1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: We did it. It was a group effort. We made 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: it to a Friday, and yes it is a meet Friday. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: The sun is out, morale is high, and the triggers 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: are on. They're heating up. We have Dominican style roast 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: pork shoulder, we have rice and beans. We have Baja 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: fish tacos. Who has it better than we do? No 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: Lody body. The big story the Giant's upsetting the Eagles. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Three touchdowns for Cam Skataboo. And I go back to 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: the draft. Now, if you follow the show, you know 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: that I was high on Jackson Dark. My source said 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: that he had a first first round great on him. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: I got to see him probably play three or four 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: full games at Ole Miss, and I liked what I saw. 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: He had mobility, and you're playing for Lane Kiffin. Lane 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Kiffin is a offensive minded head coach. He certainly has 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: a lot of swagger at that position. Transfer in from 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: USC and then Cam Skataboo, who we got to see 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: kind of late in his career and you got to 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: see something that we thought was really special, different, interesting, 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: But I didn't know if he was going to be 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: maybe too slow or too limited to play at this level. 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: I do know if the ball's on the one or 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: two yard line, I know who's getting it. But with 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Carter not in there, last night, they ran right 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: up the middle and Scataboo had three touchdowns. By the way, 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: the last Giant to have three touchdowns in a game 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. That was also in his rookie season. But surprise, surprise, 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: and you know you're seeing something. And granted it's the 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: embryonic stages here with the Giants, but we talked about this. 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: They were going to stay with Russell, and they were 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: going to stay with him for maybe a month, and 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: then you were going to ease into Jackson Dart because 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: if you ease into Jackson Dart, now, if you have success, 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: if ownership looks at this and says, maybe we have 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: something here, let's not make a change at the head coach, 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: coaching position or the GM and that might be what 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: happened or happens. I know that when we looked at Russ, 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: I thought maybe they were gonna play Russ longer than 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: they should. But maybe they thought we got to win games, 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: because if we don't win games. With this schedule, we 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: won't make it to the second half of the season. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Now you have something interesting there and maybe maybe Jackson 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: Dart will save Brian Daball's career. Also Joe Shane the 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: GM And maybe they were reaches, you know, maybe it 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: was a reach in the first round for Jackson Dart, 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: maybe Cam Scautaboo of fourth round draft pick. You weren't 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: quite sure. But you have hope. And they don't have 50 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: any weapons on offense. I mean, I'm looking at the 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: wide receivers and I go, huh who. But they somehow 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: made something happen last night. And the only thing that 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: I would say is, Jackson Dart, I love your mobility, 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: but I want you to continue to have mobility. Slide. 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: Don't take on DBS. Nobody cares. You don't have to 56 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: be a tough guy. Slide slide because all it takes 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: is you. And you got nicked up and they put 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: him in the concussion tent. But that's where Brian Dabele, 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: the head coach, is right outside. It's almost like, come on, 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: let's go, you're good, come on, here we go. And 61 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Jackson Dart comes back out and 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I guess he passed a concussion protocol. 63 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: But his head coach, Brian Dable, talked about Jackson Dart's performance. 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Good team win. 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: That's a division team on the road or at home, 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: should I say home? Crowd was awesome, but we got 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: to give him a reason to be awesome too. So 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: another good game by a rookie quarterback, but another good 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: game from everybody around him. And that's where we need it. 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's not about one guy, it's about a team. 71 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Two turnovers on defense, very good third down execution on offense, 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: rand the ball well, finish the game. It's good to 73 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: have a young leader like Dart. 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe a little more emotion, a little more enthusiasm there, Brian, 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: you might have saved your job. Stat of the Day 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: of the program. First Hour brought to you by Maco. 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: I've had a little TLC for your car. Affordable paint 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: joms like collision repairs. Get a free estimate today, Oh 80 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: better get Maco all right? Eight seven to seven to 81 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: three DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: phone calls. We'll recap the baseball and the Dodgers made 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: it interesting. Great pitching last night, that was fun, fun 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: to watch. And here is the final call of the 85 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: Dodgers moving on to the NLCS. Heart rates through the room, 86 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: the O one pitch, PAHs grounds it. 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: Back to Kirky. He can't find it. 88 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: He does Home's what Tim scores, and the Dodgers are 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 4: going to the Championship Series. Fire Works go off in 90 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: center field. The Dodgers celebrate your first base on a 91 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: dround ball back to the pitcher. Andy Potz somehow gets 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: the job done. 93 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: That's courtesy of a five seventy only sports Dodgers radio network. 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: So you got bases loaded to come back to back 95 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: or to crookering and he is looking to make a 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: play at home and he doesn't have to. He can 97 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: go to first and get the out. But he pauses 98 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: and it's almost as if he took his eye off 99 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: the ball and the glove, you know, his glove and 100 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: the batter, and he got lost. He got caught in 101 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: no man's land. Kim scores. Kim actually missed home plate 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: and then came back and touched home plate. But a 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: while and we were talking about the worst way to lose, 104 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: and it's a walk off air and that's what happened. 105 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Here is Bob Thompson, the Phillies manager, on what he 106 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: said to his pitcher after the loss. 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: Rob obviously a heartbreaking way to lose. 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 6: Quickly had a long conversation with Oryan coming off the field. 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 6: Do you want to share little what you told him? 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 6: Just to keep his heat up? And he just got 111 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 6: caught up in the moment a little bit coming down 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 6: the stretcher. 113 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: He pitched so well for us. 114 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 6: I feel for him because he's he's putting it all 115 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: on his shoulders. But we went as a team and 116 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 6: we lose as a teams. 117 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: I couldn't help but think of spring training because if 118 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: you've ever gone to spring training and you get there early, 119 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: not for a game, but just when they're doing drills. 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: One of the first drills you do is that you 121 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: have a comebacker to the picture and then he throws 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: to first base. I mean, these are really menial task 123 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: that you're doing as a pitcher. It's like, okay, you 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: got it, comebacker, and then you throw over to first base, 125 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: and then the next picture comes in, the next picture 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: comes in. It's all just everybody's doing the same repetition here, 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: and you know, you kind of put yourself on automatic 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: pilot until you're in a moment when the season is 129 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: on the line and a comebacker. And really you were 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: prepared to make the play at first base because your 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: body was squared up to home plate to get the ball. 132 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: You don't have to try to get the play at 133 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: the at home plate, get the out at first base, 134 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: had plenty of time to do so. But in these moments, 135 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: and I don't know if somebody says, hey, if it 136 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: comes back to you, you got the easy out at 137 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: first base. These are little things. And your catcher is 138 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: pointing to first base like that's the play, and then 139 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: he throws home and the catcher is you know, it 140 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: was wide. He had no chance there, but your catcher 141 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: is going throw it first, and all of a sudden 142 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: he's throwing at home and then it was too late. 143 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 7: Yes, ton as unforgivable as it may seem. And you 144 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 7: learn that in the little league and all that kind 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 7: of stuff. In the moment, in your preferal vision, when 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 7: the season and the it's all on the line and 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 7: you see that runner right in front of you coming home, 148 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 7: I can in. 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: That's what second. 150 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 7: And I can understand, like, I gotta get this right, 151 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 7: it's right. 152 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 5: In front of me. 153 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 7: I gotta flip it to the catcher for the tag. 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 7: And that's just you know, he deserves the criticism and 155 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 7: it sucks at this season ended like that. But I 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 7: can understand somehow that you thought, let me get him 157 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 7: at home. I'm not sure if I could make the 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 7: throw at first, how far down the runner is, and 159 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 7: I got this right. 160 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: In front of me. 161 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 8: Happened? 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: If the catcher's pointing to first base, that's your indicator. 163 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: But the catcher should be saying and reminding him, hey, 164 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: come backer, you got the easy out at first. I mean, 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: this is all baseball one oh one. It's not hindsight. 166 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: It's just baseball one oh one. Get the out of first, 167 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: that's all. You don't have to try to, you know, 168 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: because to play at home, I know you're gonna get 169 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: a force, but you still got to make sure you 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: get the right throw. I was surprised Kim didn't slide 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: because I would have gone in there and made it 172 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: even tougher for the catcher, and he didn't. Maybe he 173 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: was shocked that they were coming home instead. Of going 174 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: to first. But the Dodgers advanced to the NLCS. They'll 175 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: wait for the winner of the Brewers and the Cubs. 176 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin, Yeah, you remember in Little league when the 177 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 9: catcher would go, hey, two outs, plays till wherever plays 178 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 9: the first. That's probably what they should have done, because 179 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 9: he knew right then and there. I think he got 180 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 9: caught up in he saw the runner going home as 181 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 9: soon as he bobbled the ball. That was the first thing. 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 9: He bobbled the ball, and he looked up and he panicked, 183 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 9: and he saw the guy ready to score. I don't 184 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 9: even think he was looking towards first base attle or 185 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 9: the catcher. 186 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know in that kind of I guess situation 187 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: where you're thinking, boy, if he scores, then we lose. Well, 188 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: his run doesn't count if you get the out at first. 189 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: And that's where you just remind, you remind that's all. 190 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean. That's why there's a scoreboard out there that 191 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: tells you how many outs. But what happens, you know, 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: you get one out and shortstop and go all right, 193 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: one down, one down, you know, everybody holding up two down, 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: two down. I was just surprised that, and maybe they 195 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: did that. Hey, the easy out go to first, that's 196 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: where we want to go. 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, as soon as you bobble that ball, everything 198 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 10: he just said went out the window. Yes, as soon 199 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 10: as you bobble the ball, he panicked and through the 200 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 10: ball to the wrong place, even looking at his catcher. 201 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 9: Who was pointing to first. 202 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 10: He's still threw it at the catcher because you panic. 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Paulin. 204 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 11: And the most cruel thing about baseball is he's standing 205 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 11: there on the mound after the play and the Dodgers 206 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 11: are celebrating around him. He can't escape. He's got to 207 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 11: walk off casually. 208 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: That's tough. 209 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: For over forty years, tire Rack's been helping you find 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: the right tires for how and what and where you drive. 211 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: Ship fast and free, free road hazard protection mobile tire 212 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: installations available tirerack dot com. The way tire buying should be. 213 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: We'll get to your phone calls on this Friday Seaton. 214 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: What's poll question for the first hour of the program, 215 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: Worst Night Phillies Eagles. Well, Philly's because the season's over. 216 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, but the Eagles got cooked by a horrible Giants 217 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 10: team rival. 218 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but terrible. The Eagles don't have to reinvent themselves. 219 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: They have to rediscover themselves, and I think they've kind 220 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: of lost who they are. What's their identity? You're throwing 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: the ball an awful lot. You went away from Saquon 222 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: Barkley in the second half of the game. And I 223 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: give the Giants credit. They played and like this game 224 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: really meant something to them. Playing at home. Jackson Dark 225 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: played well, the defense played well, but I would say 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: the Phillies because the season is over. The Eagles we 227 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: got a long way to go. 228 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, Saquan opened the game just ripping off two monster runs. 229 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 10: It's like, Okay, here we go. This is going to 230 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 10: be the game plan for to do this. You know, 231 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 10: lather rints repeat for the rest of the night, and 232 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 10: you you're walking away with an easy dub here. 233 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: And you know, the Giant situation, that momentum at a 234 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: home and I wondered, you know, are they going to 235 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: have that home field advantage being a seven point underdog, 236 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: And it felt like that. Although I felt bad for 237 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson he came in for one play in the 238 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: fans bood. Come on, I'd say you're better than that, 239 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: but I don't know if you are. I mean it's 240 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Russ is not going in there to try to face 241 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: the ball was tipped that he threw, and then you know, 242 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: you boo him. 243 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 7: What are you bulling him for? 244 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: What the heck? 245 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but but you have 246 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,479 Speaker 2: something with Jackson Dark. He at least keeps them interesting, 247 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: keeps them relevant. That that he is a watchable performer. 248 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: And Skataboo is not afraid of anybody. You know, I 249 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: don't know if he's going to be a good running back, 250 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: but boy, he he runs like you just said something 251 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: about his family. He's he's going after he runs angry. 252 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: It's it's like somebody's gonna hurt This is gonna hurt me, 253 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: but it's going to hurt you more. And that's when 254 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: when I watch him, there's a combination of Marshawn Lynch 255 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: and Larry Zonka when I when I watch him, it's 256 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm taking on contact and this is going to hurt 257 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: you more than it's going to hurt me. 258 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, Paul, I'm looking at Skataboo's draft profile five nine 259 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 11: and a half two hundred and twenty pounds, and the 260 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 11: only criticisms were breakaway speed, cutting ability, the basics, but 261 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 11: they include that he runs like a maniac. He actually 262 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 11: says maniac. 263 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: Da sorry, sorry, ahead, yah, go ahead. 264 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 10: The Giants do kind of have something with that tandem, 265 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 10: though they both have for what is essentially like a 266 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 10: swagless team. 267 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 268 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 10: Those two fellas have a little bit of it where 269 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 10: it's like, man, we might be able to build around this. 270 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 271 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 11: Well, Seaton is referencing the hope Meter, which we unveiled 272 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 11: at this time last year, and right now the New 273 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 11: York Giants are high on the hope meter, not high 274 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 11: on the chance to make the playoffs meter. There's two 275 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 11: different things, hopometer, the hopometer, the hopometer or the hopometer, 276 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 11: whichever the hope meter the hopometer is depending where you're from. 277 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: By the way, we'll have the most must win game 278 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: of the weekend coming up a little bit later on 279 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: Interesting College Football Weekend, Great College Football Weekend, and Ohio State, Illinois, Bama, Missouri, Indiana, Oregon, OU, Texas, 280 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: Florida A and M Florida versus Texas A and M 281 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: Michigan USC This one, to me, I think it's must 282 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: see TV because USC As Michigan, then Notre Dame and 283 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: later in the season they have Oregon. So if this 284 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: is two thousand and four and USC is four and one, 285 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: they're ranked in the top ten. They're not ranked. They're 286 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: four and one. That's how far they've fallen and still 287 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: waiting for the end. You have the tough loss at Illinois, 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: but this is a you better win at home against Michigan, 289 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: and then you got Notre Dame at Notre Dame and 290 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: a little bit later on Oregon. 291 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 292 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 293 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. 294 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 12: He's Mike Krmen, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a brand 295 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 12: new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. 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That'll be at 313 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: eight twenty eastern. Devin, thanks for joining us. Let's quick 314 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: turnaround from doing the game last night. At what point 315 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: did you realize the Giants were going to give the 316 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Eagles everything they could handle. 317 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 8: I could tell a pregame just walking the field and 318 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 8: talking to different people. You know, the Eagles there was 319 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: a sense of, I don't want to say concern, but 320 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 8: they seemed like the team that felt all the pressure. 321 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 8: They were kind of on edge. Whereas when I walked 322 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 8: and talked to some of the Giants people, they. 323 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 5: Weren't concerned about last week's performance. 324 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 8: They said, dart one interception was in the fourth quarter, 325 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 8: I mean on a fourth down. 326 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 5: The other one to receiver bowl Collin Stop. 327 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 8: They were confident, and one of the guys told me, 328 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 8: I think we can get this one and for our team, 329 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 8: we need to get this win, and they played like it. 330 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: Okay, is this more about the Giants or more about 331 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: the Eagles? 332 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 8: Oh, it's definitely more about the Eagles. The Eagles are 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 8: better football team than the Giants. But what you saw 334 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 8: was a team that. 335 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: Got out coached and out played last night. 336 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: Brian Dable and Shane Bowen came in with good plans 337 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 8: offensively and defensively, and the Eagles never adjusted. But that's 338 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 8: what we've said the beginning part of this season. There's 339 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 8: no adjustments. They play well for a half and then 340 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 8: it all goals and you get nothing in the second half. 341 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: And the same thing happened last night. 342 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Have you ever tackled somebody like Cam Skataboo. 343 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 8: I mean, Marshawn Lynch was a guy that, you know, 344 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 8: as crazy as Skataboo, as I still would rather tackle 345 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 8: him than Marshawn Lynch. 346 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: What was it? 347 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 5: You know? 348 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: At that experience of tackling Marshaun Lynch was like what. 349 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 5: I'll never forget. 350 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 8: We're in Super Bowl forty nine and I had to 351 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 8: deal with the linebackers. I'll be there to support him 352 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 8: on any coverage, just so let Marshawn Lynch get to 353 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 8: me untouched. 354 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: And we get to that point in the game. 355 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 8: He gets to me untouched and I'm in the open 356 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 8: field and we've all seen his highlights of stiff arming people, 357 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 8: juking people, and I'm thinking, just get him to the ground, 358 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 8: and I get it there. 359 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: I hit him. 360 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 8: My head bounces back, but I tackle him. He stands 361 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 8: up and he just stares at me. 362 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 5: Has his black voji. 363 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 8: You can't see his eyes, and he puts his hand 364 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 8: out and shakes my hand, almost. 365 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: As if he was in disbelief that I got him down. 366 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 8: And I was like, you know what, of all things 367 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 8: I've done in life, I can say I tackle marsh. 368 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 5: Listen to open field and be happy about it. 369 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: Do you guys practice the Malcolm Butler interception that play. 370 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 8: Yep, where it was a Friday practice. He wasn't getting 371 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 8: a lot of reps at this point in the season. 372 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 8: He gets in, they run. 373 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 5: Not in the same spot, but it's that same kind 374 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: of pick play. 375 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 8: He gets beat on a touchdown, and anybody that's ever 376 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 8: heard about Bill Belichick, Bill rips him the next day 377 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 8: while we're watching film. So when Malcolm got in, I 378 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 8: think that was the only play he was going to 379 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 8: guard against to stop right. 380 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: There was there any thought that Marshawn Lynch was going 381 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: to get this ball. 382 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 8: There was a lot of thought. We went all goal line, 383 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 8: all big people. We only had three corners on the 384 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 8: field and their job was to stop. 385 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: Any kind of pass. 386 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 8: No help anywhere because everybody else was all elther a. 387 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: Guys were playing against the run, but. 388 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: He runs for Was there any thought of letting them 389 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: score so Tom could get the ball back with some 390 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: time on the clock. 391 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 8: I know I thought about that because I had played 392 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 8: in Super Bowl forty six where that happened, and we 393 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 8: had a play where we let am Brasshaw score, but 394 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 8: once we didn't call time out on the clock kept 395 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 8: dwindling down. I kind of looked up and was like, 396 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 8: we don't have time to let them score now, because 397 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 8: even if we get the ball back won't be enough 398 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 8: time to win the game. 399 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 5: So, yeah, it was a lot of thoughts. 400 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 8: I don't know if other guys was, but I vividly 401 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 8: remember that because of the Super Bowl prior. 402 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: All right, given what happened with the Eagles last night. 403 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: Who's the favorite in the NFC? 404 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 8: I think right now you got to go with Detroit. 405 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 8: I think they're a team coming back from last year. 406 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 8: They've gotten in their groove. It feels like they're playing 407 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 8: better ball. Their coordinators, I think, are settling in and 408 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 8: they're getting to know exactly what this team is going 409 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 8: to be good at and what they're not going to 410 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 8: be good at, and they're playing to it. 411 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 5: So I would definitely go to Detroit Lions. 412 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: And I look at the Eagles offense and I'm just 413 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: there's a disconnect there. I don't know what it is. 414 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: And I mentioned last hour they need to kind of rediscover, 415 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: not reinvent anything. But how do you go from having 416 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: a they got a great tight end, you got really 417 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: good receivers, You've got Saquon Barkley. Maybe the offensive line 418 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: still banged up. It's still like accidentally they should be 419 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: ab to score thirty points a game. 420 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 8: I mean, and danis on both sides of the ball. 421 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 8: I think they've gotten so used to coming out and saying, hey, 422 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 8: good job, we got the best players in the league. 423 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 8: We're just gonna do what we do. And what happens 424 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 8: is when you win a Super Bowl that next year. 425 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 8: All off season, everyone's scouting you to figure out how 426 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 8: to beat you, and you're getting every team's best shot 427 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 8: and they're not ready for that. If you watch the game, 428 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 8: it's the same routes over and over again, same run plays, 429 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 8: over and over again. Defensively, Jackson Dark scrambles ten or 430 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 8: twelve times. They never change anything. They don't go with 431 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 8: a spy. It's just they think they're gonna figure it out, 432 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 8: and right now they're not figuring it out. And if 433 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 8: they don't, I think this season will continue to go downhill. 434 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: Is Tampa second in your power rankings in the NFC? 435 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 8: I would go Rams, then Tampa, But I like Baker Mayfel, 436 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 8: I like what the Bucks are doing. 437 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: My top four would probably be the Rams, Tampa and. 438 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: See, wait, Philadelphia is not in your top four. 439 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 8: I wouldn't say right now, not the way they're planning. 440 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 8: My issue with Philly. 441 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: Right now is three guys on your team have a meeting. 442 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 5: Three guys. Why are we talking about in the media. 443 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 8: I actually thought the way AJ Brown answered the question 444 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 8: after the game was the right way. I don't know 445 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 8: what meeting y'all are talking about. If we talk, we 446 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 8: don't need to discuss that. 447 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 5: We even had that conversation. 448 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 8: So they have a lot going on from an X 449 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 8: and O standpoint, But even outside of that, in the 450 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 8: locker room between the players and the coaches, it seems 451 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 8: like they got to fix some things. 452 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm talking to Devin mccordy won three Super Bowls with 453 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: the Patriots, But that next year, when you guys won 454 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowls, how did you hit the reset button or 455 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, try to fight off what the Eagles are 456 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: going through. 457 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the guys in the locker room. 458 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 8: It was if we did have to have a conversation, 459 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 8: we all knew and a lot of that came from 460 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 8: our head coach of whatever is discussed, whatever we're going 461 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: through internally, we don't need to go and talk about it. 462 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 5: I mean the super Bowl, our first won was super 463 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 5: Bowl forty nine. The flaygate was the hottest topic. Is 464 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: what everyone wanted to talk about. 465 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 8: If you go back and you listen to all our interviews, 466 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 8: none of us are diving into the balls being deflated 467 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 8: or what this means. It was We're focused on Seattle, 468 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 8: We're focused on trying to win a Super Bowl, and 469 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 8: I think that's all they need to do. But I 470 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 8: think they need to trust all the guys in that 471 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 8: building that they have the best guys to go win 472 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 8: another super Bowl, And I don't know if they feel 473 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 8: that way. Lane Johnson after the game were too predictable, 474 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 8: Sakwon Barkley says, We're not too predictable. 475 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: So like you have all of these. 476 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 8: Different kind of versions of what's going on, and no 477 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 8: one's kind of working together as symmetry. 478 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are the Lions coming up this weekend? How 479 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: big is this game for the Chiefs? You're at home 480 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: and you're still scuffling a little bit here in Detroit's 481 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: coming to town. 482 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean for the Chiefs, there's an excitement because 483 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 8: the last two weeks, this offense has looked like what 484 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 8: we've seen in the past, a lot of creativity, getting 485 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 8: the ball of different guys in space. 486 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 5: But on the other hand, the games you've. 487 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 8: Lost, it feels like your best players have been the 488 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 8: ones that have cast you. Whether it's Kelsey's drop against 489 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 8: the Eagles, whether it's Chris Jones going inside against the Chargers, 490 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 8: or this last game him not you know, finishing the player. 491 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 8: Dan Harrison Bunker kicking the ball out of bounds. So 492 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 8: I think for the Chiefs, they're like, how can we 493 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 8: put together a complete game with all our top players 494 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 8: and everybody on the same page. How can we do 495 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 8: that week after week after week? We did it against Baltimore, 496 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 8: but then Jacksonville we have a couple of plays that 497 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 8: we let slip through our hands. What better way than 498 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 8: to go against the Detroit Lions team that was gonna 499 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 8: come and try to punch you in the face for 500 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 8: four quarters of trying to go and do it. I 501 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 8: think that's what championship teams do. If the if the 502 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 8: Chiefs want to stay. 503 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: That way, what's it like when you're out and somebody's 504 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: really fast and you're and you have man cup, You're 505 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna have help, But what you know, Xavier Worthy, 506 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: it just kind of reinvigorate to the Chiefs offense. But 507 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 2: there are guys who are fast and then they are 508 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: guys who are really fast the difference. 509 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: Let's just stick with it. 510 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, let's stick with the Chiefs against playing against 511 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill all of those years, and a lot of 512 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 8: it had to do with, hey, he's really fast. We're 513 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 8: gonna put two guys on him twenty eighteen in the 514 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 8: AFC Championship, he had one catch for forty two yards because. 515 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: We double team them the whole game. 516 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 8: We had a guy outside, we had a guy inside, 517 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 8: a guy short, a guy deep, And it's understanding not 518 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 8: only that he's fast, but how the offense uses him. 519 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 8: Where's the Xavier Worthy lines up? Is he in the slot? 520 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 8: Is he outside? 521 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 5: Is he off the ball? Is he on the ball? 522 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 8: And then, knowing from your film study, how do they 523 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 8: get him the ball depending on where he's at. You 524 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 8: have to know those things if you want to have 525 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 8: some kind of advantage, especially when a guy's that fast, 526 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 8: he's gonna kill you athletically, you've got to be able 527 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 8: to match it mentally, to slow it down a little bit. 528 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: How close are you watching what's going on with Belichick 529 00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: at North Caro? 530 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 8: I actually, I actually just had a conversation with one 531 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 8: of my guys that are there and said they were 532 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 8: kind of caught off guard. Yes, that the game Saturday 533 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 8: didn't go well, But for what I was told was they. 534 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 5: Had a conversation. 535 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 8: Bill talked in the locker room to the team and 536 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 8: everyone walked away went like, man, it didn't go our way, 537 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 8: But what coach the message he just delivered there's some 538 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 8: hope going forward in this season. And that was Saturday 539 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 8: after the game, and then Monday, they just felt like 540 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 8: everything just hit him like a ton of bricks with 541 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 8: all of these articles and stories coming out, and that 542 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 8: one person told me there's no divide in the locker room. 543 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 8: There's no questions about whether Bill wants to be there 544 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 8: or not. So it's very confusing. And we laughed because 545 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 8: being in New England we saw so many different things, 546 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 8: and he said, I never imagine coming to u NC, 547 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 8: we get more coverage, more talked about, and more scrutinizing 548 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 8: any time, really being in New England. So it was 549 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 8: just a lot going on. 550 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: Over there right now. 551 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: And you probably have a lot of people rooting against Bill, 552 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: and you know, and we start to pile on it happens. 553 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: We build you up and then we tear you down, 554 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: and you know, it feels like they're not giving him 555 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: enough time. I guess we expected results because they labeled 556 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: themselves to thirty third team, so that's high expectations that 557 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: you come here and you'll be going to the NFL. 558 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: And maybe that's it that they're losing it's the way 559 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: they're losing, not that they're losing. 560 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 8: And I've been around coach Belichick for a long time. 561 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 8: He knows, and I'm sure he's telling that staff we 562 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 8: either win or we get fired. And he used to 563 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 8: preach that to us as a team. He used to 564 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 8: say as a coach, every day I come here, I'm 565 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 8: on an interview. If I don't perform, I'm going to 566 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 8: get fired. And it's the same thing for the players 567 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 8: when he was in NFL. If you don't do your job, 568 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 8: we get you out of here. 569 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: We find somebody else. 570 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 8: So even though I think, like you said, a lot 571 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 8: of people are rooting against them, they also know they 572 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 8: got to win some football games and they got to 573 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 8: be competitive or in this landscape, whether college or pro, 574 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 8: they get you out of there and they replace you 575 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 8: as soon. 576 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 5: As that happens. 577 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us. We 578 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: appreciate it, Devin. Have a good weekend you too, Dan. 579 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: Good talking to you, Devin mccordy. 580 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 581 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 582 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 583 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: listen live. 584 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: The situation with Bill Belichick at North Carolina. Pat Welter 585 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: has done a wonderful job. He's all over this story. 586 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: He's a sports anchor wr LTV in Raleigh, North Carolina. Pat, 587 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: how would you sum up what's happened the last couple 588 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: of days here with Bill Belichick and North Carolina football. 589 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 14: Yeah, Dan, it's an honor to be on with you 590 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 14: guys today. Happy birthday to Todd Fritz. And it's been 591 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 14: a whirlwind. 592 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 8: You know. 593 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 14: I felt like we were ready to break this story 594 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 14: as recently as Friday, Dan up before the club game, 595 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 14: and we made a decision to wait a couple more days, 596 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 14: and I think that was instrumental in allowing our reporting 597 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 14: to kind of start the avalanche of information that's come out. 598 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 14: You know, I was able to speak to a lot 599 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 14: of sources at the Clemson game, and that's when I 600 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 14: really knew I had something. Dan was when there was 601 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 14: sources I've had relationships with for years on this story, 602 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 14: but when I was just walking around meeting people with 603 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 14: direct knowledge of the program that I had no relationship with, 604 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 14: and they were immediately volunteering information to me, things like 605 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 14: from a parent, my son has no idea what's going on. 606 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: It is a complete mess. 607 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 14: So that's what we've reported, and we're seeing the fallout 608 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 14: of it since, and we're seeing you and C make 609 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 14: direct action after some of the things that have come out. 610 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 2: Okay, but where are we today with this story? 611 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 14: So yesterday, kind of the development was we're coming off 612 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 14: the statement. Right, we have this statement that comes out 613 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 14: late the night prior, and it's very brief, and it 614 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 14: comes from Bubba Cunningham and it comes from Bill Belichick, 615 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 14: basically saying Belichick's committed to UNC football and UNC athletics 616 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 14: is committed to him. And this was on the heels 617 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 14: and based on conversations I had yesterday with sources multiple 618 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 14: levels UNC decision makers. They wanted to call them the noise, 619 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 14: they wanted to call them what they referred to as rumors. 620 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 14: And those rumors were related to two four seven Tar 621 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 14: Hill Sports report about there being exit strategy conversations and 622 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 14: other reports of Bill Belichick looking to triggering his own contract. Now, 623 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 14: I spent basic all day on the phones trying to 624 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 14: run this down, and. 625 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: I think it's clear. 626 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 14: I think it's important to note that I was told 627 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 14: by multiple levels of UNC decision makers and my colleague 628 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 14: Brian Murphy that there were no exit strategy conversations, that 629 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 14: there were no conversations of Bill triggering his own buyout. 630 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 14: But I have to acknowledge right that that does not 631 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 14: mean necessarily that that did not happen. Like I'm not 632 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 14: in those rooms. These are what these people are telling me. 633 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 14: They're all telling me the same thing. So there's an 634 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 14: obligation I think to report it in fairness, But I 635 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 14: think you also have to acknowledge there's a gap there. 636 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 14: We can only know so much, and I respect Andrew 637 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 14: Jones who had that report, So I think you have 638 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 14: to just take the information and sort it out with 639 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 14: what you know and what you. 640 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: Want to believe. Is Bill Belichick coaching North Carolina against 641 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: Cal a week from Saturday. 642 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 14: I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I just 643 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 14: know that this is escalated day by day, and I 644 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 14: would say hour by hour to be quite literally, Dan, 645 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 14: minute by minute, I'll tell you. This morning, I sent 646 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 14: an email to unc Athletics trying to get confirmation of 647 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 14: a player to see if he was still with the program. 648 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 14: An hour later, the player I asked about has a 649 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 14: graphic ready to go on social media. This just broke 650 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 14: from running back Caleb Hood. After much thought, prayer and 651 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 14: discussion with my family, I've decided to retire from football. 652 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 14: Earn it. You and c has been special and I 653 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 14: appreciate my time here. You could look on social media 654 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 14: if you want to see that full statement. That is 655 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 14: the player I asked about because of a tip that 656 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 14: I got there. Ironic in a way, Dan, because this season, 657 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 14: if you remember that first game versus TCU, there was 658 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 14: that one moment where everyone all the hype, all the buzz, 659 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 14: which was so real, right, this was incredible. Carolina drives 660 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 14: down their first possession of the season, Caleb Hood scores 661 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 14: the touchdown, the place goes bonkers. Skip Bayless had some 662 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 14: tweet about it being amazing. I know, I was like, 663 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 14: this guy's Nick Saban. I'm like, he's gonna do it. 664 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 14: They're doing it, you know, and it has been downhill 665 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 14: ever since. And it's fitting poetry that I think now 666 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 14: Caleb Hood, after this week, is leaving the program, and 667 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 14: obviously I'm gonna look into more as to why, but 668 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 14: I think just kind of that paints a picture for 669 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 14: you where we're at. 670 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what role the media played in this 671 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: the national media in hyping this up. It's bebblecheck. It's 672 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: North Carolina, it's the ACC, it's not the SEC or 673 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Certainly win more than Mac Brown does. 674 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: When Mac would win six games, occasionally he'd win, you know, 675 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: a few more go to a Bowl game there. But 676 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: I locally, did you guys have the same expectations as 677 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: maybe the national media had on Bill Belichick. 678 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 14: Yeah, we're We're all complicit in this in a way, right, 679 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 14: And I really don't fault My point of my story 680 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 14: was never to fault the people that decided to hire 681 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 14: Bill Belichick. I think you could certainly make an argument 682 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 14: they should have vetted this more right, because they have 683 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 14: access to that information that nobody else has during their 684 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 14: hiring process. But yeah, I think we're all part of 685 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 14: the hype, you know, And how could you not be? 686 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 14: This is an incredible story. This is the story of 687 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 14: my lifetime. It's certainly the biggest thing I've ever covered. 688 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 14: And I grew up in New England. I'm from Londonderry, 689 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 14: New Hampshire. As a student at Emerson College, I got 690 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 14: to go to the Super Bowl versus the Giants. I 691 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 14: asked Bill Belichick a question at the Super Bowl, and 692 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 14: then for me to come to Carol and then for 693 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 14: him to end up here and I'm covering him breaking 694 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 14: news about his hiring process after mac Brown was fired 695 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 14: around Thanksgiving, which is really when this all started for me. 696 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 14: It's been a trip, so I think, you know, I've 697 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 14: tried to just kind of I tell people, I'm trying 698 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 14: to bring the same energy and the same passion and 699 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 14: same discipline reporting that I did to the hiring process 700 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 14: that I did to the excitement into the fund and 701 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 14: what I'm doing right now to I guess if you 702 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 14: want to call it downfall, but there's no agenda here. 703 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 14: I'm just trying to tell people what I know. I've 704 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 14: been covering this team for four plus years. I know 705 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 14: a lot of people, and people are very very upset. 706 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 14: And when you look at the results on the field, 707 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 14: when you're going to be the highest paid employee in 708 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 14: the state and you're going to be one of the 709 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 14: worst teams in all of college football, that's not me 710 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 14: saying that, Dan. That is statistical fact, completely uncompetitive in 711 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 14: Power four games, one hundred and twenty to thirty three 712 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 14: is the scoring differential. People deserve to know what's going 713 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 14: on and why? And I think are reporting a shed 714 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 14: a light on that. 715 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: If I gave athletic department a do over and you 716 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: keep Mac Brown, what would they do? 717 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 14: I think, Mack bro I think really it's diametric, right, 718 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 14: the difference between Mac Brown and Bill Belichick. And in 719 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 14: some ways that's what they were seeking, because you know, 720 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 14: Mac Brown came here second stint in Chapel Hill, so 721 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 14: respected national champion University of Texas has had some of 722 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 14: the best seasons Carolina football has ever seen, means a 723 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 14: lot to this state, means a lot of this community. 724 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 14: And he treated people as such, and he welcomed the 725 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 14: media as such. But I think if you were going 726 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 14: to criticize him, you look at the downfall of mac 727 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 14: Brown was James Madison last year where they gave up 728 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 14: seventy points inexplicable. Then they go on the road loose 729 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 14: to Boston College and if I'm allowed to say, a 730 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 14: kind of uninspired performance at a minimum, and that was 731 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 14: the nail in the coffin for mac Brown in his 732 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 14: time here. And you know, it was honestly probably time 733 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 14: to move on. They had tapped out, So what they 734 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 14: wanted to do was take another step. Everybody knows, like 735 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 14: in the world of conference realignment, you have to be 736 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 14: all in on football. You can't be just a basketball school. 737 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 14: So everything for Carolina was well intentioned in bringing Bill 738 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 14: Belichick in. It's just has gone spectacularly wrong in ways 739 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 14: that I don't know that anyone really could have foreseen. 740 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: Does Belichick have any media availability coming up aside from 741 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: game days. 742 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, It's been both convenient for him and maybe convenient 743 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 14: for us reporting on this as well. That this came 744 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 14: as a bye week and it was a bye week 745 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 14: before Clemson as well. And I think that's allowed me 746 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 14: to do a lot of work because, like I've been 747 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 14: working on this since the spring Daan like that's when 748 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 14: the tip came in, and I've been just running this 749 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 14: down until I thought I had it. He has of 750 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 14: media availability on Monday, I'm going to go that's going 751 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 14: to be an interesting experience for me. I'm certainly going 752 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 14: to try to ask a question. You know, I've been 753 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 14: coreating with U and C trying to work with them 754 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 14: throughout this. When I have information, I'm not breaking it 755 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 14: until I run it by them for a chance to respond, 756 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 14: and we're working on that right now. 757 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 5: We have a story that we were. 758 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 14: Ready to break yesterday. And just to give you an 759 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 14: example of how strange this is, Dan, I am at 760 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 14: the point now where I can't even assume the people 761 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 14: I am texting and calling are the people that they 762 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 14: say to be. That's all I can say. But at 763 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 14: this point now, like I am questioning, like that's not 764 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 14: the level we are at. Because inside the building in Carolina, 765 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 14: they know there's a leak. They are trying to find it. 766 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 14: And I am kind of ears and eyes wide open 767 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 14: to really everything and anything at this point. But I 768 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 14: can tell you that our reporting directly led to the 769 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 14: suspension of assistant football coach Armand Hawkins, and our continued 770 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 14: prying into that story led to the statement and the 771 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 14: official confirmation from U and C on his suspension yesterday afternoon. 772 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 14: And there's a key piece in their statement that they 773 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 14: say he will remain on leave as the Department of 774 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 14: Thoughttholetics further investigates other potential actions detrimental to the team university. 775 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 14: Those are what we are looking into. So that's all 776 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 14: I can share at this moment. But I think you 777 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 14: have something. There's more stories to come. 778 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: Okay, good luck with that and trust your gut, trust 779 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: your instincts, but man, you know, nail it down. Yeah, 780 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: nail it down because the this is serious stuff. But 781 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: that's why we do this. When you get these opportunities, 782 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: go for it. 783 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 14: Yes, sir, I appreciate that, and uh, this means a 784 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 14: lot being on here with you. 785 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 5: You're one of. 786 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 14: The reasons I do this. 787 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 5: I really appreciate the opportunity. 788 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Pat, good luck. That's Pat Welter w r 789 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: A l TV sports anchor Raleigh, North Carolina.