's one of those things like cow 465 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: tippin or any number of other things that people will 466 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: say they've done. And when you really get down to it, well, yeah, 467 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: maybe yes, Like why you love water burger it's right there. 468 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: Tell me something that you love about where you live? 469 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: What a burger? Okay, great, tell me about it right now? Yeah, 470 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: all right, you know, just tell me about it. You're 471 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: gonna wa burger bend. Oh it's the best. What makes 472 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: it the best? Wherever you are there's a burger? Yeah, 473 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: it's always right there. Okay? And then when you get there, 474 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: what do you like about it? 475 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: What do you got? 476 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: Whatever you want? You could order whatever you want. Then right. 477 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of places like that. 478 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 4: So let's say there's a McDonald's, a Burger King, a Sonic, 479 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: and a Waterburger all lined up. 480 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Which one do you go to? Right? Right? Why? 481 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Okay, here's another one I can respect because this is 482 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: an honest answer. I favored cursif out of my own 483 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: enjoyment of its conveyance of personality and uniqueness. I also 484 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: believe it has become a comical way to communicate openly 485 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: among younger code workers, like a secret code. One of 486 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: Cursiff's flaws is also its benefit. I've observed the preferred 487 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: usage of cursif amongst individuals who have poor spell They 488 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: can scribble the first two and last two letters and 489 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: everything in between is their unique penmanship. If you cannot 490 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: admit you have done that in your life, you know 491 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: what that's the equivalent of in the gird dun DUNDI, yeah, baby, 492 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: How many songs do we not know all the words? 493 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: There's a little girl in our neighborhood, turn to Johnson. 494 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: And good good good, yeah, uh had go see. 495 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: A done and none and none and over to. 496 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: The brother was making chicken in the frying pot, and 497 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: her grandma. 498 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: Was that is what that is? Cursive allows you that, 499 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Wright. 500 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did hear from a lot of mommies that 501 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: their kids have uh dysgraphia and dyslexia, and apparently cursive 502 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: helps with that, which is cool. 503 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I like that. I don't deny it. I don't know 504 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: one way or another. 505 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 2: The most surprising, I guess not surprising because we've had 506 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: this conversation before. 507 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Chad Nakanishi is an enigma. 508 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: He's a fascinating cat because his brain processor because half Japanese, is. 509 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: Really really good. 510 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: He's really really smart, but his spelling is really really bad. 511 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: And it's a running joke. And he's the first to 512 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: tell you. He said, I can't read cursive. So the 513 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: problem I've come across is that I love to pull 514 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: and collect my family history. However, when I pull old 515 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: family histories like my great grandparents' marriage license below which 516 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: he's attached, I have to ask one of my sisters 517 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: to quote unquote translate some of the cursive. Not saying 518 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: kids shoot or shouldn't learn cursive, but it is one 519 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: of my personal struggles. Even the Census is incursive. By 520 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: the way, several of you mentioned the Census and you 521 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to read the census credit to you. 522 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I thought that was an interesting one. 523 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: This is the nineteen forty census of my great grandparents 524 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: and their kids. It's especially confusing to me because I 525 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: knew them all by their generic American names Janet, Mildred, Thomas, Norman, Pauline, Robert, 526 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: and Earl, but their legal Japanese names are listed in 527 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: the census, which I've had to learn thanks to help translating. 528 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: I love these conversations. 529 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating, just. 530 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: Fascinating, how we retain records, how we go back and 531 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: access those records, because they're not just records. They're not 532 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: just writing on a paper. They're who we are. They 533 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: are our DNA. That's not just a name on a paper, 534 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: that is our DNA. You know, Sandy Peterson's making a 535 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: sour dough bread. She might have already made it, and 536 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: she said that the whatever you call it, the cure, 537 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: the whatever, the seedling of it, you know, when you 538 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: get to Sardo brand and you bring it home, it's whatever. 539 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: That little clump of it that it is is two 540 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years old. I don't know where she 541 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: found it. I mean, you think about, you know, you 542 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: propagate a flower with you propagated tree. You think about, 543 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: you know how an animal passes one to the next, 544 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: to the next to the next, and in three hundred 545 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: years this is the lineage. That's some deep stuff, man, 546 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: that's really really deep stuff. And that these are the 547 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: documents you access to get there. I find that to 548 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: be very cool. All right, you folks have to be 549 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: fast so I can get all of you on. So 550 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: what is the thing they don't teach in school that 551 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: they should? I think this is handwriting because it's all women. See, 552 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: you can tell topics by sex. Men are like handwriting, 553 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: dumb ass, Just learn cursive. Women are going but dyslexia 554 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: and dysgraphia and the census because ninety eight point six 555 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: percent of people who do ancestry studies are women. Teresa, 556 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: go ahead, Hi, Michael, Okay, what should they teach that 557 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: they're not teaching? 558 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead, sweetheart. 559 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: Well, I still believe in teaching writing by script because 560 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: it strengthens the eye and brain connection and it creates 561 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 6: neural pathways for your brain. 562 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: So you're second or third or tenth person to say that, 563 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: how do you know that. 564 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: I read it? About twenty years ago. 565 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: I have. 566 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 6: No I read it in a printed book. 567 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: Are you teach? 568 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 6: Pardon me? 569 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: Are you a former teacher? 570 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: No, I'm a nurse. 571 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 6: Nurse okay, but I did homeschool my kids a couple 572 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: of times, like different My different children had different problems 573 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 6: in school, and just to sort of assist them, I 574 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 6: went homeschool them. And where we lived in Canada, they 575 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 6: had a great provincial system where they could give you 576 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 6: all the materials for the curriculum that year, and so 577 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 6: basically it was all pre set, pre done. 578 00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: You know. 579 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 6: You took the ages at the beginning of the week 580 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 6: out of the big binder, put them in the smaller binders, 581 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 6: and that's all they have to do for that day. 582 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: I miss binders. I still use binders. I have binders 583 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: all around me. I have tabs. They're all marked off, 584 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: and people will say to me, you can put all 585 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: that on the computer. 586 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I love binders. I love flipping 587 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: through binders. 588 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: My show sponsors for each letter of the alphabet I have. 589 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: You know AA is Allied Siding, and you know windows 590 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: and Allied Custom Roofing and all Star Construction and Allied 591 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 2: Outdoors and then you know, you go to B and 592 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: you go to C and you and I enjoy turning 593 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: the pages like a I don't know. It's a connection 594 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: to the past and it's tactile. I can touch it, 595 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: I can turn it. I'm looking at my screen. I've 596 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: received over three hundred emails on cursy fascin