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Speaker 1: Welcome to Know your Foe on Colts dot Com and

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Speaker 1: end depth book at the upcoming matchup. Here's Casey Valier.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in I Know your Foe Oncolts dot Com. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Casey Valie. The Colts host the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers a Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday, and to help

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Speaker 1: champion Buccaneers, it's time to welcome in Rick Stroud of

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Times. Rick, thank you so much. It

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Speaker 1: took me some time to talk with us on such

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Speaker 1: a busy short week. Yes, thanks for having me. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be an interesting game. Looking forward to it?

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Speaker 1: Well absolutely, I mean one of the things I kind

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Speaker 1: of want to talk about. It's a short week. The

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Speaker 1: Bucks played on Monday night and then you've got Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it all plays a factor and

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Speaker 1: just trying to get into a routine. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: when you're a Super Bowl champion or one of the

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Speaker 1: marquee teams, you know you're you're used to playing at

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Speaker 1: all times, right, I mean, these guys have had Thursday

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Speaker 1: night Monday night, Sunday night, they got everything but a

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day game. So look, it's a it's a veteran team,

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Speaker 1: I think at this time of the year, so much

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Speaker 1: of practice is more mental than physical. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: Bruce arians does as good a job of being coach

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Speaker 1: veteran ball club, the oldest in the league, and being

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Speaker 1: able to get their legs back and being ready on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's it's a it's a challenge, the

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Speaker 1: bigger challenges. They just haven't played well on the road.

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Speaker 1: You know, business is a team that is undefeated at home,

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Speaker 1: averaging forty points a game, and on the road they've

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the challenge. This week, we're

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Speaker 1: joined by Rick Stroud, who covers the Buccaneers for Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Times. I want to start with number twelve. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody's seen the magic through his historic NFL career. I

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so all that's changed, covering the team of

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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about It's going to sound

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's forty four, yet he's leading the league

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Speaker 1: many many athletes, many quarterbacks at age forty five, make

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Speaker 1: the sacrifices he's made to keep his body and more importantly,

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Speaker 1: and he just has a routine. But more than that,

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Speaker 1: How lethal is this group for Tom Brady? Well, when

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. We saw how dominant

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